Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Dear Amer Abbas, The date of birth that is in circulation in India is 23rd June 1953, 16:30, Karachi. This seems to be authentic for the prediction by my Jyotish_Guru Sri K.N. Rao has been successfully predicted it earlies also. I would request you if you can get her mother's {i.e Benazir Bhutto's mother} birth data it would be very great....for it is rare that to see that "her" entire family perishing in front her eyes, ......delineation of her horoscope can give insight into the combinations {already stated in our ancient_astro_classics} and its testing..... Zulfikar was hanged to death, Her brothers were shot dead in France under mysterious circumstances, Benazir death is now known to all......her mother is the only survivor....see the agony of this lady that she is surving to see all her members dying one after the other.... with regards, sreeram_srinivas , "Amer Abbas" <farg135 wrote:>> Dear Friends> > Ex Prime Minister of Pakistan Benazir Bhutto was today assasinated at > around 16:00.... 27th Dec 2007> > Birth Data > > Benazir BHUTTO> Jun 21 1953, 7:32 pm, USZ4 -5:00> Karachi Pakistan, 24°N52', 067°E03'> > Amer Shah> Pakistan> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Hare ramakrishna, dear sreeram ji , I hav a solid information passed on to me long b4 that Beagum benazir was not the only dughter and she has other sister who is still alive ,Tho sri K N rao has valid reasons to use the data as it was handed over to him by sri natwar singh who personaly got this data from benazir itself . for u r reading i will re produce the mail Dear Sunil Sir, Benazir is not the remaining child of her parents,her sister SanamBhutto is still alive.Yes,she has confirmed that she is arriving on 18th October.Her deal with Musharaff is nearly completed,yesterday he also announced that all cases against her,are going to be withdrawn by thegovernment.==================== Regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote:>> > Dear Amer Abbas,> > The date of birth that is in circulation in India is 23rd June 1953,> 16:30, Karachi. This seems to be authentic for the prediction by my> Jyotish_Guru Sri K.N. Rao has been successfully predicted it earlies> also.> > I would request you if you can get her mother's {i.e Benazir Bhutto's> mother} birth data it would be very great....for it is rare that to see> that "her" entire family perishing in front her eyes, ......delineation> of her horoscope can give insight into the combinations {already stated> in our ancient_astro_classics} and its testing.....> > Zulfikar was hanged to death, Her brothers were shot dead in France> under mysterious circumstances, Benazir death is now known to> all......her mother is the only survivor....see the agony of this lady> that she is surving to see all her members dying one after the other....> > with regards,> > sreeram_srinivas> > > , "Amer Abbas"> farg135@ wrote:> >> > Dear Friends> >> > Ex Prime Minister of Pakistan Benazir Bhutto was today assasinated at> > around 16:00.... 27th Dec 2007> >> > Birth Data> >> > Benazir BHUTTO> > Jun 21 1953, 7:32 pm, USZ4 -5:00> > Karachi Pakistan, 24°N52', 067°E03'> >> > Amer Shah> > Pakistan> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Dear Srinivasji, The role of Saturn, Ketu yuti and their combined aspect on Rahu and the role of moon as a "TRIGGER" has to be seen and studied by the seniors like yourself, Sreenadji, Goelji, and all the others. As i have said before astrology can predict things which science cannot and this must be used. Also your request for Mrs Benezir's mother's specs may show Saturn in the 8th house as I had read somewhere that such a person visits the cremetorium many times to bide farewell to his relatives including his younger generation. Though sad this incident does not surprise me and I also forsee a large scale outbreak of birdflu or any airborne epidemic before Saturn parts from Rahu-Ketu. Thanks & Regards. --- On Fri, 28/12/07, sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote: sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 Re: Ex Prime Minister of Pakistan Benazir Date: Friday, 28 December, 2007, 7:26 AM Dear Amer Abbas, The date of birth that is in circulation in India is 23rd June 1953, 16:30, Karachi. This seems to be authentic for the prediction by my Jyotish_Guru Sri K.N. Rao has been successfully predicted it earlies also. I would request you if you can get her mother's {i.e Benazir Bhutto's mother} birth data it would be very great....for it is rare that to see that "her" entire family perishing in front her eyes, ......delineation of her horoscope can give insight into the combinations {already stated in our ancient_astro_ classics} and its testing..... Zulfikar was hanged to death, Her brothers were shot dead in France under mysterious circumstances, Benazir death is now known to all......her mother is the only survivor.... see the agony of this lady that she is surving to see all her members dying one after the other.... with regards, sreeram_srinivas ancient_indian_ astrology, "Amer Abbas" <farg135 wrote:>> Dear Friends> > Ex Prime Minister of Pakistan Benazir Bhutto was today assasinated at > around 16:00.... 