RE:Reason Job of the native - Answer!

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Dear All, Thanks to all those who have responded. I did not post this case to test anyone's knowledge. Even after knowing the profession of the native, it was a challenge for me to see it logically by reading the horoscope. I wanted to know what all approaches people might employ to correctly identify the profession. I notice that the following people have responded to my request: Ash Sreenadh Ramesh Mishra Kiran Durga Everyone has identified that Mercury could be the planet influencing profession. Ash pointed out that the person is sharp (intelligent), that is correct. Kiran has mentioned that the native got a boost in his career between 2002 to 2005, that is close. But, only Ramesh Mishra ji was correct in idenifying the right profession. The native is a practicing Lawyer for more than 20

years now! He has not done anything else since he gradutated as a lawyer. Possibly, the missing angle: Once it was identified that Mercury rules profession, probably it was necessary to also look at what are the planets that Mercury influences in the Rasi Chart. In this particular case, Mars is with Mercury and both of them have Jupiter as samasaptaka. Notice the exact aspect between Mars and Jupiter! In my personal opinion, the exact aspect is as strong as a conjunction (Sreenadh ji, I am not saying that they are same ). I guess this Mars/Jup combo made him a lawyer. This is my take and I hope to get comments from you. I could only look at this angle as I knew the answer. Otherwise, I would have also missed it. More details about the native: His qualification is BSc., LLB. After he completed his

education he joined a reputed lawyer's office in Bangalore as an assistant (around 1986). Slowly, he started handling small cases independently. Later, he just dependeded on his boss to pass on the cases that were coming to him. His boss was getting more than he could handle and would pass on the cases to other lawyers under his umbrella for a fee. As time passed, the native was only using the office space of his boss and was was independent for all practical purposes as people started to approach him directly. His boss also did not mind this as he was also having enough clients. Mars is the yogakaraka for the chart and Mercury is exalted. I think his fortunes improved considerably during Mercury-Mars period. I could see this as he bought a big car during this period (2001). In 2005 (Mer-Jup, according to Lahiri), he opened his own office and came out of the shadow of his boss. Now he has hired an

assitant lawyer and a steno to help him out and to do the leg work. Hope this excercise has opened up a new angle to focus on. In any case, I hope Mishra ji will share with us his reasoning for identifying the profession as Lawyer. Regards, Krishna Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear Durga ji, Thanks for participating

in the discussion. I humbly request you to be more active in the group - so that we may get a better learning/interaction experience. I feel like totally agreeing with you - since Mercury in 2nd combined with the Sun in lagna (in Dasa-Antara) seems to indicate an apt combination for a - * head teacher - head of department? headmaster? own school/collage? * Banking/Insurance - Private bank? Administrative/Managerial post? But the 3rd major choice comes to mind is - * Why don't a powerful adviser/politician or with Sun in lagna, Saturn in 6th, Mercury with Mars in 2nd, and Me-Ju navamsa in 7th ? (I know that you won't appreciate the non-systematic logic applied) Any way it seems that the major carrier of the native started late in life in his Middle Thirties. Let us all wait till Krishan ji reveals the truth - confirming or negating our reading. Love and

regards,Sreenadh , "durga050" <durga050 wrote: Namastae Krishnaji, In my assessment , he is either in teaching /Banking (Insurance) profession Durga > , Krishnamurthy> Seetharama krishna_1998@ wrote:> >> > Dear All,> >> > A good discussion is going on on Profession. I would like to present a> chart and ask if anyone can come up with the profession of the following> native:> >> > Sex: Male> > DOB: Aug 26, 1963> > TOB: 7:05 am> > POB: Bangalore> >> > I don't need any reading on this

chart, hence this is not a chart> reading request. I know this person for about 20 years. I know the birth> details of are pretty accurate. His father was interested in astrology> and hence has made a careful record of his son's birth time. I want> members to just come up with the pssoible profession of this native.> >> > Regards,> > Krishna> >> > Ash kas@ wrote:> > Dear Chakraborty,> >> > 10th lord from Lagna is Venus and Venus is in navamsa of Jupiter> > Planets in 10th house are Venus and Venus is again in navamsa of Ju> > Ma is in 10th house and it is in navamsa of Mars> > Ra is in navamsa of Sa.> >> >> > 10th lord from Moon is Mars and Mars is in navamsa of Sco so ruled by> Mars> >> > 10th lord from Sun is Gemini ruled by Mercury and Mercury is in> navamsa of

