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Dear Chkraborty ji, On re-reading your mail, I am getting the feeling that your friend's horoscope is a brim case, and possibly the lagna will shift to Sagatterious. :=) Any way, provide the DOB/TOB/POB. :)Love and regards,Sreenadh

, "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:Dear Chakraborty ji, First thig first - provide the date of birth with time and location. Let me see the chart and then I will reply.Love and regards,Sreenadh> , "Chakraborty, PL"> CHAKRABORTYP2@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sreenadh,> >> > I am also going thru' your mail and learning things.> >> > One question, if you please.> >> > What happens when 10H from Lagna has 2 / 3 planets ?> >> > One of my Junior has Cp lagna and Ma, Ve and Rahu in 10H.> > He is undergoing Mer-Ve-Mer (Vim. dasha). (Mercury exalted> > with Sun in Virgo.). 10H lord Ve sits in Pisces in Navamsha.> >> > He left his job in Mer-Ven-sat and trying to get a job in Gulf.> >> > So, how do I apply the techniques here ?> >> > 10H L is venus.. not connected to his job (engineer).> > Rahu and Mars may signify petroleum and engg.> > But no connection to Sun (he was in a PSU).> > 2H is moon (parivartana with sat in Cn).> > 10H lord in pisces ...again does not signify engg.> > 2H has Moon and 11H is empty.> >> > 'Looking forward to reply.> >> > Regards> > Chakra> >> > > > Sreenadh [sreesog@]> > Monday, December 24, 2007 7:33 PM> > > > Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the> > native> >> >> >> > Dear Vinita ji,> > Lol....! :) That won't work always.. :) Note that "it is one of the> > methods" :) But still, when I say so, I should clarify some of the> other> > possibilities as well.> > 1) Income should be predicted based on the significance of the planet> > present in 10th House from Lagna, Moon, or Sun. i.e. First check> whether> > there is a planet in 10th from Lagna, if not check whether there is a> planet> > in 10th from Moon, if not check whether there is a planet in 10th from> Sun.> > The said planet will provide income (job) based on its significance at> some> > point of time for sure. (Yes, proper Dasa or Antara can be considered)> > 2) The benefic planets in 11-2-Lagna will provide income from> different> > sources during their corresponding Dasa-Antara. Thus Job could be> related to> > this as well in the corresponding periods.> > 3) The Navamsa lord of the 10 HL can indicate the job. (But try using> it> > only after seeing the possibilities indicated by the first two)> > Note that in the said horoscope, the first choice was not applicable> due to> > the absence of planets in 10th. Even the Ra in 10th was supposed to> give the> > result fo Venus the 10th lord from Lagna and Moon (Lagna and Moon was> in> > Leo). Thus I went for the Navamsa lord of the 10th House and that was> Mars -> > clearly explaining why the job was as a government servant, that too> in> > army. :)> > Note: Do you see some lesson from the above note? ;)> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> >> > , "vinita kumar"> > shankar_mamta@ wrote:> > >> > > Shreenadh, i can only say WOW!!!> > >> > > tried to check this with the chart of another native who is a govt.> > > servant. The lagna is Taurus, so the 10th lord is Saturn. In> > > Navamsa, Saturn is in the amsa of Saggi while Jupiter in natal chart> > > is conjoined with the Sun. Did i follow the steps correctly?> > >> > > , "Sreenadh"> > > sreesog@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Remesh ji,> > > > ==>> > > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > > > prediction.> > > > <==> > > > I totally agree with the above statement of yours. :)> > > > ==>> > > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > > > servant ? I could not find it out till now?> > > > <==> > > > That is some thing cute, and because of that statement I got> > > > interested in the said horoscope. :) I hope the following is the> > > birth> > > > details under discussion.> > > > ==>> > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > > INDIA.> > > > <==> > > > One of the major method to determine the job of a native> > > is "Karmesasya> > > > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida" (Phaladeepika)> > > meaning, "the> > > > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa lord> > > of the> > > > 10th house lord from Natal lagna"> > > > In the said horoscope, Lagna is Leo, 10th house is Tarus (with> > > Ra in> > > > it), 10th lord is Ve. The navamsa of Ve falls in Scorpio and Ve is> > > > situated in Lagna Leo itself. Thus -> > > > Karmesa = Ve> > > > Karmesasya navamsa rasipa = lord of Scorpio = Ma.> > > > Thus Mars is should signify the job of the native in the said> > > > horoscope. With the 10th lord Ve in Leo (lord of Leo Sun is the> > > > significator of Government) and also with Mars as the significator> > > of> > > > the job it no wonder that the native "is a govt, servant and that> > > to0 in> > > > armed forces".> > > > Hope the methodology and explanation is clear.> > > > Love and regards,> > > > Sreenadh> > > >> > > > , ramesh mishra> > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Jyothi Ji,> > > > > Namaskar,> > > > > I do appreciate your comments.> > > > > I am not biased to any system.> > > > > But ofcourse, I give priority no.1 to KAS.> > > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > > > prediction.> > > > > I have experienced VA more complicated and confusing> > > > > for timing any event.> > > > > Now as for the chart, the native's married life is not> > > > > ok and sometimes there is querrelling among them and> > > > > the situation becomes so nasty both of them becomes> > > > > ready to divorce but after few hours everything comes> > > > > to normal and they live together happily for months> > > > > together.> > > > > Nobody knows when the happy situation will take turn.> > > > > As far as I know native never faced depression.> > > > > He never went abroad and no chances in future also> > > > > because his financial condition is not so strong.> > > > > He has been mostly visiting many places in India.> > > > > He took birth in a small village but after 4 years of> > > > > birth he never stayed in his birth place .> > > > > As I have stated in my mail he is a govt,servant and> > > > > that to in armed forces.> > > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > > > servant ?> > > > > I could not find it out till now?> > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > >> > > > > --- jyothi_b_lakshmi jyothi_b_lakshmi@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > > >> > > > > > When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal> > > > > > importance to 6th> > > > > > lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing> > > > > > divorce. I do not> > > > > > know why you overlooked what I said about 6th lord> > > > > > aspecting 7th and> > > > > > tried to negate my reasoning by emphasising on 7th> > > > > > lord in 12th. May> > > > > > be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt> > > > > > like putting down> > > > > > what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying> > > > > > reasoning by KAS> > > > > > alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying> > > > > > to integrate the> > > > > > working points from all systems and trying to apply> > > > > > them for my> > > > > > learning. I am trying to pick up the best and> > > > > > plausible clues from> > > > > > all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying> > > > > > to learn from> > > > > > them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much.