Reason for Divorce/ Job of the native

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Dear Remesh ji,==>> Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> prediction.<== I totally agree with the above statement of yours. ==>> What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> servant ? I could not find it out till now?<== That is some thing cute, and because of that statement I got interested in the said horoscope. I hope the following is the birth details under discussion. ==>> > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> 46, 84 E 23> > INDIA.<== One of the major method to determine the job of a native is "Karmesasya Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida" (Phaladeepika) meaning, "the job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa lord of the 10th house lord from Natal lagna" In the said horoscope, Lagna is Leo, 10th house is Tarus (with Ra in it), 10th lord is Ve. The navamsa of Ve falls in Scorpio and Ve is situated in Lagna Leo itself. Thus - Karmesa = Ve Karmesasya navamsa rasipa = lord of Scorpio = Ma. Thus Mars is should signify the job of the native in the said horoscope. With the 10th lord Ve in Leo (lord of Leo Sun is the significator of Government) and also with Mars as the significator of the job it no wonder that the native "is a govt, servant and that to0 in armed forces". Hope the methodology and explanation is clear.Love and regards,Sreenadh , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:>> Dear Jyothi Ji,> Namaskar,> I do appreciate your comments.> I am not biased to any system.> But ofcourse, I give priority no.1 to KAS.> Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> prediction.> I have experienced VA more complicated and confusing> for timing any event.> Now as for the chart, the native's married life is not> ok and sometimes there is querrelling among them and> the situation becomes so nasty both of them becomes> ready to divorce but after few hours everything comes> to normal and they live together happily for months> together.> Nobody knows when the happy situation will take turn.> As far as I know native never faced depression.> He never went abroad and no chances in future also> because his financial condition is not so strong.> He has been mostly visiting many places in India.> He took birth in a small village but after 4 years of> birth he never stayed in his birth place .> As I have stated in my mail he is a govt,servant and> that to in armed forces.> What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> servant ? > I could not find it out till now?> Thanks and regards.> Ramesh Mishra > > --- jyothi_b_lakshmi jyothi_b_lakshmi wrote:> > > Dear Sir,> > > > When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal> > importance to 6th > > lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing> > divorce. I do not > > know why you overlooked what I said about 6th lord> > aspecting 7th and > > tried to negate my reasoning by emphasising on 7th> > lord in 12th. May > > be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt> > like putting down > > what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying> > reasoning by KAS > > alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying> > to integrate the > > working points from all systems and trying to apply> > them for my > > learning. I am trying to pick up the best and> > plausible clues from > > all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying> > to learn from > > them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much.> > Whatever methods > > we follow, all must lead to the same results, that> > is what astrology > > must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody> > can create their > > own branches of this divine science and destroy it.> > So please do not > > try to crucify me at the first instance. > > > > Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot> > create an event. My > > sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not> > divorced, > > (Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is> > in 12th it need > > not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a> > friendly sign can > > modify the effects, can be just separation, husband> > staying away due > > to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord> > can modify the > > effects. A lot of other factors need to be> > considered. I am not a > > pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings> > from whatever I > > have read so far. Anyways I do believe that position> > of 7th lord in > > 12th does negatively affect marital harmony. This> > what I have > > observed.> > > > Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and> > 12th lord Moon are > > in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon> > being in its own > > sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th.> > The negative > > effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord> > saturn with moon in > > 12th, taking into account the opposite nature of> > these planets, their > > life can be very cold and indifferent without any> > emotions towards > > each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with> > legal issues, court > > cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce)> > effects of saturn > > is less when compared with 7th house effects because> > 7th (Aquarius) > > is the moola trikona of saturn. What I have> > understood is if a planet > > owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona, the result> > of moola trikona > > predominates. So again the chances of staying> > together gains weight > > than getting legally separated. > > > > Viewing in another angle, without considering the> > exchange efects, > > let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna> > lord. As per what I > > know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive> > results to the houses > > he is associated with by means of position, aspect,> > association with > > lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna> > lord tries to > > impart positive results for 7th as it is in> > conjunction with 7th > > lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being together> > shows the native > > and his partner trying to stick together> > irrespective of the > > differences. > > These are the reasons I can find with my minimal> > knowledge. If I am > > wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I> > think this > > person's married life is as good as separated. > > > > For my learning, can you please let me know the> > personlity of this > > person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily> > depressed? Also > > was he always in his native place or did he go> > abroad any time? Does > > he have any serious health problems?> > > > > > Regards,> > Jyothi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ,> > ramesh mishra > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Jyothi, Ash and all,> > > I give you one chart of a male native who is> > closely related to > > me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and 2nd> > lord occupy 12th > > house.> > > According to the verdict of Jyothi he should> > have divorced his > > spouse> > > because of 7th lord in 12th.> > > In fact it is not so. They married 38 years> > before and still > > living together.No doubt there married life is hell> > but staying > > together.> > > Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he> > was not > > divorced ?> > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N > > 46, 84 E 23> > > INDIA.> > > He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters.> > > He served in defence forces in IAF and took> > volunteerly > > retirement after doing service in armed forces.> > > Again after two years of retirement he got a job> > in central > > government.> > > Between this period of two years, he was not> > jobless.He has been > > doing job in a private co.> > > If she can analyse it will be good learning for> > us.> > > Thanks and regards.> > > Ramesh Mishra> > > Ash kas@ wrote:> > > Dear Jyothi,> > > > > > Here 2 laws of KAS are matching.> > > > > > 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt.> > > 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and> > aspecting 7th > > house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa.> > > 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8> > points, and such > > marriages will break in highest power planet so> > dasha of Saturn when > > it came it will break the marriage. > > > 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3> > zeroes in SAV. > > Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house.> > > > > > 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn,> > will stick to > > her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so> > difference is much > > more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons,> > ego are very > > fragile. > > > > > > Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of> > Ju and breaks in > > Ju. As per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws> > of KAS i.e. > > Marriage in lowest power planet will break in> > Highest power planet of > > 6th or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is> > very powerful, > > being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E> > along with Karak > > i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the chart. > > > > > > Marriage in 6th lord's antra which is only 8> > points in 7th house > > and breaks in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th> > house > === message truncated ===> > > > > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Go to http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php>

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Shreenadh, i can only say WOW!!!

 

tried to check this with the chart of another native who is a govt.

servant. The lagna is Taurus, so the 10th lord is Saturn. In

Navamsa, Saturn is in the amsa of Saggi while Jupiter in natal chart

is conjoined with the Sun. Did i follow the steps correctly?

 

, " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Remesh ji,

> ==>

> > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct

> > prediction.

> <==

> I totally agree with the above statement of yours.

> ==>

> > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt

> > servant ? I could not find it out till now?

> <==

> That is some thing cute, and because of that statement I got

> interested in the said horoscope. I hope the following is the

birth

> details under discussion.

> ==>

> > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB

> > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N

> > 46, 84 E 23

> > > INDIA.

> <==

> One of the major method to determine the job of a native

is " Karmesasya

> Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida " (Phaladeepika)

meaning, " the

> job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa lord

of the

> 10th house lord from Natal lagna "

> In the said horoscope, Lagna is Leo, 10th house is Tarus (with

Ra in

> it), 10th lord is Ve. The navamsa of Ve falls in Scorpio and Ve is

> situated in Lagna Leo itself. Thus -

> Karmesa = Ve

> Karmesasya navamsa rasipa = lord of Scorpio = Ma.

> Thus Mars is should signify the job of the native in the said

> horoscope. With the 10th lord Ve in Leo (lord of Leo Sun is the

> significator of Government) and also with Mars as the significator

of

> the job it no wonder that the native " is a govt, servant and that

to0 in

> armed forces " .

> Hope the methodology and explanation is clear.

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

>

> , ramesh mishra

> <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jyothi Ji,

> > Namaskar,

> > I do appreciate your comments.

> > I am not biased to any system.

> > But ofcourse, I give priority no.1 to KAS.

> > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct

> > prediction.

> > I have experienced VA more complicated and confusing

> > for timing any event.

> > Now as for the chart, the native's married life is not

> > ok and sometimes there is querrelling among them and

> > the situation becomes so nasty both of them becomes

> > ready to divorce but after few hours everything comes

> > to normal and they live together happily for months

> > together.

> > Nobody knows when the happy situation will take turn.

> > As far as I know native never faced depression.

> > He never went abroad and no chances in future also

> > because his financial condition is not so strong.

> > He has been mostly visiting many places in India.

> > He took birth in a small village but after 4 years of

> > birth he never stayed in his birth place .

> > As I have stated in my mail he is a govt,servant and

> > that to in armed forces.

> > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt

> > servant ?

> > I could not find it out till now?

> > Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> >

> > --- jyothi_b_lakshmi jyothi_b_lakshmi@

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Sir,

> > >

> > > When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal

> > > importance to 6th

> > > lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing

> > > divorce. I do not

> > > know why you overlooked what I said about 6th lord

> > > aspecting 7th and

> > > tried to negate my reasoning by emphasising on 7th

> > > lord in 12th. May

> > > be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt

> > > like putting down

> > > what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying

> > > reasoning by KAS

> > > alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying

> > > to integrate the

> > > working points from all systems and trying to apply

> > > them for my

> > > learning. I am trying to pick up the best and

> > > plausible clues from

> > > all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying

> > > to learn from

> > > them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much.

> > > Whatever methods

> > > we follow, all must lead to the same results, that

> > > is what astrology

> > > must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody

> > > can create their

> > > own branches of this divine science and destroy it.

> > > So please do not

> > > try to crucify me at the first instance.

> > >

> > > Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot

> > > create an event. My

> > > sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not

> > > divorced,

> > > (Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is

> > > in 12th it need

> > > not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a

> > > friendly sign can

> > > modify the effects, can be just separation, husband

> > > staying away due

> > > to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord

> > > can modify the

> > > effects. A lot of other factors need to be

> > > considered. I am not a

> > > pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings

> > > from whatever I

> > > have read so far. Anyways I do believe that position

> > > of 7th lord in

> > > 12th does negatively affect marital harmony. This

> > > what I have

> > > observed.

> > >

> > > Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and

> > > 12th lord Moon are

> > > in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon

> > > being in its own

> > > sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th.

> > > The negative

> > > effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord

> > > saturn with moon in

> > > 12th, taking into account the opposite nature of

> > > these planets, their

> > > life can be very cold and indifferent without any

> > > emotions towards

> > > each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with

> > > legal issues, court

> > > cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce)

> > > effects of saturn

> > > is less when compared with 7th house effects because

> > > 7th (Aquarius)

> > > is the moola trikona of saturn. What I have

> > > understood is if a planet

> > > owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona, the result

> > > of moola trikona

> > > predominates. So again the chances of staying

> > > together gains weight

> > > than getting legally separated.

