Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Om Namah Shivaye.. Namaste, If Mars as 12L is in 8H conjuct Jupiter,both in shani nakshatra, and is aspected by Shani (in Jupiter nakshatra) and mars is also aspecting Shani.. In this combination, mars is in kendra to shani and shani is also in kendra to Mars (4:10 position).. Does this constitute an Agni maruta yoga? When does this yoga get triggered and what are its effects? Many thanks Sheevani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Very cleverly asked. The lagna is Sagittarius with Mars and Jupiter being in Pushya in Cancer. The Saturn must be in Libra in 11th. I dont know to who this chart belongs but self doubt seems to be the only fault this person will have, with Lagna lord being in Saturn's nakshatra. On the other hand, Pushya is a nice star for a planet to be posited in with Jupiter in it in exaltation, too. Mars no doubt can spoil things a bit but it is under the influence of the Saturn, which would reduce the effects of the mars. Hence, there may be problem to get children. The exchange of Jupiter and Saturn can make the native a fair minded and highly inflexible/disciplined person. The aspect of Saturn, 3rd Lord on 8th lord will spoil the VRY. In general, a good planetary combination. regards, Kishore patnaik On Jan 14, 2008 5:32 AM, sheevani147 <sheevani147 wrote: Om Namah Shivaye.. Namaste, If Mars as 12L is in 8H conjuct Jupiter,both in shani nakshatra, and is aspected by Shani (in Jupiter nakshatra) and mars is also aspecting Shani.. In this combination, mars is in kendra to shani and shani is also in kendra to Mars (4:10 position).. Does this constitute an Agni maruta yoga? When does this yoga get triggered and what are its effects? Many thanks Sheevani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Good reading by Kishoreji. But could not understand " exchange of Jup and Sani" as Jup is in Cancer and Saturn is in Libra. Maybe I missed something. Also I question to Sivaniji _ Does the person - whose chart/details u have given- have any problems related to liver, digestion etc ? which give rise to conditions like diabetes. Thanks & regards/ --- On Mon, 14/1/08, kishore patnaik <kishorepatnaik09 wrote: kishore patnaik <kishorepatnaik09 Re: shani mars combinations.. Date: Monday, 14 January, 2008, 10:42 AM Very cleverly asked. The lagna is Sagittarius with Mars and Jupiter being in Pushya in Cancer. The Saturn must be in Libra in 11th. I dont know to who this chart belongs but self doubt seems to be the only fault this person will have, with Lagna lord being in Saturn's nakshatra. On the other hand, Pushya is a nice star for a planet to be posited in with Jupiter in it in exaltation, too. Mars no doubt can spoil things a bit but it is under the influence of the Saturn, which would reduce the effects of the mars. Hence, there may be problem to get children. The exchange of Jupiter and Saturn can make the native a fair minded and highly inflexible/discipli ned person. The aspect of Saturn, 3rd Lord on 8th lord will spoil the VRY. In general, a good planetary combination. regards, Kishore patnaik On Jan 14, 2008 5:32 AM, sheevani147 <sheevani147@ .co. uk> wrote: Om Namah Shivaye..Namaste,If Mars as 12L is in 8H conjuct Jupiter,both in shani nakshatra, and is aspected by Shani (in Jupiter nakshatra) and mars is also aspecting Shani.. In this combination, mars is in kendra to shani and shani is also in kendra to Mars (4:10 position).. Does this constitute an Agni maruta yoga? When does this yoga get triggered and what are its effects?Many thanksSheevani Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 The exchange referred is in the case of lunar aster isms. Kishore patnaik e: Good reading by Kishoreji. But could not understand " exchange of Jup and Sani " as Jup is in Cancer and Saturn is in Libra. Maybe I missed something. --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Dear Shivani ji, Agni Maruta yoga is present - and it affects both 11th from Lagna and 8th from Lagna. Mars in 8th is not good, so as Saturn aspected by Mars in 11th - both will give there respective bad results; if the relevant dasa comes. Also note that 5th lord going to 8th in debilitation has its own bad results as well. Exalted Jupiter is good, and so as exalted Saturn - they will give their good results as well, in the relevant dasa. But I wonder - what was the purpose of asking the question in such a round about way?! Regards, Sreenadh , "kishore patnaik" <kishorepatnaik09 wrote:>> Very cleverly asked.> > The lagna is Sagittarius with Mars and Jupiter being in Pushya in Cancer.