Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Dear Members, I have a fundamental doubt. Please pardon my ignorance. Given an horoscope chart, How to find out that it belongs to living person or dead one and the person is a male or female Kindly enlighten me. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Dear Sivaraman, Honestly, I do not know anything about it, but remember the co-founder of BVB, New Delhi Late Sri Z. Ansari once when given two hororscopes for mathing, at mere look at them, {in the entire class looking at the event} sternly warned the person, NOT to give anymore dead hororscopes to anyone in future....!! Yes there are some methods, may be only advanced astros may be to comment on that. Answering such questions even if knowing, would be beyond the scope of internet for those are delicate answers which NO one would reveal in a public forum like this....it is my personal opinion.... Same question - how to say it is a male or female horoscope.....{without going to the intricate tatwa analysis} With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas , Sivaraman S <swathiram37 wrote: Dear Members, I have a fundamental doubt. Please pardon my ignorance. Given an horoscope chart, How to find out that it belongs to living person or dead one and the person is a male or female Kindly enlighten me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Dear Sivaraman ji, Learn to understand the horoscope of the living, you will naturally learn to identify the horoscope of the dead. Love and regards, Sreenadh , Sivaraman S <swathiram37 wrote:>> Dear Members, > I have a fundamental doubt. Please pardon my ignorance. Given an horoscope chart, How to find out that it belongs to living person or dead one and the person is a male or female Kindly enlighten me.> > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Dear Sreenadh ji, quote: " Learn to understand the horoscope of the living, you will naturally learn to identify the horoscope of the dead. " - unquote. That's beautiful..thanks for such lovely thoughts. blessings Renu > > Dear Sivaraman ji, > Learn to understand the horoscope of the living, you will > naturally learn to identify the horoscope of the dead. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , Sivaraman S > <swathiram37@> wrote: > > > > Dear Members, > > I have a fundamental doubt. Please pardon my ignorance. Given an > horoscope chart, How to find out that it belongs to living person or > dead one and the person is a male or female Kindly enlighten me. > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 sir, we can analyse a horoscope of a person wheather the person is alive or dead by going through the lagna,lagnalord,house occupied by LL,H#2,H#8,THE LORD OF THESE HOUSES,THEIR PLACEMENT IN THE HOROSCOPE,IF POSITED IN WEAK PLACEMENT WITH BAD OR EVIL ASPECT TO THE 2nd,8th house.same case has to be checked with navamsa chart & astakavarga table of lagna,moon ,2nd lord & 8th lord.these analysations may give the possiblities of finding deadoralive. regards, prabhakaran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Dear sreeram sreenivas. Thank you for you reply. I had an experiance few years back. One of my cousins was missing for quite some time. All our efforts to trace him failed. At that time my uncle contacted one VALLUVAN ( nomad type astoleger). By merely looking at the chart he said that horosecope belonged to a dead person. After few days we got his death news. I am still trying to find out as to what prompted him to predict like that which became a truth. Any way Sri.Sreenath has given advice to the effect that I have to perfect my knowledge by studying live horoscopes and I may be able to know the secret. I will follow his advicesreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote: Dear Sivaraman,Honestly, I do not know anything about it, but remember the co-founderof BVB, New Delhi Late Sri Z. Ansari once when given two hororscopes formathing, at mere look at them, {in the entire class looking at theevent} sternly warned the person, NOT to give anymore dead hororscopesto anyone in future....!! Yes there are some methods, may be onlyadvanced astros may be to comment on that.Answering such questions even if knowing, would be beyond the scope ofinternet for those are delicate answers which NO one would reveal in apublic forum like this....it is my personal opinion....Same question - how to say it is a male or female horoscope.....{withoutgoing to the intricate tatwa analysis}With regards,Sreeram_Srinivas , Sivaraman S<swathiram37 wrote:Dear Members,I have a fundamental doubt. Please pardon my ignorance. Given anhoroscope chart, How to find out that it belongs to living person ordead one and the person is a male or female Kindly enlighten me. Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 I think the male or female can be found this way. Find the Shastiamsha of the lagna. If it is in the first half of male rashi or second half of female rashi then the native is male otherwise it is female.Udupa On Jan 14, 2008 7:21 PM, Sivaraman S <swathiram37 wrote: Dear Members, I have a fundamental doubt. Please pardon my ignorance. Given an horoscope chart, How to find out that it belongs to living person or dead one and the person is a male or female Kindly enlighten me. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Dear Sivaramanji, Is it possible to trace that birth data of your cousin...may be we can make a wild attempt to guess. ...?? { I do realize post mortem analysis is always easy....