Guest guest Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 Dear Sreenadh ji and other members, When I am going through this thread, I have the following questions w.r.t to neecha bhanga arising in my mind. 1) What happens if a planet becomes neecha in Navamsa but exalted in Rasi chart? How much power, it loses? 2) Is there a bhanga for Navamsa too? (Neecha banga). If yes, can you please elobarate on it, on what conditions bhanga can happen in navamsa? 3) In Rasi chart, in what conditions neecha bhanga can happen? I have read in many articles about it but totally confused. As of now, my understanding is: when a planet is neecha, if the depositor planet is ucha/rule and being in kendra to moon. Is there any other conditions? 3) Lets say, a planet neecha in navamsa. When we super-impose the navamsa chart with rasi chart, this neecha planet lies in kendra/trikona from lagna ascendant. So is this neecha effect gets reduced due to position? Regards, Dhanapal Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear Srinivas ji, A Neechagraha providing Rajayoga is like a unkind, ruthless, money minded, petty man making more money by lending it for high interest, devastating the life of many. As we can clearly see in this example, the debilitated planet clearly played its role (by making the native a neecha, debilitated/uncultured/unkind individual during its dasa), but due to the bhanga (i.e. if Neechabhanga is present in horoscope), he becomes wealthy by utilizing his malecious quolities, and thus it is termed Rajayoga! So the point is, "The results predicted for both -1. Planet in debilitation and 2. for Neecha bhanga Rajayoga - apply". This itself is the beauty of astrology and that is why the dictum - "No cancellation of results in astrology". If you provide an example chart - I will clarify it with going to the details of related results. Note: It seems that there are too many netizons with debilitated planets in this era of Rahu as Sunil ji puts it! All neechas are getting activated (and too many free reading requests comes), and now the subject neechagrha rules the group. :)Love and regards,Sreenadh , "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote:>> > Dear Members,> > It appears from all the details posted on the debilitated planets that> they are the most desirable things in an horoscope for they are seen or> {Made to see only good} giving excellent results.....> > The fact is that it cannot be !! that excellent as it is being made to> ........I did cast few hororscopes with the provided data, if one were> to truthfully interpret and predict surely some personal things would> surface.....I am not sure if the respective members would be equally> truthful in accepting them or provide a truthful account of events....> > All that is painted green is not that green.....{ on the subject of> debilitated planets...} else, astrology as stated in the scriptures> needs to be ignored.....or forgotten....which for all reasons being the> words of wisdome from our rishis or seers......there is greater truth in> their sayings.....> > with regards,> > sreeram_srinivas> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 Dear Dhanapal ji, ==> > 1) What happens if a planet becomes neecha in Navamsa but exalted in Rasi chart? How much power, it loses? <== First drop all these too much generalizations such as speaking about 'how much power' etc, and ask " what are the result for x planet in y sign debilitated in Navamsa " ; then some body may provide you the results for - 1) For Planet in that sign/house 2) That specific planet in the specific namvamsa. Similar to the 7-fold system used for natal chart result derivation, it is the 7-fold system itself that is used for result derivation using Navamsa (Please don't start confusing and start saying like Krishna ji, that I am speaking about some Navamsa chart. NO! I am just speaking about the navamsa positions of the planets present in the Natal chart) ==> > 2) Is there a bhanga for Navamsa too? (Neecha banga). If yes, can you please elobarate on it, on what conditions bhanga can happen in navamsa? <== Yes, as everybody knows 10 degree Libra is the maximum debilitation degree of Sun. If the Navamsa sputa (Navamsa longitude; i.e. longitude of planet x 9) falls on Libra 10 degree, you can say that the planet is maximum debilitated in Navamsa too. But separate results for the same is NOT given in astro classics - if you wish to go into such depths even before learning/understanding the fundamental question of " How to predict with Natal chart? " , then of course " Wish you a happy journy, bye " means " Go alone " . :=) ==> > 3) In Rasi chart, in what conditions neecha bhanga can happen? <== Simply put, if any 'planet' (excluding sun, Moon, Rahu, Ketu) are there in the Kendra of the debilitated planet consider that the 'bhanga' occurred and so proceed with speaking out the result for both - 1) Debilitation 2) The said Bhanga yoga modifying both the results accordingly. Be bold in doing this, because " No results gets cancelled " . ==> > 3) Lets say, a planet neecha in navamsa. When we super-impose the navamsa chart with rasi chart, this neecha planet lies in kendra/trikona from lagna ascendant. So is this neecha effect gets reduced due to position? <== There is no 'reduction' or 'amplification' or 'POWER' :) In such a case, just simply speak-out - 1) the results for that planet in that navamsa (sign) 2) the results for that planet in that navamsa (house), from natal lagna. Thus you will get 2 folds (Sign-Planet Base & House-Planet Base) right. Imagine and try to learn how you can apply the remaining 5 folds of the predictive system in Navamsa, and try to see how the sages did it. Note: Currently I am not much interested in " application of 7-fold in Navamsa based result derivation " , because we are yet to cover the same even in Natal chart. So 'wish you a happy journey, bye' Love and regards, Sreenadh , Dhanpal <dhans_magnet wrote: > > Dear Sreenadh ji and other members, > > When I am going through this thread, I have the following questions w.r.t to neecha bhanga arising in my mind. > > 1) What happens if a planet becomes neecha in Navamsa but exalted in Rasi chart? How much power, it loses? > 2) Is there a bhanga for Navamsa too? (Neecha banga). If yes, can you please elobarate on it, on what conditions bhanga can happen in navamsa? > 3) In Rasi chart, in what conditions neecha bhanga can happen? I have read in many articles about it but totally confused. As of now, my understanding is: when a planet is neecha, if the depositor planet is ucha/rule and being in kendra to moon. Is there any other conditions? > > 3) Lets say, a planet neecha in navamsa. When we super-impose the navamsa chart with rasi chart, this neecha planet lies in kendra/trikona from lagna ascendant. So is this neecha effect gets reduced due to position? > > Regards, > Dhanapal > > > > > > Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: > Dear Srinivas ji, > A Neechagraha providing Rajayoga is like a unkind, ruthless, money minded, petty man making more money by lending it for high interest, devastating the life of many. As we can clearly see in this example, the debilitated planet clearly played its role (by making the native a neecha, debilitated/uncultured/unkind individual during its dasa), but due to the bhanga (i.e. if Neechabhanga is present in horoscope), he becomes wealthy by utilizing his malecious quolities, and thus it is termed Rajayoga! > So the point is, " The results predicted for both -1. Planet in debilitation and 2. for Neecha bhanga Rajayoga - apply " . This itself is the beauty of astrology and that is why the dictum - " No cancellation of results in astrology " . > If you provide an example chart - I will clarify it with going to the details of related results. > Note: It seems that there are too many netizons with debilitated planets in this era of Rahu as Sunil ji puts it! All neechas are getting activated (and too many free reading requests comes), and now the subject neechagrha rules the group. :) > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > It appears from all the details posted on the debilitated planets that > > they are the most desirable things in an horoscope for they are seen or > > {Made to see only good} giving excellent results..... > > > > The fact is that it cannot be !! that excellent as it is being made to > > ........I did cast few hororscopes with the provided data, if one were > > to truthfully interpret and predict surely some personal things would > > surface.....I am not sure if the respective members would be equally > > truthful in accepting them or provide a truthful account of events.... > > > > All that is painted green is not that green.....{ on the subject of > > debilitated planets...} else, astrology as stated in the scriptures > > needs to be ignored.....or forgotten....which for all reasons being the > > words of wisdome from our rishis or seers......there is greater truth in > > their sayings..... > > > > with regards, > > > > sreeram_srinivas > > Never miss a thing. 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