> The Saturn must be in Libra in 11th.> > I dont know to who this chart belongs but self doubt seems to be the only> fault this person will have, with Lagna lord being in Saturn's nakshatra.> > On the other hand, Pushya is a nice star for a planet to be posited in with> Jupiter in it in exaltation, too. Mars no doubt can spoil things a bit but> it is under the influence of the Saturn, which would reduce the effects of> the mars. Hence, there may be problem to get children.> > The exchange of Jupiter and Saturn can make the native a fair minded and> highly inflexible/disciplined person.> > The aspect of Saturn, 3rd Lord on 8th lord will spoil the VRY.> > In general, a good planetary combination.> > regards,> > Kishore patnaik> > > On Jan 14, 2008 5:32 AM, sheevani147 sheevani147 wrote:> > > Om Namah Shivaye..> >> > Namaste,> >> > If Mars as 12L is in 8H conjuct Jupiter,both in shani nakshatra, and is> > aspected by Shani (in Jupiter nakshatra) and mars is also aspecting> > Shani.. In this combination, mars is in kendra to shani and shani is> > also in kendra to Mars (4:10 position).. Does this constitute an Agni> > maruta yoga? When does this yoga get triggered and what are its> > effects?> >> > Many thanks> > Sheevani> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Om namah Shivaye, Namaste Sreenadhji, Thank you for confirming the Agni Maruta yoga.. Actually I was looking at the parivartan yoga in the said chart between the 8L(moon) and the 5L,12L Mars, when I wondered about the shani/mars combination, with both aspecting each other by the 4:10 position aspect. Looking closer, Lagnesh Jupiter and mars was in shani's star and shani was in Jupiter's star.. I just wrote as per my chain of thoughts.. Regards Sheevani , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > > Dear Shivani ji, > Agni Maruta yoga is present - and it affects both 11th from Lagna > and 8th from Lagna. Mars in 8th is not good, so as Saturn aspected by > Mars in 11th - both will give there respective bad results; if the > relevant dasa comes. Also note that 5th lord going to 8th in > debilitation has its own bad results as well. Exalted Jupiter is good, > and so as exalted Saturn - they will give their good results as well, > in the relevant dasa. > But I wonder - what was the purpose of asking the question in such a > round about way?! > Regards, > Sreenadh > , " kishore patnaik " > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote: > > > > Very cleverly asked. > > > > The lagna is Sagittarius with Mars and Jupiter being in Pushya in > Cancer. > > The Saturn must be in Libra in 11th. > > > > I dont know to who this chart belongs but self doubt seems to be the > only > > fault this person will have, with Lagna lord being in Saturn's > nakshatra. > > > > On the other hand, Pushya is a nice star for a planet to be posited in > with > > Jupiter in it in exaltation, too. Mars no doubt can spoil things a > bit but > > it is under the influence of the Saturn, which would reduce the > effects of > > the mars. Hence, there may be problem to get children. > > > > The exchange of Jupiter and Saturn can make the native a fair minded > and > > highly inflexible/disciplined person. > > > > The aspect of Saturn, 3rd Lord on 8th lord will spoil the VRY. > > > > In general, a good planetary combination. > > > > regards, > > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > > > On Jan 14, 2008 5:32 AM, sheevani147 sheevani147@ wrote: > > > > > Om Namah Shivaye.. > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > If Mars as 12L is in 8H conjuct Jupiter,both in shani nakshatra, and > is > > > aspected by Shani (in Jupiter nakshatra) and mars is also aspecting > > > Shani.. In this combination, mars is in kendra to shani and shani is > > > also in kendra to Mars (4:10 position).. Does this constitute an > Agni > > > maruta yoga? When does this yoga get triggered and what are its > > > effects? > > > > > > Many thanks > > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Om Namah Shivaye Namaste Chiranjiv ji, Lagnesh Jupiter in 8H of chronic diseases will definately give liver/digestion troubles..Mars being conjuct in same nakshatra of Shani will give surgery.. The native had gall bladder problems (bile from liver stored in gall bladder) and native had surgery to remove gall bladder... As for diabetes, there is a family medical history, so probability of the native to get diabetes is high.. Hope that satisfies your curiosity.. One question... Same Jupiter is also lord of 4H, hence chest illness, especially breathing (respiratory) illness may