> > > > > > Whatever methods> > > > > > we follow, all must lead to the same results, that> > > > > > is what astrology> > > > > > must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody> > > > > > can create their> > > > > > own branches of this divine science and destroy it.> > > > > > So please do not> > > > > > try to crucify me at the first instance.> > > > > >> > > > > > Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot> > > > > > create an event. My> > > > > > sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not> > > > > > divorced,> > > > > > (Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is> > > > > > in 12th it need> > > > > > not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a> > > > > > friendly sign can> > > > > > modify the effects, can be just separation, husband> > > > > > staying away due> > > > > > to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord> > > > > > can modify the> > > > > > effects. A lot of other factors need to be> > > > > > considered. I am not a> > > > > > pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings> > > > > > from whatever I> > > > > > have read so far. Anyways I do believe that position> > > > > > of 7th lord in> > > > > > 12th does negatively affect marital harmony. This> > > > > > what I have> > > > > > observed.> > > > > >> > > > > > Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and> > > > > > 12th lord Moon are> > > > > > in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon> > > > > > being in its own> > > > > > sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th.> > > > > > The negative> > > > > > effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord> > > > > > saturn with moon in> > > > > > 12th, taking into account the opposite nature of> > > > > > these planets, their> > > > > > life can be very cold and indifferent without any> > > > > > emotions towards> > > > > > each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with> > > > > > legal issues, court> > > > > > cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce)> > > > > > effects of saturn> > > > > > is less when compared with 7th house effects because> > > > > > 7th (Aquarius)> > > > > > is the moola trikona of saturn. What I have> > > > > > understood is if a planet> > > > > > owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona, the result> > > > > > of moola trikona> > > > > > predominates. So again the chances of staying> > > > > > together gains weight> > > > > > than getting legally separated.> > > > > >> > > > > > Viewing in another angle, without considering the> > > > > > exchange efects,> > > > > > let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna> > > > > > lord. As per what I> > > > > > know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive> > > > > > results to the houses> > > > > > he is associated with by means of position, aspect,> > > > > > association with> > > > > > lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna> > > > > > lord tries to> > > > > > impart positive results for 7th as it is in> > > > > > conjunction with 7th> > > > > > lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being together> > > > > > shows the native> > > > > > and his partner trying to stick together> > > > > > irrespective of the> > > > > > differences.> > > > > > These are the reasons I can find with my minimal> > > > > > knowledge. If I am> > > > > > wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I> > > > > > think this> > > > > > person's married life is as good as separated.> > > > > >> > > > > > For my learning, can you please let me know the> > > > > > personlity of this> > > > > > person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily> > > > > > depressed? Also> > > > > > was he always in his native place or did he go> > > > > > abroad any time? Does> > > > > > he have any serious health problems?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Jyothi> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ,> > > > > > ramesh mishra> > > > > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Jyothi, Ash and all,> > > > > > > I give you one chart of a male native who is> > > > > > closely related to> > > > > > me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and 2nd> > > > > > lord occupy 12th> > > > > > house.> > > > > > > According to the verdict of Jyothi he should> > > > > > have divorced his> > > > > > spouse> > > > > > > because of 7th lord in 12th.> > > > > > > In fact it is not so. They married 38 years> > > > > > before and still> > > > > > living together.No doubt there married life is hell> > > > > > but staying> > > > > > together.> > > > > > > Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he> > > > > > was not> > > > > > divorced ?> > > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > > > INDIA.> > > > > > > He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters.> > > > > > > He served in defence forces in IAF and took> > > > > > volunteerly> > > > > > retirement after doing service in armed forces.> > > > > > > Again after two years of retirement he got a job> > > > > > in central> > > > > > government.> > > > > > > Between this period of two years, he was not> > > > > > jobless.He has been> > > > > > doing job in a private co.> > > > > > > If she can analyse it will be good learning for> > > > > > us.> > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > Ash kas@ wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Jyothi,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Here 2 laws of KAS are matching.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt.> > > > > > > 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and> > > > > > aspecting 7th> > > > > > house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa.> > > > > > > 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8> > > > > > points, and such> > > > > > marriages will break in highest power planet so> > > > > > dasha of Saturn when> > > > > > it came it will break the marriage.> > > > > > > 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3> > > > > > zeroes in SAV.> > > > > > Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn,> > > > > > will stick to> > > > > > her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so> > > > > > difference is much> > > > > > more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons,> > > > > > ego are very> > > > > > fragile.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of> > > > > > Ju and breaks in> > > > > > Ju. As per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws> > > > > > of KAS i.e.> > > > > > Marriage in lowest power planet will break in> > > > > > Highest power planet of> > > > > > 6th or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is> > > > > > very powerful,> > > > > > being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E> > > > > > along with Karak> > > > > > i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the chart.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Marriage in 6th lord's antra which is only 8> > > > > > points in 7th house> > > > > > and breaks in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th> > > > > > house> > > > > === message truncated ===> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Go to> > > > http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway. 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Dear Chakraborthy,

