Quize - 2nd lord in Lagna (Answer - A secret disclosed!)

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Dear Vinita ji,

It is good to see your hard efforts to come up with a

tangible solution... :=) At the end you got it very close. Now let us

see what it is - Yes, the result derived IS based on Natural Zodiac.

Actually there are 2 ways to use the Natural Zodiac/Horoscope in such

house base result derivation. I will explain both of them.

1. Aries as Lagna

----------------------

As we all know Aries is the Lagna (1st Sign/House) in the Natural

Horoscope(NH). Thus considering NH -

2nd lord in lagna is equivalent to Taurus lord (the 2nd

house lord) Venus in Aries lagna. If Aries is lagna and Venus is placed

in lagna, what are the results you can derive? Of course you may readily note

that -

* The significator of Sperm and 7th house, the watery planet Venus

gets placed in a fiery/dry sign Aries - evaporating much of its energy.

* 5th house from Aries is Leo, again a fiery sign, which is

famous as an "Alpa putra Rasi" (the sign giving less number of

sons, or a sign which may not give son at all at times!)

Think about this placement and you will see that a better understanding

about 2nd lord in Lagna is coming out. But this is a well known technique among

practical astrologers; even though much useful - not much of a secret; but the

next technique is defenitly a secret not known to many.

2. Considering the relevant house from Aries as Lagna

-

Actually the above heading does not describe the

technique clearly. It would be better to state - Considering the relevant house

from Aries as Lagna but still placing the lagna of the horoscope in Aries

itself (in the case of lagna based derivation). May be my

language is not good - and the example will serve better to understand

the technique. Here the equivalence is -

"2nd lord in Lagna is equivalent to 2nd lord mercury for Taurus

lagna going to Aries"

So now the lagna is Taurus and 2nd and 5th lord Mercury when to

Aries 12th house from Lagna. Note the following points -

* Lagna lord Venus gets debilitated in 5th!

* Virgo is well popular as an "Alpa putra rasi" (the

sign giving less number of sons, or a sign which may not give son at all at

times!)

* Virgo being a duel sign can indicate 2 children (provided other

conditions favors) - but could be possibly girls.

* 2nd and 5th lord going to 12th from lagna well

explains why native is NOT helpful enough towards his own family, and is in

want of Son (or children).

It is this second logic and technique is the

special/secret technique that is used in deriving this result. Not that this

technique is applicable for every house lord going to any other house - provided

its use and secret is properly understood.

Hope this helps.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

, "vinita kumar" <shankar_mamta wrote:>> why want of children is more applicable to want of "son" is because > Singh / Leo is the 5th house of the natural zodiac ruled by Sun > signifying male child???....pun not intended.> > , "vinita kumar" > shankar_mamta@ wrote:> >> > father of the child (5th) is 9th from 5th which is 1st or lagna > > (native himself). > > > > 5th from lagna is 4th from 2nd...and lord of 2nd itself is 12th.> > > > So some kind of a loss of 4th from 2nd too???> > > > ok....no more tries...i'ver tried enough! > > > > 12th signifies loss...whreas 5th is > > , "vinita kumar" > > <shankar_mamta@> wrote:> > >> > > also father is 8th from 2nd...(9th from lagna)...and lord of 2nd > > is > > > 12th from 2nd.> > > > > > 8th from second is "in debt" ...in want of?> > > > > > 9th from lagna is 5th from 5th just as 5th from lagna is 9th > from > > > 9th...> > > > > > i dunno where i am going...cannot get the right connection...!> > > > > > > > > , "vinita kumar" > > > <shankar_mamta@> wrote:> > > >> > > > After looking at these clues, i am making one more try!> > > > > > > > 5th is 4th from 2nd. 4th house is the house of Sukha > > > > also?...fulfillment of desires (not so sure)!?> > > > > > > > now if the lord of 2nd is 12th from 2nd, does it not signify > it > > is > > > > unfulfilled sukha (4th) of children (5th from lagna but 4th > from > > > > 2nd)?...> > > > > > > > wild, wild try!!!> > > > > > > > > > > > , "Sreenadh" > > > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Mehta ji,> > > > > > > > > > Note quite there.. :=) Try once more! > > > > > > > > > > >Anything connected with Lagna cannot be unauspiscious> > > > > > > > > > No! The sages never thought so! (This is the result provided > > by > > > > Parasara> > > > > and Lomasa!) There methodologies are different and in this > > case > > > we > > > > will> > > > > soon see what it is - in this case.> > > > > > > > > > Of course when something is related to the lagna, there > are > > > > several> > > > > good things also can be predicted - of course this is true > in > > > this > > > > case> > > > > as well. So I appreciate your intuition which says that > > there > > > > should> > > > > be something good there when something is connected to > > lagna. > > > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > <mehta ji wrote.....>> > > > > Re: Quize of the Day - 2nd lord in Lagna> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because it is 12th from its own house which signifies family > ( > > > > kutumb).> > > > > > > > > > As for the children part: A WILD TRY : because it (2nd) is > > 10th > > > > from the> > > > > 5th house signifying the father for the children. Does it > > point > > > > towards> > > > > fertility problems?> > > > > > > > > > My 4 annas : anything connected with Lagna cannot be > > > unauspiscious.> > > > > > > > > > Waiting for the answer.> > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards.> > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 4/1/08, Sreenadh <sreesog@> > > > > <sreesog@> > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh <sreesog@ <sreesog@> >> > > > > Quize of the Day - 2nd > > lord > > > in > > > > Lagna> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, 4 January, 2008, 1:48 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > I have question to all - What is the result to be > > predicted > > > if > > > > 2nd> > > > > house lord is in Lagna.> > > > > > > > > > This question is specially aimed at Renu ji, Kiran ji, > > > Vinita > > > > ji etc> > > > > - just intending to break there benefic/malefic theory with > an > > > > example.> > > > > :=)> > > > > I will refine the question going a bit further - If > 2nd > > > lord > > > > is in> > > > > Lagna the native "will be in want of children (son/daughter) > > and > > > > not> > > > > much helpful to his own family - Why?!!> > > > > > > > > > Love and Regards,> > > > > Sreenadh> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Sreenadh ji,

Thanks so much for the explanation. I highly appreciate your dedication in teaching and generosity in sharing numerous astrological techniques .

1st part is OK. But...

". Here the equivalence is - "2nd lord in Lagna is equivalent to 2nd lord mercury for Taurus lagna going to Aries" So now the lagna is Taurus and 2nd and 5th lord Mercury when to Aries 12th house from Lagna. Note the following points - * Lagna lord Venus gets debilitated in 5th! * Virgo is well popular as an "Alpa putra rasi" (the sign giving less number of sons, or a sign which may not give son at all at times!) * Virgo being a duel sign can indicate 2 children (provided other conditions favors) - but could be possibly girls. * 2nd and 5th lord going to 12th from lagna well explains why native is NOT helpful enough towards his own family, and is in want of Son ......

