General_Queries_to sreenadhji, Sreeramji

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, Kiran R <kiran.rama wrote:Dear Kiran. Rama

My comments are in Red & Blue Font.

with regards,

Sreeram_Srinivas

Dear Sreenadhji/Sreeramji, I have some doubts on basics that are acting as roadblock in my progress ** Lagna lord aspect on any house is good for that house. So if lagna lord aspects the 2nd house, it must make the native wealthy. DOES THIS HOLD TRUE IF LAGNA LORD IS DEBILITATED OR IN ENEMY'S HOUSE? In case of lagna lord being debilitated or in enemy house does it mean that lagna lord will still bestow wealth on 2nd house by way of aspect but the amount will be less? Or does it mean that lagna lord by virtue of debilitation/being posited in enemy house will cause loss of wealth to native?Sreeram Comment:

1) The strength of the LL is the determining factor. Exalted or Debilitated or own house or normal placement accordingly the nature of its ability to earn

2) LL aspecting 2H does NOT indicate wealth, but more of money centered decision making or having an eye for money, debilitation increases the hunger for money - traditional unscrupulous money lenders in villages { recall our 1950+1960's old actor "Jeevan" who used to play the "Munimji" role in fantastic way}.

3) Exalted planet indicates more adherence to norms of the society or principles, Debilitations - principles & norms kept aside so long it makes a business sense or brings it closer to the objective.

4) More malefic aspect in the said conditions can indicate loss of money.

** Suppose I want to take a call on the overall physical appearance of a native, I have to look at Lagna. What if lagna lord is in dustana, malefic is in lagna and benefic planet aspects lagna? IN THIS CASE SHOULD WE PREDICT MIXED RESULTS FOR APPEARANCE OF NATIVE?

Srinivas Comments:

5) LL going to dustana indicates slim or delicate body. In Aries Lagna, Mars going to 8H is may give it a "water pumped" bloated body, being in own house gives the native a cool temperament. Such people need to careful of toxins in their body raised due to jealousy or possessive or typical scorpion nature. Secretive nature

Similarly for Taurus Lagna, LL going to 6H, indicates native either opting to go for medical field {generally good career option for Taureans in this scenario}. Here it gives a slim body or sensitive body i.e. prone to illness...etc...depending upon the other planetary conditions. Venus going to is own sign, also gives resistance to fighting ability to diseases. Self regulation.

For Libra Lagna, LL getting exalted in 6H Pisces, may indicate native's ability to overcome his opponents { I do not like enemies, prefer Opponents- for its sounds more positive for in office we only have opponents - differences in opinions or thoughts, but not really enemies} through his knowledge. Venus is itself a Dyaita/Demon's Guru, Pisces - Jupiter sign- indicating knowledge. It also gives irritable temper which 6H is known for.

** What if malefic is vargottama? Suppose malefic Saturn is vargottamma, meaning it is like Saturn is in his own house. Does it indicate aspect by Saturn is no longer malefic and is benefic?

Srinivas Comments:

A planet exalted or own house or in moolatrikona or vargottama, looses its malefience . But keep focus of the House Lordship here. This is very vital. 6HL or 8HL getting exalted may not augur well for the native, depending upon what you or the native is looking for. There is an article on Sri K.N. Rao's website of a "Romance of Debilitated 10HL". In the given hororoscope, the lagna is vargottam, LL is vargottam, inspite of other debilitations, the native's career went very vey positive. Ofcourse, the native {do not remember either this case or different for writing from memory} did not experience Mahadasha of the debilitated Lord, that was a saving grace, next was a debilitated planet but vargottam, gave mixed result in a closely known case. So there are many ways to beat debilitation. Look for Stellar Lord disposition - well connected or placed...etc.., still will get some good results. Need to look at the combinations, which will ensure the debilitated effects narrowly missing!! ** Will an exalted planet cause harm to the house he is in if he is malefic? Suppose malefic Mars is in the 7th house. He must cause celibacy being a brahmachari or loss of wife or loss of marriage. What if Mars is exalted in the 7th house? Will he give negative results for the 7th house or will he give positive results for the 7th house

Sreeram Comments:

For a Sagattarius, 6HL Venus getting exalted in 4H would do more harm, if the issue is related to age group of 50+. Note, it is the 6HL getting exalted or strengthened. If there is a connection with LL then may indicate fighting abilities, but not take away the first statement of made at begining of this para.

It is for Cancer Lagna that Mars gets exalted in 7H i.e. Lord of 5H {Trine Lord} & 10H {Kendra Lord}. Surely it will give good results, for it also aspects the Lagna from there. I would predict such persons are real dare devils and simply go ahead in extending your hands of friendship {blindly} for you will never be disappointed. Worthy partners - friends or spouse. ** Shadow planets question Shadow planets Rahu and Ketu take on the role of the planets they are posited with or the lords of the houses. Suppose Ketu is with Mercury and Saturn is the lord of the house that Ketu is in. Will Ketu take on Mercury's role or will he take on Saturn's role Sreeram Comments:

The nodes "assumes" the additional role of its conjunct planet. However, scriptures did not mention that Ketu would forget itself !! i.e. It partakes certain qualities of its conjunct planet in addition to itself.

Example:- Chameleon assumes the colors of the surface it is on, but it itself does not change its character or nature.

Similarly Ketu adds that planet attributes that it can carry with dignity in addition to its own. Ketu + Mercury = say in Virgo, Ketu is a confusion master, whereas a whereas this exalted Mercury is intelligent and fast decision maker. The true quality of astrologer would surface when making this differentiation - where the decisions become slow, when it becomes fast in what topics or subjects......ofcourse if it is NOT difficult for steadfast person like you !!!

Note: Planet reveal themselves to the those who spend quality time on them....

ThanksKiran

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Dear Sreeram ji,

 

Nice to read your learned notes which no doubt are immensely useful

for analysis of horoscopes. It is a hearty breakfast with the dawn

of the new year. Yet I cannot agree with the

following:..... " typical scorpion nature. Secretive nature " -

..............

since I do have many Scorpion friends who are the most open hearted

straight forward people I have ever come across. I can always give

you the horoscopes of these people. This is NOT personal but is a

fact which I have experienced among my good friends. May be since

most people are secretive that they fail to understand the openess

of Scorpions.

 

blessings

 

Renu

 

 

 

 

, " sreeram srinivas "

<sreeram64 wrote:

>

>

>

> , Kiran R

> <kiran.rama@> wrote:

>

> Dear Kiran. Rama

>

> My comments are in Red & Blue Font.

>

> with regards,

>

> Sreeram_Srinivas

>

> Dear Sreenadhji/Sreeramji,

>

> I have some doubts on basics that are acting as roadblock in my

progress

>

> ** Lagna lord aspect on any house is good for that house. So if

lagna

> lord aspects the 2nd house, it must make the native wealthy.

>

> DOES THIS HOLD TRUE IF LAGNA LORD IS DEBILITATED OR IN ENEMY'S

HOUSE?

> In case of lagna lord being debilitated or in enemy house does it

mean

> that lagna lord will still bestow wealth on 2nd house by way of

aspect

> but the amount will be less?

> Or does it mean that lagna lord by virtue of debilitation/being

posited

> in enemy house will cause loss of wealth to native?

> Sreeram Comment:

>

> 1) The strength of the LL is the determining factor. Exalted or

> Debilitated or own house or normal placement accordingly the

nature of

> its ability to earn

>

> 2) LL aspecting 2H does NOT indicate wealth, but more of money

centered

> decision making or having an eye for money, debilitation

increases the

> hunger for money - traditional unscrupulous money lenders in

villages {

> recall our 1950+1960's old actor " Jeevan " who used to play

the " Munimji "

> role in fantastic way}.

>

> 3) Exalted planet indicates more adherence to norms of the

society or

> principles, Debilitations - principles & norms kept aside so long

it

> makes a business sense or brings it closer to the objective.

>

> 4) More malefic aspect in the said conditions can indicate loss of

> money.

>

>

> ** Suppose I want to take a call on the overall physical

appearance of a

> native, I have to look at Lagna. What if lagna lord is in dustana,

> malefic is in lagna and benefic planet aspects lagna?

> IN THIS CASE SHOULD WE PREDICT MIXED RESULTS FOR APPEARANCE OF

NATIVE?

>

> Srinivas Comments:

>

> 5) LL going to dustana indicates slim or delicate body. In Aries

> Lagna, Mars going to 8H is may give it a " water pumped " bloated

body,

> being in own house gives the native a cool temperament. Such

people

> need to careful of toxins in their body raised due to jealousy or

> possessive or typical scorpion nature. Secretive nature

>

> Similarly for Taurus Lagna, LL going to 6H, indicates native either

> opting to go for medical field {generally good career option for

> Taureans in this scenario}. Here it gives a slim body or

sensitive body

> i.e. prone to illness...etc...depending upon the other planetary

> conditions. Venus going to is own sign, also gives resistance to

> fighting ability to diseases. Self regulation.

