Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Dear Jyothi and all, If you see this chart with the eyes of KAS, you may find the solution. 1. Ju is in libra with strong 6 bindus. Therefore Ju apects 7th house with malefic sight. 2. Ju is spoiled being in libra. 3. Ju is 6th lord.Marriage happened during MD/AD of Ju. 4. Ju is weak with 8 bindus in WS for 7th house matter.Marriage date could have been postponed till Ju AD was running. 5. Its lagna has 34 SAV points and 7th house has only 19 points. So difference of points are large. 6.The divorce took place in the AD of Saturn who has strong points for 2nd and 7th house. Sooner Sa AD started the marriage broke. 7. Lastly there are three zeros in SAV natal chart. Ma contributes one zero for 4th and Saturn contributes one zero each for 7th and 8th house. This chart indicates more delay and the marriage took place before the ripe period. Actually marriage could have taken place after 24 May 2007. So this marriage broke due to involvement of Ju being in libra and in lagna and also as 6th lord AND not as you are saying Ma as 7th lord in 12th and combines with Sa. Actually the placement of Ma and Sa in 12th for 7th house matter is good. This is the difference between VA and KAS. You may analyse more and more chart in which 7th lord in 12th but according to the peinciples based on KAS. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishrajyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi wrote: Dear Sir,For Libra Asc Guru is a malefic. That too 6th lord(12th of 7th). So Guru's aspect should not be considered as favourable for married life. Guru's aspect being 6th lord aspecting 7th will create hostility with partner. The reason for divorce is obvious. 7th lord Mars in 12th, that too in its enemey sign is one of the main reason for divorce. I have obsereved this in many divorce charts and had mentioned in one of my previous posts.Regards,Jyothi , dushyant trivedi <trivedi20 wrote:>> Dear Learned Astrologers,> > I have come across a horoscope of a educated girl intelligent and well employed in Multination who got divorced almost immediately after marriage with aparent difficult to understand astrologolically. The birth details are as under> > DOB 8th Jan 1982> TOB 01.32 am> POB Vadodara, Gujarat formally known as Baroda> > The above details are correct.> > Married in the month of may/june 2006. The Boy was working in London. She joined him after few months in London and almost within a week she was sent back to India by the Boy's family. Officially divoced tok place during Nov 2007.> > The girl has Libra ascendant with Guru in it and aspecting the 7th house. The marriage took place in Guru Mahadasha and also got divorced. Astrologically the aspect of Guru on the 7th house should give god and happy married life but the it is not so in this case. > > She has Mars and Saturn in the 17th house. The Saturn is in Parivartan yoga with Mercury in the 4th house. Exalted Moon in the 8th house and Rahu and Ketu are also exalted. As such there is no affliction to the 7th house then why the divorce?> > D D Trivedi> > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.> Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Dear Ramesh and Group, Here both Ramesh and I analysed this chart using our laws of KAS and came to similar result. This shows the laws of KAS and analysis based there on concrete and scientific footing and 2 astrologers using KAS will invariably come to same conclusion. J Thanks Ramesh, Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of ramesh mishra Friday December 21, 2007 8:17 AM Subject: Re:Reason for Divorce Dear Jyothi and all, If you see this chart with the eyes of KAS, you may find the solution. 1. Ju is in libra with strong 6 bindus. Therefore Ju apects 7th house with malefic sight. 2. Ju is spoiled being in libra. 3. Ju is 6th lord.Marriage happened during MD/AD of Ju. 4. Ju is weak with 8 bindus in WS for 7th house matter.Marriage date could have been postponed till Ju AD was running. 5. Its lagna has 34 SAV points and 7th house has only 19 points. So difference of points are large. 6.The divorce took place in the AD of Saturn who has strong points for 2nd and 7th house. Sooner Sa AD started the marriage broke. 