Reason for Divorce

[Guest guest]

Dear Trivediji,

The information in the given circumstances is NOT enough the marriage muhurat time is of vital importance than the native's hororscopes......should you happen to have that information, kindly share it, else this exercise would be incomplete.....

with regards,

sreeram_srinivas

, dushyant trivedi <trivedi20 wrote:

Dear Learned Astrologers, I have come across a horoscope of a educated girl intelligent and well employed in Multination who got divorced almost immediately after marriage with aparent difficult to understand astrologolically. The birth details are as under DOB 8th Jan 1982 TOB 01.32 am POB Vadodara, Gujarat formally known as Baroda The above details are correct. Married in the month of may/june 2006. The Boy was working in London. She joined him after few months in London and almost within a week she was sent back to India by the Boy's family. Officially divoced tok place during Nov 2007. The girl has Libra ascendant with Guru in it and aspecting the 7th house. The marriage took place in Guru Mahadasha and also got divorced. Astrologically the aspect of Guru on the 7th house should give god and happy married life but the it is not so in this case. She has Mars and Saturn in the 17th house. The Saturn is in Parivartan yoga with Mercury in the 4th house. Exalted Moon in the 8th house and Rahu and Ketu are also exalted. As such there is no affliction to the 7th house then why the divorce? D D Trivedi

[Guest guest]

Dear Sir,

 

For Libra Asc Guru is a malefic. That too 6th lord(12th of 7th). So

Guru's aspect should not be considered as favourable for married

life. Guru's aspect being 6th lord aspecting 7th will create

hostility with partner. The reason for divorce is obvious. 7th lord

Mars in 12th, that too in its enemey sign is one of the main reason

for divorce. I have obsereved this in many divorce charts and had

mentioned in one of my previous posts.

 

Regards,

Jyothi

 

 

, dushyant trivedi

<trivedi20 wrote:

>

> Dear Learned Astrologers,

>

> I have come across a horoscope of a educated girl intelligent and

well employed in Multination who got divorced almost immediately

after marriage with aparent difficult to understand astrologolically.

The birth details are as under

>

> DOB 8th Jan 1982

> TOB 01.32 am

> POB Vadodara, Gujarat formally known as Baroda

>

> The above details are correct.

 

>

> Married in the month of may/june 2006. The Boy was working in

London. She joined him after few months in London and almost within a

week she was sent back to India by the Boy's family. Officially

divoced tok place during Nov 2007.

>

> The girl has Libra ascendant with Guru in it and aspecting the

7th house. The marriage took place in Guru Mahadasha and also got

divorced. Astrologically the aspect of Guru on the 7th house should

give god and happy married life but the it is not so in this case.

>

> She has Mars and Saturn in the 17th house. The Saturn is in

Parivartan yoga with Mercury in the 4th house. Exalted Moon in the

8th house and Rahu and Ketu are also exalted. As such there is no

affliction to the 7th house then why the divorce?

>

> D D Trivedi

>

>

>

> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Trivedi saab,

 

Some point you have already mentioned, yet for the same of logical

analysis, will repeat them again for the clarity.....we have just

discussed few combination in the list and hence, the effect of 7HL

going to 12H was discussed in brief yet conclusive posts....

 

The reasons of the immediate divorce:

 

1) 7HL Mars in 12H

2) 7HL Mars in inimical sign

3) 7HL Mars in conjunction with enemy Saturn

4) 12H connection is a separating effect

5) 7HL Mars in the navamsa of Venus

6) 7HL Mars sharing amsa sambanda with Venus

7) Exchange between 12HL Mercury & 4HL+5HL Saturn

8) Direction connection of 12HLMercury & 8HL Venus in 4H

8) Dasha of 6HL & 3HL Jupiterat the time of marriage

9) Dasha of Jup-Jup-Mercury at the time of marriage

10) Jupiter is the malefic for this Lagna

11) Jupiter is retrograde at the time of marriage

12) The degrees of Mars-16, Jupiter-13 & Venus®-14 are very close

13) A research point of Late Sri C.S. Patel, SAV Points in 4H are 24. {

few other transit combinations are also evident in this conclusion}

14) Event happened around the age of 24yrs of the native.

 

 

The above 14 negatives, clearly mention the divorce was very

evident......plus the timing of the marriage muhurta was totally wrong

in this case, though I do not have the correct marriage time, but the

fact it happened in May/June 2006 was sufficient.

 

with regards,

 

sreeram_srinivas

 

 

 

 

 

, dushyant trivedi

<trivedi20 wrote:

 

Dear Learned Astrologers,

 

I have come across a horoscope of a educated girl intelligent and well

employed in Multination who got divorced almost immediately after

marriage with aparent difficult to understand astrologolically. The

birth details are as under

 

DOB 8th Jan 1982

TOB 01.32 am

POB Vadodara, Gujarat formally known as Baroda

 

The above details are correct.

 

Married in the month of may/june 2006. The Boy was working in London.

She joined him after few months in London and almost within a week she

was sent back to India by the Boy's family. Officially divoced tok place

during Nov 2007.

 

The girl has Libra ascendant with Guru in it and aspecting the 7th

house. The marriage took place in Guru Mahadasha and also got divorced.

Astrologically the aspect of Guru on the 7th house should give god and

happy married life but the it is not so in this case.

 

She has Mars and Saturn in the 17th house. The Saturn is in Parivartan

yoga with Mercury in the 4th house. Exalted Moon in the 8th house and

Rahu and Ketu are also exalted. As such there is no affliction to the

7th house then why the divorce?

 

D D Trivedi

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

 

Even I come across similar horoscope and the person has saturn and mars in her 7th house(Leo)....Aspected my moon being in first.

 

And other planets

Venus is in 6th house...

Rahu and ketu in 2nd and 8th resp

Jup, Mer and sun are in 5th house

 

Is the combination of mars and saturn bad for marriage?