} horoscope + consulting { nomad} possible date + actual realization = is the data required. with regards, Sreeram_Srinivas , Sivaraman S <swathiram37 wrote: > > Dear sreeram sreenivas. > > Thank you for you reply. I had an experiance few years back. One of my cousins was missing for quite some time. All our efforts to trace him failed. At that time my uncle contacted one VALLUVAN ( nomad type astoleger). By merely looking at the chart he said that horosecope belonged to a dead person. After few days we got his death news. I am still trying to find out as to what prompted him to predict like that which became a truth. > Any way Sri.Sreenath has given advice to the effect that I have to perfect my knowledge by studying live horoscopes and I may be able to know the secret. I will follow his advice > > sreeram srinivas sreeram64 wrote: > > Dear Sivaraman, > > Honestly, I do not know anything about it, but remember the co-founder > of BVB, New Delhi Late Sri Z. Ansari once when given two hororscopes for > mathing, at mere look at them, {in the entire class looking at the > event} sternly warned the person, NOT to give anymore dead hororscopes > to anyone in future....!! Yes there are some methods, may be only > advanced astros may be to comment on that. > > Answering such questions even if knowing, would be beyond the scope of > internet for those are delicate answers which NO one would reveal in a > public forum like this....it is my personal opinion.... > > Same question - how to say it is a male or female horoscope.....{without > going to the intricate tatwa analysis} > > With regards, > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > , Sivaraman S > swathiram37@ wrote: > > Dear Members, > I have a fundamental doubt. Please pardon my ignorance. Given an > horoscope chart, How to find out that it belongs to living person or > dead one and the person is a male or female Kindly enlighten me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Dear Sir, To use this method, the birth time has to be very accurate. Otherwise, it is very easy to go wrong. Or could get it right if one is lucky. In any case, the result will not be a predictbale one. Even, the births properly recorded in a hospital could have birth times varying at least by 5 mins. It could be more in many cases. In such situation how does D60 help? Regards, KrishnaGuru <ahudupa wrote: I think the male or female can be found this way. Find the Shastiamsha of the lagna. If it is in the first half of male rashi or second half of female rashi then the native is male otherwise it is female.Udupa On Jan 14, 2008 7:21 PM, Sivaraman S <swathiram37 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Members, I have a fundamental doubt. Please pardon my ignorance. Given an horoscope chart, How to find out that it belongs to living person or dead one and the person is a male or female Kindly enlighten me. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 I agree with Krishnamurthyji - Let us look at a way of sex determination using the natal chart itselfConsider the genitals - it is denoted by the 8H - Things that can indicate a male:We have to look for what is maximumHouse-Sign Combination:8H in female rasi (even house): i.e. 8H is Taurus, Cancer, Virgo, Scorpio, Capricorn, Pisces.See the 8H Lord: is he male or female? (Planet as focal point)Is 8H lord in male/female rasi? Similarly other combinations - let us check!Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: Dear Sir, To use this method, the birth time has to be very accurate. Otherwise, it is very easy to go wrong. Or could get it right if one is lucky. In any case, the result will not be a predictbale one. Even, the births properly recorded in a hospital could have birth times varying at least by 5 mins. It could be more in many cases. In such situation how does D60 help? Regards, KrishnaGuru <ahudupa > wrote: I think the male or female can be found this way. Find the Shastiamsha of the lagna. If it is in the first half of male rashi or second half of female rashi then the native is male otherwise it is female.Udupa On Jan 14, 2008 7:21 PM, Sivaraman S <swathiram37 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Members, I have a fundamental doubt. Please pardon my ignorance. Given an horoscope chart, How to find out that it belongs to living person or dead one and the person is a male or female Kindly enlighten me. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Dear Kiran ji, Don't jump into conclusions and pit falls - there is more than 36 parameters needs to be considered to ensure whether a chart is of a male or female - and then use statistical weightage. In every man a female is present and in every female a man is present - the chart certainly reflects the same as well - and so DOES NOT allow any short cuts. Hope this helps.Love and regards,Sreenadh , Kiran R <kiran.rama wrote:>> I agree with Krishnamurthyji - Let us look at a way of sex determination using the natal chart itself> > Consider the genitals - it is denoted by the 8H - Things that can indicate a male:> We have to look for what is maximum> House-Sign Combination:> 8H in female rasi (even house): i.e. 8H is Taurus, Cancer, Virgo, Scorpio, Capricorn, Pisces.> > See the 8H Lord: is he male or female? (Planet as focal point)> > Is 8H lord in male/female rasi? > > Similarly other combinations - let us check!> > > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama krishna_1998 wrote: > Dear Sir,> > To use this method, the birth time has to be very accurate. Otherwise, it is very easy to go wrong. Or could get it right if one is lucky. In any case, the result will not be a predictbale one. Even, the births properly recorded in a hospital could have birth times varying at least by 5 mins. It could be more in many cases. In such situation how does D60 help?> > Regards,> Krishna> > Guru ahudupa wrote:> I think the male or female can be found this way.> Find the Shastiamsha of the lagna. If it is in the first half of male rashi or second half of female rashi then the native is male otherwise it is female.