Guest guest Posted December 25, 2007 Report Share Posted December 25, 2007 Dear Chakraborty, 10th lord from Lagna is Venus and Venus is in navamsa of Jupiter Planets in 10th house are Venus and Venus is again in navamsa of Ju Ma is in 10th house and it is in navamsa of Mars Ra is in navamsa of Sa. 10th lord from Moon is Mars and Mars is in navamsa of Sco so ruled by Mars 10th lord from Sun is Gemini ruled by Mercury and Mercury is in navamsa of Saturn. So career giving planets are Ma, Sa, Ju, Ju. You also have Venus who is with 3 bindus in 10th house so again it shows good skills in management with more of artistic touch. Now, Bring these planets back into Rasi. Ma is in 10th house so house of authority and its in sign of Libra Sa is in 7th house and its in watery sign of Cancer Jupiter is in 5th house in the fixed sign of Taurus. So this can show Metallurgical Engineering related to Mo and Ve (so can be petroleum or some liquids) and also Management or advisory role – Ju or consulting. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Chakraborty, PL Tuesday December 25, 2007 11:26 PM ' ' RE: Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the native Dear Sreenadh-ji, Following are the details. DOB : October 6, 1976 TOB : 13:30 hrs (+/- 5 min) Kolkata, 88 E 22, 22N34, And he insists that 10H has Ma+Ve+Ra in his original Kundli at home. He is a Metallurgical engr, worked for 1.5 yrs in Hindustan Motors (ambassador car factory) and then IOCL (Sept 2000-07 Jul). Regards Chakraborty Sreenadh [sreesog ] Wednesday, December 26, 2007 9:33 AM Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the native Dear Chakraborty ji, First thig first - provide the date of birth with time and location. Let me see the chart and then I will reply. Love and regards, Sreenadh , " Chakraborty, PL " <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote: > > Dear Sreenadh, > > I am also going thru' your mail and learning things. > > One question, if you please. > > What happens when 10H from Lagna has 2 / 3 planets ? > > One of my Junior has Cp lagna and Ma, Ve and Rahu in 10H. > He is undergoing Mer-Ve-Mer (Vim. dasha). (Mercury exalted > with Sun in Virgo.). 10H lord Ve sits in Pisces in Navamsha. > > He left his job in Mer-Ven-sat and trying to get a job in Gulf. > > So, how do I apply the techniques here ? > > 10H L is venus.. not connected to his job (engineer). > Rahu and Mars may signify petroleum and engg. > But no connection to Sun (he was in a PSU). > 2H is moon (parivartana with sat in Cn). > 10H lord in pisces ...again does not signify engg. > 2H has Moon and 11H is empty. > > 'Looking forward to reply. > > Regards > Chakra > > > Sreenadh [sreesog] > Monday, December 24, 2007 7:33 PM > > Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the > native > > > > Dear Vinita ji, > Lol....! That won't work always.. Note that " it is one of the > methods " But still, when I say so, I should clarify some of the other > possibilities as well. > 1) Income should be predicted based on the significance of the planet > present in 10th House from Lagna, Moon, or Sun. i.e. First check whether > there is a planet in 10th from Lagna, if not check whether there is a planet > in 10th from Moon, if not check whether there is a planet in 10th from Sun. > The said planet will provide income (job) based on its significance at some > point of time for sure. (Yes, proper Dasa or Antara can be considered) > 2) The benefic planets in 11-2-Lagna will provide income from different > sources during their corresponding Dasa-Antara. Thus Job could be related to > this as well in the corresponding periods. > 3) The Navamsa lord of the 10 HL can indicate the job. (But try using it > only after seeing the possibilities indicated by the first two) > Note that in the said horoscope, the first choice was not applicable due to > the absence of planets in 10th. Even the Ra in 10th was supposed to give the > result fo Venus the 10th lord from Lagna and Moon (Lagna and Moon was in > Leo). Thus I went for the Navamsa lord of the 10th House and that was Mars - > clearly explaining why the job was as a government servant, that too in > army. > Note: Do you see some lesson from the above note? > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , " vinita kumar " > shankar_mamta@ wrote: > > > > Shreenadh, i can only say WOW!!! > > > > tried to check this with the chart of another native who is a govt. > > servant. The lagna is Taurus, so the 10th lord is Saturn. In > > Navamsa, Saturn is in the amsa of Saggi while Jupiter in natal chart > > is conjoined with the Sun. Did i follow the steps correctly? > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Remesh ji, > > > ==> > > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct > > > > prediction. > > > <== > > > I totally agree with the above statement of yours. > > > ==> > > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt > > > > servant ? I could not find it out till now? > > > <== > > > That is some thing cute, and because of that statement I got > > > interested in the said horoscope. I hope the following is the > > birth > > > details under discussion. > > > ==> > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N > > > > 46, 84 E 23 > > > > > INDIA. > > > <== > > > One of the major method to determine the job of a native > > is " Karmesasya > > > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida " (Phaladeepika) > > meaning, " the > > > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa lord > > of the > > > 10th house lord from Natal lagna " > > > In the said horoscope, Lagna is Leo, 10th house is Tarus (with > > Ra in > > > it), 10th lord is Ve. The navamsa of Ve falls in Scorpio and Ve is > > > situated in Lagna Leo itself. Thus - > > > Karmesa = Ve > > > Karmesasya navamsa rasipa = lord of Scorpio = Ma. > > > Thus Mars is should signify the job of the native in the said > > > horoscope. With the 10th lord Ve in Leo (lord of Leo Sun is the > > > significator of Government) and also with Mars as the significator > > of > > > the job it no wonder that the native " is a govt, servant and that > > to0 in > > > armed forces " . > > > Hope the methodology and explanation is clear. > > > Love and regards, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > , ramesh mishra > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Jyothi Ji, > > > > Namaskar, > > > > I do appreciate your comments. > > > > I am not biased to any system. > > > > But ofcourse, I give priority no.1 to KAS. > > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct > > > > prediction. > > > > I have experienced VA more complicated and confusing > > > > for timing any event. > > > > Now as for the chart, the native's married life is not > > > > ok and sometimes there is querrelling among them and > > > > the situation becomes so nasty both of them becomes > > > > ready to divorce but after few hours everything comes > > > > to normal and they live together happily for months > > > > together. > > > > Nobody knows when the happy situation will take turn. > > > > As far as I know native never faced depression. > > > > He never went abroad and no chances in future also > > > > because his financial condition is not so strong. > > > > He has been mostly visiting many places in India. > > > > He took birth in a small village but after 4 years of > > > > birth he never stayed in his birth place . > > > > As I have stated in my mail he is a govt,servant and > > > > that to in armed forces. > > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt > > > > servant ? > > > > I could not find it out till now? > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > --- jyothi_b_lakshmi jyothi_b_lakshmi@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal > > > > > importance to 6th > > > > > lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing > > > > > divorce. I do not > > > > > know why you overlooked what I said about 6th lord > > > > > aspecting 7th and > > > > > tried to negate my reasoning by emphasising on 7th > > > > > lord in 12th. May > > > > > be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt > > > > > like putting down > > > > > what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying > > > > > reasoning by KAS > > > > > alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying > > > > > to integrate the > > > > > working points from all systems and trying to apply > > > > > them for my > > > > > learning. I am trying to pick up the best and > > > > > plausible clues from > > > > > all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying > > > > > to learn from > > > > > them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much. > > > > > Whatever methods > > > > > we follow, all must lead to the same results, that > > > > > is what astrology > > > > > must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody > > > > > can create their > > > > > own branches of this divine science and destroy it. > > > > > So please do not > > > > > try to crucify me at the first instance. > > > > > > > > > > Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot > > > > > create an event. My > > > > > sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not > > > > > divorced, > > > > > (Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is > > > > > in 12th it need > > > > > not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a > > > > > friendly sign can > > > > > modify the effects, can be just separation, husband > > > > > staying away due > > > > > to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord > > > > > can modify the > > > > > effects. A lot of other factors need to be > > > > > considered. I am not a > > > > > pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings > > > > > from whatever I > > > > > have read so far. Anyways I do believe that position > > > > > of 7th lord in > > > > > 12th does negatively affect marital harmony. This > > > > > what I have > > > > > observed. > > > > > > > > > > Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and > > > > > 12th lord Moon are > > > > > in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon > > > > > being in its own > > > > > sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th. > > > > > The negative > > > > > effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord > > > > > saturn with moon in > > > > > 12th, taking into account the opposite nature of > > > > > these planets, their > > > > > life can be very cold and indifferent without any > > > > > emotions towards > > > > > each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with > > > > > legal issues, court > > > > > cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce) > > > > > effects of saturn > > > > > is less when compared with 7th house effects because > > > > > 7th (Aquarius) > > > > > is the moola trikona of saturn. What I have > > > > > understood is if a planet > > > > > owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona, the result > > > > > of moola trikona > > > > > predominates. So again the chances of staying > > > > > together gains weight > > > > > than getting legally separated. > > > > > > > > > > Viewing in another angle, without considering the > > > > > exchange efects, > > > > > let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna > > > > > lord. As per what I > > > > > know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive > > > > > results to the houses > > > > > he is associated with by means of position, aspect, > > > > > association with > > > > > lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna > > > > > lord tries to > > > > > impart positive results for 7th as it is in > > > > > conjunction with 7th > > > > > lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being together > > > > > shows the native > > > > > and his partner trying to stick together > > > > > irrespective of the > > > > > differences. > > > > > These are the reasons I can find with my minimal > > > > > knowledge. If I am > > > > > wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I > > > > > think this > > > > > person's married life is as good as separated. > > > > > > > > > > For my learning, can you please let me know the > > > > > personlity of this > > > > > person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily > > > > > depressed? Also > > > > > was he always in his native place or did he go > > > > > abroad any time? Does > > > > > he have any serious health problems? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Jyothi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > ramesh mishra > > > > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jyothi, Ash and all, > > > > > > I give you one chart of a male native who is > > > > > closely related to > > > > > me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and 2nd > > > > > lord occupy 12th > > > > > house. > > > > > > According to the verdict of Jyothi he should > > > > > have divorced his > > > > > spouse > > > > > > because of 7th lord in 12th. > > > > > > In fact it is not so. They married 38 years > > > > > before and still > > > > > living together.No doubt there married life is hell > > > > > but staying > > > > > together. > > > > > > Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he > > > > > was not > > > > > divorced ? > > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB > > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N > > > > > 46, 84 E 23 > > > > > > INDIA. > > > > > > He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters. > > > > > > He served in defence forces in IAF and took > > > > > volunteerly > > > > > retirement after doing service in armed forces. > > > > > > Again after two years of retirement he got a job > > > > > in central > > > > > government. > > > > > > Between this period of two years, he was not > > > > > jobless.He has been > > > > > doing job in a private co. > > > > > > If she can analyse it will be good learning for > > > > > us. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Ash kas@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Jyothi, > > > > > > > > > > > > Here 2 laws of KAS are matching. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt. > > > > > > 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and > > > > > aspecting 7th > > > > > house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa. > > > > > > 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8 > > > > > points, and such > > > > > marriages will break in highest power planet so > > > > > dasha of Saturn when > > > > > it came it will break the marriage. > > > > > > 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3 > > > > > zeroes in SAV. > > > > > Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn, > > > > > will stick to > > > > > her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so > > > > > difference is much > > > > > more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons, > > > > > ego are very > > > > > fragile. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of > > > > > Ju and breaks in > > > > > Ju. As per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws > > > > > of KAS i.e. > > > > > Marriage in lowest power planet will break in > > > > > Highest power planet of > > > > > 6th or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is > > > > > very powerful, > > > > > being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E > > > > > along with Karak > > > > > i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Marriage in 6th lord's antra which is only 8 > > > > > points in 7th house > > > > > and breaks in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th > > > > > house > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Go to > > > http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway. 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Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Dear Ash, You are right. The perosns job is/was of supervisory + consultation nature. But it is field based with lots of menial effort. (touch of Sat ?) Regards Chakraborty Ash [kas]Wednesday, December 26, 2007 11:49 AM Subject: RE:Reason Job of the native Dear Chakraborty, 10th lord from Lagna is Venus and Venus is in navamsa of Jupiter Planets in 10th house are Venus and Venus is again in navamsa of Ju Ma is in 10th house and it is in navamsa of Mars Ra is in navamsa of Sa. 10th lord from Moon is Mars and Mars is in navamsa of Sco so ruled by Mars 10th lord from Sun is Gemini ruled by Mercury and Mercury is in navamsa of Saturn. So career giving planets are Ma, Sa, Ju, Ju. You also have Venus who is with 3 bindus in 10th house so again it shows good skills in management with more of artistic touch. Now, Bring these planets back into Rasi. Ma is in 10th house so house of authority and its in sign of Libra Sa is in 7th house and its in watery sign of Cancer Jupiter is in 5th house in the fixed sign of Taurus. So this can show Metallurgical Engineering related to Mo and Ve (so can be petroleum or some liquids) and also Management or advisory role - Ju or consulting. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Chakraborty, PLTuesday December 25, 2007 11:26 PM' 'RE: Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the native Dear Sreenadh-ji, Following are the details. DOB : October 6, 1976 TOB : 13:30 hrs (+/- 5 min) Kolkata, 88 E 22, 22N34, And he insists that 10H has Ma+Ve+Ra in his original Kundli at home. He is a Metallurgical engr, worked for 1.5 yrs in Hindustan Motors (ambassador car factory) and then IOCL (Sept 2000-07 Jul). Regards Chakraborty Sreenadh [sreesog ]Wednesday, December 26, 2007 9:33 AM Subject: Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the native Dear Chakraborty ji, First thig first - provide the date of birth with time and location. Let me see the chart and then I will reply.Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh,> > I am also going thru' your mail and learning things.> > One question, if you please.> > What happens when 10H from Lagna has 2 / 3 planets ?> > One of my Junior has Cp lagna and Ma, Ve and Rahu in 10H.> He is undergoing Mer-Ve-Mer (Vim. dasha). (Mercury exalted> with Sun in Virgo.). 10H lord Ve sits in Pisces in Navamsha.> > He left his job in Mer-Ven-sat and trying to get a job in Gulf.> > So, how do I apply the techniques here ?> > 10H L is venus.. not connected to his job (engineer).> Rahu and Mars may signify petroleum and engg.> But no connection to Sun (he was in a PSU).> 2H is moon (parivartana with sat in Cn).> 10H lord in pisces ...again does not signify engg.> 2H has Moon and 11H is empty.> > 'Looking forward to reply.> > Regards> Chakra> > > Sreenadh [sreesog]> Monday, December 24, 2007 7:33 PM> > Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the> native> > > > Dear Vinita ji,> Lol....! That won't work always.. Note that "it is one of the> methods" But still, when I say so, I should clarify some of the other> possibilities as well. > 1) Income should be predicted based on the significance of the planet> present in 10th House from Lagna, Moon, or Sun. i.e. First check whether> there is a planet in 10th from Lagna, if not check whether there is a planet> in 10th from Moon, if not check whether there is a planet in 10th from Sun.> The said planet will provide income (job) based on its significance at some> point of time for sure. (Yes, proper Dasa or Antara can be considered)> 2) The benefic planets in 11-2-Lagna will provide income from different> sources during their corresponding Dasa-Antara. Thus Job could be related to> this as well in the corresponding periods.> 3) The Navamsa lord of the 10 HL can indicate the job. (But try using it> only after seeing the possibilities indicated by the first two)> Note that in the said horoscope, the first choice was not applicable due to> the absence of planets in 10th. Even the Ra in 10th was supposed to give the> result fo Venus the 10th lord from Lagna and Moon (Lagna and Moon was in> Leo). Thus I went for the Navamsa lord of the 10th House and that was Mars -> clearly explaining why the job was as a government servant, that too in> army. > Note: Do you see some lesson from the above note? > Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , "vinita kumar"> shankar_mamta@ wrote:> >> > Shreenadh, i can only say WOW!!!> > > > tried to check this with the chart of another native who is a govt. > > servant. The lagna is Taurus, so the 10th lord is Saturn. In > > Navamsa, Saturn is in the amsa of Saggi while Jupiter in natal chart > > is conjoined with the Sun. Did i follow the steps correctly? > > > > , "Sreenadh" > > sreesog@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Remesh ji,> > > ==>> > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > > prediction.> > > <==> > > I totally agree with the above statement of yours. > > > ==>> > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > > servant ? I could not find it out till now?> > > <==> > > That is some thing cute, and because of that statement I got> > > interested in the said horoscope. I hope the following is the > > birth> > > details under discussion.> > > ==>> > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > INDIA.> > > <==> > > One of the major method to determine the job of a native > > is "Karmesasya> > > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida" (Phaladeepika) > > meaning, "the > > > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa lord > > of the> > > 10th house lord from Natal lagna"> > > In the said horoscope, Lagna is Leo, 10th house is Tarus (with > > Ra in> > > it), 10th lord is Ve. The navamsa of Ve falls in Scorpio and Ve is> > > situated in Lagna Leo itself. Thus -> > > Karmesa = Ve> > > Karmesasya navamsa rasipa = lord of Scorpio = Ma.> > > Thus Mars is should signify the job of the native in the said> > > horoscope. With the 10th lord Ve in Leo (lord of Leo Sun is the> > > significator of Government) and also with Mars as the significator > > of> > > the job it no wonder that the native "is a govt, servant and that > > to0 in> > > armed forces".> > > Hope the methodology and explanation is clear.> > > Love and regards,> > > Sreenadh> > > > > > , ramesh mishra> > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Jyothi Ji,> > > > Namaskar,> > > > I do appreciate your comments.> > > > I am not biased to any system.> > > > But ofcourse, I give priority no.1 to KAS.> > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > > prediction.> > > > I have experienced VA more complicated and confusing> > > > for timing any event.> > > > Now as for the chart, the native's married life is not> > > > ok and sometimes there is querrelling among them and> > > > the situation becomes so nasty both of them becomes> > > > ready to divorce but after few hours everything comes> > > > to normal and they live together happily for months> > > > together.> > > > Nobody knows when the happy situation will take turn.> > > > As far as I know native never faced depression.> > > > He never went abroad and no chances in future also> > > > because his financial condition is not so strong.> > > > He has been mostly visiting many places in India.> > > > He took birth in a small village but after 4 years of> > > > birth he never stayed in his birth place .> > > > As I have stated in my mail he is a govt,servant and> > > > that to in armed forces.> > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > > servant ?> > > > I could not find it out till now?> > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > >> > > > --- jyothi_b_lakshmi jyothi_b_lakshmi@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > >> > > > > When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal> > > > > importance to 6th> > > > > lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing> > > > > divorce. I do not> > > > > know why you overlooked what I said about 6th lord> > > > > aspecting 7th and> > > > > tried to negate my reasoning by emphasising on 7th> > > > > lord in 12th. May> > > > > be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt> > > > > like putting down> > > > > what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying> > > > > reasoning by KAS> > > > > alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying> > > > > to integrate the> > > > > working points from all systems and trying to apply> > > > > them for my> > > > > learning. I am trying to pick up the best and> > > > > plausible clues from> > > > > all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying> > > > > to learn from> > > > > them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much.> > > > > Whatever methods> > > > > we follow, all must lead to the same results, that> > > > > is what astrology> > > > > must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody> > > > > can create their> > > > > own branches of this divine science and destroy it.> > > > > So please do not> > > > > try to crucify me at the first instance.> > > > >> > > > > Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot> > > > > create an event. My> > > > > sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not> > > > > divorced,> > > > > (Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is> > > > > in 12th it need> > > > > not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a> > > > > friendly sign can> > > > > modify the effects, can be just separation, husband> > > > > staying away due> > > > > to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord> > > > > can modify the> > > > > effects. A lot of other factors need to be> > > > > considered. I am not a> > > > > pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings> > > > > from whatever I> > > > > have read so far. Anyways I do believe that position> > > > > of 7th lord in> > > > > 12th does negatively affect marital harmony. This> > > > > what I have> > > > > observed.> > > > >> > > > > Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and> > > > > 12th lord Moon are> > > > > in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon> > > > > being in its own> > > > > sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th.> > > > > The negative> > > > > effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord> > > > > saturn with moon in> > > > > 12th, taking into account the opposite nature of> > > > > these planets, their> > > > > life can be very cold and indifferent without any> > > > > emotions towards> > > > > each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with> > > > > legal issues, court> > > > > cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce)> > > > > effects of saturn> > > > > is less when compared with 7th house effects because> > > > > 7th (Aquarius)> > > > > is the moola trikona of saturn. What I have> > > > > understood is if a planet> > > > > owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona, the result> > > > > of moola trikona> > > > > predominates. So again the chances of staying> > > > > together gains weight> > > > > than getting legally separated.> > > > >> > > > > Viewing in another angle, without considering the> > > > > exchange efects,> > > > > let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna> > > > > lord. As per what I> > > > > know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive> > > > > results to the houses> > > > > he is associated with by means of position, aspect,> > > > > association with> > > > > lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna> > > > > lord tries to> > > > > impart positive results for 7th as it is in> > > > > conjunction with 7th> > > > > lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being together> > > > > shows the native> > > > > and his partner trying to stick together> > > > > irrespective of the> > > > > differences.> > > > > These are the reasons I can find with my minimal> > > > > knowledge. If I am> > > > > wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I> > > > > think this> > > > > person's married life is as good as separated.> > > > >> > > > > For my learning, can you please let me know the> > > > > personlity of this> > > > > person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily> > > > > depressed? Also> > > > > was he always in his native place or did he go> > > > > abroad any time? Does> > > > > he have any serious health problems?> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Jyothi> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ,> > > > > ramesh mishra> > > > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Jyothi, Ash and all,> > > > > > I give you one chart of a male native who is> > > > > closely related to> > > > > me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and 2nd> > > > > lord occupy 12th> > > > > house.> > > > > > According to the verdict of Jyothi he should> > > > > have divorced his> > > > > spouse> > > > > > because of 7th lord in 12th.> > > > > > In fact it is not so. They married 38 years> > > > > before and still> > > > > living together.No doubt there married life is hell> > > > > but staying> > > > > together.> > > > > > Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he> > > > > was not> > > > > divorced ?> > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > > INDIA.> > > > > > He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters.> > > > > > He served in defence forces in IAF and took> > > > > volunteerly> > > > > retirement after doing service in armed forces.> > > > > > Again after two years of retirement he got a job> > > > > in central> > > > > government.> > > > > > Between this period of two years, he was not> > > > > jobless.He has been> > > > > doing job in a private co.> > > > > > If she can analyse it will be good learning for> > > > > us.> > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > Ash kas@ wrote:> > > > > > Dear Jyothi,> > > > > >> > > > > > Here 2 laws of KAS are matching.> > > > > >> > > > > > 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt.> > > > > > 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and> > > > > aspecting 7th> > > > > house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa.> > > > > > 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8> > > > > points, and such> > > > > marriages will break in highest power planet so> > > > > dasha of Saturn when> > > > > it came it will break the marriage.> > > > > > 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3> > > > > zeroes in SAV.> > > > > Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house.> > > > > >> > > > > > 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn,> > > > > will stick to> > > > > her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so> > > > > difference is much> > > > > more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons,> > > > > ego are very> > > > > fragile.> > > > > >> > > > > > Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of> > > > > Ju and breaks in> > > > > Ju. As per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws> > > > > of KAS i.e.> > > > > Marriage in lowest power planet will break in> > > > > Highest power planet of> > > > > 6th or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is> > > > > very powerful,> > > > > being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E> > > > > along with Karak> > > > > i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the chart.> > > > > >> > > > > > Marriage in 6th lord's antra which is only 8> > > > > points in 7th house> > > > > and breaks in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th> > > > > house> > > > === message truncated ===> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Go to> > > http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php> > > >> > >> >> > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway. 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Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Dear All, A good discussion is going on on Profession. I would like to present a chart and ask if anyone can come up with the profession of the following native: Sex: Male DOB: Aug 26, 1963 TOB: 7:05 am POB: Bangalore I don't need any reading on this chart, hence this is not a chart reading request. I know this person for about 20 years. I know the birth details of are pretty accurate. His father was interested in astrology and hence has made a careful record of his son's birth time. I want members to just come up with the pssoible profession of this native. Regards, KrishnaAsh <kas wrote: Dear Chakraborty, 10th lord from Lagna is Venus and Venus is in navamsa of Jupiter Planets in 10th house are Venus and Venus is again in navamsa of Ju Ma is in 10th house and it is in navamsa of Mars Ra is in navamsa of Sa. 10th lord from Moon is Mars and Mars is in navamsa of Sco so ruled by Mars 10th lord from Sun is Gemini ruled by Mercury and Mercury is in navamsa of Saturn. So career giving planets are Ma, Sa, Ju, Ju. You also have Venus who is with 3 bindus in 10th house so again it shows good skills in management with more of artistic touch. Now, Bring these planets back into Rasi. Ma is in 10th house so house of authority and its in sign of Libra Sa is in 7th house and its in watery sign of Cancer Jupiter is in 5th house in the fixed sign of Taurus. So this can show Metallurgical Engineering related to Mo and Ve (so can be petroleum or some liquids) and also Management or advisory role – Ju or consulting. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Chakraborty, PLTuesday December 25, 2007 11:26 PM' 'RE: Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the native Dear Sreenadh-ji, Following are the details. DOB : October 6, 1976 TOB : 13:30 hrs (+/- 5 min) Kolkata, 88 E 22, 22N34, And he insists that 10H has Ma+Ve+Ra in his original Kundli at home. He is a Metallurgical engr, worked for 1.5 yrs in Hindustan Motors (ambassador car factory) and then IOCL (Sept 2000-07 Jul). Regards Chakraborty Sreenadh [sreesog ]Wednesday, December 26, 2007 9:33 AM Subject: Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the native Dear Chakraborty ji, First thig first - provide the date of birth with time and location. Let me see the chart and then I will reply.Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh,> > I am also going thru' your mail and learning things.> > One question, if you please.> > What happens when 10H from Lagna has 2 / 3 planets ?> > One of my Junior has Cp lagna and Ma, Ve and Rahu in 10H.> He is undergoing Mer-Ve-Mer (Vim. dasha). (Mercury exalted> with Sun in Virgo.). 10H lord Ve sits in Pisces in Navamsha.> > He left his job in Mer-Ven-sat and trying to get a job in Gulf.> > So, how do I apply the techniques here ?> > 10H L is venus.. not connected to his job (engineer).> Rahu and Mars may signify petroleum and engg.> But no connection to Sun (he was in a PSU).> 2H is moon (parivartana with sat in Cn).> 10H lord in pisces ...again does not signify engg.> 2H has Moon and 11H is empty.> > 'Looking forward to reply.> > Regards> Chakra> > > Sreenadh [sreesog]> Monday, December 24, 2007 7:33 PM> > Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the> native> > > > Dear Vinita ji,> Lol....! That won't work always.. Note that "it is one of the> methods" But still, when I say so, I should clarify some of the other> possibilities as well. > 1) Income should be predicted based on the significance of the planet> present in 10th House from Lagna, Moon, or Sun. i.e. First check whether> there is a planet in 10th from Lagna, if not check whether there is a planet> in 10th from Moon, if not check whether there is a planet in 10th from Sun.> The said planet will provide income (job) based on its significance at some> point of time for sure. (Yes, proper Dasa or Antara can be considered)> 2) The benefic planets in 11-2-Lagna will provide income from different> sources during their corresponding Dasa-Antara. Thus Job could be related to> this as well in the corresponding periods.> 3) The Navamsa lord of the 10 HL can indicate the job. (But try using it> only after seeing the possibilities indicated by the first two)> Note that in the said horoscope, the first choice was not applicable due to> the absence of planets in 10th. Even the Ra in 10th was supposed to give the> result fo Venus the 10th lord from Lagna and Moon (Lagna and Moon was in> Leo). Thus I went for the Navamsa lord of the 10th House and that was Mars -> clearly explaining why the job was as a government servant, that too in> army. > Note: Do you see some lesson from the above note? > Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , "vinita kumar"> shankar_mamta@ wrote:> >> > Shreenadh, i can only say WOW!!!> > > > tried to check this with the chart of another native who is a govt. > > servant. The lagna is Taurus, so the 10th lord is Saturn. In > > Navamsa, Saturn is in the amsa of Saggi while Jupiter in natal chart > > is conjoined with the Sun. Did i follow the steps correctly? > > > > , "Sreenadh" > > sreesog@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Remesh ji,> > > ==>> > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > > prediction.> > > <==> > > I totally agree with the above statement of yours. > > > ==>> > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > > servant ? I could not find it out till now?> > > <==> > > That is some thing cute, and because of that statement I got> > > interested in the said horoscope. I hope the following is the > > birth> > > details under discussion.> > > ==>> > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > INDIA.> > > <==> > > One of the major method to determine the job of a native > > is "Karmesasya> > > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida" (Phaladeepika) > > meaning, "the > > > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa lord > > of the> > > 10th house lord from Natal lagna"> > > In the said horoscope, Lagna is Leo, 10th house is Tarus (with > > Ra in> > > it), 10th lord is Ve. The navamsa of Ve falls in Scorpio and Ve is> > > situated in Lagna Leo itself. Thus -> > > Karmesa = Ve> > > Karmesasya navamsa rasipa = lord of Scorpio = Ma.> > > Thus Mars is should signify the job of the native in the said> > > horoscope. With the 10th lord Ve in Leo (lord of Leo Sun is the> > > significator of Government) and also with Mars as the significator > > of> > > the job it no wonder that the native "is a govt, servant and that > > to0 in> > > armed forces".> > > Hope the methodology and explanation is clear.> > > Love and regards,> > > Sreenadh> > > > > > , ramesh mishra> > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Jyothi Ji,> > > > Namaskar,> > > > I do appreciate your comments.> > > > I am not biased to any system.> > > > But ofcourse, I give priority no.1 to KAS.> > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > > prediction.> > > > I have experienced VA more complicated and confusing> > > > for timing any event.> > > > Now as for the chart, the native's married life is not> > > > ok and sometimes there is querrelling among them and> > > > the situation becomes so nasty both of them becomes> > > > ready to divorce but after few hours everything comes> > > > to normal and they live together happily for months> > > > together.> > > > Nobody knows when the happy situation will take turn.> > > > As far as I know native never faced depression.> > > > He never went abroad and no chances in future also> > > > because his financial condition is not so strong.> > > > He has been mostly visiting many places in India.> > > > He took birth in a small village but after 4 years of> > > > birth he never stayed in his birth place .> > > > As I have stated in my mail he is a govt,servant and> > > > that to in armed forces.> > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > > servant ?> > > > I could not find it out till now?> > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > >> > > > --- jyothi_b_lakshmi jyothi_b_lakshmi@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > >> > > > > When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal> > > > > importance to 6th> > > > > lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing> > > > > divorce. I do not> > > > > know why you overlooked what I said about 6th lord> > > > > aspecting 7th and> > > > > tried to negate my reasoning by emphasising on 7th> > > > > lord in 12th. May> > > > > be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt> > > > > like putting down> > > > > what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying> > > > > reasoning by KAS> > > > > alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying> > > > > to integrate the> > > > > working points from all systems and trying to apply> > > > > them for my> > > > > learning. I am trying to pick up the best and> > > > > plausible clues from> > > > > all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying> > > > > to learn from> > > > > them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much.> > > > > Whatever methods> > > > > we follow, all must lead to the same results, that> > > > > is what astrology> > > > > must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody> > > > > can create their> > > > > own branches of this divine science and destroy it.> > > > > So please do not> > > > > try to crucify me at the first instance.> > > > >> > > > > Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot> > > > > create an event. My> > > > > sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not> > > > > divorced,> > > > > (Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is> > > > > in 12th it need> > > > > not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a> > > > > friendly sign can> > > > > modify the effects, can be just separation, husband> > > > > staying away due> > > > > to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord> > > > > can modify the> > > > > effects. A lot of other factors need to be> > > > > considered. I am not a> > > > > pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings> > > > > from whatever I> > > > > have read so far. Anyways I do believe that position> > > > > of 7th lord in> > > > > 12th does negatively affect marital harmony. This> > > > > what I have> > > > > observed.> > > > >> > > > > Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and> > > > > 12th lord Moon are> > > > > in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon> > > > > being in its own> > > > > sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th.> > > > > The negative> > > > > effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord> > > > > saturn with moon in> > > > > 12th, taking into account the opposite nature of> > > > > these planets, their> > > > > life can be very cold and indifferent without any> > > > > emotions towards> > > > > each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with> > > > > legal issues, court> > > > > cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce)> > > > > effects of saturn> > > > > is less when compared with 7th house effects because> > > > > 7th (Aquarius)> > > > > is the moola trikona of saturn. What I have> > > > > understood is if a planet> > > > > owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona, the result> > > > > of moola trikona> > > > > predominates. So again the chances of staying> > > > > together gains weight> > > > > than getting legally separated.> > > > >> > > > > Viewing in another angle, without considering the> > > > > exchange efects,> > > > > let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna> > > > > lord. As per what I> > > > > know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive> > > > > results to the houses> > > > > he is associated with by means of position, aspect,> > > > > association with> > > > > lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna> > > > > lord tries to> > > > > impart positive results for 7th as it is in> > > > > conjunction with 7th> > > > > lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being together> > > > > shows the native> > > > > and his partner trying to stick together> > > > > irrespective of the> > > > > differences.> > > > > These are the reasons I can find with my minimal> > > > > knowledge. If I am> > > > > wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I> > > > > think this> > > > > person's married life is as good as separated.> > > > >> > > > > For my learning, can you please let me know the> > > > > personlity of this> > > > > person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily> > > > > depressed? Also> > > > > was he always in his native place or did he go> > > > > abroad any time? Does> > > > > he have any serious health problems?> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Jyothi> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ,> > > > > ramesh mishra> > > > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Jyothi, Ash and all,> > > > > > I give you one chart of a male native who is> > > > > closely related to> > > > > me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and 2nd> > > > > lord occupy 12th> > > > > house.> > > > > > According to the verdict of Jyothi he should> > > > > have divorced his> > > > > spouse> > > > > > because of 7th lord in 12th.> > > > > > In fact it is not so. They married 38 years> > > > > before and still> > > > > living together.No doubt there married life is hell> > > > > but staying> > > > > together.> > > > > > Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he> > > > > was not> > > > > divorced ?> > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > > INDIA.> > > > > > He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters.> > > > > > He served in defence forces in IAF and took> > > > > volunteerly> > > > > retirement after doing service in armed forces.> > > > > > Again after two years of retirement he got a job> > > > > in central> > > > > government.> > > > > > Between this period of two years, he was not> > > > > jobless.He has been> > > > > doing job in a private co.> > > > > > If she can analyse it will be good learning for> > > > > us.> > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > Ash kas@ wrote:> > > > > > Dear Jyothi,> > > > > >> > > > > > Here 2 laws of KAS are matching.> > > > > >> > > > > > 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt.> > > > > > 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and> > > > > aspecting 7th> > > > > house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa.> > > > > > 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8> > > > > points, and such> > > > > marriages will break in highest power planet so> > > > > dasha of Saturn when> > > > > it came it will break the marriage.> > > > > > 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3> > > > > zeroes in SAV.> > > > > Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house.> > > > > >> > > > > > 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn,> > > > > will stick to> > > > > her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so> > > > > difference is much> > > > > more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons,> > > > > ego are very> > > > > fragile.> > > > > >> > > > > > Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of> > > > > Ju and breaks in> > > > > Ju. As per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws> > > > > of KAS i.e.> > > > > Marriage in lowest power planet will break in> > > > > Highest power planet of> > > > > 6th or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is> > > > > very powerful,> > > > > being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E> > > > > along with Karak> > > > > i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the chart.> > > > > >> > > > > > Marriage in 6th lord's antra which is only 8> > > > > points in 7th house> > > > > and breaks in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th> > > > > house> > > > === message truncated ===> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Go to> > > http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php> > > >> > >> >> > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway. 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Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Dear Krishna, This native might be doing job either in IT field or a lawyer . The planets responsible for his job are Me and Ju. Thanks Ramesh MishraKrishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: Dear All, A good discussion is going on on Profession. I would like to present a chart and ask if anyone can come up with the profession of the following native: Sex: Male DOB: Aug 26, 1963 TOB: 7:05 am POB: Bangalore I don't need any reading on this chart, hence this is not a chart reading request. I know this person for about 20 years. I know the birth details of are pretty accurate. His father was interested in astrology and hence has made a careful record of his son's birth time. I want members to just come up with the pssoible profession of this native. Regards, KrishnaAsh <kas wrote: Dear Chakraborty, 10th lord from Lagna is Venus and Venus is in navamsa of Jupiter Planets in 10th house are Venus and Venus is again in navamsa of Ju Ma is in 10th house and it is in navamsa of Mars Ra is in navamsa of Sa. 10th lord from Moon is Mars and Mars is in navamsa of Sco so ruled by Mars 10th lord from Sun is Gemini ruled by Mercury and Mercury is in navamsa of Saturn. So career giving planets are Ma, Sa, Ju, Ju. You also have Venus who is with 3 bindus in 10th house so again it shows good skills in management with more of artistic touch. Now, Bring these planets back into Rasi. Ma is in 10th house so house of authority and its in sign of Libra Sa is in 7th house and its in watery sign of Cancer Jupiter is in 5th house in the fixed sign of Taurus. So this can show Metallurgical Engineering related to Mo and Ve (so can be petroleum or some liquids) and also Management or advisory role – Ju or consulting. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Chakraborty, PLTuesday December 25, 2007 11:26 PM' 'RE: Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the native Dear Sreenadh-ji, Following are the details. DOB : October 6, 1976 TOB : 13:30 hrs (+/- 5 min) Kolkata, 88 E 22, 22N34, And he insists that 10H has Ma+Ve+Ra in his original Kundli at home. He is a Metallurgical engr, worked for 1.5 yrs in Hindustan Motors (ambassador car factory) and then IOCL (Sept 2000-07 Jul). Regards Chakraborty Sreenadh [sreesog ]Wednesday, December 26, 2007 9:33 AM Subject: Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the native Dear Chakraborty ji, First thig first - provide the date of birth with time and location. Let me see the chart and then I will reply.Love and regards,Sreenadh--- In , "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh,> > I am also going thru' your mail and learning things.> > One question, if you please.> > What happens when 10H from Lagna has 2 / 3 planets ?> > One of my Junior has Cp lagna and Ma, Ve and Rahu in 10H.> He is undergoing Mer-Ve-Mer (Vim. dasha). (Mercury exalted> with Sun in Virgo.). 10H lord Ve sits in Pisces in Navamsha.> > He left his job in Mer-Ven-sat and trying to get a job in Gulf.> > So, how do I apply the techniques here ?> > 10H L is venus.. not connected to his job (engineer).> Rahu and Mars may signify petroleum and engg.> But no connection to Sun (he was in a PSU).> 2H is moon (parivartana with sat in Cn).> 10H lord in pisces ...again does not signify engg.> 2H has Moon and 11H is empty.> > 'Looking forward to reply.> > Regards> Chakra> > > Sreenadh [sreesog]> Monday, December 24, 2007 7:33 PM> > Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the> native> > > > Dear Vinita ji,> Lol....! That won't work always.. Note that "it is one of the> methods" But still, when I say so, I should clarify some of the other> possibilities as well. > 1) Income should be predicted based on the significance of the planet> present in 10th House from Lagna, Moon, or Sun. i.e. First check whether> there is a planet in 10th from Lagna, if not check whether there is a planet> in 10th from Moon, if not check whether there is a planet in 10th from Sun.> The said planet will provide income (job) based on its significance at some> point of time for sure. (Yes, proper Dasa or Antara can be considered)> 2) The benefic planets in 11-2-Lagna will provide income from different> sources during their corresponding Dasa-Antara. Thus Job could be related to> this as well in the corresponding periods.> 3) The Navamsa lord of the 10 HL can indicate the job. (But try using it> only after seeing the possibilities indicated by the first two)> Note that in the said horoscope, the first choice was not applicable due to> the absence of planets in 10th. Even the Ra in 10th was supposed to give the> result fo Venus the 10th lord from Lagna and Moon (Lagna and Moon was in> Leo). Thus I went for the Navamsa lord of the 10th House and that was Mars -> clearly explaining why the job was as a government servant, that too in> army. > Note: Do you see some lesson from the above note? > Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , "vinita kumar"> shankar_mamta@ wrote:> >> > Shreenadh, i can only say WOW!!!> > > > tried to check this with the chart of another native who is a govt. > > servant. The lagna is Taurus, so the 10th lord is Saturn. In > > Navamsa, Saturn is in the amsa of Saggi while Jupiter in natal chart > > is conjoined with the Sun. Did i follow the steps correctly? > > > > , "Sreenadh" > > sreesog@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Remesh ji,> > > ==>> > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > > prediction.> > > <==> > > I totally agree with the above statement of yours. > > > ==>> > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > > servant ? I could not find it out till now?> > > <==> > > That is some thing cute, and because of that statement I got> > > interested in the said horoscope. I hope the following is the > > birth> > > details under discussion.> > > ==>> > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > INDIA.> > > <==> > > One of the major method to determine the job of a native > > is "Karmesasya> > > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida" (Phaladeepika) > > meaning, "the > > > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa lord > > of the> > > 10th house lord from Natal lagna"> > > In the said horoscope, Lagna is Leo, 10th house is Tarus (with > > Ra in> > > it), 10th lord is Ve. The navamsa of Ve falls in Scorpio and Ve is> > > situated in Lagna Leo itself. Thus -> > > Karmesa = Ve> > > Karmesasya navamsa rasipa = lord of Scorpio = Ma.> > > Thus Mars is should signify the job of the native in the said> > > horoscope. With the 10th lord Ve in Leo (lord of Leo Sun is the> > > significator of Government) and also with Mars as the significator > > of> > > the job it no wonder that the native "is a govt, servant and that > > to0 in> > > armed forces".> > > Hope the methodology and explanation is clear.> > > Love and regards,> > > Sreenadh> > > > > > , ramesh mishra> > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Jyothi Ji,> > > > Namaskar,> > > > I do appreciate your comments.> > > > I am not biased to any system.> > > > But ofcourse, I give priority no.1 to KAS.> > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > > prediction.> > > > I have experienced VA more complicated and confusing> > > > for timing any event.> > > > Now as for the chart, the native's married life is not> > > > ok and sometimes there is querrelling among them and> > > > the situation becomes so nasty both of them becomes> > > > ready to divorce but after few hours everything comes> > > > to normal and they live together happily for months> > > > together.> > > > Nobody knows when the happy situation will take turn.> > > > As far as I know native never faced depression.> > > > He never went abroad and no chances in future also> > > > because his financial condition is not so strong.> > > > He has been mostly visiting many places in India.> > > > He took birth in a small village but after 4 years of> > > > birth he never stayed in his birth place .> > > > As I have stated in my mail he is a govt,servant and> > > > that to in armed forces.> > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > > servant ?> > > > I could not find it out till now?> > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > >> > > > --- jyothi_b_lakshmi jyothi_b_lakshmi@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > >> > > > > When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal> > > > > importance to 6th> > > > > lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing> > > > > divorce. I do not> > > > > know why you overlooked what I said about 6th lord> > > > > aspecting 7th and> > > > > tried to negate my reasoning by emphasising on 7th> > > > > lord in 12th. May> > > > > be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt> > > > > like putting down> > > > > what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying> > > > > reasoning by KAS> > > > > alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying> > > > > to integrate the> > > > > working points from all systems and trying to apply> > > > > them for my> > > > > learning. I am trying to pick up the best and> > > > > plausible clues from> > > > > all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying> > > > > to learn from> > > > > them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much.> > > > > Whatever methods> > > > > we follow, all must lead to the same results, that> > > > > is what astrology> > > > > must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody> > > > > can create their> > > > > own branches of this divine science and destroy it.> > > > > So please do not> > > > > try to crucify me at the first instance.> > > > >> > > > > Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot> > > > > create an event. My> > > > > sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not> > > > > divorced,> > > > > (Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is> > > > > in 12th it need> > > > > not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a> > > > > friendly sign can> > > > > modify the effects, can be just separation, husband> > > > > staying away due> > > > > to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord> > > > > can modify the> > > > > effects. A lot of other factors need to be> > > > > considered. I am not a> > > > > pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings> > > > > from whatever I> > > > > have read so far. Anyways I do believe that position> > > > > of 7th lord in> > > > > 12th does negatively affect marital harmony. This> > > > > what I have> > > > > observed.> > > > >> > > > > Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and> > > > > 12th lord Moon are> > > > > in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon> > > > > being in its own> > > > > sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th.> > > > > The negative> > > > > effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord> > > > > saturn with moon in> > > > > 12th, taking into account the opposite nature of> > > > > these planets, their> > > > > life can be very cold and indifferent without any> > > > > emotions towards> > > > > each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with> > > > > legal issues, court> > > > > cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce)> > > > > effects of saturn> > > > > is less when compared with 7th house effects because> > > > > 7th (Aquarius)> > > > > is the moola trikona of saturn. What I have> > > > > understood is if a planet> > > > > owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona, the result> > > > > of moola trikona> > > > > predominates. So again the chances of staying> > > > > together gains weight> > > > > than getting legally separated.> > > > >> > > > > Viewing in another angle, without considering the> > > > > exchange efects,> > > > > let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna> > > > > lord. As per what I> > > > > know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive> > > > > results to the houses> > > > > he is associated with by means of position, aspect,> > > > > association with> > > > > lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna> > > > > lord tries to> > > > > impart positive results for 7th as it is in> > > > > conjunction with 7th> > > > > lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being together> > > > > shows the native> > > > > and his partner trying to stick together> > > > > irrespective of the> > > > > differences.> > > > > These are the reasons I can find with my minimal> > > > > knowledge. If I am> > > > > wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I> > > > > think this> > > > > person's married life is as good as separated.> > > > >> > > > > For my learning, can you please let me know the> > > > > personlity of this> > > > > person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily> > > > > depressed? Also> > > > > was he always in his native place or did he go> > > > > abroad any time? Does> > > > > he have any serious health problems?> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Jyothi> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ,> > > > > ramesh mishra> > > > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Jyothi, Ash and all,> > > > > > I give you one chart of a male native who is> > > > > closely related to> > > > > me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and 2nd> > > > > lord occupy 12th> > > > > house.> > > > > > According to the verdict of Jyothi he should> > > > > have divorced his> > > > > spouse> > > > > > because of 7th lord in 12th.> > > > > > In fact it is not so. They married 38 years> > > > > before and still> > > > > living together.No doubt there married life is hell> > > > > but staying> > > > > together.> > > > > > Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he> > > > > was not> > > > > divorced ?> > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > > INDIA.> > > > > > He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters.> > > > > > He served in defence forces in IAF and took> > > > > volunteerly> > > > > retirement after doing service in armed forces.> > > > > > Again after two years of retirement he got a job> > > > > in central> > > > > government.> > > > > > Between this period of two years, he was not> > > > > jobless.He has been> > > > > doing job in a private co.> > > > > > If she can analyse it will be good learning for> > > > > us.> > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > Ash kas@ wrote:> > > > > > Dear Jyothi,> > > > > >> > > > > > Here 2 laws of KAS are matching.> > > > > >> > > > > > 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt.> > > > > > 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and> > > > > aspecting 7th> > > > > house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa.> > > > > > 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8> > > > > points, and such> > > > > marriages will break in highest power planet so> > > > > dasha of Saturn when> > > > > it came it will break the marriage.> > > > > > 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3> > > > > zeroes in SAV.> > > > > Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house.> > > > > >> > > > > > 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn,> > > > > will stick to> > > > > her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so> > > > > difference is much> > > > > more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons,> > > > > ego are very> > > > > fragile.> > > > > >> > > > > > Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of> > > > > Ju and breaks in> > > > > Ju. As per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws> > > > > of KAS i.e.> > > > > Marriage in lowest power planet will break in> > > > > Highest power planet of> > > > > 6th or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is> > > > > very powerful,> > > > > being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E> > > > > along with Karak> > > > > i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the chart.> > > > > >> > > > > > Marriage in 6th lord's antra which is only 8> > > > > points in 7th house> > > > > and breaks in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th> > > > > house> > > > === message truncated ===> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Go to> > > http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php> > > >> > >> >> > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway. 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Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Dear Krishna ji, That is a good question. Ya, the theories should proove right or wrong in some blind readings, and of course I am always insterested in such things - what ever the outcome be; because I am learning . OK. Let us look at the said horoscope. House : Sign : Navamsa---------------Lagna (Leo) : As-Su-Ve : (Sa)-Ma2nd House : Me-Ma : -3rd House :Mo : As4th House :Gk : Ke5th House :Ke : -6th House :(Sa) : -7th House :- : (Ju)-Me8th House :(Ju) : Gk9th House :- : -10th House :- : Ra-Mo11th House :Ra : Ve-Su12th House :- : - * Note that there is no planets in 10th from Lagna, Moon or Sun. * 'Karnesasya Navamsa rasipa' is Mercury (lord of gemini) * We note that Me dasa was running from Jan-1993 to Oct-2010, and also that Me is placed in 2nd house - a house that should provide income. We also note that Mercury is exalted in 2nd house (and also the lord of 11th). Thus it is confirmed that Mercury provides the job - yes, Mercury dasa. * Considering the planets in 11-Lagna-2 house, we find that Venus, Sun (and Mercury) also comes in to consideration, as planets that can provide income in respective dasa-antaras. So what would be the period of job possibility? It could be during Jun-1996 to April 1999 (Mercury dasa -Venus Antara) or during April-1999 to Feb-2000 (Mercury dasa-Sun Antara). That means at the age of 33 -37. Personally I would prefer to go for the option at the age of 36-37, but the same may not be correct. Thus it is a case of getting a proper job, late in life. What kind of job? A job that could be indicated by Mercury or Sun, thus it could be as teacher, as journalist, as advisor, politician, orator, computer relatd or anything of the sort. If I could have predicted the job accurately beyond this point (with the numerous verity of jobs available now a days), I would have made much money with that ;=) Note: I am happy if the reading turns out to be correct or not - because it is good to learn from actual experience. :)Love and regards,Sreenadh , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:>> Dear All,> > A good discussion is going on on Profession. I would like to present a chart and ask if anyone can come up with the profession of the following native:> > Sex: Male> DOB: Aug 26, 1963> TOB: 7:05 am> POB: Bangalore> > I don't need any reading on this chart, hence this is not a chart reading request. I know this person for about 20 years. I know the birth details of are pretty accurate. His father was interested in astrology and hence has made a careful record of his son's birth time. I want members to just come up with the pssoible profession of this native.> > Regards,> Krishna> > Ash kas wrote:> Dear Chakraborty,> > 10th lord from Lagna is Venus and Venus is in navamsa of Jupiter> Planets in 10th house are Venus and Venus is again in navamsa of Ju > Ma is in 10th house and it is in navamsa of Mars> Ra is in navamsa of Sa.> > > 10th lord from Moon is Mars and Mars is in navamsa of Sco so ruled by Mars> > 10th lord from Sun is Gemini ruled by Mercury and Mercury is in navamsa of Saturn.> > So career giving planets are Ma, Sa, Ju, Ju.> > You also have Venus who is with 3 bindus in 10th house so again it shows good skills in management with more of artistic touch.> > Now, Bring these planets back into Rasi.> > Ma is in 10th house so house of authority and its in sign of Libra> Sa is in 7th house and its in watery sign of Cancer> Jupiter is in 5th house in the fixed sign of Taurus.