Saturn.> >> > So career giving planets are Ma, Sa, Ju, Ju.> >> > You also have Venus who is with 3 bindus in 10th house so again it> shows good skills in management with more of artistic touch.> >> > Now, Bring these planets back into Rasi.> >> > Ma is in 10th house so house of authority and its in sign of Libra> > Sa is in 7th house and its in watery sign of Cancer> > Jupiter is in 5th house in the fixed sign of Taurus.> >> > So this can show Metallurgical Engineering related to Mo and Ve (so> can be petroleum or some liquids) and also Management or advisory role> ? Ju or consulting.> >> > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> >> >> > > >> >

> On Behalf Of> Chakraborty, PL> > Tuesday December 25, 2007 11:26 PM> > ' '> > RE: Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of> the native> >> >> > Dear Sreenadh-ji,> >> > Following are the details.> >> >> >> > DOB : October 6, 1976> >> > TOB : 13:30 hrs (+/- 5 min)> >> > Kolkata, 88 E 22, 22N34,> >> > And he insists that 10H has Ma+Ve+Ra in> >> > his original Kundli at home.> >> >> >> > He is a Metallurgical engr, worked for 1.5 yrs in> >> > Hindustan Motors (ambassador car

factory)> >> > and then IOCL (Sept 2000-07 Jul).> >> >> >> > Regards> >> >> >> > Chakraborty> >> > > > Sreenadh [sreesog@]> > Wednesday, December 26, 2007 9:33 AM> > > > Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the> native> > Dear Chakraborty ji,> > First thig first - provide the date of birth with time and location.> Let me see the chart and then I will reply.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > , "Chakraborty, PL"> CHAKRABORTYP2@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh,> > >> > > I am also going thru'

your mail and learning things.> > >> > > One question, if you please.> > >> > > What happens when 10H from Lagna has 2 / 3 planets ?> > >> > > One of my Junior has Cp lagna and Ma, Ve and Rahu in 10H.> > > He is undergoing Mer-Ve-Mer (Vim. dasha). (Mercury exalted> > > with Sun in Virgo.). 10H lord Ve sits in Pisces in Navamsha.> > >> > > He left his job in Mer-Ven-sat and trying to get a job in Gulf.> > >> > > So, how do I apply the techniques here ?> > >> > > 10H L is venus.. not connected to his job (engineer).> > > Rahu and Mars may signify petroleum and engg.> > > But no connection to Sun (he was in a PSU).> > > 2H is moon (parivartana with sat in Cn).> > > 10H lord in pisces ...again does not signify engg.> > > 2H has Moon

and 11H is empty.> > >> > > 'Looking forward to reply.> > >> > > Regards> > > Chakra> > >> > > > > > Sreenadh [sreesog@]> > > Monday, December 24, 2007 7:33 PM> > > > > > Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of> the> > > native> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Vinita ji,> > > Lol....! That won't work always.. Note that "it is one of the> > > methods" But still, when I say so, I should clarify some of the> other> > > possibilities as well.> > > 1) Income should be predicted based on the significance of the> planet> > > present in 10th House from

Lagna, Moon, or Sun. i.e. First check> whether> > > there is a planet in 10th from Lagna, if not check whether there is> a planet> > > in 10th from Moon, if not check whether there is a planet in 10th> from Sun.> > > The said planet will provide income (job) based on its significance> at some> > > point of time for sure. (Yes, proper Dasa or Antara can be> considered)> > > 2) The benefic planets in 11-2-Lagna will provide income from> different> > > sources during their corresponding Dasa-Antara. Thus Job could be> related to> > > this as well in the corresponding periods.> > > 3) The Navamsa lord of the 10 HL can indicate the job. (But try> using it> > > only after seeing the possibilities indicated by the first two)> > > Note that in the said horoscope, the first choice was not

applicable> due to> > > the absence of planets in 10th. Even the Ra in 10th was supposed to> give the> > > result fo Venus the 10th lord from Lagna and Moon (Lagna and Moon> was in> > > Leo). Thus I went for the Navamsa lord of the 10th House and that> was Mars -> > > clearly explaining why the job was as a government servant, that too> in> > > army. > > > Note: Do you see some lesson from the above note? > > > Love and regards,> > > Sreenadh> > >> > > , "vinita kumar"> > > shankar_mamta@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Shreenadh, i can only say WOW!!!> > > >> > > > tried to check this with the chart of another native who is a> govt.> > > > servant. The lagna

is Taurus, so the 10th lord is Saturn. In> > > > Navamsa, Saturn is in the amsa of Saggi while Jupiter in natal> chart> > > > is conjoined with the Sun. Did i follow the steps correctly?> > > >> > > > , "Sreenadh"> > > > sreesog@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Remesh ji,> > > > > ==>> > > > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > > > > prediction.> > > > > <==> > > > > I totally agree with the above statement of yours. > > > > > ==>> > > > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > > > > servant ? I could not find it out till now?> > > > > <==> > >