>

> For Libra Lagna, LL getting exalted in 6H Pisces, may indicate

native's

> ability to overcome his opponents { I do not like enemies, prefer

> Opponents- for its sounds more positive for in office we only have

> opponents - differences in opinions or thoughts, but not really

enemies}

> through his knowledge. Venus is itself a Dyaita/Demon's Guru,

Pisces -

> Jupiter sign- indicating knowledge. It also gives irritable

temper

> which 6H is known for.

>

> ** What if malefic is vargottama?

> Suppose malefic Saturn is vargottamma, meaning it is like Saturn

is in

> his own house.

> Does it indicate aspect by Saturn is no longer malefic and is

benefic?

>

> Srinivas Comments:

>

> A planet exalted or own house or in moolatrikona or vargottama,

looses

> its malefience . But keep focus of the House Lordship here.

This is

> very vital. 6HL or 8HL getting exalted may not augur well for the

> native, depending upon what you or the native is looking for.

There is

> an article on Sri K.N. Rao's website of a " Romance of Debilitated

10HL " .

> In the given hororoscope, the lagna is vargottam, LL is vargottam,

> inspite of other debilitations, the native's career went very vey

> positive. Ofcourse, the native {do not remember either this case

or

> different for writing from memory} did not experience Mahadasha of

the

> debilitated Lord, that was a saving grace, next was a debilitated

> planet but vargottam, gave mixed result in a closely known

case. So

> there are many ways to beat debilitation. Look for Stellar Lord

> disposition - well connected or placed...etc.., still will get

some good

> results. Need to look at the combinations, which will ensure the

> debilitated effects narrowly missing!!

>

> ** Will an exalted planet cause harm to the house he is in if he is

> malefic?

> Suppose malefic Mars is in the 7th house. He must cause celibacy

being

> a brahmachari or loss of wife or loss of marriage. What if Mars is

> exalted in the 7th house? Will he give negative results for the 7th

> house or will he give positive results for the 7th house

>

> Sreeram Comments:

>

> For a Sagattarius, 6HL Venus getting exalted in 4H would do more

harm,

> if the issue is related to age group of 50+. Note, it is the 6HL

> getting exalted or strengthened. If there is a connection with LL

then

> may indicate fighting abilities, but not take away the first

statement

> of made at begining of this para.

>

> It is for Cancer Lagna that Mars gets exalted in 7H i.e. Lord of 5H

> {Trine Lord} & 10H {Kendra Lord}. Surely it will give good

results, for

> it also aspects the Lagna from there. I would predict such

persons are

> real dare devils and simply go ahead in extending your hands of

> friendship {blindly} for you will never be disappointed. Worthy

> partners - friends or spouse.

>

> ** Shadow planets question

> Shadow planets Rahu and Ketu take on the role of the planets

they are

> posited with or the lords of the houses. Suppose Ketu is with

Mercury

> and Saturn is the lord of the house that Ketu is in. Will Ketu

take on

> Mercury's role or will he take on Saturn's role

>

> Sreeram Comments:

>

> The nodes " assumes " the additional role of its conjunct planet.

> However, scriptures did not mention that Ketu would forget

itself !!

> i.e. It partakes certain qualities of its conjunct planet in

addition to

> itself.

>

> Example:- Chameleon assumes the colors of the surface it is on,

but it

> itself does not change its character or nature.

>

> Similarly Ketu adds that planet attributes that it can carry with

> dignity in addition to its own. Ketu + Mercury = say in

Virgo, Ketu

> is a confusion master, whereas a whereas this exalted Mercury is

> intelligent and fast decision maker. The true quality of

astrologer

> would surface when making this differentiation - where the

decisions

> become slow, when it becomes fast in what topics or

> subjects......ofcourse if it is NOT difficult for steadfast

person like

> you !!!

>

> Note: Planet reveal themselves to the those who spend quality

time on

> them....

>

> Thanks

> Kiran

>

[Guest guest]

I do agree that not all scorpions are jealous, they can also be

passionate on many things, just like NOT all " Sagittarians are NOT Swami

Vivekanandas " . There are good qualities for every raising ascendant

and should not be overlooked.

 

Renuji has known sufficient Scorpion Lagna personalities in her place of

stay and agree to it.

 

When identifying any quality of the person, try to see connection

between LL, Moon & Sun. If all three are in three different directions

then one would acting our great Nawab Sharif for he must have flip

flopped from participating & NON-Participation in the 8-Jan-08 Pakistan

elections - to my own count atleast 5 times till now in a period of one

month = conclusion - cannot frame any opinion of his own.

 

Connection between LL & Moon = Native thinks & acts according to his own

mental logics. Connnection between LL & Sun = Native acts according to

his own conscience. When Sun & Moon are conjunct depending upon the

nature of conjunction, the stronger one takes precedence. When Sun &

Moon are connected but LL is away or not connected...then native will

say or think something and act differently.....

 

The predominance of positive or negative qualities of that ascendant are

to be assessed considering the planetary positions in Sattwic or

Tamasic or Rajaswic signs, malefic or benefic....etc.. the few basics

given above. Then only go for predictions.

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

 

 

, " renunw " <renunw

wrote:

 

Dear Sreeram ji,

 

Nice to read your learned notes which no doubt are immensely useful

for analysis of horoscopes. It is a hearty breakfast with the dawn

of the new year. Yet I cannot agree with the

following:..... " typical scorpion nature. Secretive nature " -

.............

since I do have many Scorpion friends who are the most open hearted

straight forward people I have ever come across. I can always give

you the horoscopes of these people. This is NOT personal but is a

fact which I have experienced among my good friends. May be since

most people are secretive that they fail to understand the openess

of Scorpions.

 

blessings

 

Renu

[Guest guest]

Dear Sreeramji,Thanks for the reply - It was very good learning.Can we make a generalizations that * any malefic planet in exaltation, own house, vargottama behaves like a benefic planet. So Saturn, Sun, Mars must be treated as benefic planet for all planet based analysis if they are in exaltation, own house, vargottama* house lord position in sustana/dustana has more prominence than benefic/malefic aspecft. So if lagna lord is in dustana it indicates weak body irresepective of benefic occupancy/aspect - which will remedy the situation lightlyOne more question:If x house lord is in dustana, it is bad for the house x. But what if the planet-house combination is good. E.g: Sun maybe lagna lord in dustana 6th house and indicate bad for lagna (rupa/looks, deha/body, siro/head) BUT "Sun in 6th house is benefic position for Sun".in this case, what should be given more prominence? Is it "house lord in dustana" or "Sun in 6th house -

benefic placement for Sun"ThanksKiransreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote: , Kiran R <kiran.rama wrote:Dear Kiran. Rama My comments are in Red & Blue Font. with regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Dear Sreenadhji/Sreeramji, I have some doubts on basics that are acting as

roadblock in my progress ** Lagna lord aspect on any house is good for that house. So if lagna lord aspects the 2nd house, it must make the native wealthy. DOES THIS HOLD TRUE IF LAGNA LORD IS DEBILITATED OR IN ENEMY'S HOUSE? In case of lagna lord being debilitated or in enemy house does it mean that lagna lord will still bestow wealth on 2nd house by way of aspect but the amount will be less? Or does it mean that lagna lord by virtue of debilitation/being posited in enemy house will cause loss of wealth to native?Sreeram Comment: 1) The strength of the LL is the determining factor. Exalted or Debilitated or own house or normal placement accordingly the nature of its ability to earn 2) LL aspecting 2H does NOT indicate wealth, but more of money centered decision making or having an eye for

money, debilitation increases the hunger for money - traditional unscrupulous money lenders in villages { recall our 1950+1960's old actor "Jeevan" who used to play the "Munimji" role in fantastic way}. 3) Exalted planet indicates more adherence to norms of the society or principles, Debilitations - principles & norms kept aside so long it makes a business sense or brings it closer to the objective. 4) More malefic aspect in the said conditions can indicate loss of money. ** Suppose I want to take a call on the overall physical appearance of a native, I have to look at Lagna. What if lagna lord is in dustana, malefic is in lagna and benefic planet aspects lagna? IN THIS CASE SHOULD WE PREDICT MIXED RESULTS FOR APPEARANCE OF NATIVE? Srinivas Comments: 5) LL going to

dustana indicates slim or delicate body. In Aries Lagna, Mars going to 8H is may give it a "water pumped" bloated body, being in own house gives the native a cool temperament. Such people need to careful of toxins in their body raised due to jealousy or possessive or typical scorpion nature. Secretive nature Similarly for Taurus Lagna, LL going to 6H, indicates native either opting to go for medical field {generally good career option for Taureans in this scenario}. Here it gives a slim body or sensitive body i.e. prone to illness...etc...depending upon the other planetary conditions. Venus going to is own sign, also gives resistance to fighting ability to diseases. Self regulation. For Libra Lagna, LL getting exalted in 6H Pisces, may indicate native's ability to overcome his opponents { I do not like

enemies, prefer Opponents- for its sounds more positive for in office we only have opponents - differences in opinions or thoughts, but not really enemies} through his knowledge. Venus is itself a Dyaita/Demon's Guru, Pisces - Jupiter sign- indicating knowledge. It also gives irritable temper which 6H is known for. ** What if malefic is vargottama? Suppose malefic Saturn is vargottamma, meaning it is like Saturn is in his own house. Does it indicate aspect by Saturn is no longer malefic and is benefic? Srinivas Comments: A planet exalted or own house or in moolatrikona or vargottama, looses its malefience . But keep focus of the House Lordship here. This is very vital. 6HL or 8HL getting exalted may not augur well for the native, depending upon what you or the native is looking