> > >

> > > Viewing in another angle, without considering the

> > > exchange efects,

> > > let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna

> > > lord. As per what I

> > > know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive

> > > results to the houses

> > > he is associated with by means of position, aspect,

> > > association with

> > > lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna

> > > lord tries to

> > > impart positive results for 7th as it is in

> > > conjunction with 7th

> > > lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being together

> > > shows the native

> > > and his partner trying to stick together

> > > irrespective of the

> > > differences.

> > > These are the reasons I can find with my minimal

> > > knowledge. If I am

> > > wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I

> > > think this

> > > person's married life is as good as separated.

> > >

> > > For my learning, can you please let me know the

> > > personlity of this

> > > person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily

> > > depressed? Also

> > > was he always in his native place or did he go

> > > abroad any time? Does

> > > he have any serious health problems?

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Jyothi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ,

> > > ramesh mishra

> > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Jyothi, Ash and all,

> > > > I give you one chart of a male native who is

> > > closely related to

> > > me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and 2nd

> > > lord occupy 12th

> > > house.

> > > > According to the verdict of Jyothi he should

> > > have divorced his

> > > spouse

> > > > because of 7th lord in 12th.

> > > > In fact it is not so. They married 38 years

> > > before and still

> > > living together.No doubt there married life is hell

> > > but staying

> > > together.

> > > > Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he

> > > was not

> > > divorced ?

> > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB

> > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N

> > > 46, 84 E 23

> > > > INDIA.

> > > > He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters.

> > > > He served in defence forces in IAF and took

> > > volunteerly

> > > retirement after doing service in armed forces.

> > > > Again after two years of retirement he got a job

> > > in central

> > > government.

> > > > Between this period of two years, he was not

> > > jobless.He has been

> > > doing job in a private co.

> > > > If she can analyse it will be good learning for

> > > us.

> > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > Ash kas@ wrote:

> > > > Dear Jyothi,

> > > >

> > > > Here 2 laws of KAS are matching.

> > > >

> > > > 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt.

> > > > 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and

> > > aspecting 7th

> > > house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa.

> > > > 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8

> > > points, and such

> > > marriages will break in highest power planet so

> > > dasha of Saturn when

> > > it came it will break the marriage.

> > > > 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3

> > > zeroes in SAV.

> > > Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house.

> > > >

> > > > 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn,

> > > will stick to

> > > her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so

> > > difference is much

> > > more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons,

> > > ego are very

> > > fragile.

> > > >

> > > > Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of

> > > Ju and breaks in

> > > Ju. As per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws

> > > of KAS i.e.

> > > Marriage in lowest power planet will break in

> > > Highest power planet of

> > > 6th or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is

> > > very powerful,

> > > being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E

> > > along with Karak

> > > i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the chart.

> > > >

> > > > Marriage in 6th lord's antra which is only 8

> > > points in 7th house

> > > and breaks in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th

> > > house

> > === message truncated ===

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php

> >

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Dear Vinita ji, Lol....! That won't work always.. Note that "it is one of the methods" But still, when I say so, I should clarify some of the other possibilities as well. 1) Income should be predicted based on the significance of the planet present in 10th House from Lagna, Moon, or Sun. i.e. First check whether there is a planet in 10th from Lagna, if not check whether there is a planet in 10th from Moon, if not check whether there is a planet in 10th from Sun. The said planet will provide income (job) based on its significance at some point of time for sure. (Yes, proper Dasa or Antara can be considered) 2) The benefic planets in 11-2-Lagna will provide income from different sources during their corresponding Dasa-Antara. Thus Job could be related to this as well in the corresponding periods. 3) The Navamsa lord of the 10 HL can indicate the job. (But try using it only after seeing the possibilities indicated by the first two) Note that in the said horoscope, the first choice was not applicable due to the absence of planets in 10th. Even the Ra in 10th was supposed to give the result fo Venus the 10th lord from Lagna and Moon (Lagna and Moon was in Leo). Thus I went for the Navamsa lord of the 10th House and that was Mars - clearly explaining why the job was as a government servant, that too in army. Note: Do you see some lesson from the above note? ;)Love and regards,Sreenadh , "vinita kumar" <shankar_mamta wrote:>> Shreenadh, i can only say WOW!!!> > tried to check this with the chart of another native who is a govt. > servant. The lagna is Taurus, so the 10th lord is Saturn. In > Navamsa, Saturn is in the amsa of Saggi while Jupiter in natal chart > is conjoined with the Sun. Did i follow the steps correctly? > > , "Sreenadh" > sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear Remesh ji,> > ==>> > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > prediction.> > <==> > I totally agree with the above statement of yours. > > ==>> > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > servant ? I could not find it out till now?> > <==> > That is some thing cute, and because of that statement I got> > interested in the said horoscope. I hope the following is the > birth> > details under discussion.> > ==>> > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > INDIA.> > <==> > One of the major method to determine the job of a native > is "Karmesasya> > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida" (Phaladeepika) > meaning, "the > > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa lord > of the> > 10th house lord from Natal lagna"> > In the said horoscope, Lagna is Leo, 10th house is Tarus (with > Ra in> > it), 10th lord is Ve. The navamsa of Ve falls in Scorpio and Ve is> > situated in Lagna Leo itself. Thus -> > Karmesa = Ve> > Karmesasya navamsa rasipa = lord of Scorpio = Ma.> > Thus Mars is should signify the job of the native in the said> > horoscope. With the 10th lord Ve in Leo (lord of Leo Sun is the> > significator of Government) and also with Mars as the significator > of> > the job it no wonder that the native "is a govt, servant and that > to0 in> > armed forces".> > Hope the methodology and explanation is clear.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > , ramesh mishra> > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Jyothi Ji,> > > Namaskar,> > > I do appreciate your comments.> > > I am not biased to any system.> > > But ofcourse, I give priority no.1 to KAS.> > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > prediction.> > > I have experienced VA more complicated and confusing> > > for timing any event.> > > Now as for the chart, the native's married life is not> > > ok and sometimes there is querrelling among them and> > > the situation becomes so nasty both of them becomes> > > ready to divorce but after few hours everything comes> > > to normal and they live together happily for months> > > together.> > > Nobody knows when the happy situation will take turn.> > > As far as I know native never faced depression.> > > He never went abroad and no chances in future also> > > because his financial condition is not so strong.> > > He has been mostly visiting many places in India.> > > He took birth in a small village but after 4 years of> > > birth he never stayed in his birth place .> > > As I have stated in my mail he is a govt,servant and> > > that to in armed forces.> > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > servant ?> > > I could not find it out till now?> > > Thanks and regards.> > > Ramesh Mishra> > >> > > --- jyothi_b_lakshmi jyothi_b_lakshmi@> > > wrote:> > >> > > > Dear Sir,> > > >> > > > When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal> > > > importance to 6th> > > > lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing> > > > divorce. I do not> > > > know why you overlooked what I said about 6th lord> > > > aspecting 7th and> > > > tried to negate my reasoning by emphasising on 7th> > > > lord in 12th. May> > > > be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt> > > > like putting down> > > > what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying> > > > reasoning by KAS> > > > alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying> > > > to integrate the> > > > working points from all systems and trying to apply> > > > them for my> > > > learning. I am trying to pick up the best and> > > > plausible clues from> > > > all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying> > > > to learn from> > > > them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much.> > > > Whatever methods> > > > we follow, all must lead to the same results, that> > > > is what astrology> > > > must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody> > > > can create their> > > > own branches of this divine science and destroy it.> > > > So please do not> > > > try to crucify me at the first instance.> > > >> > > > Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot> > > > create an event. My> > > > sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not> > > > divorced,> > > > (Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is> > > > in 12th it need> > > > not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a> > > > friendly sign can> > > > modify the effects, can be just separation, husband> > > > staying away due> > > > to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord> > > > can modify the> > > > effects. A lot of other factors need to be> > > > considered. I am not a> > > > pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings> > > > from whatever I> > > > have read so far. Anyways I do believe that position> > > > of 7th lord in> > > > 12th does negatively affect marital harmony. This> > > > what I have> > > > observed.> > > >> > > > Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and> > > > 12th lord Moon are> > > > in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon> > > > being in its own> > > > sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th.> > > > The negative> > > > effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord> > > > saturn with moon in> > > > 12th, taking into account the opposite nature of> > > > these planets, their> > > > life can be very cold and indifferent without any> > > > emotions towards> > > > each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with> > > > legal issues, court> > > > cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce)> > > > effects of saturn> > > > is less when compared with 7th house effects because> > > > 7th (Aquarius)> > > > is the moola trikona of saturn. What I have> > > > understood is if a planet> > > > owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona, the result> > > > of moola trikona> > > > predominates. So again the chances of staying> > > > together gains weight> > > > than getting legally separated.> > > >> > > > Viewing in another angle, without considering the> > > > exchange efects,> > > > let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna> > > > lord. As per what I> > > > know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive> > > > results to the houses> > > > he is associated with by means of position, aspect,> > > > association with> > > > lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna> > > > lord tries to> > > > impart positive results for 7th as it is in> > > > conjunction with 7th> > > > lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being together> > > > shows the native> > > > and his partner trying to stick together> > > > irrespective of the> > > > differences.> > > > These are the reasons I can find with my minimal> > > > knowledge. If I am> > > > wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I> > > > think this> > > > person's married life is as good as separated.> > > >> > > > For my learning, can you please let me know the> > > > personlity of this> > > > person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily> > > > depressed? Also> > > > was he always in his native place or did he go> > > > abroad any time? Does> > > > he have any serious health problems?> > > >> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Jyothi> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ,> > > > ramesh mishra> > > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Jyothi, Ash and all,> > > > > I give you one chart of a male native who is> > > > closely related to> > > > me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and 2nd> > > > lord occupy 12th> > > > house.> > > > > According to the verdict of Jyothi he should> > > > have divorced his> > > > spouse> > > > > because of 7th lord in 12th.> > > > > In fact it is not so. They married 38 years> > > > before and still> > > > living together.No doubt there married life is hell> > > > but staying> > > > together.> > > > > Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he> > > > was not> > > > divorced ?> > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > INDIA.> > > > > He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters.> > > > > He served in defence forces in IAF and took> > > > volunteerly> > > > retirement after doing service in armed forces.> > > > > Again after two years of retirement he got a job> > > > in central> > > > government.> > > > > Between this period of two years, he was not> > > > jobless.He has been> > > > doing job in a private co.> > > > > If she can analyse it will be good learning for> > > > us.> > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > Ash kas@ wrote:> > > > > Dear Jyothi,> > > > >> > > > > Here 2 laws of KAS are matching.> > > > >> > > > > 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt.> > > > > 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and> > > > aspecting 7th> > > > house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa.> > > > > 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8> > > > points, and such> > > > marriages will break in highest power planet so> > > > dasha of Saturn when> > > > it came it will break the marriage.> > > > > 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3> > > > zeroes in SAV.> > > > Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house.> > > > >> > > > > 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn,> > > > will stick to> > > > her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so> > > > difference is much> > > > more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons,> > > > ego are very> > > > fragile.> > > > >> > > > > Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of> > > > Ju and breaks in> > > > Ju. As per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws> > > > of KAS i.e.> > > > Marriage in lowest power planet will break in> > > > Highest power planet of> > > > 6th or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is> > > > very powerful,> > > > being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E> > > > along with Karak> > > > i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the chart.> > > > >> > > > > Marriage in 6th lord's antra which is only 8> > > > points in 7th house> > > > and breaks in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th> > > > house> > > === message truncated ===> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Go to> > http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php> > >> >>