also be a possiblity???? native is a non-smoker and is in good health generally.. why??? Regards Sheevani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Sheevani147 Madam Namaste, Sagittarian Lagna, Jupiter in 8H. 8H is not related to chronic diseases, but makes the native emotional i.e. it is in the Cancer Sign ??? Yes Cancer, which means exalted in 8H. Result emotional issues prevail.. Jupiter happens to be 4HL also. Emotions are often equated with Heart. Natural Karaka for Chest, in Kalpurush kundali is again Moon or Cancer. Ignoring Moon position for a while for I do not have that information in this mail, limiting to Cancer sign. Dr. Charak who himself is a surgeon of repute in India and also a expert astro himself...{seeing or knowing him is believing....he is astro_par excellence .....I am yet to grabble at plausible reasons for some his predictions......}...in his various articles on medical astrology where his proficiency is more.....has mentions this about Cancer Sign. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas , " sheevani147 " <sheevani147 wrote: Om Namah Shivaye Namaste Chiranjiv ji, Lagnesh Jupiter in 8H of chronic diseases will definately give liver/digestion troubles..Mars being conjuct in same nakshatra of Shani will give surgery.. The native had gall bladder problems (bile from liver stored in gall bladder) and native had surgery to remove gall bladder... As for diabetes, there is a family medical history, so probability of the native to get diabetes is high.. Hope that satisfies your curiosity.. One question... Same Jupiter is also lord of 4H, hence chest illness, especially breathing (respiratory) illness may also be a possiblity???? native is a non-smoker and is in good health generally.. why??? Regards Sheevani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Om Namah Shivaye, Namaste Sreeram ji, I stand corrected.. thanks for the guidance.. I have always held that the 6H among other things signified acute illness episodes and the chronic diseases were signified by the 8H,, as well as circumstances of death.. eg.. place and periods of unconciousness prior death,etc.. Kindly expand on how and where chronic diseases are acertained in the Kalapurush kundali.. Many thanks Sheevani , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64 wrote: > > > Sheevani147 Madam Namaste, > > Sagittarian Lagna, Jupiter in 8H. 8H is not related to chronic > diseases, but makes the native emotional i.e. it is in the Cancer Sign > ??? Yes Cancer, which means exalted in 8H. Result emotional issues > prevail.. Jupiter happens to be 4HL also. Emotions are often equated > with Heart. > > Natural Karaka for Chest, in Kalpurush kundali is again Moon or Cancer. > Ignoring Moon position for a while for I do not have that information in > this mail, limiting to Cancer sign. > > Dr. Charak who himself is a surgeon of repute in India and also a expert > astro himself...{seeing or knowing him is believing....he is astro_par > excellence .....I am yet to grabble at plausible reasons for some his > predictions......}...in his various articles on medical astrology where > his proficiency is more.....has mentions this about Cancer Sign. > > With regards, > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > , " sheevani147 " > <sheevani147@> wrote: > > Om Namah Shivaye > > Namaste Chiranjiv ji, > > Lagnesh Jupiter in 8H of chronic diseases will definately give > liver/digestion troubles..Mars being conjuct in same nakshatra of > Shani will give surgery.. The native had gall bladder problems (bile > from liver stored in gall bladder) and native had surgery to remove > gall bladder... > > As for diabetes, there is a family medical history, so probability of > the native to get diabetes is high.. > > Hope that satisfies your curiosity.. > > One question... Same Jupiter is also lord of 4H, hence chest illness, > especially breathing (respiratory) illness may also be a > possiblity???? > > native is a non-smoker and is in good health generally.. why??? > > Regards > Sheevani > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Sheevani147 Madam ji, To my understanding, there is no specific house for " chronic diseases " ....it is only 6H which has been assigned the duties. Planets in 6H indicate whether it is chronic or acute or transitory....malefics can indicate acute or chronic.....planets in their moolatrikona or exaltion in 6H may indicate acute .... " ordinary " placements or retros or debilitated planets tend to give you chronic diseases....i.e. they give you a good company..... Example : Female, 24 Feb. 1975, Delhi, Capricon Lagna, exchange of LL & 2HL Satur{R} & 6HL & 9HL Mercury. This lady is continuously with either cold or cough or fever...of short durations...has suffered minor head injuries....continue to hear about her head injuries every year......