> Udupa> > On Jan 14, 2008 7:21 PM, Sivaraman S swathiram37 wrote:> > Dear Members, > I have a fundamental doubt. Please pardon my ignorance. Given an horoscope chart, How to find out that it belongs to living person or dead one and the person is a male or female Kindly enlighten me.> > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search.> > > > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Dear Sreeram Srinivas, My cousin DOB 21/03/1963 TOB 06.15AM. Place of birth Madras.He was missing since 10/08/1981.Consultation period some time in 10/1983. We received his death news some time in 4/84 from calcutta police that his death was noticed on14/2/83 .It is a sad story.sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote: Dear Sivaramanji,Is it possible to trace that birth data of your cousin...may be we canmake a wild attempt to guess. ...?? { I do realize post mortemanalysis is always easy....}horoscope + consulting { nomad} possible date + actual realization = isthe data required.with regards,Sreeram_Srinivas , Sivaraman S<swathiram37 wrote:>> Dear sreeram sreenivas.>> Thank you for you reply. I had an experiance few years back. One of mycousins was missing for quite some time. All our efforts to trace himfailed. At that time my uncle contacted one VALLUVAN ( nomad typeastoleger). By merely looking at the chart he said that horosecopebelonged to a dead person. After few days we got his death news. I amstill trying to find out as to what prompted him to predict like thatwhich became a truth.> Any way Sri.Sreenath has given advice to the effect that I have toperfect my knowledge by studying live horoscopes and I may be able toknow the secret. I will follow his advice>> sreeram srinivas sreeram64 wrote:>> Dear Sivaraman,>> Honestly, I do not know anything about it, but remember the co-founder> of BVB, New Delhi Late Sri Z. Ansari once when given two hororscopesfor> mathing, at mere look at them, {in the entire class looking at the> event} sternly warned the person, NOT to give anymore dead hororscopes> to anyone in future....!! Yes there are some methods, may be only> advanced astros may be to comment on that.>> Answering such questions even if knowing, would be beyond the scope of> internet for those are delicate answers which NO one would reveal in a> public forum like this....it is my personal opinion....>> Same question - how to say it is a male or femalehoroscope.....{without> going to the intricate tatwa analysis}>> With regards,>> Sreeram_Srinivas>> , Sivaraman S> swathiram37@ wrote:>> Dear Members,> I have a fundamental doubt. Please pardon my ignorance. Given an> horoscope chart, How to find out that it belongs to living person or> dead one and the person is a male or female Kindly enlighten me. Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Om Namah Shivaye namaste Kiranji,, Checking for sex of native.. Lagna 21 deg leo.. 8H is pisces ...female 8HL is jupiter ...male Jupiter placed in rasi of pisces... female So using your criteria.. the native shud be female.. but native is male.. another example.. Lagna 9 degrees Aquarius 8H is virgo ..female 8HL is mercury .. male Mercury placed in taurus .. female using ur criteria.. native shud be female.. and yes, native is female. I personaly feel perhaps we shud also consider if there is a planet placed in the 8H.. if so it may make the difference.. Logically lagna shud also have some impact.. first case, jupiter in 8H, second case, no planet in 8H.. I will be curious to see other findings linking these factors .. regards Sheevani , Kiran R <kiran.rama wrote: > > I agree with Krishnamurthyji - Let us look at a way of sex determination using the natal chart itself > > Consider the genitals - it is denoted by the 8H - Things that can indicate a male: > We have to look for what is maximum > House-Sign Combination: > 8H in female rasi (even house): i.e. 8H is Taurus, Cancer, Virgo, Scorpio, Capricorn, Pisces. > > See the 8H Lord: is he male or female? (Planet as focal point) > > Is 8H lord in male/female rasi? > > Similarly other combinations - let us check! > > > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > Dear Sir, > > To use this method, the birth time has to be very accurate. Otherwise, it is very easy to go wrong. Or could get it right if one is lucky. In any case, the result will not be a predictbale one. Even, the births properly recorded in a hospital could have birth times varying at least by 5 mins. It could be more in many cases. In such situation how does D60 help? > > Regards, > Krishna > > Guru <ahudupa wrote: > I think the male or female can be found this way. > Find the Shastiamsha of the lagna. If it is in the first half of male rashi or second half of female rashi then the native is male otherwise it is female. > Udupa > > On Jan 14, 2008 7:21 PM, Sivaraman S <swathiram37 wrote: > > Dear Members, > I have a fundamental doubt. Please pardon my ignorance. Given an horoscope chart, How to find out that it belongs to living person or dead one and the person is a male or female Kindly enlighten me. > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > > > > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Click here. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Dear friend, The best way is to cast a prasna and check . If prasna indicates grave danger or some such thing to the jathaka about whom a question is put, we can presume that the person is most likely dead. You must, however compare the dasas and Gochara of the birth chart before giving your views. Tatvam-Asi , Sivaraman S <swathiram37 wrote: > > Dear Members, > I have a fundamental doubt. Please pardon my ignorance. Given an horoscope chart, How to find out that it belongs to living person or dead one and the person is a male or female Kindly enlighten me. > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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