I'm sorry...I don't feel much comfortable here. If you don't mind kindly explain this taking another laga as well.... so that it will bring some sense to my poor intellect. For example if Cancer is the lagna concerned, the 2HL is Sun. Are we to go on with theoretically placing Sun in Aries and analyse accordingly? Then 2HL from Cancer will be placed in 10H from it......?????

blessings

Renu

, "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> > Dear Vinita ji,> It is good to see your hard efforts to come up with a tangible> solution... :=) At the end you got it very close. Now let us see> what it is - Yes, the result derived IS based on Natural Zodiac. > Actually there are 2 ways to use the Natural Zodiac/Horoscope in such> house base result derivation. I will explain both of them.> 1. Aries as Lagna> ----------------------> As we all know Aries is the Lagna (1st Sign/House) in the Natural> Horoscope(NH). Thus considering NH -> 2nd lord in lagna is equivalent to Taurus lord (the 2nd house lord)> Venus in Aries lagna. If Aries is lagna and Venus is placed in lagna,> what are the results you can derive? Of course you may readily note that> -> * The significator of Sperm and 7th house, the watery planet Venus> gets placed in a fiery/dry sign Aries - evaporating much of its energy.> * 5th house from Aries is Leo, again a fiery sign, which is famous> as an "Alpa putra Rasi" (the sign giving less number of sons, or a sign> which may not give son at all at times!)> Think about this placement and you will see that a better> understanding about 2nd lord in Lagna is coming out. But this is a well> known technique among practical astrologers; even though much useful -> not much of a secret; but the next technique is defenitly a secret not> known to many. > 2. Considering the relevant house from Aries as Lagna> -> Actually the above heading does not describe the technique> clearly. It would be better to state - Considering the relevant house> from Aries as Lagna but still placing the lagna of the horoscope in> Aries itself (in the case of lagna based derivation). May be my> language is not good - and the example will serve better to understand> the technique. Here the equivalence is -> "2nd lord in Lagna is equivalent to 2nd lord mercury for Taurus lagna> going to Aries"> So now the lagna is Taurus and 2nd and 5th lord Mercury when to Aries> 12th house from Lagna. Note the following points -> * Lagna lord Venus gets debilitated in 5th!> * Virgo is well popular as an "Alpa putra rasi" (the sign giving less> number of sons, or a sign which may not give son at all at times!)> * Virgo being a duel sign can indicate 2 children (provided other> conditions favors) - but could be possibly girls.> * 2nd and 5th lord going to 12th from lagna well explains why> native is NOT helpful enough towards his own family, and is in want of> Son (or children).> > It is this second logic and technique is the special/secret> technique that is used in deriving this result. Not that this technique> is applicable for every house lord going to any other house - provided> its use and secret is properly understood.> Hope this helps. > Love and regards,> Sreenadh> , "vinita kumar"> shankar_mamta@ wrote:> >> > why want of children is more applicable to want of "son" is because> > Singh / Leo is the 5th house of the natural zodiac ruled by Sun> > signifying male child???....pun not intended.> >> > , "vinita kumar"> > shankar_mamta@ wrote:> > >> > > father of the child (5th) is 9th from 5th which is 1st or lagna> > > (native himself).> > >> > > 5th from lagna is 4th from 2nd...and lord of 2nd itself is 12th.> > >> > > So some kind of a loss of 4th from 2nd too???> > >> > > ok....no more tries...i'ver tried enough!> > >> > > 12th signifies loss...whreas 5th is> > > , "vinita kumar"> > > <shankar_mamta@> wrote:> > > >> > > > also father is 8th from 2nd...(9th from lagna)...and lord of 2nd> > > is> > > > 12th from 2nd.> > > >> > > > 8th from second is "in debt" ...in want of?> > > >> > > > 9th from lagna is 5th from 5th just as 5th from lagna is 9th> > from> > > > 9th...> > > >> > > > i dunno where i am going...cannot get the right connection...!> > > >> > > >> > > > , "vinita kumar"> > > > <shankar_mamta@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > After looking at these clues, i am making one more try!> > > > >> > > > > 5th is 4th from 2nd. 4th house is the house of Sukha> > > > > also?...fulfillment of desires (not so sure)!?> > > > >> > > > > now if the lord of 2nd is 12th from 2nd, does it not signify> > it> > > is> > > > > unfulfilled sukha (4th) of children (5th from lagna but 4th> > from> > > > > 2nd)?...> > > > >> > > > > wild, wild try!!!> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , "Sreenadh"> > > > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Mehta ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > Note quite there.. :=) Try once more! > > > > > >> > > > > > >Anything connected with Lagna cannot be unauspiscious> > > > > >> > > > > > No! The sages never thought so! (This is the result provided> > > by> > > > > Parasara> > > > > > and Lomasa!) There methodologies are different and in this> > > case> > > > we> > > > > will> > > > > > soon see what it is - in this case.> > > > > >> > > > > > Of course when something is related to the lagna, there> > are> > > > > several> > > > > > good things also can be predicted - of course this is true> > in> > > > this> > > > > case> > > > > > as well. So I appreciate your intuition which says that> > > there> > > > > should> > > > > > be something good there when something is connected to> > > lagna. > > > > > >> > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > <mehta ji wrote.....>> > > > > > Re: Quize of the Day - 2nd lord in Lagna> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Because it is 12th from its own house which signifies family> > (> > > > > kutumb).> > > > > >> > > > > > As for the children part: A WILD TRY : because it (2nd) is> > > 10th> > > > > from the> > > > > > 5th house signifying the father for the children. Does it> > > point> > > > > towards> > > > > > fertility problems?> > > > > >> > > > > > My 4 annas : anything connected with Lagna cannot be> > > > unauspiscious.> > > > > >> > > > > > Waiting for the answer.> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks & Regards.> > > > > >> > > > > > --- On Fri, 4/1/08, Sreenadh <sreesog@> > > > > > <sreesog@> > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Sreenadh <sreesog@ <sreesog@> >> > > > > > Quize of the Day - 2nd> > > lord> > > > in> > > > > Lagna> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, 4 January, 2008, 1:48 PM> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > I have question to all - What is the result to be> > > predicted> > > > if> > > > > 2nd> > > > > > house lord is in Lagna.> > > > > >> > > > > > This question is specially aimed at Renu ji, Kiran ji,> > > > Vinita> > > > > ji etc> > > > > > - just intending to break there benefic/malefic theory with> > an> > > > > example.> > > > > > :=)> > > > > > I will refine the question going a bit further - If> > 2nd> > > > lord> > > > > is in> > > > > > Lagna the native "will be in want of children (son/daughter)> > > and> > > > > not> > > > > > much helpful to his own family - Why?!!> > > > > >> > > > > > Love and Regards,> > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Namaste Sreenadh

 

Would you mind going through your 2nd

method with another example other than Taurus, Gem, Sco or Sag as Asc to

explain “your” logic further?