Regards

SG

 

On Dec 21, 2007 6:11 PM, sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Trivedi saab,Some point you have already mentioned, yet for the same of logicalanalysis, will repeat them again for the clarity.....we have justdiscussed few combination in the list and hence, the effect of 7HL

going to 12H was discussed in brief yet conclusive posts....The reasons of the immediate divorce:1) 7HL Mars in 12H2) 7HL Mars in inimical sign3) 7HL Mars in conjunction with enemy Saturn4) 12H connection is a separating effect

5) 7HL Mars in the navamsa of Venus6) 7HL Mars sharing amsa sambanda with Venus7) Exchange between 12HL Mercury & 4HL+5HL Saturn8) Direction connection of 12HLMercury & 8HL Venus in 4H8) Dasha of 6HL & 3HL Jupiterat the time of marriage

9) Dasha of Jup-Jup-Mercury at the time of marriage10) Jupiter is the malefic for this Lagna11) Jupiter is retrograde at the time of marriage12) The degrees of Mars-16, Jupiter-13 & Venus®-14 are very close

13) A research point of Late Sri C.S. Patel, SAV Points in 4H are 24. {few other transit combinations are also evident in this conclusion}14) Event happened around the age of 24yrs of the native.The above 14 negatives, clearly mention the divorce was very

evident......plus the timing of the marriage muhurta was totally wrongin this case, though I do not have the correct marriage time, but thefact it happened in May/June 2006 was sufficient.with regards,

sreeram_srinivas , dushyant trivedi<trivedi20 wrote:

Dear Learned Astrologers,I have come across a horoscope of a educated girl intelligent and wellemployed in Multination who got divorced almost immediately aftermarriage with aparent difficult to understand astrologolically. The

birth details are as underDOB 8th Jan 1982TOB 01.32 amPOB Vadodara, Gujarat formally known as BarodaThe above details are correct.Married in the month of may/june 2006. The Boy was working in London.

She joined him after few months in London and almost within a week shewas sent back to India by the Boy's family. Officially divoced tok placeduring Nov 2007.The girl has Libra ascendant with Guru in it and aspecting the 7th

house. The marriage took place in Guru Mahadasha and also got divorced.Astrologically the aspect of Guru on the 7th house should give god andhappy married life but the it is not so in this case.She has Mars and Saturn in the 17th house. The Saturn is in Parivartan

yoga with Mercury in the 4th house. Exalted Moon in the 8th house andRahu and Ketu are also exalted. As such there is no affliction to the7th house then why the divorce?D D Trivedi

[Guest guest]

Dear Jyothi,

 

Here 2 laws of KAS are matching.

 

1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt.

2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna

with 6 bindus and aspecting 7th house in Rasi and 2nd

lord Mars in navamsa.

3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord

Jupiter with 8 points, and such marriages will break in highest power planet so

dasha of Saturn when it came it will break the marriage.

4. This is a very special chart, and it

has 3 zeroes in SAV. Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th

and 8th house.

 

5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more

stubborn, will stick to her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so

difference is much more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons,

ego are very fragile.

 

Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in

antra of Ju and breaks in Ju. As per Krushna’s ayanamsa it matches the

Laws of KAS i.e. Marriage in lowest power planet will break in Highest

power planet of 6th or 10th lord from 7th so

in this case, Saturn is very powerful, being 4th lord in 12th

house i.e. LoD in House E along with Karak i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of

the chart.

 

Marriage in 6th lord’s

antra which is only 8 points in 7th house and breaks in Saturn antra

who has 24 points for 7th house and very powerful for all 12

houses. Note Sa is in 10th house from Sun. Sa is with 3

bindus and Sun is with 6.

 

Calculation of Delay of Marriage.

 

Saturn is aspecting 2nd house,

and is with Mars who is lord of 7th house and its in 10th

from Sun and controlling Sun, so full delay due to Saturn. Full delay of

Saturn will be 7.5 years but here Saturn has already traversed to 29deg04 in

Virgo at time of birth so delay is reduced by 2.5 year (approx) so delay of

about 5.5 years from the normal marriage age as per the community. So

delay might be about 23.5 years. 18 year (legal marriage age as per India) + 5.5

years so 23.5 years. Ju is also causing delay. After delay of

Saturn is over, we add the delay of Jupiter as well, so Ju will be in 1st

house aspecting 7th house so about 24 years the delay is over.

There are 3 zeros as well, which in extreme cases would show very unhappy

marriage or even denial of marriage, here there is blessing from Moon i.e. Moon

and 9th lords are in 5:9 i.e. Venus and Saturn so due to that maybe

marriage has taken place and also 2nd and 7th lords are

in 12th house and enhanced, so adding good status and that is why

Marriage has taken place, but it cannot last.

 

This lady is intelligent; she has 2

sectors falling in Shani, in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa. She also is

a quite smart as she has 2 sectors falling in Mercury in navamsa dreshkon and

trishansa. She must have quite s sharp tounge, her words can hurt others,

she might be living near water body or hills.

 

Jyothi, here this chart has all our discussions

a good nimita J

 

My point of doing all this analysis is to

highlight all our discussions which being.

 

1. SAV points in 1st and 7th

– recent discussion. 34 points in lagna with Ju showing more egoistic

and adamant person and not having compromising nature. Moon is in fixed

sign as well and Sun is in sco in navamsa.

2. 2nd and 7th lord

in upachaya sthan, i.e .7th lord in 12th and 2nd

lord in 12th. Marriage has taken place (timing of event)

3. Laws for divorce i.e. Ju in libra, 6th

lord in lagna with more bindus particularly Ju for libra lagna as its 7th

lord and it aspects 7th house and 2nd lord with malefic

dristi.

4. Dasha of planet – i..e Marriage

taking place in lowest points as per KAS program i.e in this case its 8 points

and the break of marriage in highest power planet i.e. Saturn with 24 points in

7th house and its 4th or 12th lord. In

this case its 4th lord and in 12th house.

5. Ma and Sa in 12th house so

results of 4th, 5th, 2nd and 7th house

are enhanced.