for. There is an article on Sri K.N. Rao's website of a "Romance of Debilitated 10HL". In the given hororoscope, the lagna is vargottam, LL is vargottam, inspite of other debilitations, the native's career went very vey positive. Ofcourse, the native {do not remember either this case or different for writing from memory} did not experience Mahadasha of the debilitated Lord, that was a saving grace, next was a debilitated planet but vargottam, gave mixed result in a closely known case. So there are many ways to beat debilitation. Look for Stellar Lord disposition - well connected or placed...etc.., still will get some good results. Need to look at the combinations, which will ensure the debilitated effects narrowly missing!! ** Will an exalted planet cause harm to the house he is in if he is

malefic? Suppose malefic Mars is in the 7th house. He must cause celibacy being a brahmachari or loss of wife or loss of marriage. What if Mars is exalted in the 7th house? Will he give negative results for the 7th house or will he give positive results for the 7th house Sreeram Comments: For a Sagattarius, 6HL Venus getting exalted in 4H would do more harm, if the issue is related to age group of 50+. Note, it is the 6HL getting exalted or strengthened. If there is a connection with LL then may indicate fighting abilities, but not take away the first statement of made at begining of this para. It is for Cancer Lagna that Mars gets exalted in 7H i.e. Lord of 5H {Trine Lord} & 10H {Kendra Lord}. Surely it will give good results, for it also aspects the Lagna from there. I

would predict such persons are real dare devils and simply go ahead in extending your hands of friendship {blindly} for you will never be disappointed. Worthy partners - friends or spouse. ** Shadow planets question Shadow planets Rahu and Ketu take on the role of the planets they are posited with or the lords of the houses. Suppose Ketu is with Mercury and Saturn is the lord of the house that Ketu is in. Will Ketu take on Mercury's role or will he take on Saturn's role Sreeram Comments: The nodes "assumes" the additional role of its conjunct planet. However, scriptures did not mention that Ketu would forget itself !! i.e. It partakes certain qualities of its conjunct planet in addition to itself. Example:- Chameleon assumes the colors of the

surface it is on, but it itself does not change its character or nature. Similarly Ketu adds that planet attributes that it can carry with dignity in addition to its own. Ketu + Mercury = say in Virgo, Ketu is a confusion master, whereas a whereas this exalted Mercury is intelligent and fast decision maker. The true quality of astrologer would surface when making this differentiation - where the decisions become slow, when it becomes fast in what topics or subjects......ofcourse if it is NOT difficult for steadfast person like you !!! Note: Planet reveal themselves to the those who spend quality time on them.... ThanksKiran

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My comments are in Red & Blue font

, Kiran R <kiran.rama wrote: Dear Sreeramji, Thanks for the reply - It was very good learning. Can we make a generalizations that * any malefic planet in exaltation, own house, vargottama behaves like a benefic planet. So Saturn, Sun, Mars must be treated as benefic planet for all planet based analysis if they are in exaltation, own house, vargottamaSreeram Comments:

Any malefic planet in exaltation, own house, vargottama behaves like a benefic planet, so long it does NOT OWN the dushtana or trik houses . When owning any ONE of the dustanas, in such cases, the house it is approaching or nearest would prevail if equidistant then, the will give result of the moolatrikona first. So Saturn, Sun, Mars must be treated as benefic planet for all planet based analysis if they are in exaltation, own house, vargottama

* house lord position in sustana/dustana has more prominence than benefic/malefic aspecft. So if lagna lord is in dustana it indicates weak body irresepective of benefic occupancy/aspect - which will remedy the situation lightly

Sreeram Comment : Your point is valid

One more question: If x house lord is in dustana, it is bad for the house x. But what if the planet-house ombination is good. E.g: Sun maybe lagna lord in dustana 6th house and indicate bad for lagna (rupa/looks, deha/body, siro/head) BUT "Sun in 6th house is benefic position for Sun". in this case, what should be given more prominence? Is it "house lord in dustana" or "Sun in 6th house - benefic placement for Sun"

Sreeram Comments:

If x house lord is in dustana, it is bad for the house x. But what if the planet-house ombination is good. E.g: Sun maybe lagna lord in dustana 6th house and indicate bad for lagna (rupa/looks, deha/body, siro/head) - A Valid point.

For the second statement what is the focus of observatin now ? We concluded for Lagna or Lagna Lord. If we are talking of 6HL Sun in 6H then it is OK. Here it is incorrect to use the word "benefic placement for Sun". It is a generic statement that malefics in dustanas are welcome. But natural placement of Sun preferred is Lagna & 10H. It is in this places it get maximum potency, for being natural signifcations gets enhanced. Mercury placement in 6H is very good for it is natural signficator for 6H and being placed gives tremendous power in "arguments " for 6H is litigation or court cases.

Mercury = Court Documents. Some one having a combust or retrograde Mercury should be careful in signing important documents for they can make mistakes. If you want use astrology intelligently, put a person with well placed Mercury into this job.....you will have greater success and shall free from other mistakes for being forewarned by this Mercury.

Sometimes, I get a confused feeling - Mercury is good in 3H, 6H, 8H, & 12H. All planets give good results in 11H, including, exalted or debilitated . It is taken for granted planets are good in Kendra & Trikona. then what is left for Mercury NOW ?? !!! But that is astrology. It is here that the ordinary students of astrology stop losing interest for this statements of classics, they find it hard to digest or understand......forget about application of it...... {Planets reveal to them who "chase" them....}

Ok Test the principle in your known hororscopes.....let members give their reasons for this interesting observation that Mercury association with 7H or 7HL can give raise to marital problems ?? Why ??

Thanks Kiran

[Guest guest]

Dear Sreeram ji,

 

" let members give their reasons for this interesting observation

that Mercury association with 7H or 7HL can give raise to marital

problems ?? Why ?? "

 

Before contemplating on your interesting question kindly let me know

whether this is valid when Mecury is the 7HL too? i.e. Saggitarius &

Pisces lagnas.

 

Thanks...

 

blessings

 

Renu

 

 

 

 

, " sreeram srinivas "

<sreeram64 wrote:

>

>

> My comments are in Red & Blue font

>

> , Kiran R

> <kiran.rama@> wrote:

>

> Dear Sreeramji,

>

> Thanks for the reply - It was very good learning.

>

> Can we make a generalizations that

> * any malefic planet in exaltation, own house, vargottama behaves

like a

> benefic planet. So Saturn, Sun, Mars must be treated as benefic

planet

> for all planet based analysis if they are in exaltation, own house,

> vargottama

> Sreeram Comments:

>

> Any malefic planet in exaltation, own house, vargottama behaves

like a

> benefic planet, so long it does NOT OWN the dushtana or trik

houses .

> When owning any ONE of the dustanas, in such cases, the house it

is

> approaching or nearest would prevail if equidistant then, the will

give

> result of the moolatrikona first. So Saturn, Sun, Mars must be

treated

> as benefic planet for all planet based analysis if they are in

> exaltation, own house, vargottama

>

>

> * house lord position in sustana/dustana has more prominence than

> benefic/malefic aspecft. So if lagna lord is in dustana it

indicates

> weak body irresepective of benefic occupancy/aspect - which will

remedy

> the situation lightly

>

> Sreeram Comment : Your point is valid

>

> One more question:

> If x house lord is in dustana, it is bad for the house x. But

what if

> the planet-house ombination is good. E.g: Sun maybe lagna lord in

> dustana 6th house and indicate bad for lagna (rupa/looks,

deha/body,

> siro/head) BUT " Sun in 6th house is benefic position for Sun " .

> in this case, what should be given more prominence? Is it " house

lord

> in dustana " or " Sun in 6th house - benefic placement for Sun "

>

> Sreeram Comments:

>

> If x house lord is in dustana, it is bad for the house x. But what

if

> the planet-house ombination is good. E.g: Sun maybe lagna lord in

> dustana 6th house and indicate bad for lagna (rupa/looks,

deha/body,

> siro/head) - A Valid point.

>

> For the second statement what is the focus of observatin now ? We

> concluded for Lagna or Lagna Lord. If we are talking of 6HL Sun

in 6H

> then it is OK. Here it is incorrect to use the word " benefic

> placement for Sun " . It is a generic statement that malefics in

> dustanas are welcome. But natural placement of Sun preferred is

Lagna

> & 10H. It is in this places it get maximum potency, for being

natural

> signifcations gets enhanced. Mercury placement in 6H is very

good for

> it is natural signficator for 6H and being placed gives tremendous

power

> in " arguments " for 6H is litigation or court cases.

>

> Mercury = Court Documents. Some one having a combust or

retrograde

> Mercury should be careful in signing important documents for they

can

> make mistakes. If you want use astrology intelligently, put a

person

> with well placed Mercury into this job.....you will have greater

success

> and shall free from other mistakes for being forewarned by this

Mercury.