 

Kindly work out as per the example given in the email of Sreenadh

responding to Kiran.Rama.

 

The answer in your query is very clear if you were to follow the steps

detailed in the referred email

 

See from Moon chart, take the sign lord, see his navamsha conjunct

planets.....you have everything there...answered.....you may add the

dasha to know more.....

 

with regards,

 

sreeram_srinivas

 

 

, " Chakraborty, PL "

<CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:

 

Dear Sreenadh-ji,

Following are the details.

 

DOB : October 6, 1976

TOB : 13:30 hrs (+/- 5 min)

Kolkata, 88 E 22, 22N34,

And he insists that 10H has Ma+Ve+Ra in

his original Kundli at home.

 

He is a Metallurgical engr, worked for 1.5 yrs in

Hindustan Motors (ambassador car factory)

and then IOCL (Sept 2000-07 Jul).

 

Regards

 

Chakraborty

Sreenadh [sreesog]

Wednesday, December 26, 2007 9:33 AM

Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the

native

 

Dear Chakraborty ji,

First thig first - provide the date of birth with time and location.

Let

me see the chart and then I will reply.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

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For career:

10H from Lagna has Venus, Mars, Rahu

10H from Sun has no planets

10H from Moon no planets

 

So Venus, Mars and Rahu can indicate career.

10H from Lagna is Thula and Venus its lord is in Meena in Navamsa lord

of which is Jupiter

 

So planets that can indicate career are:

i) Venus - poets/literary activities, serving a woman, singing, dancing

ii) mars - metals, lands, spying/theft, association with wicked men

iii) Jupiter - by way of his learning

 

Using True ayanamsa of Chandrahari started from the moon, your friend

is currently running Mercury MD, Venus AD (between 2005 Apr and 2008 Feb)

 

Mercury is lord of 6H in sustana and this should indicate freedom from

debt/defeating enemies but malefic Sun with Mercury has destroyed the

good effects resulting from 6H is sustana and given the malefic Sun

nature to the house

 

10H Lord Venus is in sustana in his own house - however there is

malefic mars, rahu with him and ketu aspecting - this will destroy

whatever good is signified by the 10H. So Venus will take on role of

malefic Mars/rahu/ketu causing troubles.