6. Effect of 0’s in SAV (this is a

special chart and quite rare to have 3 zeroes in SAV)

7. This also covers the “enjoyment

of cars and assets” logic if 12th lord is in 4th house

and in this case Mars has 0 points in SAV in 4th house. So she

might have problems in owning property of vehicles but will get to enjoy them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Antardasha

 

 

Start

 

 

To

 

 

 

 

Jupiter

 

 

2005-Apr-05

 

 

2007-May-24

 

 

 

 

Saturn

 

 

2007-May-24

 

 

2009-Dec-05

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hse

 

 

SAV

 

 

Su

 

 

Mo

 

 

Ma

 

 

Me

 

 

Ju

 

 

Ve

 

 

Sa

 

 

 

 

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Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of jyothi_b_lakshmi

Friday December 21, 2007

5:37 AM

 

Subject:

Re: Reason for Divorce

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sir,

 

For Libra Asc Guru is a malefic. That too 6th lord(12th of 7th). So

Guru's aspect should not be considered as favourable for married

life. Guru's aspect being 6th lord aspecting 7th will create

hostility with partner. The reason for divorce is obvious. 7th lord

Mars in 12th, that too in its enemey sign is one of the main reason

for divorce. I have obsereved this in many divorce charts and had

mentioned in one of my previous posts.

 

Regards,

Jyothi

 

,

dushyant trivedi

<trivedi20 wrote:

>

> Dear Learned Astrologers,

>

> I have come across a horoscope of a educated girl intelligent and

well employed in Multination who got divorced almost immediately

after marriage with aparent difficult to understand astrologolically.

The birth details are as under

>

> DOB 8th Jan 1982

> TOB 01.32 am

> POB Vadodara, Gujarat formally known as Baroda

>

> The above details are correct.

 

>

> Married in the month of may/june 2006. The Boy was working in

London. She

joined him after few months in London and almost

within a

week she was sent back to India

by the Boy's family. Officially

divoced tok place during Nov 2007.

>

> The girl has Libra ascendant with Guru in it and aspecting the

7th house. The marriage took place in Guru Mahadasha and also got

divorced. Astrologically the aspect of Guru on the 7th house should

give god and happy married life but the it is not so in this case.

>

> She has Mars and Saturn in the 17th house. The Saturn is in

Parivartan yoga with Mercury in the 4th house. Exalted Moon in the

8th house and Rahu and Ketu are also exalted. As such there is no

affliction to the 7th house then why the divorce?

>

> D D Trivedi

>

>

>

> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Jyothi,

 

Here 2 laws of KAS are matching.

 

1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt.

2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna

with 6 bindus and aspecting 7th house in Rasi and 2nd

lord Mars in navamsa.

3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord

Jupiter with 8 points, and such marriages will break in highest power planet so

dasha of Saturn when it came it will break the marriage.

4. This is a very special chart, and it

has 3 zeroes in SAV. Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th

and 8th house.

 

5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more

stubborn, will stick to her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so

difference is much more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons,

ego are very fragile.

 

Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in

antra of Ju and breaks in Ju. As per Krushna’s ayanamsa it matches the

Laws of KAS i.e. Marriage in lowest power planet will break in Highest

power planet of 6th or 10th lord from 7th so

in this case, Saturn is very powerful, being 4th lord in 12th

house i.e. LoD in House E along with Karak i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of

the chart.

 

Marriage in 6th lord’s

antra which is only 8 points in 7th house and breaks in Saturn antra

who has 24 points for 7th house and very powerful for all 12

houses. Note Sa is in 10th house from Sun. Sa is with 3

bindus and Sun is with 6.

 

Calculation of Delay of Marriage.

 

Saturn is aspecting 2nd house,

and is with Mars who is lord of 7th house and its in 10th

from Sun and controlling Sun, so full delay due to Saturn. Full delay of

Saturn will be 7.5 years but here Saturn has already traversed to 29deg04 in

Virgo at time of birth so delay is reduced by 2.5 year (approx) so delay of

about 5.5 years from the normal marriage age as per the community. So

delay might be about 23.5 years. 18 year (legal marriage age as per India) + 5.5

years so 23.5 years. Ju is also causing delay. After delay of

Saturn is over, we add the delay of Jupiter as well, so Ju will be in 1st

house aspecting 7th house so about 24 years the delay is over.

There are 3 zeros as well, which in extreme cases would show very unhappy

marriage or even denial of marriage, here there is blessing from Moon i.e. Moon

and 9th lords are in 5:9 i.e. Venus and Saturn so due to that maybe

marriage has taken place and also 2nd and 7th lords are

in 12th house and enhanced, so adding good status and that is why

Marriage has taken place, but it cannot last.

 

This lady is intelligent; she has 2

sectors falling in Shani, in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa. She also is

a quite smart as she has 2 sectors falling in Mercury in navamsa dreshkon and

trishansa. She must have quite s sharp tounge, her words can hurt others,

she might be living near water body or hills.

 

Jyothi, here this chart has all our discussions

a good nimita J

 

My point of doing all this analysis is to

highlight all our discussions which being.

 

1. SAV points in 1st and 7th

– recent discussion. 34 points in lagna with Ju showing more egoistic

and adamant person and not having compromising nature. Moon is in fixed

sign as well and Sun is in sco in navamsa.

2. 2nd and 7th lord

in upachaya sthan, i.e .7th lord in 12th and 2nd

lord in 12th. Marriage has taken place (timing of event)

3. Laws for divorce i.e. Ju in libra, 6th

lord in lagna with more bindus particularly Ju for libra lagna as its 7th

lord and it aspects 7th house and 2nd lord with malefic

dristi.

4. Dasha of planet – i..e Marriage

taking place in lowest points as per KAS program i.e in this case its 8 points

and the break of marriage in highest power planet i.e. Saturn with 24 points in

7th house and its 4th or 12th lord. In

this case its 4th lord and in 12th house.

5. Ma and Sa in 12th house so

results of 4th, 5th, 2nd and 7th house

are enhanced.

