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Dear all,

 

Sometime back Shreenadh provided an aphorism to predict the job of a

native.

 

> <==

> One of the major method to determine the job of a native

is " Karmesasya

> Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida " (Phaladeepika)

meaning, " the

> job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa lord

of the

> 10th house lord from Natal lagna "

 

Of course, there are caveats to this as he explained in message no.

5778.

 

i now have a " handsome " collection of 3 horoscopes (LOL!) of budding

or practising lawyers from message nos. 5829 (Seetharamana ji's

quiz); 5905 and 5911. (Thanks Renuji for your help in this regard)

These horoscopes do not have any planet in the 10th house excepting

for Ketu in one case.

 

In the first case 10th house is ruled by Venus which is placed in

the amsa of Gemini in Navamsa. Mercury is placed with Mars in the

house of Mercury (Virgo) in Rasi

 

In the second case (message no, 5905), the 10th house though

occupied by Ketu is ruled by Mercury (Virgo) whereas Mercury itself

is placed in the amsa of Aries in Navamsa while Mars is placed in

the House of Saturn (Acquarius) in Rasi but there is an exchange

(parivartana yoga) between Mars and Saturn placed in Scorpio.

 

In the third case the lord of the 10th house is Saturn which is

placed in the amsa of Scorpio while Mars is in Scorpio with Saturn

in Rasi.(but here i could have gone wrong somewhat because i could

not find jayawardhanapura in JHL)

 

Though this appears to be too simplistic but doesn't it seem that

there is a Mercury-Mars-Saturn connection for lawyer profession???

The connection with Mercury one can understand as one requires good

oral and written skills for arguing cases/preparing briefs. Mars of

course signifies disputes. But what is the Saturn connection??? if

there is any such connection at all!!!

 

i am waiting for somebody to say 3 swallows don't make

summer!...which, of course, is true!!!

 

warm regards,

vinita

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Dear Vinita ji,

 

I'm sorry...I should have given you the longitude & latitude for Sri

Jayawardhanapura.

 

79 E 54 ; 6 N 54

 

Hope this helps.

 

blessings

 

Renu

 

 

-- In , " vinita kumar "

<shankar_mamta wrote:

>

> Dear all,

>

> Sometime back Shreenadh provided an aphorism to predict the job of

a

> native.

>

> > <==

> > One of the major method to determine the job of a native

> is " Karmesasya

> > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida " (Phaladeepika)

> meaning, " the

> > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa

lord

> of the

> > 10th house lord from Natal lagna "

>

> Of course, there are caveats to this as he explained in message

no.

> 5778.

>

> i now have a " handsome " collection of 3 horoscopes (LOL!) of

budding

> or practising lawyers from message nos. 5829 (Seetharamana ji's

> quiz); 5905 and 5911. (Thanks Renuji for your help in this regard)

> These horoscopes do not have any planet in the 10th house

excepting

> for Ketu in one case.

>

> In the first case 10th house is ruled by Venus which is placed in

> the amsa of Gemini in Navamsa. Mercury is placed with Mars in the

> house of Mercury (Virgo) in Rasi

>

> In the second case (message no, 5905), the 10th house though

> occupied by Ketu is ruled by Mercury (Virgo) whereas Mercury

itself

> is placed in the amsa of Aries in Navamsa while Mars is placed in

> the House of Saturn (Acquarius) in Rasi but there is an exchange

> (parivartana yoga) between Mars and Saturn placed in Scorpio.

>

> In the third case the lord of the 10th house is Saturn which is

> placed in the amsa of Scorpio while Mars is in Scorpio with Saturn

> in Rasi.(but here i could have gone wrong somewhat because i could

> not find jayawardhanapura in JHL)

>

> Though this appears to be too simplistic but doesn't it seem that

> there is a Mercury-Mars-Saturn connection for lawyer profession???

> The connection with Mercury one can understand as one requires

good

> oral and written skills for arguing cases/preparing briefs. Mars

of

> course signifies disputes. But what is the Saturn connection??? if

> there is any such connection at all!!!

>

> i am waiting for somebody to say 3 swallows don't make

> summer!...which, of course, is true!!!

>

> warm regards,

> vinita

>

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Vinitaji,Firstly: Not all lawyers are good lawyers - there maybe lawyers who are professionally lawyers but are very bad and lose many cases.Such people may not have good communication skills - making Mercury irrelevant.Secondly: Communication Skills (vak) can also be seen from the second house. 2nd house also indicates vak/speech. So if 2nd house lord is in sustana/2nd house contains benefic - that can be substitute for MercuryWhy not Jupiter? Can he not indicate good knowledge of law?That is we can always narrow down to 3 or 4 possible options but not a 3-planet combinationRegardsKiranvinita kumar <shankar_mamta wrote: Dear all, Sometime back Shreenadh provided an aphorism to predict the job of a native. > <== > One of the major method to determine the job of a native is "Karmesasya > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida" (Phaladeepika) meaning, "the > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa lord of the > 10th house lord from Natal lagna" Of course, there are caveats to this as he explained in message no. 5778. i now have a "handsome" collection of 3 horoscopes (LOL!) of budding or practising lawyers from message nos. 5829 (Seetharamana ji's quiz); 5905 and 5911. (Thanks Renuji for your help in this regard) These horoscopes do not have any planet in the 10th house excepting for Ketu in one case. In the first case 10th

house is ruled by Venus which is placed in the amsa of Gemini in Navamsa. Mercury is placed with Mars in the house of Mercury (Virgo) in Rasi In the second case (message no, 5905), the 10th house though occupied by Ketu is ruled by Mercury (Virgo) whereas Mercury itself is placed in the amsa of Aries in Navamsa while Mars is placed in the House of Saturn (Acquarius) in Rasi but there is an exchange (parivartana yoga) between Mars and Saturn placed in Scorpio. In the third case the lord of the 10th house is Saturn which is placed in the amsa of Scorpio while Mars is in Scorpio with Saturn in Rasi.(but here i could have gone wrong somewhat because i could not find jayawardhanapura in JHL) Though this appears to be too simplistic but doesn't it seem that there is a Mercury-Mars-Saturn connection for lawyer profession??? The connection with Mercury one can understand as one requires

good oral and written skills for arguing cases/preparing briefs. Mars of course signifies disputes. But what is the Saturn connection??? if there is any such connection at all!!! i am waiting for somebody to say 3 swallows don't make summer!...which, of course, is true!!! warm regards, vinita