 

Eg

Cancer as Asc è Sun as 2nd

Lord and Mars as 5th & 10th Lord

Leo as Asc è Mer as 2nd &

11th Lord and Jup as 5th & 8th Lord

Virgo as Asc è Ven as 2nd

& 9th Lord and Sani as 5th & 6th Lord

Lib as Asc è Mars as 2nd &

7th Lord and Sani as 4th & 5th Lord

Cap as Asc è Sani as 1st &

2nd Lord and Ven as 5th & 10th Lord

Aqu as Asc è Jup as 2nd &

11th Lord and Mer as 5th & 8th Lord

Pis as Asc è Mars as 2nd &

9th Lord and Moon as 5th Lord

 

Many thanks …..

 

Jai Sita Ram

 

Ram

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Sreenadh

05 January 2008 17:31

 

Subject:

Re: Quize - 2nd lord in Lagna (Answer - A secret

disclosed!)

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Vinita ji,

It is good to see your hard efforts to come up with a

tangible solution... :=) At the end you got it very close. Now let us

see what it is - Yes, the result derived IS based on Natural Zodiac.

Actually there are 2 ways to use the Natural Zodiac/Horoscope in such

house base result derivation. I will explain both of them.

1. Aries as Lagna

----------------------

As we all know Aries is the Lagna (1st Sign/House) in the Natural

Horoscope(NH). Thus considering NH -

2nd lord in lagna is equivalent to Taurus lord (the 2nd

house lord) Venus in Aries lagna. If Aries is lagna and Venus is placed

in lagna, what are the results you can derive? Of course you may readily note

that -

* The significator of Sperm and 7th house, the watery planet Venus

gets placed in a fiery/dry sign Aries - evaporating much of its energy.

* 5th house from Aries is Leo, again a fiery sign, which is

famous as an " Alpa putra Rasi " (the sign giving less number of

sons, or a sign which may not give son at all at times!)

Think about this placement and you will see that a better understanding

about 2nd lord in Lagna is coming out. But this is a well known technique among

practical astrologers; even though much useful - not much of a secret; but the

next technique is defenitly a secret not known to many.

2. Considering the relevant house from Aries as Lagna

-

Actually the above heading does not describe the

technique clearly. It would be better to state - Considering the relevant house

from Aries as Lagna but still placing the lagna of the horoscope in Aries

itself (in the case of lagna based derivation). May be my

language is not good - and the example will serve better to understand

the technique. Here the equivalence is -

" 2nd lord in Lagna is equivalent to 2nd lord mercury for

Taurus lagna going to Aries "

So now the lagna is Taurus and 2nd and 5th lord Mercury when to

Aries 12th house from Lagna. Note the following points -

* Lagna lord Venus gets debilitated in 5th!

* Virgo is well popular as an " Alpa putra rasi " (the

sign giving less number of sons, or a sign which may not give son at all at

times!)

* Virgo being a duel sign can indicate 2 children (provided other

conditions favors) - but could be possibly girls.

* 2nd and 5th lord going to 12th from lagna well

explains why native is NOT helpful enough towards his own family, and is in

want of Son (or children).

It is this second logic and technique is the

special/secret technique that is used in deriving this result. Not that this

technique is applicable for every house lord going to any other house -

provided its use and secret is properly understood.

Hope this helps.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

> > > > > < sreesog@> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sreenadh <sreesog@ <sreesog@>

>

> > > > > Quize of the

Day - 2nd lord in Lagna

> > > > >

> > > > > <

> > > > > Friday, 4 January, 2008, 1:48 PM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear all,

> > > > > I have question to all - What is the result to be predicted

if 2nd

> > > > > house lord is in Lagna.

> > > > >

> > > > > This question i s specially aimed at Renu ji,

Kiran ji, Vinita ji etc

> > > > > - just intending to break there benefic/malefic theory

with an example.

> > > > > :=)

> > > > > I will refine the question going a bit further - If 2nd

lord is in

> > > > > Lagna the native " will be in want of children

(son/daughter) and not

> > > > > much helpful to his own family - Why?!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Love and Regards,

> > > > > Sreenadh

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Renu ji,

The 2nd lord going to the 12th house from it is

equivalent to - The 2nd house lord from Tarus (i.e. Mercury) going to

12th house from it (in to Aries).

Similarly -

3rd HL coming to Lagna (to 11th from 3rd) is

equivalent to - 3rd house lord from Gemini lagna (3rd House in

NH) going to 11th from it (i.e. in to Aries)

4th HL coming to Lagna(to 10th from 3rd) is

equivalent to - 4th house lord from Cancr lagna (4th House in NH) going

to 10th from it (i.e. in to Aries).

And so on - Think of it. Like Bhavat Bhavam, it is applicable

everywhere - to derive the results for House lords going to other

houses.

Hope this helps.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

, "renunw" <renunw wrote:

 

Re: Quize - 2nd lord in Lagna (Answer - A secret disclosed!)

 

Dear Sreenadh ji,

Thanks so much for the explanation. I highly appreciate your

dedication in teaching and generosity in sharing numerous astrological

techniques .

1st part is OK. But...

". Here the equivalence is - "2nd lord in Lagna is equivalent to 2nd lord mercury for Taurus lagna going to Aries"

So now the lagna is Taurus and 2nd and 5th lord Mercury when to Aries

12th house from Lagna. Note the following points - * Lagna lord Venus gets debilitated in 5th!

* Virgo is well popular as an "Alpa putra rasi" (the sign giving less

number of sons, or a sign which may not give son at all at times!)

* Virgo being a duel sign can indicate 2 children (provided other

conditions favors) - but could be possibly girls.

* 2nd and 5th lord going to 12th from lagna well explains why native

is NOT helpful enough towards his own family, and is in want of Son

.......

I'm sorry...I don't feel

much comfortable here. If you don't mind kindly explain this taking

another laga as well.... so that it will bring some sense to my poor

intellect. For example if Cancer is the lagna concerned, the 2HL is

Sun. Are we to go on with theoretically placing Sun in Aries and

analyse accordingly? Then 2HL from Cancer will be placed in 10H from

it......?????