6. Effect of 0’s in SAV (this is a

special chart and quite rare to have 3 zeroes in SAV)

7. This also covers the “enjoyment

of cars and assets” logic if 12th lord is in 4th house

and in this case Mars has 0 points in SAV in 4th house. So she

might have problems in owning property of vehicles but will get to enjoy them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Antardasha

 

 

Start

 

 

To

 

 

 

 

Jupiter

 

 

2005-Apr-05

 

 

2007-May-24

 

 

 

 

Saturn

 

 

2007-May-24

 

 

2009-Dec-05

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hse

 

 

SAV

 

 

Su

 

 

Mo

 

 

Ma

 

 

Me

 

 

Ju

 

 

Ve

 

 

Sa

 

 

 

 

1

 

 

34

 

 

10

 

 

21

 

 

8

 

 

15

 

 

19

 

 

14

 

 

17

 

 

 

 

2

 

 

28

 

 

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Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of jyothi_b_lakshmi

Friday December 21, 2007

5:37 AM

 

Subject:

Re: Reason for Divorce

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sir,

 

For Libra Asc Guru is a malefic. That too 6th lord(12th of 7th). So

Guru's aspect should not be considered as favourable for married

life. Guru's aspect being 6th lord aspecting 7th will create

hostility with partner. The reason for divorce is obvious. 7th lord

Mars in 12th, that too in its enemey sign is one of the main reason

for divorce. I have obsereved this in many divorce charts and had

mentioned in one of my previous posts.

 

Regards,

Jyothi

 

,

dushyant trivedi

<trivedi20 wrote:

>

> Dear Learned Astrologers,

>

> I have come across a horoscope of a educated girl intelligent and

well employed in Multination who got divorced almost immediately

after marriage with aparent difficult to understand astrologolically.

The birth details are as under

>

> DOB 8th Jan 1982

> TOB 01.32 am

> POB Vadodara, Gujarat formally known as Baroda

>

> The above details are correct.

 

>

> Married in the month of may/june 2006. The Boy was working in

London. She

joined him after few months in London and almost

within a

week she was sent back to India

by the Boy's family. Officially

divoced tok place during Nov 2007.

>

> The girl has Libra ascendant with Guru in it and aspecting the

7th house. The marriage took place in Guru Mahadasha and also got

divorced. Astrologically the aspect of Guru on the 7th house should

give god and happy married life but the it is not so in this case.

>

> She has Mars and Saturn in the 17th house. The Saturn is in

Parivartan yoga with Mercury in the 4th house. Exalted Moon in the

8th house and Rahu and Ketu are also exalted. As such there is no

affliction to the 7th house then why the divorce?

>

> D D Trivedi

>

>

>

> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

>

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Dear Ashji,

you said

" She also is a quite smart as she has 2 sectors falling in Mercury in

navamsa dreshkon and trishansa. She must have quite s sharp tounge,

her words can hurt others, she might be living near water body or hills. "

a)is it because of sectors in mercury that she has sharp tounge ?

b)can you also throw some light how you found out she is living near

water body or hills ?

 

thanks/regards

harjeet

 

 

 

-- In , " Ash " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Jyothi,

>

>

>

> Here 2 laws of KAS are matching.

>

>

>

> 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt.

>

> 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and aspecting 7th house

in Rasi

> and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa.

>

> 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8 points, and such

marriages

> will break in highest power planet so dasha of Saturn when it came

it will

> break the marriage.

>

> 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3 zeroes in SAV. Mars

in 4th

> house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house.

>

>

>

> 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn, will stick to her

guns and

> 7th house has only 19 bindus so difference is much more.

Particularly Ju is

> in lagna. Such persons, ego are very fragile.

>

>

>

> Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of Ju and breaks in

Ju. As

> per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws of KAS i.e. Marriage in

lowest

> power planet will break in Highest power planet of 6th or 10th lord

from 7th

> so in this case, Saturn is very powerful, being 4th lord in 12th

house i.e.

> LoD in House E along with Karak i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the chart.

>

>

>

> Marriage in 6th lord's antra which is only 8 points in 7th house and

breaks

> in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th house and very powerful

for all 12

> houses. Note Sa is in 10th house from Sun. Sa is with 3 bindus and

Sun is

> with 6.

>

>

>

> Calculation of Delay of Marriage.

>

>

>

> Saturn is aspecting 2nd house, and is with Mars who is lord of 7th

house and

> its in 10th from Sun and controlling Sun, so full delay due to

Saturn. Full

> delay of Saturn will be 7.5 years but here Saturn has already

traversed to

> 29deg04 in Virgo at time of birth so delay is reduced by 2.5 year

(approx)

> so delay of about 5.5 years from the normal marriage age as per the

> community. So delay might be about 23.5 years. 18 year (legal

marriage age

> as per India) + 5.5 years so 23.5 years. Ju is also causing delay.

After

> delay of Saturn is over, we add the delay of Jupiter as well, so Ju

will be

> in 1st house aspecting 7th house so about 24 years the delay is

over. There

> are 3 zeros as well, which in extreme cases would show very unhappy

marriage

> or even denial of marriage, here there is blessing from Moon i.e.

Moon and

> 9th lords are in 5:9 i.e. Venus and Saturn so due to that maybe

marriage has

> taken place and also 2nd and 7th lords are in 12th house and

enhanced, so

> adding good status and that is why Marriage has taken place, but it

cannot

> last.

>

>

>

> This lady is intelligent; she has 2 sectors falling in Shani, in

navamsa,

> dreshkon and trishansa. She also is a quite smart as she has 2 sectors

> falling in Mercury in navamsa dreshkon and trishansa. She must have

quite s

> sharp tounge, her words can hurt others, she might be living near

water body

> or hills.

>

>

>

> Jyothi, here this chart has all our discussions a good nimita :-)

>

>

>

> My point of doing all this analysis is to highlight all our discussions

> which being.

>

>

>

> 1. SAV points in 1st and 7th - recent discussion. 34 points in

lagna with

> Ju showing more egoistic and adamant person and not having compromising

> nature. Moon is in fixed sign as well and Sun is in sco in navamsa.

>

> 2. 2nd and 7th lord in upachaya sthan, i.e .7th lord in 12th and 2nd

lord in

> 12th. Marriage has taken place (timing of event)

>

> 3. Laws for divorce i.e. Ju in libra, 6th lord in lagna with more bindus

> particularly Ju for libra lagna as its 7th lord and it aspects 7th

house and

> 2nd lord with malefic dristi.

>

> 4. Dasha of planet - i..e Marriage taking place in lowest points as

per KAS

> program i.e in this case its 8 points and the break of marriage in

highest

> power planet i.e. Saturn with 24 points in 7th house and its 4th or 12th

> lord. In this case its 4th lord and in 12th house.

>

> 5. Ma and Sa in 12th house so results of 4th, 5th, 2nd and 7th house are

> enhanced.