> > So this can show Metallurgical Engineering related to Mo and Ve (so can be petroleum or some liquids) and also Management or advisory role ? Ju or consulting. > > Cheers !!!> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > On Behalf Of Chakraborty, PL> Tuesday December 25, 2007 11:26 PM> ' '> RE: Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the native> > > Dear Sreenadh-ji,> > Following are the details.> > > > DOB : October 6, 1976> > TOB : 13:30 hrs (+/- 5 min)> > Kolkata, 88 E 22, 22N34,> > And he insists that 10H has Ma+Ve+Ra in> > his original Kundli at home.> > > > He is a Metallurgical engr, worked for 1.5 yrs in > > Hindustan Motors (ambassador car factory) > > and then IOCL (Sept 2000-07 Jul).> > > > Regards> > > > Chakraborty> > > Sreenadh [sreesog]> Wednesday, December 26, 2007 9:33 AM> > Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the native> Dear Chakraborty ji,> First thig first - provide the date of birth with time and location. Let me see the chart and then I will reply.> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> , "Chakraborty, PL" CHAKRABORTYP2@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sreenadh,> > > > I am also going thru' your mail and learning things.> > > > One question, if you please.> > > > What happens when 10H from Lagna has 2 / 3 planets ?> > > > One of my Junior has Cp lagna and Ma, Ve and Rahu in 10H.> > He is undergoing Mer-Ve-Mer (Vim. dasha). (Mercury exalted> > with Sun in Virgo.). 10H lord Ve sits in Pisces in Navamsha.> > > > He left his job in Mer-Ven-sat and trying to get a job in Gulf.> > > > So, how do I apply the techniques here ?> > > > 10H L is venus.. not connected to his job (engineer).> > Rahu and Mars may signify petroleum and engg.> > But no connection to Sun (he was in a PSU).> > 2H is moon (parivartana with sat in Cn).> > 10H lord in pisces ...again does not signify engg.> > 2H has Moon and 11H is empty.> > > > 'Looking forward to reply.> > > > Regards> > Chakra> > > > > > Sreenadh [sreesog@]> > Monday, December 24, 2007 7:33 PM> > > > Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the> > native> > > > > > > > Dear Vinita ji,> > Lol....! That won't work always.. Note that "it is one of the> > methods" But still, when I say so, I should clarify some of the other> > possibilities as well. > > 1) Income should be predicted based on the significance of the planet> > present in 10th House from Lagna, Moon, or Sun. i.e. First check whether> > there is a planet in 10th from Lagna, if not check whether there is a planet> > in 10th from Moon, if not check whether there is a planet in 10th from Sun.> > The said planet will provide income (job) based on its significance at some> > point of time for sure. (Yes, proper Dasa or Antara can be considered)> > 2) The benefic planets in 11-2-Lagna will provide income from different> > sources during their corresponding Dasa-Antara. Thus Job could be related to> > this as well in the corresponding periods.> > 3) The Navamsa lord of the 10 HL can indicate the job. (But try using it> > only after seeing the possibilities indicated by the first two)> > Note that in the said horoscope, the first choice was not applicable due to> > the absence of planets in 10th. Even the Ra in 10th was supposed to give the> > result fo Venus the 10th lord from Lagna and Moon (Lagna and Moon was in> > Leo). Thus I went for the Navamsa lord of the 10th House and that was Mars -> > clearly explaining why the job was as a government servant, that too in> > army. > > Note: Do you see some lesson from the above note? > > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > , "vinita kumar"> > shankar_mamta@ wrote:> > >> > > Shreenadh, i can only say WOW!!!> > > > > > tried to check this with the chart of another native who is a govt. > > > servant. The lagna is Taurus, so the 10th lord is Saturn. In > > > Navamsa, Saturn is in the amsa of Saggi while Jupiter in natal chart > > > is conjoined with the Sun. Did i follow the steps correctly? > > > > > > , "Sreenadh" > > > sreesog@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Remesh ji,> > > > ==>> > > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > > > prediction.> > > > <==> > > > I totally agree with the above statement of yours. > > > > ==>> > > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > > > servant ? I could not find it out till now?> > > > <==> > > > That is some thing cute, and because of that statement I got> > > > interested in the said horoscope. I hope the following is the > > > birth> > > > details under discussion.> > > > ==>> > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > > INDIA.> > > > <==> > > > One of the major method to determine the job of a native > > > is "Karmesasya> > > > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida" (Phaladeepika) > > > meaning, "the > > > > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa lord > > > of the> > > > 10th house lord from Natal lagna"> > > > In the said horoscope, Lagna is Leo, 10th house is Tarus (with > > > Ra in> > > > it), 10th lord is Ve. The navamsa of Ve falls in Scorpio and Ve is> > > > situated in Lagna Leo itself. Thus -> > > > Karmesa = Ve> > > > Karmesasya navamsa rasipa = lord of Scorpio = Ma.> > > > Thus Mars is should signify the job of the native in the said> > > > horoscope. With the 10th lord Ve in Leo (lord of Leo Sun is the> > > > significator of Government) and also with Mars as the significator > > > of> > > > the job it no wonder that the native "is a govt, servant and that > > > to0 in> > > > armed forces".> > > > Hope the methodology and explanation is clear.> > > > Love and regards,> > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > , ramesh mishra> > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Jyothi Ji,> > > > > Namaskar,> > > > > I do appreciate your comments.> > > > > I am not biased to any system.> > > > > But ofcourse, I give priority no.1 to KAS.> > > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > > > prediction.> > > > > I have experienced VA more complicated and confusing> > > > > for timing any event.> > > > > Now as for the chart, the native's married life is not> > > > > ok and sometimes there is querrelling among them and> > > > > the situation becomes so nasty both of them becomes> > > > > ready to divorce but after few hours everything comes> > > > > to normal and they live together happily for months> > > > > together.> > > > > Nobody knows when the happy situation will take turn.> > > > > As far as I know native never faced depression.> > > > > He never went abroad and no chances in future also> > > > > because his financial condition is not so strong.> > > > > He has been mostly visiting many places in India.> > > > > He took birth in a small village but after 4 years of> > > > > birth he never stayed in his birth place .> > > > > As I have stated in my mail he is a govt,servant and> > > > > that to in armed forces.> > > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > > > servant ?> > > > > I could not find it out till now?> > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > >> > > > > --- jyothi_b_lakshmi jyothi_b_lakshmi@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > > >> > > > > > When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal> > > > > > importance to 6th> > > > > > lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing> > > > > > divorce. I do not> > > > > > know why you overlooked what I said about 6th lord> > > > > > aspecting 7th and> > > > > > tried to negate my reasoning by emphasising on 7th> > > > > > lord in 12th. May> > > > > > be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt> > > > > > like putting down> > > > > > what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying> > > > > > reasoning by KAS> > > > > > alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying> > > > > > to integrate the> > > > > > working points from all systems and trying to apply> > > > > > them for my> > > > > > learning. I am trying to pick up the best and> > > > > > plausible clues from> > > > > > all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying> > > > > > to learn from> > > > > > them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much.> > > > > > Whatever methods> > > > > > we follow, all must lead to the same results, that> > > > > > is what astrology> > > > > > must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody> > > > > > can create their> > > > > > own branches of this divine science and destroy it.> > > > > > So please do not> > > > > > try to crucify me at the first instance.> > > > > >> > > > > > Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot> > > > > > create an event. My> > > > > > sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not> > > > > > divorced,> > > > > > (Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is> > > > > > in 12th it need> > > > > > not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a> > > > > > friendly sign can> > > > > > modify the effects, can be just separation, husband> > > > > > staying away due> > > > > > to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord> > > > > > can modify the> > > > > > effects. A lot of other factors need to be> > > > > > considered. I am not a> > > > > > pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings> > > > > > from whatever I> > > > > > have read so far. Anyways I do believe that position> > > > > > of 7th lord in> > > > > > 12th does negatively affect marital harmony. This> > > > > > what I have> > > > > > observed.> > > > > >> > > > > > Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and> > > > > > 12th lord Moon are> > > > > > in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon> > > > > > being in its own> > > > > > sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th.> > > > > > The negative> > > > > > effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord> > > > > > saturn with moon in> > > > > > 12th, taking into account the opposite nature of> > > > > > these planets, their> > > > > > life can be very cold and indifferent without any> > > > > > emotions towards> > > > > > each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with> > > > > > legal issues, court> > > > > > cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce)> > > > > > effects of saturn> > > > > > is less when compared with 7th house effects because> > > > > > 7th (Aquarius)> > > > > > is the moola trikona of saturn. What I have> > > > > > understood is if a planet> > > > > > owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona, the result> > > > > > of moola trikona> > > > > > predominates. So again the chances of staying> > > > > > together gains weight> > > > > > than getting legally separated.> > > > > >> > > > > > Viewing in another angle, without considering the> > > > > > exchange efects,> > > > > > let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna> > > > > > lord. As per what I> > > > > > know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive> > > > > > results to the houses> > > > > > he is associated with by means of position, aspect,> > > > > > association with> > > > > > lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna> > > > > > lord tries to> > > > > > impart positive results for 7th as it is in> > > > > > conjunction with 7th> > > > > > lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being together> > > > > > shows the native> > > > > > and his partner trying to stick together> > > > > > irrespective of the> > > > > > differences.> > > > > > These are the reasons I can find with my minimal> > > > > > knowledge. If I am> > > > > > wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I> > > > > > think this> > > > > > person's married life is as good as separated.> > > > > >> > > > > > For my learning, can you please let me know the> > > > > > personlity of this> > > > > > person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily> > > > > > depressed? Also> > > > > > was he always in his native place or did he go> > > > > > abroad any time? Does> > > > > > he have any serious health problems?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Jyothi> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ,> > > > > > ramesh mishra> > > > > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Jyothi, Ash and all,> > > > > > > I give you one chart of a male native who is> > > > > > closely related to> > > > > > me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and 2nd> > > > > > lord occupy 12th> > > > > > house.> > > > > > > According to the verdict of Jyothi he should> > > > > > have divorced his> > > > > > spouse> > > > > > > because of 7th lord in 12th.> > > > > > > In fact it is not so. They married 38 years> > > > > > before and still> > > > > > living together.No doubt there married life is hell> > > > > > but staying> > > > > > together.> > > > > > > Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he> > > > > > was not> > > > > > divorced ?> > > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > > > INDIA.> > > > > > > He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters.> > > > > > > He served in defence forces in IAF and took> > > > > > volunteerly> > > > > > retirement after doing service in armed forces.> > > > > > > Again after two years of retirement he got a job> > > > > > in central> > > > > > government.> > > > > > > Between this period of two years, he was not> > > > > > jobless.He has been> > > > > > doing job in a private co.> > > > > > > If she can analyse it will be good learning for> > > > > > us.> > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > Ash kas@ wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Jyothi,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Here 2 laws of KAS are matching.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt.> > > > > > > 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and> > > > > > aspecting 7th> > > > > > house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa.> > > > > > > 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8> > > > > > points, and such> > > > > > marriages will break in highest power planet so> > > > > > dasha of Saturn when> > > > > > it came it will break the marriage.> > > > > > > 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3> > > > > > zeroes in SAV.> > > > > > Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn,> > > > > > will stick to> > > > > > her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so> > > > > > difference is much> > > > > > more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons,> > > > > > ego are very> > > > > > fragile.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of> > > > > > Ju and breaks in> > > > > > Ju. As per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws> > > > > > of KAS i.e.> > > > > > Marriage in lowest power planet will break in> > > > > > Highest power planet of> > > > > > 6th or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is> > > > > > very powerful,> > > > > > being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E> > > > > > along with Karak> > > > > > i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the chart.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Marriage in 6th lord's antra which is only 8> > > > > > points in 7th house> > > > > > and breaks in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th> > > > > > house> > > > > === message truncated ===> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Go to> > > > http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway. 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Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Dear Krishna, Planet Degrees Nakshatra Ld Nav As 23 Le 7 P.Phalguni Ve Li Su 10 Le 8 Makha Ke Cn Mo 29 Cn 56 Aslesha Me Pi Ma 11 Li 4 Swati Ra Cp Me 25 Cn 9 Aslesha Me Aq Ju 4 Ge 20 Mrigashira Ma Sc Ve 15 Vi 18 Hasta Mo Ta SaR 22 Aq 13 P.Bhadrapada Ju Ar Ra 16 Ta 57 Rohini Mo Ge Ke 16 Sc 57 Jyestha Me Sg This persons career should be linked to Ve, Me, Sa and linked to 2nd, 7th and 12th and the signs of Virgo, Cancer and Aquarius. Ve can give some luxury, artistic etc, Mercury can give some computation ability, Saturn can give public relation, of masses of people. This person has 4 sectors of Ju in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa and such persons can be quite diplomatic, believer in karma kand, dharmic, in search or having a Guru. I shall be interested in knowing his line of work where he has excelled in his life time. In addition also, his period in Mo MD Saturn 2002-Dec-23 2004-Jul-23 The above period he might have faced more problems or dissatisfaction at work or might have changed jobs. This person has average intelligence, but he might show that he is quite knowledgeable. He can twist words very nicely to be in his favor. This native will dress well for the occasion. Have a flair for the nice things and luxuries. Yes, this person will also not show opposition directly and will listen but do what he likes. If he is in a job he will be in some position of authority of will like his space to do things the way he wants to do, so mostly in business or if in job then he might be happy at a higher post where he can do things his way or else he might be dissatisfied quickly. Antra’s of Sa, Ma and Su he will face more expenditure or changes in job and some difficulty in saving money. This is as per Krushna’s ayanamsa. Venus 2006-Jul-24 2008-Mar-24 Sun 2008-Mar-24 2008-Sep-22 Currently in his current Venus antra, he might be enjoying good authority and but much more effort as compared to returns. He will also be able to impress people in Ve antra. This period should be quite satisfactory w.r.t his career, however he will face opposition from his bosses or subordinates and unnecessary worries. He will overcome his opposition though and right now transit power of Sa and Ju are 7. After December 5th, 2008 the power will become 10 and that time, the environment will become more conducive to him. He must also be careful as he might face some court case. Next antra of Sun he will face more expenses, and he might purchase some property / car or some thing of that sort. Krishna, can you please let me know if I have assessed his nature somewhat correctly and also if u can either personally or on list update me on his future it will be good learning. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Krishnamurthy Seetharama Wednesday December 26, 2007 7:01 AM Re: RE:Reason Job of the native Dear All, A good discussion is going on on Profession. I would like to present a chart and ask if anyone can come up with the profession of the following native: Sex: Male DOB: Aug 26, 1963 TOB: 7:05 am POB: Bangalore I don't need any reading on this chart, hence this is not a chart reading request. I know this person for about 20 years. I know the birth details of are pretty accurate. His father was interested in astrology and hence has made a careful record of his son's birth time. I want members to just come up with the pssoible profession of this native. Regards, Krishna Ash <kas wrote: Dear Chakraborty, 10th lord from Lagna is Venus and Venus is in navamsa of Jupiter Planets in 10th house are Venus and Venus is again in navamsa of Ju Ma is in 10th house and it is in navamsa of Mars Ra is in navamsa of Sa. 10th lord from Moon is Mars and Mars is in navamsa of Sco so ruled by Mars 10th lord from Sun is Gemini ruled by Mercury and Mercury is in navamsa of Saturn. So career giving planets are Ma, Sa, Ju, Ju. You also have Venus who is with 3 bindus in 10th house so again it shows good skills in management with more of artistic touch. Now, Bring these planets back into Rasi. Ma is in 10th house so house of authority and its in sign of Libra Sa is in 7th house and its in watery sign of Cancer Jupiter is in 5th house in the fixed sign of Taurus. So this can show Metallurgical Engineering related to Mo and Ve (so can be petroleum or some liquids) and also Management or advisory role – Ju or consulting. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Chakraborty, PL Tuesday December 25, 2007 11:26 PM ' ' RE: Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the native Dear Sreenadh-ji, Following are the details. DOB : October 6, 1976 TOB : 13:30 hrs (+/- 5 min) Kolkata, 88 E 22, 22N34, And he insists that 10H has Ma+Ve+Ra in his original Kundli at home. He is a Metallurgical engr, worked for 1.5 yrs in Hindustan Motors (ambassador car factory) and then IOCL (Sept 2000-07 Jul). Regards Chakraborty Sreenadh [sreesog ] Wednesday, December 26, 2007 9:33 AM Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the native Dear Chakraborty ji, First thig first - provide the date of birth with time and location. Let me see the chart and then I will reply. Love and regards, Sreenadh , " Chakraborty, PL " <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote: > > Dear Sreenadh, > > I am also going thru' your mail and learning things. > > One question, if you please. > > What happens when 10H from Lagna has 2 / 3 planets ? > > One of my Junior has Cp lagna and Ma, Ve and Rahu in 10H. > He is undergoing Mer-Ve-Mer (Vim. dasha). (Mercury exalted > with Sun in Virgo.). 10H lord Ve sits in Pisces in Navamsha. > > He left his job in Mer-Ven-sat and trying to get a job in Gulf. > > So, how do I apply the techniques here ? > > 10H L is venus.. not connected to his job (engineer). > Rahu and Mars may signify petroleum and engg. > But no connection to Sun (he was in a PSU). > 2H is moon (parivartana with sat in Cn). > 10H lord in pisces ...again does not signify engg. > 2H has Moon and 11H is empty. > > 'Looking forward to reply. > > Regards > Chakra > > > Sreenadh [sreesog] > Monday, December 24, 2007 7:33 PM > > Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the > native > > > > Dear Vinita ji, > Lol....! That won't work always.. Note that " it is one of the > methods " But still, when I say so, I should clarify some of the other > possibilities as well. > 1) Income should be predicted based on the significance of the planet > present in 10th House from Lagna, Moon, or Sun. i.e. First check whether > there is a planet in 10th from Lagna, if not check whether there is a planet > in 10th from Moon, if not check whether there is a planet in 10th from Sun. > The said planet will provide income (job) based on its significance at some > point of time for sure. (Yes, proper Dasa or Antara can be considered) > 2) The benefic planets in 11-2-Lagna will provide income from different > sources during their corresponding Dasa-Antara. Thus Job could be related to > this as well in the corresponding periods. > 3) The Navamsa lord of the 10 HL can indicate the job. (But try using it > only after seeing the possibilities indicated by the first two) > Note that in the said horoscope, the first choice was not applicable due to > the absence of planets in 10th. Even the Ra in 10th was supposed to give the > result fo Venus the 10th lord from Lagna and Moon (Lagna and Moon was in > Leo). Thus I went for the Navamsa lord of the 10th House and that was Mars - > clearly explaining why the job was as a government servant, that too in > army. > Note: Do you see some lesson from the above note? > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , " vinita kumar " > shankar_mamta@ wrote: > > > > Shreenadh, i can only say WOW!!! > > > > tried to check this with the chart of another native who is a govt. > > servant. The lagna is Taurus, so the 10th lord is Saturn. In > > Navamsa, Saturn is in the amsa of Saggi while Jupiter in natal chart > > is conjoined with the Sun. Did i follow the steps correctly? > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Remesh ji, > > > ==> > > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct > > > > prediction. > > > <== > > > I totally agree with the above statement of yours. > > > ==> > > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt > > > > servant ? I could not find it out till now? > > > <== > > > That is some thing cute, and because of that statement I got > > > interested in the said horoscope. I hope the following is the > > birth > > > details under discussion. > > > ==> > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N > > > > 46, 84 E 23 > > > > > INDIA. > > > <== > > > One of the major method to determine the job of a native > > is " Karmesasya > > > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida " (Phaladeepika) > > meaning, " the > > > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa lord > > of the > > > 10th house lord from Natal lagna " > > > In the said horoscope, Lagna is Leo, 10th house is Tarus (with > > Ra in > > > it), 10th lord is Ve. The navamsa of Ve falls in Scorpio and Ve is > > > situated in Lagna Leo itself. Thus - > > > Karmesa = Ve > > > Karmesasya navamsa rasipa = lord of Scorpio = Ma. > > > Thus Mars is should signify the job of the native in the said > > > horoscope. With the 10th lord Ve in Leo (lord of Leo Sun is the > > > significator of Government) and also with Mars as the significator > > of > > > the job it no wonder that the native " is a govt, servant and that > > to0 in > > > armed forces " . > > > Hope the methodology and explanation is clear. > > > Love and regards, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > , ramesh mishra > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Jyothi Ji, > > > > Namaskar, > > > > I do appreciate your comments. > > > > I am not biased to any system. > > > > But ofcourse, I give priority no.1 to KAS. > > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct > > > > prediction. > > > > I have experienced VA more complicated and confusing > > > > for timing any event. > > > > Now as for the chart, the native's married life is not > > > > ok and sometimes there is querrelling among them and > > > > the situation becomes so nasty both of them becomes > > > > ready to divorce but after few hours everything comes > > > > to normal and they live together happily for months > > > > together. > > > > Nobody knows when the happy situation will take turn. > > > > As far as I know native never faced depression. > > > > He never went abroad and no chances in future also > > > > because his financial condition is not so strong. > > > > He has been mostly visiting many places in India. > > > > He took birth in a small village but after 4 years of > > > > birth he never stayed in his birth place . > > > > As I have stated in my mail he is a govt,servant and > > > > that to in armed forces. > > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt > > > > servant ? > > > > I could not find it out till now? > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > --- jyothi_b_lakshmi jyothi_b_lakshmi@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal > > > > > importance to 6th > > > > > lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing > > > > > divorce. I do not > > > > > know why you overlooked what I said about 6th lord > > > > > aspecting 7th and > > > > > tried to negate my reasoning by emphasising on 7th > > > > > lord in 12th. May > > > > > be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt > > > > > like putting down > > > > > what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying > > > > > reasoning by KAS > > > > > alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying > > > > > to integrate the > > > > > working points from all systems and trying to apply > > > > > them for my > > > > > learning. I am trying to pick up the best and > > > > > plausible clues from > > > > > all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying > > > > > to learn from > > > > > them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much. > > > > > Whatever methods > > > > > we follow, all must lead to the same results, that > > > > > is what astrology > > > > > must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody > > > > > can create their > > > > > own branches of this divine science and destroy it. > > > > > So please do not > > > > > try to crucify me at the first instance. > > > > > > > > > > Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot > > > > > create an event. My > > > > > sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not > > > > > divorced, > > > > > (Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is > > > > > in 12th it need > > > > > not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a > > > > > friendly sign can > > > > > modify the effects, can be just separation, husband > > > > > staying away due > > > > > to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord > > > > > can modify the > > > > > effects. A lot of other factors need to be > > > > > considered. I am not a > > > > > pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings > > > > > from whatever I > > > > > have read so far. Anyways I do believe that position > > > > > of 7th lord in > > > > > 12th does negatively affect marital harmony. This > > > > > what I have > > > > > observed. > > > > > > > > > > Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and > > > > > 12th lord Moon are > > > > > in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon > > > > > being in its own > > > > > sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th. > > > > > The negative > > > > > effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord > > > > > saturn with moon in > > > > > 12th, taking into account the opposite nature of > > > > > these planets, their > > > > > life can be very cold and indifferent without any > > > > > emotions towards > > > > > each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with > > > > > legal issues, court > > > > > cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce) > > > > > effects of saturn > > > > > is less when compared with 7th house effects because > > > > > 7th (Aquarius) > > > > > is the moola trikona of saturn. What I have > > > > > understood is if a planet > > > > > owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona, the result > > > > > of moola trikona > > > > > predominates. So again the chances of staying > > > > > together gains weight > > > > > than getting legally separated. > > > > > > > > > > Viewing in another angle, without considering the > > > > > exchange efects, > > > > > let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna > > > > > lord. As per what I > > > > > know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive > > > > > results to the houses > > > > > he is associated with by means of position, aspect, > > > > > association with > > > > > lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna > > > > > lord tries to > > > > > impart positive results for 7th as it is in > > > > > conjunction with 7th > > > > > lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being together > > > > > shows the native > > > > > and his partner trying to stick together > > > > > irrespective of the > > > > > differences. > > > > > These are the reasons I can find with my minimal > > > > > knowledge. If I am > > > > > wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I > > > > > think this > > > > > person's married life is as good as separated. > > > > > > > > > > For my learning, can you please let me know the > > > > > personlity of this > > > > > person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily > > > > > depressed? Also > > > > > was he always in his native place or did he go > > > > > abroad any time? Does > > > > > he have any serious health problems? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Jyothi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > ramesh mishra > > > > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jyothi, Ash and all, > > > > > > I give you one chart of a male native who is > > > > > closely related to > > > > > me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and 2nd > > > > > lord occupy 12th > > > > > house. > > > > > > According to the verdict of Jyothi he should > > > > > have divorced his > > > > > spouse > > > > > > because of 7th lord in 12th. > > > > > > In fact it is not so. They married 38 years > > > > > before and still > > > > > living together.No doubt there married life is hell > > > > > but staying > > > > > together. > > > > > > Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he > > > > > was not > > > > > divorced ? > > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB > > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N > > > > > 46, 84 E 23 > > > > > > INDIA. > > > > > > He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters. > > > > > > He served in defence forces in IAF and took > > > > > volunteerly > > > > > retirement after doing service in armed forces. > > > > > > Again after two years of retirement he got a job > > > > > in central > > > > > government. > > > > > > Between this period of two years, he was not > > > > > jobless.He has been > > > > > doing job in a private co. > > > > > > If she can analyse it will be good learning for > > > > > us. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Ash kas@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Jyothi, > > > > > > > > > > > > Here 2 laws of KAS are matching. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt. > > > > > > 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and > > > > > aspecting 7th > > > > > house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa. > > > > > > 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8 > > > > > points, and such > > > > > marriages will break in highest power planet so > > > > > dasha of Saturn when > > > > > it came it will break the marriage. > > > > > > 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3 > > > > > zeroes in SAV. > > > > > Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn, > > > > > will stick to > > > > > her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so > > > > > difference is much > > > > > more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons, > > > > > ego are very > > > > > fragile. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of > > > > > Ju and breaks in > > > > > Ju. As per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws > > > > > of KAS i.e. > > > > > Marriage in lowest power planet will break in > > > > > Highest power planet of > > > > > 6th or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is > > > > > very powerful, > > > > > being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E > > > > > along with Karak > > > > > i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Marriage in 6th lord's antra which is only 8 > > > > > points in 7th house > > > > > and breaks in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th > > > > > house > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Go to > > > http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway. 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Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Dear Krishna, Ignore my entire post. I made an error in casting a chart. In any case, it was a good exercise. I casted the chart using 26th Aug 1965, 7:05, 12N59, 77E35. Oh well. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca Ash [kas] Wednesday December 26, 2007 11:47 AM ' ' RE: RE:Reason Job of the native Dear Krishna, Planet Degrees Nakshatra Ld Nav As 23 Le 7 P.Phalguni Ve Li Su 10 Le 8 Makha Ke Cn Mo 29 Cn 56 Aslesha Me Pi Ma 11 Li 4 Swati Ra Cp Me 25 Cn 9 Aslesha Me Aq Ju 4 Ge 20 Mrigashira Ma Sc Ve 15 Vi 18 Hasta Mo Ta SaR 22 Aq 13 P.Bhadrapada Ju Ar Ra 16 Ta 57 Rohini Mo Ge Ke 16 Sc 57 Jyestha Me Sg This persons career should be linked to Ve, Me, Sa and linked to 2nd, 7th and 12th and the signs of Virgo, Cancer and Aquarius. Ve can give some luxury, artistic etc, Mercury can give some computation ability, Saturn can give public relation, of masses of people. This person has 4 sectors of Ju in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa and such persons can be quite diplomatic, believer in karma kand, dharmic, in search or having a Guru. I shall be interested in knowing his line of work where he has excelled in his life time. In addition also, his period in Mo MD Saturn 2002-Dec-23 2004-Jul-23 The above period he might have faced more problems or dissatisfaction at work or might have changed jobs. This person has average intelligence, but he might show that he is quite knowledgeable. He can twist words very nicely to be in his favor. This native will dress well for the occasion. Have a flair for the nice things and luxuries. Yes, this person will also not show opposition directly and will listen but do what he likes. If he is in a job he will be in some position of authority of will like his space to do things the way he wants to do, so mostly in business or if in job then he might be happy at a higher post where he can do things his way or else he might be dissatisfied quickly. Antra’s of Sa, Ma and Su he will face more expenditure or changes in job and some difficulty in saving money. This is as per Krushna’s ayanamsa. Venus 2006-Jul-24 2008-Mar-24 Sun 2008-Mar-24 2008-Sep-22 Currently in his current Venus antra, he might be enjoying good authority and but much more effort as compared to returns. He will also be able to impress people in Ve antra. This period should be quite satisfactory w.r.t his career, however he will face opposition from his bosses or subordinates and unnecessary worries. He will overcome his opposition though and right now transit power of Sa and Ju are 7. After December 5th, 2008 the power will become 10 and that time, the environment will become more conducive to him. He must also be careful as he might face some court case. Next antra of Sun he will face more expenses, and he might purchase some property / car or some thing of that sort. Krishna, can you please let me know if I have assessed his nature somewhat correctly and also if u can either personally or on list update me on his future it will be good learning. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Krishnamurthy Seetharama Wednesday December 26, 2007 7:01 AM Re: RE:Reason Job of the native Dear All, A good discussion is going on on Profession. I would like to present a chart and ask if anyone can come up with the profession of the following native: Sex: Male DOB: Aug 26, 1963 TOB: 7:05 am POB: Bangalore I don't need any reading on this chart, hence this is not a chart reading request. I know this person for about 20 years. I know the birth details of are pretty accurate. His father was interested in astrology and hence has made a careful record of his son's birth time. I want members to just come up with the pssoible profession of this native. Regards, Krishna Ash <kas wrote: Dear Chakraborty, 10th lord from Lagna is Venus and Venus is in navamsa of Jupiter Planets in 10th house are Venus and Venus is again in navamsa of Ju Ma is in 10th house and it is in navamsa of Mars Ra is in navamsa of Sa. 10th lord from Moon is Mars and Mars is in navamsa of Sco so ruled by Mars 10th lord from Sun is Gemini ruled by Mercury and Mercury is in navamsa of Saturn. So career giving planets are Ma, Sa, Ju, Ju. You also have Venus who is with 3 bindus in 10th house so again it shows good skills in management with more of artistic touch. Now, Bring these planets back into Rasi. Ma is in 10th house so house of authority and its in sign of Libra Sa is in 7th house and its in watery sign of Cancer Jupiter is in 5th house in the fixed sign of Taurus. So this can show Metallurgical Engineering related to Mo and Ve (so can be petroleum or some liquids) and also Management or advisory role – Ju or consulting. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Chakraborty, PL Tuesday December 25, 2007 11:26 PM ' ' RE: Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the native Dear Sreenadh-ji, Following are the details. DOB : October 6, 1976 TOB : 13:30 hrs (+/- 5 min) Kolkata, 88 E 22, 22N34, And he insists that 10H has Ma+Ve+Ra in his original Kundli at home. He is a Metallurgical engr, worked for 1.5 yrs in Hindustan Motors (ambassador car factory) and then IOCL (Sept 2000-07 Jul). Regards Chakraborty Sreenadh [sreesog ] Wednesday, December 26, 2007 9:33 AM Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the native Dear Chakraborty ji, First thig first - provide the date of birth with time and location. Let me see the chart and then I will reply. Love and regards, Sreenadh , " Chakraborty, PL " <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote: > > Dear Sreenadh, > > I am also going thru' your mail and learning things. > > One question, if you please. > > What happens when 10H from Lagna has 2 / 3 planets ? > > One of my Junior has Cp lagna and Ma, Ve and Rahu in 10H. > He is undergoing Mer-Ve-Mer (Vim. dasha). (Mercury exalted > with Sun in Virgo.). 10H lord Ve sits in Pisces in Navamsha. > > He left his job in Mer-Ven-sat and trying to get a job in Gulf. > > So, how do I apply the techniques here ? > > 10H L is venus.. not connected to his job (engineer). > Rahu and Mars may signify petroleum and engg. > But no connection to Sun (he was in a PSU). > 2H is moon (parivartana with sat in Cn). > 10H lord in pisces ...again does not signify engg. > 2H has Moon and 11H is empty. > > 'Looking forward to reply. > > Regards > Chakra > > > Sreenadh [sreesog] > Monday, December 24, 2007 7:33 PM > > Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the > native > > > > Dear Vinita ji, > Lol....! That won't work always.. Note that " it is one of the > methods " But still, when I say so, I should clarify some of the other > possibilities as well. > 1) Income should be predicted based on the significance of the planet > present in 10th House from Lagna, Moon, or Sun. i.e. First check whether > there is a planet in 10th from Lagna, if not check whether there is a planet > in 10th from Moon, if not check whether there is a planet in 10th from Sun. > The said planet will provide income (job) based on its significance at some > point of time for sure. (Yes, proper Dasa or Antara can be considered) > 2) The benefic planets in 11-2-Lagna will provide income from different > sources during their corresponding Dasa-Antara. Thus Job could be related to > this as well in the corresponding periods. > 3) The Navamsa lord of the 10 HL can indicate the job. (But try using it > only after seeing the possibilities indicated by the first two) > Note that in the said horoscope, the first choice was not applicable due to > the absence of planets in 10th. Even the Ra in 10th was supposed to give the > result fo Venus the 10th lord from Lagna and Moon (Lagna and Moon was in > Leo). Thus I went for the Navamsa lord of the 10th House and that was Mars - > clearly explaining why the job was as a government servant, that too in > army. > Note: Do you see some lesson from the above note? > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , " vinita kumar " > shankar_mamta@ wrote: > > > > Shreenadh, i can only say WOW!!! > > > > tried to check this with the chart of another native who is a govt. > > servant. The lagna is Taurus, so the 10th lord is Saturn. In > > Navamsa, Saturn is in the amsa of Saggi while Jupiter in natal chart > > is conjoined with the Sun. Did i follow the steps correctly? > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Remesh ji, > > > ==> > > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct > > > > prediction. > > > <== > > > I totally agree with the above statement of yours. > > > ==> > > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt > > > > servant ? I could not find it out till now? > > > <== > > > That is some thing cute, and because of that statement I got > > > interested in the said horoscope. I hope the following is the > > birth > > > details under discussion. > > > ==> > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N > > > > 46, 84 E 23 > > > > > INDIA. > > > <== > > > One of the major method to determine the job of a native > > is " Karmesasya > > > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida " (Phaladeepika) > > meaning, " the > > > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa lord > > of the > > > 10th house lord from Natal lagna " > > > In the said horoscope, Lagna is Leo, 10th house is Tarus (with > > Ra in > > > it), 10th lord is Ve. The navamsa of Ve falls in Scorpio and Ve is > > > situated in Lagna Leo itself. Thus - > > > Karmesa = Ve > > > Karmesasya navamsa rasipa = lord of Scorpio = Ma. > > > Thus Mars is should signify the job of the native in the said > > > horoscope. With the 10th lord Ve in Leo (lord of Leo Sun is the > > > significator of Government) and also with Mars as the significator > > of > > > the job it no wonder that the native " is a govt, servant and that > > to0 in > > > armed forces " . > > > Hope the methodology and explanation is clear. > > > Love and regards, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > , ramesh mishra > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Jyothi Ji, > > > > Namaskar, > > > > I do appreciate your comments. > > > > I am not biased to any system. > > > > But ofcourse, I give priority no.1 to KAS. > > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct > > > > prediction. > > > > I have experienced VA more complicated and confusing > > > > for timing any event. > > > > Now as for the chart, the native's married life is not > > > > ok and sometimes there is querrelling among them and > > > > the situation becomes so nasty both of them becomes > > > > ready to divorce but after few hours everything comes > > > > to normal and they live together happily for months > > > > together. > > > > Nobody knows when the happy situation will take turn. > > > > As far as I know native never faced depression. > > > > He never went abroad and no chances in future also > > > > because his financial condition is not so strong. > > > > He has been mostly visiting many places in India. > > > > He took birth in a small village but after 4 years of > > > > birth he never stayed in his birth place . > > > > As I have stated in my mail he is a govt,servant and > > > > that to in armed forces. > > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt > > > > servant ? > > > > I could not find it out till now? > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > --- jyothi_b_lakshmi jyothi_b_lakshmi@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal > > > > > importance to 6th > > > > > lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing > > > > > divorce. I do not > > > > > know why you overlooked what I said about 6th lord > > > > > aspecting 7th and > > > > > tried to negate my reasoning by emphasising on 7th > > > > > lord in 12th. May > > > > > be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt > > > > > like putting down > > > > > what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying > > > > > reasoning by KAS > > > > > alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying > > > > > to integrate the > > > > > working points from all systems and trying to apply > > > > > them for my > > > > > learning. I am trying to pick up the best and > > > > > plausible clues from > > > > > all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying > > > > > to learn from > > > > > them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much. > > > > > Whatever methods > > > > > we follow, all must lead to the same results, that > > > > > is what astrology > > > > > must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody > > > > > can create their > > > > > own branches of this divine science and destroy it. > > > > > So please do not > > > > > try to crucify me at the first instance. > > > > > > > > > > Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot > > > > > create an event. My > > > > > sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not > > > > > divorced, > > > > > (Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is > > > > > in 12th it need > > > > > not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a > > > > > friendly sign can > > > > > modify the effects, can be just separation, husband > > > > > staying away due > > > > > to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord > > > > > can modify the > > > > > effects. A lot of other factors need to be > > > > > considered. I am not a > > > > > pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings > > > > > from whatever I > > > > > have read so far. Anyways I do believe that position > > > > > of 7th lord in > > > > > 12th does negatively affect marital harmony. This > > > > > what I have > > > > > observed. > > > > > > > > > > Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and > > > > > 12th lord Moon are > > > > > in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon > > > > > being in its own > > > > > sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th. > > > > > The negative > > > > > effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord > > > > > saturn with moon in > > > > > 12th, taking into account the opposite nature of > > > > > these planets, their > > > > > life can be very cold and indifferent without any > > > > > emotions towards > > > > > each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with > > > > > legal issues, court > > > > > cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce) > > > > > effects of saturn > > > > > is less when compared with 7th house effects because > > > > > 7th (Aquarius) > > > > > is the moola trikona of saturn. What I have > > > > > understood is if a planet > > > > > owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona, the result > > > > > of moola trikona > > > > > predominates. So again the chances of staying > > > > > together gains weight > > > > > than getting legally separated. > > > > > > > > > > Viewing in another angle, without considering the > > > > > exchange efects, > > > > > let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna > > > > > lord. As per what I > > > > > know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive > > > > > results to the houses > > > > > he is associated with by means of position, aspect, > > > > > association with > > > > > lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna > > > > > lord tries to > > > > > impart positive results for 7th as it is in > > > > > conjunction with 7th > > > > > lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being together > > > > > shows the native > > > > > and his partner trying to stick together > > > > > irrespective of the > > > > > differences. > > > > > These are the reasons I can find with my minimal > > > > > knowledge. If I am > > > > > wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I > > > > > think this > > > > > person's married life is as good as separated. > > > > > > > > > > For my learning, can you please let me know the > > > > > personlity of this > > > > > person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily > > > > > depressed? Also > > > > > was he always in his native place or did he go > > > > > abroad any time? Does > > > > > he have any serious health problems? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Jyothi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > ramesh mishra > > > > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jyothi, Ash and all, > > > > > > I give you one chart of a male native who is > > > > > closely related to > > > > > me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and 2nd > > > > > lord occupy 12th > > > > > house. > > > > > > According to the verdict of Jyothi he should > > > > > have divorced his > > > > > spouse > > > > > > because of 7th lord in 12th. > > > > > > In fact it is not so. They married 38 years > > > > > before and still > > > > > living together.No doubt there married life is hell > > > > > but staying > > > > > together. > > > > > > Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he > > > > > was not > > > > > divorced ? > > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB > > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N > > > > > 46, 84 E 23 > > > > > > INDIA. > > > > > > He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters. > > > > > > He served in defence forces in IAF and took > > > > > volunteerly > > > > > retirement after doing service in armed forces. > > > > > > Again after two years of retirement he got a job > > > > > in central > > > > > government. > > > > > > Between this period of two years, he was not > > > > > jobless.He has been > > > > > doing job in a private co. > > > > > > If she can analyse it will be good learning for > > > > > us. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Ash kas@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Jyothi, > > > > > > > > > > > > Here 2 laws of KAS are matching. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt. > > > > > > 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and > > > > > aspecting 7th > > > > > house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa. > > > > > > 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8 > > > > > points, and such > > > > > marriages will break in highest power planet so > > > > > dasha of Saturn when > > > > > it came it will break the marriage. > > > > > > 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3 > > > > > zeroes in SAV. > > > > > Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn, > > > > > will stick to > > > > > her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so > > > > > difference is much > > > > > more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons, > > > > > ego are very > > > > > fragile. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of > > > > > Ju and breaks in > > > > > Ju. As per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws > > > > > of KAS i.e. > > > > > Marriage in lowest power planet will break in > > > > > Highest power planet of > > > > > 6th or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is > > > > > very powerful, > > > > > being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E > > > > > along with Karak > > > > > i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Marriage in 6th lord's antra which is only 8 > > > > > points in 7th house > > > > > and breaks in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th > > > > > house > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Go to > > > http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway. 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Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Dear Krishna, Planet Degrees Nakshatra Ld Nav As 22 Le 39 P.Phalguni Ve Li Su 9 Le 40 Makha Ke Ge Mo 26 Li 21 Visakha Ju Ta Ma 26 Vi 12 Chitra Ma Le Me 6 Vi 53 U.Phalguni Su Pi JuR 26 Pi 35 Revati Me Aq Ve 8 Le 34 Makha Ke Ge SaR 26 Cp 22 Dhanistha Ma Le Ra 25 Ge 41 Punarvasu Ju Ta Ke 25 Sg 41 P.Asadha Ve Sc This persons career will be linked to Me and Ve and Me is in Virgo in Rasi and Venus is in Leo so related to these signs and Leo is in 1st house in Rasi and Me is in 2nd house in Virgo. He has 3 sectors in Me and 1 in Sa, showing a sharp mind. Lagna, Sun and Moon falling in the sectors of the D9, D3, and D30 divisional charts. D9 D3 D30 Lg Ve Ma Me Su Me Su Sa Mo Ve Me Ve Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Krishnamurthy Seetharama Wednesday December 26, 2007 7:01 AM Re: RE:Reason Job of the native Dear All, A good discussion is going on on Profession. I would like to present a chart and ask if anyone can come up with the profession of the following native: Sex: Male DOB: Aug 26, 1963 TOB: 7:05 am POB: Bangalore I don't need any reading on this chart, hence this is not a chart reading request. I know this person for about 20 years. I know the birth details of are pretty accurate. His father was interested in astrology and hence has made a careful record of his son's birth time. I want members to just come up with the pssoible profession of this native. Regards, Krishna Ash <kas wrote: Dear Chakraborty, 10th lord from Lagna is Venus and Venus is in navamsa of Jupiter Planets in 10th house are Venus and Venus is again in navamsa of Ju Ma is in 10th house and it is in navamsa of Mars Ra is in navamsa of Sa. 10th lord from Moon is Mars and Mars is in navamsa of Sco so ruled by Mars 10th lord from Sun is Gemini ruled by Mercury and Mercury is in navamsa of Saturn. So career giving planets are Ma, Sa, Ju, Ju. You also have Venus who is with 3 bindus in 10th house so again it shows good skills in management with more of artistic touch. Now, Bring these planets back into Rasi. Ma is in 10th house so house of authority and its in sign of Libra Sa is in 7th house and its in watery sign of Cancer Jupiter is in 5th house in the fixed sign of Taurus. So this can show Metallurgical Engineering related to Mo and Ve (so can be petroleum or some liquids) and also Management or advisory role – Ju or consulting. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Chakraborty, PL Tuesday December 25, 2007 11:26 PM ' ' RE: Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the native Dear Sreenadh-ji, Following are the details. DOB : October 6, 1976 TOB : 13:30 hrs (+/- 5 min) Kolkata, 88 E 22, 22N34, And he insists that 10H has Ma+Ve+Ra in his original Kundli at home. He is a Metallurgical engr, worked for 1.5 yrs in Hindustan Motors (ambassador car factory) and then IOCL (Sept 2000-07 Jul). Regards Chakraborty Sreenadh [sreesog ] Wednesday, December 26, 2007 9:33 AM Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the native Dear Chakraborty ji, First thig first - provide the date of birth with time and location. Let me see the chart and then I will reply. Love and regards, Sreenadh , " Chakraborty, PL " <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote: > > Dear Sreenadh, > > I am also going thru' your mail and learning things. > > One question, if you please. > > What happens when 10H from Lagna has 2 / 3 planets ? > > One of my Junior has Cp lagna and Ma, Ve and Rahu in 10H. > He is undergoing Mer-Ve-Mer (Vim. dasha). (Mercury exalted > with Sun in Virgo.). 10H lord Ve sits in Pisces in Navamsha. > > He left his job in Mer-Ven-sat and trying to get a job in Gulf. > > So, how do I apply the techniques here ? > > 10H L is venus.. not connected to his job (engineer). > Rahu and Mars may signify petroleum and engg. > But no connection to Sun (he was in a PSU). > 2H is moon (parivartana with sat in Cn). > 10H lord in pisces ...again does not signify engg. > 2H has Moon and 11H is empty. > > 'Looking forward to reply. > > Regards > Chakra > > > Sreenadh [sreesog] > Monday, December 24, 2007 7:33 PM > > Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the > native > > > > Dear Vinita ji, > Lol....! That won't work always.. Note that " it is one of the > methods " But still, when I say so, I should clarify some of the other > possibilities as well. > 1) Income should be predicted based on the significance of the planet > present in 10th House from Lagna, Moon, or Sun. i.e. First check whether > there is a planet in 10th from Lagna, if not check whether there is a planet > in 10th from Moon, if not check whether there is a planet in 10th from Sun. > The said planet will provide income (job) based on its significance at some > point of time for sure. (Yes, proper Dasa or Antara can be considered) > 2) The benefic planets in 11-2-Lagna will provide income from different > sources during their corresponding Dasa-Antara. Thus Job could be related to > this as well in the corresponding periods. > 3) The Navamsa lord of the 10 HL can indicate the job. (But try using it > only after seeing the possibilities indicated by the first two) > Note that in the said horoscope, the first choice was not applicable due to > the absence of planets in 10th. Even the Ra in 10th was supposed to give the > result fo Venus the 10th lord from Lagna and Moon (Lagna and Moon was in > Leo). Thus I went for the Navamsa lord of the 10th House and that was Mars - > clearly explaining why the job was as a government servant, that too in > army. > Note: Do you see some lesson from the above note? > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , " vinita kumar " > shankar_mamta@ wrote: > > > > Shreenadh, i can only say WOW!!! > > > > tried to check this with the chart of another native who is a govt. > > servant. The lagna is Taurus, so the 10th lord is Saturn. In > > Navamsa, Saturn is in the amsa of Saggi while Jupiter in natal chart > > is conjoined with the Sun. Did i follow the steps correctly? > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Remesh ji, > > > ==> > > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct > > > > prediction. > > > <== > > > I totally agree with the above statement of yours. > > > ==> > > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt > > > > servant ? I could not find it out till now? > > > <== > > > That is some thing cute, and because of that statement I got > > > interested in the said horoscope. I hope the following is the > > birth > > > details under discussion. > > > ==> > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N > > > > 46, 84 E 23 > > > > > INDIA. > > > <== > > > One of the major method to determine the job of a native > > is " Karmesasya > > > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida " (Phaladeepika) > > meaning, " the > > > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa lord > > of the > > > 10th house lord from Natal lagna " > > > In the said horoscope, Lagna is Leo, 10th house is Tarus (with > > Ra in > > > it), 10th lord is Ve. The navamsa of Ve falls in Scorpio and Ve is > > > situated in Lagna Leo itself. Thus - > > > Karmesa = Ve > > > Karmesasya navamsa rasipa = lord of Scorpio = Ma. > > > Thus Mars is should signify the job of the native in the said > > > horoscope. With the 10th lord Ve in Leo (lord of Leo Sun is the > > > significator of Government) and also with Mars as the significator > > of > > > the job it no wonder that the native " is a govt, servant and that > > to0 in > > > armed forces " . > > > Hope the methodology and explanation is clear. > > > Love and regards, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > , ramesh mishra > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Jyothi Ji, > > > > Namaskar, > > > > I do appreciate your comments. > > > > I am not biased to any system. > > > > But ofcourse, I give priority no.1 to KAS. > > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct > > > > prediction. > > > > I have experienced VA more complicated and confusing > > > > for timing any event. > > > > Now as for the chart, the native's married life is not > > > > ok and sometimes there is querrelling among them and > > > > the situation becomes so nasty both of them becomes > > > > ready to divorce but after few hours everything comes > > > > to normal and they live together happily for months > > > > together. > > > > Nobody knows when the happy situation will take turn. > > > > As far as I know native never faced depression. > > > > He never went abroad and no chances in future also > > > > because his financial condition is not so strong. > > > > He has been mostly visiting many places in India. > > > > He took birth in a small village but after 4 years of > > > > birth he never stayed in his birth place . > > > > As I have stated in my mail he is a govt,servant and > > > > that to in armed forces. > > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt > > > > servant ? > > > > I could not find it out till now? > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > --- jyothi_b_lakshmi jyothi_b_lakshmi@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal > > > > > importance to 6th > > > > > lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing > > > > > divorce. I do not > > > > > know why you overlooked what I said about 6th lord > > > > > aspecting 7th and > > > > > tried to negate my reasoning by emphasising on 7th > > > > > lord in 12th. May > > > > > be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt > > > > > like putting down > > > > > what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying > > > > > reasoning by KAS > > > > > alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying > > > > > to integrate the > > > > > working points from all systems and trying to apply > > > > > them for my > > > > > learning. I am trying to pick up the best and > > > > > plausible clues from > > > > > all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying > > > > > to learn from > > > > > them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much. > > > > > Whatever methods > > > > > we follow, all must lead to the same results, that > > > > > is what astrology > > > > > must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody > > > > > can create their > > > > > own branches of this divine science and destroy it. > > > > > So please do not > > > > > try to crucify me at the first instance. > > > > > > > > > > Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot > > > > > create an event. My > > > > > sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not > > > > > divorced, > > > > > (Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is > > > > > in 12th it need > > > > > not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a > > > > > friendly sign can > > > > > modify the effects, can be just separation, husband > > > > > staying away due > > > > > to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord > > > > > can modify the > > > > > effects. A lot of other factors need to be > > > > > considered. I am not a > > > > > pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings > > > > > from whatever I > > > > > have read so far. Anyways I do believe that position > > > > > of 7th lord in > > > > > 12th does negatively affect marital harmony. This > > > > > what I have > > > > > observed. > > > > > > > > > > Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and > > > > > 12th lord Moon are > > > > > in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon > > > > > being in its own > > > > > sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th. > > > > > The negative > > > > > effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord > > > > > saturn with moon in > > > > > 12th, taking into account the opposite nature of > > > > > these planets, their > > > > > life can be very cold and indifferent without any > > > > > emotions towards > > > > > each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with > > > > > legal issues, court > > > > > cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce) > > > > > effects of saturn > > > > > is less when compared with 7th house effects because > > > > > 7th (Aquarius) > > > > > is the moola trikona of saturn. What I have > > > > > understood is if a planet > > > > > owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona, the result > > > > > of moola trikona > > > > > predominates. So again the chances of staying > > > > > together gains weight > > > > > than getting legally separated. > > > > > > > > > > Viewing in another angle, without considering the > > > > > exchange efects, > > > > > let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna > > > > > lord. As per what I > > > > > know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive > > > > > results to the houses > > > > > he is associated with by means of position, aspect, > > > > > association with > > > > > lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna > > > > > lord tries to > > > > > impart positive results for 7th as it is in > > > > > conjunction with 7th > > > > > lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being together > > > > > shows the native > > > > > and his partner trying to stick together > > > > > irrespective of the > > > > > differences. > > > > > These are the reasons I can find with my minimal > > > > > knowledge. If I am > > > > > wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I > > > > > think this > > > > > person's married life is as good as separated. > > > > > > > > > > For my learning, can you please let me know the > > > > > personlity of this > > > > > person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily > > > > > depressed? Also > > > > > was he always in his native place or did he go > > > > > abroad any time? Does > > > > > he have any serious health problems? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Jyothi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > ramesh mishra > > > > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jyothi, Ash and all, > > > > > > I give you one chart of a male native who is > > > > > closely related to > > > > > me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and 2nd > > > > > lord occupy 12th > > > > > house. > > > > > > According to the verdict of Jyothi he should > > > > > have divorced his > > > > > spouse > > > > > > because of 7th lord in 12th. > > > > > > In fact it is not so. They married 38 years > > > > > before and still > > > > > living together.No doubt there married life is hell > > > > > but staying > > > > > together. > > > > > > Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he > > > > > was not > > > > > divorced ? > > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB > > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N > > > > > 46, 84 E 23 > > > > > > INDIA. > > > > > > He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters. > > > > > > He served in defence forces in IAF and took > > > > > volunteerly > > > > > retirement after doing service in armed forces. > > > > > > Again after two years of retirement he got a job > > > > > in central > > > > > government. > > > > > > Between this period of two years, he was not > > > > > jobless.He has been > > > > > doing job in a private co. > > > > > > If she can analyse it will be good learning for > > > > > us. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Ash kas@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Jyothi, > > > > > > > > > > > > Here 2 laws of KAS are matching. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt. > > > > > > 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and > > > > > aspecting 7th > > > > > house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa. > > > > > > 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8 > > > > > points, and such > > > > > marriages will break in highest power planet so > > > > > dasha of Saturn when > > > > > it came it will break the marriage. > > > > > > 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3 > > > > > zeroes in SAV. > > > > > Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn, > > > > > will stick to > > > > > her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so > > > > > difference is much > > > > > more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons, > > > > > ego are very > > > > > fragile. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of > > > > > Ju and breaks in > > > > > Ju. As per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws > > > > > of KAS i.e. > > > > > Marriage in lowest power planet will break in > > > > > Highest power planet of > > > > > 6th or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is > > > > > very powerful, > > > > > being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E > > > > > along with Karak > > > > > i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Marriage in 6th lord's antra which is only 8 > > > > > points in 7th house > > > > > and breaks in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th > > > > > house > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Go to > > > http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway. 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Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Namastae Krishnaji, In my assessment , he is either in teaching /Banking (Insurance) profession Durga , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:>> Dear All,> > A good discussion is going on on Profession. I would like to present a chart and ask if anyone can come up with the profession of the following native:> > Sex: Male> DOB: Aug 26, 1963> TOB: 7:05 am> POB: Bangalore> > I don't need any reading on this chart, hence this is not a chart reading request. I know this person for about 20 years. I know the birth details of are pretty accurate. His father was interested in astrology and hence has made a careful record of his son's birth time. I want members to just come up with the pssoible profession of this native.> > Regards,> Krishna> > Ash kas wrote:> Dear Chakraborty,> > 10th lord from Lagna is Venus and Venus is in navamsa of Jupiter> Planets in 10th house are Venus and Venus is again in navamsa of Ju > Ma is in 10th house and it is in navamsa of Mars> Ra is in navamsa of Sa.> > > 10th lord from Moon is Mars and Mars is in navamsa of Sco so ruled by Mars> > 10th lord from Sun is Gemini ruled by Mercury and Mercury is in navamsa of Saturn.> > So career giving planets are Ma, Sa, Ju, Ju.> > You also have Venus who is with 3 bindus in 10th house so again it shows good skills in management with more of artistic touch.> > Now, Bring these planets back into Rasi.> > Ma is in 10th house so house of authority and its in sign of Libra> Sa is in 7th house and its in watery sign of Cancer> Jupiter is in 5th house in the fixed sign of Taurus.> > So this can show Metallurgical Engineering related to Mo and Ve (so can be petroleum or some liquids) and also Management or advisory role – Ju or consulting. > > Cheers !!!> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > On Behalf Of Chakraborty, PL> Tuesday December 25, 2007 11:26 PM> ' '> RE: Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the native> > > Dear Sreenadh-ji,> > Following are the details.> > > > DOB : October 6, 1976> > TOB : 13:30 hrs (+/- 5 min)> > Kolkata, 88 E 22, 22N34,> > And he insists that 10H has Ma+Ve+Ra in> > his original Kundli at home.> > > > He is a Metallurgical engr, worked for 1.5 yrs in > > Hindustan Motors (ambassador car factory) > > and then IOCL (Sept 2000-07 Jul).> > > > Regards> > > > Chakraborty> > > Sreenadh [sreesog]> Wednesday, December 26, 2007 9:33 AM> > Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the native> Dear Chakraborty ji,> First thig first - provide the date of birth with time and location. Let me see the chart and then I will reply.> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> , "Chakraborty, PL" CHAKRABORTYP2@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sreenadh,> > > > I am also going thru' your mail and learning things.> > > > One question, if you please.> > > > What happens when 10H from Lagna has 2 / 3 planets ?> > > > One of my Junior has Cp lagna and Ma, Ve and Rahu in 10H.> > He is undergoing Mer-Ve-Mer (Vim. dasha). (Mercury exalted> > with Sun in Virgo.). 10H lord Ve sits in Pisces in Navamsha.> > > > He left his job in Mer-Ven-sat and trying to get a job in Gulf.> > > > So, how do I apply the techniques here ?> > > > 10H L is venus.. not connected to his job (engineer).> > Rahu and Mars may signify petroleum and engg.> > But no connection to Sun (he was in a PSU).> > 2H is moon (parivartana with sat in Cn).> > 10H lord in pisces ...again does not signify engg.> > 2H has Moon and 11H is empty.> > > > 'Looking forward to reply.> > > > Regards> > Chakra> > > > > > Sreenadh [sreesog@]> > Monday, December 24, 2007 7:33 PM> > > > Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the> > native> > > > > > > > Dear Vinita ji,> > Lol....! That won't work always.. Note that "it is one of the> > methods" But still, when I say so, I should clarify some of the other> > possibilities as well. > > 1) Income should be predicted based on the significance of the planet> > present in 10th House from Lagna, Moon, or Sun. i.e. First check whether> > there is a planet in 10th from Lagna, if not check whether there is a planet> > in 10th from Moon, if not check whether there is a planet in 10th from Sun.> > The said planet will provide income (job) based on its significance at some> > point of time for sure. (Yes, proper Dasa or Antara can be considered)> > 2) The benefic planets in 11-2-Lagna will provide income from different> > sources during their corresponding Dasa-Antara. Thus Job could be related to> > this as well in the corresponding periods.> > 3) The Navamsa lord of the 10 HL can indicate the job. (But try using it> > only after seeing the possibilities indicated by the first two)> > Note that in the said horoscope, the first choice was not applicable due to> > the absence of planets in 10th. Even the Ra in 10th was supposed to give the> > result fo Venus the 10th lord from Lagna and Moon (Lagna and Moon was in> > Leo). Thus I went for the Navamsa lord of the 10th House and that was Mars -> > clearly explaining why the job was as a government servant, that too in> > army. > > Note: Do you see some lesson from the above note? > > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > , "vinita kumar"> > shankar_mamta@ wrote:> > >> > > Shreenadh, i can only say WOW!!!> > > > > > tried to check this with the chart of another native who is a govt. > > > servant. The lagna is Taurus, so the 10th lord is Saturn. In > > > Navamsa, Saturn is in the amsa of Saggi while Jupiter in natal chart > > > is conjoined with the Sun. Did i follow the steps correctly? > > > > > > , "Sreenadh" > > > sreesog@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Remesh ji,> > > > ==>> > > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > > > prediction.> > > > <==> > > > I totally agree with the above statement of yours. > > > > ==>> > > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > > > servant ? I could not find it out till now?> > > > <==> > > > That is some thing cute, and because of that statement I got> > > > interested in the said horoscope. I hope the following is the > > > birth> > > > details under discussion.> > > > ==>> > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > > INDIA.> > > > <==> > > > One of the major method to determine the job of a native > > > is "Karmesasya> > > > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida" (Phaladeepika) > > > meaning, "the > > > > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa lord > > > of the> > > > 10th house lord from Natal lagna"> > > > In the said horoscope, Lagna is Leo, 10th house is Tarus (with > > > Ra in> > > > it), 10th lord is Ve. The navamsa of Ve falls in Scorpio and Ve is> > > > situated in Lagna Leo itself. Thus -> > > > Karmesa = Ve> > > > Karmesasya navamsa rasipa = lord of Scorpio = Ma.> > > > Thus Mars is should signify the job of the native in the said> > > > horoscope. With the 10th lord Ve in Leo (lord of Leo Sun is the> > > > significator of Government) and also with Mars as the significator > > > of> > > > the job it no wonder that the native "is a govt, servant and that > > > to0 in> > > > armed forces".> > > > Hope the methodology and explanation is clear.> > > > Love and regards,> > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > , ramesh mishra> > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Jyothi Ji,> > > > > Namaskar,> > > > > I do appreciate your comments.> > > > > I am not biased to any system.> > > > > But ofcourse, I give priority no.1 to KAS.> > > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > > > prediction.> > > > > I have experienced VA more complicated and confusing> > > > > for timing any event.> > > > > Now as for the chart, the native's married life is not> > > > > ok and sometimes there is querrelling among them and> > > > > the situation becomes so nasty both of them becomes> > > > > ready to divorce but after few hours everything comes> > > > > to normal and they live together happily for months> > > > > together.> > > > > Nobody knows when the happy situation will take turn.> > > > > As far as I know native never faced depression.> > > > > He never went abroad and no chances in future also> > > > > because his financial condition is not so strong.> > > > > He has been mostly visiting many places in India.> > > > > He took birth in a small village but after 4 years of> > > > > birth he never stayed in his birth place .> > > > > As I have stated in my mail he is a govt,servant and> > > > > that to in armed forces.> > > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > > > servant ?> > > > > I could not find it out till now?> > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > >> > > > > --- jyothi_b_lakshmi jyothi_b_lakshmi@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > > >> > > > > > When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal> > > > > > importance to 6th> > > > > > lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing> > > > > > divorce. I do not> > > > > > know why you overlooked what I said about 6th lord> > > > > > aspecting 7th and> > > > > > tried to negate my reasoning by emphasising on 7th> > > > > > lord in 12th. May> > > > > > be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt> > > > > > like putting down> > > > > > what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying> > > > > > reasoning by KAS> > > > > > alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying> > > > > > to integrate the> > > > > > working points from all systems and trying to apply> > > > > > them for my> > > > > > learning. I am trying to pick up the best and> > > > > > plausible clues from> > > > > > all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying> > > > > > to learn from> > > > > > them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much.> > > > > > Whatever methods> > > > > > we follow, all must lead to the same results, that> > > > > > is what astrology> > > > > > must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody> > > > > > can create their> > > > > > own branches of this divine science and destroy it.> > > > > > So please do not> > > > > > try to crucify me at the first instance.> > > > > >> > > > > > Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot> > > > > > create an event. My> > > > > > sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not> > > > > > divorced,> > > > > > (Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is> > > > > > in 12th it need> > > > > > not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a> > > > > > friendly sign can> > > > > > modify the effects, can be just separation, husband> > > > > > staying away due> > > > > > to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord> > > > > > can modify the> > > > > > effects. A lot of other factors need to be> > > > > > considered. I am not a> > > > > > pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings> > > > > > from whatever I> > > > > > have read so far. Anyways I do believe that position> > > > > > of 7th lord in> > > > > > 12th does negatively affect marital harmony. This> > > > > > what I have> > > > > > observed.> > > > > >> > > > > > Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and> > > > > > 12th lord Moon are> > > > > > in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon> > > > > > being in its own> > > > > > sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th.> > > > > > The negative> > > > > > effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord> > > > > > saturn with moon in> > > > > > 12th, taking into account the opposite nature of> > > > > > these planets, their> > > > > > life can be very cold and indifferent without any> > > > > > emotions towards> > > > > > each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with> > > > > > legal issues, court> > > > > > cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce)> > > > > > effects of saturn> > > > > > is less when compared with 7th house effects because> > > > > > 7th (Aquarius)> > > > > > is the moola trikona of saturn. What I have> > > > > > understood is if a planet> > > > > > owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona, the result> > > > > > of moola trikona> > > > > > predominates. So again the chances of staying> > > > > > together gains weight> > > > > > than getting legally separated.> > > > > >> > > > > > Viewing in another angle, without considering the> > > > > > exchange efects,> > > > > > let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna> > > > > > lord. As per what I> > > > > > know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive> > > > > > results to the houses> > > > > > he is associated with by means of position, aspect,> > > > > > association with> > > > > > lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna> > > > > > lord tries to> > > > > > impart positive results for 7th as it is in> > > > > > conjunction with 7th> > > > > > lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being together> > > > > > shows the native> > > > > > and his partner trying to stick together> > > > > > irrespective of the> > > > > > differences.> > > > > > These are the reasons I can find with my minimal> > > > > > knowledge. If I am> > > > > > wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I> > > > > > think this> > > > > > person's married life is as good as separated.> > > > > >> > > > > > For my learning, can you please let me know the> > > > > > personlity of this> > > > > > person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily> > > > > > depressed? Also> > > > > > was he always in his native place or did he go> > > > > > abroad any time? Does> > > > > > he have any serious health problems?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Jyothi> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ,> > > > > > ramesh mishra> > > > > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Jyothi, Ash and all,> > > > > > > I give you one chart of a male native who is> > > > > > closely related to> > > > > > me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and 2nd> > > > > > lord occupy 12th> > > > > > house.> > > > > > > According to the verdict of Jyothi he should> > > > > > have divorced his> > > > > > spouse> > > > > > > because of 7th lord in 12th.> > > > > > > In fact it is not so. They married 38 years> > > > > > before and still> > > > > > living together.No doubt there married life is hell> > > > > > but staying> > > > > > together.> > > > > > > Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he> > > > > > was not> > > > > > divorced ?> > > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > > > INDIA.> > > > > > > He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters.> > > > > > > He served in defence forces in IAF and took> > > > > > volunteerly> > > > > > retirement after doing service in armed forces.> > > > > > > Again after two years of retirement he got a job> > > > > > in central> > > > > > government.> > > > > > > Between this period of two years, he was not> > > > > > jobless.He has been> > > > > > doing job in a private co.> > > > > > > If she can analyse it will be good learning for> > > > > > us.> > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > Ash kas@ wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Jyothi,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Here 2 laws of KAS are matching.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt.> > > > > > > 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and> > > > > > aspecting 7th> > > > > > house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa.> > > > > > > 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8> > > > > > points, and such> > > > > > marriages will break in highest power planet so> > > > > > dasha of Saturn when> > > > > > it came it will break the marriage.> > > > > > > 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3> > > > > > zeroes in SAV.> > > > > > Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn,> > > > > > will stick to> > > > > > her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so> > > > > > difference is much> > > > > > more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons,> > > > > > ego are very> > > > > > fragile.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of> > > > > > Ju and breaks in> > > > > > Ju. As per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws> > > > > > of KAS i.e.> > > > > > Marriage in lowest power planet will break in> > > > > > Highest power planet of> > > > > > 6th or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is> > > > > > very powerful,> > > > > > being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E> > > > > > along with Karak> > > > > > i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the chart.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Marriage in 6th lord's antra which is only 8> > > > > > points in 7th house> > > > > > and breaks in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th> > > > > > house> > > > > === message truncated ===> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Go to> > > > http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway. 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Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Dear Roshan, 10th house is Karak for 3rd house i.e. the house of your efforts and parakram. The maharishis have asked us to check this from all 3 i.e. Sun, Moon and Lagna. So take 10th lord from lagna, sun and moon and the planets there in and check where they are in navamsa. Those lords where they are will give the line of career or the inclination. Bring those planets back into Rasi and then u can find the connection back into the physical realm. You can use this and check as many charts as possible. In todays day and age, there are so many professions, so one also must check other factors like, intelligence, memory, skill level, so you might have to apply yourself here. You also have to judge the capacity of the native, his nature, i.e. say if a person is business minded or might perform better on their own or in a business. The level of rise the person might rise to, is the person hard worker or a lazy bum, the capacity to hold authority etc. There are so many factors involved. However, the place where the person will best perform, will be denoted by 10th lords and planets there in from Lagna, Sun and Moon and where they are placed in Navamsa the lord of that. They are Samdharmi. For example if Venus is placed in 1st 3deg20 in Capricorn and Aries is lagna in Rasi, then Saturn will become one of the career giving planet or profession giving planet. If this Saturn is placed back in 10th house in 5th house in Leo then it will be related to 5th house matters. If 10th from Moon is in navamsa of Guru and Guru too is in 5th house in Rasi then such might indicate a professor or a consultant or some advisory role in public management or Human Resources ofcourse depending on his intelligence or he might be a supervisor of a garbage disposal or something like that, that depeneds on so many things like intelligence, education etc. So all such things have to be studied in my opinion and then applied w.r.t desh kaal and paatra. There is a lesson on Occupation that you can refer to and this is based on the system of KAS which I follow. You can visit the lesson at the following site and download and read lesson 21 – Vyavasaya Jataka (Occupation). http://krushna.sageasita.com/Lesson%20Page.htm Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of rossin ucile Wednesday December 26, 2007 3:52 PM To: Subject: RE:Reason Job of the native Dear Ash, With reference to ongoing discussion could I post the details of a chart, one I have observed has a gamut of transitions and even after many a breaks, the native managed high education. DOB: June 19, 1977 TOB: 18:57 POB: Ratlam, M.P. Sex: Male Thanks and regards Roshan ________ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Dear Durga ji, Thanks for participating in the discussion. I humbly request you to be more active in the group - so that we may get a better learning/interaction experience. I feel like totally agreeing with you - since Mercury in 2nd combined with the Sun in lagna (in Dasa-Antara) seems to indicate an apt combination for a - * head teacher - head of department? headmaster? own school/collage? * Banking/Insurance - Private bank? Administrative/Managerial post? But the 3rd major choice comes to mind is - * Why don't a powerful adviser/politician or with Sun in lagna, Saturn in 6th, Mercury with Mars in 2nd, and Me-Ju navamsa in 7th ? (I know that you won't appreciate the non-systematic logic applied) Any way it seems that the major carrier of the native started late in life in his Middle Thirties. Let us all wait till Krishan ji reveals the truth - confirming or negating our reading. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "durga050" <durga050 wrote: Namastae Krishnaji, In my assessment , he is either in teaching /Banking (Insurance) profession Durga > , Krishnamurthy> Seetharama krishna_1998@ wrote:> >> > Dear All,> >> > A good discussion is going on on Profession. I would like to present a> chart and ask if anyone can come up with the profession of the following> native:> >> > Sex: Male> > DOB: Aug 26, 1963> > TOB: 7:05 am> > POB: Bangalore> >> > I don't need any reading on this chart, hence this is not a chart> reading request. I know this person for about 20 years. I know the birth> details of are pretty accurate. His father was interested in astrology> and hence has made a careful record of his son's birth time. I want> members to just come up with the pssoible profession of this native.> >> > Regards,> > Krishna> >> > Ash kas@ wrote:> > Dear Chakraborty,> >> > 10th lord from Lagna is Venus and Venus is in navamsa of Jupiter> > Planets in 10th house are Venus and Venus is again in navamsa of Ju> > Ma is in 10th house and it is in navamsa of Mars> > Ra is in navamsa of Sa.> >> >> > 10th lord from Moon is Mars and Mars is in navamsa of Sco so ruled by> Mars> >> > 10th lord from Sun is Gemini ruled by Mercury and Mercury is in> navamsa of Saturn.> >> > So career giving planets are Ma, Sa, Ju, Ju.> >> > You also have Venus who is with 3 bindus in 10th house so again it> shows good skills in management with more of artistic touch.> >> > Now, Bring these planets back into Rasi.> >> > Ma is in 10th house so house of authority and its in sign of Libra> > Sa is in 7th house and its in watery sign of Cancer> > Jupiter is in 5th house in the fixed sign of Taurus.> >> > So this can show Metallurgical Engineering related to Mo and Ve (so> can be petroleum or some liquids) and also Management or advisory role> ? Ju or consulting.> >> > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> >> >> > > >> > > On Behalf Of> Chakraborty, PL> > Tuesday December 25, 2007 11:26 PM> > ' '> > RE: Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of> the native> >> >> > Dear Sreenadh-ji,> >> > Following are the details.> >> >> >> > DOB : October 6, 1976> >> > TOB : 13:30 hrs (+/- 5 min)> >> > Kolkata, 88 E 22, 22N34,> >> > And he insists that 10H has Ma+Ve+Ra in> >> > his original Kundli at home.> >> >> >> > He is a Metallurgical engr, worked for 1.5 yrs in> >> > Hindustan Motors (ambassador car factory)> >> > and then IOCL (Sept 2000-07 Jul).> >> >> >> > Regards> >> >> >> > Chakraborty> >> > > > Sreenadh [sreesog@]> > Wednesday, December 26, 2007 9:33 AM> > > > Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the> native> > Dear Chakraborty ji,> > First thig first - provide the date of birth with time and location.> Let me see the chart and then I will reply.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > , "Chakraborty, PL"> CHAKRABORTYP2@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh,> > >> > > I am also going thru' your mail and learning things.> > >> > > One question, if you please.> > >> > > What happens when 10H from Lagna has 2 / 3 planets ?> > >> > > One of my Junior has Cp lagna and Ma, Ve and Rahu in 10H.> > > He is undergoing Mer-Ve-Mer (Vim. dasha). (Mercury exalted> > > with Sun in Virgo.). 10H lord Ve sits in Pisces in Navamsha.> > >> > > He left his job in Mer-Ven-sat and trying to get a job in Gulf.> > >> > > So, how do I apply the techniques here ?> > >> > > 10H L is venus.. not connected to his job (engineer).> > > Rahu and Mars may signify petroleum and engg.> > > But no connection to Sun (he was in a PSU).> > > 2H is moon (parivartana with sat in Cn).> > > 10H lord in pisces ...again does not signify engg.> > > 2H has Moon and 11H is empty.> > >> > > 'Looking forward to reply.> > >> > > Regards> > > Chakra> > >> > > > > > Sreenadh [sreesog@]> > > Monday, December 24, 2007 7:33 PM> > > > > > Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of> the> > > native> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Vinita ji,> > > Lol....! That won't work always.. Note that "it is one of the> > > methods" But still, when I say so, I should clarify some of the> other> > > possibilities as well.> > > 1) Income should be predicted based on the significance of the> planet> > > present in 10th House from Lagna, Moon, or Sun. i.e. First check> whether> > > there is a planet in 10th from Lagna, if not check whether there is> a planet> > > in 10th from Moon, if not check whether there is a planet in 10th> from Sun.> > > The said planet will provide income (job) based on its significance> at some> > > point of time for sure. (Yes, proper Dasa or Antara can be> considered)> > > 2) The benefic planets in 11-2-Lagna will provide income from> different> > > sources during their corresponding Dasa-Antara. Thus Job could be> related to> > > this as well in the corresponding periods.> > > 3) The Navamsa lord of the 10 HL can indicate the job. (But try> using it> > > only after seeing the possibilities indicated by the first two)> > > Note that in the said horoscope, the first choice was not applicable> due to> > > the absence of planets in 10th. Even the Ra in 10th was supposed to> give the> > > result fo Venus the 10th lord from Lagna and Moon (Lagna and Moon> was in> > > Leo). Thus I went for the Navamsa lord of the 10th House and that> was Mars -> > > clearly explaining why the job was as a government servant, that too> in> > > army. > > > Note: Do you see some lesson from the above note? > > > Love and regards,> > > Sreenadh> > >> > > , "vinita kumar"> > > shankar_mamta@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Shreenadh, i can only say WOW!!!> > > >> > > > tried to check this with the chart of another native who is a> govt.> > > > servant. The lagna is Taurus, so the 10th lord is Saturn. In> > > > Navamsa, Saturn is in the amsa of Saggi while Jupiter in natal> chart> > > > is conjoined with the Sun. Did i follow the steps correctly?> > > >> > > > , "Sreenadh"> > > > sreesog@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Remesh ji,> > > > > ==>> > > > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > > > > prediction.> > > > > <==> > > > > I totally agree with the above statement of yours. > > > > > ==>> > > > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > > > > servant ? I could not find it out till now?> > > > > <==> > > > > That is some thing cute, and because of that statement I got> > > > > interested in the said horoscope. I hope the following is the> > > > birth> > > > > details under discussion.> > > > > ==>> > > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > > > INDIA.> > > > > <==> > > > > One of the major method to determine the job of a native> > > > is "Karmesasya> > > > > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida" (Phaladeepika)> > > > meaning, "the> > > > > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa> lord> > > > of the> > > > > 10th house lord from Natal lagna"> > > > > In the said horoscope, Lagna is Leo, 10th house is Tarus (with> > > > Ra in> > > > > it), 10th lord is Ve. The navamsa of Ve falls in Scorpio and Ve> is> > > > > situated in Lagna Leo itself. Thus -> > > > > Karmesa = Ve> > > > > Karmesasya navamsa rasipa = lord of Scorpio = Ma.> > > > > Thus Mars is should signify the job of the native in the said> > > > > horoscope. With the 10th lord Ve in Leo (lord of Leo Sun is the> > > > > significator of Government) and also with Mars as the> significator> > > > of> > > > > the job it no wonder that the native "is a govt, servant and> that> > > > to0 in> > > > > armed forces".> > > > > Hope the methodology and explanation is clear.> > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > Sreenadh> > > > >> > > > > , ramesh mishra> > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Jyothi Ji,> > > > > > Namaskar,> > > > > > I do appreciate your comments.> > > > > > I am not biased to any system.> > > > > > But ofcourse, I give priority no.1 to KAS.> > > > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > > > > prediction.> > > > > > I have experienced VA more complicated and confusing> > > > > > for timing any event.> > > > > > Now as for the chart, the native's married life is not> > > > > > ok and sometimes there is querrelling among them and> > > > > > the situation becomes so nasty both of them becomes> > > > > > ready to divorce but after few hours everything comes> > > > > > to normal and they live together happily for months> > > > > > together.> > > > > > Nobody knows when the happy situation will take turn.> > > > > > As far as I know native never faced depression.> > > > > > He never went abroad and no chances in future also> > > > > > because his financial condition is not so strong.> > > > > > He has been mostly visiting many places in India.> > > > > > He took birth in a small village but after 4 years of> > > > > > birth he never stayed in his birth place .> > > > > > As I have stated in my mail he is a govt,servant and> > > > > > that to in armed forces.> > > > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > > > > servant ?> > > > > > I could not find it out till now?> > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > >> > > > > > --- jyothi_b_lakshmi jyothi_b_lakshmi@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal> > > > > > > importance to 6th> > > > > > > lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing> > > > > > > divorce. I do not> > > > > > > know why you overlooked what I said about 6th lord> > > > > > > aspecting 7th and> > > > > > > tried to negate my reasoning by emphasising on 7th> > > > > > > lord in 12th. May> > > > > > > be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt> > > > > > > like putting down> > > > > > > what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying> > > > > > > reasoning by KAS> > > > > > > alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying> > > > > > > to integrate the> > > > > > > working points from all systems and trying to apply> > > > > > > them for my> > > > > > > learning. I am trying to pick up the best and> > > > > > > plausible clues from> > > > > > > all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying> > > > > > > to learn from> > > > > > > them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much.