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Dear Vinita ji, If I recall the mails correctly, of the three charts you are talking about, two of them are still studying and have not yet even started practicing law. It may not be appropriate to use their charts to validate. Probably, they can be used to validate eduction in law. It is only our assumption that they will practice law. In my own case, I am a post-graduate in Civil Engineering from Indian Institute of Science. I am gold medalist in Civil Engineering. I studied Civil Engineering for 7 long years. But, I ended up working as a Software Engineer for 23 long years. I am not suggesting both these students will end up switching their careers like me. But, I feel it is prudent to pick charts of practicing lawyers to be on the safter side, specially while learning. This would avoid breaking our heads with a inappropriate chart. Of course, this is only a suggestion :0) Regards, Krishnavinita kumar <shankar_mamta wrote: Dear all,Sometime back Shreenadh provided an aphorism to predict the job of a native.> <==> One of the major method to determine the job of a native is "Karmesasya> Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida" (Phaladeepika) meaning, "the > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa lord of the> 10th house lord from Natal lagna"Of course, there are caveats

to this as he explained in message no. 5778.i now have a "handsome" collection of 3 horoscopes (LOL!) of budding or practising lawyers from message nos. 5829 (Seetharamana ji's quiz); 5905 and 5911. (Thanks Renuji for your help in this regard)These horoscopes do not have any planet in the 10th house excepting for Ketu in one case.In the first case 10th house is ruled by Venus which is placed in the amsa of Gemini in Navamsa. Mercury is placed with Mars in the house of Mercury (Virgo) in RasiIn the second case (message no, 5905), the 10th house though occupied by Ketu is ruled by Mercury (Virgo) whereas Mercury itself is placed in the amsa of Aries in Navamsa while Mars is placed in the House of Saturn (Acquarius) in Rasi but there is an exchange (parivartana yoga) between Mars and Saturn placed in Scorpio.In the third case the lord of the 10th house is Saturn which is placed in the amsa of

Scorpio while Mars is in Scorpio with Saturn in Rasi.(but here i could have gone wrong somewhat because i could not find jayawardhanapura in JHL)Though this appears to be too simplistic but doesn't it seem that there is a Mercury-Mars-Saturn connection for lawyer profession??? The connection with Mercury one can understand as one requires good oral and written skills for arguing cases/preparing briefs. Mars of course signifies disputes. But what is the Saturn connection??? if there is any such connection at all!!!i am waiting for somebody to say 3 swallows don't make summer!...which, of course, is true!!!warm regards,vinita

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Dear Seetharama Ji and Vinita Ji Greetings You touched a very emotional subject. I am 26 years old. I have B.Tech from one of a very premier and respected institute in India in metallurgical engineering. I have M.S. from US in metallurgical engineering. I have worked for almost 1 year and 8 months in this material science area (in US).... Now life has come to a point where i am forced to go into IT field to earn bread. I am hating this but i dont have much option right now in my hand. I always loved metallurgical engineering but now i am migrating into something to make my bread... Details: 25-Aug 1981 TOB: 19:13 POB: Ghaziabad, UP Thanks JagdishKrishnamurthy

Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: Dear Vinita ji, If I recall the mails correctly, of the three charts you are talking about, two of them are still studying and have not yet even started practicing law. It may not be appropriate to use their charts to validate. Probably, they can be used to validate eduction in law. It is only our assumption that they will practice law. In my own case, I am a post-graduate in Civil Engineering from Indian Institute of Science. I am gold medalist in Civil Engineering. I studied

Civil Engineering for 7 long years. But, I ended up working as a Software Engineer for 23 long years. I am not suggesting both these students will end up switching their careers like me. But, I feel it is prudent to pick charts of practicing lawyers to be on the safter side, specially while learning. This would avoid breaking our heads with a inappropriate chart. Of course, this is only a suggestion :0) Regards, Krishnavinita kumar <shankar_mamta (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear all,Sometime back Shreenadh provided an aphorism to predict the job of a native.> <==> One of the major method to determine the job of a native is "Karmesasya> Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida" (Phaladeepika) meaning, "the

> job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa lord of the> 10th house lord from Natal lagna"Of course, there are caveats to this as he explained in message no. 5778.i now have a "handsome" collection of 3 horoscopes (LOL!) of budding or practising lawyers from message nos. 5829 (Seetharamana ji's quiz); 5905 and 5911. (Thanks Renuji for your help in this regard)These horoscopes do not have any planet in the 10th house excepting for Ketu in one case.In the first case 10th house is ruled by Venus which is placed in the amsa of Gemini in Navamsa. Mercury is placed with Mars in the house of Mercury (Virgo) in RasiIn the second case (message no, 5905), the 10th house though occupied by Ketu is ruled by Mercury (Virgo) whereas Mercury itself is placed in the amsa of Aries in Navamsa while Mars is placed in the House of Saturn (Acquarius) in Rasi but there is an exchange

(parivartana yoga) between Mars and Saturn placed in Scorpio.In the third case the lord of the 10th house is Saturn which is placed in the amsa of Scorpio while Mars is in Scorpio with Saturn in Rasi.(but here i could have gone wrong somewhat because i could not find jayawardhanapura in JHL)Though this appears to be too simplistic but doesn't it seem that there is a Mercury-Mars-Saturn connection for lawyer profession??? The connection with Mercury one can understand as one requires good oral and written skills for arguing cases/preparing briefs. Mars of course signifies disputes. But what is the Saturn connection??? if there is any such connection at all!!!i am waiting for somebody to say 3 swallows don't make summer!...which, of course, is true!!!warm regards,vinita Looking for last minute shopping

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Om Namah Shivaye..

 

Namaste..

 

Firstly I would like to extend my warmest good wishes to all for a

very happy, contented and fulfilling new year..

 

On the topic of lawyers charts, I believe that the second house

definately contributes to the outcome of if the persons will actually

practice law..

 

I have 2 charts, where the persons actually travelled to london uk,

to study law and did get their degrees with flying colours.. but went

back to their countries but never practiced law.. neither in uk or

their birthcountry..

 

If you like to analyse it , I can send u their birth details..

 

with respects

Sheevani

 

, Kiran R

<kiran.rama wrote:

>

> Vinitaji,

>

> Firstly: Not all lawyers are good lawyers - there maybe lawyers who

are professionally lawyers but are very bad and lose many cases.

> Such people may not have good communication skills - making Mercury

irrelevant.

>

> Secondly: Communication Skills (vak) can also be seen from the

second house. 2nd house also indicates vak/speech. So if 2nd house

lord is in sustana/2nd house contains benefic - that can be

substitute for Mercury

>

> Why not Jupiter? Can he not indicate good knowledge of law?

>

> That is we can always narrow down to 3 or 4 possible options but

not a 3-planet combination

>

> Regards

> Kiran

> vinita kumar <shankar_mamta

wrote: Dear all,

>

> Sometime back Shreenadh provided an aphorism to predict the job of

a

> native.

>

> > <==

> > One of the major method to determine the job of a native

> is " Karmesasya

> > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida " (Phaladeepika)

> meaning, " the

> > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa

lord

> of the

> > 10th house lord from Natal lagna "

>

> Of course, there are caveats to this as he explained in message

no.

> 5778.

>

> i now have a " handsome " collection of 3 horoscopes (LOL!) of

budding

> or practising lawyers from message nos. 5829 (Seetharamana ji's

> quiz); 5905 and 5911. (Thanks Renuji for your help in this regard)

> These horoscopes do not have any planet in the 10th house

excepting

> for Ketu in one case.

>

> In the first case 10th house is ruled by Venus which is placed in

> the amsa of Gemini in Navamsa. Mercury is placed with Mars in the

> house of Mercury (Virgo) in Rasi

>

> In the second case (message no, 5905), the 10th house though

> occupied by Ketu is ruled by Mercury (Virgo) whereas Mercury

itself

> is placed in the amsa of Aries in Navamsa while Mars is placed in

> the House of Saturn (Acquarius) in Rasi but there is an exchange

> (parivartana yoga) between Mars and Saturn placed in Scorpio.