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Thanks a lot Sreenadh ji. I have analysed this chart as per my limited knowledge and posted to the forum. Kindly comment on that if my approach is diverted anywhere. Thanks and regards. Ramesh MishraSreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear Vinita ji, Lol....! That won't work always.. Note that "it is one of the methods" But still, when I say so, I should clarify some of the other possibilities as well. 1) Income should be

predicted based on the significance of the planet present in 10th House from Lagna, Moon, or Sun. i.e. First check whether there is a planet in 10th from Lagna, if not check whether there is a planet in 10th from Moon, if not check whether there is a planet in 10th from Sun. The said planet will provide income (job) based on its significance at some point of time for sure. (Yes, proper Dasa or Antara can be considered) 2) The benefic planets in 11-2-Lagna will provide income from different sources during their corresponding Dasa-Antara. Thus Job could be related to this as well in the corresponding periods. 3) The Navamsa lord of the 10 HL can indicate the job. (But try using it only after seeing the possibilities indicated by the first two) Note that in the said horoscope, the first choice was not applicable due to the absence of planets in 10th. Even the Ra in 10th was supposed to give the result fo Venus the 10th lord from Lagna and Moon

(Lagna and Moon was in Leo). Thus I went for the Navamsa lord of the 10th House and that was Mars - clearly explaining why the job was as a government servant, that too in army. Note: Do you see some lesson from the above note? ;)Love and regards,Sreenadh , "vinita kumar" <shankar_mamta wrote:>> Shreenadh, i can only say WOW!!!> > tried to check this with the chart of another native who is a govt. > servant. The lagna is Taurus, so the 10th lord is Saturn. In > Navamsa, Saturn is in the amsa of Saggi while Jupiter in natal chart > is conjoined with the Sun. Did i follow the steps correctly? > > , "Sreenadh" > sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear Remesh ji,> > ==>> > > Astrology,mainly,gains

reputation on correct> > > prediction.> > <==> > I totally agree with the above statement of yours. > > ==>> > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > servant ? I could not find it out till now?> > <==> > That is some thing cute, and because of that statement I got> > interested in the said horoscope. I hope the following is the > birth> > details under discussion.> > ==>> > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > INDIA.> > <==> > One of the major method to determine the job of a native > is "Karmesasya> > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida" (Phaladeepika) > meaning, "the > > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa

lord > of the> > 10th house lord from Natal lagna"> > In the said horoscope, Lagna is Leo, 10th house is Tarus (with > Ra in> > it), 10th lord is Ve. The navamsa of Ve falls in Scorpio and Ve is> > situated in Lagna Leo itself. Thus -> > Karmesa = Ve> > Karmesasya navamsa rasipa = lord of Scorpio = Ma.> > Thus Mars is should signify the job of the native in the said> > horoscope. With the 10th lord Ve in Leo (lord of Leo Sun is the> > significator of Government) and also with Mars as the significator > of> > the job it no wonder that the native "is a govt, servant and that > to0 in> > armed forces".> > Hope the methodology and explanation is clear.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > , ramesh mishra> >

<aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Jyothi Ji,> > > Namaskar,> > > I do appreciate your comments.> > > I am not biased to any system.> > > But ofcourse, I give priority no.1 to KAS.> > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > prediction.> > > I have experienced VA more complicated and confusing> > > for timing any event.> > > Now as for the chart, the native's married life is not> > > ok and sometimes there is querrelling among them and> > > the situation becomes so nasty both of them becomes> > > ready to divorce but after few hours everything comes> > > to normal and they live together happily for months> > > together.> > > Nobody knows when the happy situation will take turn.> > > As far as I know native never

faced depression.> > > He never went abroad and no chances in future also> > > because his financial condition is not so strong.> > > He has been mostly visiting many places in India.> > > He took birth in a small village but after 4 years of> > > birth he never stayed in his birth place .> > > As I have stated in my mail he is a govt,servant and> > > that to in armed forces.> > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > servant ?> > > I could not find it out till now?> > > Thanks and regards.> > > Ramesh Mishra> > >> > > --- jyothi_b_lakshmi jyothi_b_lakshmi@> > > wrote:> > >> > > > Dear Sir,> > > >> > > > When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal> > > > importance to 6th> >

> > lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing> > > > divorce. I do not> > > > know why you overlooked what I said about 6th lord> > > > aspecting 7th and> > > > tried to negate my reasoning by emphasising on 7th> > > > lord in 12th. May> > > > be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt> > > > like putting down> > > > what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying> > > > reasoning by KAS> > > > alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying> > > > to integrate the> > > > working points from all systems and trying to apply> > > > them for my> > > > learning. I am trying to pick up the best and> > > > plausible clues from> > > > all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying> >

> > to learn from> > > > them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much.> > > > Whatever methods> > > > we follow, all must lead to the same results, that> > > > is what astrology> > > > must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody> > > > can create their> > > > own branches of this divine science and destroy it.> > > > So please do not> > > > try to crucify me at the first instance.> > > >> > > > Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot> > > > create an event. My> > > > sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not> > > > divorced,> > > > (Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is> > > > in 12th it need> > > > not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a>

> > > friendly sign can> > > > modify the effects, can be just separation, husband> > > > staying away due> > > > to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord> > > > can modify the> > > > effects. A lot of other factors need to be> > > > considered. I am not a> > > > pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings> > > > from whatever I> > > > have read so far. Anyways I do believe that position> > > > of 7th lord in> > > > 12th does negatively affect marital harmony. This> > > > what I have> > > > observed.> > > >> > > > Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and> > > > 12th lord Moon are> > > > in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon> > > > being in

its own> > > > sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th.> > > > The negative> > > > effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord> > > > saturn with moon in> > > > 12th, taking into account the opposite nature of> > > > these planets, their> > > > life can be very cold and indifferent without any> > > > emotions towards> > > > each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with> > > > legal issues, court> > > > cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce)> > > > effects of saturn> > > > is less when compared with 7th house effects because> > > > 7th (Aquarius)> > > > is the moola trikona of saturn. What I have> > > > understood is if a planet> > > > owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona,

the result> > > > of moola trikona> > > > predominates. So again the chances of staying> > > > together gains weight> > > > than getting legally separated.> > > >> > > > Viewing in another angle, without considering the> > > > exchange efects,> > > > let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna> > > > lord. As per what I> > > > know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive> > > > results to the houses> > > > he is associated with by means of position, aspect,> > > > association with> > > > lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna> > > > lord tries to> > > > impart positive results for 7th as it is in> > > > conjunction with 7th> > > > lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being

together> > > > shows the native> > > > and his partner trying to stick together> > > > irrespective of the> > > > differences.> > > > These are the reasons I can find with my minimal> > > > knowledge. If I am> > > > wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I> > > > think this> > > > person's married life is as good as separated.> > > >> > > > For my learning, can you please let me know the> > > > personlity of this> > > > person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily> > > > depressed? Also> > > > was he always in his native place or did he go> > > > abroad any time? Does> > > > he have any serious health problems?> > > >> > > >> > > >

Regards,> > > > Jyothi> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ,> > > > ramesh mishra> > > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Jyothi, Ash and all,> > > > > I give you one chart of a male native who is> > > > closely related to> > > > me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and 2nd> > > > lord occupy 12th> > > > house.> > > > > According to the verdict of Jyothi he should> > > > have divorced his> > > > spouse> > > > > because of 7th lord in 12th.> > > > > In fact it is not so. They married 38 years> > > >

before and still> > > > living together.No doubt there married life is hell> > > > but staying> > > > together.> > > > > Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he> > > > was not> > > > divorced ?> > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > INDIA.> > > > > He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters.> > > > > He served in defence forces in IAF and took> > > > volunteerly> > > > retirement after doing service in armed forces.> > > > > Again after two years of retirement he got a job> > > > in central> > > > government.> > > > > Between this period of two years, he was not> > > >

jobless.He has been> > > > doing job in a private co.> > > > > If she can analyse it will be good learning for> > > > us.> > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > Ash kas@ wrote:> > > > > Dear Jyothi,> > > > >> > > > > Here 2 laws of KAS are matching.> > > > >> > > > > 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt.> > > > > 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and> > > > aspecting 7th> > > > house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa.> > > > > 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8> > > > points, and such> > > > marriages will break in highest power planet so> > > > dasha of Saturn when> > > > it came it will break

the marriage.> > > > > 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3> > > > zeroes in SAV.> > > > Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house.> > > > >> > > > > 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn,> > > > will stick to> > > > her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so> > > > difference is much> > > > more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons,> > > > ego are very> > > > fragile.> > > > >> > > > > Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of> > > > Ju and breaks in> > > > Ju. As per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws> > > > of KAS i.e.> > > > Marriage in lowest power planet will break in> > > > Highest power planet of> > > > 6th

or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is> > > > very powerful,> > > > being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E> > > > along with Karak> > > > i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the chart.> > > > >> > > > > Marriage in 6th lord's antra which is only 8> > > > points in 7th house> > > > and breaks in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th> > > > house> > > === message truncated ===> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Go to> > http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php> > >> >>

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Dear Sreenadh,

 

I am also going thru' your mail and learning things.

 

One question, if you please.

 

What happens when 10H from Lagna has 2 / 3 planets ?

 

One of my Junior has Cp lagna and Ma, Ve and Rahu in 10H.