>

> Sometimes, I get a confused feeling - Mercury is good in 3H, 6H,

8H, &

> 12H. All planets give good results in 11H, including, exalted or

> debilitated . It is taken for granted planets are good in

Kendra &

> Trikona. then what is left for Mercury NOW ?? !!! But that is

> astrology. It is here that the ordinary students of astrology

stop

> losing interest for this statements of classics, they find it hard

to

> digest or understand......forget about application of it......

{Planets

> reveal to them who " chase " them....}

>

> Ok Test the principle in your known hororscopes.....let members

give

> their reasons for this interesting observation that Mercury

association

> with 7H or 7HL can give raise to marital problems ?? Why ??

>

> Thanks

> Kiran

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Kiran ji,

==>

If x house lord is in dustana, it is bad for the house x. But what if the

planet-house combination is good. E.g: Sun maybe lagna lord in dustana 6th

house and indicate bad for lagna (rupa/looks, deha/body, siro/head) BUT

"Sun in 6th house is benefic position for Sun".

in this case, what should be given more prominence? Is it "house lord in

dustana" or "Sun in 6th house - benefic placement for Sun"

<==

Please don't give any special importance - but instead speak out

BOTH the results (both of them does apply). Also just use your common sense to

verify whether there is any "mutually contradicting" results - if so

don't speak out those results at all (but tell all the other results produced

by both those combinations)!

Note: Remember the prime rule (you are forgetting it repeatedly!)

- NO CANCELLATION OF RESUTS.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

, Kiran R <kiran.rama wrote:>> Dear Sreeramji,> > Thanks for the reply - It was very good learning.> > Can we make a generalizations that >

* any malefic planet in exaltation, own house, vargottama behaves like

a benefic planet. So Saturn, Sun, Mars must be treated as benefic

planet for all planet based analysis if they are in exaltation, own

house, vargottama> > * house lord position in

sustana/dustana has more prominence than benefic/malefic aspecft. So if

lagna lord is in dustana it indicates weak body irresepective of

benefic occupancy/aspect - which will remedy the situation lightly> > One more question:>

If x house lord is in dustana, it is bad for the house x. But what if

the planet-house combination is good. E.g: Sun maybe lagna lord in

dustana 6th house and indicate bad for lagna (rupa/looks, deha/body,

siro/head) BUT "Sun in 6th house is benefic position for Sun".>

in this case, what should be given more prominence? Is it "house lord

in dustana" or "Sun in 6th house - benefic placement for Sun"> > Thanks> Kiran> > sreeram srinivas sreeram64 wrote: > > , Kiran R kiran.rama@ wrote:> > Dear Kiran. Rama> My comments are in Red & Blue Font.> with regards,> Sreeram_Srinivas > Dear Sreenadhji/Sreeramji,> > I have some doubts on basics that are acting as roadblock in my progress > >

** Lagna lord aspect on any house is good for that house. So if lagna

lord aspects the 2nd house, it must make the native wealthy.> > DOES THIS HOLD TRUE IF LAGNA LORD IS DEBILITATED OR IN ENEMY'S HOUSE? >

In case of lagna lord being debilitated or in enemy house does it mean

that lagna lord will still bestow wealth on 2nd house by way of aspect

but the amount will be less? > Or does it mean that lagna lord

by virtue of debilitation/being posited in enemy house will cause loss

of wealth to native?> Sreeram Comment: > 1) The strength

of the LL is the determining factor. Exalted or Debilitated or own

house or normal placement accordingly the nature of its ability to earn>

2) LL aspecting 2H does NOT indicate wealth, but more of money centered

decision making or having an eye for money, debilitation increases the

hunger for money - traditional unscrupulous money lenders in villages {

recall our 1950+1960's old actor "Jeevan" who used to play the

"Munimji" role in fantastic way}.> 3) Exalted planet indicates

more adherence to norms of the society or principles, Debilitations -

principles & norms kept aside so long it makes a business sense or

brings it closer to the objective.> 4) More malefic aspect in the said conditions can indicate loss of money.> >

** Suppose I want to take a call on the overall physical appearance of

a native, I have to look at Lagna. What if lagna lord is in dustana,

malefic is in lagna and benefic planet aspects lagna?> IN THIS CASE SHOULD WE PREDICT MIXED RESULTS FOR APPEARANCE OF NATIVE?> Srinivas Comments:>

5) LL going to dustana indicates slim or delicate body. In Aries Lagna,

Mars going to 8H is may give it a "water pumped" bloated body, being in

own house gives the native a cool temperament. Such people need to

careful of toxins in their body raised due to jealousy or possessive or

typical scorpion nature. Secretive nature> Similarly for Taurus

Lagna, LL going to 6H, indicates native either opting to go for medical

field {generally good career option for Taureans in this scenario}.

Here it gives a slim body or sensitive body i.e. prone to

illness...etc...depending upon the other planetary conditions. Venus

going to is own sign, also gives resistance to fighting ability to

diseases. Self regulation.> For Libra Lagna, LL getting exalted

in 6H Pisces, may indicate native's ability to overcome his opponents {

I do not like enemies, prefer Opponents- for its sounds more positive

for in office we only have opponents - differences in opinions or

thoughts, but not really enemies} through his knowledge. Venus is

itself a Dyaita/Demon's Guru, Pisces - Jupiter sign- indicating

knowledge. It also gives irritable temper which 6H is known for. > ** What if malefic is vargottama?> Suppose malefic Saturn is vargottamma, meaning it is like Saturn is in his own house.> Does it indicate aspect by Saturn is no longer malefic and is benefic?> Srinivas Comments:>

A planet exalted or own house or in moolatrikona or vargottama, looses

its malefience . But keep focus of the House Lordship here. This is

very vital. 6HL or 8HL getting exalted may not augur well for the

native, depending upon what you or the native is looking for. There is

an article on Sri K.N. Rao's website of a "Romance of Debilitated

10HL". In the given hororoscope, the lagna is vargottam, LL is

vargottam, inspite of other debilitations, the native's career went

very vey positive. Ofcourse, the native {do not remember either this

case or different for writing from memory} did not experience Mahadasha

of the debilitated Lord, that was a saving grace, next was a

debilitated planet but vargottam, gave mixed result in a closely known

case. So there are many ways to beat debilitation. Look for Stellar

Lord disposition - well connected or placed...etc.., still will get

some good results. Need to look at the combinations, which will ensure

the debilitated> effects narrowly missing!! > > ** Will an exalted planet cause harm to the house he is in if he is malefic?>

Suppose malefic Mars is in the 7th house. He must cause celibacy being

a brahmachari or loss of wife or loss of marriage. What if Mars is

exalted in the 7th house? Will he give negative results for the 7th

house or will he give positive results for the 7th house> Sreeram Comments:>

For a Sagattarius, 6HL Venus getting exalted in 4H would do more harm,

if the issue is related to age group of 50+. Note, it is the 6HL

getting exalted or strengthened. If there is a connection with LL then

may indicate fighting abilities, but not take away the first statement

of made at begining of this para.> It is for Cancer Lagna that

Mars gets exalted in 7H i.e. Lord of 5H {Trine Lord} & 10H {Kendra

Lord}. Surely it will give good results, for it also aspects the Lagna

from there. I would predict such persons are real dare devils and

simply go ahead in extending your hands of friendship {blindly} for you

will never be disappointed. Worthy partners - friends or spouse.> > ** Shadow planets question>

Shadow planets Rahu and Ketu take on the role of the planets they are

posited with or the lords of the houses. Suppose Ketu is with Mercury

and Saturn is the lord of the house that Ketu is in. Will Ketu take on

Mercury's role or will he take on Saturn's role> > Sreeram Comments:>

The nodes "assumes" the additional role of its conjunct planet.

However, scriptures did not mention that Ketu would forget itself !!

i.e. It partakes certain qualities of its conjunct planet in addition

to itself. > Example:- Chameleon assumes the colors of the surface it is on, but it itself does not change its character or nature. >

Similarly Ketu adds that planet attributes that it can carry with

dignity in addition to its own. Ketu + Mercury = say in Virgo, Ketu is

a confusion master, whereas a whereas this exalted Mercury is

intelligent and fast decision maker. The true quality of astrologer

would surface when making this differentiation - where the decisions

become slow, when it becomes fast in what topics or

subjects......ofcourse if it is NOT difficult for steadfast person like

you !!!> Note: Planet reveal themselves to the those who spend quality time on them....> Thanks> Kiran> > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now>

[Guest guest]

Dear Kiran ji,

I felt like going a bit more deeper into your query to clarify it

further -

Eg: Lagna lord Sun in 6th.

This example covers both your conditions, such

as -

* Lagna lord in Dustana (but why you took it, instead of

Lagna lord in 6th? Mixing generalization with 7-fold! OK. But still let us go

for it)

* Sun in 6th house.

Results for Lagna lord in Dustana

--------

If the lagna lord is in Dustana - prison life, hiding from authorities,

court cases and warrants, fear, diseases, agitated mind, indulging in

unnecessary things, loss of position or change of location, accidents etc

results.