>

> In the third case the lord of the 10th house is Saturn which is

> placed in the amsa of Scorpio while Mars is in Scorpio with Saturn

> in Rasi.(but here i could have gone wrong somewhat because i could

> not find jayawardhanapura in JHL)

>

> Though this appears to be too simplistic but doesn't it seem that

> there is a Mercury-Mars-Saturn connection for lawyer profession???

> The connection with Mercury one can understand as one requires

good

> oral and written skills for arguing cases/preparing briefs. Mars

of

> course signifies disputes. But what is the Saturn connection??? if

> there is any such connection at all!!!

>

> i am waiting for somebody to say 3 swallows don't make

> summer!...which, of course, is true!!!

>

> warm regards,

> vinita

 

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dear krishnaji,

 

i agree with u entirely!

 

but just as an aside, people like u who have a brilliant science

background can perhaps switch to other jobs with ease whereas a

person who devotes 5 years to studying law may not be too good at

anything else. (i am talking of integrated courses in law in

specialised colleges where people generally get jobs in law firms,

etc.)

 

but then i could be wrong!

 

regards,

vinita

 

 

, Krishnamurthy

Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Vinita ji,

>

> If I recall the mails correctly, of the three charts you are

talking about, two of them are still studying and have not yet even

started practicing law. It may not be appropriate to use their charts

to validate. Probably, they can be used to validate eduction in law.

It is only our assumption that they will practice law. In my own

case, I am a post-graduate in Civil Engineering from Indian Institute

of Science. I am gold medalist in Civil Engineering. I studied Civil

Engineering for 7 long years. But, I ended up working as a Software

Engineer for 23 long years. I am not suggesting both these students

will end up switching their careers like me. But, I feel it is

prudent to pick charts of practicing lawyers to be on the safter

side, specially while learning. This would avoid breaking our heads

with a inappropriate chart.

>

> Of course, this is only a suggestion :0)

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> vinita kumar <shankar_mamta wrote:

> Dear all,

>

> Sometime back Shreenadh provided an aphorism to predict the job of

a

> native.

>

> > <==

> > One of the major method to determine the job of a native

> is " Karmesasya

> > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida " (Phaladeepika)

> meaning, " the

> > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa lord

> of the

> > 10th house lord from Natal lagna "

>

> Of course, there are caveats to this as he explained in message no.

> 5778.

>

> i now have a " handsome " collection of 3 horoscopes (LOL!) of

budding

> or practising lawyers from message nos. 5829 (Seetharamana ji's

> quiz); 5905 and 5911. (Thanks Renuji for your help in this regard)

> These horoscopes do not have any planet in the 10th house excepting

> for Ketu in one case.

>

> In the first case 10th house is ruled by Venus which is placed in

> the amsa of Gemini in Navamsa. Mercury is placed with Mars in the

> house of Mercury (Virgo) in Rasi

>

> In the second case (message no, 5905), the 10th house though

> occupied by Ketu is ruled by Mercury (Virgo) whereas Mercury itself

> is placed in the amsa of Aries in Navamsa while Mars is placed in

> the House of Saturn (Acquarius) in Rasi but there is an exchange

> (parivartana yoga) between Mars and Saturn placed in Scorpio.

>

> In the third case the lord of the 10th house is Saturn which is

> placed in the amsa of Scorpio while Mars is in Scorpio with Saturn

> in Rasi.(but here i could have gone wrong somewhat because i could

> not find jayawardhanapura in JHL)

>

> Though this appears to be too simplistic but doesn't it seem that

> there is a Mercury-Mars-Saturn connection for lawyer profession???

> The connection with Mercury one can understand as one requires good

> oral and written skills for arguing cases/preparing briefs. Mars of

> course signifies disputes. But what is the Saturn connection??? if

> there is any such connection at all!!!

>

> i am waiting for somebody to say 3 swallows don't make

> summer!...which, of course, is true!!!

>

> warm regards,

> vinita

 

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Dear Vinita Madam & Krishnaji,

 

Just for humor, in my initial days of my career, my father used to often

remind me that at any new place, make three friends - Doctor, Police &

then a Lawyer. But keep them at distance....!! For reasons are all

known to every body......

 

Reality - My job did require to make contacts with all three - first on

my agenda due to my nature of job.

 

Conclusions: In India it is primarily difficult for someone choosing

the legal profession by choice for obvious reasons- employment are

limited in this area. With raise of Intellectual Property & Copyrights

becoming now more predominant + few other complex industrial & ethics

coming together....lately there has been some surge in the jobs in this

segment.

 

Back to Astrology:

 

But all successful lawyers should also be having traits of twisting the

subject/logic to advantage. Surely this profession does require some

elements of being untruthful, so 2H should have some affliction. If

2H is NOT afflicted, then considering other factors, the native could

be a Judge !! For a good judge, Saturn should be well placed. Else,

irrespective of other good combinations, for a single Point of ill

placed saturn would ensure that the native getting stuck at Lower

Courts.....!! or end up being a " Commission " Judge. { Commission = pun

intended }

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

, " vinita kumar "

<shankar_mamta wrote:

 

dear krishnaji,

 

i agree with u entirely!

 

but just as an aside, people like u who have a brilliant science

background can perhaps switch to other jobs with ease whereas a

person who devotes 5 years to studying law may not be too good at

anything else. (i am talking of integrated courses in law in

specialised colleges where people generally get jobs in law firms,

etc.)

 

but then i could be wrong!

 

regards,

vinita

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You could be right as well :-) Regards, Krishnavinita kumar <shankar_mamta wrote: dear krishnaji,i agree with u entirely!but just as an aside, people like u who have a brilliant science background can perhaps switch to other jobs with ease whereas a person who devotes 5 years to studying law may not be too good at anything else. (i am talking of integrated courses in law in specialised colleges where people generally get jobs in law firms,

etc.)but then i could be wrong!regards,vinita , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:>> Dear Vinita ji,> > If I recall the mails correctly, of the three charts you are talking about, two of them are still studying and have not yet even started practicing law. It may not be appropriate to use their charts to validate. Probably, they can be used to validate eduction in law. It is only our assumption that they will practice law. In my own case, I am a post-graduate in Civil Engineering from Indian Institute of Science. I am gold medalist in Civil Engineering. I studied Civil Engineering for 7 long years. But, I ended up working as a Software Engineer for 23 long years. I am not suggesting both these students will end up switching

their careers like me. But, I feel it is prudent to pick charts of practicing lawyers to be on the safter side, specially while learning. This would avoid breaking our heads with a inappropriate chart.> > Of course, this is only a suggestion :0)> > Regards,> Krishna> > vinita kumar <shankar_mamta wrote:> Dear all,> > Sometime back Shreenadh provided an aphorism to predict the job of a > native.> > > <==> > One of the major method to determine the job of a native > is "Karmesasya> > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida" (Phaladeepika) > meaning, "the > > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa lord > of the> > 10th house lord from Natal lagna"> > Of course, there are caveats to this as he explained in message no. > 5778.> > i

now have a "handsome" collection of 3 horoscopes (LOL!) of budding > or practising lawyers from message nos. 5829 (Seetharamana ji's > quiz); 5905 and 5911. (Thanks Renuji for your help in this regard)> These horoscopes do not have any planet in the 10th house excepting > for Ketu in one case.> > In the first case 10th house is ruled by Venus which is placed in > the amsa of Gemini in Navamsa. Mercury is placed with Mars in the > house of Mercury (Virgo) in Rasi> > In the second case (message no, 5905), the 10th house though > occupied by Ketu is ruled by Mercury (Virgo) whereas Mercury itself > is placed in the amsa of Aries in Navamsa while Mars is placed in > the House of Saturn (Acquarius) in Rasi but there is an exchange > (parivartana yoga) between Mars and Saturn placed in Scorpio.> > In the third case the lord of the 10th house is Saturn which is