blessings

Renu

> > , "Sreenadh"> sreesog@ wrote:> >> >> > Dear Vinita ji,> > It is good to see your hard efforts to come up with a tangible> > solution... :=) At the end you got it very close. Now let us see> > what it is - Yes, the result derived IS based on Natural Zodiac. > > Actually there are 2 ways to use the Natural Zodiac/Horoscope in such> > house base result derivation. I will explain both of them.> > 1. Aries as Lagna> > ----------------------> > As we all know Aries is the Lagna (1st Sign/House) in the Natural> > Horoscope(NH). Thus considering NH -> > 2nd lord in lagna is equivalent to Taurus lord (the 2nd house lord)> > Venus in Aries lagna. If Aries is lagna and Venus is placed in lagna,> > what are the results you can derive? Of course you may readily note> that> > -> > * The significator of Sperm and 7th house, the watery planet Venus> > gets placed in a fiery/dry sign Aries - evaporating much of its> energy.> > * 5th house from Aries is Leo, again a fiery sign, which is famous> > as an "Alpa putra Rasi" (the sign giving less number of sons, or a> sign> > which may not give son at all at times!)> > Think about this placement and you will see that a better> > understanding about 2nd lord in Lagna is coming out. But this is a> well> > known technique among practical astrologers; even though much useful -> > not much of a secret; but the next technique is defenitly a secret not> > known to many. > > 2. Considering the relevant house from Aries as Lagna> > -> > Actually the above heading does not describe the technique> > clearly. It would be better to state - Considering the relevant house> > from Aries as Lagna but still placing the lagna of the horoscope in> > Aries itself (in the case of lagna based derivation). May be my> > language is not good - and the example will serve better to understand> > the technique. Here the equivalence is -> > "2nd lord in Lagna is equivalent to 2nd lord mercury for Taurus lagna> > going to Aries"> > So now the lagna is Taurus and 2nd and 5th lord Mercury when to Aries> > 12th house from Lagna. Note the following points -> > * Lagna lord Venus gets debilitated in 5th!> > * Virgo is well popular as an "Alpa putra rasi" (the sign giving less> > number of sons, or a sign which may not give son at all at times!)> > * Virgo being a duel sign can indicate 2 children (provided other> > conditions favors) - but could be possibly girls.> > * 2nd and 5th lord going to 12th from lagna well explains why> > native is NOT helpful enough towards his own family, and is in want of> > Son (or children).> >> > It is this second logic and technique is the special/secret> > technique that is used in deriving this result. Not that this> technique> > is applicable for every house lord going to any other house - provided> > its use and secret is properly understood.> > Hope this helps. > > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > , "vinita kumar"> > shankar_mamta@ wrote:> > >> > > why want of children is more applicable to want of "son" is because> > > Singh / Leo is the 5th house of the natural zodiac ruled by Sun> > > signifying male child???....pun not intended.> > >> > > , "vinita kumar"> > > shankar_mamta@ wrote:> > > >> > > > father of the child (5th) is 9th from 5th which is 1st or lagna> > > > (native himself).> > > >> > > > 5th from lagna is 4th from 2nd...and lord of 2nd itself is 12th.> > > >> > > > So some kind of a loss of 4th from 2nd too???> > > >> > > > ok....no more tries...i'ver tried enough!> > > >> > > > 12th signifies loss...whreas 5th is> > > > , "vinita kumar"> > > > <shankar_mamta@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > also father is 8th from 2nd...(9th from lagna)...and lord of 2nd> > > > is> > > > > 12th from 2nd.> > > > >> > > > > 8th from second is "in debt" ...in want of?> > > > >> > > > > 9th from lagna is 5th from 5th just as 5th from lagna is 9th> > > from> > > > > 9th...> > > > >> > > > > i dunno where i am going...cannot get the right connection...!> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , "vinita kumar"> > > > > <shankar_mamta@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > After looking at these clues, i am making one more try!> > > > > >> > > > > > 5th is 4th from 2nd. 4th house is the house of Sukha> > > > > > also?...fulfillment of desires (not so sure)!?> > > > > >> > > > > > now if the lord of 2nd is 12th from 2nd, does it not signify> > > it> > > > is> > > > > > unfulfilled sukha (4th) of children (5th from lagna but 4th> > > from> > > > > > 2nd)?...> > > > > >> > > > > > wild, wild try!!!> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > , "Sreenadh"> > > > > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Mehta ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Note quite there.. :=) Try once more! > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >Anything connected with Lagna cannot be unauspiscious> > > > > > >> > > > > > > No! The sages never thought so! (This is the result provided> > > > by> > > > > > Parasara> > > > > > > and Lomasa!) There methodologies are different and in this> > > > case> > > > > we> > > > > > will> > > > > > > soon see what it is - in this case.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Of course when something is related to the lagna, there> > > are> > > > > > several> > > > > > > good things also can be predicted - of course this is true> > > in> > > > > this> > > > > > case> > > > > > > as well. So I appreciate your intuition which says that> > > > there> > > > > > should> > > > > > > be something good there when something is connected to> > > > lagna. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > <mehta ji wrote.....>> > > > > > > Re: Quize of the Day - 2nd lord in Lagna> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Because it is 12th from its own house which signifies family> > > (> > > > > > kutumb).> > > > > > >> > > > > > > As for the children part: A WILD TRY : because it (2nd) is> > > > 10th> > > > > > from the> > > > > > > 5th house signifying the father for the children. Does it> > > > point> > > > > > towards> > > > > > > fertility problems?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > My 4 annas : anything connected with Lagna cannot be> > > > > unauspiscious.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Waiting for the answer.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks & Regards.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- On Fri, 4/1/08, Sreenadh <sreesog@> > > > > > > <sreesog@> > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Sreenadh <sreesog@ <sreesog@> >> > > > > > > Quize of the Day - 2nd> > > > lord> > > > > in> > > > > > Lagna> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, 4 January, 2008, 1:48 PM> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > > I have question to all - What is the result to be> > > > predicted> > > > > if> > > > > > 2nd> > > > > > > house lord is in Lagna.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > This question is specially aimed at Renu ji, Kiran ji,> > > > > Vinita> > > > > > ji etc> > > > > > > - just intending to break there benefic/malefic theory with> > > an> > > > > > example.> > > > > > > :=)> > > > > > > I will refine the question going a bit further - If> > > 2nd> > > > > lord> > > > > > is in> > > > > > > Lagna the native "will be in want of children (son/daughter)> > > > and> > > > > > not> > > > > > > much helpful to his own family - Why?!!> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Love and Regards,> > > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Jaswal ji,

An article is posted about 2nd lord in lagna. Read it.

Regards,

Sreenadh

, "Ram Jaswal" <rkjaswal wrote:

 

RE: Re: Quize - 2nd lord in Lagna (Answer - A secret disclosed!)

 

Namaste Sreenadh

 

Would you mind going through your 2nd

method with another example other than Taurus, Gem, Sco or Sag as Asc to

explain "your" logic further?

 

Eg

Cancer as Asc è Sun as 2nd

Lord and Mars as 5th & 10th Lord

Leo as Asc è Mer as 2nd &

11th Lord and Jup as 5th & 8th Lord

Virgo as Asc è Ven as 2nd

& 9th Lord and Sani as 5th & 6th Lord

Lib as Asc è Mars as 2nd &

7th Lord and Sani as 4th & 5th Lord

Cap as Asc è Sani as 1st &

2nd Lord and Ven as 5th & 10th Lord

Aqu as Asc è Jup as 2nd &

11th Lord and Mer as 5th & 8th Lord

Pis as Asc è Mars as 2nd &

9th Lord and Moon as 5th Lord

 

Many thanks …..

 

Jai Sita Ram

 

Ram

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Sreenadh

05 January 2008 17:31

 

Subject:

Re: Quize - 2nd lord in Lagna (Answer - A secret

disclosed!)

 

 

Dear Vinita ji,

It is good to see your hard efforts to come up with a

tangible solution... :=) At the end you got it very close. Now let us

see what it is - Yes, the result derived IS based on Natural Zodiac.

Actually there are 2 ways to use the Natural Zodiac/Horoscope in such

house base result derivation. I will explain both of them.