Results for Sun in 6th house

--------------------------------

If sun is in 6th the native would be an intelligent person,

with occult beliefs, leading a gang, having his own secret methods

to win over the situations, fighting always with many enemies (including

government and others), but still will manage to survive all those

attacks. He will have special attachment towards his mother. He would

be a popular and affluent person with the power of his good or bad

deeds. Diseases such as fever, acidity, bile are liver related troubles etc

is a possibility. Having good digestive power he may be a person with

special interest in non-vegetarian food and liquor. The father of the

native will be a weak person, suffering from some kind of health problem.

 

Now - what

is your problem here is speaking out both these results?!! Drop the 'too

much generalizations' & 'trying to build on secondaries' and come to

results - and LOOK THROGH THE RESULTS - that is the path of practical

astrology, that is th path of 7-fold methodology!

Note: Note that most the above results for Lagna lord (here sun) in 6th,

and Sun in 6th are complementary and not contradictory (if among the many

results stated above, any of the results is contradictory, just drop that

result alone and speak out all the others). It is simple and straight!

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

 

, "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:Dear Kiran ji,

==>

If x house lord is in dustana, it is bad for the house x. But what if the

planet-house combination is good. E.g: Sun maybe lagna lord in dustana 6th

house and indicate bad for lagna (rupa/looks, deha/body, siro/head) BUT

"Sun in 6th house is benefic position for Sun".

in this case, what should be given more prominence? Is it "house lord in

dustana" or "Sun in 6th house - benefic placement for Sun"

<==

Please don't give any special importance - but instead speak out

BOTH the results (both of them does apply). Also just use your common sense to

verify whether there is any "mutually contradicting" results - if so

don't speak out those results at all (but tell all the other results produced

by both those combinations)!

Note: Remember the prime rule (you are forgetting it repeatedly!)

- NO CANCELLATION OF RESUTS.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh> , Kiran R> kiran.rama@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sreeramji,> >> > Thanks for the reply - It was very good learning.> >> > Can we make a generalizations that> > * any malefic planet in exaltation, own house, vargottama behaves like> a benefic planet. So Saturn, Sun, Mars must be treated as benefic planet> for all planet based analysis if they are in exaltation, own house,> vargottama> >> > * house lord position in sustana/dustana has more prominence than> benefic/malefic aspecft. So if lagna lord is in dustana it indicates> weak body irresepective of benefic occupancy/aspect - which will remedy> the situation lightly> >> > One more question:> > If x house lord is in dustana, it is bad for the house x. But what if> the planet-house combination is good. E.g: Sun maybe lagna lord in> dustana 6th house and indicate bad for lagna (rupa/looks, deha/body,> siro/head) BUT "Sun in 6th house is benefic position for Sun".> > in this case, what should be given more prominence? Is it "house lord> in dustana" or "Sun in 6th house - benefic placement for Sun"> >> > Thanks> > Kiran> >> > sreeram srinivas sreeram64@ wrote:> >> > , Kiran R kiran.rama@> wrote:> >> > Dear Kiran. Rama> > My comments are in Red & Blue Font.> > with regards,> > Sreeram_Srinivas> > Dear Sreenadhji/Sreeramji,> >> > I have some doubts on basics that are acting as roadblock in my> progress> >> > ** Lagna lord aspect on any house is good for that house. So if lagna> lord aspects the 2nd house, it must make the native wealthy.> >> > DOES THIS HOLD TRUE IF LAGNA LORD IS DEBILITATED OR IN ENEMY'S HOUSE?> > In case of lagna lord being debilitated or in enemy house does it mean> that lagna lord will still bestow wealth on 2nd house by way of aspect> but the amount will be less?> > Or does it mean that lagna lord by virtue of debilitation/being> posited in enemy house will cause loss of wealth to native?> > Sreeram Comment:> > 1) The strength of the LL is the determining factor. Exalted or> Debilitated or own house or normal placement accordingly the nature of> its ability to earn> > 2) LL aspecting 2H does NOT indicate wealth, but more of money> centered decision making or having an eye for money, debilitation> increases the hunger for money - traditional unscrupulous money lenders> in villages { recall our 1950+1960's old actor "Jeevan" who used to play> the "Munimji" role in fantastic way}.> > 3) Exalted planet indicates more adherence to norms of the society or> principles, Debilitations - principles & norms kept aside so long it> makes a business sense or brings it closer to the objective.> > 4) More malefic aspect in the said conditions can indicate loss of> money.> >> > ** Suppose I want to take a call on the overall physical appearance of> a native, I have to look at Lagna. What if lagna lord is in dustana,> malefic is in lagna and benefic planet aspects lagna?> > IN THIS CASE SHOULD WE PREDICT MIXED RESULTS FOR APPEARANCE OF> NATIVE?> > Srinivas Comments:> > 5) LL going to dustana indicates slim or delicate body. In Aries> Lagna, Mars going to 8H is may give it a "water pumped" bloated body,> being in own house gives the native a cool temperament. Such people need> to careful of toxins in their body raised due to jealousy or possessive> or typical scorpion nature. Secretive nature> > Similarly for Taurus Lagna, LL going to 6H, indicates native either> opting to go for medical field {generally good career option for> Taureans in this scenario}. Here it gives a slim body or sensitive body> i.e. prone to illness...etc...depending upon the other planetary> conditions. Venus going to is own sign, also gives resistance to> fighting ability to diseases. Self regulation.> > For Libra Lagna, LL getting exalted in 6H Pisces, may indicate> native's ability to overcome his opponents { I do not like enemies,> prefer Opponents- for its sounds more positive for in office we only> have opponents - differences in opinions or thoughts, but not really> enemies} through his knowledge. Venus is itself a Dyaita/Demon's Guru,> Pisces - Jupiter sign- indicating knowledge. It also gives irritable> temper which 6H is known for.> > ** What if malefic is vargottama?> > Suppose malefic Saturn is vargottamma, meaning it is like Saturn is> in his own house.> > Does it indicate aspect by Saturn is no longer malefic and is> benefic?> > Srinivas Comments:> > A planet exalted or own house or in moolatrikona or vargottama, looses> its malefience . But keep focus of the House Lordship here. This is very> vital. 6HL or 8HL getting exalted may not augur well for the native,> depending upon what you or the native is looking for. There is an> article on Sri K.N. Rao's website of a "Romance of Debilitated 10HL". In> the given hororoscope, the lagna is vargottam, LL is vargottam, inspite> of other debilitations, the native's career went very vey positive.> Ofcourse, the native {do not remember either this case or different for> writing from memory} did not experience Mahadasha of the debilitated> Lord, that was a saving grace, next was a debilitated planet but> vargottam, gave mixed result in a closely known case. So there are many> ways to beat debilitation. Look for Stellar Lord disposition - well> connected or placed...etc.., still will get some good results. Need to> look at the combinations, which will ensure the debilitated> > effects narrowly missing!!> >> > ** Will an exalted planet cause harm to the house he is in if he is> malefic?> > Suppose malefic Mars is in the 7th house. He must cause celibacy being> a brahmachari or loss of wife or loss of marriage. What if Mars is> exalted in the 7th house? Will he give negative results for the 7th> house or will he give positive results for the 7th house> > Sreeram Comments:> > For a Sagattarius, 6HL Venus getting exalted in 4H would do more harm,> if the issue is related to age group of 50+. Note, it is the 6HL getting> exalted or strengthened. If there is a connection with LL then may> indicate fighting abilities, but not take away the first statement of> made at begining of this para.> > It is for Cancer Lagna that Mars gets exalted in 7H i.e. Lord of 5H> {Trine Lord} & 10H {Kendra Lord}. Surely it will give good results, for> it also aspects the Lagna from there. I would predict such persons are> real dare devils and simply go ahead in extending your hands of> friendship {blindly} for you will never be disappointed. Worthy partners> - friends or spouse.> >> > ** Shadow planets question> > Shadow planets Rahu and Ketu take on the role of the planets they are> posited with or the lords of the houses. Suppose Ketu is with Mercury> and Saturn is the lord of the house that Ketu is in. Will Ketu take on> Mercury's role or will he take on Saturn's role> >> > Sreeram Comments:> > The nodes "assumes" the additional role of its conjunct planet.> However, scriptures did not mention that Ketu would forget itself !!> i.e. It partakes certain qualities of its conjunct planet in addition to> itself.> > Example:- Chameleon assumes the colors of the surface it is on, but> it itself does not change its character or nature.> > Similarly Ketu adds that planet attributes that it can carry with> dignity in addition to its own. Ketu + Mercury = say in Virgo, Ketu is a> confusion master, whereas a whereas this exalted Mercury is intelligent> and fast decision maker. The true quality of astrologer would surface> when making this differentiation - where the decisions become slow, when> it becomes fast in what topics or subjects......ofcourse if it is NOT> difficult for steadfast person like you !!!> > Note: Planet reveal themselves to the those who spend quality time> on them....> > Thanks> > Kiran> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now> >>

[Guest guest]

Om Namah Shivaye..

 

Namaste ji..

 

For all dual lagnas, (Pisces, Sag, Virgo, Gemini) the 7th house is

badaka-stan.and 7th lord is afflicted.. therefore causes problems in

relationships.

 

With Sagitarius and Pisces lagna, the 7L is also Mercury suffering

badaka affliction, placed in afflicted badaka-stan.