> > > > > > > Whatever methods> > > > > > > we follow, all must lead to the same results, that> > > > > > > is what astrology> > > > > > > must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody> > > > > > > can create their> > > > > > > own branches of this divine science and destroy it.> > > > > > > So please do not> > > > > > > try to crucify me at the first instance.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot> > > > > > > create an event. My> > > > > > > sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not> > > > > > > divorced,> > > > > > > (Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is> > > > > > > in 12th it need> > > > > > > not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a> > > > > > > friendly sign can> > > > > > > modify the effects, can be just separation, husband> > > > > > > staying away due> > > > > > > to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord> > > > > > > can modify the> > > > > > > effects. A lot of other factors need to be> > > > > > > considered. I am not a> > > > > > > pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings> > > > > > > from whatever I> > > > > > > have read so far. Anyways I do believe that position> > > > > > > of 7th lord in> > > > > > > 12th does negatively affect marital harmony. This> > > > > > > what I have> > > > > > > observed.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and> > > > > > > 12th lord Moon are> > > > > > > in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon> > > > > > > being in its own> > > > > > > sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th.> > > > > > > The negative> > > > > > > effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord> > > > > > > saturn with moon in> > > > > > > 12th, taking into account the opposite nature of> > > > > > > these planets, their> > > > > > > life can be very cold and indifferent without any> > > > > > > emotions towards> > > > > > > each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with> > > > > > > legal issues, court> > > > > > > cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce)> > > > > > > effects of saturn> > > > > > > is less when compared with 7th house effects because> > > > > > > 7th (Aquarius)> > > > > > > is the moola trikona of saturn. What I have> > > > > > > understood is if a planet> > > > > > > owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona, the result> > > > > > > of moola trikona> > > > > > > predominates. So again the chances of staying> > > > > > > together gains weight> > > > > > > than getting legally separated.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Viewing in another angle, without considering the> > > > > > > exchange efects,> > > > > > > let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna> > > > > > > lord. As per what I> > > > > > > know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive> > > > > > > results to the houses> > > > > > > he is associated with by means of position, aspect,> > > > > > > association with> > > > > > > lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna> > > > > > > lord tries to> > > > > > > impart positive results for 7th as it is in> > > > > > > conjunction with 7th> > > > > > > lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being together> > > > > > > shows the native> > > > > > > and his partner trying to stick together> > > > > > > irrespective of the> > > > > > > differences.> > > > > > > These are the reasons I can find with my minimal> > > > > > > knowledge. If I am> > > > > > > wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I> > > > > > > think this> > > > > > > person's married life is as good as separated.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > For my learning, can you please let me know the> > > > > > > personlity of this> > > > > > > person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily> > > > > > > depressed? Also> > > > > > > was he always in his native place or did he go> > > > > > > abroad any time? Does> > > > > > > he have any serious health problems?> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > Jyothi> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ,> > > > > > > ramesh mishra> > > > > > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Jyothi, Ash and all,> > > > > > > > I give you one chart of a male native who is> > > > > > > closely related to> > > > > > > me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and 2nd> > > > > > > lord occupy 12th> > > > > > > house.> > > > > > > > According to the verdict of Jyothi he should> > > > > > > have divorced his> > > > > > > spouse> > > > > > > > because of 7th lord in 12th.> > > > > > > > In fact it is not so. They married 38 years> > > > > > > before and still> > > > > > > living together.No doubt there married life is hell> > > > > > > but staying> > > > > > > together.> > > > > > > > Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he> > > > > > > was not> > > > > > > divorced ?> > > > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > > > > INDIA.> > > > > > > > He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters.> > > > > > > > He served in defence forces in IAF and took> > > > > > > volunteerly> > > > > > > retirement after doing service in armed forces.> > > > > > > > Again after two years of retirement he got a job> > > > > > > in central> > > > > > > government.> > > > > > > > Between this period of two years, he was not> > > > > > > jobless.He has been> > > > > > > doing job in a private co.> > > > > > > > If she can analyse it will be good learning for> > > > > > > us.> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > Ash kas@ wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Jyothi,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Here 2 laws of KAS are matching.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt.> > > > > > > > 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and> > > > > > > aspecting 7th> > > > > > > house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa.> > > > > > > > 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8> > > > > > > points, and such> > > > > > > marriages will break in highest power planet so> > > > > > > dasha of Saturn when> > > > > > > it came it will break the marriage.> > > > > > > > 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3> > > > > > > zeroes in SAV.> > > > > > > Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn,> > > > > > > will stick to> > > > > > > her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so> > > > > > > difference is much> > > > > > > more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons,> > > > > > > ego are very> > > > > > > fragile.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of> > > > > > > Ju and breaks in> > > > > > > Ju. As per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws> > > > > > > of KAS i.e.> > > > > > > Marriage in lowest power planet will break in> > > > > > > Highest power planet of> > > > > > > 6th or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is> > > > > > > very powerful,> > > > > > > being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E> > > > > > > along with Karak> > > > > > > i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the chart.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Marriage in 6th lord's antra which is only 8> > > > > > > points in 7th house> > > > > > > and breaks in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th> > > > > > > house> > > > > > === message truncated ===> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Dear durgaji,How do we derive things like teaching/banking (insurance) etc?Can you guide us by indicating in your learned analysis - which planet signifies which profession?Like:Mercury:...Venus:..Looks like it is Jupiter for IT jobsRegardskirandurga050 <durga050 wrote: Namastae Krishnaji, In my assessment , he is either in teaching /Banking (Insurance) profession Durga , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:>> Dear All,> > A good discussion is going on on Profession. I would like to present a chart and ask if anyone can come up with the profession of the following native:> > Sex: Male> DOB: Aug 26, 1963> TOB: 7:05 am> POB: Bangalore> > I don't need any reading on this chart, hence this is not a chart reading request. I know this person for about 20 years. I know the birth details of are pretty accurate. His father was interested in astrology and hence has made a careful record of his son's birth time. I want members to just come up with the pssoible profession of this native.> > Regards,> Krishna> > Ash kas wrote:> Dear Chakraborty,> > 10th lord from Lagna is Venus and Venus is in navamsa of Jupiter> Planets in 10th house are Venus and Venus is again in navamsa of Ju > Ma is in 10th house and it is in navamsa of Mars> Ra is in navamsa of Sa.> > > 10th lord from Moon is Mars and Mars is in navamsa of Sco so ruled by Mars> > 10th lord from Sun is Gemini ruled by Mercury and Mercury is in navamsa of Saturn.> > So career giving planets are Ma, Sa, Ju, Ju.> > You also have Venus who is with 3 bindus in 10th house so again it shows good skills in management with more of artistic touch.> > Now, Bring these planets back into Rasi.> > Ma is in 10th house so house of authority and its in sign of Libra> Sa is in 7th house and its in watery sign of Cancer> Jupiter is in 5th house in the fixed sign of Taurus.> > So this can show Metallurgical Engineering related to Mo and Ve (so can be petroleum or some liquids) and also Management or advisory role – Ju or consulting. > > Cheers !!!> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > On Behalf Of Chakraborty, PL> Tuesday December 25, 2007 11:26 PM> ' '> RE: Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the native> > > Dear Sreenadh-ji,> > Following are the details.> > > > DOB : October 6, 1976> > TOB : 13:30 hrs (+/- 5 min)> > Kolkata, 88 E 22, 22N34,> > And he insists that 10H has Ma+Ve+Ra in> > his original Kundli at home.> > > > He is a Metallurgical engr, worked for 1.5 yrs in > > Hindustan Motors (ambassador car factory) > > and then IOCL (Sept 2000-07 Jul).> > > > Regards> > > > Chakraborty> > > Sreenadh [sreesog]> Wednesday, December 26, 2007 9:33 AM> > Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the native> Dear Chakraborty ji,> First thig first - provide the date of birth with time and location. Let me see the chart and then I will reply.> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> , "Chakraborty, PL" CHAKRABORTYP2@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sreenadh,> > > > I am also going thru' your mail and learning things.> > > > One question, if you please.> > > > What happens when 10H from Lagna has 2 / 3 planets ?> > > > One of my Junior has Cp lagna and Ma, Ve and Rahu in 10H.> > He is undergoing Mer-Ve-Mer (Vim. dasha). (Mercury exalted> > with Sun in Virgo.). 10H lord Ve sits in Pisces in Navamsha.> > > > He left his job in Mer-Ven-sat and trying to get a job in Gulf.> > > > So, how do I apply the techniques here ?> > > > 10H L is venus.. not connected to his job (engineer).> > Rahu and Mars may signify petroleum and engg.> > But no connection to Sun (he was in a PSU).> > 2H is moon (parivartana with sat in Cn).> > 10H lord in pisces ...again does not signify engg.> > 2H has Moon and 11H is empty.> > > > 'Looking forward to reply.> > > > Regards> > Chakra> > > > > > Sreenadh [sreesog@]> > Monday, December 24, 2007 7:33 PM> > > > Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the> > native> > > > > > > > Dear Vinita ji,> > Lol....! That won't work always.. Note that "it is one of the> > methods" But still, when I say so, I should clarify some of the other> > possibilities as well. > > 1) Income should be predicted based on the significance of the planet> > present in 10th House from Lagna, Moon, or Sun. i.e. First check whether> > there is a planet in 10th from Lagna, if not check whether there is a planet> > in 10th from Moon, if not check whether there is a planet in 10th from Sun.> > The said planet will provide income (job) based on its significance at some> > point of time for sure. (Yes, proper Dasa or Antara can be considered)> > 2) The benefic planets in 11-2-Lagna will provide income from different> > sources during their corresponding Dasa-Antara. Thus Job could be related to> > this as well in the corresponding periods.> > 3) The Navamsa lord of the 10 HL can indicate the job. (But try using it> > only after seeing the possibilities indicated by the first two)> > Note that in the said horoscope, the first choice was not applicable due to> > the absence of planets in 10th. Even the Ra in 10th was supposed to give the> > result fo Venus the 10th lord from Lagna and Moon (Lagna and Moon was in> > Leo). Thus I went for the Navamsa lord of the 10th House and that was Mars -> > clearly explaining why the job was as a government servant, that too in> > army. > > Note: Do you see some lesson from the above note? > > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > , "vinita kumar"> > shankar_mamta@ wrote:> > >> > > Shreenadh, i can only say WOW!!!> > > > > > tried to check this with the chart of another native who is a govt. > > > servant. The lagna is Taurus, so the 10th lord is Saturn. In > > > Navamsa, Saturn is in the amsa of Saggi while Jupiter in natal chart > > > is conjoined with the Sun. Did i follow the steps correctly? > > > > > > , "Sreenadh" > > > sreesog@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Remesh ji,> > > > ==>> > > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > > > prediction.> > > > <==> > > > I totally agree with the above statement of yours. > > > > ==>> > > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > > > servant ? I could not find it out till now?> > > > <==> > > > That is some thing cute, and because of that statement I got> > > > interested in the said horoscope. I hope the following is the > > > birth> > > > details under discussion.> > > > ==>> > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > > INDIA.> > > > <==> > > > One of the major method to determine the job of a native > > > is "Karmesasya> > > > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida" (Phaladeepika) > > > meaning, "the > > > > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa lord > > > of the> > > > 10th house lord from Natal lagna"> > > > In the said horoscope, Lagna is Leo, 10th house is Tarus (with > > > Ra in> > > > it), 10th lord is Ve. The navamsa of Ve falls in Scorpio and Ve is> > > > situated in Lagna Leo itself. Thus -> > > > Karmesa = Ve> > > > Karmesasya navamsa rasipa = lord of Scorpio = Ma.> > > > Thus Mars is should signify the job of the native in the said> > > > horoscope. With the 10th lord Ve in Leo (lord of Leo Sun is the> > > > significator of Government) and also with Mars as the significator > > > of> > > > the job it no wonder that the native "is a govt, servant and that > > > to0 in> > > > armed forces".> > > > Hope the methodology and explanation is clear.> > > > Love and regards,> > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > , ramesh mishra> > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Jyothi Ji,> > > > > Namaskar,> > > > > I do appreciate your comments.> > > > > I am not biased to any system.> > > > > But ofcourse, I give priority no.1 to KAS.> > > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > > > prediction.> > > > > I have experienced VA more complicated and confusing> > > > > for timing any event.> > > > > Now as for the chart, the native's married life is not> > > > > ok and sometimes there is querrelling among them and> > > > > the situation becomes so nasty both of them becomes> > > > > ready to divorce but after few hours everything comes> > > > > to normal and they live together happily for months> > > > > together.> > > > > Nobody knows when the happy situation will take turn.> > > > > As far as I know native never faced depression.> > > > > He never went abroad and no chances in future also> > > > > because his financial condition is not so strong.> > > > > He has been mostly visiting many places in India.> > > > > He took birth in a small village but after 4 years of> > > > > birth he never stayed in his birth place .> > > > > As I have stated in my mail he is a govt,servant and> > > > > that to in armed forces.> > > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > > > servant ?> > > > > I could not find it out till now?> > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > >> > > > > --- jyothi_b_lakshmi jyothi_b_lakshmi@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > > >> > > > > > When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal> > > > > > importance to 6th> > > > > > lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing> > > > > > divorce. I do not> > > > > > know why you overlooked what I said about 6th lord> > > > > > aspecting 7th and> > > > > > tried to negate my reasoning by emphasising on 7th> > > > > > lord in 12th. May> > > > > > be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt> > > > > > like putting down> > > > > > what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying> > > > > > reasoning by KAS> > > > > > alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying> > > > > > to integrate the> > > > > > working points from all systems and trying to apply> > > > > > them for my> > > > > > learning. I am trying to pick up the best and> > > > > > plausible clues from> > > > > > all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying> > > > > > to learn from> > > > > > them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much.> > > > > > Whatever methods> > > > > > we follow, all must lead to the same results, that> > > > > > is what astrology> > > > > > must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody> > > > > > can create their> > > > > > own branches of this divine science and destroy it.> > > > > > So please do not> > > > > > try to crucify me at the first instance.> > > > > >> > > > > > Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot> > > > > > create an event. My> > > > > > sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not> > > > > > divorced,> > > > > > (Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is> > > > > > in 12th it need> > > > > > not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a> > > > > > friendly sign can> > > > > > modify the effects, can be just separation, husband> > > > > > staying away due> > > > > > to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord> > > > > > can modify the> > > > > > effects. A lot of other factors need to be> > > > > > considered. I am not a> > > > > > pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings> > > > > > from whatever I> > > > > > have read so far. Anyways I do believe that position> > > > > > of 7th lord in> > > > > > 12th does negatively affect marital harmony. This> > > > > > what I have> > > > > > observed.> > > > > >> > > > > > Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and> > > > > > 12th lord Moon are> > > > > > in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon> > > > > > being in its own> > > > > > sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th.> > > > > > The negative> > > > > > effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord> > > > > > saturn with moon in> > > > > > 12th, taking into account the opposite nature of> > > > > > these planets, their> > > > > > life can be very cold and indifferent without any> > > > > > emotions towards> > > > > > each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with> > > > > > legal issues, court> > > > > > cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce)> > > > > > effects of saturn> > > > > > is less when compared with 7th house effects because> > > > > > 7th (Aquarius)> > > > > > is the moola trikona of saturn. What I have> > > > > > understood is if a planet> > > > > > owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona, the result> > > > > > of moola trikona> > > > > > predominates. So again the chances of staying> > > > > > together gains weight> > > > > > than getting legally separated.> > > > > >> > > > > > Viewing in another angle, without considering the> > > > > > exchange efects,> > > > > > let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna> > > > > > lord. As per what I> > > > > > know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive> > > > > > results to the houses> > > > > > he is associated with by means of position, aspect,> > > > > > association with> > > > > > lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna> > > > > > lord tries to> > > > > > impart positive results for 7th as it is in> > > > > > conjunction with 7th> > > > > > lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being together> > > > > > shows the native> > > > > > and his partner trying to stick together> > > > > > irrespective of the> > > > > > differences.> > > > > > These are the reasons I can find with my minimal> > > > > > knowledge. If I am> > > > > > wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I> > > > > > think this> > > > > > person's married life is as good as separated.> > > > > >> > > > > > For my learning, can you please let me know the> > > > > > personlity of this> > > > > > person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily> > > > > > depressed? Also> > > > > > was he always in his native place or did he go> > > > > > abroad any time? Does> > > > > > he have any serious health problems?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Jyothi> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ,> > > > > > ramesh mishra> > > > > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Jyothi, Ash and all,> > > > > > > I give you one chart of a male native who is> > > > > > closely related to> > > > > > me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and 2nd> > > > > > lord occupy 12th> > > > > > house.> > > > > > > According to the verdict of Jyothi he should> > > > > > have divorced his> > > > > > spouse> > > > > > > because of 7th lord in 12th.> > > > > > > In fact it is not so. They married 38 years> > > > > > before and still> > > > > > living together.No doubt there married life is hell> > > > > > but staying> > > > > > together.> > > > > > > Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he> > > > > > was not> > > > > > divorced ?> > > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > > > INDIA.> > > > > > > He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters.> > > > > > > He served in defence forces in IAF and took> > > > > > volunteerly> > > > > > retirement after doing service in armed forces.> > > > > > > Again after two years of retirement he got a job> > > > > > in central> > > > > > government.> > > > > > > Between this period of two years, he was not> > > > > > jobless.He has been> > > > > > doing job in a private co.> > > > > > > If she can analyse it will be good learning for> > > > > > us.> > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > Ash kas@ wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Jyothi,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Here 2 laws of KAS are matching.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt.> > > > > > > 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and> > > > > > aspecting 7th> > > > > > house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa.> > > > > > > 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8> > > > > > points, and such> > > > > > marriages will break in highest power planet so> > > > > > dasha of Saturn when> > > > > > it came it will break the marriage.> > > > > > > 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3> > > > > > zeroes in SAV.> > > > > > Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn,> > > > > > will stick to> > > > > > her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so> > > > > > difference is much> > > > > > more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons,> > > > > > ego are very> > > > > > fragile.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of> > > > > > Ju and breaks in> > > > > > Ju. As per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws> > > > > > of KAS i.e.> > > > > > Marriage in lowest power planet will break in> > > > > > Highest power planet of> > > > > > 6th or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is> > > > > > very powerful,> > > > > > being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E> > > > > > along with Karak> > > > > > i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the chart.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Marriage in 6th lord's antra which is only 8> > > > > > points in 7th house> > > > > > and breaks in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th> > > > > > house> > > > > === message truncated ===> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Go to> > > > http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway. 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Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Sex: Male > DOB: Aug 26, 1963 > TOB: 7:05 am > POB: Bangalore dear members, the native has 10th lord venus in lagna and lagna lord sun is also in lagna in the natal chart.mercury is exalted in the 2nd. jupiter is aspecting the lagna and 10th lord. do the native will be heading a public institution concerning education it can be a management or law. good luck, k.gopu ______________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Respected gurujis, Can u pl make some light on the profession according to the below mention data.Actually in my opinion the profession should be in teaching,computer,Iron/hardware related line etc,because of the in 10th house Rahu(electronics related) is placed & 10th lord is saturn ( Iron/hardware related) & since mercury(IT related) is in exclted with jupiter & sun,he may in teaching line as well. I am only the beginer,hence any wrong calculation may pleased be excused. 1.Taurus lagna 2.2nd house- empty 3.3rd house- empty 4.4th-Venus,ketu & moon in leo. 5.5th-Mercury,Jupiter & sun in virgo 6.6th house- empty 7.7th house-empty 8.8th-Mars is in sagitarius 9.9th house-empty 10.10th -Rahu in aquarus 11.11th - empty 12.12th-Saturn in aries. DOB-7th Oct 1969 POB-Sambalpur,Orissa TOB-08.04 PM regards manoj Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear Durga ji, Thanks for participating in the discussion. I humbly request you to be more active in the group - so that we may get a better learning/interaction experience. I feel like totally agreeing with you - since Mercury in 2nd combined with the Sun in lagna (in Dasa-Antara) seems to indicate an apt combination for a - * head teacher - head of department? headmaster? own school/collage? * Banking/Insurance - Private bank? Administrative/Managerial post? But the 3rd major choice comes to mind is - * Why don't a powerful adviser/politician or with Sun in lagna, Saturn in 6th, Mercury with Mars in 2nd, and Me-Ju navamsa in 7th ? (I know that you won't appreciate the non-systematic logic applied) Any way it seems that the major carrier of the native started late in life in his Middle Thirties. Let us all wait till Krishan ji reveals the truth - confirming or negating our reading. Love and regards,Sreenadh--- In , "durga050" <durga050 wrote: Namastae Krishnaji, In my assessment , he is either in teaching /Banking (Insurance) profession Durga > , Krishnamurthy> Seetharama krishna_1998@ wrote:> >> > Dear All,> >> > A good discussion is going on on Profession. I would like to present a> chart and ask if anyone can come up with the profession of the following> native:> >> > Sex: Male> > DOB: Aug 26, 1963> > TOB: 7:05 am> > POB: Bangalore> >> > I don't need any reading on this chart, hence this is not a chart> reading request. I know this person for about 20 years. I know the birth> details of are pretty accurate. His father was interested in astrology> and hence has made a careful record of his son's birth time. I want> members to just come up with the pssoible profession of this native.> >> > Regards,> > Krishna> >> > Ash kas@ wrote:> > Dear Chakraborty,> >> > 10th lord from Lagna is Venus and Venus is in navamsa of Jupiter> > Planets in 10th house are Venus and Venus is again in navamsa of Ju> > Ma is in 10th house and it is in navamsa of Mars> > Ra is in navamsa of Sa.> >> >> > 10th lord from Moon is Mars and Mars is in navamsa of Sco so ruled by> Mars> >> > 10th lord from Sun is Gemini ruled by Mercury and Mercury is in> navamsa of Saturn.> >> > So career giving planets are Ma, Sa, Ju, Ju.> >> > You also have Venus who is with 3 bindus in 10th house so again it> shows good skills in management with more of artistic touch.> >> > Now, Bring these planets back into Rasi.> >> > Ma is in 10th house so house of authority and its in sign of Libra> > Sa is in 7th house and its in watery sign of Cancer> > Jupiter is in 5th house in the fixed sign of Taurus.> >> > So this can show Metallurgical Engineering related to Mo and Ve (so> can be petroleum or some liquids) and also Management or advisory role> ? Ju or consulting.> >> > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> >> >> > > >> > > On Behalf Of> Chakraborty, PL> > Tuesday December 25, 2007 11:26 PM> > ' '> > RE: Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of> the native> >> >> > Dear Sreenadh-ji,> >> > Following are the details.> >> >> >> > DOB : October 6, 1976> >> > TOB : 13:30 hrs (+/- 5 min)> >> > Kolkata, 88 E 22, 22N34,> >> > And he insists that 10H has Ma+Ve+Ra in> >> > his original Kundli at home.> >> >> >> > He is a Metallurgical engr, worked for 1.5 yrs in> >> > Hindustan Motors (ambassador car factory)> >> > and then IOCL (Sept 2000-07 Jul).> >> >> >> > Regards> >> >> >> > Chakraborty> >> > > > Sreenadh [sreesog@]> > Wednesday, December 26, 2007 9:33 AM> > > > Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the> native> > Dear Chakraborty ji,> > First thig first - provide the date of birth with time and location.> Let me see the chart and then I will reply.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > , "Chakraborty, PL"> CHAKRABORTYP2@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh,> > >> > > I am also going thru' your mail and learning things.> > >> > > One question, if you please.> > >> > > What happens when 10H from Lagna has 2 / 3 planets ?> > >> > > One of my Junior has Cp lagna and Ma, Ve and Rahu in 10H.> > > He is undergoing Mer-Ve-Mer (Vim. dasha). (Mercury exalted> > > with Sun in Virgo.). 10H lord Ve sits in Pisces in Navamsha.> > >> > > He left his job in Mer-Ven-sat and trying to get a job in Gulf.> > >> > > So, how do I apply the techniques here ?> > >> > > 10H L is venus.. not connected to his job (engineer).> > > Rahu and Mars may signify petroleum and engg.> > > But no connection to Sun (he was in a PSU).> > > 2H is moon (parivartana with sat in Cn).> > > 10H lord in pisces ...again does not signify engg.> > > 2H has Moon and 11H is empty.> > >> > > 'Looking forward to reply.> > >> > > Regards> > > Chakra> > >> > > > > > Sreenadh [sreesog@]> > > Monday, December 24, 2007 7:33 PM> > > > > > Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of> the> > > native> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Vinita ji,> > > Lol....! That won't work always.. Note that "it is one of the> > > methods" But still, when I say so, I should clarify some of the> other> > > possibilities as well.> > > 1) Income should be predicted based on the significance of the> planet> > > present in 10th House from Lagna, Moon, or Sun. i.e. First check> whether> > > there is a planet in 10th from Lagna, if not check whether there is> a planet> > > in 10th from Moon, if not check whether there is a planet in 10th> from Sun.> > > The said planet will provide income (job) based on its significance> at some> > > point of time for sure. (Yes, proper Dasa or Antara can be> considered)> > > 2) The benefic planets in 11-2-Lagna will provide income from> different> > > sources during their corresponding Dasa-Antara. Thus Job could be> related to> > > this as well in the corresponding periods.> > > 3) The Navamsa lord of the 10 HL can indicate the job. (But try> using it> > > only after seeing the possibilities indicated by the first two)> > > Note that in the said horoscope, the first choice was not applicable> due to> > > the absence of planets in 10th. Even the Ra in 10th was supposed to> give the> > > result fo Venus the 10th lord from Lagna and Moon (Lagna and Moon> was in> > > Leo). Thus I went for the Navamsa lord of the 10th House and that> was Mars -> > > clearly explaining why the job was as a government servant, that too> in> > > army. > > > Note: Do you see some lesson from the above note? > > > Love and regards,> > > Sreenadh> > >> > > , "vinita kumar"> > > shankar_mamta@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Shreenadh, i can only say WOW!!!> > > >> > > > tried to check this with the chart of another native who is a> govt.> > > > servant. The lagna is Taurus, so the 10th lord is Saturn. In> > > > Navamsa, Saturn is in the amsa of Saggi while Jupiter in natal> chart> > > > is conjoined with the Sun. Did i follow the steps correctly?> > > >> > > > , "Sreenadh"> > > > sreesog@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Remesh ji,> > > > > ==>> > > > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > > > > prediction.> > > > > <==> > > > > I totally agree with the above statement of yours. > > > > > ==>> > > > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > > > > servant ? I could not find it out till now?