>

> 6. Effect of 0's in SAV (this is a special chart and quite rare to

have 3

> zeroes in SAV)

>

> 7. This also covers the " enjoyment of cars and assets " logic if 12th

lord is

> in 4th house and in this case Mars has 0 points in SAV in 4th house.

So she

> might have problems in owning property of vehicles but will get to enjoy

> them.

>

>

>

>

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Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> _____

>

>

> On Behalf Of

> jyothi_b_lakshmi

> Friday December 21, 2007 5:37 AM

>

> Re: Reason for Divorce

>

>

>

> Dear Sir,

>

> For Libra Asc Guru is a malefic. That too 6th lord(12th of 7th). So

> Guru's aspect should not be considered as favourable for married

> life. Guru's aspect being 6th lord aspecting 7th will create

> hostility with partner. The reason for divorce is obvious. 7th lord

> Mars in 12th, that too in its enemey sign is one of the main reason

> for divorce. I have obsereved this in many divorce charts and had

> mentioned in one of my previous posts.

>

> Regards,

> Jyothi

>

> ancient_indian_

<%40>

> astrology , dushyant trivedi

> <trivedi20@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Learned Astrologers,

> >

> > I have come across a horoscope of a educated girl intelligent and

> well employed in Multination who got divorced almost immediately

> after marriage with aparent difficult to understand astrologolically.

> The birth details are as under

> >

> > DOB 8th Jan 1982

> > TOB 01.32 am

> > POB Vadodara, Gujarat formally known as Baroda

> >

> > The above details are correct.

>

> >

> > Married in the month of may/june 2006. The Boy was working in

> London. She joined him after few months in London and almost within a

> week she was sent back to India by the Boy's family. Officially

> divoced tok place during Nov 2007.

> >

> > The girl has Libra ascendant with Guru in it and aspecting the

> 7th house. The marriage took place in Guru Mahadasha and also got

> divorced. Astrologically the aspect of Guru on the 7th house should

> give god and happy married life but the it is not so in this case.

> >

> > She has Mars and Saturn in the 17th house. The Saturn is in

> Parivartan yoga with Mercury in the 4th house. Exalted Moon in the

> 8th house and Rahu and Ketu are also exalted. As such there is no

> affliction to the 7th house then why the divorce?

> >

> > D D Trivedi

> >

> >

> >

> > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

> >

>

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Dear Sreenivas and others, Many thanks for the insight as to the reason for divorce. Now only question is whether this girl can look forward for remarriage and have a stable married life? If so when she should get married and what precautions should be taken? Will wearing Coral help? For that matter any other Gem Stone. Is there any rites to be performed? Or just let things happen in its own way. D D Trivedisreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote: Dear Trivedi Saab, Yes, agreed that Jupiter is the natural benefic, but also malefic for the Lagna in subject, hence, do not expect the planet to "prove" its beneficence in the area you want i.e. When Mother & Daughter-in-Law fight, then which side you expect the son to take ?? The wise thing is to stay calm and neutral !! Similarly Yogakaraka Saturn would do his work, but what activities i.e. 4HL & 5HL. It lost its part capacity to delivery by virtue of its placement and conjunction.....Think about your working on your computer {using keyboard}, while your young son or grandson, keeps middling you attention by your side..... !!...where is your attention then ?? I am reminded of a old parable - A religious & sincere person doing his daily normal duties, including his daily prayers, is caught in a raising flood

waters !! He was sure that God would save him for having prayed him day & night {i.e. 5 x 7 x 365 max limits}....in between the district people gave alarm declared calamity & flood relief operations were started by the govt. They sent in the helicopter....to save this man, but he refused that his god would rescue him.....with each feet of water raise,....the chopper came back ....he kept on refusing till he was swept away the flood water to his death.....later landed in Heaven....where he questioned God for NOT doing enough to save his life !! to which the God replied, why do you insist that only I in my "original form" should come and save you....it was me, in the form of Pilot came to you few times offering help ......!!! The key point you have missed, which I also overlooked to mention in the original analysis is that Saturn the yoga karaka is in the Nakshatra of

Mars !! repeat Mars......Mahadasha Lord is in the nakshatra of Rahu.....the originator of "arsenic" !! moreover, it is 3HL & 6HL....malefic to the Libra Lagna.... For prediction purposes.....see the condition of the Mahadasha Lord through its stellar position, in terms of its basic mind, see the placement & amsa position for its strength to deliver results, See the dispositors of sign & amsa for actual results i.e. outcome...... With regards, sreeram_srinivas , dushyant trivedi <trivedi20 wrote: Dear Learned Astrologers responding to Reason for Divorce, Fundamentally it is stated that Jupiter is Natural benefic planet and its aspect is considered. Secondly Saturn is a Yog Karaka planet for Libra Ascendant and finally

Moon is exalted and it is many times stated that when Moon is strong then one may consider rashi chart for prediction where Taurus becomes lagna. In that case too Saturn becomes yoga karaka. Are these not enough to give stable marriage. Of course the results indicate otherwise. Now would it have been possible to advice before marriage as not to get married of avoid marriage now and wait for a later date. Will she in future if gets married likely to have a stable and happy mariage? D D Trivedi

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Dear Trivedi saab,

 

I would strongly advise the importance of muhurta in such marriage

occasions from a competent astro in your area....many afflictions in

individual hororscopes can be to an extent corrected through an

intelligent muhurat....I do know few people who do it professional with

very sound logics in New_Delhi, but they charge a fee of Rs.4,000-5,000.

Though I also know the techniques, but for want of time and other job

responsibilities .....

 

I personally against any costly remedies like wearing

gemstones...etc....other than use of prayer or mantras......

 

with regards,

 

sreeram_srinivas

 

 

, dushyant trivedi

<trivedi20 wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenivas and others,

>

> Many thanks for the insight as to the reason for divorce. Now only

question is whether this girl can look forward for remarriage and have a

stable married life? If so when she should get married and what

precautions should be taken?

>

> Will wearing Coral help? For that matter any other Gem Stone.

>

> Is there any rites to be performed? Or just let things happen in its

own way.