7. Lastly there are three zeros in SAV natal chart. Ma contributes one zero for 4th and Saturn contributes one zero each for 7th and 8th house. This chart indicates more delay and the marriage took place before the ripe period. Actually marriage could have taken place after 24 May 2007. So this marriage broke due to involvement of Ju being in libra and in lagna and also as 6th lord AND not as you are saying Ma as 7th lord in 12th and combines with Sa. Actually the placement of Ma and Sa in 12th for 7th house matter is good. This is the difference between VA and KAS. You may analyse more and more chart in which 7th lord in 12th but according to the peinciples based on KAS. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Sir, For Libra Asc Guru is a malefic. That too 6th lord(12th of 7th). So Guru's aspect should not be considered as favourable for married life. Guru's aspect being 6th lord aspecting 7th will create hostility with partner. The reason for divorce is obvious. 7th lord Mars in 12th, that too in its enemey sign is one of the main reason for divorce. I have obsereved this in many divorce charts and had mentioned in one of my previous posts. Regards, Jyothi , dushyant trivedi <trivedi20 wrote: > > Dear Learned Astrologers, > > I have come across a horoscope of a educated girl intelligent and well employed in Multination who got divorced almost immediately after marriage with aparent difficult to understand astrologolically. The birth details are as under > > DOB 8th Jan 1982 > TOB 01.32 am > POB Vadodara, Gujarat formally known as Baroda > > The above details are correct. > > Married in the month of may/june 2006. The Boy was working in London. She joined him after few months in London and almost within a week she was sent back to India by the Boy's family. Officially divoced tok place during Nov 2007. > > The girl has Libra ascendant with Guru in it and aspecting the 7th house. The marriage took place in Guru Mahadasha and also got divorced. Astrologically the aspect of Guru on the 7th house should give god and happy married life but the it is not so in this case. > > She has Mars and Saturn in the 17th house. The Saturn is in Parivartan yoga with Mercury in the 4th house. Exalted Moon in the 8th house and Rahu and Ketu are also exalted. As such there is no affliction to the 7th house then why the divorce? > > D D Trivedi > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Dear Ramesh, I am sorry, I just sent my analysis on this chart as well and after that I read your mail. You have covered all points that I also tried to cover J Your mail and mine, both our analysis using KAS is same. This is not a small thing and it also highlights the power of using a concrete set of rules to base all the analysis on. That was also a part of discussion I was having with Jyothi, on testing the veracity of any ayanamsa, the pre-requisite should be a concrete rules, that work consistently on all charts or even a very large % of the charts like in excess of 80% to 90%. Thanks for analyzing this chart in detail. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of ramesh mishra Friday December 21, 2007 8:17 AM Subject: Re:Reason for Divorce Dear Jyothi and all, If you see this chart with the eyes of KAS, you may find the solution. 1. Ju is in libra with strong 6 bindus. Therefore Ju apects 7th house with malefic sight. 2. Ju is spoiled being in libra. 3. Ju is 6th lord.Marriage happened during MD/AD of Ju. 4. Ju is weak with 8 bindus in WS for 7th house matter.Marriage date could have been postponed till Ju AD was running. 5. Its lagna has 34 SAV points and 7th house has only 19 points. So difference of points are large. 6.The divorce took place in the AD of Saturn who has strong points for 2nd and 7th house. Sooner Sa AD started the marriage broke. 7. Lastly there are three zeros in SAV natal chart. Ma contributes one zero for 4th and Saturn contributes one zero each for 7th and 8th house. This chart indicates more delay and the marriage took place before the ripe period. Actually marriage could have taken place after 24 May 2007. So this marriage broke due to involvement of Ju being in libra and in lagna and also as 6th lord AND not as you are saying Ma as 7th lord in 12th and combines with Sa. Actually the placement of Ma and Sa in 12th for 7th house matter is good. This is the difference between VA and KAS. You may analyse more and more chart in which 7th lord in 12th but according to the peinciples based on KAS. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Sir, For Libra Asc Guru is a malefic. That too 6th lord(12th of 7th). So Guru's aspect should not be considered as favourable for married life. Guru's aspect being 6th lord aspecting 7th will create hostility with partner. The reason for divorce is obvious. 