> > > > > <==> > > > > That is some thing cute, and because of that statement I got> > > > > interested in the said horoscope. I hope the following is the> > > > birth> > > > > details under discussion.> > > > > ==>> > > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > > > INDIA.> > > > > <==> > > > > One of the major method to determine the job of a native> > > > is "Karmesasya> > > > > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida" (Phaladeepika)> > > > meaning, "the> > > > > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa> lord> > > > of the> > > > > 10th house lord from Natal lagna"> > > > > In the said horoscope, Lagna is Leo, 10th house is Tarus (with> > > > Ra in> > > > > it), 10th lord is Ve. The navamsa of Ve falls in Scorpio and Ve> is> > > > > situated in Lagna Leo itself. Thus -> > > > > Karmesa = Ve> > > > > Karmesasya navamsa rasipa = lord of Scorpio = Ma.> > > > > Thus Mars is should signify the job of the native in the said> > > > > horoscope. With the 10th lord Ve in Leo (lord of Leo Sun is the> > > > > significator of Government) and also with Mars as the> significator> > > > of> > > > > the job it no wonder that the native "is a govt, servant and> that> > > > to0 in> > > > > armed forces".> > > > > Hope the methodology and explanation is clear.> > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > Sreenadh> > > > >> > > > > , ramesh mishra> > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Jyothi Ji,> > > > > > Namaskar,> > > > > > I do appreciate your comments.> > > > > > I am not biased to any system.> > > > > > But ofcourse, I give priority no.1 to KAS.> > > > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > > > > prediction.> > > > > > I have experienced VA more complicated and confusing> > > > > > for timing any event.> > > > > > Now as for the chart, the native's married life is not> > > > > > ok and sometimes there is querrelling among them and> > > > > > the situation becomes so nasty both of them becomes> > > > > > ready to divorce but after few hours everything comes> > > > > > to normal and they live together happily for months> > > > > > together.> > > > > > Nobody knows when the happy situation will take turn.> > > > > > As far as I know native never faced depression.> > > > > > He never went abroad and no chances in future also> > > > > > because his financial condition is not so strong.> > > > > > He has been mostly visiting many places in India.> > > > > > He took birth in a small village but after 4 years of> > > > > > birth he never stayed in his birth place .> > > > > > As I have stated in my mail he is a govt,servant and> > > > > > that to in armed forces.> > > > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > > > > servant ?> > > > > > I could not find it out till now?> > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > >> > > > > > --- jyothi_b_lakshmi jyothi_b_lakshmi@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal> > > > > > > importance to 6th> > > > > > > lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing> > > > > > > divorce. I do not> > > > > > > know why you overlooked what I said about 6th lord> > > > > > > aspecting 7th and> > > > > > > tried to negate my reasoning by emphasising on 7th> > > > > > > lord in 12th. May> > > > > > > be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt> > > > > > > like putting down> > > > > > > what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying> > > > > > > reasoning by KAS> > > > > > > alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying> > > > > > > to integrate the> > > > > > > working points from all systems and trying to apply> > > > > > > them for my> > > > > > > learning. I am trying to pick up the best and> > > > > > > plausible clues from> > > > > > > all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying> > > > > > > to learn from> > > > > > > them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much.> > > > > > > Whatever methods> > > > > > > we follow, all must lead to the same results, that> > > > > > > is what astrology> > > > > > > must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody> > > > > > > can create their> > > > > > > own branches of this divine science and destroy it.> > > > > > > So please do not> > > > > > > try to crucify me at the first instance.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot> > > > > > > create an event. My> > > > > > > sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not> > > > > > > divorced,> > > > > > > (Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is> > > > > > > in 12th it need> > > > > > > not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a> > > > > > > friendly sign can> > > > > > > modify the effects, can be just separation, husband> > > > > > > staying away due> > > > > > > to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord> > > > > > > can modify the> > > > > > > effects. A lot of other factors need to be> > > > > > > considered. I am not a> > > > > > > pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings> > > > > > > from whatever I> > > > > > > have read so far. Anyways I do believe that position> > > > > > > of 7th lord in> > > > > > > 12th does negatively affect marital harmony. This> > > > > > > what I have> > > > > > > observed.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and> > > > > > > 12th lord Moon are> > > > > > > in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon> > > > > > > being in its own> > > > > > > sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th.> > > > > > > The negative> > > > > > > effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord> > > > > > > saturn with moon in> > > > > > > 12th, taking into account the opposite nature of> > > > > > > these planets, their> > > > > > > life can be very cold and indifferent without any> > > > > > > emotions towards> > > > > > > each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with> > > > > > > legal issues, court> > > > > > > cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce)> > > > > > > effects of saturn> > > > > > > is less when compared with 7th house effects because> > > > > > > 7th (Aquarius)> > > > > > > is the moola trikona of saturn. What I have> > > > > > > understood is if a planet> > > > > > > owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona, the result> > > > > > > of moola trikona> > > > > > > predominates. So again the chances of staying> > > > > > > together gains weight> > > > > > > than getting legally separated.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Viewing in another angle, without considering the> > > > > > > exchange efects,> > > > > > > let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna> > > > > > > lord. As per what I> > > > > > > know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive> > > > > > > results to the houses> > > > > > > he is associated with by means of position, aspect,> > > > > > > association with> > > > > > > lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna> > > > > > > lord tries to> > > > > > > impart positive results for 7th as it is in> > > > > > > conjunction with 7th> > > > > > > lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being together> > > > > > > shows the native> > > > > > > and his partner trying to stick together> > > > > > > irrespective of the> > > > > > > differences.> > > > > > > These are the reasons I can find with my minimal> > > > > > > knowledge. If I am> > > > > > > wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I> > > > > > > think this> > > > > > > person's married life is as good as separated.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > For my learning, can you please let me know the> > > > > > > personlity of this> > > > > > > person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily> > > > > > > depressed? Also> > > > > > > was he always in his native place or did he go> > > > > > > abroad any time? Does> > > > > > > he have any serious health problems?> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > Jyothi> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ,> > > > > > > ramesh mishra> > > > > > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Jyothi, Ash and all,> > > > > > > > I give you one chart of a male native who is> > > > > > > closely related to> > > > > > > me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and 2nd> > > > > > > lord occupy 12th> > > > > > > house.> > > > > > > > According to the verdict of Jyothi he should> > > > > > > have divorced his> > > > > > > spouse> > > > > > > > because of 7th lord in 12th.> > > > > > > > In fact it is not so. They married 38 years> > > > > > > before and still> > > > > > > living together.No doubt there married life is hell> > > > > > > but staying> > > > > > > together.> > > > > > > > Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he> > > > > > > was not> > > > > > > divorced ?> > > > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > > > > INDIA.> > > > > > > > He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters.> > > > > > > > He served in defence forces in IAF and took> > > > > > > volunteerly> > > > > > > retirement after doing service in armed forces.> > > > > > > > Again after two years of retirement he got a job> > > > > > > in central> > > > > > > government.> > > > > > > > Between this period of two years, he was not> > > > > > > jobless.He has been> > > > > > > doing job in a private co.> > > > > > > > If she can analyse it will be good learning for> > > > > > > us.> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > Ash kas@ wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Jyothi,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Here 2 laws of KAS are matching.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt.> > > > > > > > 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and> > > > > > > aspecting 7th> > > > > > > house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa.> > > > > > > > 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8> > > > > > > points, and such> > > > > > > marriages will break in highest power planet so> > > > > > > dasha of Saturn when> > > > > > > it came it will break the marriage.> > > > > > > > 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3> > > > > > > zeroes in SAV.> > > > > > > Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn,> > > > > > > will stick to> > > > > > > her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so> > > > > > > difference is much> > > > > > > more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons,> > > > > > > ego are very> > > > > > > fragile.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of> > > > > > > Ju and breaks in> > > > > > > Ju. As per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws> > > > > > > of KAS i.e.> > > > > > > Marriage in lowest power planet will break in> > > > > > > Highest power planet of> > > > > > > 6th or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is> > > > > > > very powerful,> > > > > > > being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E> > > > > > > along with Karak> > > > > > > i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the chart.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Marriage in 6th lord's antra which is only 8> > > > > > > points in 7th house> > > > > > > and breaks in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th> > > > > > > house> > > > > > === message truncated ===> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Dear ashji,Went thru some lessons in ur site and looks like you have turned ancient astrology upside down with your own manufactured theories.example:you state that from your experience you found that aspect of benefic planet is always malefic and vice-versa.Which classics did you refer to learn all this?RegardskiranAsh <kas wrote: Dear Roshan, 10th house is Karak for 3rd house i.e. the house of your efforts and parakram. The maharishis have asked us to check this from all 3 i.e. Sun, Moon and Lagna. So take 10th lord from lagna, sun and moon and the planets there in and check where they are in navamsa. Those lords where they are will give the line of career or the inclination. Bring those planets back into Rasi and then u can find the connection back into the physical realm. You can use this and check as many charts as possible. In todays day and age, there are so many professions, so one also must check other factors like, intelligence, memory, skill level, so you might have to apply yourself here. You also have to judge the capacity of the native, his nature, i.e. say if a person is business minded or might perform better on their own or in a business. The level of rise the person might rise to, is the person hard worker or a lazy bum, the capacity to hold authority etc. There are so many factors involved. However, the place where the person will best perform, will be denoted by 10th lords and planets there in from Lagna, Sun and Moon and where they are placed in Navamsa the lord of that. They are Samdharmi. For example if Venus is placed in 1st 3deg20 in Capricorn and Aries is lagna in Rasi, then Saturn will become one of the career giving planet or profession giving planet. If this Saturn is placed back in 10th house in 5th house in Leo then it will be related to 5th house matters. If 10th from Moon is in navamsa of Guru and Guru too is in 5th house in Rasi then such might indicate a professor or a consultant or some advisory role in public management or Human Resources ofcourse depending on his intelligence or he might be a supervisor of a garbage disposal or something like that, that depeneds on so many things like intelligence, education etc. So all such things have to be studied in my opinion and then applied w.r.t desh kaal and paatra. There is a lesson on Occupation that you can refer to and this is based on the system of KAS which I follow. You can visit the lesson at the following site and download and read lesson 21 – Vyavasaya Jataka (Occupation). http://krushna.sageasita.com/Lesson%20Page.htm Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of rossin ucile Wednesday December 26, 2007 3:52 PM RE:Reason Job of the native Dear Ash, With reference to ongoing discussion could I post the details of a chart, one I have observed has a gamut of transitions and even after many a breaks, the native managed high education. DOB: June 19, 1977 TOB: 18:57 POB: Ratlam, M.P. Sex: Male Thanks and regards Roshan ________ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Dear Kiran, Then by what you say, in Prabhu Ram’s charts, Ju in unccha and with more than 4 bindus in lagna, should then have protected his father instead of his father dying when he went to vanvas, 5th sight of Ju on 9th house, Sita should have been with him instead of departing from him, the 7th sight of Ju on 7th house and 9th aspect of Ju should have protected his kids but the facts are different. I wonder which classics have said that? The sign of exaltation is opposite that of debilitation, I think all classics say that. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Kiran R Thursday December 27, 2007 1:31 PM RE: RE:Reason Job of the native Dear ashji, Went thru some lessons in ur site and looks like you have turned ancient astrology upside down with your own manufactured theories. example:you state that from your experience you found that aspect of benefic planet is always malefic and vice-versa. Which classics did you refer to learn all this? Regards kiran Ash <kas wrote: Dear Roshan, 10th house is Karak for 3rd house i.e. the house of your efforts and parakram. The maharishis have asked us to check this from all 3 i.e. Sun, Moon and Lagna. So take 10th lord from lagna, sun and moon and the planets there in and check where they are in navamsa. Those lords where they are will give the line of career or the inclination. Bring those planets back into Rasi and then u can find the connection back into the physical realm. You can use this and check as many charts as possible. In todays day and age, there are so many professions, so one also must check other factors like, intelligence, memory, skill level, so you might have to apply yourself here. You also have to judge the capacity of the native, his nature, i.e. say if a person is business minded or might perform better on their own or in a business. The level of rise the person might rise to, is the person hard worker or a lazy bum, the capacity to hold authority etc. There are so many factors involved. However, the place where the person will best perform, will be denoted by 10th lords and planets there in from Lagna, Sun and Moon and where they are placed in Navamsa the lord of that. They are Samdharmi. For example if Venus is placed in 1st 3deg20 in Capricorn and Aries is lagna in Rasi, then Saturn will become one of the career giving planet or profession giving planet. If this Saturn is placed back in 10th house in 5th house in Leo then it will be related to 5th house matters. If 10th from Moon is in navamsa of Guru and Guru too is in 5th house in Rasi then such might indicate a professor or a consultant or some advisory role in public management or Human Resources ofcourse depending on his intelligence or he might be a supervisor of a garbage disposal or something like that, that depeneds on so many things like intelligence, education etc. So all such things have to be studied in my opinion and then applied w.r.t desh kaal and paatra. There is a lesson on Occupation that you can refer to and this is based on the system of KAS which I follow. You can visit the lesson at the following site and download and read lesson 21 – Vyavasaya Jataka (Occupation). http://krushna.sageasita.com/Lesson%20Page.htm Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of rossin ucile Wednesday December 26, 2007 3:52 PM RE:Reason Job of the native Dear Ash, With reference to ongoing discussion could I post the details of a chart, one I have observed has a gamut of transitions and even after many a breaks, the native managed high education. DOB: June 19, 1977 TOB: 18:57 POB: Ratlam, M.P. Sex: Male Thanks and regards Roshan ________ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Dear Karji, The chart under cosideration belongs to a very intelligent human being who has knowledge of more than what he has been educated. There is indirect debilitation of the Lagna lord Venus and presence of Ketu & Rahu signifies a change midcourse in education. Debilitated Saturn in 12th house, aspecting the 9th its own house can send the native to a foriegn land.. Its aspect on the 6th house (sign of exalation) can lead to tendency to a job. The person may be employed in a field related to mettalic raw materials like ores, wastes and scrap in a slurry form ( semi solid). Also Rahu by itself may also signify media and telivision especially when aspected by Venus. In fact one astrologer had told me that Chandra- Ketu combination is seen in people with Aquatic business, and Chandra- Rahu is seen in those who have Sand dredging business. 2nd house and 5th house combination is very good for people handling money ( stock markets, bankers etc ) but that is not connected with his 10th house so it may be signifying his talent only. --- On Thu, 27/12/07, MANOJ KAR <manoj_kar7 wrote: MANOJ KAR <manoj_kar7Re: Re: RE:Reason Job of the native Date: Thursday, 27 December, 2007, 10:33 PM Respected gurujis, Can u pl make some light on the profession according to the below mention data.Actually in my opinion the profession should be in teaching,computer, Iron/hardware related line etc,because of the in 10th house Rahu(electronics related) is placed & 10th lord is saturn ( Iron/hardware related) & since mercury(IT related) is in exclted with jupiter & sun,he may in teaching line as well. I am only the beginer,hence any wrong calculation may pleased be excused. 1.Taurus lagna 2.2nd house- empty 3.3rd house- empty 4.4th-Venus, ketu & moon in leo. 5.5th-Mercury, Jupiter & sun in virgo 6.6th house- empty 7.7th house-empty 8.8th-Mars is in sagitarius 9.9th house-empty 10.10th -Rahu in aquarus 11.11th - empty 12.12th-Saturn in aries. DOB-7th Oct 1969 POB-Sambalpur, Orissa TOB-08.04 PM regards manoj Sreenadh <sreesog > wrote: Dear Durga ji, Thanks for participating in the discussion. I humbly request you to be more active in the group - so that we may get a better learning/interactio n experience. I feel like totally agreeing with you - since Mercury in 2nd combined with the Sun in lagna (in Dasa-Antara) seems to indicate an apt combination for a - * head teacher - head of department? headmaster? own school/collage? * Banking/Insurance - Private bank? Administrative/ Managerial post? But the 3rd major choice comes to mind is - * Why don't a powerful adviser/politician or with Sun in lagna, Saturn in 6th, Mercury with Mars in 2nd, and Me-Ju navamsa in 7th ? (I know that you won't appreciate the non-systematic logic applied) Any way it seems that the major carrier of the native started late in life in his Middle Thirties. Let us all wait till Krishan ji reveals the truth - confirming or negating our reading. Love and regards,Sreenadhancient_indian_ astrology, "durga050" <durga050 wrote: Namastae Krishnaji, In my assessment , he is either in teaching /Banking (Insurance) profession Durga > ancient_indian_ astrology, Krishnamurthy> Seetharama krishna_1998@ wrote:> >> > Dear All,> >> > A good discussion is going on on Profession. I would like to present a> chart and ask if anyone can come up with the profession of the following> native:> >> > Sex: Male> > DOB: Aug 26, 1963> > TOB: 7:05 am> > POB: Bangalore> >> > I don't need any reading on this chart, hence this is not a chart> reading request. I know this person for about 20 years. I know the birth> details of are pretty accurate. His father was interested in astrology> and hence has made a careful record of his son's birth time. I want> members to just come up with the pssoible profession of this native.> >> > Regards,> > Krishna> >> > Ash kas@ wrote:> > Dear Chakraborty,> >> > 10th lord from Lagna is Venus and Venus is in navamsa of Jupiter> > Planets in 10th house are Venus and Venus is again in navamsa of Ju> > Ma is in 10th house and it is in navamsa of Mars> > Ra is in navamsa of Sa.> >> >> > 10th lord from Moon is Mars and Mars is in navamsa of Sco so ruled by> Mars> >> > 10th lord from Sun is Gemini ruled by Mercury and Mercury is in> navamsa of Saturn.> >> > So career giving planets are Ma, Sa, Ju, Ju.> >> > You also have Venus who is with 3 bindus in 10th house so again it> shows good skills in management with more of artistic touch.> >> > Now, Bring these planets back into Rasi.> >> > Ma is in 10th house so house of authority and its in sign of Libra> > Sa is in 7th house and its in watery sign of Cancer> > Jupiter is in 5th house in the fixed sign of Taurus.> >> > So this can show Metallurgical Engineering related to Mo and Ve (so> can be petroleum or some liquids) and also Management or advisory role> ? Ju or consulting.> >> > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ---> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology> [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of> Chakraborty, PL> > Tuesday December 25, 2007 11:26 PM> > 'ancient_indian_ astrology'> > RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of> the native> >> >> > Dear Sreenadh-ji,> >> > Following are the details.> >> >> >> > DOB : October 6, 1976> >> > TOB : 13:30 hrs (+/- 5 min)> >> > Kolkata, 88 E 22, 22N34,> >> > And he insists that 10H has Ma+Ve+Ra in> >> > his original Kundli at home.> >> >> >> > He is a Metallurgical engr, worked for 1.5 yrs in> >> > Hindustan Motors (ambassador car factory)> >> > and then IOCL (Sept 2000-07 Jul).> >> >> >> > Regards> >> >> >> > Chakraborty> >> > > > Sreenadh [sreesog@ ]> > Wednesday, December 26, 2007 9:33 AM> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the> native> > Dear Chakraborty ji,> > First thig first - provide the date of birth with time and location.> Let me see the chart and then I will reply.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Chakraborty, PL"> CHAKRABORTYP2@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh,> > >> > > I am also going thru' your mail and learning things.> > >> > > One question, if you please.> > >> > > What happens when 10H from Lagna has 2 / 3 planets ?> > >> > > One of my Junior has Cp lagna and Ma, Ve and Rahu in 10H.> > > He is undergoing Mer-Ve-Mer (Vim. dasha). (Mercury exalted> > > with Sun in Virgo.). 10H lord Ve sits in Pisces in Navamsha.> > >> > > He left his job in Mer-Ven-sat and trying to get a job in Gulf.> > >> > > So, how do I apply the techniques here ?> > >> > > 10H L is venus.. not connected to his job (engineer).> > > Rahu and Mars may signify petroleum and engg.> > > But no connection to Sun (he was in a PSU).> > > 2H is moon (parivartana with sat in Cn).> > > 10H lord in pisces ...again does not signify engg.> > > 2H has Moon and 11H is empty.> > >> > > 'Looking forward to reply.> > >> > > Regards> > > Chakra> > >> > > > > > Sreenadh [sreesog@ ]> > > Monday, December 24, 2007 7:33 PM> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of> the> > > native> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Vinita ji,> > > Lol....! That won't work always.. Note that "it is one of the> > > methods" But still, when I say so, I should clarify some of the> other> > > possibilities as well.> > > 1) Income should be predicted based on the significance of the> planet> > > present in 10th House from Lagna, Moon, or Sun. i.e. First check> whether> > > there is a planet in 10th from Lagna, if not check whether there is> a planet> > > in 10th from Moon, if not check whether there is a planet in 10th> from Sun.> > > The said planet will provide income (job) based on its significance> at some> > > point of time for sure. (Yes, proper Dasa or Antara can be> considered)> > > 2) The benefic planets in 11-2-Lagna will provide income from> different> > > sources during their corresponding Dasa-Antara. Thus Job could be> related to> > > this as well in the corresponding periods.> > > 3) The Navamsa lord of the 10 HL can indicate the job. (But try> using it> > > only after seeing the possibilities indicated by the first two)> > > Note that in the said horoscope, the first choice was not applicable> due to> > > the absence of planets in 10th. Even the Ra in 10th was supposed to> give the> > > result fo Venus the 10th lord from Lagna and Moon (Lagna and Moon> was in> > > Leo).. Thus I went for the Navamsa lord of the 10th House and that> was Mars -> > > clearly explaining why the job was as a government servant, that too> in> > > army. > > > Note: Do you see some lesson from the above note? > > > Love and regards,> > > Sreenadh> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vinita kumar"> > > shankar_mamta@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Shreenadh, i can only say WOW!!!> > > >> > > > tried to check this with the chart of another native who is a> govt.> > > > servant. The lagna is Taurus, so the 10th lord is Saturn. In> > > > Navamsa, Saturn is in the amsa of Saggi while Jupiter in natal> chart> > > > is conjoined with the Sun. Did i follow the steps correctly?> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sreenadh"> > > > sreesog@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Remesh ji,> > > > > ==>> > > > > > Astrology,mainly, gains reputation on correct> > > > > > prediction.> > > > > <==> > > > > I totally agree with the above statement of yours. > > > > > ==>> > > > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > > > > servant ? I could not find it out till now?> > > > > <==> > > > > That is some thing cute, and because of that statement I got> > > > > interested in the said horoscope. I hope the following is the> > > > birth> > > > > details under discussion.> > > > > ==>> > > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > > > INDIA.> > > > > <==> > > > > One of the major method to determine the job of a native> > > > is "Karmesasya> > > > > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida" (Phaladeepika)> > > > meaning, "the> > > > > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa> lord> > > > of the> > > > > 10th house lord from Natal lagna"> > > > > In the said horoscope, Lagna is Leo, 10th house is Tarus (with> > > > Ra in> > > > > it), 10th lord is Ve. The navamsa of Ve falls in Scorpio and Ve> is> > > > > situated in Lagna Leo itself. Thus -> > > > > Karmesa = Ve> > > > > Karmesasya navamsa rasipa = lord of Scorpio = Ma.> > > > > Thus Mars is should signify the job of the native in the said> > > > > horoscope. With the 10th lord Ve in Leo (lord of Leo Sun is the> > > > > significator of Government) and also with Mars as the> significator> > > > of> > > > > the job it no wonder that the native "is a govt, servant and> that> > > > to0 in> > > > > armed forces".> > > > > Hope the methodology and explanation is clear.> > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > Sreenadh> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, ramesh mishra> > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Jyothi Ji,> > > > > > Namaskar,> > > > > > I do appreciate your comments.> > > > > > I am not biased to any system.> > > > > > But ofcourse, I give priority no.1 to KAS.> > > > > > Astrology,mainly, gains reputation on correct> > > > > > prediction.> > > > > > I have experienced VA more complicated and confusing> > > > > > for timing any event.> > > > > > Now as for the chart, the native's married life is not> > > > > > ok and sometimes there is querrelling among them and> > > > > > the situation becomes so nasty both of them becomes> > > > > > ready to divorce but after few hours everything comes> > > > > > to normal and they live together happily for months> > > > > > together.> > > > > > Nobody knows when the happy situation will take turn.> > > > > > As far as I know native never faced depression.> > > > > > He never went abroad and no chances in future also> > > > > > because his financial condition is not so strong.> > > > > > He has been mostly visiting many places in India.> > > > > > He took birth in a small village but after 4 years of> > > > > > birth he never stayed in his birth place .> > > > > > As I have stated in my mail he is a govt,servant and> > > > > > that to in armed forces.> > > > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > > > > servant ?> > > > > > I could not find it out till now?> > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > >> > > > > > --- jyothi_b_lakshmi jyothi_b_lakshmi@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal> > > > > > > importance to 6th> > > > > > > lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing> > > > > > > divorce. I do not> > > > > > > know why you overlooked what I said about 6th lord> > > > > > > aspecting 7th and> > > > > > > tried to negate my reasoning by emphasising on 7th> > > > > > > lord in 12th. May> > > > > > > be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt> > > > > > > like putting down> > > > > > > what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying> > > > > > > reasoning by KAS> > > > > > > alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying> > > > > > > to integrate the> > > > > > > working points from all systems and trying to apply> > > > > > > them for my> > > > > > > learning. I am trying to pick up the best and> > > > > > > plausible clues from> > > > > > > all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying> > > > > > > to learn from> > > > > > > them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much.> > > > > > > Whatever methods> > > > > > > we follow, all must lead to the same results, that> > > > > > > is what astrology> > > > > > > must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody> > > > > > > can create their> > > > > > > own branches of this divine science and destroy it.> > > > > > > So please do not> > > > > > > try to crucify me at the first instance.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot> > > > > > > create an event. My> > > > > > > sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not> > > > > > > divorced,> > > > > > > (Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is> > > > > > > in 12th it need> > > > > > > not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a> > > > > > > friendly sign can> > > > > > > modify the effects, can be just separation, husband> > > > > > > staying away due> > > > > > > to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord> > > > > > > can modify the> > > > > > > effects. A lot of other factors need to be> > > > > > > considered. I am not a> > > > > > > pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings> > > > > > > from whatever I> > > > > > > have read so far. Anyways I do believe that position> > > > > > > of 7th lord in> > > > > > > 12th does negatively affect marital harmony. This> > > > > > > what I have> > > > > > > observed.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and> > > > > > > 12th lord Moon are> > > > > > > in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon> > > > > > > being in its own> > > > > > > sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th.> > > > > > > The negative> > > > > > > effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord> > > > > > > saturn with moon in> > > > > > > 12th, taking into account the opposite nature of> > > > > > > these planets, their> > > > > > > life can be very cold and indifferent without any> > > > > > > emotions towards> > > > > > > each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with> > > > > > > legal issues, court> > > > > > > cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce)> > > > > > > effects of saturn> > > > > > > is less when compared with 7th house effects because> > > > > > > 7th (Aquarius)> > > > > > > is the moola trikona of saturn. What I have> > > > > > > understood is if a planet> > > > > > > owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona, the result> > > > > > > of moola trikona> > > > > > > predominates. So again the chances of staying> > > > > > > together gains weight> > > > > > > than getting legally separated.