 

So very bad till 2008 Feb - This is followed by Sun PD and Sun

alongwith Mercury gives the Viparita raja yoga here and you may see

that the friend suddenly rises between 2008 Feb and 2008 Dec

 

Request Sreenadhji, Sreeramji and other learned folks to correct my

reading

 

Regards

Kiran

 

, " sreeram srinivas "

<sreeram64 wrote:

>

>

> Dear Chakraborthy,

>

> Kindly work out as per the example given in the email of Sreenadh

> responding to Kiran.Rama.

>

> The answer in your query is very clear if you were to follow the steps

> detailed in the referred email

>

> See from Moon chart, take the sign lord, see his navamsha conjunct

> planets.....you have everything there...answered.....you may add the

> dasha to know more.....

>

> with regards,

>

> sreeram_srinivas

>

>

> , " Chakraborty, PL "

> <CHAKRABORTYP2@> wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadh-ji,

> Following are the details.

>

> DOB : October 6, 1976

> TOB : 13:30 hrs (+/- 5 min)

> Kolkata, 88 E 22, 22N34,

> And he insists that 10H has Ma+Ve+Ra in

> his original Kundli at home.

>

> He is a Metallurgical engr, worked for 1.5 yrs in

> Hindustan Motors (ambassador car factory)

> and then IOCL (Sept 2000-07 Jul).

>

> Regards

>

> Chakraborty

>

> Sreenadh [sreesog@]

> Wednesday, December 26, 2007 9:33 AM

>

> Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the

> native

>

> Dear Chakraborty ji,

> First thig first - provide the date of birth with time and location.

> Let

> me see the chart and then I will reply.

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

>

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Dear forum members,

 

This is the chart

 

Ascendant - Cp - empty. Moon in 2H, Ketu in 4H (aries),

Jup (retro) in 5H (taurus), Sat in 7H (Cn), Mer+Sun in 9H

(Virgo), Ve+Ma+Rahu in 10H (Libra).

 

I am a novice here. And this was my reasoning on June'07.

Please note that I knew many more details as we were close

 

Mercury is lord of 6H and 9H. And it will act out both

the roles.

 

My understanding was / is (correct me pl) the planet will

act like 6H lord for some of time and later act like 9H lord.

 

In initial years (1999-2007) of Me MD, it acted more like 6H lord

and hence had lots of trouble in office and ill-health of parents.

And relation with bosses was too bad. (He has a sharp tongue).

 

Now I expect Mercury to act like 9H lord and give

good results.

 

Sun, although 8H lord, will not act as malefic.

I have come across discussions which suggest

that traditional 8H lord rule does not apply to Sun.

And Sun being conjunct with Mercury (1-1 relationship)

and Budhaditya yoga will not be bad. However, Sun may

make him wander in deserts / jungles etc.in its AD/MD

 

Rahu may not be bad for Cp ascendant. It is also

co-lord of 2H. And it will absorb the quality of

friendly Venus (10H lord). However, Mars is also

there and may make him some strong-headed. I do

not consider aspect of Ketu (Ketu is blind)

 

As ascendant and 2H lord saturn has a strong

role in career, it is not surprising he is an engr.

I guess Saturn also gives engg career.

 

And here in earlier job, he had to put lots of

physical effort - again characteristic of saturn. And

some touch of Jup - consultation type on engg problem.

 

I had advised him not to resign based on my

understanding - that role of Mer as 6H lord

may not be over before Feb'08. On hindsight,

it appears that Saturn PD (Sat in 7H -independent

career / no service ) made him resign.

 

My guess is - He will remain in foreign countries

in Mer MD as well as in Sat MD. And one more guess

is - Saturn as 2H lord and in parivartan with Moon in

2H will give some tides/ebbs in his financial condition,

although the overall tenor is quite good.

 

I request forum members to criticize and rectify my

way of dealing with it.

 

With regards

 

Chakraborty

 

kiran.rama [kiran.rama]Wednesday, December 26, 2007 11:47 PM Subject: Re: Job of the native

 