> placed in the amsa of Scorpio while Mars is in Scorpio with Saturn > in Rasi.(but here i could have gone wrong somewhat because i could > not find jayawardhanapura in JHL)> > Though this appears to be too simplistic but doesn't it seem that > there is a Mercury-Mars-Saturn connection for lawyer profession??? > The connection with Mercury one can understand as one requires good > oral and written skills for arguing cases/preparing briefs. Mars of > course signifies disputes. But what is the Saturn connection??? if > there is any such connection at all!!!> > i am waiting for somebody to say 3 swallows don't make > summer!...which, of course, is true!!!> > warm regards,> vinita> > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast

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Dear Jagadish, There are two ways of attaining sucess in life. One is to constantly go after what you like to do in life, sacrifice everything else to be able to do what you like and just focus on that. The second way is to take what the life has to offer, whether you like it or not, put your best efforts and try to excel in that. In either path, hard work is common and both are challenging. There is no escape from either hardwork or challenges in life, if one wants to succeed. Please don't say "I am forced to do something that I don't like...". By that attitude you are only defeating yourself. So, if you want to work in metallurgy, just go after it, sacrificing everything that comes in the way. Otherwise, just do what you are doing, but put your best efforts in it. Take it as a challenge and try to beat those who are good in that field. All the best! Dear

Moderator, Sorry for the non-astrological post. Regards, KrishnaPrathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest wrote: Dear Seetharama Ji and Vinita Ji Greetings You touched a very emotional subject. I am 26 years old. I have B.Tech from one of a very premier and respected institute in India in metallurgical engineering. I have M.S. from US in metallurgical engineering. I

have worked for almost 1 year and 8 months in this material science area (in US).... Now life has come to a point where i am forced to go into IT field to earn bread. I am hating this but i dont have much option right now in my hand. I always loved metallurgical engineering but now i am migrating into something to make my bread... Details: 25-Aug 1981 TOB: 19:13 POB: Ghaziabad, UP Thanks JagdishKrishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 > wrote: Dear Vinita ji, If I recall the mails correctly, of the three charts you are talking about, two of them are still studying and have not yet even started practicing

law. It may not be appropriate to use their charts to validate. Probably, they can be used to validate eduction in law. It is only our assumption that they will practice law. In my own case, I am a post-graduate in Civil Engineering from Indian Institute of Science. I am gold medalist in Civil Engineering. I studied Civil Engineering for 7 long years. But, I ended up working as a Software Engineer for 23 long years. I am not suggesting both these students will end up switching their careers like me. But, I feel it is prudent to pick charts of practicing lawyers to be on the safter side, specially while learning. This would avoid breaking our heads with a inappropriate chart. Of course, this is only a suggestion :0) Regards, Krishnavinita kumar <shankar_mamta (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear all,Sometime back Shreenadh provided an aphorism to predict the job of a native.> <==> One of the major method to determine the job of a native is "Karmesasya> Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida" (Phaladeepika) meaning, "the > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa lord of the> 10th house lord from Natal lagna"Of course, there are caveats to this as he explained in message no. 5778.i now have a "handsome" collection of 3 horoscopes (LOL!) of budding or practising lawyers from message nos. 5829 (Seetharamana ji's quiz); 5905 and 5911. (Thanks Renuji for your help in this regard)These horoscopes do not have any planet in the 10th house excepting for Ketu in one case.In the first case 10th house is ruled by Venus which is placed in the amsa of Gemini in Navamsa. Mercury is placed with Mars in the

house of Mercury (Virgo) in RasiIn the second case (message no, 5905), the 10th house though occupied by Ketu is ruled by Mercury (Virgo) whereas Mercury itself is placed in the amsa of Aries in Navamsa while Mars is placed in the House of Saturn (Acquarius) in Rasi but there is an exchange (parivartana yoga) between Mars and Saturn placed in Scorpio.In the third case the lord of the 10th house is Saturn which is placed in the amsa of Scorpio while Mars is in Scorpio with Saturn in Rasi.(but here i could have gone wrong somewhat because i could not find jayawardhanapura in JHL)Though this appears to be too simplistic but doesn't it seem that there is a Mercury-Mars-Saturn connection for lawyer profession??? The connection with Mercury one can understand as one requires good oral and written skills for arguing cases/preparing briefs. Mars of course signifies disputes. But what is the Saturn

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Dear Jagadish,

 

i would second the advice Krishnaji has given to u. but there is a

subtle difference between the two. pursuing one's dreams with single

minded purpose does sometimes yield results, but it is the rajasic

way of doing things where u pursue your desires.

 

the second alternative is far more superior. u give your 100 per

cent to whatever u are doing...whether u are cut out for it or

not...for the feeling that u are good for this and not that is just

a state of mind. this perhaps is the satvic way of doing things

where u work without desire for results. it is allegedly far more

satisfying.

 

hard work with total involvement is the secret of life...but then

desires have to be thrown out of the window. u work just because

work is salvation. (doesn't our gita tell us that!)

 

there is no such thing as being succesfull or otherwise. work done

with love and consciousness is success.

 

my daughter tells me that i often get preachy...and don't practise

what i preach!

 

but how does that matter!;)

 

love,

vinita

 

 

 

 

, Krishnamurthy

Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Jagadish,

>

> There are two ways of attaining sucess in life. One is to

constantly go after what you like to do in life, sacrifice

everything else to be able to do what you like and just focus on

that. The second way is to take what the life has to offer, whether

you like it or not, put your best efforts and try to excel in that.

In either path, hard work is common and both are challenging. There

is no escape from either hardwork or challenges in life, if one

wants to succeed.

>

> Please don't say " I am forced to do something that I don't

like... " . By that attitude you are only defeating yourself. So, if

you want to work in metallurgy, just go after it, sacrificing

everything that comes in the way. Otherwise, just do what you are

doing, but put your best efforts in it. Take it as a challenge and

try to beat those who are good in that field.

>

> All the best!

>

> Dear Moderator,

>

> Sorry for the non-astrological post.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest wrote:

> Dear Seetharama Ji and Vinita Ji

>

> Greetings

>

> You touched a very emotional subject. I am 26 years old. I have

B.Tech from one of a very premier and respected institute in India

in metallurgical engineering. I have M.S. from US in metallurgical

engineering.

>

> I have worked for almost 1 year and 8 months in this material

science area (in US)....

>

>

> Now life has come to a point where i am forced to go into IT

field to earn bread. I am hating this but i dont have much option

right now in my hand.

>

> I always loved metallurgical engineering but now i am migrating

into something to make my bread...