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Viewing in another angle, without considering the> > > > > > > exchange efects,> > > > > > > let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna> > > > > > > lord. As per what I> > > > > > > know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive> > > > > > > results to the houses> > > > > > > he is associated with by means of position, aspect,> > > > > > > association with> > > > > > > lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna> > > > > > > lord tries to> > > > > > > impart positive results for 7th as it is in> > > > > > > conjunction with 7th> > > > > > > lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being together> > > > > > > shows the native> > > > > > > and his partner trying to stick together> > > > > > > irrespective of the> > > > > > > differences.> > > > > > > These are the reasons I can find with my minimal> > > > > > > knowledge. If I am> > > > > > > wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I> > > > > > > think this> > > > > > > person's married life is as good as separated.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > For my learning, can you please let me know the> > > > > > > personlity of this> > > > > > > person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily> > > > > > > depressed? Also> > > > > > > was he always in his native place or did he go> > > > > > > abroad any time? Does> > > > > > > he have any serious health problems?> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > Jyothi> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > > > > > ramesh mishra> > > > > > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Jyothi, Ash and all,> > > > > > > > I give you one chart of a male native who is> > > > > > > closely related to> > > > > > > me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and 2nd> > > > > > > lord occupy 12th> > > > > > > house.> > > > > > > > According to the verdict of Jyothi he should> > > > > > > have divorced his> > > > > > > spouse> > > > > > > > because of 7th lord in 12th.> > > > > > > > In fact it is not so. They married 38 years> > > > > > > before and still> > > > > > > living together.No doubt there married life is hell> > > > > > > but staying> > > > > > > together.> > > > > > > > Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he> > > > > > > was not> > > > > > > divorced ?> > > > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > > > > INDIA.> > > > > > > > He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters.> > > > > > > > He served in defence forces in IAF and took> > > > > > > volunteerly> > > > > > > retirement after doing service in armed forces.> > > > > > > > Again after two years of retirement he got a job> > > > > > > in central> > > > > > > government.> > > > > > > > Between this period of two years, he was not> > > > > > > jobless.He has been> > > > > > > doing job in a private co.> > > > > > > > If she can analyse it will be good learning for> > > > > > > us.> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > Ash kas@ wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Jyothi,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Here 2 laws of KAS are matching.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt.> > > > > > > > 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and> > > > > > > aspecting 7th> > > > > > > house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa.> > > > > > > > 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8> > > > > > > points, and such> > > > > > > marriages will break in highest power planet so> > > > > > > dasha of Saturn when> > > > > > > it came it will break the marriage.> > > > > > > > 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3> > > > > > > zeroes in SAV.> > > > > > > Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn,> > > > > > > will stick to> > > > > > > her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so> > > > > > > difference is much> > > > > > > more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons,> > > > > > > ego are very> > > > > > > fragile.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of> > > > > > > Ju and breaks in> > > > > > > Ju. As per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws> > > > > > > of KAS i.e.> > > > > > > Marriage in lowest power planet will break in> > > > > > > Highest power planet of> > > > > > > 6th or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is> > > > > > > very powerful,> > > > > > > being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E> > > > > > > along with Karak> > > > > > > i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the chart.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Marriage in 6th lord's antra which is only 8> > > > > > > points in 7th house> > > > > > > and breaks in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th> > > > > > > house> > > > > > === message truncated ===> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Dear Manoj, Sreenadh ji, Krishna Ji and all, Manoj ! Do you know the profession of this native. If you know his profession then it is ok for learning purpose. I cast his chart and found that this native has very good photographic memory and good grasping power.He seems to be very intelligent. He should be a good mathematician and good imaging power. Skilled person . The planets for giving him the job are Me, Su , Ma and Jup. Me, Su and Ju are placed in 5th house in rasi. Mars is in 8th house of rasi. Out of these four planets Su is weak in 10th house, Ma is weak in 6th house, Me is strong in all 12 houses and Ju is also strong in 3rd, 6th, 10th and 11th houses. So I arrived at the decision that his Job should be related with mainly the planets Me and Ju. Since the native is very intelligent and brilliant his job should be in line with computer engineering or lecturer in some college or university. Can you please find out his line of job and feed us back ? Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishrachiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv wrote: Dear Karji, The chart under cosideration belongs to a very intelligent human being who has knowledge of more than what he has been educated. There is indirect debilitation of the Lagna lord Venus and presence of Ketu & Rahu signifies a change midcourse in education. Debilitated Saturn in 12th house, aspecting the 9th its own house can send the native to a foriegn land.. Its aspect on the 6th house (sign of exalation) can lead to tendency to a job. The person may be employed in a field related to mettalic raw materials like ores, wastes and scrap in a slurry form ( semi solid). Also Rahu by itself may also signify media and telivision especially when aspected by Venus. In fact one astrologer had told me that Chandra- Ketu combination is seen in people with Aquatic business, and Chandra- Rahu is seen in those who have Sand dredging business. 2nd house and 5th house combination is very good for people handling money ( stock markets, bankers etc ) but that is not connected with his 10th house so it may be signifying his talent only. --- On Thu, 27/12/07, MANOJ KAR <manoj_kar7 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: MANOJ KAR <manoj_kar7 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: Re: RE:Reason Job of the native Date: Thursday, 27 December, 2007, 10:33 PM Respected gurujis, Can u pl make some light on the profession according to the below mention data.Actually in my opinion the profession should be in teaching,computer, Iron/hardware related line etc,because of the in 10th house Rahu(electronics related) is placed & 10th lord is saturn ( Iron/hardware related) & since mercury(IT related) is in exclted with jupiter & sun,he may in teaching line as well. I am only the beginer,hence any wrong calculation may pleased be excused. 1.Taurus lagna 2.2nd house- empty 3.3rd house- empty 4.4th-Venus, ketu & moon in leo. 5.5th-Mercury, Jupiter & sun in virgo 6.6th house- empty 7.7th house-empty 8.8th-Mars is in sagitarius 9.9th house-empty 10.10th -Rahu in aquarus 11.11th - empty 12.12th-Saturn in aries. DOB-7th Oct 1969 POB-Sambalpur, Orissa TOB-08.04 PM regards manoj Sreenadh <sreesog > wrote: Dear Durga ji, Thanks for participating in the discussion. I humbly request you to be more active in the group - so that we may get a better learning/interactio n experience. I feel like totally agreeing with you - since Mercury in 2nd combined with the Sun in lagna (in Dasa-Antara) seems to indicate an apt combination for a - * head teacher - head of department? headmaster? own school/collage? * Banking/Insurance - Private bank? Administrative/ Managerial post? But the 3rd major choice comes to mind is - * Why don't a powerful adviser/politician or with Sun in lagna, Saturn in 6th, Mercury with Mars in 2nd, and Me-Ju navamsa in 7th ? (I know that you won't appreciate the non-systematic logic applied) Any way it seems that the major carrier of the native started late in life in his Middle Thirties. Let us all wait till Krishan ji reveals the truth - confirming or negating our reading. Love and regards,Sreenadhancient_indian_ astrology, "durga050" <durga050 wrote: Namastae Krishnaji, In my assessment , he is either in teaching /Banking (Insurance) profession Durga > ancient_indian_ astrology, Krishnamurthy> Seetharama krishna_1998@ wrote:> >> > Dear All,> >> > A good discussion is going on on Profession. I would like to present a> chart and ask if anyone can come up with the profession of the following> native:> >> > Sex: Male> > DOB: Aug 26, 1963> > TOB: 7:05 am> > POB: Bangalore> >> > I don't need any reading on this chart, hence this is not a chart> reading request. I know this person for about 20 years. I know the birth> details of are pretty accurate. His father was interested in astrology> and hence has made a careful record of his son's birth time. I want> members to just come up with the pssoible profession of this native.> >> > Regards,> > Krishna> >> > Ash kas@ wrote:> > Dear Chakraborty,> >> > 10th lord from Lagna is Venus and Venus is in navamsa of Jupiter> > Planets in 10th house are Venus and Venus is again in navamsa of Ju> > Ma is in 10th house and it is in navamsa of Mars> > Ra is in navamsa of Sa.> >> >> > 10th lord from Moon is Mars and Mars is in navamsa of Sco so ruled by> Mars> >> > 10th lord from Sun is Gemini ruled by Mercury and Mercury is in> navamsa of Saturn.> >> > So career giving planets are Ma, Sa, Ju, Ju.> >> > You also have Venus who is with 3 bindus in 10th house so again it> shows good skills in management with more of artistic touch.> >> > Now, Bring these planets back into Rasi.> >> > Ma is in 10th house so house of authority and its in sign of Libra> > Sa is in 7th house and its in watery sign of Cancer> > Jupiter is in 5th house in the fixed sign of Taurus.> >> > So this can show Metallurgical Engineering related to Mo and Ve (so> can be petroleum or some liquids) and also Management or advisory role> ? Ju or consulting.> >> > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ---> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology> [ancient_ indian_astrology @. com] On Behalf Of> Chakraborty, PL> > Tuesday December 25, 2007 11:26 PM> > 'ancient_indian_ astrology'> > RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of> the native> >> >> > Dear Sreenadh-ji,> >> > Following are the details.> >> >> >> > DOB : October 6, 1976> >> > TOB : 13:30 hrs (+/- 5 min)> >> > Kolkata, 88 E 22, 22N34,> >> > And he insists that 10H has Ma+Ve+Ra in> >> > his original Kundli at home.> >> >> >> > He is a Metallurgical engr, worked for 1.5 yrs in> >> > Hindustan Motors (ambassador car factory)> >> > and then IOCL (Sept 2000-07 Jul).> >> >> >> > Regards> >> >> >> > Chakraborty> >> > > > Sreenadh [sreesog@ ]> > Wednesday, December 26, 2007 9:33 AM> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the> native> > Dear Chakraborty ji,> > First thig first - provide the date of birth with time and location.> Let me see the chart and then I will reply.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Chakraborty, PL"> CHAKRABORTYP2@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh,> > >> > > I am also going thru' your mail and learning things.> > >> > > One question, if you please.> > >> > > What happens when 10H from Lagna has 2 / 3 planets ?> > >> > > One of my Junior has Cp lagna and Ma, Ve and Rahu in 10H.> > > He is undergoing Mer-Ve-Mer (Vim. dasha). (Mercury exalted> > > with Sun in Virgo.). 10H lord Ve sits in Pisces in Navamsha.> > >> > > He left his job in Mer-Ven-sat and trying to get a job in Gulf.> > >> > > So, how do I apply the techniques here ?> > >> > > 10H L is venus.. not connected to his job (engineer).> > > Rahu and Mars may signify petroleum and engg.> > > But no connection to Sun (he was in a PSU).> > > 2H is moon (parivartana with sat in Cn).> > > 10H lord in pisces ...again does not signify engg.> > > 2H has Moon and 11H is empty.> > >> > > 'Looking forward to reply.> > >> > > Regards> > > Chakra> > >> > > > > > Sreenadh [sreesog@ ]> > > Monday, December 24, 2007 7:33 PM> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of> the> > > native> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Vinita ji,> > > Lol....! That won't work always.. Note that "it is one of the> > > methods" But still, when I say so, I should clarify some of the> other> > > possibilities as well.> > > 1) Income should be predicted based on the significance of the> planet> > > present in 10th House from Lagna, Moon, or Sun. i.e. First check> whether> > > there is a planet in 10th from Lagna, if not check whether there is> a planet> > > in 10th from Moon, if not check whether there is a planet in 10th> from Sun.> > > The said planet will provide income (job) based on its significance> at some> > > point of time for sure. (Yes, proper Dasa or Antara can be> considered)> > > 2) The benefic planets in 11-2-Lagna will provide income from> different> > > sources during their corresponding Dasa-Antara. Thus Job could be> related to> > > this as well in the corresponding periods.> > > 3) The Navamsa lord of the 10 HL can indicate the job. (But try> using it> > > only after seeing the possibilities indicated by the first two)> > > Note that in the said horoscope, the first choice was not applicable> due to> > > the absence of planets in 10th. Even the Ra in 10th was supposed to> give the> > > result fo Venus the 10th lord from Lagna and Moon (Lagna and Moon> was in> > > Leo).. Thus I went for the Navamsa lord of the 10th House and that> was Mars -> > > clearly explaining why the job was as a government servant, that too> in> > > army. > > > Note: Do you see some lesson from the above note? > > > Love and regards,> > > Sreenadh> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vinita kumar"> > > shankar_mamta@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Shreenadh, i can only say WOW!!!> > > >> > > > tried to check this with the chart of another native who is a> govt.> > > > servant. The lagna is Taurus, so the 10th lord is Saturn. In> > > > Navamsa, Saturn is in the amsa of Saggi while Jupiter in natal> chart> > > > is conjoined with the Sun. Did i follow the steps correctly?> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sreenadh"> > > > sreesog@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Remesh ji,> > > > > ==>> > > > > > Astrology,mainly, gains reputation on correct> > > > > > prediction.> > > > > <==> > > > > I totally agree with the above statement of yours. > > > > > ==>> > > > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > > > > servant ? I could not find it out till now?> > > > > <==> > > > > That is some thing cute, and because of that statement I got> > > > > interested in the said horoscope. I hope the following is the> > > > birth> > > > > details under discussion.> > > > > ==>> > > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > > > INDIA.> > > > > <==> > > > > One of the major method to determine the job of a native> > > > is "Karmesasya> > > > > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida" (Phaladeepika)> > > > meaning, "the> > > > > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa> lord> > > > of the> > > > > 10th house lord from Natal lagna"> > > > > In the said horoscope, Lagna is Leo, 10th house is Tarus (with> > > > Ra in> > > > > it), 10th lord is Ve. The navamsa of Ve falls in Scorpio and Ve> is> > > > > situated in Lagna Leo itself. Thus -> > > > > Karmesa = Ve> > > > > Karmesasya navamsa rasipa = lord of Scorpio = Ma.> > > > > Thus Mars is should signify the job of the native in the said> > > > > horoscope. With the 10th lord Ve in Leo (lord of Leo Sun is the> > > > > significator of Government) and also with Mars as the> significator> > > > of> > > > > the job it no wonder that the native "is a govt, servant and> that> > > > to0 in> > > > > armed forces".> > > > > Hope the methodology and explanation is clear.> > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > Sreenadh> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, ramesh mishra> > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Jyothi Ji,> > > > > > Namaskar,> > > > > > I do appreciate your comments.> > > > > > I am not biased to any system.> > > > > > But ofcourse, I give priority no.1 to KAS.> > > > > > Astrology,mainly, gains reputation on correct> > > > > > prediction.> > > > > > I have experienced VA more complicated and confusing> > > > > > for timing any event.> > > > > > Now as for the chart, the native's married life is not> > > > > > ok and sometimes there is querrelling among them and> > > > > > the situation becomes so nasty both of them becomes> > > > > > ready to divorce but after few hours everything comes> > > > > > to normal and they live together happily for months> > > > > > together.> > > > > > Nobody knows when the happy situation will take turn.> > > > > > As far as I know native never faced depression.> > > > > > He never went abroad and no chances in future also> > > > > > because his financial condition is not so strong.> > > > > > He has been mostly visiting many places in India.> > > > > > He took birth in a small village but after 4 years of> > > > > > birth he never stayed in his birth place .> > > > > > As I have stated in my mail he is a govt,servant and> > > > > > that to in armed forces.> > > > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > > > > servant ?> > > > > > I could not find it out till now?> > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > >> > > > > > --- jyothi_b_lakshmi jyothi_b_lakshmi@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal> > > > > > > importance to 6th> > > > > > > lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing> > > > > > > divorce. I do not> > > > > > > know why you overlooked what I said about 6th lord> > > > > > > aspecting 7th and> > > > > > > tried to negate my reasoning by emphasising on 7th> > > > > > > lord in 12th. May> > > > > > > be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt> > > > > > > like putting down> > > > > > > what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying> > > > > > > reasoning by KAS> > > > > > > alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying> > > > > > > to integrate the> > > > > > > working points from all systems and trying to apply> > > > > > > them for my> > > > > > > learning. I am trying to pick up the best and> > > > > > > plausible clues from> > > > > > > all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying> > > > > > > to learn from> > > > > > > them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much.> > > > > > > Whatever methods> > > > > > > we follow, all must lead to the same results, that> > > > > > > is what astrology> > > > > > > must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody> > > > > > > can create their> > > > > > > own branches of this divine science and destroy it.> > > > > > > So please do not> > > > > > > try to crucify me at the first instance.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot> > > > > > > create an event. My> > > > > > > sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not> > > > > > > divorced,> > > > > > > (Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is> > > > > > > in 12th it need> > > > > > > not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a> > > > > > > friendly sign can> > > > > > > modify the effects, can be just separation, husband> > > > > > > staying away due> > > > > > > to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord> > > > > > > can modify the> > > > > > > effects. A lot of other factors need to be> > > > > > > considered. I am not a> > > > > > > pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings> > > > > > > from whatever I> > > > > > > have read so far. Anyways I do believe that position> > > > > > > of 7th lord in> > > > > > > 12th does negatively affect marital harmony. This> > > > > > > what I have> > > > > > > observed.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and> > > > > > > 12th lord Moon are> > > > > > > in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon> > > > > > > being in its own> > > > > > > sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th.> > > > > > > The negative> > > > > > > effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord> > > > > > > saturn with moon in> > > > > > > 12th, taking into account the opposite nature of> > > > > > > these planets, their> > > > > > > life can be very cold and indifferent without any> > > > > > > emotions towards> > > > > > > each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with> > > > > > > legal issues, court> > > > > > > cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce)> > > > > > > effects of saturn> > > > > > > is less when compared with 7th house effects because> > > > > > > 7th (Aquarius)> > > > > > > is the moola trikona of saturn. What I have> > > > > > > understood is if a planet> > > > > > > owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona, the result> > > > > > > of moola trikona> > > > > > > predominates. So again the chances of staying> > > > > > > together gains weight> > > > > > > than getting legally separated.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Viewing in another angle, without considering the> > > > > > > exchange efects,> > > > > > > let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna> > > > > > > lord. As per what I> > > > > > > know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive> > > > > > > results to the houses> > > > > > > he is associated with by means of position, aspect,> > > > > > > association with> > > > > > > lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna> > > > > > > lord tries to> > > > > > > impart positive results for 7th as it is in> > > > > > > conjunction with 7th> > > > > > > lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being together> > > > > > > shows the native> > > > > > > and his partner trying to stick together> > > > > > > irrespective of the> > > > > > > differences.> > > > > > > These are the reasons I can find with my minimal> > > > > > > knowledge. If I am> > > > > > > wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I> > > > > > > think this> > > > > > > person's married life is as good as separated.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > For my learning, can you please let me know the> > > > > > > personlity of this> > > > > > > person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily> > > > > > > depressed? Also> > > > > > > was he always in his native place or did he go> > > > > > > abroad any time? Does> > > > > > > he have any serious health problems?> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > Jyothi> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > > > > > ramesh mishra> > > > > > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Jyothi, Ash and all,> > > > > > > > I give you one chart of a male native who is> > > > > > > closely related to> > > > > > > me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and 2nd> > > > > > > lord occupy 12th> > > > > > > house.> > > > > > > > According to the verdict of Jyothi he should> > > > > > > have divorced his> > > > > > > spouse> > > > > > > > because of 7th lord in 12th.> > > > > > > > In fact it is not so. They married 38 years> > > > > > > before and still> > > > > > > living together.No doubt there married life is hell> > > > > > > but staying> > > > > > > together.> > > > > > > > Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he> > > > > > > was not> > > > > > > divorced ?> > > > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > > > > INDIA.> > > > > > > > He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters.> > > > > > > > He served in defence forces in IAF and took> > > > > > > volunteerly> > > > > > > retirement after doing service in armed forces.> > > > > > > > Again after two years of retirement he got a job> > > > > > > in central> > > > > > > government.> > > > > > > > Between this period of two years, he was not> > > > > > > jobless.He has been> > > > > > > doing job in a private co.> > > > > > > > If she can analyse it will be good learning for> > > > > > > us.> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > Ash kas@ wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Jyothi,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Here 2 laws of KAS are matching.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt.> > > > > > > > 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and> > > > > > > aspecting 7th> > > > > > > house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa.> > > > > > > > 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8> > > > > > > points, and such> > > > > > > marriages will break in highest power planet so> > > > > > > dasha of Saturn when> > > > > > > it came it will break the marriage.> > > > > > > > 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3> > > > > > > zeroes in SAV.> > > > > > > Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn,> > > > > > > will stick to> > > > > > > her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so> > > > > > > difference is much> > > > > > > more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons,> > > > > > > ego are very> > > > > > > fragile.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of> > > > > > > Ju and breaks in> > > > > > > Ju. As per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws> > > > > > > of KAS i.e.> > > > > > > Marriage in lowest power planet will break in> > > > > > > Highest power planet of> > > > > > > 6th or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is> > > > > > > very powerful,> > > > > > > being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E> > > > > > > along with Karak> > > > > > > i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the chart.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Marriage in 6th lord's antra which is only 8> > > > > > > points in 7th house> > > > > > > and breaks in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th> > > > > > > house> > > > > > === message truncated ===> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. 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Guest guest Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 Dear Manoj and members, I wish you all and the members of your family a prosperous and happy new year 2008. Manoj! Thanks for giving feed back. Ramesh Mishra --- MANOJ KAR <manoj_kar7 wrote: > Respected Rameshji,Namaskar > > HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL - 2008 > > U are right.The native is a IT Hardware Engineer > at present & from last 15 years he is working in > hardware line only.Earlier he was in telecom harware > field & from last 5 years he is in IT Hardware > field.Though his Engineering background is only > diploma but his knowledge is not below from any > graduate engg.He is having a sharp intelligence,but > inspite of hardwork & experience,he has not yet get > the position he deserved. > > regards > manoj kar > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > Dear Manoj, Sreenadh ji, Krishna Ji and > all, > Manoj ! Do you know the profession of this native. > If you know his profession then it is ok for > learning purpose. > I cast his chart and found that this native has > very good photographic memory and good grasping > power.He seems to be very intelligent. > He should be a good mathematician and good imaging > power. Skilled person . > The planets for giving him the job are Me, Su , Ma > and Jup. > Me, Su and Ju are placed in 5th house in rasi. > Mars is in 8th house of rasi. > Out of these four planets Su is weak in 10th > house, Ma is weak in 6th house, > Me is strong in all 12 houses and Ju is also > strong in 3rd, 6th, 10th and 11th houses. > So I arrived at the decision that his Job should > be related with mainly the planets Me and Ju. > Since the native is very intelligent and brilliant > his job should be in line with computer engineering > or lecturer in some college or university. > Can you please find out his line of job and feed > us back ? > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv wrote: > Dear Karji, > The chart under cosideration belongs to a very > intelligent human being who has knowledge of more > than what he has been educated. There is indirect > debilitation of the Lagna lord Venus and presence of > Ketu & Rahu signifies a change midcourse in > education. Debilitated Saturn in 12th house, > aspecting the 9th its own house can send the native > to a foriegn land.. Its aspect on the 6th house > (sign of exalation) can lead to tendency to a job. > The person may be employed in a field related to > mettalic raw materials like ores, wastes and scrap > in a slurry form ( semi solid). > Also Rahu by itself may also signify media and > telivision especially when aspected by Venus. In > fact one astrologer had told me that Chandra- Ketu > combination is seen in people with Aquatic business, > and Chandra- Rahu is seen in those who have Sand > dredging business. > 2nd house and 5th house combination is very good > for people handling money ( stock markets, bankers > etc ) but that is not connected with his 10th house > so it may be signifying his talent only. > > --- On Thu, 27/12/07, MANOJ KAR > <manoj_kar7 wrote: > > MANOJ KAR <manoj_kar7 > Re: Re: > RE:Reason Job of the native > > Thursday, 27 December, 2007, 10:33 PM > > Respected gurujis, > > Can u pl make some light on the profession > according to the below mention data.Actually in my > opinion the profession should be in > teaching,computer, Iron/hardware related line > etc,because of the in 10th house Rahu(electronics > related) is placed & 10th lord is saturn ( > Iron/hardware related) & since mercury(IT related) > is in exclted with jupiter & sun,he may in teaching > line as well. > > I am only the beginer,hence any wrong calculation > may pleased be excused. > > 1.Taurus lagna > 2.2nd house- empty > 3.3rd house- empty > 4.4th-Venus, ketu & moon in leo. > 5.5th-Mercury, Jupiter & sun in virgo > 6.6th house- empty > 7.7th house-empty > 8.8th-Mars is in sagitarius > 9.9th house-empty > 10.10th -Rahu in aquarus > 11.11th - empty > 12.12th-Saturn in aries. > > DOB-7th Oct 1969 > POB-Sambalpur, Orissa > TOB-08.04 PM > > regards > manoj > > Sreenadh <sreesog > wrote: > Dear Durga ji, > Thanks for participating in the discussion. I > humbly request you to be more active in the group - > so that we may get a better learning/interactio n > experience. > I feel like totally agreeing with you - since > Mercury in 2nd combined with the Sun in lagna (in > Dasa-Antara) seems to indicate an apt combination > for a - > * head teacher - head of department? headmaster? > own school/collage? > * Banking/Insurance - Private bank? Administrative/ > Managerial post? > But the 3rd major choice comes to mind is - > * Why don't a powerful adviser/politician or with > Sun in lagna, Saturn in 6th, Mercury with Mars in > 2nd, and Me-Ju navamsa in 7th ? (I know that you > won't appreciate the non-systematic logic applied) > Any way it seems that the major carrier of the > native started late in life in his Middle Thirties. > Let us all wait till Krishan ji reveals the truth - > confirming or negating our reading. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > " durga050 " <durga050 wrote: > > Namastae Krishnaji, > In my assessment , he is either in teaching > /Banking (Insurance) profession > Durga > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . > com, Krishnamurthy > > Seetharama krishna_1998@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > A good discussion is going on on Profession. I > would like to present a > > chart and ask if anyone can come up with the > profession of the following > > native: > > > > > > Sex: Male > > > DOB: Aug 26, 1963 > > > TOB: 7:05 am > > > POB: Bangalore > > > > > > I don't need any reading on this chart, hence > this is not a chart > > reading request. I know this person for about 20 > years. I know the birth > > details of are pretty accurate. His father was > interested in astrology > > and hence has made a careful record of his son's > birth time. I want > > members to just come up with the pssoible > profession of this native. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Krishna > > > > > > Ash kas@ wrote: > > > Dear Chakraborty, > > > > > > 10th lord from Lagna is Venus and Venus is in > navamsa of Jupiter > > > Planets in 10th house are Venus and Venus is > again in navamsa of Ju > > > Ma is in 10th house and it is in navamsa of Mars > > > Ra is in navamsa of Sa. > > > > > > > > > 10th lord from Moon is Mars and Mars is in > navamsa of Sco so ruled by > > Mars > > > > > > 10th lord from Sun is Gemini ruled by Mercury > and Mercury is in > > navamsa of Saturn. > > > > > > So career giving planets are Ma, Sa, Ju, Ju. > > > > === message truncated === Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. 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