He is undergoing Mer-Ve-Mer (Vim. dasha). (Mercury exalted

with Sun in Virgo.). 10H lord Ve sits in Pisces in Navamsha.

 

He left his job in Mer-Ven-sat and trying to get a job in Gulf.

 

So, how do I apply the techniques here ?

 

10H L is venus.. not connected to his job (engineer).

Rahu and Mars may signify petroleum and engg.

But no connection to Sun (he was in a PSU).

2H is moon (parivartana with sat in Cn).

10H lord in pisces ...again does not signify engg.

2H has Moon and 11H is empty.

 

'Looking forward to reply.

 

Regards

Chakra

 

Sreenadh [sreesog]Monday, December 24, 2007 7:33 PM Subject: Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the native

 

Dear Vinita ji, Lol....! That won't work always.. Note that "it is one of the methods" But still, when I say so, I should clarify some of the other possibilities as well. 1) Income should be predicted based on the significance of the planet present in 10th House from Lagna, Moon, or Sun. i.e. First check whether there is a planet in 10th from Lagna, if not check whether there is a planet in 10th from Moon, if not check whether there is a planet in 10th from Sun. The said planet will provide income (job) based on its significance at some point of time for sure. (Yes, proper Dasa or Antara can be considered) 2) The benefic planets in 11-2-Lagna will provide income from different sources during their corresponding Dasa-Antara. Thus Job could be related to this as well in the corresponding periods. 3) The Navamsa lord of the 10 HL can indicate the job. (But try using it only after seeing the possibilities indicated by the first two) Note that in the said horoscope, the first choice was not applicable due to the absence of planets in 10th. Even the Ra in 10th was supposed to give the result fo Venus the 10th lord from Lagna and Moon (Lagna and Moon was in Leo). Thus I went for the Navamsa lord of the 10th House and that was Mars - clearly explaining why the job was as a government servant, that too in army. Note: Do you see some lesson from the above note? ;)Love and regards,Sreenadh , "vinita kumar" <shankar_mamta wrote:>> Shreenadh, i can only say WOW!!!> > tried to check this with the chart of another native who is a govt. > servant. The lagna is Taurus, so the 10th lord is Saturn. In > Navamsa, Saturn is in the amsa of Saggi while Jupiter in natal chart > is conjoined with the Sun. Did i follow the steps correctly? > > , "Sreenadh" > sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear Remesh ji,> > ==>> > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > prediction.> > <==> > I totally agree with the above statement of yours. > > ==>> > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > servant ? I could not find it out till now?> > <==> > That is some thing cute, and because of that statement I got> > interested in the said horoscope. I hope the following is the > birth> > details under discussion.> > ==>> > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > INDIA.> > <==> > One of the major method to determine the job of a native > is "Karmesasya> > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida" (Phaladeepika) > meaning, "the > > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa lord > of the> > 10th house lord from Natal lagna"> > In the said horoscope, Lagna is Leo, 10th house is Tarus (with > Ra in> > it), 10th lord is Ve. The navamsa of Ve falls in Scorpio and Ve is> > situated in Lagna Leo itself. Thus -> > Karmesa = Ve> > Karmesasya navamsa rasipa = lord of Scorpio = Ma.> > Thus Mars is should signify the job of the native in the said> > horoscope. With the 10th lord Ve in Leo (lord of Leo Sun is the> > significator of Government) and also with Mars as the significator > of> > the job it no wonder that the native "is a govt, servant and that > to0 in> > armed forces".> > Hope the methodology and explanation is clear.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > , ramesh mishra> > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Jyothi Ji,> > > Namaskar,> > > I do appreciate your comments.> > > I am not biased to any system.> > > But ofcourse, I give priority no.1 to KAS.> > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > prediction.> > > I have experienced VA more complicated and confusing> > > for timing any event.> > > Now as for the chart, the native's married life is not> > > ok and sometimes there is querrelling among them and> > > the situation becomes so nasty both of them becomes> > > ready to divorce but after few hours everything comes> > > to normal and they live together happily for months> > > together.> > > Nobody knows when the happy situation will take turn.> > > As far as I know native never faced depression.> > > He never went abroad and no chances in future also> > > because his financial condition is not so strong.> > > He has been mostly visiting many places in India.> > > He took birth in a small village but after 4 years of> > > birth he never stayed in his birth place .> > > As I have stated in my mail he is a govt,servant and> > > that to in armed forces.> > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > servant ?> > > I could not find it out till now?> > > Thanks and regards.> > > Ramesh Mishra> > >> > > --- jyothi_b_lakshmi jyothi_b_lakshmi@> > > wrote:> > >> > > > Dear Sir,> > > >> > > > When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal> > > > importance to 6th> > > > lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing> > > > divorce. I do not> > > > know why you overlooked what I said about 6th lord> > > > aspecting 7th and> > > > tried to negate my reasoning by emphasising on 7th> > > > lord in 12th. May> > > > be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt> > > > like putting down> > > > what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying> > > > reasoning by KAS> > > > alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying> > > > to integrate the> > > > working points from all systems and trying to apply> > > > them for my> > > > learning. I am trying to pick up the best and> > > > plausible clues from> > > > all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying> > > > to learn from> > > > them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much.> > > > Whatever methods> > > > we follow, all must lead to the same results, that> > > > is what astrology> > > > must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody> > > > can create their> > > > own branches of this divine science and destroy it.> > > > So please do not> > > > try to crucify me at the first instance.> > > >> > > > Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot> > > > create an event. My> > > > sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not> > > > divorced,> > > > (Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is> > > > in 12th it need> > > > not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a> > > > friendly sign can> > > > modify the effects, can be just separation, husband> > > > staying away due> > > > to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord> > > > can modify the> > > > effects. A lot of other factors need to be> > > > considered. I am not a> > > > pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings> > > > from whatever I> > > > have read so far. Anyways I do believe that position> > > > of 7th lord in> > > > 12th does negatively affect marital harmony. This> > > > what I have> > > > observed.> > > >> > > > Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and> > > > 12th lord Moon are> > > > in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon> > > > being in its own> > > > sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th.> > > > The negative> > > > effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord> > > > saturn with moon in> > > > 12th, taking into account the opposite nature of> > > > these planets, their> > > > life can be very cold and indifferent without any> > > > emotions towards> > > > each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with> > > > legal issues, court> > > > cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce)> > > > effects of saturn> > > > is less when compared with 7th house effects because> > > > 7th (Aquarius)> > > > is the moola trikona of saturn. What I have> > > > understood is if a planet> > > > owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona, the result> > > > of moola trikona> > > > predominates. So again the chances of staying> > > > together gains weight> > > > than getting legally separated.> > > >> > > > Viewing in another angle, without considering the> > > > exchange efects,> > > > let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna> > > > lord. As per what I> > > > know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive> > > > results to the houses> > > > he is associated with by means of position, aspect,> > > > association with> > > > lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna> > > > lord tries to> > > > impart positive results for 7th as it is in> > > > conjunction with 7th> > > > lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being together> > > > shows the native> > > > and his partner trying to stick together> > > > irrespective of the> > > > differences.> > > > These are the reasons I can find with my minimal> > > > knowledge. If I am> > > > wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I> > > > think this> > > > person's married life is as good as separated.> > > >> > > > For my learning, can you please let me know the> > > > personlity of this> > > > person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily> > > > depressed? Also> > > > was he always in his native place or did he go> > > > abroad any time? Does> > > > he have any serious health problems?> > > >> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Jyothi> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ,> > > > ramesh mishra> > > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Jyothi, Ash and all,> > > > > I give you one chart of a male native who is> > > > closely related to> > > > me and I know his past events ..His 7th lord and 2nd> > > > lord occupy 12th> > > > house.> > > > > According to the verdict of Jyothi he should> > > > have divorced his> > > > spouse> > > > > because of 7th lord in 12th.> > > > > In fact it is not so. They married 38 years> > > > before and still> > > > living together.No doubt there married life is hell> > > > but staying> > > > together.> > > > > Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he> > > > was not> > > > divorced ?> > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > INDIA.> > > > > He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters.> > > > > He served in defence forces in IAF and took> > > > volunteerly> > > > retirement after doing service in armed forces.> > > > > Again after two years of retirement he got a job> > > > in central> > > > government.> > > > > Between this period of two years, he was not> > > > jobless.He has been> > > > doing job in a private co.> > > > > If she can analyse it will be good learning for> > > > us.> > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > Ash kas@ wrote:> > > > > Dear Jyothi,> > > > >> > > > > Here 2 laws of KAS are matching.> > > > >> > > > > 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt.> > > > > 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and> > > > aspecting 7th> > > > house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa.> > > > > 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8> > > > points, and such> > > > marriages will break in highest power planet so> > > > dasha of Saturn when> > > > it came it will break the marriage.> > > > > 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3> > > > zeroes in SAV.> > > > Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house.> > > > >> > > > > 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn,> > > > will stick to> > > > her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so> > > > difference is much> > > > more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons,> > > > ego are very> > > > fragile.> > > > >> > > > > Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of> > > > Ju and breaks in> > > > Ju. As per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws> > > > of KAS i.e.> > > > Marriage in lowest power planet will break in> > > > Highest power planet of> > > > 6th or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is> > > > very powerful,> > > > being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E> > > > along with Karak> > > > i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the chart.> > > > >> > > > > Marriage in 6th lord's antra which is only 8> > > > points in 7th house> > > > and breaks in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th> > > > house> > > === message truncated ===> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Go to> > http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php> > >> >>This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. 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Dear Chakraborty,

 

You need to consider the navamsa lord of those planets in 10H, then see

which planet is repeating i.e. after seeing the 10H from Lagna, Moon &

Sun, in the aforesaid points of Sreenadh, include the planets in 10H

from those respective 10H, then after having ascertained the strongest,

note which planet is repeating maximum number of times that planet would

influence the career.

 

Couple this with dasha i.e. if the weakest planet integrates or relates

well with dasha Lord {MD + PD}, possibly that planet would influence

more irrepective of its relative strength, later when the dasha {MD+PD}

lord connect with strongest planet and a raise in position or change of

profession can be articulated.

 

As in your friend's case, the native left a cosy PSU job, to turn

dynamic and plunge into seas of middle east !! So a tangential shift

in work place.

 

with regards,

 

sreeram_srinivas

 

 

 

 

, " Chakraborty, PL "

<CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:

 

Dear Sreenadh,

 

I am also going thru' your mail and learning things.

 

One question, if you please.

 

What happens when 10H from Lagna has 2 / 3 planets ?