For career:10H from Lagna has Venus, Mars, Rahu10H from Sun has no planets10H from Moon no planetsSo Venus, Mars and Rahu can indicate career.10H from Lagna is Thula and Venus its lord is in Meena in Navamsa lordof which is JupiterSo planets that can indicate career are:i) Venus - poets/literary activities, serving a woman, singing, dancingii) mars - metals, lands, spying/theft, association with wicked men iii) Jupiter - by way of his learningUsing True ayanamsa of Chandrahari started from the moon, your friendis currently running Mercury MD, Venus AD (between 2005 Apr and 2008 Feb) Mercury is lord of 6H in sustana and this should indicate freedom fromdebt/defeating enemies but malefic Sun with Mercury has destroyed thegood effects resulting from 6H is sustana and given the malefic Sunnature to the house10H Lord Venus is in sustana in his own house - however there ismalefic mars, rahu with him and ketu aspecting - this will destroywhatever good is signified by the 10H. So Venus will take on role ofmalefic Mars/rahu/ketu causing troubles.So very bad till 2008 Feb - This is followed by Sun PD and Sunalongwith Mercury gives the Viparita raja yoga here and you may seethat the friend suddenly rises between 2008 Feb and 2008 DecRequest Sreenadhji, Sreeramji and other learned folks to correct myreadingRegardsKiran , "sreeram srinivas"<sreeram64 wrote:>> > Dear Chakraborthy,> > Kindly work out as per the example given in the email of Sreenadh> responding to Kiran.Rama.> > The answer in your query is very clear if you were to follow the steps> detailed in the referred email> > See from Moon chart, take the sign lord, see his navamsha conjunct> planets.....you have everything there...answered.....you may add the> dasha to know more.....> > with regards,> > sreeram_srinivas> > > , "Chakraborty, PL"> <CHAKRABORTYP2@> wrote:> > Dear Sreenadh-ji,> Following are the details.> > DOB : October 6, 1976> TOB : 13:30 hrs (+/- 5 min)> Kolkata, 88 E 22, 22N34,> And he insists that 10H has Ma+Ve+Ra in> his original Kundli at home.> > He is a Metallurgical engr, worked for 1.5 yrs in> Hindustan Motors (ambassador car factory)> and then IOCL (Sept 2000-07 Jul).> > Regards> > Chakraborty> > Sreenadh [sreesog@]> Wednesday, December 26, 2007 9:33 AM> > Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the> native> > Dear Chakraborty ji,> First thig first - provide the date of birth with time and location.> Let> me see the chart and then I will reply.> Love and regards,> Sreenadh>This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments.

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Dear Krishanji,

 

Ever since Shreenadh discussed the way job / career could be

predicted i have cocked up my ears. Just saw the quiz and the answer

u have given and am now trying to piece things together on a

posteriori basis which in any case is an easy thing to do.

 

Isn't there some connection between Mars and Saturn for law as a

profession either thru the house of income or wealth or the 10th and

6th houses??? My sample is very limited but i will share a chart

with u of a person (female) who is studying law and will hopefully

soon be in this profession.

 

When i studied this chart i found that there was a mars connection.

though mars is probably associated with army/police or even doctors

(because doctors are involved in surgical operations /

blood???)...could it also be associated with law because lawyers

handle disputes?

 

Coming back to the chart, exalted and swakshetra mercury is conjunct

with MArs. When 2 planets are conjunct, do they not transfer some of

their properties to the other? So doesn't Mars too become a strong

planet and that too in the house of wealth? Retro Saturn is in its

own house and therefore strong in 6th...the house of enemies as well

as service. Saturn is also karaka of 12 house of imprisonment/

separation...(now aren't lawyers instrumental in putting people in

jail / getting them punished?) Besides, Rahu is exalted in the house

of income...showing gains from lying/deception???(i know i am

indulging imagination). Maybe all successful lawyers should have a

strong rahu, i.e., exalted or in kendra?).

 

What i am not able to figure out is the Venus connection in the 10th

house. But going by the principle that Shreenadh gave (which i may

not have understood completely), if there is no planet in the 10th

in rasi one should see which is the sign in which the Lord of the

10th is placed in Navamsa and then relate that with the rasi. In

this case Venus, the lord of 10th in rasi, is placed in the house of

Mercury with Sun...Mercury is with Mars in Rasi...So once again

there is a Mars connection.

 

I have heard that the Sun and Venus connection is related to fine

arts / music. Here Sun and Venus are together in Navamsa as well as

in Rasi and that too in Leo the house of Sun. So, as u have

mentioned the person is interested in music.

 

Sun and venus are together in dasamsa as well...but i don't know how

this is connected with profession. Maybe its an obsessive hobby /

interest which is being purued by the native, or is the wife a very

good singer??? Is the wife famous too because of the connection with

Sun? Or the native is very proud of his wife???

 

The 10th house of dasamsa is ruled by Jupiter and Jupiter is exalted

in 5th house of higher studies. Is the native a lawyer who has now

become a judge or is involved in monumental judgements??? (is he

harish salve, by any chance...???...i am just " maroing tukka " )

 

i find the chart extremely interesting for the following reasons.

There are 2 exalted planets in rasi (if one considers Gemini to be

the exaltation sign for Rahu) and 4 swakshetra planets. So it must

be the chart of a very well known / famous personality. The other

very unusual thing is that 4 planets, i.e., Moon, Mars, Jupiter and

Saturn, share exactly the SAME DEGREE. This makes the chart very

very unique!!!

