Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Dear MCPL_Manager Saab, You have valid point in saying that there is nothing spectacular in such hororscopes & it is ordinary life like anyother. Can you share the other horoscopes you mentioned which have similar combinations?? for such crowded planet combinations do not happen frequently i.e. 30-35 yrs gap. Is it possible that the hororscopes you are referring are all of 1962 born ? Public or Offline. I think in May 2003 or 2004, there was combination, where 3-4 planets planets were exalted at a time....for somebody came up with a child born dead or born then dead, hororscope, wanting to know how why ?? The issue is how to analyse such crowded houses, for there are debilitation, exaltation, moolatrikona all one place, similarly the yogas...., it is immaterial that whether the native is rich or poor or average. We are trying to astro_probe why?? Example: We have or had our Mr.Prafullaji, who had real " astro_hang " of wanting to know why he had heart attack and is continuing his quest inspite of many people giving analysis - may be he is yet to get bulls-eye explanation!! Yes people are obssessed & excited with planetary placement in respective horoscopes...for they seem to run to nearest panditji, immediately on seeing a exalted or debilitated or ...etc.. Knowing Renuji, she has the same child inquisitiveness to know-why? attitude, not so much carried away either by status or planets in respective individual charts. Her interest in astrology has been around 5-6 yrs...., so having known with social circle, she started collecting birthdata, then noticing the astro_signatures...... It is NOT like Mr. Bilal is designated heir apparent to Pak's PPP, that the girls want to fell in love with him seeking his hororscope..... In this case, she already knew the person for years, ......astro_interest came much much later.....So she has NO feeling of Awe !! as observed by you. I was once cornered by a elderly Kashmiri Lady, who is Head of a large Japanese Corporation, closely known to me, who gave HER mother's hororscope + One more hororscope, with few minutes difference = on getting the analysis, she later revealed that the second hororscope was of a son{Prince} born to King of Kashmir that times/those days. {I was those days looking for someone who knew how to read " sharada language " for I had some original horoscope analysis written in that language using lesser known techniques..so wanting to know from it...}. Concluding, it is all about knowing why ?? attitude, the difference of good planetary placement and average life, and very average planets, high lifes !! Example: Our Rahul Gandhi & Pak's Bilal Zardari -son of Benazir Bhutto ?? Surely this people planets should be on par with those on average roadside hawkers !! yet so much difference !!! So it is all about knowing right astro_signatures or patterns.......so that you are NOT lost where to start & what to say when you see such planetary placements. Note: Do not count first or second,keep posting.....good to see Managers are taking interests....... With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas , MCPL Manager <mcpl_manager wrote: > > RENUJI & ALL OTHERS OF ASTRO GROUPS > > I am writing Ist time over this Topic by compulsion. I felt strongly what you all written about this lady either by intitution or previous knowledge about the 8 Planets in a single house that is Lagna is all where you all are writing the very common things. How the only one consideration that is 8 Planets are so become an issue. In my last 22 Years of career I have seen around 100 horoscopes of either 8 Planets or 7 planets in a single house but I never felt such a issue as because all were/are leading a commonly average or good life. Once a person judgement depending upon Diffrent Varga Kundlis and various Other considerations what is here to be so sensitive of only one issue that is 8 planets in Lagna. > > In my analysis besides all other things common I have never find anything unusual (I mean any thing extraordinary which is very diffrent from the average Horoscopes) in such horoscopes. Except One thing that is Mental Blockade of Imagination or Creativity beyond a limit. It psychologically binds a person in a particular perimeter throughout her/his life Basically that is also one of the reason of their best domestic & family life because a family life need a complete attention & a short perimeter for being proved to be a happy Married life. But it is not too good for progress.It has limits of Mental & Physical progress sometimes & for someone little while for someone more. > > So I think Accumulation of Planets shall not be so highlighted in the manner you all are doing but shall be studied only as one of the factor of a person's overall Growth. > > Aditya(adityadaga)(mcpl_manager) > > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } Dear Renu, > > Thank you for your reply, its much appreciated. > > I have one comment on the quote below > > " If she is married, she will truly love her husband very much. They will get along. > Yes, they get along. Married for 26 years to Pisces lagna native. If love is looking after her husband well, caring for him, preparing his favourite food, attending to his needs and also to the needs of his family especially when they are in trouble...yes...she truly loves him. If love is being truly faithful to the husband...???? " > > Ash : Yes, this is what I meant. There will be no divorce if she is married. Now having extramarital affairs is different thing, but she will not leave her husband. > > Ve is with Ma and with Sa and with Ju as well and Ve to sun distance is less than 3deg20, all these planets are SD to sun who is 12th from 7th and in navamsa of Sun who is 12th lord from 7th house. Here I am not referring to Sun as lord of 6th house because Sun and Moon do not take on property of 6th lord, but yes as lord of 12th from 7th they will reduce the happiness of 7th house matters. > > So, all these things I had see, but also the fact that lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in Navamsa and that too from i.e .Ju and Ma lords of Rasi's 1st and 9th lords are in 5:9 in Navamsa and that too from Lagna, Sun and Moon. > > Also lagna and 7th lords are all in same house and in 5:9 in navamsa from Mo, Su, Ve, Ma and from lagna they are in 1:1 or same house or Samdharmi. > > If possible, I would like one more information before I hit my drawing board. > > Did this lady have any miscarriages or any abortions? > > > Quote > > " She also might be a difficult person to get along with. > No dear, I cannot agree to this. She is very social and interact very will with anyone. Hope this helps. blessings – Renu " > By this, what I meant was her volatile nature and her lagna having 29 points is what I meant and also 6 of the d chart lagnas being that of Jupiter. > > Thanks for the feed back. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > On Behalf Of renunw > Friday January 4, 2008 10:30 PM > > Re: 8 planets in a house! - attn Renu > > > Dear Ash, > I would like to study this chart. This chart is very interesting. > Indeed...as interesting as the lady herself..one could say. > This chart has powerful blessings of father and Guru. The SAV points in 9th house are very high, so evidently 5th, 12th, 7th, 10th, 11th and 2nd house the power has gone down considerably. > You are right. She was her father's pet. They loved each other a lot. Father died of cancer a few years ago and she looked after him with lot of care and concern. > > This means that when planets travel from 7th to 9th house in Transit her daily points would jump up considerably, and moon travels fast, so she might have huge up's and down swings in her day to day life. > True. She is a bit volatile. > What is the status of her children, does she have any? If she has any, where there any complication and c-section delivery? > She had very easy deliveries. She has two sons born in 1986 December and 1992 December. Both are Saggitarius lagna. > If she is married, she will truly love her husband very much. They will get along. > Yes, they get along. Married for 26 years to Pisces lagna native. If love is looking after her husband well, caring for him, preparing his favourite food, attending to his needs and also to the needs of his family especially when they are in trouble...yes...she truly loves him. If love is being truly faithful to the husband...???? > Her career is related to sun, cap and 11th house, Royal, Government or even in some religious institution or something like that. > No, she is not employed. She is a housewife. > She would have Average intelligence. > I would agree with you. She is intelligent and shrewd. > Her life will go smooth, despite so many problems that might come her way, that will be due to powerful blessings. > Exactly. Absolutely correct. > She also might be a difficult person to get along with. > No dear, I cannot agree to this. She is very social and interact very will with anyone. Hope this helps. blessings - Renu > > > Cheers !!! > , " Ash's Corner@ " kas@ wrote: > > > > Dear Renu, > > > > > > > > I would like to study this chart. This chart is very interesting. > > > > > > > > This chart has powerful blessings of father and Guru. The SAV points in 9th > > house are very high, so evidently 5th, 12th, 7th, 10th, 11th and 2nd house > > the power has gone down considerably. > > > > > > > > This means that when planets travel from 7th to 9th house in Transit her > > daily points would jump up considerably, and moon travels fast, so she might > > have huge up's and down swings in her day to day life. > > > > > > > > What is the status of her children, does she have any? If she has any, > > where there any complication and c-section delivery? > > > > > > > > If she is married, she will truly love her husband very much. They will get > > along. > > > > > > > > Her career is related to sun, cap and 11th house, Royal, Government or even > > in some religious institution or something like that. > > > > > > > > She would have Average intelligence. > > > > > > > > Her life will go smooth, despite so many problems that might come her way, > > that will be due to powerful blessings. > > > > > > > > She also might be a difficult person to get along with. > > > > > > > > The difference between 9th and 10th house SAV points is a lot. > > > > > > > > Renu, I am interested in the feedback, when you decide to disclose. Can you > > please comment on my points, if u have some spare time. That will help me > > in my studies. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > _____ > > > > > > On Behalf Of renunw > > Thursday January 3, 2008 2:14 PM > > > > 8 planets in a house! > > > > > > > > Dear Sreeram ji, > > > > " Note: It has been over 25yrs that I willingly went and saw a movie in > > any cinema or a theatre " > > > > But your inspiring mails lack no less creativity than that in a movie! > > > > Now to all:........the following is the chart of a lady with 8 planets in a > > house! > > > > Febraury 5, 1962 @ 9.40 AM in Kandy, Sri Lanka. > > > > The lady is an interesting character, I would keep the rest for anyone > > interested to find out. > > > > blessings > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sreeram srinivas " > > sreeram64@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv, > > > > > > When there are more planets in a house, then Nabhas Yoga principles > > > apply. The planets in crowded 8H, aspect the 2H representing the voice, > > > throat...etc.. Malefic influence indicates harsh or " sharp " voice { > > > Sharp = Kadak = bitter= voice} {we all in North India like Kadak Tea}. > > > Unlike other yogas, Nabhas Yogas are dasha independent. > > > > > > It is incorrect to conclude " higher density of planets " in a House gives > > > magnetic voice. Such planetary combination gives rise to inner > > > strength {depending upon crowded " place " - Mumbai Local Trains or Delhi > > > Metro} and the no. of other yogas increase. That many yogas a person > > > has that much amount of respect as a person.....in the first > > > instance....whether you are introduced to him or not.....there is a > > > magnetic appeal in his poise. > > > > > > In all such cases, one has to see the " amsa " of the planets for knowing > > > the true positions, else there will be a fair chance of failure !! > > > Shortly, one can say on a conservative basis, financially ok, obstacles > > > galore, interest in occult or mysticism, greater realization of life, > > > health effected, changes in career or profession on positive side, > > > ability of native to stay competitive irrespective of reversals in life, > > > strong wealth inheritance from father, will take risk to say that the > > > native has multiple sources of income - are all foregone conclusions. > > > > > > Would like to know in brief of the native's father career or fortune > > > GRAPH & hardwork. The native mother & father had a good mutual respect > > > between them, with a very supportive mother. The mother of the native > > > must be more beautiful than the father who may be of a darker shade. > > > Tell me about paternal uncles of the native { must be elder to native's > > > father}, who may be educated and either working in govt. or relation or > > > co-ordination with govt. office. > > > > > > Note: It has been over 25yrs that I willingly went and saw a movie in > > > any cinema or a theatre. > > > > > > Sorry, I am to disappoint you in giving any filmi analogy in this > > > response. > > > > > > Kindly refer my previous emails where I gave two horoscopes of a couple > > > who have similar high density {nano technology} horoscopes. > > > > > > Wth regards, > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Dear Aditya, Your experience and whether you are an astrologer or not is not at all relevent here. Actually your words itself clarify that - ==> > I have crossed 47 and in last 23 years of my career of Astro > Palmistry, Numereology I have never find an exact answer of "Why" in > advance (!!!) <== If so what you are doing as an astrologer, palmist, or numerologist or what ever that be!!! So the point is - What is relevent is your clear understaning and sharing of that knowledge (as much limited amount you have) in the group - which we are yet to see. Hope you see this simple point - and come down the glass castle. Love and regards, Sreenadh , MCPL Manager <mcpl_manager wrote:>> Dear Srinisavanji> > At the outset I want to clarify not only to you but all that I get not only surprised but get mesmerised by your Most Logical analyses about Horoscopes and your way of expalanations of various issues in the Horoscopes. I never felt writing just to make unnecessary remarks or stretching the things beyond limits against any write up which you all are making which i really and seriously appreciate. Specially I am more seriously attached with your explanations which are truely very scientific, mind blowing and more or less appreciating.> > However One thing I have in contradiction to all the members of and that is:-> > " In Astrology there is never a answer of every "whyHow" "where""when." So a deep exhaustive, research oriented Shastra it is where every single movement you are learning something new from the practical incidents andanalysing the people's life which can not be superimposed on the analysis of others or can not be compared with others in one way or other. it simply guide and not determine. It simply teach and not frame.> > I have crossed 47 and in last 23 years of my career of Astro Palmistry, Numereology I have never find an exact answer of "Why" in advance, may be Post incident it is correctly analysed "why & when". So we all shall try to eleminate this part of analysing "Why on the established horoscopes" we all shall try to make strong ourselves on Fundamentals, their Extractions, Exceptions, Research etc. and try to utilise our resources in the Human & social welfare.> > Calrifying this If "Any One died of Explosion" we all analysed reasons & "Why Post death", Can any one say guranteed that the "other person more or less born on the same day & date , year and place even in the same hospital with same level of horoscope & combination will die of same reasons Of Explosion. " You know also better it's answer . No No one can say it guranteed that the same incident will repeat with that other fellow besides all the same combinations.> > So renuji or any one else try to Process , Finish the explored Things and don't go beyond that explorations otherwise you will be simply in the raw Mess and will not derive anything concrete.> > However Thanks to Mr srinivasanji for analysing the things beautifully every time. I am conveying special thanks to him.> > Aditya (adityadaga) (mcpl_manager)> > > > > > sreeram srinivas sreeram64 wrote:> Dear MCPL_Manager Saab,> > You have valid point in saying that there is nothing spectacular in such> hororscopes & it is ordinary life like anyother.> > Can you share the other horoscopes you mentioned which have similar> combinations?? for such crowded planet combinations do not happen> frequently i.e. 30-35 yrs gap. Is it possible that the hororscopes you> are referring are all of 1962 born ? Public or Offline.> > I think in May 2003 or 2004, there was combination, where 3-4 planets> planets were exalted at a time....for somebody came up with a child born> dead or born then dead, hororscope, wanting to know how why ??> > The issue is how to analyse such crowded houses, for there are> debilitation, exaltation, moolatrikona all one place, similarly the> yogas...., it is immaterial that whether the native is rich or poor or> average. We are trying to astro_probe why??> > Example: We have or had our Mr.Prafullaji, who had real "astro_hang" of> wanting to know why he had heart attack and is continuing his quest> inspite of many people giving analysis - may be he is yet to get> bulls-eye explanation!!> > Yes people are obssessed & excited with planetary placement in> respective horoscopes...for they seem to run to nearest panditji,> immediately on seeing a exalted or debilitated or ...etc..> > Knowing Renuji, she has the same child inquisitiveness to know-why?> attitude, not so much carried away either by status or planets in> respective individual charts. Her interest in astrology has been around> 5-6 yrs...., so having known with social circle, she started collecting> birthdata, then noticing the astro_signatures...... It is NOT like Mr.> Bilal is designated heir apparent to Pak's PPP, that the girls want to> fell in love with him seeking his hororscope..... In this case, she> already knew the person for years, ......astro_interest came much much> later.....So she has NO feeling of Awe !! as observed by you.> > I was once cornered by a elderly Kashmiri Lady, who is Head of a large> Japanese Corporation, closely known to me, who gave HER mother's> hororscope + One more hororscope, with few minutes difference = on> getting the analysis, she later revealed that the second hororscope was> of a son{Prince} born to King of Kashmir that times/those days. {I was> those days looking for someone who knew how to read "sharada language"> for I had some original horoscope analysis written in that language> using lesser known techniques..so wanting to know from it...}.> > Concluding, it is all about knowing why ?? attitude, the difference of> good planetary placement and average life, and very average planets,> high lifes !! Example: Our Rahul Gandhi & Pak's Bilal Zardari -son of> Benazir Bhutto ?? Surely this people planets should be on par with> those on average roadside hawkers !! yet so much difference !!!> > So it is all about knowing right astro_signatures or patterns.......so> that you are NOT lost where to start & what to say when you see such> planetary placements.> > Note: Do not count first or second,keep posting.....good to see Managers are taking interests.......> > With regards,> > Sreeram_Srinivas> > > , MCPL Manager> wrote:> >> > RENUJI & ALL OTHERS OF ASTRO GROUPS> >> > I am writing Ist time over this Topic by compulsion. I felt strongly> what you all written about this lady either by intitution or previous> knowledge about the 8 Planets in a single house that is Lagna is all> where you all are writing the very common things. How the only one> consideration that is 8 Planets are so become an issue. In my last 22> Years of career I have seen around 100 horoscopes of either 8 Planets or> 7 planets in a single house but I never felt such a issue as because all> were/are leading a commonly average or good life. Once a person> judgement depending upon Diffrent Varga Kundlis and various Other> considerations what is here to be so sensitive of only one issue that is> 8 planets in Lagna.