 

The 7H is also the marana karaka stan for both Mercury and Mars..

 

2H and 7H lords and planets placed in this house, also Marana

planets, reducing life expectancy..

 

Besides all that.. Mercury has a dualistic nature therfore total

commitment to marriage is hard to achieve.. Mercury in pisces and

sagitarius lagnas give Badra yoga, which give sweet speech, good

communication skills and generally these people are well-liked.. this

puts a lot of temptation in the natives path... and if commitment is

lacking,, the marriage suffers..

 

regards

Sheevani

 

 

, " renunw "

<renunw wrote:

>

> Dear Sreeram ji,

>

> " let members give their reasons for this interesting observation

> that Mercury association with 7H or 7HL can give raise to marital

> problems ?? Why ?? "

>

> Before contemplating on your interesting question kindly let me

know

> whether this is valid when Mecury is the 7HL too? i.e. Saggitarius

&

> Pisces lagnas.

>

> Thanks...

>

> blessings

>

> Renu

>

>

>

>

> , " sreeram srinivas "

> <sreeram64@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > My comments are in Red & Blue font

> >

> > , Kiran R

> > <kiran.rama@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sreeramji,

> >

> > Thanks for the reply - It was very good learning.

> >

> > Can we make a generalizations that

> > * any malefic planet in exaltation, own house, vargottama behaves

> like a

> > benefic planet. So Saturn, Sun, Mars must be treated as benefic

> planet

> > for all planet based analysis if they are in exaltation, own

house,

> > vargottama

> > Sreeram Comments:

> >

> > Any malefic planet in exaltation, own house, vargottama behaves

> like a

> > benefic planet, so long it does NOT OWN the dushtana or trik

> houses .

> > When owning any ONE of the dustanas, in such cases, the house it

> is

> > approaching or nearest would prevail if equidistant then, the

will

> give

> > result of the moolatrikona first. So Saturn, Sun, Mars must be

> treated

> > as benefic planet for all planet based analysis if they are in

> > exaltation, own house, vargottama

> >

> >

> > * house lord position in sustana/dustana has more prominence

than

> > benefic/malefic aspecft. So if lagna lord is in dustana it

> indicates

> > weak body irresepective of benefic occupancy/aspect - which will

> remedy

> > the situation lightly

> >

> > Sreeram Comment : Your point is valid

> >

> > One more question:

> > If x house lord is in dustana, it is bad for the house x. But

> what if

> > the planet-house ombination is good. E.g: Sun maybe lagna lord in

> > dustana 6th house and indicate bad for lagna (rupa/looks,

> deha/body,

> > siro/head) BUT " Sun in 6th house is benefic position for Sun " .

> > in this case, what should be given more prominence? Is

it " house

> lord

> > in dustana " or " Sun in 6th house - benefic placement for Sun "

> >

> > Sreeram Comments:

> >

> > If x house lord is in dustana, it is bad for the house x. But

what

> if

> > the planet-house ombination is good. E.g: Sun maybe lagna lord in

> > dustana 6th house and indicate bad for lagna (rupa/looks,

> deha/body,

> > siro/head) - A Valid point.

> >

> > For the second statement what is the focus of observatin now ? We

> > concluded for Lagna or Lagna Lord. If we are talking of 6HL Sun

> in 6H

> > then it is OK. Here it is incorrect to use the word " benefic

> > placement for Sun " . It is a generic statement that malefics in

> > dustanas are welcome. But natural placement of Sun preferred is

> Lagna

> > & 10H. It is in this places it get maximum potency, for being

> natural

> > signifcations gets enhanced. Mercury placement in 6H is very

> good for

> > it is natural signficator for 6H and being placed gives

tremendous

> power

> > in " arguments " for 6H is litigation or court cases.

> >

> > Mercury = Court Documents. Some one having a combust or

> retrograde

> > Mercury should be careful in signing important documents for they

> can

> > make mistakes. If you want use astrology intelligently, put a

> person

> > with well placed Mercury into this job.....you will have greater

> success

> > and shall free from other mistakes for being forewarned by this

> Mercury.

> >

> > Sometimes, I get a confused feeling - Mercury is good in 3H, 6H,

> 8H, &

> > 12H. All planets give good results in 11H, including, exalted or

> > debilitated . It is taken for granted planets are good in

> Kendra &

> > Trikona. then what is left for Mercury NOW ?? !!! But that is

> > astrology. It is here that the ordinary students of astrology

> stop

> > losing interest for this statements of classics, they find it

hard

> to

> > digest or understand......forget about application of it......

> {Planets

> > reveal to them who " chase " them....}

> >

> > Ok Test the principle in your known hororscopes.....let members

> give

> > their reasons for this interesting observation that Mercury

> association

> > with 7H or 7HL can give raise to marital problems ?? Why ??

> >

> > Thanks

> > Kiran

> >

>

[Guest guest]

OM NAMAH SHIVAYE

 

Namaste ji..

 

May I also add to my previous mail about mercury in respect to the

7H..

 

Mercury is also a functional malefic for the following lagnas..

Aries, Cancer, Leo, Scopio , Pisces..

 

For Sagitarius and Pisces lagnas, mercury is also afflicted being a

benefic owning kendras (kendraadhipati dosha)

 

Mercury's dualistic(indecision) and restless(mental) emergies are not

condusive to a stable realtionship.. Badra Mahapurusha yoga doesnt

help matters of marriage though it is a wonderful yoga for the

native..

 

These are as per my understanding, but I may be wrong.. Please

correct as necessary..

 

respectfully

Sheevani

 

, " sheevani147 "

<sheevani147 wrote:

>

> Om Namah Shivaye..

>

> Namaste ji..

>

> For all dual lagnas, (Pisces, Sag, Virgo, Gemini) the 7th house is

> badaka-stan.and 7th lord is afflicted.. therefore causes problems

in

> relationships.

>

> With Sagitarius and Pisces lagna, the 7L is also Mercury suffering

> badaka affliction, placed in afflicted badaka-stan.

>

> The 7H is also the marana karaka stan for both Mercury and Mars..

>

> 2H and 7H lords and planets placed in this house, also Marana

> planets, reducing life expectancy..

>

> Besides all that.. Mercury has a dualistic nature therfore total

> commitment to marriage is hard to achieve.. Mercury in pisces and

> sagitarius lagnas give Badra yoga, which give sweet speech, good

> communication skills and generally these people are well-liked..

this

> puts a lot of temptation in the natives path... and if commitment

is

> lacking,, the marriage suffers..

>

> regards

> Sheevani

>

>

> , " renunw "

> <renunw@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sreeram ji,

> >

> > " let members give their reasons for this interesting observation

> > that Mercury association with 7H or 7HL can give raise to marital

> > problems ?? Why ?? "

> >

> > Before contemplating on your interesting question kindly let me

> know

> > whether this is valid when Mecury is the 7HL too? i.e.

Saggitarius

> &

> > Pisces lagnas.

> >

> > Thanks...

> >

> > blessings

> >

> > Renu

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " sreeram

srinivas "

> > <sreeram64@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > My comments are in Red & Blue font

> > >

> > > , Kiran R

> > > <kiran.rama@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sreeramji,

> > >

> > > Thanks for the reply - It was very good learning.

> > >

> > > Can we make a generalizations that

> > > * any malefic planet in exaltation, own house, vargottama

behaves

> > like a

> > > benefic planet. So Saturn, Sun, Mars must be treated as benefic

> > planet

> > > for all planet based analysis if they are in exaltation, own

> house,

> > > vargottama

> > > Sreeram Comments:

> > >

> > > Any malefic planet in exaltation, own house, vargottama behaves

> > like a

> > > benefic planet, so long it does NOT OWN the dushtana or trik

> > houses .

> > > When owning any ONE of the dustanas, in such cases, the house

it

> > is

> > > approaching or nearest would prevail if equidistant then, the

> will

> > give

> > > result of the moolatrikona first. So Saturn, Sun, Mars must

be

> > treated

> > > as benefic planet for all planet based analysis if they are in

> > > exaltation, own house, vargottama

> > >

> > >

> > > * house lord position in sustana/dustana has more prominence

> than

> > > benefic/malefic aspecft. So if lagna lord is in dustana it

> > indicates

> > > weak body irresepective of benefic occupancy/aspect - which

will

> > remedy

> > > the situation lightly

> > >

> > > Sreeram Comment : Your point is valid

> > >

> > > One more question:

> > > If x house lord is in dustana, it is bad for the house x. But

> > what if

> > > the planet-house ombination is good. E.g: Sun maybe lagna lord

in

> > > dustana 6th house and indicate bad for lagna (rupa/looks,

> > deha/body,

> > > siro/head) BUT " Sun in 6th house is benefic position for Sun " .

> > > in this case, what should be given more prominence? Is

> it " house

> > lord

> > > in dustana " or " Sun in 6th house - benefic placement for Sun "

> > >

> > > Sreeram Comments:

> > >

> > > If x house lord is in dustana, it is bad for the house x. But

> what

> > if

> > > the planet-house ombination is good. E.g: Sun maybe lagna lord

in

> > > dustana 6th house and indicate bad for lagna (rupa/looks,

> > deha/body,

> > > siro/head) - A Valid point.