7th lord Mars in 12th, that too in its enemey sign is one of the main reason for divorce. I have obsereved this in many divorce charts and had mentioned in one of my previous posts. Regards, Jyothi , dushyant trivedi <trivedi20 wrote: > > Dear Learned Astrologers, > > I have come across a horoscope of a educated girl intelligent and well employed in Multination who got divorced almost immediately after marriage with aparent difficult to understand astrologolically. The birth details are as under > > DOB 8th Jan 1982 > TOB 01.32 am > POB Vadodara, Gujarat formally known as Baroda > > The above details are correct. > > Married in the month of may/june 2006. The Boy was working in London. She joined him after few months in London and almost within a week she was sent back to India by the Boy's family. Officially divoced tok place during Nov 2007. > > The girl has Libra ascendant with Guru in it and aspecting the 7th house. The marriage took place in Guru Mahadasha and also got divorced. Astrologically the aspect of Guru on the 7th house should give god and happy married life but the it is not so in this case. > > She has Mars and Saturn in the 17th house. The Saturn is in Parivartan yoga with Mercury in the 4th house. Exalted Moon in the 8th house and Rahu and Ketu are also exalted. As such there is no affliction to the 7th house then why the divorce? > > D D Trivedi > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Dear Learned Astrologers responding to Reason for Divorce, Fundamentally it is stated that Jupiter is Natural benefic planet and its aspect is considered. Secondly Saturn is a Yog Karaka planet for Libra Ascendant and finally Moon is exalted and it is many times stated that when Moon is strong then one may consider rashi chart for prediction where Taurus becomes lagna. In that case too Saturn becomes yoga karaka. Are these not enough to give stable marriage. Of course the results indicate otherwise. Now would it have been possible to advice before marriage as not to get married of avoid marriage now and wait for a later date. Will she in future if gets married likely to have a stable and happy mariage? D D Trivedi Ash <kas wrote: Dear Ramesh, I am sorry, I just sent my analysis on this chart as well and after that I read your mail. You have covered all points that I also tried to cover J Your mail and mine, both our analysis using KAS is same. This is not a small thing and it also highlights the power of using a concrete set of rules to base all the analysis on. That was also a part of discussion I was having with Jyothi, on testing the veracity of any ayanamsa, the pre-requisite should be a concrete rules, that work consistently on all charts or even a very large % of the charts like in excess of 80% to 90%. Thanks for analyzing this chart in detail. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of ramesh mishraFriday December 21, 2007 8:17 AM Subject: Re:Reason for Divorce Dear Jyothi and all, If you see this chart with the eyes of KAS, you may find the solution. 1. Ju is in libra with strong 6 bindus. Therefore Ju apects 7th house with malefic sight. 2. Ju is spoiled being in libra. 3. Ju is 6th lord.Marriage happened during MD/AD of Ju. 4. Ju is weak with 8 bindus in WS for 7th house matter.Marriage date could have been postponed till Ju AD was running. 5. Its lagna has 34 SAV points and 7th house has only 19 points. So difference of points are large. 6.The divorce took place in the AD of Saturn who has strong points for 2nd and 7th house. Sooner Sa AD started the marriage broke. 7. Lastly there are three zeros in SAV natal chart. Ma contributes one zero for 4th and Saturn contributes one zero each for 7th and 8th house. This chart indicates more delay and the marriage took place before the ripe period. Actually marriage could have taken place after 24 May 2007. So this marriage broke due to involvement of Ju being in libra and in lagna and also as 6th lord AND not as you are saying Ma as 7th lord in 12th and combines with Sa. Actually the placement of Ma and Sa in 12th for 7th house matter is good. This is the difference between VA and KAS. You may analyse more and more chart in which 7th lord in 12th but according to the peinciples based on KAS. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishrajyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Sir,For Libra Asc Guru is a malefic. That too 6th lord(12th of 7th). So Guru's aspect should not be considered as favourable for married life. Guru's aspect being 6th lord aspecting 7th will create hostility with partner. The reason for divorce is obvious. 