 

One of my Junior has Cp lagna and Ma, Ve and Rahu in 10H.

He is undergoing Mer-Ve-Mer (Vim. dasha). (Mercury exalted

with Sun in Virgo.). 10H lord Ve sits in Pisces in Navamsha.

 

He left his job in Mer-Ven-sat and trying to get a job in Gulf.

 

So, how do I apply the techniques here ?

 

10H L is venus.. not connected to his job (engineer).

Rahu and Mars may signify petroleum and engg.

But no connection to Sun (he was in a PSU).

2H is moon (parivartana with sat in Cn).

10H lord in pisces ...again does not signify engg.

2H has Moon and 11H is empty.

 

'Looking forward to reply.

 

Regards

Chakra

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Dear Chakraborty ji, First thig first - provide the date of birth with time and location. Let me see the chart and then I will reply.Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh,> > I am also going thru' your mail and learning things.> > One question, if you please.> > What happens when 10H from Lagna has 2 / 3 planets ?> > One of my Junior has Cp lagna and Ma, Ve and Rahu in 10H.> He is undergoing Mer-Ve-Mer (Vim. dasha). (Mercury exalted> with Sun in Virgo.). 10H lord Ve sits in Pisces in Navamsha.> > He left his job in Mer-Ven-sat and trying to get a job in Gulf.> > So, how do I apply the techniques here ?> > 10H L is venus.. not connected to his job (engineer).> Rahu and Mars may signify petroleum and engg.> But no connection to Sun (he was in a PSU).> 2H is moon (parivartana with sat in Cn).> 10H lord in pisces ...again does not signify engg.> 2H has Moon and 11H is empty.> > 'Looking forward to reply.> > Regards> Chakra> > > Sreenadh [sreesog]> Monday, December 24, 2007 7:33 PM> > Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the> native> > > > Dear Vinita ji,> Lol....! That won't work always.. Note that "it is one of the> methods" But still, when I say so, I should clarify some of the other> possibilities as well. > 1) Income should be predicted based on the significance of the planet> present in 10th House from Lagna, Moon, or Sun. i.e. First check whether> there is a planet in 10th from Lagna, if not check whether there is a planet> in 10th from Moon, if not check whether there is a planet in 10th from Sun.> The said planet will provide income (job) based on its significance at some> point of time for sure. (Yes, proper Dasa or Antara can be considered)> 2) The benefic planets in 11-2-Lagna will provide income from different> sources during their corresponding Dasa-Antara. Thus Job could be related to> this as well in the corresponding periods.> 3) The Navamsa lord of the 10 HL can indicate the job. (But try using it> only after seeing the possibilities indicated by the first two)> Note that in the said horoscope, the first choice was not applicable due to> the absence of planets in 10th. Even the Ra in 10th was supposed to give the> result fo Venus the 10th lord from Lagna and Moon (Lagna and Moon was in> Leo). Thus I went for the Navamsa lord of the 10th House and that was Mars -> clearly explaining why the job was as a government servant, that too in> army. > Note: Do you see some lesson from the above note? > Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , "vinita kumar"> shankar_mamta@ wrote:> >> > Shreenadh, i can only say WOW!!!> > > > tried to check this with the chart of another native who is a govt. > > servant. The lagna is Taurus, so the 10th lord is Saturn. In > > Navamsa, Saturn is in the amsa of Saggi while Jupiter in natal chart > > is conjoined with the Sun. Did i follow the steps correctly? > > > > , "Sreenadh" > > sreesog@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Remesh ji,> > > ==>> > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > > prediction.> > > <==> > > I totally agree with the above statement of yours. > > > ==>> > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > > servant ? I could not find it out till now?> > > <==> > > That is some thing cute, and because of that statement I got> > > interested in the said horoscope. I hope the following is the > > birth> > > details under discussion.> > > ==>> > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > INDIA.> > > <==> > > One of the major method to determine the job of a native > > is "Karmesasya> > > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida" (Phaladeepika) > > meaning, "the > > > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa lord > > of the> > > 10th house lord from Natal lagna"> > > In the said horoscope, Lagna is Leo, 10th house is Tarus (with > > Ra in> > > it), 10th lord is Ve. The navamsa of Ve falls in Scorpio and Ve is> > > situated in Lagna Leo itself. Thus -> > > Karmesa = Ve> > > Karmesasya navamsa rasipa = lord of Scorpio = Ma.> > > Thus Mars is should signify the job of the native in the said> > > horoscope. With the 10th lord Ve in Leo (lord of Leo Sun is the> > > significator of Government) and also with Mars as the significator > > of> > > the job it no wonder that the native "is a govt, servant and that > > to0 in> > > armed forces".> > > Hope the methodology and explanation is clear.> > > Love and regards,> > > Sreenadh> > > > > > , ramesh mishra> > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Jyothi Ji,> > > > Namaskar,> > > > I do appreciate your comments.> > > > I am not biased to any system.> > > > But ofcourse, I give priority no.1 to KAS.> > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > > prediction.> > > > I have experienced VA more complicated and confusing> > > > for timing any event.> > > > Now as for the chart, the native's married life is not> > > > ok and sometimes there is querrelling among them and> > > > the situation becomes so nasty both of them becomes> > > > ready to divorce but after few hours everything comes> > > > to normal and they live together happily for months> > > > together.> > > > Nobody knows when the happy situation will take turn.> > > > As far as I know native never faced depression.> > > > He never went abroad and no chances in future also> > > > because his financial condition is not so strong.> > > > He has been mostly visiting many places in India.> > > > He took birth in a small village but after 4 years of> > > > birth he never stayed in his birth place .> > > > As I have stated in my mail he is a govt,servant and> > > > that to in armed forces.> > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > > servant ?> > > > I could not find it out till now?> > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > >> > > > --- jyothi_b_lakshmi jyothi_b_lakshmi@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > >> > > > > When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal> > > > > importance to 6th> > > > > lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing> > > > > divorce. I do not> > > > > know why you overlooked what I said about 6th lord> > > > > aspecting 7th and> > > > > tried to negate my reasoning by emphasising on 7th> > > > > lord in 12th. May> > > > > be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt> > > > > like putting down> > > > > what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying> > > > > reasoning by KAS> > > > > alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying> > > > > to integrate the> > > > > working points from all systems and trying to apply> > > > > them for my> > > > > learning. I am trying to pick up the best and> > > > > plausible clues from> > > > > all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying> > > > > to learn from> > > > > them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much.> > > > > Whatever methods> > > > > we follow, all must lead to the same results, that> > > > > is what astrology> > > > > must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody> > > > > can create their> > > > > own branches of this divine science and destroy it.> > > > > So please do not> > > > > try to crucify me at the first instance.> > > > >> > > > > Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot> > > > > create an event. My> > > > > sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not> > > > > divorced,> > > > > (Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is> > > > > in 12th it need> > > > > not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a> > > > > friendly sign can> > > > > modify the effects, can be just separation, husband> > > > > staying away due> > > > > to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord> > > > > can modify the> > > > > effects. A lot of other factors need to be> > > > > considered. I am not a> > > > > pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings> > > > > from whatever I> > > > > have read so far. Anyways I do believe that position> > > > > of 7th lord in> > > > > 12th does negatively affect marital harmony. This> > > > > what I have> > > > > observed.> > > > >> > > > > Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and> > > > > 12th lord Moon are> > > > > in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon> > > > > being in its own> > > > > sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th.> > > > > The negative> > > > > effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord> > > > > saturn with moon in> > > > > 12th, taking into account the opposite nature of> > > > > these planets, their> > > > > life can be very cold and indifferent without any> > > > > emotions towards> > > > > each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with> > > > > legal issues, court> > > > > cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce)> > > > > effects of saturn> > > > > is less when compared with 7th house effects because> > > > > 7th (Aquarius)> > > > > is the moola trikona of saturn. What I have> > > > > understood is if a planet> > > > > owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona, the result> > > > > of moola trikona> > > > > predominates. So again the chances of staying> > > > > together gains weight> > > > > than getting legally separated.> > > > >> > > > > Viewing in another angle, without considering the> > > > > exchange efects,> > > > > let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna> > > > > lord. As per what I> > > > > know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive> > > > > results to the houses> > > > > he is associated with by means of position, aspect,> > > > > association with> > > > > lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna> > > > > lord tries to> > > > > impart positive results for 7th as it is in> > > > > conjunction with 7th> > > > > lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being together> > > > > shows the native> > > > > and his partner trying to stick together> > > > > irrespective of the> > > > > differences.> > > > > These are the reasons I can find with my minimal> > > > > knowledge. If I am> > > > > wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I> > > > > think this> > > > > person's married life is as good as separated.> > > > >> > > > > For my learning, can you please let me know the> > > > > personlity of this> > > > > person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily> > > > > depressed? Also> > > > > was he always in his native place or did he go> > > > > abroad any time? Does> > > > > he have any serious health problems?> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Jyothi> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ,> > > > > ramesh mishra> > > > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Jyothi, Ash and all,> > > > > > I give you one chart of a male native who is> > > > > closely related to> > > > > me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and 2nd> > > > > lord occupy 12th> > > > > house.> > > > > > According to the verdict of Jyothi he should> > > > > have divorced his> > > > > spouse> > > > > > because of 7th lord in 12th.> > > > > > In fact it is not so. They married 38 years> > > > > before and still> > > > > living together.No doubt there married life is hell> > > > > but staying> > > > > together.> > > > > > Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he> > > > > was not> > > > > divorced ?> > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > > INDIA.> > > > > > He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters.> > > > > > He served in defence forces in IAF and took> > > > > volunteerly> > > > > retirement after doing service in armed forces.> > > > > > Again after two years of retirement he got a job> > > > > in central> > > > > government.> > > > > > Between this period of two years, he was not> > > > > jobless.He has been> > > > > doing job in a private co.> > > > > > If she can analyse it will be good learning for> > > > > us.> > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > Ash kas@ wrote:> > > > > > Dear Jyothi,> > > > > >> > > > > > Here 2 laws of KAS are matching.> > > > > >> > > > > > 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt.> > > > > > 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and> > > > > aspecting 7th> > > > > house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa.> > > > > > 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8> > > > > points, and such> > > > > marriages will break in highest power planet so> > > > > dasha of Saturn when> > > > > it came it will break the marriage.> > > > > > 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3> > > > > zeroes in SAV.> > > > > Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house.> > > > > >> > > > > > 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn,> > > > > will stick to> > > > > her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so> > > > > difference is much> > > > > more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons,> > > > > ego are very> > > > > fragile.> > > > > >> > > > > > Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of> > > > > Ju and breaks in> > > > > Ju. As per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws> > > > > of KAS i.e.> > > > > Marriage in lowest power planet will break in> > > > > Highest power planet of> > > > > 6th or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is> > > > > very powerful,> > > > > being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E> > > > > along with Karak> > > > > i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the chart.> > > > > >> > > > > > Marriage in 6th lord's antra which is only 8> > > > > points in 7th house> > > > > and breaks in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th> > > > > house> > > > === message truncated ===> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Go to> > > http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php> > > >> > >> >> > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway. 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Dear Srinivas-ji,

 

Thank you. And I like the touch of humour.