> > >

> > > For the second statement what is the focus of observatin now ?

We

> > > concluded for Lagna or Lagna Lord. If we are talking of 6HL

Sun

> > in 6H

> > > then it is OK. Here it is incorrect to use the word " benefic

> > > placement for Sun " . It is a generic statement that malefics

in

> > > dustanas are welcome. But natural placement of Sun preferred

is

> > Lagna

> > > & 10H. It is in this places it get maximum potency, for being

> > natural

> > > signifcations gets enhanced. Mercury placement in 6H is very

> > good for

> > > it is natural signficator for 6H and being placed gives

> tremendous

> > power

> > > in " arguments " for 6H is litigation or court cases.

> > >

> > > Mercury = Court Documents. Some one having a combust or

> > retrograde

> > > Mercury should be careful in signing important documents for

they

> > can

> > > make mistakes. If you want use astrology intelligently, put

a

> > person

> > > with well placed Mercury into this job.....you will have

greater

> > success

> > > and shall free from other mistakes for being forewarned by this

> > Mercury.

> > >

> > > Sometimes, I get a confused feeling - Mercury is good in 3H,

6H,

> > 8H, &

> > > 12H. All planets give good results in 11H, including, exalted or

> > > debilitated . It is taken for granted planets are good in

> > Kendra &

> > > Trikona. then what is left for Mercury NOW ?? !!! But that is

> > > astrology. It is here that the ordinary students of astrology

> > stop

> > > losing interest for this statements of classics, they find it

> hard

> > to

> > > digest or understand......forget about application of it......

> > {Planets

> > > reveal to them who " chase " them....}

> > >

> > > Ok Test the principle in your known hororscopes.....let members

> > give

> > > their reasons for this interesting observation that Mercury

> > association

> > > with 7H or 7HL can give raise to marital problems ?? Why ??

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Kiran

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sreeram ji,

 

" Mercury association with 7H or 7HL can give raise to marital

problems ?? Why ?? "

 

Mercury is the 6HL of the kalapurusha. Hence the association with

7HL leads to marital issues. That is the answer to your query.

 

I wonder whether you taught me earlier...that is if my answer is

correct.

 

blessings

 

Renu

 

 

 

-- In , " sreeram srinivas "

<sreeram64 wrote:

>

>

> My comments are in Red & Blue font

>

> , Kiran R

> <kiran.rama@> wrote:

>

> Dear Sreeramji,

>

> Thanks for the reply - It was very good learning.

>

> Can we make a generalizations that

> * any malefic planet in exaltation, own house, vargottama behaves

like a

> benefic planet. So Saturn, Sun, Mars must be treated as benefic

planet

> for all planet based analysis if they are in exaltation, own house,

> vargottama

> Sreeram Comments:

>

> Any malefic planet in exaltation, own house, vargottama behaves

like a

> benefic planet, so long it does NOT OWN the dushtana or trik

houses .

> When owning any ONE of the dustanas, in such cases, the house it

is

> approaching or nearest would prevail if equidistant then, the will

give

> result of the moolatrikona first. So Saturn, Sun, Mars must be

treated

> as benefic planet for all planet based analysis if they are in

> exaltation, own house, vargottama

>

>

> * house lord position in sustana/dustana has more prominence than

> benefic/malefic aspecft. So if lagna lord is in dustana it

indicates

> weak body irresepective of benefic occupancy/aspect - which will

remedy

> the situation lightly

>

> Sreeram Comment : Your point is valid

>

> One more question:

> If x house lord is in dustana, it is bad for the house x. But

what if

> the planet-house ombination is good. E.g: Sun maybe lagna lord in

> dustana 6th house and indicate bad for lagna (rupa/looks,

deha/body,

> siro/head) BUT " Sun in 6th house is benefic position for Sun " .

> in this case, what should be given more prominence? Is it " house

lord

> in dustana " or " Sun in 6th house - benefic placement for Sun "

>

> Sreeram Comments:

>

> If x house lord is in dustana, it is bad for the house x. But what

if

> the planet-house ombination is good. E.g: Sun maybe lagna lord in

> dustana 6th house and indicate bad for lagna (rupa/looks,

deha/body,

> siro/head) - A Valid point.

>

> For the second statement what is the focus of observatin now ? We

> concluded for Lagna or Lagna Lord. If we are talking of 6HL Sun

in 6H

> then it is OK. Here it is incorrect to use the word " benefic

> placement for Sun " . It is a generic statement that malefics in

> dustanas are welcome. But natural placement of Sun preferred is

Lagna

> & 10H. It is in this places it get maximum potency, for being

natural

> signifcations gets enhanced. Mercury placement in 6H is very

good for

> it is natural signficator for 6H and being placed gives tremendous

power

> in " arguments " for 6H is litigation or court cases.

>

> Mercury = Court Documents. Some one having a combust or

retrograde

> Mercury should be careful in signing important documents for they

can

> make mistakes. If you want use astrology intelligently, put a

person

> with well placed Mercury into this job.....you will have greater

success

> and shall free from other mistakes for being forewarned by this

Mercury.

>

> Sometimes, I get a confused feeling - Mercury is good in 3H, 6H,

8H, &

> 12H. All planets give good results in 11H, including, exalted or

> debilitated . It is taken for granted planets are good in

Kendra &

> Trikona. then what is left for Mercury NOW ?? !!! But that is

> astrology. It is here that the ordinary students of astrology

stop

> losing interest for this statements of classics, they find it hard

to

> digest or understand......forget about application of it......

{Planets

> reveal to them who " chase " them....}

>

> Ok Test the principle in your known hororscopes.....let members

give

> their reasons for this interesting observation that Mercury

association

> with 7H or 7HL can give raise to marital problems ?? Why ??

>

> Thanks

> Kiran

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Shivani ji,

I have a simple question - Which text told you to consider Badhaka stana in Natal Chart?!! That

is Prasna only method as put forward by Prasnamarga and similar texts

on Prasna!! Since this badhaka stana concpet comes from Kerala school -

you should know that not even the direct student tradition of the

auther of Prasnamarga DOES NOT use it in natal chart - and DOES NOT ask

us to do so as well!!

Please quote your references while stating such things as if authentic!

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

, "sheevani147" <sheevani147 wrote:>> Om Namah Shivaye..> > Namaste ji..> > For all dual lagnas, (Pisces, Sag, Virgo, Gemini) the 7th house is > badaka-stan.and 7th lord is afflicted.. therefore causes problems in > relationships.> > With Sagitarius and Pisces lagna, the 7L is also Mercury suffering > badaka affliction, placed in afflicted badaka-stan.> > The 7H is also the marana karaka stan for both Mercury and Mars..> > 2H and 7H lords and planets placed in this house, also Marana > planets, reducing life expectancy..> > Besides all that.. Mercury has a dualistic nature therfore total > commitment to marriage is hard to achieve.. Mercury in pisces and > sagitarius lagnas give Badra yoga, which give sweet speech, good > communication skills and generally these people are well-liked.. this > puts a lot of temptation in the natives path... and if commitment is > lacking,, the marriage suffers..> > regards> Sheevani> > > , "renunw" > renunw@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sreeram ji,> > > > "let members give their reasons for this interesting observation > > that Mercury association with 7H or 7HL can give raise to marital > > problems ?? Why ??"> > > > Before contemplating on your interesting question kindly let me > know > > whether this is valid when Mecury is the 7HL too? i.e. Saggitarius > & > > Pisces lagnas.> > > > Thanks...> > > > blessings> > > > Renu> > > > > > > > > > , "sreeram srinivas" > > <sreeram64@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > My comments are in Red & Blue font> > > > > > , Kiran R> > > <kiran.rama@> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Sreeramji,> > > > > > Thanks for the reply - It was very good learning.> > > > > > Can we make a generalizations that> > > * any malefic planet in exaltation, own house, vargottama behaves > > like a> > > benefic planet. So Saturn, Sun, Mars must be treated as benefic > > planet> > > for all planet based analysis if they are in exaltation, own > house,> > > vargottama> > > Sreeram Comments:> > > > > > Any malefic planet in exaltation, own house, vargottama behaves > > like a> > > benefic planet, so long it does NOT OWN the dushtana or trik > > houses . > > > When owning any ONE of the dustanas, in such cases, the house it > > is> > > approaching or nearest would prevail if equidistant then, the > will > > give> > > result of the moolatrikona first. So Saturn, Sun, Mars must be > > treated> > > as benefic planet for all planet based analysis if they are in> > > exaltation, own house, vargottama> > > > > > > > > * house lord position in sustana/dustana has more prominence > than> > > benefic/malefic aspecft. So if lagna lord is in dustana it > > indicates> > > weak body irresepective of benefic occupancy/aspect - which will > > remedy> > > the situation lightly> > > > > > Sreeram Comment : Your point is valid> > > > > > One more question:> > > If x house lord is in dustana, it is bad for the house x. But > > what if> > > the planet-house ombination is good. E.g: Sun maybe lagna lord in> > > dustana 6th house and indicate bad for lagna (rupa/looks, > > deha/body,> > > siro/head) BUT "Sun in 6th house is benefic position for Sun".> > > in this case, what should be given more prominence? Is > it "house > > lord> > > in dustana" or "Sun in 6th house - benefic placement for Sun"> > > > > > Sreeram Comments:> > > > > > If x house lord is in dustana, it is bad for the house x. But > what > > if> > > the planet-house ombination is good. E.g: Sun maybe lagna lord in> > > dustana 6th house and indicate bad for lagna (rupa/looks, > > deha/body,> > > siro/head) - A Valid point.> > > > > > For the second statement what is the focus of observatin now ? We> > > concluded for Lagna or Lagna Lord. If we are talking of 6HL Sun > > in 6H> > > then it is OK. Here it is incorrect to use the word "benefic> > > placement for Sun". It is a generic statement that malefics in> > > dustanas are welcome. But natural placement of Sun preferred is > > Lagna> > > & 10H. It is in this places it get maximum potency, for being > > natural> > > signifcations gets enhanced. Mercury placement in 6H is very > > good for> > > it is natural signficator for 6H and being placed gives > tremendous > > power> > > in "arguments " for 6H is litigation or court cases.> > > > > > Mercury = Court Documents. Some one having a combust or > > retrograde> > > Mercury should be careful in signing important documents for they > > can> > > make mistakes. If you want use astrology intelligently, put a > > person> > > with well placed Mercury into this job.....you will have greater > > success> > > and shall free from other mistakes for being forewarned by this > > Mercury.> > > > > > Sometimes, I get a confused feeling - Mercury is good in 3H, 6H, > > 8H, & > > > 12H. All planets give good results in 11H, including, exalted or> > > debilitated . It is taken for granted planets are good in > > Kendra & > > > Trikona. then what is left for Mercury NOW ?? !!! But that is> > > astrology. It is here that the ordinary students of astrology > > stop> > > losing interest for this statements of classics, they find it > hard > > to> > > digest or understand......forget about application of it...... > > {Planets> > > reveal to them who "chase" them....}> > > > > > Ok Test the principle in your known hororscopes.....let members > > give> > > their reasons for this interesting observation that Mercury > > association> > > with 7H or 7HL can give raise to marital problems ?? Why ??> > > > > > Thanks> > > Kiran> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Shivani ji,