7th lord Mars in 12th, that too in its enemey sign is one of the main reason for divorce. I have obsereved this in many divorce charts and had mentioned in one of my previous posts.Regards,Jyothi , dushyant trivedi <trivedi20 wrote:>> Dear Learned Astrologers,> > I have come across a horoscope of a educated girl intelligent and well employed in Multination who got divorced almost immediately after marriage with aparent difficult to understand astrologolically. The birth details are as under> > DOB 8th Jan 1982> TOB 01.32 am> POB Vadodara, Gujarat formally known as Baroda> > The above details are correct.> > Married in the month of may/june 2006. The Boy was working in London. She joined him after few months in London and almost within a week she was sent back to India by the Boy's family. Officially divoced tok place during Nov 2007.> > The girl has Libra ascendant with Guru in it and aspecting the 7th house. The marriage took place in Guru Mahadasha and also got divorced. Astrologically the aspect of Guru on the 7th house should give god and happy married life but the it is not so in this case. > > She has Mars and Saturn in the 17th house. The Saturn is in Parivartan yoga with Mercury in the 4th house. Exalted Moon in the 8th house and Rahu and Ketu are also exalted. As such there is no affliction to the 7th house then why the divorce?> > D D Trivedi> > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.> Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 hare ramakrishna , dear dudhyant ji , first we must learn the marriage points in chart . see it from all valid karakas so u must see it . for exmaple u say moon and why dont u see 8th from moon having 2 malefics . also so many valid matching principles also muhurta regrds sunil nair. om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , dushyant trivedi <trivedi20 wrote:>> Dear Learned Astrologers responding to Reason for Divorce,> > Fundamentally it is stated that Jupiter is Natural benefic planet and its aspect is considered. Secondly Saturn is a Yog Karaka planet for Libra Ascendant and finally Moon is exalted and it is many times stated that when Moon is strong then one may consider rashi chart for prediction where Taurus becomes lagna.> > In that case too Saturn becomes yoga karaka. Are these not enough to give stable marriage. Of course the results indicate otherwise. Now would it have been possible to advice before marriage as not to get married of avoid marriage now and wait for a later date. > > Will she in future if gets married likely to have a stable and happy mariage?> > D D Trivedi > > Ash kas wrote:> Dear Ramesh,> > I am sorry, I just sent my analysis on this chart as well and after that I read your mail. You have covered all points that I also tried to cover J > > Your mail and mine, both our analysis using KAS is same. This is not a small thing and it also highlights the power of using a concrete set of rules to base all the analysis on. That was also a part of discussion I was having with Jyothi, on testing the veracity of any ayanamsa, the pre-requisite should be a concrete rules, that work consistently on all charts or even a very large % of the charts like in excess of 80% to 90%.> > Thanks for analyzing this chart in detail. > > Cheers !!!> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > On Behalf Of ramesh mishra> Friday December 21, 2007 8:17 AM> > Re:Reason for Divorce> > > Dear Jyothi and all,> > If you see this chart with the eyes of KAS, you may find the solution.> > 1. Ju is in libra with strong 6 bindus. Therefore Ju apects 7th house with malefic sight.> > 2. Ju is spoiled being in libra.> > 3. Ju is 6th lord.Marriage happened during MD/AD of Ju.> > 4. Ju is weak with 8 bindus in WS for 7th house matter.Marriage date could have been postponed till Ju AD was running.> > 5. Its lagna has 34 SAV points and 7th house has only 19 points. So difference of points are large.> > 6.The divorce took place in the AD of Saturn who has strong points for 2nd and 7th house. Sooner Sa AD started the marriage broke.> > 7. Lastly there are three zeros in SAV natal chart. Ma contributes one zero for 4th and Saturn contributes one zero each for 7th and 8th house.> > This chart indicates more delay and the marriage took place before the ripe period.> > Actually marriage could have taken place after 24 May 2007.> > So this marriage broke due to involvement of Ju being in libra and in lagna and also as 6th lord AND> > not as you are saying Ma as 7th lord in 12th and combines with Sa.