> >> > In my analysis besides all other things common I have never find> anything unusual (I mean any thing extraordinary which is very diffrent> from the average Horoscopes) in such horoscopes. Except One thing that> is Mental Blockade of Imagination or Creativity beyond a limit. It> psychologically binds a person in a particular perimeter throughout> her/his life Basically that is also one of the reason of their best> domestic & family life because a family life need a complete attention & > a short perimeter for being proved to be a happy Married life. But it is> not too good for progress.It has limits of Mental & Physical progress> sometimes & for someone little while for someone more.> >> > So I think Accumulation of Planets shall not be so highlighted in the> manner you all are doing but shall be studied only as one of the factor> of a person's overall Growth.> >> > Aditya(adityadaga@)(mcpl_manager@)> >> > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}> w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } Dear Renu,> >> > Thank you for your reply, its much appreciated.> >> > I have one comment on the quote below> >> > "If she is married, she will truly love her husband very much.> They will get along.> > Yes, they get along. Married for 26 years to Pisces lagna native. If> love is looking after her husband well, caring for him, preparing his> favourite food, attending to his needs and also to the needs of his> family especially when they are in trouble...yes...she truly loves him.> If love is being truly faithful to the husband...????"> >> > Ash : Yes, this is what I meant. There will be no divorce if she is> married. Now having extramarital affairs is different thing, but she> will not leave her husband.> >> > Ve is with Ma and with Sa and with Ju as well and Ve to sun distance> is less than 3deg20, all these planets are SD to sun who is 12th from> 7th and in navamsa of Sun who is 12th lord from 7th house. Here I am not> referring to Sun as lord of 6th house because Sun and Moon do not take> on property of 6th lord, but yes as lord of 12th from 7th they will> reduce the happiness of 7th house matters.> >> > So, all these things I had see, but also the fact that lagna and 9th> lords are in 5:9 in Navamsa and that too from i.e .Ju and Ma lords of> Rasi's 1st and 9th lords are in 5:9 in Navamsa and that too from> Lagna, Sun and Moon.> >> > Also lagna and 7th lords are all in same house and in 5:9 in navamsa> from Mo, Su, Ve, Ma and from lagna they are in 1:1 or same house or> Samdharmi.> >> > If possible, I would like one more information before I hit my drawing> board.> >> > Did this lady have any miscarriages or any abortions?> >> >> > Quote> >> > "She also might be a difficult person to get along with.> > No dear, I cannot agree to this. She is very social and interact very> will with anyone. Hope this helps. blessings – Renu"> > By this, what I meant was her volatile nature and her lagna having 29> points is what I meant and also 6 of the d chart lagnas being that of> Jupiter.> >> > Thanks for the feed back.> >> > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> >> >> > > >> > > On Behalf Of renunw> > Friday January 4, 2008 10:30 PM> > > > Re: 8 planets in a house! - attn> Renu> >> >> > Dear Ash,> > I would like to study this chart. This chart is very interesting.> > Indeed...as interesting as the lady herself..one could say.> > This chart has powerful blessings of father and Guru. The SAV points> in 9th house are very high, so evidently 5th, 12th, 7th, 10th, 11th and> 2nd house the power has gone down considerably.> > You are right. She was her father's pet. They loved each other a lot.> Father died of cancer a few years ago and she looked after him with lot> of care and concern.> >> > This means that when planets travel from 7th to 9th house in Transit> her daily points would jump up considerably, and moon travels fast, so> she might have huge up's and down swings in her day to day life.> > True. She is a bit volatile.> > What is the status of her children, does she have any? If she has any,> where there any complication and c-section delivery?> > She had very easy deliveries. She has two sons born in 1986 December> and 1992 December. Both are Saggitarius lagna.> > If she is married, she will truly love her husband very much. They> will get along.> > Yes, they get along. Married for 26 years to Pisces lagna native. If> love is looking after her husband well, caring for him, preparing his> favourite food, attending to his needs and also to the needs of his> family especially when they are in trouble...yes...she truly loves him.> If love is being truly faithful to the husband...????> > Her career is related to sun, cap and 11th house, Royal, Government or> even in some religious institution or something like that.> > No, she is not employed. She is a housewife.> > She would have Average intelligence.> > I would agree with you. She is intelligent and shrewd.> > Her life will go smooth, despite so many problems that might come her> way, that will be due to powerful blessings.> > Exactly. Absolutely correct.> > She also might be a difficult person to get along with.> > No dear, I cannot agree to this. She is very social and interact very> will with anyone. Hope this helps. blessings - Renu> >> >> > Cheers !!!> > , "Ash's Corner@" kas@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Renu,> > >> > >> > >> > > I would like to study this chart. This chart is very interesting.> > >> > >> > >> > > This chart has powerful blessings of father and Guru. The SAV points> in 9th> > > house are very high, so evidently 5th, 12th, 7th, 10th, 11th and 2nd> house> > > the power has gone down considerably.> > >> > >> > >> > > This means that when planets travel from 7th to 9th house in Transit> her> > > daily points would jump up considerably, and moon travels fast, so> she might> > > have huge up's and down swings in her day to day life.> > >> > >> > >> > > What is the status of her children, does she have any? If she has> any,> > > where there any complication and c-section delivery?> > >> > >> > >> > > If she is married, she will truly love her husband very much. They> will get> > > along.> > >> > >> > >> > > Her career is related to sun, cap and 11th house, Royal, Government> or even> > > in some religious institution or something like that.> > >> > >> > >> > > She would have Average intelligence.> > >> > >> > >> > > Her life will go smooth, despite so many problems that might come> her way,> > > that will be due to powerful blessings.