>

> Details: 25-Aug 1981

> TOB: 19:13

> POB: Ghaziabad, UP

>

> Thanks

>

> Jagdish

>

> Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:

> Dear Vinita ji,

>

> If I recall the mails correctly, of the three charts you are

talking about, two of them are still studying and have not yet even

started practicing law. It may not be appropriate to use their

charts to validate. Probably, they can be used to validate eduction

in law. It is only our assumption that they will practice law. In my

own case, I am a post-graduate in Civil Engineering from Indian

Institute of Science. I am gold medalist in Civil Engineering. I

studied Civil Engineering for 7 long years. But, I ended up working

as a Software Engineer for 23 long years. I am not suggesting both

these students will end up switching their careers like me. But, I

feel it is prudent to pick charts of practicing lawyers to be on the

safter side, specially while learning. This would avoid breaking our

heads with a inappropriate chart.

>

> Of course, this is only a suggestion :0)

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> vinita kumar <shankar_mamta wrote:

> Dear all,

>

> Sometime back Shreenadh provided an aphorism to predict the job of

a

> native.

>

> > <==

> > One of the major method to determine the job of a native

> is " Karmesasya

> > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida " (Phaladeepika)

> meaning, " the

> > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa

lord

> of the

> > 10th house lord from Natal lagna "

>

> Of course, there are caveats to this as he explained in message

no.

> 5778.

>

> i now have a " handsome " collection of 3 horoscopes (LOL!) of

budding

> or practising lawyers from message nos. 5829 (Seetharamana ji's

> quiz); 5905 and 5911. (Thanks Renuji for your help in this regard)

> These horoscopes do not have any planet in the 10th house

excepting

> for Ketu in one case.

>

> In the first case 10th house is ruled by Venus which is placed in

> the amsa of Gemini in Navamsa. Mercury is placed with Mars in the

> house of Mercury (Virgo) in Rasi

>

> In the second case (message no, 5905), the 10th house though

> occupied by Ketu is ruled by Mercury (Virgo) whereas Mercury

itself

> is placed in the amsa of Aries in Navamsa while Mars is placed in

> the House of Saturn (Acquarius) in Rasi but there is an exchange

> (parivartana yoga) between Mars and Saturn placed in Scorpio.

>

> In the third case the lord of the 10th house is Saturn which is

> placed in the amsa of Scorpio while Mars is in Scorpio with Saturn

> in Rasi.(but here i could have gone wrong somewhat because i could

> not find jayawardhanapura in JHL)

>

> Though this appears to be too simplistic but doesn't it seem that

> there is a Mercury-Mars-Saturn connection for lawyer profession???

> The connection with Mercury one can understand as one requires

good

> oral and written skills for arguing cases/preparing briefs. Mars

of

> course signifies disputes. But what is the Saturn connection??? if

> there is any such connection at all!!!

>

> i am waiting for somebody to say 3 swallows don't make

> summer!...which, of course, is true!!!

>

> warm regards,

> vinita

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Sreeram ji,

 

" Surely this profession does require some

elements of being untruthful, " ...

 

A defence based on lies is no proper defence. A proper defence

should be based on true facts. It is not fair to say that profession

of law requires some element of being untruthful. I know doctors who

give vitamins on the pretext of medicine to patients who 'claim' to

be sick..in order to boost up their mentality and cure thier false

illnesses. Needless to talk about politicans!!! So a tinge of

untruth may be a deception common to all professions.

 

But a rightful lawyer would never lie in order to convict an

innocent or to acquit a guilty. So it would not be proper to declare

such generalized statements, regarding the profession of law.

 

blessings

 

Renu

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-- In , " sreeram srinivas "

<sreeram64 wrote:

>

>

> Dear Vinita Madam & Krishnaji,

>

> Just for humor, in my initial days of my career, my father used to

often

> remind me that at any new place, make three friends - Doctor,

Police &

> then a Lawyer. But keep them at distance....!! For reasons are all

> known to every body......

>

> Reality - My job did require to make contacts with all three -

first on

> my agenda due to my nature of job.

>

> Conclusions: In India it is primarily difficult for someone

choosing

> the legal profession by choice for obvious reasons- employment are

> limited in this area. With raise of Intellectual Property &

Copyrights

> becoming now more predominant + few other complex industrial &

ethics

> coming together....lately there has been some surge in the jobs in

this

> segment.

>

> Back to Astrology:

>

> But all successful lawyers should also be having traits of

twisting the

> subject/logic to advantage. Surely this profession does require

some

> elements of being untruthful, so 2H should have some

affliction. If

> 2H is NOT afflicted, then considering other factors, the native

could

> be a Judge !! For a good judge, Saturn should be well placed.

Else,

> irrespective of other good combinations, for a single Point of ill

> placed saturn would ensure that the native getting stuck at Lower

> Courts.....!! or end up being a " Commission " Judge. { Commission

= pun

> intended }

>

> With regards,

>

> Sreeram_Srinivas

> , " vinita kumar "

> <shankar_mamta@> wrote:

>

> dear krishnaji,

>

> i agree with u entirely!

>

> but just as an aside, people like u who have a brilliant science

> background can perhaps switch to other jobs with ease whereas a

> person who devotes 5 years to studying law may not be too good at

> anything else. (i am talking of integrated courses in law in

> specialised colleges where people generally get jobs in law firms,

> etc.)

>

> but then i could be wrong!

>

> regards,

> vinita

>

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Dear Krishna ji,

That was a nice advice - and I would have suggested the same (i.e.

is of the same opinion). It is very good to see such matured

comments/advices.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

 

, Krishnamurthy

Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Jagadish,

>

> There are two ways of attaining sucess in life. One is to

constantly go after what you like to do in life, sacrifice everything

else to be able to do what you like and just focus on that. The second

way is to take what the life has to offer, whether you like it or not,

put your best efforts and try to excel in that. In either path, hard

work is common and both are challenging. There is no escape from

either hardwork or challenges in life, if one wants to succeed.

>

> Please don't say " I am forced to do something that I don't

like... " . By that attitude you are only defeating yourself. So, if you

want to work in metallurgy, just go after it, sacrificing everything

that comes in the way. Otherwise, just do what you are doing, but put

your best efforts in it. Take it as a challenge and try to beat those

who are good in that field.

>

> All the best!

>

> Dear Moderator,

>

> Sorry for the non-astrological post.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest wrote:

> Dear Seetharama Ji and Vinita Ji

>

> Greetings

>

> You touched a very emotional subject. I am 26 years old. I have

B.Tech from one of a very premier and respected institute in India in

metallurgical engineering. I have M.S. from US in metallurgical

engineering.

>

> I have worked for almost 1 year and 8 months in this material

science area (in US)....

>

>

> Now life has come to a point where i am forced to go into IT field

to earn bread. I am hating this but i dont have much option right now

in my hand.

>

> I always loved metallurgical engineering but now i am migrating

into something to make my bread...

>

> Details: 25-Aug 1981

> TOB: 19:13

> POB: Ghaziabad, UP

>

> Thanks

>

> Jagdish

>

> Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:

> Dear Vinita ji,

>

> If I recall the mails correctly, of the three charts you are

talking about, two of them are still studying and have not yet even

started practicing law. It may not be appropriate to use their charts

to validate. Probably, they can be used to validate eduction in law.