 

Could we collect some more charts of lawyers to see if Mars-Saturn-

Rahu and Jupiter are somehow connected with this profession thru

2nd, 11th, 10th, 6th and 12th houses???

 

As for the chart of a person who is training to be a lawyer here are

the details as promised.(27-12-1986; 6.50 a.m.; Kolkata)

 

warm regards and best wishes,

vinita

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Dear Vinita ji,

 

If you are interested the following is the horoscope of a girl

studying Law in a prestigious university in Australia. A brilliant

student..

 

March 13, 1986 @ 8.30 AM in Sri Jayawardhanapura, Sri Lanka.

 

You can add this to your collection of budding lawyers :)

 

blessings

 

Renu

 

 

 

, " vinita kumar "

<shankar_mamta wrote:

>

> Dear Krishanji,

>

> Ever since Shreenadh discussed the way job / career could be

> predicted i have cocked up my ears. Just saw the quiz and the

answer

> u have given and am now trying to piece things together on a

> posteriori basis which in any case is an easy thing to do.

>

> Isn't there some connection between Mars and Saturn for law as a

> profession either thru the house of income or wealth or the 10th

and

> 6th houses??? My sample is very limited but i will share a chart

> with u of a person (female) who is studying law and will hopefully

> soon be in this profession.

>

> When i studied this chart i found that there was a mars

connection.

> though mars is probably associated with army/police or even

doctors

> (because doctors are involved in surgical operations /

> blood???)...could it also be associated with law because lawyers

> handle disputes?

>

> Coming back to the chart, exalted and swakshetra mercury is

conjunct

> with MArs. When 2 planets are conjunct, do they not transfer some

of

> their properties to the other? So doesn't Mars too become a strong

> planet and that too in the house of wealth? Retro Saturn is in its

> own house and therefore strong in 6th...the house of enemies as

well

> as service. Saturn is also karaka of 12 house of imprisonment/

> separation...(now aren't lawyers instrumental in putting people in

> jail / getting them punished?) Besides, Rahu is exalted in the

house

> of income...showing gains from lying/deception???(i know i am

> indulging imagination). Maybe all successful lawyers should have a

> strong rahu, i.e., exalted or in kendra?).

>

> What i am not able to figure out is the Venus connection in the

10th

> house. But going by the principle that Shreenadh gave (which i may

> not have understood completely), if there is no planet in the 10th

> in rasi one should see which is the sign in which the Lord of the

> 10th is placed in Navamsa and then relate that with the rasi. In

> this case Venus, the lord of 10th in rasi, is placed in the house

of

> Mercury with Sun...Mercury is with Mars in Rasi...So once again

> there is a Mars connection.

>

> I have heard that the Sun and Venus connection is related to fine

> arts / music. Here Sun and Venus are together in Navamsa as well

as

> in Rasi and that too in Leo the house of Sun. So, as u have

> mentioned the person is interested in music.

>

> Sun and venus are together in dasamsa as well...but i don't know

how

> this is connected with profession. Maybe its an obsessive hobby /

> interest which is being purued by the native, or is the wife a

very

> good singer??? Is the wife famous too because of the connection

with

> Sun? Or the native is very proud of his wife???

>

> The 10th house of dasamsa is ruled by Jupiter and Jupiter is

exalted

> in 5th house of higher studies. Is the native a lawyer who has now

> become a judge or is involved in monumental judgements??? (is he

> harish salve, by any chance...???...i am just " maroing tukka " )

>

> i find the chart extremely interesting for the following reasons.

> There are 2 exalted planets in rasi (if one considers Gemini to be

> the exaltation sign for Rahu) and 4 swakshetra planets. So it must

> be the chart of a very well known / famous personality. The other

> very unusual thing is that 4 planets, i.e., Moon, Mars, Jupiter

and

> Saturn, share exactly the SAME DEGREE. This makes the chart very

> very unique!!!

>

> Could we collect some more charts of lawyers to see if Mars-Saturn-

> Rahu and Jupiter are somehow connected with this profession thru

> 2nd, 11th, 10th, 6th and 12th houses???