> > >> > >> > >> > > She also might be a difficult person to get along with.> > >> > >> > >> > > The difference between 9th and 10th house SAV points is a lot.> > >> > >> > >> > > Renu, I am interested in the feedback, when you decide to disclose.> Can you> > > please comment on my points, if u have some spare time. That will> help me> > > in my studies.> > >> > >> > >> > > Cheers !!!> > >> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > >> > > _____> > >> > > > > > On Behalf Of> renunw> > > Thursday January 3, 2008 2:14 PM> > > > > > 8 planets in a house!> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Sreeram ji,> > >> > > "Note: It has been over 25yrs that I willingly went and saw a movie> in> > > any cinema or a theatre"> > >> > > But your inspiring mails lack no less creativity than that in a> movie!> > >> > > Now to all:........the following is the chart of a lady with 8> planets in a> > > house!> > >> > > Febraury 5, 1962 @ 9.40 AM in Kandy, Sri Lanka.> > >> > > The lady is an interesting character, I would keep the rest for> anyone> > > interested to find out.> > >> > > blessings> > >> > > Renu> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "sreeram srinivas"> > > sreeram64@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Chiranjiv,> > > >> > > > When there are more planets in a house, then Nabhas Yoga> principles> > > > apply. The planets in crowded 8H, aspect the 2H representing the> voice,> > > > throat...etc.. Malefic influence indicates harsh or "sharp" voice> {> > > > Sharp = Kadak = bitter= voice} {we all in North India like Kadak> Tea}.> > > > Unlike other yogas, Nabhas Yogas are dasha independent.> > > >> > > > It is incorrect to conclude "higher density of planets" in a House> gives> > > > magnetic voice. Such planetary combination gives rise to inner> > > > strength {depending upon crowded "place" - Mumbai Local Trains or> Delhi> > > > Metro} and the no. of other yogas increase. That many yogas a> person> > > > has that much amount of respect as a person.....in the first> > > > instance....whether you are introduced to him or not.....there is> a> > > > magnetic appeal in his poise.> > > >> > > > In all such cases, one has to see the "amsa" of the planets for> knowing> > > > the true positions, else there will be a fair chance of failure !!> > > > Shortly, one can say on a conservative basis, financially ok,> obstacles> > > > galore, interest in occult or mysticism, greater realization of> life,> > > > health effected, changes in career or profession on positive side,> > > > ability of native to stay competitive irrespective of reversals in> life,> > > > strong wealth inheritance from father, will take risk to say that> the> > > > native has multiple sources of income - are all foregone> conclusions.> > > >> > > > Would like to know in brief of the native's father career or> fortune> > > > GRAPH & hardwork. The native mother & father had a good mutual> respect> > > > between them, with a very supportive mother. The mother of the> native> > > > must be more beautiful than the father who may be of a darker> shade.> > > > Tell me about paternal uncles of the native { must be elder to> native's> > > > father}, who may be educated and either working in govt. or> relation or> > > > co-ordination with govt. office.> > > >> > > > Note: It has been over 25yrs that I willingly went and saw a movie> in> > > > any cinema or a theatre.> > > >> > > > Sorry, I am to disappoint you in giving any filmi analogy in this> > > > response.> > > >> > > > Kindly refer my previous emails where I gave two horoscopes of a> couple> > > > who have similar high density {nano technology} horoscopes.> > > >> > > > Wth regards,> > > >> > > > Sreeram_Srinivas> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. > >> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Dear Aditya, Every group has a purpose - especially this group definitely has one for sure, that is clearly stated in the group home page. Further the group home page reads - Important: ========= * Learn/Teach/Discuss. But please neither request for consultation nor respond to consultation request within the group. ==> > Similarly Common people Finding the astro Group of Astrologers or simply Learning members try to ask their Queries. <== If people lurking around are just came to get a free reading or if someone is here just to catch clients - then definitely this group is not for them. This is NOT a group for people who are trying to ask queries ONLY ABOUT there horoscope - such worms degrading astrology, and the decency of groups are nothing but beggers for us. They would be possible future clients to some other similar people - but as this group moderators visualized this group is NOT meant for the same. ==> > Since I have joined the You are the single person whose replies are really meant to annoy the people. <== I am happy that at least my voice annoys the people sleeping in darkness - Please note that my words are MEANT to ann0y - it is designed that way, with a purpose. :=) ==> > For losing the Decency of Language & culture this group has been formed > or this group has been formed to avoid irrelevant things and to concentrate on the more important things. <== As per your culture you can imagine anything - We can't help it. ==> > OR if you don't agree on this topic tell us simply to leave this group and We will leave. <== Aditya ji, whether you want to leave or stay is up to you - the group is more interested in knowledge sharing related to astrology; not your useless controversies. Why you starting projecting your ego and foolishness on Renu ji - with out even a single page knowledge contribution to the group? Which ignorance prompted you to start mud slinging on Srinivas ji? And you start speaking about culture and decency of the group?!! Shut up man! If you have anything relevant to astrology to speak, go on - otherwise enough of this useless communication for me. You can decide what you want. Regards, Sreenadh , MCPL Manager <mcpl_manager wrote:>> Dear Mr Sreenadh> > First of all thanks for communicating me. Now there are two simple questions for you:-> > Can all the Great Astrologers, Palmists & Numereologists have founded the answer of "Why" really . If so then the whole world was on the smooth line of action as because every "Why" has power to be answered with the emininent Authorities. How many people have answered these "Why" correctly.Did U. > > 2ndly Experience , Knowledge, Intutions & Resultant Straight-forwardness of people can never be concerned with "Why" .May be Lot of Past & Present Eminents have left unanswered so many "Why's" in their life. Now I ask You why if Astro-Plamists know "Why" then eleminate all the problems of this world by simply solving this "Why."