It is only our assumption that they will practice law. In my own case,

I am a post-graduate in Civil Engineering from Indian Institute of

Science. I am gold medalist in Civil Engineering. I studied Civil

Engineering for 7 long years. But, I ended up working as a Software

Engineer for 23 long years. I am not suggesting both these students

will end up switching their careers like me. But, I feel it is prudent

to pick charts of practicing lawyers to be on the safter side,

specially while learning. This would avoid breaking our heads with a

inappropriate chart.

>

> Of course, this is only a suggestion :0)

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> vinita kumar <shankar_mamta wrote:

> Dear all,

>

> Sometime back Shreenadh provided an aphorism to predict the job of a

> native.

>

> > <==

> > One of the major method to determine the job of a native

> is " Karmesasya

> > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida " (Phaladeepika)

> meaning, " the

> > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa lord

> of the

> > 10th house lord from Natal lagna "

>

> Of course, there are caveats to this as he explained in message no.

> 5778.

>

> i now have a " handsome " collection of 3 horoscopes (LOL!) of budding

> or practising lawyers from message nos. 5829 (Seetharamana ji's

> quiz); 5905 and 5911. (Thanks Renuji for your help in this regard)

> These horoscopes do not have any planet in the 10th house excepting

> for Ketu in one case.

>

> In the first case 10th house is ruled by Venus which is placed in

> the amsa of Gemini in Navamsa. Mercury is placed with Mars in the

> house of Mercury (Virgo) in Rasi

>

> In the second case (message no, 5905), the 10th house though

> occupied by Ketu is ruled by Mercury (Virgo) whereas Mercury itself

> is placed in the amsa of Aries in Navamsa while Mars is placed in

> the House of Saturn (Acquarius) in Rasi but there is an exchange

> (parivartana yoga) between Mars and Saturn placed in Scorpio.

>

> In the third case the lord of the 10th house is Saturn which is

> placed in the amsa of Scorpio while Mars is in Scorpio with Saturn

> in Rasi.(but here i could have gone wrong somewhat because i could

> not find jayawardhanapura in JHL)

>

> Though this appears to be too simplistic but doesn't it seem that

> there is a Mercury-Mars-Saturn connection for lawyer profession???

> The connection with Mercury one can understand as one requires good

> oral and written skills for arguing cases/preparing briefs. Mars of

> course signifies disputes. But what is the Saturn connection??? if

> there is any such connection at all!!!

>

> i am waiting for somebody to say 3 swallows don't make

> summer!...which, of course, is true!!!

>

> warm regards,

> vinita

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Vinita ji,

Here is the way I took (may be useful to Jagadish ji) -

* I love astrology and is putting my life after it. [The first choice -

ya, I am rajasik, or may be a bit tamasik as well ;) ]

* BUT I need worldly success - so I am in IT and is totally dedicating

to it and finds good satisfaction in it in my work hours. :) [The second

choice - but I am not Satwik, but here too I am rajasik ;) may be even

aggressive :) ]

So the question - did chose the first way or the second way? :=)

But I agree to your statement -

 

> there is no such things (in life) as being successful or otherwise.

work done

> with love and consciousness is (for sure will lead to) success

(and satisfaction).

The following statement in a thought provoking -

 

> hard work with total involvement is the secret of life.

I would like to modify it in the following way -

Life (work is just part of it) with total involvement is the secret of

life satisfaction and is a truly successful life what ever be the opinion of

others about such a life - yes, even if others consider it as a failure.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

, "vinita kumar" <shankar_mamta wrote:>> Dear Jagadish,> > i would second the advice Krishnaji has given to u. but there is a > subtle difference between the two. pursuing one's dreams with single > minded purpose does sometimes yield results, but it is the rajasic > way of doing things where u pursue your desires. > > the second alternative is far more superior. u give your 100 per > cent to whatever u are doing...whether u are cut out for it or > not...for the feeling that u are good for this and not that is just > a state of mind. this perhaps is the satvic way of doing things > where u work without desire for results. it is allegedly far more > satisfying.> > hard work with total involvement is the secret of life...but then > desires have to be thrown out of the window. u work just because > work is salvation. (doesn't our gita tell us that!)> > there is no such thing as being succesfull or otherwise. work done > with love and consciousness is success.> > my daughter tells me that i often get preachy...and don't practise > what i preach!> > but how does that matter!;)> > love,> vinita> > > > > , Krishnamurthy > Seetharama krishna_1998@ wrote:> >> > Dear Jagadish,> > > > There are two ways of attaining sucess in life. One is to > constantly go after what you like to do in life, sacrifice > everything else to be able to do what you like and just focus on > that. The second way is to take what the life has to offer, whether > you like it or not, put your best efforts and try to excel in that. > In either path, hard work is common and both are challenging. There > is no escape from either hardwork or challenges in life, if one > wants to succeed.> > > > Please don't say "I am forced to do something that I don't > like...". By that attitude you are only defeating yourself. So, if > you want to work in metallurgy, just go after it, sacrificing > everything that comes in the way. Otherwise, just do what you are > doing, but put your best efforts in it. Take it as a challenge and > try to beat those who are good in that field.> > > > All the best!> > > > Dear Moderator,> > > > Sorry for the non-astrological post. > > > > Regards,> > Krishna> > > > Prathamesn Chawan upaoakcrest@ wrote:> > Dear Seetharama Ji and Vinita Ji> > > > Greetings> > > > You touched a very emotional subject. I am 26 years old. I have > B.Tech from one of a very premier and respected institute in India > in metallurgical engineering. I have M.S. from US in metallurgical > engineering. > > > > I have worked for almost 1 year and 8 months in this material > science area (in US)....> > > > > > Now life has come to a point where i am forced to go into IT > field to earn bread. I am hating this but i dont have much option > right now in my hand.> > > > I always loved metallurgical engineering but now i am migrating > into something to make my bread...> > > > Details: 25-Aug 1981> > TOB: 19:13> > POB: Ghaziabad, UP> > > > Thanks> > > > Jagdish> > > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama krishna_1998@ wrote:> > Dear Vinita ji,> > > > If I recall the mails correctly, of the three charts you are > talking about, two of them are still studying and have not yet even > started practicing law. It may not be appropriate to use their > charts to validate. Probably, they can be used to validate eduction > in law. It is only our assumption that they will practice law. In my > own case, I am a post-graduate in Civil Engineering from Indian > Institute of Science. I am gold medalist in Civil Engineering. I > studied Civil Engineering for 7 long years. But, I ended up working > as a Software Engineer for 23 long years. I am not suggesting both > these students will end up switching their careers like me. But, I > feel it is prudent to pick charts of practicing lawyers to be on the > safter side, specially while learning. This would avoid breaking our > heads with a inappropriate chart.> > > > Of course, this is only a suggestion :0)> > > > Regards,> > Krishna> > > > vinita kumar shankar_mamta@ wrote:> > Dear all,> > > > Sometime back Shreenadh provided an aphorism to predict the job of > a > > native.> > > > > <==> > > One of the major method to determine the job of a native > > is "Karmesasya> > > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida" (Phaladeepika) > > meaning, "the > > > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa > lord > > of the> > > 10th house lord from Natal lagna"> > > > Of course, there are caveats to this as he explained in message > no. > > 5778.> > > > i now have a "handsome" collection of 3 horoscopes (LOL!) of > budding > > or practising lawyers from message nos. 5829 (Seetharamana ji's > > quiz); 5905 and 5911. (Thanks Renuji for your help in this regard)> > These horoscopes do not have any planet in the 10th house > excepting > > for Ketu in one case.> > > > In the first case 10th house is ruled by Venus which is placed in > > the amsa of Gemini in Navamsa. Mercury is placed with Mars in the > > house of Mercury (Virgo) in Rasi> > > > In the second case (message no, 5905), the 10th house though > > occupied by Ketu is ruled by Mercury (Virgo) whereas Mercury > itself > > is placed in the amsa of Aries in Navamsa while Mars is placed in > > the House of Saturn (Acquarius) in Rasi but there is an exchange > > (parivartana yoga) between Mars and Saturn placed in Scorpio.> > > > In the third case the lord of the 10th house is Saturn which is > > placed in the amsa of Scorpio while Mars is in Scorpio with Saturn > > in Rasi.(but here i could have gone wrong somewhat because i could > > not find jayawardhanapura in JHL)> > > > Though this appears to be too simplistic but doesn't it seem that > > there is a Mercury-Mars-Saturn connection for lawyer profession??? > > The connection with Mercury one can understand as one requires > good > > oral and written skills for arguing cases/preparing briefs. Mars > of > > course signifies disputes. But what is the Saturn connection??? if > > there is any such connection at all!!!> > > > i am waiting for somebody to say 3 swallows don't make > > summer!...which, of course, is true!!!> > > > warm regards,> > vinita> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with > Search. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with > Search.> >>