1. Aries as Lagna

----------------------

As we all know Aries is the Lagna (1st Sign/House) in the Natural

Horoscope(NH). Thus considering NH -

2nd lord in lagna is equivalent to Taurus lord (the 2nd

house lord) Venus in Aries lagna. If Aries is lagna and Venus is placed

in lagna, what are the results you can derive? Of course you may readily note

that -

* The significator of Sperm and 7th house, the watery planet Venus

gets placed in a fiery/dry sign Aries - evaporating much of its energy.

* 5th house from Aries is Leo, again a fiery sign, which is

famous as an "Alpa putra Rasi" (the sign giving less number of

sons, or a sign which may not give son at all at times!)

Think about this placement and you will see that a better understanding

about 2nd lord in Lagna is coming out. But this is a well known technique among

practical astrologers; even though much useful - not much of a secret; but the

next technique is defenitly a secret not known to many.

2. Considering the relevant house from Aries as Lagna

-

Actually the above heading does not describe the

technique clearly. It would be better to state - Considering the relevant house

from Aries as Lagna but still placing the lagna of the horoscope in Aries

itself (in the case of lagna based derivation). May be my

language is not good - and the example will serve better to understand

the technique. Here the equivalence is -

"2nd lord in Lagna is equivalent to 2nd lord mercury for

Taurus lagna going to Aries"

So now the lagna is Taurus and 2nd and 5th lord Mercury when to

Aries 12th house from Lagna. Note the following points -

* Lagna lord Venus gets debilitated in 5th!

* Virgo is well popular as an "Alpa putra rasi" (the

sign giving less number of sons, or a sign which may not give son at all at

times!)

* Virgo being a duel sign can indicate 2 children (provided other

conditions favors) - but could be possibly girls.

* 2nd and 5th lord going to 12th from lagna well

explains why native is NOT helpful enough towards his own family, and is in

want of Son (or children).

It is this second logic and technique is the

special/secret technique that is used in deriving this result. Not that this

technique is applicable for every house lord going to any other house -

provided its use and secret is properly understood.

Hope this helps.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

[Guest guest]

Namaste Sreenadh

 

Would you mind mentioning as to where in

the “Files” area the “said” article is stored? I had a

look and couldn’t find it – hence the request ….. Also does it talk about the other Asc’s

mentioned below?

 

Many thanks …..

 

Jai Sita Ram

 

Ram

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Sreenadh

06 January 2008 08:09

 

Subject:

Re: Quize - 2nd lord in Lagna (Answer - A secret

disclosed!)

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Jaswal ji,

An article is posted about 2nd lord in lagna. Read it.

Regards,

Sreenadh

,

" Ram Jaswal " <rkjaswal wrote:

 

RE: Re: Quize - 2nd lord in Lagna

(Answer - A secret disclosed!)

 

 

Namaste Sreenadh

 

Would you mind going through your 2nd method with

another example other than Taurus, Gem, Sco or Sag as Asc to explain

" your " logic further?

 

Eg

Cancer as Asc è Sun as 2nd

Lord and Mars as 5th & 10th Lord

Leo as Asc è Mer as 2nd

& 11th Lord and Jup as 5th & 8th Lord

Virgo as Asc è Ven as 2nd

& 9th Lord and Sani as 5th & 6th Lord

Lib as Asc è Mars as 2nd

& 7th Lord and Sani as 4th & 5th Lord

Cap as Asc è Sani as 1st

& 2nd Lord and Ven as 5th & 10th Lord

Aqu as Asc è Jup as 2nd

& 11th Lord and Mer as 5th & 8th Lord

Pis as Asc è Mars as 2nd

& 9th Lord and Moon as 5th Lord

 

Many thanks …..

 

Jai Sita Ram

 

Ram

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Sreenadh

05 January 2008 17:31

 

 

Re: Quize - 2nd lord in Lagna (Answer - A secret disclosed!)

 

 

Dear Vinita ji,

It is good to see your hard efforts to come up with a

tangible solution... :=) At the end you got it very close. Now let us

see what it is - Yes, the result derived IS based on Natural Zodiac.

Actually there are 2 ways to use the Natural Zodiac/Horoscope in such

house base result derivation. I will explain both of them.

1. Aries as Lagna

----------------------

As we all know Aries is the Lagna (1st Sign/House) in the Natural

Horoscope(NH). Thus considering NH -

2nd lord in lagna is equivalent to Taurus lord (the 2nd

house lord) Venus in Aries lagna. If Aries is lagna and Venus is placed

in lagna, what are the results you can derive? Of course you may readily note

that -

* The significator of Sperm and 7th house, the watery planet Venus

gets placed in a fiery/dry sign Aries - evaporating much of its energy.

* 5th house from Aries is Leo, again a fiery sign, which is

famous as an " Alpa putra Rasi " (the sign giving less number of

sons, or a sign which may not give son at all at times!)

Think about this placement and you will see that a better understanding

about 2nd lord in Lagna is coming out. But this is a well known technique among

practical astrologers; even though much useful - not much of a secret; but the

next technique is defenitly a secret not known to many.

2. Considering the relevant house from Aries as Lagna

-

Actually the above heading does not describe the

technique clearly. It would be better to state - Considering the relevant house

from Aries as Lagna but still placing the lagna of the horoscope in Aries

itself (in the case of lagna based derivation). May be my

language is not good - and the example will serve better to understand

the technique. Here the equivalence is -

" 2nd lord in Lagna is equivalent to 2nd lord mercury for

Taurus lagna going to Aries "

So now the lagna is Taurus and 2nd and 5th lord Mercury when to

Aries 12th house from Lagna. Note the following points -

* Lagna lord Venus gets debilitated in 5th!

* Virgo is well popular as an " Alpa putra rasi " (the

sign giving less number of sons, or a sign which may not give son at all at

times!)

* Virgo being a duel sign can indicate 2 children (provided other

conditions favors) - but could be possibly girls.

* 2nd and 5th lord going to 12th from lagna well

explains why native is NOT helpful enough towards his own family, and is in

want of Son (or children).

It is this second logic and technique is the

special/secret technique that is used in deriving this result. Not that this

technique is applicable for every house lord going to any other house -

provided its use and secret is properly understood.

Hope this helps.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

[Guest guest]

Dear Jaswal ji,

I said "An article is posted", means that is NOT in the

files are but is 'posted as message in the group'. Here is the URL:

/message/6216

==>

> Also does it talk about the other Asc's mentioned below?

<==

You want all the answers in one go - and that also without doing any

effort?!!! :=) Find your way, exercise your brain, and find the

answers - there is no ready made building hiding anywhere here to fulfill the

requests of all in one go.

 

Note:

The notes I provide are just guidance, just the result of my own

thinking, and that too only as much time and my ability allows me to.

When ever you like it you can accept it, otherwise reject - the correct

path is exercising your own brain.