> > Actually the placement of Ma and Sa in 12th for 7th house matter is good.> > This is the difference between VA and KAS.> > You may analyse more and more chart in which 7th lord in 12th but according to the peinciples based on KAS.> > Thanks and regards.> > Ramesh Mishra> > jyothi_b_lakshmi jyothi_b_lakshmi wrote:> > Dear Sir,> > For Libra Asc Guru is a malefic. That too 6th lord(12th of 7th). So > Guru's aspect should not be considered as favourable for married > life. Guru's aspect being 6th lord aspecting 7th will create > hostility with partner. The reason for divorce is obvious. 7th lord > Mars in 12th, that too in its enemey sign is one of the main reason > for divorce. I have obsereved this in many divorce charts and had > mentioned in one of my previous posts.> > Regards,> Jyothi > > , dushyant trivedi > trivedi20@ wrote:> >> > Dear Learned Astrologers,> > > > I have come across a horoscope of a educated girl intelligent and > well employed in Multination who got divorced almost immediately > after marriage with aparent difficult to understand astrologolically. > The birth details are as under> > > > DOB 8th Jan 1982> > TOB 01.32 am> > POB Vadodara, Gujarat formally known as Baroda> > > > The above details are correct.> > > > > Married in the month of may/june 2006. The Boy was working in > London. She joined him after few months in London and almost within a > week she was sent back to India by the Boy's family. Officially > divoced tok place during Nov 2007.> > > > The girl has Libra ascendant with Guru in it and aspecting the > 7th house. The marriage took place in Guru Mahadasha and also got > divorced. Astrologically the aspect of Guru on the 7th house should > give god and happy married life but the it is not so in this case. > > > > She has Mars and Saturn in the 17th house. The Saturn is in > Parivartan yoga with Mercury in the 4th house. Exalted Moon in the > 8th house and Rahu and Ketu are also exalted. As such there is no > affliction to the 7th house then why the divorce?> > > > D D Trivedi> > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.> >> > > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online.> > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Dear Group, I wrote this mail on another list. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Ash Friday December 21, 2007 3:51 PM RE: Re:Reason for Divorce Dear DD Trivedi, This chart proves that the traditional thinking must be understood in completeness. Jupiter is a natural benefic and that is correct, as 6th lord it’s the worst malefic and if with more bindus then its sight is even worst. You cannot just look at 1 side of an equation for this. What about the 2nd side of the equation. Ju is a benefic so it is ‘Generally’ good for the house it is situated in because it has a whooping 56 bindus in SAV so mostly it has more than 4 bindus so it is good for the house it is placed in so that is 1 side of the equation and that everyone takes, but what about its sight?, if Ju has more power in 1 house then it will spoil 3 other house. Just look at Lord Rams’ chart Ju in lagna as 6th lord and with Moon, made him a Mahapurush, till today people are taking Lord Ram’s name so that is 1 side of equation. Ju in unccha sthan and that too with more bindus and as 6th lord. So 6th lord is in Karak sthan. Now, at what cost -> that is the other side of the equation. So at the cost of loosing his father, Ju’s 5th sight on 9th house, at the cost of losing his wife Sita, Ju’s 7th aspect and at the cost of loosing his children, Ju’s 9th aspect on 5th house. So if u look at one side then that is correct and u can say that Ju is benefic for 1st house but it will destroy the house it aspects, it killed his father, separated from his wife and lastly his children. Very powerful unccha planets and with more than 4 bindus will spoil the status of the chart. One may get things, but those will be at a very high cost. Lord Ram got Rajya and became a Mahapurush, but everyone knows the very high price he had to pay. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of dushyant trivedi Friday December 21, 2007 11:35 AM RE: Re:Reason for Divorce Dear Learned Astrologers responding to Reason for Divorce, Fundamentally it is stated that Jupiter is Natural benefic planet and its aspect is considered. Secondly Saturn is a Yog Karaka planet for Libra Ascendant and finally Moon is exalted and it is many times stated that when Moon is strong then one may consider rashi chart for prediction where Taurus becomes lagna. In that case too Saturn becomes yoga karaka. Are these not enough to give stable marriage. Of course the results indicate otherwise. Now would it have been possible to advice before marriage as not to get married of avoid marriage now and wait for a later date. Will she in future if gets married likely to have a stable and happy mariage? D D Trivedi Ash <kas wrote: Dear Ramesh, I am sorry, I just sent my analysis on this chart as well and after that I read your mail. You have covered all points that I also tried to cover J Your mail and mine, both our analysis using KAS is same. This is not a small thing and it also highlights the power of using a concrete set of rules to base all the analysis on. That was also a part of discussion I was having with Jyothi, on testing the veracity of any ayanamsa, the pre-requisite should be a concrete rules, that work consistently on all charts or even a very large % of the charts like in excess of 80% to 90%. Thanks for analyzing this chart in detail. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of ramesh mishra Friday December 21, 2007 8:17 AM Re:Reason for Divorce Dear Jyothi and all, If you see this chart with the eyes of KAS, you may find the solution. 1. Ju is in libra with strong 6 bindus. Therefore Ju apects 7th house with malefic sight. 2. Ju is spoiled being in libra. 3. Ju is 6th lord.Marriage happened during MD/AD of Ju. 4. Ju is weak with 8 bindus in WS for 7th house matter.Marriage date could have been postponed till Ju AD was running. 5. Its lagna has 34 SAV points and 7th house has only 19 points. So difference of points are large. 6.The divorce took place in the AD of Saturn who has strong points for 2nd and 7th house. Sooner Sa AD started the marriage broke. 7. Lastly there are three zeros in SAV natal chart. Ma contributes one zero for 4th and Saturn contributes one zero each for 7th and 8th house. This chart indicates more delay and the marriage took place before the ripe period. Actually marriage could have taken place after 24 May 2007. So this marriage broke due to involvement of Ju being in libra and in lagna and also as 6th lord AND not as you are saying Ma as 7th lord in 12th and combines with Sa. Actually the placement of Ma and Sa in 12th for 7th house matter is good. This is the difference between VA and KAS. You may analyse more and more chart in which 7th lord in 12th but according to the peinciples based on KAS. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Sir, For Libra Asc Guru is a malefic. That too 6th lord(12th of 7th). So Guru's aspect should not be considered as favourable for married life. Guru's aspect being 6th lord aspecting 7th will create hostility with partner. The reason for divorce is obvious. 7th lord Mars in 12th, that too in its enemey sign is one of the main reason for divorce. I have obsereved this in many divorce charts and had mentioned in one of my previous posts. Regards, Jyothi , dushyant trivedi <trivedi20 wrote: > > Dear Learned Astrologers, > > I have come across a horoscope of a educated girl intelligent and well employed in Multination who got divorced almost immediately after marriage with aparent difficult to understand astrologolically. The birth details are as under > > DOB 8th Jan 1982 > TOB 01.32 am > POB Vadodara, Gujarat formally known as Baroda > > The above details are correct. > > Married in the month of may/june 2006. The Boy was working in London. She joined him after few months in London and almost within a week she was sent back to India by the Boy's family. Officially divoced tok place during Nov 2007. > > The girl has Libra ascendant with Guru in it and aspecting the 7th house. The marriage took place in Guru Mahadasha and also got divorced. Astrologically the aspect of Guru on the 7th house should give god and happy married life but the it is not so in this case. > > She has Mars and Saturn in the 17th house. The Saturn is in Parivartan yoga with Mercury in the 4th house. Exalted Moon in the 8th house and Rahu and Ketu are also exalted. As such there is no affliction to the 7th house then why the divorce? > > D D Trivedi > > > > Never miss a thing. 