>

> As for the chart of a person who is training to be a lawyer here

are

> the details as promised.(27-12-1986; 6.50 a.m.; Kolkata)

>

> warm regards and best wishes,

> vinita

>

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Dear Vinita ji, My understanding is that Mars is also associated with law as it is a karaka for 6th house along with saturn. As you have rightly pointed out, same Mars can indicate many things, like surgery, police/military etc. What is interesting in the given chart is the exact samasaptaka placement of Jupiter and Mars that gives a strong hint as to the native's profession could be in law. Again, Mars gets the importance as it is associated and disposited by a strong Mercury who points to the profession of the native. You said "Coming back to the chart, exalted and swakshetra mercury is conjunct with Mars. When 2 planets are conjunct, do they not transfer some of their properties to the other?" In fact, that is what I have pointed out in my Answer Mail. I am not sure why are asking this question. In the

given chart, I agree with your observation on Saturn. But, on Rahu - I understand that Rahu is exalted in Taurus and not in Gemini. It would be good to have an exalted Rahu for this profession. But, I am not sure if it should be mandetory. I have not confirmed that the native is inclined towards art or music. I said that, I don't see that trait as he does not have any time for such luxuries. He is totally drowned in his profession. I would like to confirm that he is not pursuing any hobby like singing and neither his wife is a good singer. Just to give one more similar placement, I have Leo lagna as well with Sun and Venus together in lagna. I also don't have any skill in singing, though I love to be a good singer. I envy those great singers. My knowledge of basics of music is NIL. I can only appreciate good music. It might be similar in his case as well. Yes, it is a good observation on your part to

notice that 4 planets are on the same degree. But, I can see the connection only between Jupiter and Mars and not with the other two. So, I am not sure how to interpret 4 planets being on the same degree. You are right that 4 planets are in swakshetra. I can only say that he is not a famous personality yet. Thanks for sharing your views on this chart and sharing a chart of a budding lawyer. I don't have many charts of lawyers in my database. It gives me one more now. Thanks. Regards, Krishna vinita kumar <shankar_mamta wrote: Dear Krishanji,Ever since Shreenadh discussed the way job / career could be predicted i have cocked up my ears. Just saw the quiz and the answer u have given and am now trying to piece things together on a posteriori basis which in any case is an easy thing to do.Isn't there some connection between Mars and Saturn for law as a profession either thru the house of income or wealth or the 10th and 6th houses??? My sample is very limited but i will share a chart with u of a person (female) who is studying law and will hopefully soon be in this profession.When i studied this chart i found that there was a mars connection. though mars is probably associated with army/police or even doctors (because doctors are involved in surgical operations / blood???)...could it also be associated with

law because lawyers handle disputes? Coming back to the chart, exalted and swakshetra mercury is conjunct with MArs. When 2 planets are conjunct, do they not transfer some of their properties to the other? So doesn't Mars too become a strong planet and that too in the house of wealth? Retro Saturn is in its own house and therefore strong in 6th...the house of enemies as well as service. Saturn is also karaka of 12 house of imprisonment/ separation...(now aren't lawyers instrumental in putting people in jail / getting them punished?) Besides, Rahu is exalted in the house of income...showing gains from lying/deception???(i know i am indulging imagination). Maybe all successful lawyers should have a strong rahu, i.e., exalted or in kendra?).What i am not able to figure out is the Venus connection in the 10th house. But going by the principle that Shreenadh gave (which i may not have understood

completely), if there is no planet in the 10th in rasi one should see which is the sign in which the Lord of the 10th is placed in Navamsa and then relate that with the rasi. In this case Venus, the lord of 10th in rasi, is placed in the house of Mercury with Sun...Mercury is with Mars in Rasi...So once again there is a Mars connection. I have heard that the Sun and Venus connection is related to fine arts / music. Here Sun and Venus are together in Navamsa as well as in Rasi and that too in Leo the house of Sun. So, as u have mentioned the person is interested in music.Sun and venus are together in dasamsa as well...but i don't know how this is connected with profession. Maybe its an obsessive hobby / interest which is being purued by the native, or is the wife a very good singer??? Is the wife famous too because of the connection with Sun? Or the native is very proud of his wife???The 10th house of

dasamsa is ruled by Jupiter and Jupiter is exalted in 5th house of higher studies. Is the native a lawyer who has now become a judge or is involved in monumental judgements??? (is he harish salve, by any chance...???...i am just "maroing tukka")i find the chart extremely interesting for the following reasons. There are 2 exalted planets in rasi (if one considers Gemini to be the exaltation sign for Rahu) and 4 swakshetra planets. So it must be the chart of a very well known / famous personality. The other very unusual thing is that 4 planets, i.e., Moon, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn, share exactly the SAME DEGREE. This makes the chart very very unique!!!Could we collect some more charts of lawyers to see if Mars-Saturn-Rahu and Jupiter are somehow connected with this profession thru 2nd, 11th, 10th, 6th and 12th houses??? As for the chart of a person who is training to be a lawyer here are the

details as promised.(27-12-1986; 6.50 a.m.; Kolkata)warm regards and best wishes,vinita