>

> D D Trivedi

>

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Dear Ash, Thanks for appreciation. It is because of your teaching KAS, I could analyse the reasons for divorce based on KAS. The method proves that how accurate is the result when one apply this system. Ramesh MishraAsh <kas wrote: Dear Ramesh, I am sorry, I just sent my analysis on this chart as well and after that I read your mail. You have covered all points that I also tried to cover J Your mail and mine, both our analysis using KAS is same. This is not a small thing and it also highlights the power of using a concrete

set of rules to base all the analysis on. That was also a part of discussion I was having with Jyothi, on testing the veracity of any ayanamsa, the pre-requisite should be a concrete rules, that work consistently on all charts or even a very large % of the charts like in excess of 80% to 90%. Thanks for analyzing this chart in detail. Cheers

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On Behalf Of ramesh mishraFriday December 21, 2007 8:17 AM Subject: Re:Reason for Divorce Dear Jyothi and all, If you see this chart with the eyes of KAS, you may find the solution. 1. Ju is in libra with strong 6 bindus. Therefore Ju apects 7th house with malefic sight. 2. Ju is spoiled being in libra. 3. Ju is 6th lord.Marriage happened during MD/AD of Ju. 4. Ju is weak with 8 bindus in WS for 7th house matter.Marriage date could have been postponed till Ju AD was running. 5. Its lagna has 34 SAV points and 7th house has only 19 points. So difference of points are large. 6.The divorce took place in the AD of Saturn who has strong points for 2nd and 7th house. Sooner Sa AD started the marriage broke. 7. Lastly there are three zeros in SAV natal chart. Ma contributes one zero for 4th and Saturn contributes one zero each for 7th and 8th house. This chart indicates more delay and the marriage took place before the ripe period. Actually marriage could have taken place after 24 May 2007. So this marriage broke due to involvement of Ju being in libra and in lagna and also as 6th lord AND not as you are saying Ma as 7th lord in 12th and combines with Sa. Actually the placement of Ma and Sa in 12th for 7th house matter is good. This is the difference between VA and KAS. You may analyse more and more chart in which 7th lord in 12th but according to the peinciples based on KAS. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishrajyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Sir,For Libra Asc Guru is a malefic. That too 6th lord(12th of 7th). So Guru's aspect should not be considered as favourable for married life. Guru's aspect being 6th lord aspecting 7th will

create hostility with partner. The reason for divorce is obvious. 7th lord Mars in 12th, that too in its enemey sign is one of the main reason for divorce. I have obsereved this in many divorce charts and had mentioned in one of my previous posts.Regards,Jyothi , dushyant trivedi <trivedi20 wrote:>> Dear Learned Astrologers,> > I have come across a horoscope of a educated girl intelligent and well employed in Multination who got divorced almost immediately after marriage with aparent difficult to understand astrologolically. The birth details are as under> > DOB 8th Jan 1982> TOB 01.32 am> POB Vadodara, Gujarat formally known as Baroda> > The above details are correct.> >

Married in the month of may/june 2006. The Boy was working in London. She joined him after few months in London and almost within a week she was sent back to India by the Boy's family. Officially divoced tok place during Nov 2007.> > The girl has Libra ascendant with Guru in it and aspecting the 7th house. The marriage took place in Guru Mahadasha and also got divorced. Astrologically the aspect of Guru on the 7th house should give god and happy married life but the it is not so in this case. > > She has Mars and Saturn in the 17th house. The Saturn is in Parivartan yoga with Mercury in the 4th house. Exalted Moon in the 8th house and Rahu and Ketu are also exalted. As such there is no affliction to the 7th house then why the divorce?> > D D Trivedi> > > > Never miss

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Dear Jyothi, Ash and all, I give you one chart of a male native who is closely related to me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and 2nd lord occupy 12th house. According to the verdict of Jyothi he should have divorced his spousebecause of 7th lord in 12th. In fact it is not so. They married 38 years before and still living together.No doubt there married life is hell but staying together. Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he was not divorced ? His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB 08:03:11 and POB 24 N 46, 84 E 23 INDIA. He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters. He served in defence forces in IAF and took volunteerly retirement after doing service in armed forces. Again after two years of retirement he got a job in central government. Between this period of two years, he was not jobless.He has been doing job in a

private co. If she can analyse it will be good learning for us. Thanks and regards. Ramesh MishraAsh <kas wrote: Dear Jyothi, Here 2 laws of KAS are matching. 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt. 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and aspecting 7th house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa. 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8 points, and such marriages will break in highest power planet so

dasha of Saturn when it came it will break the marriage. 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3 zeroes in SAV. Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house. 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn, will stick to her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so difference is much more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons, ego are very fragile. Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of Ju and breaks in Ju. As per Krushna’s ayanamsa it matches the Laws of KAS i.e. Marriage in lowest power planet will break in Highest power planet of 6th or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is very powerful, being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E along with Karak i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the chart. Marriage in 6th lord’s

antra which is only 8 points in 7th house and breaks in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th house and very powerful for all 12 houses. Note Sa is in 10th house from Sun. Sa is with 3 bindus and Sun is with 6. Calculation of Delay of Marriage. Saturn is aspecting 2nd house, and is with Mars who is lord of 7th house and

its in 10th from Sun and controlling Sun, so full delay due to Saturn. Full delay of Saturn will be 7.5 years but here Saturn has already traversed to 29deg04 in Virgo at time of birth so delay is reduced by 2.5 year (approx) so delay of about 5.5 years from the normal marriage age as per the community. So delay might be about 23.5 years. 18 year (legal marriage age as per India) + 5.5 years so 23.5 years. Ju is also causing delay. After delay of Saturn is over, we add the delay of Jupiter as well, so Ju will be in 1st house aspecting 7th house so about 24 years the delay is over. There are 3 zeros as well, which in extreme cases would show very unhappy marriage or even denial of marriage, here there is blessing from Moon i.e. Moon and 9th lords are in 5:9 i.e. Venus and Saturn so due to that maybe marriage has taken place and also 2nd and 7th lords