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Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Dear DD Trivedi, This chart proves that the traditional thinking must be understood in completeness. Jupiter is a natural benefic and that is correct, as 6th lord it’s the worst malefic and if with more bindus then its sight is even worst. You cannot just look at 1 side of an equation for this. What about the 2nd side of the equation. Ju is a benefic so it is ‘Generally’ good for the house it is situated in because it has a whooping 56 bindus in SAV so mostly it has more than 4 bindus so it is good for the house it is placed in so that is 1 side of the equation and that everyone takes, but what about its sight?, if Ju has more power in 1 house then it will spoil 3 other house. Just look at Lord Rams’ chart Ju in lagna as 6th lord and with Moon, made him a Mahapurush, till today people are taking Lord Ram’s name so that is 1 side of equation. Ju in unccha sthan and that too with more bindus and as 6th lord. So 6th lord is in Karak sthan. Now, at what cost -> that is the other side of the equation. So at the cost of loosing his father, Ju’s 5th sight on 9th house, at the cost of losing his wife Sita, Ju’s 7th aspect and at the cost of loosing his children, Ju’s 9th aspect on 5th house. So if u look at one side then that is correct and u can say that Ju is benefic for 1st house but it will destroy the house it aspects, it killed his father, separated from his wife and lastly his children. Very powerful unccha planets and with more than 4 bindus will spoil the status of the chart. One may get things, but those will be at a very high cost. Lord Ram got Rajya and became a Mahapurush, but everyone knows the very high price he had to pay. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of dushyant trivedi Friday December 21, 2007 11:35 AM RE: Re:Reason for Divorce Dear Learned Astrologers responding to Reason for Divorce, Fundamentally it is stated that Jupiter is Natural benefic planet and its aspect is considered. Secondly Saturn is a Yog Karaka planet for Libra Ascendant and finally Moon is exalted and it is many times stated that when Moon is strong then one may consider rashi chart for prediction where Taurus becomes lagna. In that case too Saturn becomes yoga karaka. Are these not enough to give stable marriage. Of course the results indicate otherwise. Now would it have been possible to advice before marriage as not to get married of avoid marriage now and wait for a later date. Will she in future if gets married likely to have a stable and happy mariage? D D Trivedi Ash <kas wrote: Dear Ramesh, I am sorry, I just sent my analysis on this chart as well and after that I read your mail. You have covered all points that I also tried to cover J Your mail and mine, both our analysis using KAS is same. This is not a small thing and it also highlights the power of using a concrete set of rules to base all the analysis on. That was also a part of discussion I was having with Jyothi, on testing the veracity of any ayanamsa, the pre-requisite should be a concrete rules, that work consistently on all charts or even a very large % of the charts like in excess of 80% to 90%. Thanks for analyzing this chart in detail. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of ramesh mishra Friday December 21, 2007 8:17 AM Re:Reason for Divorce Dear Jyothi and all, If you see this chart with the eyes of KAS, you may find the solution. 1. Ju is in libra with strong 6 bindus. Therefore Ju apects 7th house with malefic sight. 2. Ju is spoiled being in libra. 3. Ju is 6th lord.Marriage happened during MD/AD of Ju. 4. Ju is weak with 8 bindus in WS for 7th house matter.Marriage date could have been postponed till Ju AD was running. 5. Its lagna has 34 SAV points and 7th house has only 19 points. So difference of points are large. 6.The divorce took place in the AD of Saturn who has strong points for 2nd and 7th house. Sooner Sa AD started the marriage broke. 7. Lastly there are three zeros in SAV natal chart. Ma contributes one zero for 4th and Saturn contributes one zero each for 7th and 8th house. This chart indicates more delay and the marriage took place before the ripe period. Actually marriage could have taken place after 24 May 2007. So this marriage broke due to involvement of Ju being in libra and in lagna and also as 6th lord AND not as you are saying Ma as 7th lord in 12th and combines with Sa. Actually the placement of Ma and Sa in 12th for 7th house matter is good. This is the difference between VA and KAS. You may analyse more and more chart in which 7th lord in 12th but according to the peinciples based on KAS. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Sir, For Libra Asc Guru is a malefic. That too 6th lord(12th of 7th). So Guru's aspect should not be considered as favourable for married life. Guru's aspect being 6th lord aspecting 7th will create hostility with partner. The reason for divorce is obvious. 