Love and Regards,

Sreenadh

, "Ram Jaswal" <rkjaswal wrote:>> Namaste Sreenadh> > Would you mind mentioning as to where in the "Files" area the "said" article> is stored? I had a look and couldn't find it - hence the request ... Also> does it talk about the other Asc's mentioned below?> > Many thanks ...> > Jai Sita Ram> > Ram> > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Sreenadh> 06 January 2008 08:09> > Re: Quize - 2nd lord in Lagna (Answer -> A secret disclosed!)> > Dear Jaswal ji,> An article is posted about 2nd lord in lagna. Read it.> Regards,> Sreenadh> > , "Ram Jaswal" rkjaswal@> wrote:> RE: Re: Quize - 2nd lord in Lagna (Answer - A> secret disclosed!) > > Namaste Sreenadh> > Would you mind going through your 2nd method with another example other than> Taurus, Gem, Sco or Sag as Asc to explain "your" logic further?> > Eg > Cancer as Asc ==> Sun as 2nd Lord and Mars as 5th & 10th Lord> Leo as Asc ==> Mer as 2nd & 11th Lord and Jup as 5th & 8th Lord> Virgo as Asc ==> Ven as 2nd & 9th Lord and Sani as 5th & 6th Lord> Lib as Asc ==> Mars as 2nd & 7th Lord and Sani as 4th & 5th Lord> Cap as Asc ==> Sani as 1st & 2nd Lord and Ven as 5th & 10th Lord> Aqu as Asc ==> Jup as 2nd & 11th Lord and Mer as 5th & 8th Lord> Pis as Asc ==> Mars as 2nd & 9th Lord and Moon as 5th Lord> > Many thanks ...> > Jai Sita Ram> > Ram> > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Sreenadh> 05 January 2008 17:31> > Re: Quize - 2nd lord in Lagna (Answer -> A secret disclosed!)> > Dear Vinita ji,> It is good to see your hard efforts to come up with a tangible> solution... :=) At the end you got it very close. Now let us see what it> is - Yes, the result derived IS based on Natural Zodiac. > Actually there are 2 ways to use the Natural Zodiac/Horoscope in such house> base result derivation. I will explain both of them. > 1. Aries as Lagna> ----------------------> As we all know Aries is the Lagna (1st Sign/House) in the Natural> Horoscope(NH). Thus considering NH - > 2nd lord in lagna is equivalent to Taurus lord (the 2nd house lord)> Venus in Aries lagna. If Aries is lagna and Venus is placed in lagna, what> are the results you can derive? Of course you may readily note that - > * The significator of Sperm and 7th house, the watery planet Venus gets> placed in a fiery/dry sign Aries - evaporating much of its energy. > * 5th house from Aries is Leo, again a fiery sign, which is famous as> an "Alpa putra Rasi" (the sign giving less number of sons, or a sign which> may not give son at all at times!)> Think about this placement and you will see that a better understanding> about 2nd lord in Lagna is coming out. But this is a well known technique> among practical astrologers; even though much useful - not much of a secret;> but the next technique is defenitly a secret not known to many. > 2. Considering the relevant house from Aries as Lagna > -> Actually the above heading does not describe the technique clearly.> It would be better to state - Considering the relevant house from Aries as> Lagna but still placing the lagna of the horoscope in Aries itself (in the> case of lagna based derivation). May be my language is not good - and> the example will serve better to understand the technique. Here the> equivalence is - > "2nd lord in Lagna is equivalent to 2nd lord mercury for Taurus lagna> going to Aries" > So now the lagna is Taurus and 2nd and 5th lord Mercury when to Aries> 12th house from Lagna. Note the following points -> * Lagna lord Venus gets debilitated in 5th! > * Virgo is well popular as an "Alpa putra rasi" (the sign giving less> number of sons, or a sign which may not give son at all at times!)> * Virgo being a duel sign can indicate 2 children (provided other> conditions favors) - but could be possibly girls. > * 2nd and 5th lord going to 12th from lagna well explains why native is> NOT helpful enough towards his own family, and is in want of Son (or> children). > > It is this second logic and technique is the special/secret technique> that is used in deriving this result. Not that this technique is applicable> for every house lord going to any other house - provided its use and secret> is properly understood. > Hope this helps. > Love and regards,> Sreenadh>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sreenadh ji,

 

Now I got it. This is amazing..thanks.

 

blessings

Renu

 

The 2nd lord going to the 12th house from it is equivalent to -

The 2nd house lord from Tarus (i.e. Mercury) going to 12th house

from it (in to Aries)

Similarly - 3rd HL coming to Lagna (to 11th from 3rd) is

equivalent to - 3rd house lord from Gemini lagna (3rd House in NH)

going to 11th from it (i.e. in to Aries)

4th HL coming to Lagna(to 10th from 3rd) is equivalent to - 4th

> house lord from Cancr lagna (4th House in NH) going to 10th from it

> (i.e. in to Aries).

> And so on - Think of it. Like Bhavat Bhavam, it is applicable

> everywhere - to derive the results for House lords going to other

> houses.

> Hope this helps.

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " renunw " <renunw@>

> wrote:

> Re: Quize - 2nd lord in Lagna (Answer - A secret disclosed!)

>

> Dear Sreenadh ji,

>

> Thanks so much for the explanation. I highly appreciate your

dedication

> in teaching and generosity in sharing numerous astrological

techniques .

>

> 1st part is OK. But...

>

> " . Here the equivalence is -

> " 2nd lord in Lagna is equivalent to 2nd lord mercury for

Taurus lagna

> going to Aries "

> So now the lagna is Taurus and 2nd and 5th lord Mercury when

to Aries

> 12th house from Lagna. Note the following points -

> * Lagna lord Venus gets debilitated in 5th!

> * Virgo is well popular as an " Alpa putra rasi " (the sign

giving less

> number of sons, or a sign which may not give son at all at times!)

> * Virgo being a duel sign can indicate 2 children (provided

other

> conditions favors) - but could be possibly girls.

> * 2nd and 5th lord going to 12th from lagna well explains why

> native is NOT helpful enough towards his own family, and is in

want of

> Son ......

>

> I'm sorry...I don't feel much comfortable here. If you don't mind

kindly

> explain this taking another laga as well.... so that it will bring

some

> sense to my poor intellect. For example if Cancer is the lagna

> concerned, the 2HL is Sun. Are we to go on with theoretically

placing

> Sun in Aries and analyse accordingly? Then 2HL from Cancer will be

> placed in 10H from it......?????

>

> blessings

>

> Renu

>

> >

> > , " Sreenadh "

> > sreesog@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Vinita ji,

> > > It is good to see your hard efforts to come up with a tangible

> > > solution... :=) At the end you got it very close. Now let

us see

> > > what it is - Yes, the result derived IS based on Natural

Zodiac.

> > > Actually there are 2 ways to use the Natural Zodiac/Horoscope

in

> such

> > > house base result derivation. I will explain both of them.