> > That is some thing cute, and because of that statement I got> > > > > interested in the said horoscope. I hope the following is the> > > > birth> > > > > details under discussion.> > > > > ==>> > > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > > > INDIA.> > > > > <==> > > > > One of the major method to determine the job of a native> > > > is "Karmesasya> > > > > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida" (Phaladeepika)> > > > meaning, "the> > > > > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa> lord> > > > of the> > > > > 10th house lord from Natal

lagna"> > > > > In the said horoscope, Lagna is Leo, 10th house is Tarus (with> > > > Ra in> > > > > it), 10th lord is Ve. The navamsa of Ve falls in Scorpio and Ve> is> > > > > situated in Lagna Leo itself. Thus -> > > > > Karmesa = Ve> > > > > Karmesasya navamsa rasipa = lord of Scorpio = Ma.> > > > > Thus Mars is should signify the job of the native in the said> > > > > horoscope. With the 10th lord Ve in Leo (lord of Leo Sun is the> > > > > significator of Government) and also with Mars as the> significator> > > > of> > > > > the job it no wonder that the native "is a govt, servant and> that> > > > to0 in> > > > > armed forces".> > > > > Hope the methodology and explanation is clear.> >

> > > Love and regards,> > > > > Sreenadh> > > > >> > > > > , ramesh mishra> > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Jyothi Ji,> > > > > > Namaskar,> > > > > > I do appreciate your comments.> > > > > > I am not biased to any system.> > > > > > But ofcourse, I give priority no.1 to KAS.> > > > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > > > > prediction.> > > > > > I have experienced VA more complicated and confusing> > > > > > for timing any event.> > > > > > Now as for the chart, the native's married life is not> > > > > > ok

and sometimes there is querrelling among them and> > > > > > the situation becomes so nasty both of them becomes> > > > > > ready to divorce but after few hours everything comes> > > > > > to normal and they live together happily for months> > > > > > together.> > > > > > Nobody knows when the happy situation will take turn.> > > > > > As far as I know native never faced depression.> > > > > > He never went abroad and no chances in future also> > > > > > because his financial condition is not so strong.> > > > > > He has been mostly visiting many places in India.> > > > > > He took birth in a small village but after 4 years of> > > > > > birth he never stayed in his birth place .> > > > > > As I have stated in my

mail he is a govt,servant and> > > > > > that to in armed forces.> > > > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > > > > servant ?> > > > > > I could not find it out till now?> > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > >> > > > > > --- jyothi_b_lakshmi jyothi_b_lakshmi@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal> > > > > > > importance to 6th> > > > > > > lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing> > > > > > > divorce. I do not> > > > > > > know why you

overlooked what I said about 6th lord> > > > > > > aspecting 7th and> > > > > > > tried to negate my reasoning by emphasising on 7th> > > > > > > lord in 12th. May> > > > > > > be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt> > > > > > > like putting down> > > > > > > what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying> > > > > > > reasoning by KAS> > > > > > > alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying> > > > > > > to integrate the> > > > > > > working points from all systems and trying to apply> > > > > > > them for my> > > > > > > learning. I am trying to pick up the best and> > > > > > > plausible clues from> > > > > >

> all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying> > > > > > > to learn from> > > > > > > them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much.> > > > > > > Whatever methods> > > > > > > we follow, all must lead to the same results, that> > > > > > > is what astrology> > > > > > > must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody> > > > > > > can create their> > > > > > > own branches of this divine science and destroy it.> > > > > > > So please do not> > > > > > > try to crucify me at the first instance.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot> > > > > > > create an event. My> > > > > >

> sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not> > > > > > > divorced,> > > > > > > (Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is> > > > > > > in 12th it need> > > > > > > not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a> > > > > > > friendly sign can> > > > > > > modify the effects, can be just separation, husband> > > > > > > staying away due> > > > > > > to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord> > > > > > > can modify the> > > > > > > effects. A lot of other factors need to be> > > > > > > considered. I am not a> > > > > > > pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings> > > > > > > from whatever I> > > >