 

Yes, we in petroleum industry generally refer middle-east

countries as 'GULF' only!!

 

Regards.

 

Chakraborty

sreeram srinivas [sreeram64]Wednesday, December 26, 2007 6:15 AM Subject: Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the native

 

Dear Chakraborty,You need to consider the navamsa lord of those planets in 10H, then seewhich planet is repeating i.e. after seeing the 10H from Lagna, Moon & Sun, in the aforesaid points of Sreenadh, include the planets in 10Hfrom those respective 10H, then after having ascertained the strongest,note which planet is repeating maximum number of times that planet wouldinfluence the career.Couple this with dasha i.e. if the weakest planet integrates or relateswell with dasha Lord {MD + PD}, possibly that planet would influencemore irrepective of its relative strength, later when the dasha {MD+PD}lord connect with strongest planet and a raise in position or change ofprofession can be articulated.As in your friend's case, the native left a cosy PSU job, to turndynamic and plunge into seas of middle east !! So a tangential shiftin work place.with regards,sreeram_srinivas , "Chakraborty, PL"<CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:Dear Sreenadh,I am also going thru' your mail and learning things.One question, if you please.What happens when 10H from Lagna has 2 / 3 planets ?One of my Junior has Cp lagna and Ma, Ve and Rahu in 10H.He is undergoing Mer-Ve-Mer (Vim. dasha). (Mercury exaltedwith Sun in Virgo.). 10H lord Ve sits in Pisces in Navamsha.He left his job in Mer-Ven-sat and trying to get a job in Gulf.So, how do I apply the techniques here ?10H L is venus.. not connected to his job (engineer).Rahu and Mars may signify petroleum and engg.But no connection to Sun (he was in a PSU).2H is moon (parivartana with sat in Cn).10H lord in pisces ...again does not signify engg.2H has Moon and 11H is empty.'Looking forward to reply.RegardsChakraThis Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments.

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Dear Chakraborty ji,

It is the Mars in 10th (mechanical), placed along with Venus in 10th (vehicle) which made him "Metallurgical engr" Hindustan Motors (ambassador car factory), and Ra in 10th must have contributed to it. He must had got this job between June 1995 to July 1996 (Saturn's dasa - Mars Antara) or between July 1996 to May 1999 (Saturn's dasa - Rahu Antara; i.e. possibly between 20-23 years of age. Note that in this chart both Mars and Rahu are in 10th house.

Now it is the Dasa of Mercury running with mercury in 9th (abroad) and it is in Virgo (abroad). Thus mercury dasa is fully functional, and due to this, he will go abroad for sure, amaze much wealth and come back. This is a good horoscope. Note that even abroad he will do similar jobs in similar companies, so going abroad does not affect the type of job he is doing much. Any way the chart indicates that the native would be well versed in 3 professions and as per the dasa changes he may shift from one to another, which necessitates talent on overlapping fields.

In this chart too there is no need to refer or go to the Namasa lord to locate the job, since planets are already present in 10th from Lagna. Note that all the results such as Job manifests for this native in the dasa of Saturn, for whom Libra (10th from Lagna) is the exaltation sign; Saturn is the is the significator of 10th house; Saturn placed in 7th from Lagna and aspects lagna (providing a connection with lagna); and the dasa of Saturn is running. All these indicate why the 10th house related results materialized in the dasa of Saturn; and in the antara of the planets placed in 10th house.

Hope this helps.

Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh-ji,> Following are the details.> > DOB : October 6, 1976> TOB : 13:30 hrs (+/- 5 min)> Kolkata, 88 E 22, 22N34,> And he insists that 10H has Ma+Ve+Ra in> his original Kundli at home.> > He is a Metallurgical engr, worked for 1.5 yrs in > Hindustan Motors (ambassador car factory) > and then IOCL (Sept 2000-07 Jul).> > Regards> > Chakraborty> > Sreenadh [sreesog]> Wednesday, December 26, 2007 9:33 AM> > Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the> native> > > > > Dear Chakraborty ji,> First thig first - provide the date of birth with time and location. Let> me see the chart and then I will reply.> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> , "Chakraborty, PL"> CHAKRABORTYP2@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sreenadh,> > > > I am also going thru' your mail and learning things.> > > > One question, if you please.> > > > What happens when 10H from Lagna has 2 / 3 planets ?> > > > One of my Junior has Cp lagna and Ma, Ve and Rahu in 10H.> > He is undergoing Mer-Ve-Mer (Vim. dasha). (Mercury exalted> > with Sun in Virgo.). 10H lord Ve sits in Pisces in Navamsha.> > > > He left his job in Mer-Ven-sat and trying to get a job in Gulf.> > > > So, how do I apply the techniques here ?> > > > 10H L is venus.. not connected to his job (engineer).> > Rahu and Mars may signify petroleum and engg.> > But no connection to Sun (he was in a PSU).> > 2H is moon (parivartana with sat in Cn).> > 10H lord in pisces ...again does not signify engg.> > 2H has Moon and 11H is empty.> > > > 'Looking forward to reply.> > > > Regards> > Chakra> > > > > > Sreenadh [sreesog@]> > Monday, December 24, 2007 7:33 PM> > > > Re: Reason for Divorce/ Job of the> > native> > > > > > > > Dear Vinita ji,> > Lol....! That won't work always.. Note that "it is one of the> > methods" But still, when I say so, I should clarify some of the other> > possibilities as well. > > 1) Income should be predicted based on the significance of the planet> > present in 10th House from Lagna, Moon, or Sun. i.e. First check whether> > there is a planet in 10th from Lagna, if not check whether there is a> planet> > in 10th from Moon, if not check whether there is a planet in 10th from> Sun.> > The said planet will provide income (job) based on its significance at> some> > point of time for sure. (Yes, proper Dasa or Antara can be considered)> > 2) The benefic planets in 11-2-Lagna will provide income from different> > sources during their corresponding Dasa-Antara. Thus Job could be related> to> > this as well in the corresponding periods.> > 3) The Navamsa lord of the 10 HL can indicate the job. (But try using it> > only after seeing the possibilities indicated by the first two)> > Note that in the said horoscope, the first choice was not applicable due> to> > the absence of planets in 10th. Even the Ra in 10th was supposed to give> the> > result fo Venus the 10th lord from Lagna and Moon (Lagna and Moon was in> > Leo). Thus I went for the Navamsa lord of the 10th House and that was Mars> -> > clearly explaining why the job was as a government servant, that too in> > army. > > Note: Do you see some lesson from the above note? > > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > , "vinita kumar"> > shankar_mamta@ wrote:> > >> > > Shreenadh, i can only say WOW!!!> > > > > > tried to check this with the chart of another native who is a govt. > > > servant. The lagna is Taurus, so the 10th lord is Saturn. In > > > Navamsa, Saturn is in the amsa of Saggi while Jupiter in natal chart > > > is conjoined with the Sun. Did i follow the steps correctly? > > > > > > , "Sreenadh" > > > sreesog@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Remesh ji,> > > > ==>> > > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > > > prediction.> > > > <==> > > > I totally agree with the above statement of yours. > > > > ==>> > > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > > > servant ? I could not find it out till now?> > > > <==> > > > That is some thing cute, and because of that statement I got> > > > interested in the said horoscope. I hope the following is the > > > birth> > > > details under discussion.> > > > ==>> > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > > INDIA.> > > > <==> > > > One of the major method to determine the job of a native > > > is "Karmesasya> > > > Navamsa rasipa vasat vrittim jagustadvida" (Phaladeepika) > > > meaning, "the > > > > job of the native should be told, by considering the navamsa lord > > > of the> > > > 10th house lord from Natal lagna"> > > > In the said horoscope, Lagna is Leo, 10th house is Tarus (with > > > Ra in> > > > it), 10th lord is Ve. The navamsa of Ve falls in Scorpio and Ve is> > > > situated in Lagna Leo itself. Thus -> > > > Karmesa = Ve> > > > Karmesasya navamsa rasipa = lord of Scorpio = Ma.> > > > Thus Mars is should signify the job of the native in the said> > > > horoscope. With the 10th lord Ve in Leo (lord of Leo Sun is the> > > > significator of Government) and also with Mars as the significator > > > of> > > > the job it no wonder that the native "is a govt, servant and that > > > to0 in> > > > armed forces".> > > > Hope the methodology and explanation is clear.> > > > Love and regards,> > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > , ramesh mishra> > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Jyothi Ji,> > > > > Namaskar,> > > > > I do appreciate your comments.> > > > > I am not biased to any system.> > > > > But ofcourse, I give priority no.1 to KAS.> > > > > Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> > > > > prediction.> > > > > I have experienced VA more complicated and confusing> > > > > for timing any event.> > > > > Now as for the chart, the native's married life is not> > > > > ok and sometimes there is querrelling among them and> > > > > the situation becomes so nasty both of them becomes> > > > > ready to divorce but after few hours everything comes> > > > > to normal and they live together happily for months> > > > > together.> > > > > Nobody knows when the happy situation will take turn.> > > > > As far as I know native never faced depression.> > > > > He never went abroad and no chances in future also> > > > > because his financial condition is not so strong.> > > > > He has been mostly visiting many places in India.> > > > > He took birth in a small village but after 4 years of> > > > > birth he never stayed in his birth place .> > > > > As I have stated in my mail he is a govt,servant and> > > > > that to in armed forces.> > > > > What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> > > > > servant ?> > > > > I could not find it out till now?> > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > >> > > > > --- jyothi_b_lakshmi jyothi_b_lakshmi@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > > >> > > > > > When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal> > > > > > importance to 6th> > > > > > lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing> > > > > > divorce. I do not> > > > > > know why you overlooked what I said about 6th lord> > > > > > aspecting 7th and> > > > > > tried to negate my reasoning by emphasising on 7th> > > > > > lord in 12th. May> > > > > > be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt> > > > > > like putting down> > > > > > what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying> > > > > > reasoning by KAS> > > > > > alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying> > > > > > to integrate the> > > > > > working points from all systems and trying to apply> > > > > > them for my> > > > > > learning. I am trying to pick up the best and> > > > > > plausible clues from> > > > > > all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying> > > > > > to learn from> > > > > > them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much.> > > > > > Whatever methods> > > > > > we follow, all must lead to the same results, that> > > > > > is what astrology> > > > > > must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody> > > > > > can create their> > > > > > own branches of this divine science and destroy it.> > > > > > So please do not> > > > > > try to crucify me at the first instance.> > > > > >> > > > > > Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot> > > > > > create an event. My> > > > > > sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not> > > > > > divorced,> > > > > > (Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is> > > > > > in 12th it need> > > > > > not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a> > > > > > friendly sign can> > > > > > modify the effects, can be just separation, husband> > > > > > staying away due> > > > > > to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord> > > > > > can modify the> > > > > > effects. A lot of other factors need to be> > > > > > considered. I am not a> > > > > > pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings> > > > > > from whatever I> > > > > > have read so far. Anyways I do believe that position> > > > > > of 7th lord in> > > > > > 12th does negatively affect marital harmony. This> > > > > > what I have> > > > > > observed.> > > > > >> > > > > > Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and> > > > > > 12th lord Moon are> > > > > > in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon> > > > > > being in its own> > > > > > sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th.> > > > > > The negative> > > > > > effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord> > > > > > saturn with moon in> > > > > > 12th, taking into account the opposite nature of> > > > > > these planets, their> > > > > > life can be very cold and indifferent without any> > > > > > emotions towards> > > > > > each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with> > > > > > legal issues, court> > > > > > cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce)> > > > > > effects of saturn> > > > > > is less when compared with 7th house effects because> > > > > > 7th (Aquarius)> > > > > > is the moola trikona of saturn. What I have> > > > > > understood is if a planet> > > > > > owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona, the result> > > > > > of moola trikona> > > > > > predominates. So again the chances of staying> > > > > > together gains weight> > > > > > than getting legally separated.> > > > > >> > > > > > Viewing in another angle, without considering the> > > > > > exchange efects,> > > > > > let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna> > > > > > lord. As per what I> > > > > > know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive> > > > > > results to the houses> > > > > > he is associated with by means of position, aspect,> > > > > > association with> > > > > > lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna> > > > > > lord tries to> > > > > > impart positive results for 7th as it is in> > > > > > conjunction with 7th> > > > > > lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being together> > > > > > shows the native> > > > > > and his partner trying to stick together> > > > > > irrespective of the> > > > > > differences.> > > > > > These are the reasons I can find with my minimal> > > > > > knowledge. If I am> > > > > > wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I> > > > > > think this> > > > > > person's married life is as good as separated.> > > > > >> > > > > > For my learning, can you please let me know the> > > > > > personlity of this> > > > > > person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily> > > > > > depressed? Also> > > > > > was he always in his native place or did he go> > > > > > abroad any time? Does> > > > > > he have any serious health problems?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Jyothi> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ,> > > > > > ramesh mishra> > > > > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Jyothi, Ash and all,> > > > > > > I give you one chart of a male native who is> > > > > > closely related to> > > > > > me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and 2nd> > > > > > lord occupy 12th> > > > > > house.> > > > > > > According to the verdict of Jyothi he should> > > > > > have divorced his> > > > > > spouse> > > > > > > because of 7th lord in 12th.> > > > > > > In fact it is not so. They married 38 years> > > > > > before and still> > > > > > living together.No doubt there married life is hell> > > > > > but staying> > > > > > together.> > > > > > > Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he> > > > > > was not> > > > > > divorced ?> > > > > > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > > > > > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N> > > > > > 46, 84 E 23> > > > > > > INDIA.> > > > > > > He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters.> > > > > > > He served in defence forces in IAF and took> > > > > > volunteerly> > > > > > retirement after doing service in armed forces.> > > > > > > Again after two years of retirement he got a job> > > > > > in central> > > > > > government.> > > > > > > Between this period of two years, he was not> > > > > > jobless.He has been> > > > > > doing job in a private co.> > > > > > > If she can analyse it will be good learning for> > > > > > us.> > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > Ash kas@ wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Jyothi,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Here 2 laws of KAS are matching.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt.> > > > > > > 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and> > > > > > aspecting 7th> > > > > > house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa.> > > > > > > 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8> > > > > > points, and such> > > > > > marriages will break in highest power planet so> > > > > > dasha of Saturn when> > > > > > it came it will break the marriage.> > > > > > > 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3> > > > > > zeroes in SAV.> > > > > > Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn,> > > > > > will stick to> > > > > > her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so> > > > > > difference is much> > > > > > more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons,> > > > > > ego are very> > > > > > fragile.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of> > > > > > Ju and breaks in> > > > > > Ju. 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Dear Sreenadh-ji,