27th Dec 2007> > Birth Data > > Benazir BHUTTO> Jun 21 1953, 7:32 pm, USZ4 -5:00> Karachi Pakistan, 24°N52', 067°E03'> > Amer Shah> Pakistan> Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Click here to know how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Dear Chiranjiv, The points you made in your posting are very true and have their logical basis. The major problem in all such politician's hororscope is the multiple sets of birthdata floating in internet. I for reasons of personal reasons tend to believe that the data 21-June-1953, 20:15hrs, Karachi is correct, for Benazir is known for her focus, rather than making witty or intelligent or diplomatic statements i.e. Not good at navigating in political discussions. She has run her party with a tight grip - do not know if her mother had some role in it or but cannot ignore Benazir own style. I did internet search on her birth data and in many cases, people having direct connection or having met the Benazir mother stand by 21-June-1953. Sri K.N. Rao's insistence that the data is given by Mr. Natwar Singh i.e. Benazir herself gave it to Mr. Natwar Singh - the statement makes it more intriguing When casted horoscope with Sri Rao's referred birth data, the chart that he used on his official website, does not tally i.e. The Lagna Sri Rao K.N got is Libra, while using the birth data 23-June-1953 gives you Scorpio Lagna. The Lagna changes to Sagittarius with 21-June-1953, 20:15 hrs. I have checked up the war time correction...etc... for the year 1953....etc.. while doing above calculations manually & use of software including Future Point Software + Jhora. So in total we have 3 versions. going through the entire exercise of checking the events..etc. in our limited time, make it tiresome - the very thought of it. Further let me say some events may be convincingly tally few may not. Then the theory of probability creeps in...making the exercise again doubtful.....or subjective. I am in touch with another senior astro already kick-started some work on the available birth data & versions..... with regards, sreeram_srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Dear sreeram srinivas Jee The data i sent u was used by many prominent astrologers of Pakistan including my Guru Jee Dr Mohammad Ayub Taji and Dr Mohammad Ijaz and many more and even by me to predict accurately about her deal with musharraf in my Newspaper and was also used by ourseniour Journalist MR Khalid Choudhry who broke the news of Bibis Deal with Musharaf. Best Regards Amer Abbas Shah , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64 wrote: > > > Dear Chiranjiv, > > The points you made in your posting are very true and have their logical > basis. The major problem in all such politician's hororscope is the > multiple sets of birthdata floating in internet. I for reasons of > personal reasons tend to believe that the data 21-June-1953, 20:15hrs, > Karachi is correct, for Benazir is known for her focus, rather than > making witty or intelligent or diplomatic statements i.e. Not good at > navigating in political discussions. She has run her party with a tight > grip - do not know if her mother had some role in it or but cannot > ignore Benazir own style. I did internet search on her birth data and > in many cases, people having direct connection or having met the Benazir > mother stand by 21-June-1953. > > Sri K.N. Rao's insistence that the data is given by Mr. Natwar Singh > i.e. Benazir herself gave it to Mr. Natwar Singh - the statement makes > it more intriguing > > When casted horoscope with Sri Rao's referred birth data, the chart that > he used on his official website, does not tally i.e. The Lagna Sri Rao > K.N got is Libra, while using the birth data 23-June-1953 gives you > Scorpio Lagna. > > The Lagna changes to Sagittarius with 21-June-1953, 20:15 hrs. > > I have checked up the war time correction...etc... for the year > 1953....etc.. while doing above calculations manually & use of software > including Future Point Software + Jhora. > > So in total we have 3 versions. going through the entire exercise of > checking the events..etc. in our limited time, make it tiresome - the > very thought of it. Further let me say some events may be convincingly > tally few may not. Then the theory of probability creeps in...making > the exercise again doubtful.....or subjective. > > I am in touch with another senior