{ in Lagna, she also has exalted Mars + Mercury conjunction} Ok not yet convinced, let us twist the case little bit.....let us talk about her father.....i.e. 9H...keep your fore finger on this....see the 6HL Saturn is retrograde....in a Mercurial sign Gemini. Father has a rare disease of " cell " degeneration.... I could not verify with her father's hororscope, for his birth data is not availbe i.e. not recorded. Generally, I am weak in medical knowledge & medical astrology, yet in few cases, could hit bulls eye, .....I am myself surprised....words just came....but in reality I strictly avoid commenting for I know my inherent weakness in this aspect of astrology. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas , " sheevani147 " <sheevani147 wrote: > > Om Namah Shivaye, > > Namaste Sreeram ji, > > I stand corrected.. thanks for the guidance.. I have always held that > the 6H among other things signified acute illness episodes and the > chronic diseases were signified by the 8H,, as well as circumstances > of death.. eg.. place and periods of unconciousness prior death,etc.. > > Kindly expand on how and where chronic diseases are acertained in the > Kalapurush kundali.. > > Many thanks > Sheevani > > , " sreeram srinivas " > sreeram64@ wrote: > > > > > > Sheevani147 Madam Namaste, > > > > Sagittarian Lagna, Jupiter in 8H. 8H is not related to chronic > > diseases, but makes the native emotional i.e. it is in the Cancer > Sign > > ??? Yes Cancer, which means exalted in 8H. Result emotional issues > > prevail.. Jupiter happens to be 4HL also. Emotions are often > equated > > with Heart. > > > > Natural Karaka for Chest, in Kalpurush kundali is again Moon or > Cancer. > > Ignoring Moon position for a while for I do not have that > information in > > this mail, limiting to Cancer sign. > > > > Dr. Charak who himself is a surgeon of repute in India and also a > expert > > astro himself...{seeing or knowing him is believing....he is > astro_par > > excellence .....I am yet to grabble at plausible reasons for some > his > > predictions......}...in his various articles on medical astrology > where > > his proficiency is more.....has mentions this about Cancer Sign. > > > > With regards, > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > , " sheevani147 " > > <sheevani147@> wrote: > > > > Om Namah Shivaye > > > > Namaste Chiranjiv ji, > > > > Lagnesh Jupiter in 8H of chronic diseases will definately give > > liver/digestion troubles..Mars being conjuct in same nakshatra of > > Shani will give surgery.. The native had gall bladder problems (bile > > from liver stored in gall bladder) and native had surgery to remove > > gall bladder... > > > > As for diabetes, there is a family medical history, so probability > of > > the native to get diabetes is high.. > > > > Hope that satisfies your curiosity.. > > > > One question... Same Jupiter is also lord of 4H, hence chest > illness, > > especially breathing (respiratory) illness may also be a > > possiblity???? > > > > native is a non-smoker and is in good health generally.. why??? > > > > Regards > > Sheevani > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Dear Shivani ji, You start wondering about Mars....mmm.... That essentially means that (some guesses) - * Saturn in Cancer & Jupiter in Libra means a 1955 horoscope; i.e. must be your own horoscope (or is it your husbands? - possibly not). * You are wondering about Mars means Mars dasa is over; means possibly the dasa of Rahu would be running - Rahu in Sagittarius. * Mars in Cancer; From 13th to 15th of July 1955 Moon was in Aries; You posted this mail here in this forum on 14-Jan-2008; So I wonder whether you are born in Bharani Nakshatra (or is it 13th?) - In which case it is confirmed that you are running Rahu dasa currently. * Mars in in Cancer - a sign indicating astrology and other occult subjects. Your interest in astrology and similar subjects must have started in your Mars Dasa - yes, there was sufficient difficulties as well at that time to provide an inquisitiveness about the destiny; Agni-martuta, the thunder storms. It is good to see you matured approach of presenting the chart without specifically mentioning it is yours. Yes, we all at times wonder about our own horoscope. Just sharing some thoughts..... Love and regards,Sreenadh , "sheevani147" <sheevani147 wrote:>> Om namah Shivaye,> > Namaste Sreenadhji,> > Thank you for confirming the Agni Maruta yoga..