Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Dear all, I have jupiter and mars both are neecha, with jupiter in lagna and mars in 7th house ,am i a convict or normal person, coz i remeber one person told that i would kill somebody and be imprisioned during my 16th age,but i hardly even killed a fly.can u explain about this neecha neecha aspect. Regards, Kumar Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: Dear Hari, What you are saying could be quite correct. Recently, while analysing a blind chart which had Jupiter and Mars exalted and aspecting each other, I rated the person very high. It was a total flop for me. Later, I came to know that it is a chart of a famous convict who was convicted for abusing his wife in the US. Some people term this combination as 'Ucchabhanga'. But, we also have such a combination in Shri Rama's chart ... Regards, Krishnahashmi963 <hashmi963 > wrote: While looking for exalted planet in Horoscope, please look for any other planet stand exalted. There is a say in Malayalam'Uchane, Uchan Nokkiyal Picha thendum'If exalted, aspects another exalted there is misery indicated.Some astrologers miscalculated this theory and landed in trouble.If there are two planets exalted and it aspects each other, there will be ego clash between them and the native will become begger(instead of Tendulkar)RegardsHari , "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote:>> > Dear Sairamanji,> > As usual you have shared so much of good data from your experiences -> excellent. It is a valuable piece of information.> > In my private emails to few members, I have communicated that exalted> planets indicate strengths of the native rather than Exalted "profiles"> !! I have some good collection of exalted planets hororscopes in all of> them they are living very ordinary lifes, but their confidence levels> are extremely good, would rebound - resilence - retorts are> instantaneous. I took the cue of Lord Ram, living in Jungles / Forest> inspite of a exalted combinations.> > I would communicate separately with you offline to get little more> specific details on the shared information {refer your original email> below}, so that privacy is maintained, later would post the summary in> the group for everyones benefit. { Hope you do not mind it- for my> queries would specific to the karatatwa of the debilitated planet}> > Thanks again for giving your inputs> > with regards,> > Sreeram_Srinivas> > > , sairam nat> <sairaman53@> wrote:> > GOOD MORNING ALLC MEMBERS> > regarding neecha gragha it seems to give good results generally whether> cancellation ornot> > i have seen most of people with venus , mars , saturn deblitated are> well off in life in every sense> > wife having mercury neecha 10 3 1959 saturn star cancer lagna cleared> mercury dasa in meena with good job marriage job et etc nothingshort> > father had venusdebitated in virgo with mithuna lagna 15 11 1924 had> venus dasa financially welloff goodhouse etc etc> > i am having mars deblitated 7th lord for rishabha lagna 31 7 1953 having> everything in life goodwife marriewd for 22 year no breaks good job> children parents house everything mars has not denied anything (except> no blood brothersand sisters) ofcourse good lot of nice cousins> > How3ever i have seen many friends relatives having ucha planets> suffering lot in every sense 11 5 1967 c ancer lagna moon str moon ,> jupiter sun exalgted now running jupiter period not able to earn nojob> no marriage no house father left mother very early (not died) good> person not able to earn even 2000 pm could not find any reason for such> failures in life himself an astrologer profesional with very min. income> > another relative had jupiter in lagna had his dasa struggled and died in> the dasa itself (19 10 1919 ) cancer lagna (he expected very big from> the dasa died at 64 years in jupiter saturn)> > so members pls do not worry about neecha planets and deo not expect much> from exalted planets as told in dictums> > most of cancer lagna people well off in saturn dasa as its starts are in> 1, 5, 9 from lagna and suffer in mars dasa as its stars are in 4, 8 12> th houses from cancer lagna> > father had sun deblitated in libra had 38 years of govt. service> > mother having saturn in 7th house had marriage at 18 years mars in 2nd> house for leo lagna every thing ok including raghu in 5th having son> together even at 72 years no problem> > see whether enemy slow moving malefics suqaring them and friendly> planets 5,9,3,11 to them> > neecha is not a big draw back in a horoscope as i see purely personal> view each one may have their own experience and views> > > thank y all with kind and warm regards> > SAIRAMAN 18 TH DEC 2007 6 34 AM> > we have to take a wholeview ofthe things in a hors.> > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > Hare ramakrishna ,> dear group and respected memebers .> > Generaly says a neecha planets gives bad results in its dasa and its> karakatwa results and even rasi results ..So mercury debilated may giv> learning or speaking or expressing ideas problems and as 9th lord if> debilated it can deny the comfort of father .Some says if planets are> debilated and attains neecha bhanga (cancellation of debility ) then it> will first giv bad results and then after struggles and grinding it> gives good status and position.> > I would like to discuss the effects of neechagrahas (debilated ) and> various raja yogas it can giv while being planet in neecha .> It says planets positioned in dustana if debilated give rise to raja> yogas .> > also when a planet obtains the cancellation of nechatwa ,its known as> neecha bhanga raja yogas .> Also if planet is neecha in rasi and ucha in navamsa hence attained> neechabhanga .> > Now any body can post their charts who has any significant event during> the dasas of these planets with chart details .Pls make sure that the> dasa is over and we know all results for sure .> I request every body to stay away from posting for a reading if the> said planets dasa is yet to start or is in own or kids charts for> knowing the results .> > Here we r studying the results with known events ,so pls post charts> with events of ur or known frnds or realtives .> pls post as many as charts with known events to verify the qulaity of> this dasa and planets .But pls stick to the tread by posting relevent> charts at right time of discussion .If u post like 7 charts at a time> may be we cannot follow the discussion in proper way .> i request sreenivasji to initiate the discussion and then all respected> memebers can contribute .> > > regrds sunil nair ,> om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. 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Guest guest Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Exalted planets, exalted - egos or vanity or problems, quick reactions or fast thinking....etc.. Debilitated planets - low self esteem, slow reaction or thinking...etc.. Personally, my own experience in many charts is that though the classics have mentioned neechabhanga..etc., but in reality only seen some level of moderation, else on standalone basis, people were seen people could not achieve or do what they wanted or aspired for. Example: A debilitated planet in 6H would give good " argumental or Bruce Willis of Die Hard " fame nature !!, good in defence i.e. be it be argument or strategy...etc.. tiring out the enemies or diseases will tire the native !! Wherease the exalted planets indicate its ability to win over enemies....through sheer competition...... Debilitated Mars indicates spontaneous extreme fits of anger.....{kindly confirm} with regards, sreeram_srinivas , hit man <hit_man334 wrote: Dear all, I have jupiter and mars both are neecha, with jupiter in lagna and mars in 7th house ,am i a convict or normal person, coz i remeber one person told that i would kill somebody and be imprisioned during my 16th age,but i hardly even killed a fly.can u explain about this neecha neecha aspect. Regards, Kumar Krishnamurthy Seetharama krishna_1998 wrote: Dear Hari, What you are saying could be quite correct. Recently, while analysing a blind chart which had Jupiter and Mars exalted and aspecting each other, I rated the person very high. It was a total flop for me. Later, I came to know that it is a chart of a famous convict who was convicted for abusing his wife in the US. Some people term this combination as 'Ucchabhanga'. But, we also have such a combination in Shri Rama's chart ... Regards, Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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