 

Feedbacks on some of the facts.

 

He got his 1st job in 1998-99.

 

Yes, there is a change in career. his 1st offer was for Inspection

Engineer.. now changed to a Project Engineer (construction).

Expected date of joining - Jan'08.

 

Yes, l, he is good in many areas. Overlapping skills in

engg and practical HR.

 

Just a thinking on my part. Please correct me if I am going wrong.

 

Saturn is lagna lord and 2H lord also and in Parivartana with

Moon in 2H. So, saturn posited in 7H (foreign stay) may also

indicate staying abroad as it has great say about career here.

 

Saturn is exalted in 10H - means debilitated in 4H. So,

active saturn will give good career but separation from

home. Also saturn in 7H may indicate separtion from

spouse.

 

So, overall staying abroad is indicated.

 

Am I on the right track ? Just yes / partly yes /no will do.

 

Best of regards

 

Chakraborty

 

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Dear Chakraborty ji, Yes, well done! Right track. :)Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh-ji,> > Feedbacks on some of the facts.> > He got his 1st job in 1998-99.> > Yes, there is a change in career. his 1st offer was for Inspection> Engineer.. now changed to a Project Engineer (construction).> Expected date of joining - Jan'08.> > Yes, l, he is good in many areas. Overlapping skills in > engg and practical HR.> > Just a thinking on my part. Please correct me if I am going wrong.> > Saturn is lagna lord and 2H lord also and in Parivartana with> Moon in 2H. So, saturn posited in 7H (foreign stay) may also > indicate staying abroad as it has great say about career here.> > Saturn is exalted in 10H - means debilitated in 4H. So,> active saturn will give good career but separation from> home. Also saturn in 7H may indicate separtion from> spouse. > > So, overall staying abroad is indicated. > > Am I on the right track ? Just yes / partly yes /no will do.> > Best of regards> > Chakraborty> > > <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=17588172/grpspId=1705082686/msgI> d=5820/stime=1198657137/nc1=4706130/nc2=5045819/nc3=4725796> > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments.>

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Dear Chakraborty ji, As a re-thought I would like to add this: Also note that it is NOT Saturn but Mercury (the dasa lord; 9th lord) combined with Ve (10th lord; job) that is going to give rajayoga and job change now. Also note that he may get a chance to take her wife along with after some period of time, possibly in 2008-2010 period. . But your thought was in the RIGHT direction, Saturn in 7th too is a contributing factor, and another planet signifying similar effects like 'going abroad' . :)Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> > Dear Chakraborty ji,> Yes, well done! Right track. > Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , "Chakraborty, PL"> CHAKRABORTYP2@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sreenadh-ji,> >> > Feedbacks on some of the facts.> >> > He got his 1st job in 1998-99.> >> > Yes, there is a change in career. his 1st offer was for Inspection> > Engineer.. now changed to a Project Engineer (construction).> > Expected date of joining - Jan'08.> >> > Yes, l, he is good in many areas. Overlapping skills in> > engg and practical HR.> >> > Just a thinking on my part. Please correct me if I am going wrong.> >> > Saturn is lagna lord and 2H lord also and in Parivartana with> > Moon in 2H. So, saturn posited in 7H (foreign stay) may also> > indicate staying abroad as it has great say about career here.> >> > Saturn is exalted in 10H - means debilitated in 4H. So,> > active saturn will give good career but separation from> > home. Also saturn in 7H may indicate separtion from> > spouse.> >> > So, overall staying abroad is indicated.> >> > Am I on the right track ? Just yes / partly yes /no will do.> >> > Best of regards> >> > Chakraborty> >> >> >> <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=17588172/grpspId=1705082686/\> msgI> > d=5820/stime=1198657137/nc1=4706130/nc2=5045819/nc3=4725796>> >> > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway. The> information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to> this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and> may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you> are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute> or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy> all copies of this message and any attachments.> >>

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sreenadhji,agreed that Mercury is the MD and Venus is the AD. But in this chart, Mercury is with malefic Sun and Venus though in his own house is with malefic mars and rahu.Venus AD has been there for the native between 2005 Mar and 2008 Feb - Why is it that individual has lost his job during this period?I think it is due to maleficsSun, Venus are giving Viparita raja yoga and so by end of 2008 his job troubles might be overcomeI am trying to learn and am making many mistakes - Sreenadhji, pls. bear with me and forgive me for my lack in undertandingRegardskiranSreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear Chakraborty ji, As a re-thought I would like to add this: Also note that it is NOT Saturn but Mercury (the dasa lord; 9th lord) combined with Ve (10th lord; job) that is going to give rajayoga and job change now. Also note that he may get a chance to take her wife along with after some period of time, possibly in 2008-2010 period. . But your thought was in the RIGHT direction, Saturn in 7th too is a contributing factor, and another planet signifying similar effects like 'going abroad' . :)Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> > Dear Chakraborty ji,> Yes, well

done! Right track. > Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , "Chakraborty, PL"> CHAKRABORTYP2@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sreenadh-ji,> >> > Feedbacks on some of the facts.> >> > He got his 1st job in 1998-99.> >> > Yes, there is a change in career. his 1st offer was for Inspection> > Engineer.. now changed to a Project Engineer (construction).> > Expected date of joining - Jan'08.> >> > Yes, l, he is good in many areas. Overlapping skills in> > engg and practical HR.> >> > Just a thinking on my part. Please correct me if I am going wrong.> >> > Saturn is lagna lord and 2H lord also and in Parivartana with> > Moon in 2H. So, saturn posited in 7H (foreign stay) may also> > indicate staying abroad as

it has great say about career here.> >> > Saturn is exalted in 10H - means debilitated in 4H. So,> > active saturn will give good career but separation from> > home. Also saturn in 7H may indicate separtion from> > spouse.> >> > So, overall staying abroad is indicated.> >> > Am I on the right track ? Just yes / partly yes /no will do.> >> > Best of regards> >> > Chakraborty> >> >> >> <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=17588172/grpspId=1705082686/\> msgI> > d=5820/stime=1198657137/nc1=4706130/nc2=5045819/nc3=4725796>> >> > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway. The> information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to> this message are intended for the exclusive