> > > 1. Aries as Lagna

> > > ----------------------

> > > As we all know Aries is the Lagna (1st Sign/House) in the

Natural

> > > Horoscope(NH). Thus considering NH -

> > > 2nd lord in lagna is equivalent to Taurus lord (the 2nd house

lord)

> > > Venus in Aries lagna. If Aries is lagna and Venus is placed in

> lagna,

> > > what are the results you can derive? Of course you may readily

note

> > that

> > > -

> > > * The significator of Sperm and 7th house, the watery planet

Venus

> > > gets placed in a fiery/dry sign Aries - evaporating much of its

> > energy.

> > > * 5th house from Aries is Leo, again a fiery sign, which is

famous

> > > as an " Alpa putra Rasi " (the sign giving less number of sons,

or a

> > sign

> > > which may not give son at all at times!)

> > > Think about this placement and you will see that a better

> > > understanding about 2nd lord in Lagna is coming out. But this

is a

> > well

> > > known technique among practical astrologers; even though much

useful

> -

> > > not much of a secret; but the next technique is defenitly a

secret

> not

> > > known to many.

> > > 2. Considering the relevant house from Aries as Lagna

> > > ------------------------------

----

> > > Actually the above heading does not describe the technique

> > > clearly. It would be better to state - Considering the relevant

> house

> > > from Aries as Lagna but still placing the lagna of the

horoscope in

> > > Aries itself (in the case of lagna based derivation). May

be my

> > > language is not good - and the example will serve better to

> understand

> > > the technique. Here the equivalence is -

> > > " 2nd lord in Lagna is equivalent to 2nd lord mercury for Taurus

> lagna

> > > going to Aries "

> > > So now the lagna is Taurus and 2nd and 5th lord Mercury when to

> Aries

> > > 12th house from Lagna. Note the following points -

> > > * Lagna lord Venus gets debilitated in 5th!

> > > * Virgo is well popular as an " Alpa putra rasi " (the sign

giving

> less

> > > number of sons, or a sign which may not give son at all at

times!)

> > > * Virgo being a duel sign can indicate 2 children (provided

other

> > > conditions favors) - but could be possibly girls.

> > > * 2nd and 5th lord going to 12th from lagna well explains why

> > > native is NOT helpful enough towards his own family, and is in

want

> of

> > > Son (or children).

> > >

> > > It is this second logic and technique is the special/secret

> > > technique that is used in deriving this result. Not that this

> > technique

> > > is applicable for every house lord going to any other house -

> provided

> > > its use and secret is properly understood.

> > > Hope this helps.

> > > Love and regards,

> > > Sreenadh

> > > , " vinita kumar "

> > > shankar_mamta@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > why want of children is more applicable to want of " son " is

> because

> > > > Singh / Leo is the 5th house of the natural zodiac ruled by

Sun

> > > > signifying male child???....pun not intended.

> > > >

> > > > , " vinita

kumar "

> > > > shankar_mamta@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > father of the child (5th) is 9th from 5th which is 1st or

lagna

> > > > > (native himself).

> > > > >

> > > > > 5th from lagna is 4th from 2nd...and lord of 2nd itself is

12th.

> > > > >

> > > > > So some kind of a loss of 4th from 2nd too???

> > > > >

> > > > > ok....no more tries...i'ver tried enough!

> > > > >

> > > > > 12th signifies loss...whreas 5th is

> > > > > , " vinita

kumar "

> > > > > <shankar_mamta@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > also father is 8th from 2nd...(9th from lagna)...and

lord of

> 2nd

> > > > > is

> > > > > > 12th from 2nd.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 8th from second is " in debt " ...in want of?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 9th from lagna is 5th from 5th just as 5th from lagna is

9th

> > > > from

> > > > > > 9th...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i dunno where i am going...cannot get the right

connection...!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " vinita

> kumar "

> > > > > > <shankar_mamta@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > After looking at these clues, i am making one more try!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 5th is 4th from 2nd. 4th house is the house of Sukha

> > > > > > > also?...fulfillment of desires (not so sure)!?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > now if the lord of 2nd is 12th from 2nd, does it not

signify

> > > > it

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > unfulfilled sukha (4th) of children (5th from lagna

but 4th

> > > > from

> > > > > > > 2nd)?...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > wild, wild try!!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

, " Sreenadh "

> > > > > > > <sreesog@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Mehta ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Note quite there.. :=) Try once more!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >Anything connected with Lagna cannot be

unauspiscious

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > No! The sages never thought so! (This is the result

> provided

> > > > > by

> > > > > > > Parasara

> > > > > > > > and Lomasa!) There methodologies are different and

in this

> > > > > case

> > > > > > we

> > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > soon see what it is - in this case.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Of course when something is related to the lagna,

there

> > > > are

> > > > > > > several

> > > > > > > > good things also can be predicted - of course this

is true

> > > > in

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > > case

> > > > > > > > as well. So I appreciate your intuition which

says that

> > > > > there

> > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > be something good there when something is connected

to

> > > > > lagna.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sreenadh

> > > > > > > > <mehta ji wrote.....>

> > > > > > > > Re: Quize of the Day - 2nd lord in Lagna

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Because it is 12th from its own house which signifies

> family

> > > > (

> > > > > > > kutumb).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > As for the children part: A WILD TRY : because it

(2nd) is

> > > > > 10th

> > > > > > > from the

> > > > > > > > 5th house signifying the father for the children.

Does it

> > > > > point

> > > > > > > towards

> > > > > > > > fertility problems?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My 4 annas : anything connected with Lagna cannot be

> > > > > > unauspiscious.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Waiting for the answer.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 4/1/08, Sreenadh <sreesog@

> > > > > > > > <sreesog@> > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sreenadh <sreesog@ <sreesog@> >

> > > > > > > > Quize of the

Day - 2nd

> > > > > lord

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > <

> > > > > > > > Friday, 4 January, 2008, 1:48 PM

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear all,

> > > > > > > > I have question to all - What is the result to be

> > > > > predicted

> > > > > > if

> > > > > > > 2nd

> > > > > > > > house lord is in Lagna.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > This question is specially aimed at Renu ji, Kiran

ji,

> > > > > > Vinita

> > > > > > > ji etc

> > > > > > > > - just intending to break there benefic/malefic

theory

> with

> > > > an

> > > > > > > example.

> > > > > > > > :=)

> > > > > > > > I will refine the question going a bit further - If

> > > > 2nd

> > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > is in

> > > > > > > > Lagna the native " will be in want of children

> (son/daughter)

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > much helpful to his own family - Why?!!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Love and Regards,

> > > > > > > > Sreenadh

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Namaste Sreenadh

 

Thanks – I saw your “article”

email after having sent my email ……..

 

With regards to “exercising”

ones brains – trust me that is done all the time without even thinking

about it …….

 

Answers/clarifications are generally

sought when one is unsure – please don’t confuse the “asking”

from Not even “thinking” …….

 

Also don’t know about you But feel better to ask and thereby further my knowledge

rather than make assumptions which may be completely wrong? I thought this

forum was for “sharing” knowledge ….

 

As regarding taking anybodies comments fully

on-board I am sure everyone is the same in accepting what seems ok to oneself

and ignoring the rest – guess a “no brainer” in this respect?

 

Kind regards …….