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Dear Shreenadh,

 

tamsik, rajasic, sattvik...yamuna, ganga, sarasvati...black, red,

white...or why not the vibgyor with violet and red at two ends of the

spectrum is what we get when we break up the light which entered in

our body (the ascendant) when we were born.

 

in this physical existence where time is a flow and not a stand-

still, the faster we move the closer we are to the stand-still?

 

there must be elements within us that stand in the way of the

flow...but, as u say, life lived with love and full involvement,

(work...not in the narrow sense of what we do in office or at home

but in the broader sense of the sum total of all activities we

perform, both physical and mental, is the measure of the degree of

our involvement, isn't it?), must hasten the flow...to show us the

way to the stand-still???

 

success and failure are relative...or maybe just a state of mind...

 

how can we comprehend standstill thru astrology when astrolgy itself

is a study of flow/motion/time!

 

But even in astrology there is always a reference to a

standstill....the nakshatras?...but since nakshatras too change

relative to the earth thru the ages...there has gotta be something

else...beyond the nakshatras, beyond the saptarishis, beyond

dhruva...in term of relative motions...and a final stand still???

 

love,

vinita

 

 

 

 

, " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

>

>

> Dear Vinita ji,

> Here is the way I took (may be useful to Jagadish ji) -

> * I love astrology and is putting my life after it. [The first

choice -

> ya, I am rajasik, or may be a bit tamasik as well ;) ]

> * BUT I need worldly success - so I am in IT and is totally

dedicating

> to it and finds good satisfaction in it in my work hours. :) [The

> second choice - but I am not Satwik, but here too I am rajasik ;)

may be

> even aggressive :) ]

> So the question - did chose the first way or the second way? :=)

> But I agree to your statement -

> > there is no such things (in life) as being successful or

otherwise.

> work done

> > with love and consciousness is (for sure will lead to) success

(and

> satisfaction).

> The following statement in a thought provoking -

> > hard work with total involvement is the secret of life.

> I would like to modify it in the following way -

> Life (work is just part of it) with total involvement is the

secret of

> life satisfaction and is a truly successful life what ever be the

> opinion of others about such a life - yes, even if others consider

it as

> a failure.

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

> , " vinita kumar "

> <shankar_mamta@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jagadish,

> >

> > i would second the advice Krishnaji has given to u. but there is a

> > subtle difference between the two. pursuing one's dreams with

single

> > minded purpose does sometimes yield results, but it is the rajasic

> > way of doing things where u pursue your desires.

> >

> > the second alternative is far more superior. u give your 100 per

> > cent to whatever u are doing...whether u are cut out for it or

> > not...for the feeling that u are good for this and not that is

just

> > a state of mind. this perhaps is the satvic way of doing things

> > where u work without desire for results. it is allegedly far more

> > satisfying.

> >

> > hard work with total involvement is the secret of life...but then

> > desires have to be thrown out of the window. u work just because

> > work is salvation. (doesn't our gita tell us that!)

> >

> > there is no such thing as being succesfull or otherwise. work done

> > with love and consciousness is success.

> >

> > my daughter tells me that i often get preachy...and don't practise

> > what i preach!

> >

> > but how does that matter!;)

> >

> > love,

> > vinita

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Krishnamurthy

> > Seetharama krishna_1998@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Jagadish,

> > >

> > > There are two ways of attaining sucess in life. One is to

> > constantly go after what you like to do in life, sacrifice

> > everything else to be able to do what you like and just focus on

> > that. The second way is to take what the life has to offer,

whether

> > you like it or not, put your best efforts and try to excel in

that.

> > In either path, hard work is common and both are challenging.

There

> > is no escape from either hardwork or challenges in life, if one

> > wants to succeed.

> > >

> > > Please don't say " I am forced to do something that I don't

> > like... " . By that attitude you are only defeating yourself. So, if

> > you want to work in metallurgy, just go after it, sacrificing

> > everything that comes in the way. Otherwise, just do what you are

> > doing, but put your best efforts in it. Take it as a challenge and

> > try to beat those who are good in that field.

> > >

> > > All the best!

> > >

> > > Dear Moderator,

> > >

> > > Sorry for the non-astrological post.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Krishna

> > >

> > > Prathamesn Chawan upaoakcrest@ wrote:

> > > Dear Seetharama Ji and Vinita Ji

> > >

> > > Greetings

> > >

> > > You touched a very emotional subject. I am 26 years old. I

have

> > B.Tech from one of a very premier and respected institute in India

> > in metallurgical engineering. I have M.S. from US in metallurgical

> > engineering.

> > >

> > > I have worked for almost 1 year and 8 months in this material

> > science area (in US)....

> > >

> > >

> > > Now life has come to a point where i am forced to go into IT

> > field to earn bread. I am hating this but i dont have much option

> > right now in my hand.

> > >

> > > I always loved metallurgical engineering but now i am

migrating

> > into something to make my bread...

> > >

> > > Details: 25-Aug 1981

> > > TOB: 19:13

> > > POB: Ghaziabad, UP

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > Jagdish

> > >

> > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama krishna_1998@ wrote:

> > > Dear Vinita ji,

> > >

> > > If I recall the mails correctly, of the three charts you are

> > talking about, two of them are still studying and have not yet

even

> > started practicing law. It may not be appropriate to use their

> > charts to validate. Probably, they can be used to validate

eduction

> > in law. It is only our assumption that they will practice law. In

my

> > own case, I am a post-graduate in Civil Engineering from Indian

> > Institute of Science. I am gold medalist in Civil Engineering. I

> > studied Civil Engineering for 7 long years. But, I ended up

working

> > as a Software Engineer for 23 long years. I am not suggesting both

> > these students will end up switching their careers like me. But, I

> > feel it is prudent to pick charts of practicing lawyers to be on

the

> > safter side, specially while learning. This would avoid breaking

our

> > heads with a inappropriate chart.