are in 12th house and enhanced, so adding good status and that is why Marriage has taken place, but it cannot last. This lady is intelligent; she has 2 sectors falling in Shani, in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa. She also is a quite smart as she has 2 sectors falling in Mercury in navamsa dreshkon and trishansa. She must have quite s sharp tounge, her words can hurt others, she might be living near water body or hills. Jyothi, here this chart has all our discussions a good nimita J My point of doing all this analysis is to highlight all our discussions which being. 1. SAV points in 1st and 7th – recent discussion. 34 points in lagna with Ju showing more egoistic and adamant person and not having compromising nature. Moon is in fixed sign as well and Sun is in sco in navamsa. 2. 2nd and 7th lord in upachaya sthan, i.e .7th lord in 12th and 2nd lord in 12th. Marriage has taken place (timing of event) 3. Laws for divorce i.e. Ju in libra, 6th lord in lagna with more bindus particularly Ju for libra lagna as its 7th lord and it aspects 7th house and 2nd lord with malefic

dristi. 4. Dasha of planet – i..e Marriage taking place in lowest points as per KAS program i.e in this case its 8 points and the break of marriage in highest power planet i.e. Saturn with 24 points in 7th house and its 4th or 12th lord. In this case its 4th lord and in 12th house. 5. Ma and Sa in 12th house so results of 4th, 5th, 2nd and 7th house are enhanced. 6. Effect of 0’s in SAV (this is a special chart and

quite rare to have 3 zeroes in SAV) 7. This also covers the “enjoyment of cars and assets” logic if 12th lord is in 4th house and in this case Mars has 0 points in SAV in 4th house. So she might have problems in owning property of vehicles but will get to enjoy them. Antardasha Start To Jupiter 2005-Apr-05 2007-May-24 Saturn 2007-May-24 2009-Dec-05 Hse SAV Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa 1 34 10 21 8 15 19 14 17 2 28 19 5 17 15 10 14 41 3 25 14 18 12 21 5 16 23 4 24 8 13 6 20 13 22 16 5 21 7 14 14 11 4 12 28 6 35 29 18 15 21 19 6 36 7 19 6 5 8 18 8 19 24 8 29 14 10 11 16 11 18 26 9 31 7 12 13 13 23 13 30 10 36 15 11 13 14 20 10 26 11 27 16 14 13 16 11 21 38 12 28 9 10 7 17 9 11 21 Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of jyothi_b_lakshmiFriday

December 21, 2007 5:37 AM Subject: Re: Reason for Divorce Dear Sir,For Libra Asc Guru is a malefic. That too 6th lord(12th of 7th). So Guru's aspect should not be considered as favourable for married life. Guru's aspect being 6th lord aspecting 7th will create hostility with partner. The reason for divorce is obvious. 7th lord Mars in 12th, that too in its enemey sign is one of the main reason for divorce. I have obsereved this in many divorce charts and had mentioned

in one of my previous posts.Regards,Jyothi , dushyant trivedi <trivedi20 wrote:>> Dear Learned Astrologers,> > I have come across a horoscope of a educated girl intelligent and well employed in Multination who got divorced almost immediately after marriage with aparent difficult to understand astrologolically. The birth details are as under> > DOB 8th Jan 1982> TOB 01.32 am> POB Vadodara, Gujarat formally known as Baroda> > The above details are correct.> > Married in the month of may/june 2006. The Boy was working in London. She joined him after few months in London and almost within a week she was sent back to India by the

Boy's family. Officially divoced tok place during Nov 2007.> > The girl has Libra ascendant with Guru in it and aspecting the 7th house. The marriage took place in Guru Mahadasha and also got divorced. Astrologically the aspect of Guru on the 7th house should give god and happy married life but the it is not so in this case. > > She has Mars and Saturn in the 17th house. The Saturn is in Parivartan yoga with Mercury in the 4th house. Exalted Moon in the 8th house and Rahu and Ketu are also exalted. As such there is no affliction to the 7th house then why the divorce?> > D D Trivedi> > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.>

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Dear Sreeram Sreenivas, I request you to suggest prayers and Mantras. Will it be OK if the Mantras are recited by the father? D D Trivedisreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote: Dear Trivedi saab,I would strongly advise the importance of muhurta in such marriageoccasions from a competent astro in your area....many afflictions inindividual hororscopes can be to an extent corrected through anintelligent muhurat....I do know few people who do it professional

withvery sound logics in New_Delhi, but they charge a fee of Rs.4,000-5,000.Though I also know the techniques, but for want of time and other jobresponsibilities .....I personally against any costly remedies like wearinggemstones...etc....other than use of prayer or mantras......with regards,sreeram_srinivas , dushyant trivedi<trivedi20 wrote:>> Dear Sreenivas and others,>> Many thanks for the insight as to the reason for divorce. Now onlyquestion is whether this girl can look forward for remarriage and have astable married life? If so when she should get married and whatprecautions should be taken?>> Will wearing Coral help? For that matter any other Gem Stone.>> Is there any rites to be performed? Or just

let things happen in itsown way.>> D D Trivedi>

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Dear Trivedi saab,

 

Prayers can be done by either parents {mother or father} of the

native.....

 

with regards,

 

sreeram_srinivas

 

 

, dushyant trivedi

<trivedi20 wrote:

 

Dear Sreeram Sreenivas,

 

I request you to suggest prayers and Mantras. Will it be OK if the

Mantras are recited by the father?

 

D D Trivedi

 

sreeram srinivas sreeram64 wrote:

Dear Trivedi saab,

 

I would strongly advise the importance of muhurta in such marriage

occasions from a competent astro in your area....many afflictions in

individual hororscopes can be to an extent corrected through an

intelligent muhurat....I do know few people who do it professional with

very sound logics in New_Delhi, but they charge a fee of

Rs.4,000-5,000.

Though I also know the techniques, but for want of time and other job

responsibilities .....

 

I personally against any costly remedies like wearing

gemstones...etc....other than use of prayer or mantras......

 

with regards,

 

sreeram_srinivas

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Dear Sir,

 

When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal importance to 6th

lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing divorce. I do not

know why you overlooked what I said about 6th lord aspecting 7th and

tried to negate my reasoning by emphasising on 7th lord in 12th. May

be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt like putting down

what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying reasoning by KAS

alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying to integrate the

working points from all systems and trying to apply them for my

learning. I am trying to pick up the best and plausible clues from

all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying to learn from

them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much. Whatever methods

we follow, all must lead to the same results, that is what astrology

must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody can create their

own branches of this divine science and destroy it. So please do not

try to crucify me at the first instance.