 

Jai Sita Ram

 

Ram

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Sreenadh

06 January 2008 16:29

 

Subject:

Re: Quize - 2nd lord in Lagna (Answer - A secret

disclosed!)

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Jaswal ji,

I said " An article is posted " , means that is NOT in the

files are but is 'posted as message in the group'. Here is the URL:

/message/6216

==>

> Also does it talk about the other Asc's mentioned below?

<==

You want all the answers in one go - and that also without doing any

effort?!!! :=) Find your way, exercise your brain, and find the

answers - there is no ready made building hiding anywhere here to fulfill the

requests of all in one go.

Note: The notes I provide are

just guidance, just the result of my own thinking, and that too only as much

time and my ability allows me to. When ever you like it you can accept it,

otherwise reject - the correct path is exercising your own brain.

Love and Regards,

Sreenadh

,

" Ram Jaswal " <rkjaswal wrote:

>

> Namaste Sreenadh

>

> Would you mind mentioning as to where in the " Files " area the

" said " article

> is stored? I had a look and couldn't find it - hence the request ... Also

> does it talk about the other Asc's mentioned below?

>

> Many thanks ...

>

> Jai Sita Ram

>

> Ram

>

> _____

>

>

>

On Behalf Of Sreenadh

> 06 January 2008 08:09

>

> Re: Quize - 2nd lord in Lagna

(Answer -

> A secret disclosed!)

>

> Dear Jaswal ji,

> An article is posted about 2nd lord in lagna. Read it.

> Re gards,

> Sreenadh

>

> ,

" Ram Jaswal " rkjaswal@

> wrote:

> RE: Re: Quize - 2nd lord in Lagna (Answer

- A

> secret disclosed!)

>

> Namaste Sreenadh

>

> Would you mind going through your 2nd method with another example other

than

> Taurus, Gem, Sco or Sag as Asc to explain " your " logic further?

>

> Eg

> Cancer as Asc ==> Sun as 2nd Lord and Mars as 5th & 10th Lord

> Leo as Asc ==> Mer as 2nd & 11th Lord and Jup as 5th & 8th Lord

> Virgo as Asc ==> Ven as 2nd & 9th Lord and Sani as 5th & 6th

Lord

> Lib as Asc ==> Mars as 2nd & 7th Lord and Sani as 4th & 5th

Lord

> Cap as Asc ==> Sani as 1st & 2nd Lord and Ven as 5th & 10th

Lord

> Aqu as Asc ==> Jup as 2nd & 11th Lord and Mer as 5th & 8th Lord

> Pis as Asc ==> Mars as 2nd & 9th Lord and Moon as 5th Lord

>

> Many thanks ...

>

> Jai Sita Ram

>

> Ram

>

> _____

>

>

>

On Behalf Of Sreenadh

> 05 January 2008 17:31

>

> Re: Quize - 2nd lord in Lagna

(Answer -

> A secret disclosed!)

>

> Dear Vinita ji,

> It is good to see your hard efforts to come up with a tangible

> solution... :=) At the end you got it very close. Now let us see what

it

> is - Yes, the result derived IS based on Natural Zodiac.

> Actually there are 2 ways to use the Natural Zodiac/Horoscope in such

house

> base result derivation. I will explain both of them.

> 1. Aries as Lagna

> ----------------------

> As we all know Aries is the Lagna (1st Sign/House) in the Natural

> Horoscope(NH). Thus considering NH -

> 2nd lord in lagna is equivalent to Taurus lord (the 2nd house lord)

> Venus in Aries lagna. If Aries is lagna and Venus is placed in lagna, what

> are the results you can derive? Of course you may readily note that -

> * The significator of Sperm and 7th house, the watery planet Venus gets

> placed in a fiery/dry sign Aries - evaporating much of its energy.

> * 5th house from Aries is Leo, again a fiery sign, which is famous as

> an " Alpa putra Rasi " (the sign giving less number of sons, or a

sign which

> may not give son at all at times!)

> Think about this placement and you will see that a better understanding

> about 2nd lord in Lagna is coming out. But this is a well known technique

> among practical astrologers; even thoug h much useful - not much of a

secret;

> but the next technique is defenitly a secret not known to many.

> 2. Considering the relevant house from Aries as Lagna

> -

> Actually the above heading does not describe the technique clearly.

> It would be better to state - Considering the relevant house from Aries as

> Lagna but still placing the lagna of the horoscope in Aries itself (in the

> case of lagna based derivation). May be my language is not good - and

> the example will serve better to understand the technique. Here the

> equivalence is -

> " 2nd lord in Lagna is equivalent to 2nd lord mercury for Taurus lagna

> going to Aries "

> So now the lagna is Taurus and 2nd and 5th lord Mercury when to Aries

> 12th house from Lagna. Note the following points -

> * Lagna lord Venu s gets debilitated in 5th!

> * Virgo is well popular as an " Alpa putra rasi " (the sign giving

less

> number of sons, or a sign which may not give son at all at times!)

> * Virgo being a duel sign can indicate 2 children (provided other

> conditions favors) - but could be possibly girls.

> * 2nd and 5th lord going to 12th from lagna well explains why native is

> NOT helpful enough towards his own family, and is in want of Son (or

> children).

>

> It is this second logic and technique is the special/secret technique

> that is used in deriving this result. Not that this technique is

applicable

> for every house lord going to any other house - provided its use and

secret

> is properly understood.

> Hope this helps.

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Jaswal ji, I agree with you. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Ram Jaswal" <rkjaswal wrote:

RE: Re: Quize - 2nd lord in Lagna (Answer - A secret disclosed!)

 

 

 

Namaste Sreenadh

 

Thanks â€" I saw your “article†email after having sent my email ……..

 

With regards to “exercising†ones brains â€" trust me that is done all the time without even thinking about it …….

 

Answers/clarifications are generally sought when one is unsure â€" please don’t confuse the “asking†from Not even “thinking†…….

 

Also don’t know about you But feel better to ask and thereby further my knowledge rather than make assumptions which may be completely wrong? I thought this forum was for “sharing†knowledge ….

 

As regarding taking anybodies comments fully on-board I am sure everyone is the same in accepting what seems ok to oneself and ignoring the rest â€" guess a “no brainer†in this respect?

 

Kind regards …….

 

Jai Sita Ram

 

Ram

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Sreenadh06 January 2008 16:29 Subject: Re: Quize - 2nd lord in Lagna (Answer - A secret disclosed!)

 

 

 

 

Dear Jaswal ji, I said "An article is posted", means that is NOT in the files are but is 'posted as message in the group'. Here is the URL: /message/6216==>> Also does it talk about the other Asc's mentioned below?<== You want all the answers in one go - and that also without doing any effort?!!! :=) Find your way, exercise your brain, and find the answers - there is no ready made building hiding anywhere here to fulfill the requests of all in one go.

Note: The notes I provide are just guidance, just the result of my own thinking, and that too only as much time and my ability allows me to. When ever you like it you can accept it, otherwise reject - the correct path is exercising your own brain. Love and Regards,Sreenadh