7th lord Mars in 12th, that too in its enemey sign is one of the main reason for divorce. I have obsereved this in many divorce charts and had mentioned in one of my previous posts. Regards, Jyothi , dushyant trivedi <trivedi20 wrote: > > Dear Learned Astrologers, > > I have come across a horoscope of a educated girl intelligent and well employed in Multination who got divorced almost immediately after marriage with aparent difficult to understand astrologolically. The birth details are as under > > DOB 8th Jan 1982 > TOB 01.32 am > POB Vadodara, Gujarat formally known as Baroda > > The above details are correct. > > Married in the month of may/june 2006. The Boy was working in London. She joined him after few months in London and almost within a week she was sent back to India by the Boy's family. Officially divoced tok place during Nov 2007. > > The girl has Libra ascendant with Guru in it and aspecting the 7th house. The marriage took place in Guru Mahadasha and also got divorced. Astrologically the aspect of Guru on the 7th house should give god and happy married life but the it is not so in this case. > > She has Mars and Saturn in the 17th house. The Saturn is in Parivartan yoga with Mercury in the 4th house. Exalted Moon in the 8th house and Rahu and Ketu are also exalted. As such there is no affliction to the 7th house then why the divorce? > > D D Trivedi > > > > Never miss a thing. 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Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Dear Trivedi Saab, Yes, agreed that Jupiter is the natural benefic, but also malefic for the Lagna in subject, hence, do not expect the planet to "prove" its beneficence in the area you want i.e. When Mother & Daughter-in-Law fight, then which side you expect the son to take ?? The wise thing is to stay calm and neutral !! Similarly Yogakaraka Saturn would do his work, but what activities i.e. 4HL & 5HL. It lost its part capacity to delivery by virtue of its placement and conjunction.....Think about your working on your computer {using keyboard}, while your young son or grandson, keeps middling you attention by your side..... !!...where is your attention then ?? I am reminded of a old parable - A religious & sincere person doing his daily normal duties, including his daily prayers, is caught in a raising flood waters !! He was sure that God would save him for having prayed him day & night {i.e. 5 x 7 x 365 max limits}....in between the district people gave alarm declared calamity & flood relief operations were started by the govt. They sent in the helicopter....to save this man, but he refused that his god would rescue him.....with each feet of water raise,....the chopper came back ....he kept on refusing till he was swept away the flood water to his death.....later landed in Heaven....where he questioned God for NOT doing enough to save his life !! to which the God replied, why do you insist that only I in my "original form" should come and save you....it was me, in the form of Pilot came to you few times offering help ......!!! The key point you have missed, which I also overlooked to mention in the original analysis is that Saturn the yoga karaka is in the Nakshatra of Mars !! repeat Mars......Mahadasha Lord is in the nakshatra of Rahu.....the originator of "arsenic" !! moreover, it is 3HL & 6HL....malefic to the Libra Lagna.... For prediction purposes.....see the condition of the Mahadasha Lord through its stellar position, in terms of its basic mind, see the placement & amsa position for its strength to deliver results, See the dispositors of sign & amsa for actual results i.e. outcome...... With regards, sreeram_srinivas , dushyant trivedi <trivedi20 wrote: Dear Learned Astrologers responding to Reason for Divorce, Fundamentally it is stated that Jupiter is Natural benefic planet and its aspect is considered. Secondly Saturn is a Yog Karaka planet for Libra Ascendant and finally Moon is exalted and it is many times stated that when Moon is strong then one may consider rashi chart for prediction where Taurus becomes lagna. In that case too Saturn becomes yoga karaka. Are these not enough to give stable marriage. Of course the results indicate otherwise. Now would it have been possible to advice before marriage as not to get married of avoid marriage now and wait for a later date. Will she in future if gets married likely to have a stable and happy mariage? D D Trivedi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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