> > Actually I was looking at the parivartan yoga in the said chart > between the 8L(moon) and the 5L,12L Mars, when I wondered about the > shani/mars combination, with both aspecting each other by the 4:10 > position aspect. Looking closer, Lagnesh Jupiter and mars was in > shani's star and shani was in Jupiter's star..> > I just wrote as per my chain of thoughts..> > Regards> Sheevani> > , "Sreenadh" > sreesog@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Shivani ji,> > Agni Maruta yoga is present - and it affects both 11th from > Lagna> > and 8th from Lagna. Mars in 8th is not good, so as Saturn > aspected by> > Mars in 11th - both will give there respective bad results; if the> > relevant dasa comes. Also note that 5th lord going to 8th in> > debilitation has its own bad results as well. Exalted Jupiter is > good, > > and so as exalted Saturn - they will give their good results as > well,> > in the relevant dasa.> > But I wonder - what was the purpose of asking the question in > such a> > round about way?!> > Regards,> > Sreenadh> > , "kishore patnaik"> > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote:> > >> > > Very cleverly asked.> > >> > > The lagna is Sagittarius with Mars and Jupiter being in Pushya in> > Cancer.> > > The Saturn must be in Libra in 11th.> > >> > > I dont know to who this chart belongs but self doubt seems to be > the> > only> > > fault this person will have, with Lagna lord being in Saturn's> > nakshatra.> > >> > > On the other hand, Pushya is a nice star for a planet to be > posited in> > with> > > Jupiter in it in exaltation, too. Mars no doubt can spoil things > a> > bit but> > > it is under the influence of the Saturn, which would reduce the> > effects of> > > the mars. Hence, there may be problem to get children.> > >> > > The exchange of Jupiter and Saturn can make the native a fair > minded> > and> > > highly inflexible/disciplined person.> > >> > > The aspect of Saturn, 3rd Lord on 8th lord will spoil the VRY.> > >> > > In general, a good planetary combination.> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Kishore patnaik> > >> > >> > > On Jan 14, 2008 5:32 AM, sheevani147 sheevani147@ wrote:> > >> > > > Om Namah Shivaye..> > > >> > > > Namaste,> > > >> > > > If Mars as 12L is in 8H conjuct Jupiter,both in shani > nakshatra, and> > is> > > > aspected by Shani (in Jupiter nakshatra) and mars is also > aspecting> > > > Shani.. In this combination, mars is in kendra to shani and > shani is> > > > also in kendra to Mars (4:10 position).. Does this constitute an> > Agni> > > > maruta yoga? When does this yoga get triggered and what are its> > > > effects?> > > >> > > > Many thanks> > > > Sheevani> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Dear Srinivas ji, As sivani ji mentioned -==>Lagnesh Jupiter in 8H of chronic diseases will definitely giveliver/digestion troubles.. Mars being conjunct in same nakshatra ofShani will give surgery.. The native had gall bladder problems (bilefrom liver stored in gall bladder) and native had surgery to removegall bladder...As for diabetes, there is a family medical history, so probability ofthe native to get diabetes is high..Hope that satisfies your curiosity..One question... Same Jupiter is also lord of 4H, hence chest illness,especially breathing (respiratory) illness may also be apossibility????<==From this we can infer that the following are FACTS - * The native had chronic diseases such as liver/digestion troubles. * He underwent a surgery. (possibly in Mars dasa) * The native had gall bladder problems (bile from liver stored in gall bladder) and native had surgery to remove gall bladder. * There is a family medical history, so probability of the native to get diabetes is high. But currently the native is NOT diabetic - except possibly slightly. Possibly since 1955 born he is already 52 years of age. Usually the querent reveal much information unintentionally ;=) At time clever astrologers make use of it in presenting the same itself as predictions! Is it that psychology and intellect also playing a good role in help in arriving at the right predicti0n that suits the client? Anyway the point is that - the astrologer too must be alert and conscious. :)Love and regards,Sreenadhnative is a non-smoker and is in good health generally.. why??? , "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote:>> > Sheevani147 Madam Namaste,> > Sagittarian Lagna, Jupiter in 8H. 8H is not related to chronic> diseases, but makes the native emotional i.e. it is in the Cancer Sign> ??? Yes Cancer, which means exalted in 8H. Result emotional issues> prevail.. Jupiter happens to be 4HL also. Emotions are often equated> with Heart.