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Dear Vinita ji, That was a very interesting and truly informative mail. :) ==>> Isn't there some connection between Mars and Saturn for law as a > profession<== Yes, me too felt the same, when I studied the chart based on the background of sage quotes for multi-planet conjunctions/interactions; and I feel like totally agreeing with you. ==>> When 2 planets are conjunct, do they not transfer some of > their properties to the other?<== Yes.==>> Sun and Venus are together ........... is the wife a very > good singer??? <== That is a very natural and intuitive question to ask! :)==>> i find the chart extremely interesting for the following reasons. > There are 2 exalted planets in rasi (if one considers Gemini to be > the exaltation sign for Rahu) and 4 swakshetra planets. So it must > be the chart of a very well known / famous personality. The other > very unusual thing is that 4 planets, i.e., Moon, Mars, Jupiter and > Saturn, share exactly the SAME DEGREE. This makes the chart very > very unique!!!<== That truly remarkable observations - especially the one about "4 planets in same degree".==>> Could we collect some more charts of lawyers to see if Mars-Saturn-> Rahu and Jupiter are somehow connected with this profession thru > 2nd, 11th, 10th, 6th and 12th houses??? > > As for the chart of a person who is training to be a lawyer here are > the details as promised.(27-12-1986; 6.50 a.m.; Kolkata)<== Good suggestion - let us go after the "case" of lawyers :=)Love and regards,Sreenadh , "vinita kumar" <shankar_mamta wrote:>> Dear Krishanji,> > Ever since Shreenadh discussed the way job / career could be > predicted i have cocked up my ears. Just saw the quiz and the answer > u have given and am now trying to piece things together on a > posteriori basis which in any case is an easy thing to do.> > Isn't there some connection between Mars and Saturn for law as a > profession either thru the house of income or wealth or the 10th and > 6th houses??? My sample is very limited but i will share a chart > with u of a person (female) who is studying law and will hopefully > soon be in this profession.> > When i studied this chart i found that there was a mars connection. > though mars is probably associated with army/police or even doctors > (because doctors are involved in surgical operations / > blood???)...could it also be associated with law because lawyers > handle disputes? > > Coming back to the chart, exalted and swakshetra mercury is conjunct > with MArs. When 2 planets are conjunct, do they not transfer some of > their properties to the other? So doesn't Mars too become a strong > planet and that too in the house of wealth? Retro Saturn is in its > own house and therefore strong in 6th...the house of enemies as well > as service. Saturn is also karaka of 12 house of imprisonment/ > separation...(now aren't lawyers instrumental in putting people in > jail / getting them punished?) Besides, Rahu is exalted in the house > of income...showing gains from lying/deception???(i know i am > indulging imagination). Maybe all successful lawyers should have a > strong rahu, i.e., exalted or in kendra?).> > What i am not able to figure out is the Venus connection in the 10th > house. But going by the principle that Shreenadh gave (which i may > not have understood completely), if there is no planet in the 10th > in rasi one should see which is the sign in which the Lord of the > 10th is placed in Navamsa and then relate that with the rasi. In > this case Venus, the lord of 10th in rasi, is placed in the house of > Mercury with Sun...Mercury is with Mars in Rasi...So once again > there is a Mars connection. > > I have heard that the Sun and Venus connection is related to fine > arts / music. Here Sun and Venus are together in Navamsa as well as > in Rasi and that too in Leo the house of Sun. So, as u have > mentioned the person is interested in music.> > Sun and venus are together in dasamsa as well...but i don't know how > this is connected with profession. Maybe its an obsessive hobby / > interest which is being purued by the native, or is the wife a very > good singer??? Is the wife famous too because of the connection with > Sun? Or the native is very proud of his wife???> > The 10th house of dasamsa is ruled by Jupiter and Jupiter is exalted > in 5th house of higher studies. Is the native a lawyer who has now > become a judge or is involved in monumental judgements??? (is he > harish salve, by any chance...???...i am just "maroing tukka")> > i find the chart extremely interesting for the following reasons. > There are 2 exalted planets in rasi (if one considers Gemini to be > the exaltation sign for Rahu) and 4 swakshetra planets. So it must > be the chart of a very well known / famous personality. The other > very unusual thing is that 4 planets, i.e., Moon, Mars, Jupiter and > Saturn, share exactly the SAME DEGREE. This makes the chart very > very unique!!!> > Could we collect some more charts of lawyers to see if Mars-Saturn-> Rahu and Jupiter are somehow connected with this profession thru > 2nd, 11th, 10th, 6th and 12th houses??? > > As for the chart of a person who is training to be a lawyer here are > the details as promised.(27-12-1986; 6.50 a.m.; Kolkata)> > warm regards and best wishes,> vinita>

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