> > Since I have joined the You are the single person whose replies are really meant to annoy the people. have you ever analysed yourself. Do the straightforward means that you have Right to say your Members & Reader as You have said to one of the reader on his asking certain details about his horoscope:"that You shall kick the ass to beggars" > > In brief I shall request all the members & Readers to maintain perfect Decency in Communication. > > "Even You yourself on getting "that a Good Book on astrology is kept somewhere" you will try your level best to secure and study and gain something from that Book." > > Similarly Common people Finding the astro Group of Astrologers or simply Learning members try to ask their Queries. > > If You don't want to reply or assist them simply ignore or deny . Why you are claming them as Beggars. > > For losing the Decency of Language & culture this group has been formed > > or this group has been formed to avoid irrelevent things and to concentrate on the more important things.> > You must say sorry to all of your readers & members for using such vocablary for the person deserving to know something.> > And please don't try to be over synical or smart on any topic. I respect you to the same level as of Mr srinivasanji but may be your certain mental blockades or achievements you have turned your langauge this way. And in stead of saying something concrete you always say something offway. please be supportive, enumerative, assertive, and in right spirit.> > OR if you don't agree on this topic tell us simply to leave this group and We will leave.But please don't say anything odd to anyone in future.And since my email will irritate you definitely please don't say even anything cheap to me. > > All are Respectful in this world .Even beggars are the creatures of God. And By abusing someone saying them Beggars you are simply abusing the God's Creature who becomes that due to nature's compulsions. > > However pardon me for long reply which you didn't deserve in any way as far as I have understood you. > > Aditya > > > Sreenadh sreesog wrote:> Dear Aditya,> Your experience and whether you are an astrologer or not is not at all relevent here. Actually your words itself clarify that -> ==>> > I have crossed 47 and in last 23 years of my career of Astro > > Palmistry, Numereology I have never find an exact answer of "Why" in> > advance (!!!)> <==> If so what you are doing as an astrologer, palmist, or numerologist or what ever that be!!! > So the point is - What is relevent is your clear understaning and sharing of that knowledge (as much limited amount you have) in the group - which we are yet to see. Hope you see this simple point - and come down the glass castle. > Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , MCPL Manager mcpl_manager@ wrote:> >> > Dear Srinisavanji> > > > At the outset I want to clarify not only to you but all that I get not only surprised but get mesmerised by your Most Logical analyses about Horoscopes and your way of expalanations of various issues in the Horoscopes. I never felt writing just to make unnecessary remarks or stretching the things beyond limits against any write up which you all are making which i really and seriously appreciate. Specially I am more seriously attached with your explanations which are truely very scientific, mind blowing and more or less appreciating.> > > > However One thing I have in contradiction to all the members of and that is:-> > > > " In Astrology there is never a answer of every "whyHow" "where""when." So a deep exhaustive, research oriented Shastra it is where every single movement you are learning something new from the practical incidents andanalysing the people's life which can not be superimposed on the analysis of others or can not be compared with others in one way or other. it simply guide and not determine. It simply teach and not frame.> > > > I have crossed 47 and in last 23 years of my career of Astro Palmistry, Numereology I have never find an exact answer of "Why" in advance, may be Post incident it is correctly analysed "why & when". So we all shall try to eleminate this part of analysing "Why on the established horoscopes" we all shall try to make strong ourselves on Fundamentals, their Extractions, Exceptions, Research etc. and try to utilise our resources in the Human & social welfare.> > > > Calrifying this If "Any One died of Explosion" we all analysed reasons & "Why Post death", Can any one say guranteed that the "other person more or less born on the same day & date , year and place even in the same hospital with same level of horoscope & combination will die of same reasons Of Explosion. " You know also better it's answer . No No one can say it guranteed that the same incident will repeat with that other fellow besides all the same combinations.> > > > So renuji or any one else try to Process , Finish the explored Things and don't go beyond that explorations otherwise you will be simply in the raw Mess and will not derive anything concrete.> > > > However Thanks to Mr srinivasanji for analysing the things beautifully every time. I am conveying special thanks to him.> > > > Aditya (adityadaga@) (mcpl_manager@)> > > > > > > > > > > > sreeram srinivas sreeram64@ wrote:> > Dear MCPL_Manager Saab,> > > > You have valid point in saying that there is nothing spectacular in such> > hororscopes & it is ordinary life like anyother.> > > > Can you share the other horoscopes you mentioned which have similar> > combinations?? for such crowded planet combinations do not happen> > frequently i.e. 30-35 yrs gap. Is it possible that the hororscopes you> > are referring are all of 1962 born ? Public or Offline.> > > > I think in May 2003 or 2004, there was combination, where 3-4 planets> > planets were exalted at a time....for somebody came up with a child born> > dead or born then dead, hororscope, wanting to know how why ??> > > > The issue is how to analyse such crowded houses, for there are> > debilitation, exaltation, moolatrikona all one place, similarly the> > yogas...., it is immaterial that whether the native is rich or poor or> > average. We are trying to astro_probe why??> > > > Example: We have or had our Mr.Prafullaji, who had real "astro_hang" of> > wanting to know why he had heart attack and is continuing his quest> > inspite of many people giving analysis - may be he is yet to get> > bulls-eye explanation!!> > > > Yes people are obssessed & excited with planetary placement in> > respective horoscopes...for they seem to run to nearest panditji,> > immediately on seeing a exalted or debilitated or ...etc..> > > > Knowing Renuji, she has the same child inquisitiveness to know-why?> > attitude, not so much carried away either by status or planets in> > respective individual charts. Her interest in astrology has been around> > 5-6 yrs...., so having known with social circle, she started collecting> > birthdata, then noticing the astro_signatures...... It is NOT like Mr.