> > Natural Karaka for Chest, in Kalpurush kundali is again Moon or Cancer.> Ignoring Moon position for a while for I do not have that information in> this mail, limiting to Cancer sign.> > Dr. Charak who himself is a surgeon of repute in India and also a expert> astro himself...{seeing or knowing him is believing....he is astro_par> excellence .....I am yet to grabble at plausible reasons for some his> predictions......}...in his various articles on medical astrology where> his proficiency is more.....has mentions this about Cancer Sign.> > With regards,> > Sreeram_Srinivas> > , "sheevani147"> sheevani147@ wrote:> > Om Namah Shivaye> > Namaste Chiranjiv ji,> > Lagnesh Jupiter in 8H of chronic diseases will definately give> liver/digestion troubles..Mars being conjuct in same nakshatra of> Shani will give surgery.. The native had gall bladder problems (bile> from liver stored in gall bladder) and native had surgery to remove> gall bladder...> > As for diabetes, there is a family medical history, so probability of> the native to get diabetes is high..> > Hope that satisfies your curiosity..> > One question... Same Jupiter is also lord of 4H, hence chest illness,> especially breathing (respiratory) illness may also be a> possiblity????> > native is a non-smoker and is in good health generally.. why???> > Regards> Sheevani> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Shivaniji pranam, Do not call me ji as I am still a kid age wise and otherwise. The observation was only derieved from one fact : Jupiter is karaka of Liver so you will liver of such people affected. Similarly those with Mars-Rahu are fond of liquor etc. Looks like I have created some confusion in the Rahu-Ketu parivartan post before logging off yesterday. The imp thing is that there are some postulates given in our scriptures whcih give an instant result. We need to acknowledge that and the go into the reasons of such a rule. The elders will be kind enough to tell us why. --- On Tue, 15/1/08, sheevani147 <sheevani147 wrote: sheevani147 <sheevani147 Re: shani mars combinations.. Date: Tuesday, 15 January, 2008, 4:18 AM Om Namah ShivayeNamaste Chiranjiv ji,Lagnesh Jupiter in 8H of chronic diseases will definately give liver/digestion troubles..Mars being conjuct in same nakshatra of Shani will give surgery.. The native had gall bladder problems (bile from liver stored in gall bladder) and native had surgery to remove gall bladder...As for diabetes, there is a family medical history, so probability of the native to get diabetes is high..Hope that satisfies your curiosity..One question... Same Jupiter is also lord of 4H, hence chest illness, especially breathing (respiratory) illness may also be a possiblity?? ??native is a non-smoker and is in good health generally.. why???RegardsSheevani 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 the "person" should have tried homeopathy for removal of frozen/solid bile juice crystals which are mistaken as stones in sonography. A short while ago a 4year old kid was adviced the same, on my insistence the father took him to homeopath and the 'stones" were dissolved. No astrology in it but the thought of the kid spending his life without gallblader made me nag the father. Jupiter aspects the 4th from 8th & 4th happens to be its own house so.... big green house, bade dilwala, place of worship nearby etc. Tell me about the persons mother? Sun in the 6th house makes you a quack. I do not have it. If other members of the group have it please send your experiences. Also the negative aspects of saturns aspects are in a way nullified ( atleast healthwise ) if Mars also aspects that same house.--- On Tue, 15/1/08, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Sreenadh <sreesog Re: shani mars combinations.. Date: Tuesday, 15 January, 2008, 12:02 PM Dear Srinivas ji, As sivani ji mentioned -==>Lagnesh Jupiter in 8H of chronic diseases will definitely giveliver/digestion troubles.. Mars being conjunct in same nakshatra ofShani will give surgery.. The native had gall bladder problems (bilefrom liver stored in gall bladder) and native had surgery to removegall bladder...As for diabetes, there is a family medical history, so probability ofthe native to get diabetes is high..Hope that satisfies your curiosity..One question... Same Jupiter is also lord of 4H, hence chest illness,especially breathing (respiratory) illness may also be apossibility? ???