astro already kick-started some work > on the available birth data & versions..... > > with regards, > > sreeram_srinivas > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Dear Amer Abbas Shah bhai, Thank you very much for the re-assurance on the birth data, will use that for I am fairly convinced about 21-June-1953. Should you have any other important political personalities in Pakistan, would appreciate it. For I personally feel that advent of 2HL & 7HL Venus Mahadasha in the independence chart of Pakistan, would usher prosperity to Pakistan. the another problem was the Ketu Mahadasha ended on 223-24 Dec. 2007 and the event happened on 27-Dec. 22007 of Benazir....Dasha chidra in action, Ketu complete, Venus taking over, Venus - Benazir...which by current{Transit} planetary placements is seriously afflicted...... For those interested in the stock markets and want to make money, invest in good companies, Pakistan would surely raise. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas , " Amer Abbas " <farg135 wrote: > > Dear sreeram srinivas Jee > > The data i sent u was used by many prominent astrologers of Pakistan > including my Guru Jee Dr Mohammad Ayub Taji and Dr Mohammad Ijaz and > many more and even by me to predict accurately about her deal with > musharraf in my Newspaper and was also used by ourseniour Journalist > MR Khalid Choudhry who broke the news of Bibis Deal with Musharaf. > > Best Regards > > Amer Abbas Shah > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Dear Srinivas ji and Amer ji,==>> I for reasons of personal reasons tend to believe that the data 21-June-1953, 20:15hrs,> Karachi is correct.<== Me too checked the chart with almost 4 variants of data (3 for 23-June and this one for 21-June) and is of the personal opinion that this one is the correct data. But this is a non-rectified BT and possibly BT correction applied to this time will reflect more accurate results. It is only as per this data that - * The Dasa and Antara of 64th Navamsa and 22nd Drekkana lords were running. * The Moon was transiting the 8th sign from Lagna * Mars (the 12th lord) was transiting the sign it is present in the Natal chart.Regards,Sreenadh , "Amer Abbas" <farg135 wrote:>> Dear sreeram srinivas Jee> > The data i sent u was used by many prominent astrologers of Pakistan > including my Guru Jee Dr Mohammad Ayub Taji and Dr Mohammad Ijaz and > many more and even by me to predict accurately about her deal with > musharraf in my Newspaper and was also used by ourseniour Journalist > MR Khalid Choudhry who broke the news of Bibis Deal with Musharaf.> > Best Regards> > Amer Abbas Shah> > , "sreeram srinivas" > sreeram64@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Chiranjiv,> > > > The points you made in your posting are very true and have their > logical> > basis. The major problem in all such politician's hororscope is > the> > multiple sets of birthdata floating in internet. I for reasons of> > personal reasons tend to believe that the data 21-June-1953, > 20:15hrs,> > Karachi is correct, for Benazir is known for her focus, rather than> > making witty or intelligent or diplomatic statements i.e. Not good > at> > navigating in political discussions. She has run her party with a > tight> > grip - do not know if her mother had some role in it or but cannot> > ignore Benazir own style. I did internet search on her birth data > and> > in many cases, people having direct connection or having met the > Benazir> > mother stand by 21-June-1953.> > > > Sri K.N. Rao's insistence that the data is given by Mr. Natwar Singh> > i.e. Benazir herself gave it to Mr. Natwar Singh - the statement > makes> > it more intriguing> > > > When casted horoscope with Sri Rao's referred birth data, the chart > that> > he used on his official website, does not tally i.e. The Lagna Sri > Rao> > K.N got is Libra, while using the birth data 23-June-1953 gives you> > Scorpio Lagna.> > > > The Lagna changes to Sagittarius with 21-June-1953, 20:15 hrs.> > > > I have checked up the war time correction...etc... for the year> > 1953....etc.. while doing above calculations manually & use of > software> > including Future Point Software + Jhora.> > > > So in total we have 3 versions. going through the entire exercise > of> > checking the events..etc. in our limited time, make it tiresome - > the> > very thought of it. Further let me say some events may be > convincingly> > tally few may not. Then the theory of probability creeps > in...making> > the exercise again doubtful.....or subjective.> > > > I am in touch with another senior astro already kick-started some > work> > on the available birth data & versions.....> > > > with regards,> > > > sreeram_srinivas> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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