Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Dear Members, I am out of curiosity on the continued benefic_malefic discussions.....taking the google search answers data provided by Mr. Krishna, on its face value..... Heath Ledger, April 4, 1979 at Perth Australia, died on 22-Jan-2008. Casted the chart with morning 06:00 hrs as the time of birth, considering only the Moon Chart as the basis for the birth time is not correctly known. Even should it be evening birth, it is still Saturn Mahadasha prevailing. Moon Chart Moon in Gemini, 2H-Jupiter in Cancer, 3H-Saturn+Rahu in Leo, 9H-Venus & Ketu in Aquarius, 10H-Mars, Mercury, Sun in Pisces. Saturn Mahadasha started on 03-Mar-2004. assuming if it is evening birth 18:00 hrs, then also it is Saturn dasha starting at Dec. 1995...etc. In the Moon Chart, Jupiter is the 7HL exalted in 2H. Saturn is 8HL. Mars 6HL aspecting Lagna, conjunct with LL Mercury in 10H. Moon is 2HL in Lagna. See the affliction to 5HL Venus, 8HL Saturn in Rahu/Ketu axis..........see the placement of 8HL saturn in Leo sign in 3H, again in 8H from 8H.... Even by Nadi methods, Saturn & Rahu next to Jupiter, shows the affliction to the longevity of the native...... See the exalted 7H in 2H, killed him in single shot....had it been debilitated...he would have been rushed to hospital....then slowly died..... With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:>> Dear Sreeram ji,> > That was a very balanced view on the nature of planets and their effects. You have put it down very well.> > About your request on the birth data for heath ledger, following are the details:> > April 4, 1979 at Perth Australia.> > Unfortunately, none of the sites mention his birth time.> > Regards,> Krishna> > sreeram srinivas sreeram64 wrote:> Dear members,> Just a rider to the ongoing discussions. Mr. Krishna in his posting mentioned deaths in Jupiter-Venus & vice-versa periods. Benefics can also give death in their way to the natives when the "ayu" reaches its determined limit { I have not been successful in determing the longevity except for broad categorization}.> On the contrary, if the great Gurus i.e Deva Guru & Asura Guru both technically Brahmins, if they are determined to "kill the native", they become more malefic than the other declared malefics,....then nothing can help the native !!!> Asura Guru Venus has all those "malefic demons" under his command i.e. all those "Surs" - Tarakasur, Bhasmasur,....etc.... Deva Guru Bhrihaspati has his "tapo" bhal {tapo = medicatation, bhal = power, i.e. powered derived through meditation} & all those Demi-Gods i.e. Lord -Indra, Varun, Agni...etc....under his command.> Bramhin is the last resort of saving and he too is bent upon, then whom to approach !!> In this context, let me recall the statement of Sreenadh in his posting on 2HL in Lagna .... where a planet {irrespective of benefic or malefic} behaving giving good & bad at the same time.....so sometimes definitions like malefic & benefic....loose their relevance ....{ another reason for so many drop outs at BVB after 1 or 2 yr course...people find this astrology contracdicting & confusing .. particularly who are used to current management concepts like - Return on Investment, Break Even,...etc.. in terms of knowledge !!! }> Hence, to think Jupiter is always benefic....or Saturn or Rahu is most malefic...is all irrelevant. I remeber seeing few postings, where member said their Rahu period was the best.> The dasha of 3HL or 6HL or 8HL has different meanings depending upon the age. For example...we are fond or afraid of enemies. So let me take 6HL. at below 20 age can mean difficulties in life, for those growing old years 25-40 can mean competetive spirit, 45-60 can mean health issues.> Take the case of recently died Australian Hollywood actor & a Oscar nominee Heath Ledger found dead at the age of 28 yrs { 22-Jan-2008 news}. Drugs was one factor. {Would request Mr. Krishna ji to share the birth data should he find in this Google searches or answers....!! or in the astro data banks, that he uses .....for he seems to be good at.....}> With regards,> Sreeram_Srinivas> > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Dear Members, Note the double transit in his 3H i.e. Leo sign,.....Natal Saturn + Transit Saturn. Should have got activated in amsa also somewhere...due to lack of correct time of birth, need to restrict to the Moon chart only. regards Sreeram_Srinivas , "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote:>> > Dear Members,> > I am out of curiosity on the continued benefic_malefic> discussions.....taking the google search answers data provided by Mr.