> > Bilal is designated heir apparent to Pak's PPP, that the girls want to> > fell in love with him seeking his hororscope..... In this case, she> > already knew the person for years, ......astro_interest came much much> > later.....So she has NO feeling of Awe !! as observed by you.> > > > I was once cornered by a elderly Kashmiri Lady, who is Head of a large> > Japanese Corporation, closely known to me, who gave HER mother's> > hororscope + One more hororscope, with few minutes difference = on> > getting the analysis, she later revealed that the second hororscope was> > of a son{Prince} born to King of Kashmir that times/those days. {I was> > those days looking for someone who knew how to read "sharada language"> > for I had some original horoscope analysis written in that language> > using lesser known techniques..so wanting to know from it...}.> > > > Concluding, it is all about knowing why ?? attitude, the difference of> > good planetary placement and average life, and very average planets,> > high lifes !! Example: Our Rahul Gandhi & Pak's Bilal Zardari -son of> > Benazir Bhutto ?? Surely this people planets should be on par with> > those on average roadside hawkers !! yet so much difference !!!> > > > So it is all about knowing right astro_signatures or patterns.......so> > that you are NOT lost where to start & what to say when you see such> > planetary placements.> > > > Note: Do not count first or second,keep posting.....good to see Managers are taking interests.......> > > > With regards,> > > > Sreeram_Srinivas> > > > > > , MCPL Manager> > wrote:> > >> > > RENUJI & ALL OTHERS OF ASTRO GROUPS> > >> > > I am writing Ist time over this Topic by compulsion. I felt strongly> > what you all written about this lady either by intitution or previous> > knowledge about the 8 Planets in a single house that is Lagna is all> > where you all are writing the very common things. How the only one> > consideration that is 8 Planets are so become an issue. In my last 22> > Years of career I have seen around 100 horoscopes of either 8 Planets or> > 7 planets in a single house but I never felt such a issue as because all> > were/are leading a commonly average or good life. Once a person> > judgement depending upon Diffrent Varga Kundlis and various Other> > considerations what is here to be so sensitive of only one issue that is> > 8 planets in Lagna.> > >> > > In my analysis besides all other things common I have never find> > anything unusual (I mean any thing extraordinary which is very diffrent> > from the average Horoscopes) in such horoscopes. Except One thing that> > is Mental Blockade of Imagination or Creativity beyond a limit. It> > psychologically binds a person in a particular perimeter throughout> > her/his life Basically that is also one of the reason of their best> > domestic & family life because a family life need a complete attention & > > a short perimeter for being proved to be a happy Married life. But it is> > not too good for progress.It has limits of Mental & Physical progress> > sometimes & for someone little while for someone more.> > >> > > So I think Accumulation of Planets shall not be so highlighted in the> > manner you all are doing but shall be studied only as one of the factor> > of a person's overall Growth.> > >> > > Aditya(adityadaga@)(mcpl_manager@)> > >> > > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}> > w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}> > st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } Dear Renu,> > >> > > Thank you for your reply, its much appreciated.> > >> > > I have one comment on the quote below> > >> > > "If she is married, she will truly love her husband very much.> > They will get along.> > > Yes, they get along. Married for 26 years to Pisces lagna native. If> > love is looking after her husband well, caring for him, preparing his> > favourite food, attending to his needs and also to the needs of his> > family especially when they are in trouble...yes...she truly loves him.> > If love is being truly faithful to the husband...????"> > >> > > Ash : Yes, this is what I meant. There will be no divorce if she is> > married. Now having extramarital affairs is different thing, but she> > will not leave her husband.> > >> > > Ve is with Ma and with Sa and with Ju as well and Ve to sun distance> > is less than 3deg20, all these planets are SD to sun who is 12th from> > 7th and in navamsa of Sun who is 12th lord from 7th house. Here I am not> > referring to Sun as lord of 6th house because Sun and Moon do not take> > on property of 6th lord, but yes as lord of 12th from 7th they will> > reduce the happiness of 7th house matters.> > >> > > So, all these things I had see, but also the fact that lagna and 9th> > lords are in 5:9 in Navamsa and that too from i.e .Ju and Ma lords of> > Rasi's 1st and 9th lords are in 5:9 in Navamsa and that too from> > Lagna, Sun and Moon.> > >> > > Also lagna and 7th lords are all in same house and in 5:9 in navamsa> > from Mo, Su, Ve, Ma and from lagna they are in 1:1 or same house or> > Samdharmi.> > >> > > If possible, I would like one more information before I hit my drawing> > board.> > >> > > Did this lady have any miscarriages or any abortions?> > >> > >> > > Quote> > >> > > "She also might be a difficult person to get along with.> > > No dear, I cannot agree to this. She is very social and interact very> > will with anyone. Hope this helps. blessings – Renu"> > > By this, what I meant was her volatile nature and her lagna having 29> > points is what I meant and also 6 of the d chart lagnas being that of> > Jupiter.> > >> > > Thanks for the feed back.> > >> > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > On Behalf Of renunw> > > Friday January 4, 2008 10:30 PM> > > > > > Re: 8 planets in a house! - attn> > Renu> > >> > >> > > Dear Ash,> > > I would like to study this chart. This chart is very interesting.> > > Indeed...as interesting as the lady herself..one could say.> > > This chart has powerful blessings of father and Guru. The SAV points> > in 9th house are very high, so evidently 5th, 12th, 7th, 10th, 11th and> > 2nd house the power has gone down considerably.> > > You are right. She was her father's pet. They loved each other a lot.> > Father died of cancer a few years ago and she looked after him with lot> > of care and concern.> > >> > > This means that when planets travel from 7th to 9th house in Transit> > her daily points would jump up considerably, and moon travels fast, so> > she might have huge up's and down swings in her day to day life.> > > True. She is a bit volatile.> > > What is the status of her children, does she have any? If she has any,> > where there any complication and c-section delivery?