> > > have read so far. Anyways I do believe that position> > > > > > > of 7th lord in> > > > > > > 12th does negatively affect marital harmony. This> > > > > > > what I have> > > > > > > observed.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and> > > > > > > 12th lord Moon are> > > > > > > in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon> > > > > > > being in its own> > > > > > > sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th.> > > > > > > The negative> > > > > > > effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord> > > > > > > saturn with moon in> > > > > > > 12th, taking into account the

opposite nature of> > > > > > > these planets, their> > > > > > > life can be very cold and indifferent without any> > > > > > > emotions towards> > > > > > > each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with> > > > > > > legal issues, court> > > > > > > cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce)> > > > > > > effects of saturn> > > > > > > is less when compared with 7th house effects because> > > > > > > 7th (Aquarius)> > > > > > > is the moola trikona of saturn. What I have> > > > > > > understood is if a planet> > > > > > > owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona, the result> > > > > > > of moola trikona> > > > > > >

predominates. So again the chances of staying> > > > > > > together gains weight> > > > > > > than getting legally separated.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Viewing in another angle, without considering the> > > > > > > exchange efects,> > > > > > > let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna> > > > > > > lord. As per what I> > > > > > > know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive> > > > > > > results to the houses> > > > > > > he is associated with by means of position, aspect,> > > > > > > association with> > > > > > > lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna> > > > > > > lord tries to> > > > > > > impart positive

results for 7th as it is in> > > > > > > conjunction with 7th> > > > > > > lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being together> > > > > > > shows the native> > > > > > > and his partner trying to stick together> > > > > > > irrespective of the> > > > > > > differences.> > > > > > > These are the reasons I can find with my minimal> > > > > > > knowledge. If I am> > > > > > > wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I> > > > > > > think this> > > > > > > person's married life is as good as separated.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > For my learning, can you please let me know the> > > > > > > personlity of this> > >

> > > > person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily> > > > > > > depressed? Also> > > > > > > was he always in his native place or did he go> > > > > > > abroad any time? Does> > > > > > > he have any serious health problems?> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > Jyothi> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ,> > > > > > > ramesh mishra> > > > > > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > Dear Jyothi, Ash and all,> > > > > > > > I give you one chart of a male native who is> > > > > > > closely related to> > > > > > > me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and 2nd> > > > > > > lord occupy 12th> > > > > > > house.> > > > > > > > According to the verdict of Jyothi he should> > > > > > > have divorced his> > > > > > > spouse> > > > > > > > because of 7th lord in 12th.> > > > > > > > In fact it is not so. They married 38 years> > > > > > > before and still> > > > > > > living together.No doubt there married life is hell> > > > > > > but staying> > > >

> > > together.> > > > > > > > Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he> > > > > > > was not> > > > > > > divorced ?> > > > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > > > > INDIA.> > > > > > > > He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters.> > > > > > > > He served in defence forces in IAF and took> > > > > > > volunteerly> > > > > > > retirement after doing service in armed forces.> > > > > > > > Again after two years of retirement he got a job> > > > > > > in central> > > > > > > government.> > > >

> > > > Between this period of two years, he was not> > > > > > > jobless.He has been> > > > > > > doing job in a private co.> > > > > > > > If she can analyse it will be good learning for> > > > > > > us.> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > Ash kas@ wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Jyothi,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Here 2 laws of KAS are matching.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt.> > > > > > > > 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and> > > > > > > aspecting 7th> > > > > > > house in

Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa.> > > > > > > > 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8> > > > > > > points, and such> > > > > > > marriages will break in highest power planet so> > > > > > > dasha of Saturn when> > > > > > > it came it will break the marriage.> > > > > > > > 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3> > > > > > > zeroes in SAV.> > > > > > > Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn,> > > > > > > will stick to> > > > > > > her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so> > > > > > > difference is much> > > > >

> > more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons,> > > > > > > ego are very> > > > > > > fragile.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of> > > > > > > Ju and breaks in> > > > > > > Ju. As per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws> > > > > > > of KAS i.e.> > > > > > > Marriage in lowest power planet will break in> > > > > > > Highest power planet of> > > > > > > 6th or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is> > > > > > > very powerful,> > > > > > > being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E> > > > > > > along with Karak> > > > > > > i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the

chart.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Marriage in 6th lord's antra which is only 8> > > > > > > points in 7th house> > > > > > > and breaks in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th> > > > > > > house> > > > > > === message truncated ===> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Go to> > > > > http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway. The> information contained in this electronic message and any

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