Again which texts guids you to take 'Kendradhipya dosha' in normal prediction?!!! Kendradhiptya

dosha is a concept put forward by 'Jataka Chandrika' (also known as Udu

daya pradeepa and Leghu Parasari), and it directs us to use the conept

ONLY for determining Dasa-Antara that may cause 'death' and also ONLY

to be used along with Vimsottari Dasa for that specific purpose (of death period determination). I wonder from where you got all these absurd and out of context concepts!

Please know the context of each principle first - and try

to use them in the way directed by the original authers who put forward

those concepts!! Without this basic understanding how can we proceed in

our study?

If we are not at all bothered about the context - how can the approach

be termed sincere?!! Please look back and start from the basics.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

, "sheevani147" <sheevani147 wrote:>> OM NAMAH SHIVAYE> > Namaste ji..> > May I also add to my previous mail about mercury in respect to the > 7H..> > Mercury is also a functional malefic for the following lagnas..> Aries, Cancer, Leo, Scopio , Pisces..> > For Sagitarius and Pisces lagnas, mercury is also afflicted being a > benefic owning kendras (kendraadhipati dosha)> > Mercury's dualistic(indecision) and restless(mental) emergies are not > condusive to a stable realtionship.. Badra Mahapurusha yoga doesnt > help matters of marriage though it is a wonderful yoga for the > native..> > These are as per my understanding, but I may be wrong.. Please > correct as necessary..> > respectfully> Sheevani> > , "sheevani147" > sheevani147@ wrote:> >> > Om Namah Shivaye..> > > > Namaste ji..> > > > For all dual lagnas, (Pisces, Sag, Virgo, Gemini) the 7th house is > > badaka-stan.and 7th lord is afflicted.. therefore causes problems > in > > relationships.> > > > With Sagitarius and Pisces lagna, the 7L is also Mercury suffering > > badaka affliction, placed in afflicted badaka-stan.> > > > The 7H is also the marana karaka stan for both Mercury and Mars..> > > > 2H and 7H lords and planets placed in this house, also Marana > > planets, reducing life expectancy..> > > > Besides all that.. Mercury has a dualistic nature therfore total > > commitment to marriage is hard to achieve.. Mercury in pisces and > > sagitarius lagnas give Badra yoga, which give sweet speech, good > > communication skills and generally these people are well-liked.. > this > > puts a lot of temptation in the natives path... and if commitment > is > > lacking,, the marriage suffers..> > > > regards> > Sheevani> > > > > > , "renunw" > > <renunw@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sreeram ji,> > > > > > "let members give their reasons for this interesting observation > > > that Mercury association with 7H or 7HL can give raise to marital > > > problems ?? Why ??"> > > > > > Before contemplating on your interesting question kindly let me > > know > > > whether this is valid when Mecury is the 7HL too? i.e. > Saggitarius > > & > > > Pisces lagnas.> > > > > > Thanks...> > > > > > blessings> > > > > > Renu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "sreeram > srinivas" > > > <sreeram64@> wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > My comments are in Red & Blue font> > > > > > > > , Kiran R> > > > <kiran.rama@> wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Sreeramji,> > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply - It was very good learning.> > > > > > > > Can we make a generalizations that> > > > * any malefic planet in exaltation, own house, vargottama > behaves > > > like a> > > > benefic planet. So Saturn, Sun, Mars must be treated as benefic > > > planet> > > > for all planet based analysis if they are in exaltation, own > > house,> > > > vargottama> > > > Sreeram Comments:> > > > > > > > Any malefic planet in exaltation, own house, vargottama behaves > > > like a> > > > benefic planet, so long it does NOT OWN the dushtana or trik > > > houses . > > > > When owning any ONE of the dustanas, in such cases, the house > it > > > is> > > > approaching or nearest would prevail if equidistant then, the > > will > > > give> > > > result of the moolatrikona first. So Saturn, Sun, Mars must > be > > > treated> > > > as benefic planet for all planet based analysis if they are in> > > > exaltation, own house, vargottama> > > > > > > > > > > > * house lord position in sustana/dustana has more prominence > > than> > > > benefic/malefic aspecft. So if lagna lord is in dustana it > > > indicates> > > > weak body irresepective of benefic occupancy/aspect - which > will > > > remedy> > > > the situation lightly> > > > > > > > Sreeram Comment : Your point is valid> > > > > > > > One more question:> > > > If x house lord is in dustana, it is bad for the house x. But > > > what if> > > > the planet-house ombination is good. E.g: Sun maybe lagna lord > in> > > > dustana 6th house and indicate bad for lagna (rupa/looks, > > > deha/body,> > > > siro/head) BUT "Sun in 6th house is benefic position for Sun".> > > > in this case, what should be given more prominence? Is > > it "house > > > lord> > > > in dustana" or "Sun in 6th house - benefic placement for Sun"> > > > > > > > Sreeram Comments:> > > > > > > > If x house lord is in dustana, it is bad for the house x. But > > what > > > if> > > > the planet-house ombination is good. E.g: Sun maybe lagna lord > in> > > > dustana 6th house and indicate bad for lagna (rupa/looks, > > > deha/body,> > > > siro/head) - A Valid point.> > > > > > > > For the second statement what is the focus of observatin now ? > We> > > > concluded for Lagna or Lagna Lord. If we are talking of 6HL > Sun > > > in 6H> > > > then it is OK. Here it is incorrect to use the word "benefic> > > > placement for Sun". It is a generic statement that malefics > in> > > > dustanas are welcome. But natural placement of Sun preferred > is > > > Lagna> > > > & 10H. It is in this places it get maximum potency, for being > > > natural> > > > signifcations gets enhanced. Mercury placement in 6H is very > > > good for> > > > it is natural signficator for 6H and being placed gives > > tremendous > > > power> > > > in "arguments " for 6H is litigation or court cases.> > > > > > > > Mercury = Court Documents. Some one having a combust or > > > retrograde> > > > Mercury should be careful in signing important documents for > they > > > can> > > > make mistakes. If you want use astrology intelligently, put > a > > > person> > > > with well placed Mercury into this job.....you will have > greater > > > success> > > > and shall free from other mistakes for being forewarned by this > > > Mercury.> > > > > > > > Sometimes, I get a confused feeling - Mercury is good in 3H, > 6H, > > > 8H, & > > > > 12H. All planets give good results in 11H, including, exalted or> > > > debilitated . It is taken for granted planets are good in > > > Kendra & > > > > Trikona. then what is left for Mercury NOW ?? !!! But that is> > > > astrology. It is here that the ordinary students of astrology > > > stop> > > > losing interest for this statements of classics, they find it > > hard > > > to> > > > digest or understand......forget about application of it...... > > > {Planets> > > > reveal to them who "chase" them....}> > > > > > > > Ok Test the principle in your known hororscopes.....let members > > > give> > > > their reasons for this interesting observation that Mercury > > > association> > > > with 7H or 7HL can give raise to marital problems ?? Why ??> > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > Kiran> > > >> > >> >>