> Krishna, on its face value.....> > Heath Ledger, April 4, 1979 at Perth Australia, died on 22-Jan-2008.> > Casted the chart with morning 06:00 hrs as the time of birth, > considering only the Moon Chart as the basis for the birth time is not> correctly known. Even should it be evening birth, it is still Saturn> Mahadasha prevailing.> > Moon Chart> > Moon in Gemini, 2H-Jupiter in Cancer, 3H-Saturn+Rahu in Leo, 9H-Venus> & Ketu in Aquarius, 10H-Mars, Mercury, Sun in Pisces.> > Saturn Mahadasha started on 03-Mar-2004. assuming if it is evening> birth 18:00 hrs, then also it is Saturn dasha starting at Dec.> 1995...etc.> > In the Moon Chart, Jupiter is the 7HL exalted in 2H. Saturn is 8HL. > Mars 6HL aspecting Lagna, conjunct with LL Mercury in 10H. Moon is 2HL> in Lagna. See the affliction to 5HL Venus, 8HL Saturn in Rahu/Ketu> axis..........see the placement of 8HL saturn in Leo sign in 3H, again> in 8H from 8H....> > Even by Nadi methods, Saturn & Rahu next to Jupiter, shows the> affliction to the longevity of the native......> > See the exalted 7H in 2H, killed him in single shot....had it been> debilitated...he would have been rushed to hospital....then slowly> died.....> > With regards,> > Sreeram_Srinivas> > > , Krishnamurthy> Seetharama krishna_1998@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sreeram ji,> >> > That was a very balanced view on the nature of planets and their> effects. You have put it down very well.> >> > About your request on the birth data for heath ledger, following are> the details:> >> > April 4, 1979 at Perth Australia.> >> > Unfortunately, none of the sites mention his birth time.> >> > Regards,> > Krishna> >> > sreeram srinivas sreeram64@ wrote:> > Dear members,> > Just a rider to the ongoing discussions. Mr. Krishna in his posting> mentioned deaths in Jupiter-Venus & vice-versa periods. Benefics can> also give death in their way to the natives when the "ayu" reaches its> determined limit { I have not been successful in determing the longevity> except for broad categorization}.> > On the contrary, if the great Gurus i.e Deva Guru & Asura Guru both> technically Brahmins, if they are determined to "kill the native", they> become more malefic than the other declared malefics,....then nothing> can help the native !!!> > Asura Guru Venus has all those "malefic demons" under his command i.e.> all those "Surs" - Tarakasur, Bhasmasur,....etc.... Deva Guru> Bhrihaspati has his "tapo" bhal {tapo = medicatation, bhal = power, i.e.> powered derived through meditation} & all those Demi-Gods i.e. Lord> -Indra, Varun, Agni...etc....under his command.> > Bramhin is the last resort of saving and he too is bent upon, then> whom to approach !!> > In this context, let me recall the statement of Sreenadh in his> posting on 2HL in Lagna .... where a planet {irrespective of benefic or> malefic} behaving giving good & bad at the same time.....so sometimes> definitions like malefic & benefic....loose their relevance ....{> another reason for so many drop outs at BVB after 1 or 2 yr> course...people find this astrology contracdicting & confusing ..> particularly who are used to current management concepts like - Return> on Investment, Break Even,...etc.. in terms of knowledge !!! }> > Hence, to think Jupiter is always benefic....or Saturn or Rahu is most> malefic...is all irrelevant. I remeber seeing few postings, where member> said their Rahu period was the best.> > The dasha of 3HL or 6HL or 8HL has different meanings depending upon> the age. For example...we are fond or afraid of enemies. So let me take> 6HL. at below 20 age can mean difficulties in life, for those growing> old years 25-40 can mean competetive spirit, 45-60 can mean health> issues.> > Take the case of recently died Australian Hollywood actor & a Oscar> nominee Heath Ledger found dead at the age of 28 yrs { 22-Jan-2008> news}. Drugs was one factor. {Would request Mr. Krishna ji to share the> birth data should he find in this Google searches or answers....!! or in> the astro data banks, that he uses .....for he seems to be good at.....}> > With regards,> > Sreeram_Srinivas> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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