> > >

> > > Of course, this is only a suggestion :0)

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Krishna

> > >

> > > vinita kumar shankar_mamta@ wrote:

> > > Dear all,

> > >

> > > Sometime back Shreenadh provided an aphorism to predict the job

of

> > a

> > > native.

> > >

> > > > <==

> > > > One of the major method to determine the job of a native

> > > is " Karmesasya

> > > > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida " (Phaladeepika)

> > > meaning, " the

> > > > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa

> > lord

> > > of the

> > > > 10th house lord from Natal lagna "

> > >

> > > Of course, there are caveats to this as he explained in message

> > no.

> > > 5778.

> > >

> > > i now have a " handsome " collection of 3 horoscopes (LOL!) of

> > budding

> > > or practising lawyers from message nos. 5829 (Seetharamana ji's

> > > quiz); 5905 and 5911. (Thanks Renuji for your help in this

regard)

> > > These horoscopes do not have any planet in the 10th house

> > excepting

> > > for Ketu in one case.

> > >

> > > In the first case 10th house is ruled by Venus which is placed

in

> > > the amsa of Gemini in Navamsa. Mercury is placed with Mars in

the

> > > house of Mercury (Virgo) in Rasi

> > >

> > > In the second case (message no, 5905), the 10th house though

> > > occupied by Ketu is ruled by Mercury (Virgo) whereas Mercury

> > itself

> > > is placed in the amsa of Aries in Navamsa while Mars is placed

in

> > > the House of Saturn (Acquarius) in Rasi but there is an exchange

> > > (parivartana yoga) between Mars and Saturn placed in Scorpio.

> > >

> > > In the third case the lord of the 10th house is Saturn which is

> > > placed in the amsa of Scorpio while Mars is in Scorpio with

Saturn

> > > in Rasi.(but here i could have gone wrong somewhat because i

could

> > > not find jayawardhanapura in JHL)

> > >

> > > Though this appears to be too simplistic but doesn't it seem

that

> > > there is a Mercury-Mars-Saturn connection for lawyer

profession???

> > > The connection with Mercury one can understand as one requires

> > good

> > > oral and written skills for arguing cases/preparing briefs. Mars

> > of

> > > course signifies disputes. But what is the Saturn connection???

if

> > > there is any such connection at all!!!

> > >

> > > i am waiting for somebody to say 3 swallows don't make

> > > summer!...which, of course, is true!!!

> > >

> > > warm regards,

> > > vinita

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Dear Sreenadh ji, What I shared was from my own learning in life. I have myself traversed in these two paths at different points in my life. But, it was nice to see the same in the spiritual color provided by Vinita ji! I didn't think about it interms of Rajasik and Satwik approaches earlier. After reading her mail, it gave a new persepctive to my own life. Thanks Vinita ji! Regards, KrishnaSreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear Krishna ji,That was a nice advice - and I would have suggested the same (i.e.is of the same opinion). It is very good to see such maturedcomments/advices. Love and regards,Sreenadh , KrishnamurthySeetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:>> Dear Jagadish,> > There are two ways of attaining sucess in life. One is toconstantly go after what you like to do in life, sacrifice everythingelse to be able to do what you like and just focus on that. The secondway is to take what the life has to offer, whether you like it or not,put your best efforts and try to excel in that. In either path, hardwork is common and both are challenging. There is no escape fromeither hardwork or challenges in life, if one

wants to succeed.> > Please don't say "I am forced to do something that I don'tlike...". By that attitude you are only defeating yourself. So, if youwant to work in metallurgy, just go after it, sacrificing everythingthat comes in the way. Otherwise, just do what you are doing, but putyour best efforts in it. Take it as a challenge and try to beat thosewho are good in that field.> > All the best!> > Dear Moderator,> > Sorry for the non-astrological post. > > Regards,> Krishna> > Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest wrote:> Dear Seetharama Ji and Vinita Ji> > Greetings> > You touched a very emotional subject. I am 26 years old. I haveB.Tech from one of a very premier and respected institute in India inmetallurgical engineering. I have M.S. from US in metallurgicalengineering. > > I have worked

for almost 1 year and 8 months in this materialscience area (in US)....> > > Now life has come to a point where i am forced to go into IT fieldto earn bread. I am hating this but i dont have much option right nowin my hand.> > I always loved metallurgical engineering but now i am migratinginto something to make my bread...> > Details: 25-Aug 1981> TOB: 19:13> POB: Ghaziabad, UP> > Thanks> > Jagdish> > Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:> Dear Vinita ji,> > If I recall the mails correctly, of the three charts you aretalking about, two of them are still studying and have not yet evenstarted practicing law. It may not be appropriate to use their chartsto validate. Probably, they can be used to validate eduction in law.It is only our assumption that they will practice law. In my own case,I am

a post-graduate in Civil Engineering from Indian Institute ofScience. I am gold medalist in Civil Engineering. I studied CivilEngineering for 7 long years. But, I ended up working as a SoftwareEngineer for 23 long years. I am not suggesting both these studentswill end up switching their careers like me. But, I feel it is prudentto pick charts of practicing lawyers to be on the safter side,specially while learning. This would avoid breaking our heads with ainappropriate chart.> > Of course, this is only a suggestion :0)> > Regards,> Krishna> > vinita kumar <shankar_mamta wrote:> Dear all,> > Sometime back Shreenadh provided an aphorism to predict the job of a > native.> > > <==> > One of the major method to determine the job of a native > is "Karmesasya> > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida"

(Phaladeepika) > meaning, "the > > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa lord > of the> > 10th house lord from Natal lagna"> > Of course, there are caveats to this as he explained in message no. > 5778.> > i now have a "handsome" collection of 3 horoscopes (LOL!) of budding > or practising lawyers from message nos. 5829 (Seetharamana ji's > quiz); 5905 and 5911. (Thanks Renuji for your help in this regard)> These horoscopes do not have any planet in the 10th house excepting > for Ketu in one case.> > In the first case 10th house is ruled by Venus which is placed in > the amsa of Gemini in Navamsa. Mercury is placed with Mars in the > house of Mercury (Virgo) in Rasi> > In the second case (message no, 5905), the 10th house though > occupied by Ketu is ruled by Mercury (Virgo) whereas Mercury itself >

is placed in the amsa of Aries in Navamsa while Mars is placed in > the House of Saturn (Acquarius) in Rasi but there is an exchange > (parivartana yoga) between Mars and Saturn placed in Scorpio.> > In the third case the lord of the 10th house is Saturn which is > placed in the amsa of Scorpio while Mars is in Scorpio with Saturn > in Rasi.(but here i could have gone wrong somewhat because i could > not find jayawardhanapura in JHL)> > Though this appears to be too simplistic but doesn't it seem that > there is a Mercury-Mars-Saturn connection for lawyer profession??? > The connection with Mercury one can understand as one requires good > oral and written skills for arguing cases/preparing briefs. Mars of > course signifies disputes. But what is the Saturn connection??? if > there is any such connection at all!!!> > i am waiting for somebody to

say 3 swallows don't make > summer!...which, of course, is true!!!> > warm regards,> vinita> > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search.>

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