<==From this we can infer that the following are FACTS - * The native had chronic diseases such as liver/digestion troubles. * He underwent a surgery. (possibly in Mars dasa) * The native had gall bladder problems (bile from liver stored in gall bladder) and native had surgery to remove gall bladder. * There is a family medical history, so probability of the native to get diabetes is high. But currently the native is NOT diabetic - except possibly slightly. Possibly since 1955 born he is already 52 years of age. Usually the querent reveal much information unintentionally ;=) At time clever astrologers make use of it in presenting the same itself as predictions! Is it that psychology and intellect also playing a good role in help in arriving at the right predicti0n that suits the client? Anyway the point is that - the astrologer too must be alert and conscious. :)Love and regards,Sreenadhnative is a non-smoker and is in good health generally.. why???ancient_indian_ astrology, "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64@.. .> wrote:>> > Sheevani147 Madam Namaste,> > Sagittarian Lagna, Jupiter in 8H. 8H is not related to chronic> diseases, but makes the native emotional i.e. it is in the Cancer Sign> ??? Yes Cancer, which means exalted in 8H. Result emotional issues> prevail.. Jupiter happens to be 4HL also. Emotions are often equated> with Heart.> > Natural Karaka for Chest, in Kalpurush kundali is again Moon or Cancer.> Ignoring Moon position for a while for I do not have that information in> this mail, limiting to Cancer sign.> > Dr. Charak who himself is a surgeon of repute in India and also a expert> astro himself...{seeing or knowing him is believing... .he is astro_par> excellence .....I am yet to grabble at plausible reasons for some his> predictions. .....}... in his various articles on medical astrology where> his proficiency is more.....has mentions this about Cancer Sign.> > With regards,> > Sreeram_Srinivas> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sheevani147"> sheevani147@ wrote:> > Om Namah Shivaye> > Namaste Chiranjiv ji,> > Lagnesh Jupiter in 8H of chronic diseases will definately give> liver/digestion troubles..Mars being conjuct in same nakshatra of> Shani will give surgery.. The native had gall bladder problems (bile> from liver stored in gall bladder) and native had surgery to remove> gall bladder...> > As for diabetes, there is a family medical history, so probability of> the native to get diabetes is high..> > Hope that satisfies your curiosity..> > One question... Same Jupiter is also lord of 4H, hence chest illness,> especially breathing (respiratory) illness may also be a> possiblity?? ??> > native is a non-smoker and is in good health generally.. why???> > Regards> Sheevani> Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 I think the statement " those with Mars-Rahu are fond of liquor etc " is not true mostly as I have similar combination in my lagna (Tula). However I never developed the taste for the same. SG On Jan 15, 2008 1:57 PM, chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv wrote: Shivaniji pranam, Do not call me ji as I am still a kid age wise and otherwise. The observation was only derieved from one fact : Jupiter is karaka of Liver so you will liver of such people affected. Similarly those with Mars-Rahu are fond of liquor etc. Looks like I have created some confusion in the Rahu-Ketu parivartan post before logging off yesterday. The imp thing is that there are some postulates given in our scriptures whcih give an instant result. We need to acknowledge that and the go into the reasons of such a rule. The elders will be kind enough to tell us why. --- On Tue, 15/1/08, sheevani147 <sheevani147 wrote: sheevani147 <sheevani147 Re: shani mars combinations.. Date: Tuesday, 15 January, 2008, 4:18 AM Om Namah ShivayeNamaste Chiranjiv ji,Lagnesh Jupiter in 8H of chronic diseases will definately give liver/digestion troubles..Mars being conjuct in same nakshatra of Shani will give surgery.. The native had gall bladder problems (bile from liver stored in gall bladder) and native had surgery to remove gall bladder...As for diabetes, there is a family medical history, so probability of the native to get diabetes is high..Hope that satisfies your curiosity.. One question... Same Jupiter is also lord of 4H, hence chest illness, especially breathing (respiratory) illness may also be a possiblity?? ??native is a non-smoker and is in good health generally.. why??? RegardsSheevani 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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