> > > She had very easy deliveries. She has two sons born in 1986 December> > and 1992 December. Both are Saggitarius lagna.> > > If she is married, she will truly love her husband very much. They> > will get along.> > > Yes, they get along. Married for 26 years to Pisces lagna native. If> > love is looking after her husband well, caring for him, preparing his> > favourite food, attending to his needs and also to the needs of his> > family especially when they are in trouble...yes...she truly loves him.> > If love is being truly faithful to the husband...????> > > Her career is related to sun, cap and 11th house, Royal, Government or> > even in some religious institution or something like that.> > > No, she is not employed. She is a housewife.> > > She would have Average intelligence.> > > I would agree with you. She is intelligent and shrewd.> > > Her life will go smooth, despite so many problems that might come her> > way, that will be due to powerful blessings.> > > Exactly. Absolutely correct.> > > She also might be a difficult person to get along with.> > > No dear, I cannot agree to this. She is very social and interact very> > will with anyone. Hope this helps. blessings - Renu> > >> > >> > > Cheers !!!> > > , "Ash's Corner@" kas@> > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Renu,> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > I would like to study this chart. This chart is very interesting.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > This chart has powerful blessings of father and Guru. The SAV points> > in 9th> > > > house are very high, so evidently 5th, 12th, 7th, 10th, 11th and 2nd> > house> > > > the power has gone down considerably.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > This means that when planets travel from 7th to 9th house in Transit> > her> > > > daily points would jump up considerably, and moon travels fast, so> > she might> > > > have huge up's and down swings in her day to day life.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > What is the status of her children, does she have any? If she has> > any,> > > > where there any complication and c-section delivery?> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > If she is married, she will truly love her husband very much. They> > will get> > > > along.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Her career is related to sun, cap and 11th house, Royal, Government> > or even> > > > in some religious institution or something like that.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > She would have Average intelligence.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Her life will go smooth, despite so many problems that might come> > her way,> > > > that will be due to powerful blessings.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > She also might be a difficult person to get along with.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > The difference between 9th and 10th house SAV points is a lot.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Renu, I am interested in the feedback, when you decide to disclose.> > Can you> > > > please comment on my points, if u have some spare time. That will> > help me> > > > in my studies.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Cheers !!!> > > >> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > >> > > > _____> > > >> > > > > > > > On Behalf Of> > renunw> > > > Thursday January 3, 2008 2:14 PM> > > > > > > > 8 planets in a house!> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Sreeram ji,> > > >> > > > "Note: It has been over 25yrs that I willingly went and saw a movie> > in> > > > any cinema or a theatre"> > > >> > > > But your inspiring mails lack no less creativity than that in a> > movie!> > > >> > > > Now to all:........the following is the chart of a lady with 8> > planets in a> > > > house!> > > >> > > > Febraury 5, 1962 @ 9.40 AM in Kandy, Sri Lanka.> > > >> > > > The lady is an interesting character, I would keep the rest for> > anyone> > > > interested to find out.> > > >> > > > blessings> > > >> > > > Renu> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "sreeram srinivas"> > > > sreeram64@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Chiranjiv,> > > > >> > > > > When there are more planets in a house, then Nabhas Yoga> > principles> > > > > apply. The planets in crowded 8H, aspect the 2H representing the> > voice,> > > > > throat...etc.. Malefic influence indicates harsh or "sharp" voice> > {> > > > > Sharp = Kadak = bitter= voice} {we all in North India like Kadak> > Tea}.> > > > > Unlike other yogas, Nabhas Yogas are dasha independent.> > > > >> > > > > It is incorrect to conclude "higher density of planets" in a House> > gives> > > > > magnetic voice. Such planetary combination gives rise to inner> > > > > strength {depending upon crowded "place" - Mumbai Local Trains or> > Delhi> > > > > Metro} and the no. of other yogas increase. That many yogas a> > person> > > > > has that much amount of respect as a person.....in the first> > > > > instance....whether you are introduced to him or not.....there is> > a> > > > > magnetic appeal in his poise.> > > > >> > > > > In all such cases, one has to see the "amsa" of the planets for> > knowing> > > > > the true positions, else there will be a fair chance of failure !!> > > > > Shortly, one can say on a conservative basis, financially ok,> > obstacles> > > > > galore, interest in occult or mysticism, greater realization of> > life,> > > > > health effected, changes in career or profession on positive side,> > > > > ability of native to stay competitive irrespective of reversals in> > life,> > > > > strong wealth inheritance from father, will take risk to say that> > the> > > > > native has multiple sources of income - are all foregone> > conclusions.> > > > >> > > > > Would like to know in brief of the native's father career or> > fortune> > > > > GRAPH & hardwork. The native mother & father had a good mutual> > respect> > > > > between them, with a very supportive mother. The mother of the> > native> > > > > must be more beautiful than the father who may be of a darker> > shade.> > > > > Tell me about paternal uncles of the native { must be elder to> > native's> > > > > father}, who may be educated and either working in govt. or> > relation or> > > > > co-ordination with govt. office.> > > > >> > > > > Note: It has been over 25yrs that I willingly went and saw a movie> > in> > > > > any cinema or a theatre.> > > > >> > > > > Sorry, I am to disappoint you in giving any filmi analogy in this> > > > > response.> > > > >> > > > > Kindly refer my previous emails where I gave two horoscopes of a> > couple> > > > > who have similar high density {nano technology} horoscopes.> > > > >> > > > > Wth regards,> > > > >> > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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