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Dear Kiran ji, In this chart Mercury is the 9th (trikona) lord and Venus is the 10th (Kendra) lord. Both mercury and Venus are their in own house, and the Dasa-Antara combination of Kenra-Triknona Adhipa provides a powerful Rajayoga, at this period. It is NOT a 'lose of job', but only a 'change of job', opted by the native for a better position/better income/better carrier. Love and regards,Sreenadh , Kiran R <kiran.rama wrote:>> sreenadhji,> > agreed that Mercury is the MD and Venus is the AD. > But in this chart, Mercury is with malefic Sun and Venus though in his own house is with malefic mars and rahu.> > Venus AD has been there for the native between 2005 Mar and 2008 Feb - Why is it that individual has lost his job during this period?> > I think it is due to malefics> Sun, Venus are giving Viparita raja yoga and so by end of 2008 his job troubles might be overcome> > I am trying to learn and am making many mistakes - Sreenadhji, pls. bear with me and forgive me for my lack in undertanding> > Regards> kiran> > Sreenadh sreesog wrote: > Dear Chakraborty ji,> As a re-thought I would like to add this: Also note that it is NOT Saturn but Mercury (the dasa lord; 9th lord) combined with Ve (10th lord; job) that is going to give rajayoga and job change now. Also note that he may get a chance to take her wife along with after some period of time, possibly in 2008-2010 period. . But your thought was in the RIGHT direction, Saturn in 7th too is a contributing factor, and another planet signifying similar effects like 'going abroad' . > Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , "Sreenadh" sreesog@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Chakraborty ji,> > Yes, well done! Right track. > > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > , "Chakraborty, PL"> > CHAKRABORTYP2@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh-ji,> > >> > > Feedbacks on some of the facts.> > >> > > He got his 1st job in 1998-99.> > >> > > Yes, there is a change in career. his 1st offer was for Inspection> > > Engineer.. now changed to a Project Engineer (construction).> > > Expected date of joining - Jan'08.> > >> > > Yes, l, he is good in many areas. Overlapping skills in> > > engg and practical HR.> > >> > > Just a thinking on my part. Please correct me if I am going wrong.> > >> > > Saturn is lagna lord and 2H lord also and in Parivartana with> > > Moon in 2H. So, saturn posited in 7H (foreign stay) may also> > > indicate staying abroad as it has great say about career here.> > >> > > Saturn is exalted in 10H - means debilitated in 4H. So,> > > active saturn will give good career but separation from> > > home. Also saturn in 7H may indicate separtion from> > > spouse.> > >> > > So, overall staying abroad is indicated.> > >> > > Am I on the right track ? Just yes / partly yes /no will do.> > >> > > Best of regards> > >> > > Chakraborty> > >> > >> > >> > <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=17588172/grpspId=1705082686/\> > msgI> > > d=5820/stime=1198657137/nc1=4706130/nc2=5045819/nc3=4725796>> > >> > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway. The> > information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to> > this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and> > may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you> > are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute> > or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy> > all copies of this message and any attachments.> > >> >> > > > > > > > Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin.>

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Mantreswara in Phaladeepika says that malefic in any house will destroy the things signified by the house.In this case Venus is which malefic Sun, Mercury is with Malefic Mars and Rahu.So the malefics should totally destroy what is signified by the 9th and 10th house causing ill - luck and loss of job.WHy is this not happeningRegardskiranSreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear Kiran ji, In this

chart Mercury is the 9th (trikona) lord and Venus is the 10th (Kendra) lord. Both mercury and Venus are their in own house, and the Dasa-Antara combination of Kenra-Triknona Adhipa provides a powerful Rajayoga, at this period. It is NOT a 'lose of job', but only a 'change of job', opted by the native for a better position/better income/better carrier. Love and regards,Sreenadh , Kiran R <kiran.rama wrote:>> sreenadhji,> > agreed that Mercury is the MD and Venus is the AD. > But in this chart, Mercury is with malefic Sun and Venus though in his own house is with malefic mars and rahu.> > Venus AD has been there for the native between 2005 Mar and 2008 Feb - Why is it that individual has lost his job during this period?> > I think it is due to

malefics> Sun, Venus are giving Viparita raja yoga and so by end of 2008 his job troubles might be overcome> > I am trying to learn and am making many mistakes - Sreenadhji, pls. bear with me and forgive me for my lack in undertanding> > Regards> kiran> > Sreenadh sreesog wrote: > Dear Chakraborty ji,> As a re-thought I would like to add this: Also note that it is NOT Saturn but Mercury (the dasa lord; 9th lord) combined with Ve (10th lord; job) that is going to give rajayoga and job change now. Also note that he may get a chance to take her wife along with after some period of time, possibly in 2008-2010 period. . But your thought was in the RIGHT direction, Saturn in 7th too is a contributing factor, and another planet signifying similar effects like 'going abroad' . > Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > ,

"Sreenadh" sreesog@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Chakraborty ji,> > Yes, well done! Right track. > > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > , "Chakraborty, PL"> > CHAKRABORTYP2@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh-ji,> > >> > > Feedbacks on some of the facts.> > >> > > He got his 1st job in 1998-99.> > >> > > Yes, there is a change in career. his 1st offer was for Inspection> > > Engineer.. now changed to a Project Engineer (construction).> > > Expected date of joining - Jan'08.> > >> > > Yes, l, he is good in many areas. Overlapping skills in> > > engg and practical HR.> > >> > > Just a thinking on my part. Please correct me if I am going

wrong.> > >> > > Saturn is lagna lord and 2H lord also and in Parivartana with> > > Moon in 2H. So, saturn posited in 7H (foreign stay) may also> > > indicate staying abroad as it has great say about career here.> > >> > > Saturn is exalted in 10H - means debilitated in 4H. So,> > > active saturn will give good career but separation from> > > home. Also saturn in 7H may indicate separtion from> > > spouse.> > >> > > So, overall staying abroad is indicated.> > >> > > Am I on the right track ? Just yes / partly yes /no will do.> > >> > > Best of regards> > >> > > Chakraborty> > >> > >> > >> > <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=17588172/grpspId=1705082686/\> >

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Dear Kiran ji, Nothing will get totally destructed and cancellation of results does not apply to astrology. :=) No planet is that malecious nor will be able to destroy a house completly (i.e. the thousands of things signified by the house), but the malefic effect apply only to specific things for which the significance of both the planet and house matches and also ONLY in the relevent dasa and antara. Every planet will give their corresponding results, and the combination its own result - in their respecitve periods. The beginners lesson (the pdf I gave you) is just the general reading only and the corollaries and special cases are many. And this is the fundamental reason - I advised you NOT TO INSIST that the reading based on such generalizations will be TOTALLY true, even though their is a fair chance of getting many things right. Believe in statements - but not blindly, espcially when they are general statements that are trying their level best to be in tune with truth. Because for all toomuch generalization statements the chance of going them wrong is inherent. Love and regards,Sreenadh , Kiran R <kiran.rama wrote:>> Mantreswara in Phaladeepika says that malefic in any house will destroy the things signified by the house.> > In this case Venus is which malefic Sun, Mercury is with Malefic Mars and Rahu.> So the malefics should totally destroy what is signified by the 9th and 10th house causing ill - luck and loss of job.> > WHy is this not happening> > Regards> kiran> > Sreenadh sreesog wrote: > Dear Kiran ji,> In this chart Mercury is the 9th (trikona) lord and Venus is the 10th (Kendra) lord. Both mercury and Venus are their in own house, and the Dasa-Antara combination of Kenra-Triknona Adhipa provides a powerful Rajayoga, at this period. > It is NOT a 'lose of job', but only a 'change of job', opted by the native for a better position/better income/better carrier. > Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , Kiran R kiran.rama@ wrote:> >> > sreenadhji,> > > > agreed that Mercury is the MD and Venus is the AD. > > But in this chart, Mercury is with malefic Sun and Venus though in his own house is with malefic mars and rahu.> > > > Venus AD has been there for the native between 2005 Mar and 2008 Feb - Why is it that individual has lost his job during this period?> > > > I think it is due to malefics> > Sun, Venus are giving Viparita raja yoga and so by end of 2008 his job troubles might be overcome> > > > I am trying to learn and am making many mistakes - Sreenadhji, pls. bear with me and forgive me for my lack in undertanding> > > > Regards> > kiran> > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote: > > Dear Chakraborty ji,> > As a re-thought I would like to add this: Also note that it is NOT Saturn but Mercury (the dasa lord; 9th lord) combined with Ve (10th lord; job) that is going to give rajayoga and job change now. Also note that he may get a chance to take her wife along with after some period of time, possibly in 2008-2010 period. . But your thought was in the RIGHT direction, Saturn in 7th too is a contributing factor, and another planet signifying similar effects like 'going abroad' . > > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > , "Sreenadh" sreesog@ wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear Chakraborty ji,> > > Yes, well done! Right track. > > > Love and regards,> > > Sreenadh> > > > > > , "Chakraborty, PL"> > > CHAKRABORTYP2@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sreenadh-ji,> > > >> > > > Feedbacks on some of the facts.> > > >> > > > He got his 1st job in 1998-99.> > > >> > > > Yes, there is a change in career. his 1st offer was for Inspection> > > > Engineer.. now changed to a Project Engineer (construction).> > > > Expected date of joining - Jan'08.> > > >> > > > Yes, l, he is good in many areas. Overlapping skills in> > > > engg and practical HR.> > > >> > > > Just a thinking on my part. Please correct me if I am going wrong.> > > >> > > > Saturn is lagna lord and 2H lord also and in Parivartana with> > > > Moon in 2H. So, saturn posited in 7H (foreign stay) may also> > > > indicate staying abroad as it has great say about career here.> > > >> > > > Saturn is exalted in 10H - means debilitated in 4H. So,> > > > active saturn will give good career but separation from> > > > home. Also saturn in 7H may indicate separtion from> > > > spouse.> > > >> > > > So, overall staying abroad is indicated.> > > >> > > > Am I on the right track ? Just yes / partly yes /no will do.> > > >> > > > Best of regards> > > >> > > > Chakraborty> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=17588172/grpspId=1705082686/\> > > msgI> > > > d=5820/stime=1198657137/nc1=4706130/nc2=5045819/nc3=4725796>> > > >> > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway. 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