 

Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot create an event. My

sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not divorced,

(Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is in 12th it need

not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a friendly sign can

modify the effects, can be just separation, husband staying away due

to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord can modify the

effects. A lot of other factors need to be considered. I am not a

pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings from whatever I

have read so far. Anyways I do believe that position of 7th lord in

12th does negatively affect marital harmony. This what I have

observed.

 

Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and 12th lord Moon are

in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon being in its own

sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th. The negative

effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord saturn with moon in

12th, taking into account the opposite nature of these planets, their

life can be very cold and indifferent without any emotions towards

each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with legal issues, court

cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce) effects of saturn

is less when compared with 7th house effects because 7th (Aquarius)

is the moola trikona of saturn. What I have understood is if a planet

owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona, the result of moola trikona

predominates. So again the chances of staying together gains weight

than getting legally separated.

 

Viewing in another angle, without considering the exchange efects,

let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna lord. As per what I

know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive results to the houses

he is associated with by means of position, aspect, association with

lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna lord tries to

impart positive results for 7th as it is in conjunction with 7th

lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being together shows the native

and his partner trying to stick together irrespective of the

differences.

These are the reasons I can find with my minimal knowledge. If I am

wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I think this

person's married life is as good as separated.

 

For my learning, can you please let me know the personlity of this

person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily depressed? Also

was he always in his native place or did he go abroad any time? Does

he have any serious health problems?

 

 

Regards,

Jyothi

 

 

 

 

 

 

, ramesh mishra

<aarceemastro2002 wrote:

>

> Dear Jyothi, Ash and all,

> I give you one chart of a male native who is closely related to

me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and 2nd lord occupy 12th

house.

> According to the verdict of Jyothi he should have divorced his

spouse

> because of 7th lord in 12th.

> In fact it is not so. They married 38 years before and still

living together.No doubt there married life is hell but staying

together.

> Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he was not

divorced ?

> His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB 08:03:11 and POB 24 N

46, 84 E 23

> INDIA.

> He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters.

> He served in defence forces in IAF and took volunteerly

retirement after doing service in armed forces.

> Again after two years of retirement he got a job in central

government.

> Between this period of two years, he was not jobless.He has been

doing job in a private co.

> If she can analyse it will be good learning for us.

> Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

> Ash <kas wrote:

> Dear Jyothi,

>

> Here 2 laws of KAS are matching.

>

> 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt.

> 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and aspecting 7th

house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa.

> 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8 points, and such

marriages will break in highest power planet so dasha of Saturn when

it came it will break the marriage.

> 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3 zeroes in SAV.

Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house.

>

> 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn, will stick to

her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so difference is much

more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons, ego are very

fragile.

>

> Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of Ju and breaks in

Ju. As per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws of KAS i.e.

Marriage in lowest power planet will break in Highest power planet of

6th or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is very powerful,

being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E along with Karak

i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the chart.

>

> Marriage in 6th lord's antra which is only 8 points in 7th house

and breaks in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th house and very

powerful for all 12 houses. Note Sa is in 10th house from Sun. Sa

is with 3 bindus and Sun is with 6.

>

> Calculation of Delay of Marriage.

>

> Saturn is aspecting 2nd house, and is with Mars who is lord of

7th house and its in 10th from Sun and controlling Sun, so full delay

due to Saturn. Full delay of Saturn will be 7.5 years but here

Saturn has already traversed to 29deg04 in Virgo at time of birth so

delay is reduced by 2.5 year (approx) so delay of about 5.5 years

from the normal marriage age as per the community. So delay might be

about 23.5 years. 18 year (legal marriage age as per India) + 5.5

years so 23.5 years. Ju is also causing delay. After delay of

Saturn is over, we add the delay of Jupiter as well, so Ju will be in

1st house aspecting 7th house so about 24 years the delay is over.

There are 3 zeros as well, which in extreme cases would show very

unhappy marriage or even denial of marriage, here there is blessing

from Moon i.e. Moon and 9th lords are in 5:9 i.e. Venus and Saturn so

due to that maybe marriage has taken place and also 2nd and 7th lords

are in 12th house and enhanced, so adding

> good status and that is why Marriage has taken place, but it

cannot last.

>

> This lady is intelligent; she has 2 sectors falling in Shani, in

navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa. She also is a quite smart as she

has 2 sectors falling in Mercury in navamsa dreshkon and trishansa.

She must have quite s sharp tounge, her words can hurt others, she

might be living near water body or hills.

>

> Jyothi, here this chart has all our discussions a good nimita J

>

> My point of doing all this analysis is to highlight all our

discussions which being.

>

> 1. SAV points in 1st and 7th – recent discussion. 34 points in

lagna with Ju showing more egoistic and adamant person and not having

compromising nature. Moon is in fixed sign as well and Sun is in sco

in navamsa.

> 2. 2nd and 7th lord in upachaya sthan, i.e .7th lord in 12th and

2nd lord in 12th. Marriage has taken place (timing of event)

> 3. Laws for divorce i.e. Ju in libra, 6th lord in lagna with more

bindus particularly Ju for libra lagna as its 7th lord and it aspects

7th house and 2nd lord with malefic dristi.

> 4. Dasha of planet – i..e Marriage taking place in lowest points

as per KAS program i.e in this case its 8 points and the break of

marriage in highest power planet i.e. Saturn with 24 points in 7th

house and its 4th or 12th lord. In this case its 4th lord and in

12th house.

> 5. Ma and Sa in 12th house so results of 4th, 5th, 2nd and 7th

house are enhanced.

> 6. Effect of 0's in SAV (this is a special chart and quite rare

to have 3 zeroes in SAV)

> 7. This also covers the " enjoyment of cars and assets " logic if

12th lord is in 4th house and in this case Mars has 0 points in SAV

in 4th house. So she might have problems in owning property of

vehicles but will get to enjoy them.

>

>

>

>

> Antardasha

> Start

> To

> Jupiter

> 2005-Apr-05

> 2007-May-24

> Saturn

> 2007-May-24

> 2009-Dec-05

>

>

> Hse

> SAV

> Su

> Mo

> Ma

> Me

> Ju

> Ve

> Sa

> 1

> 34

> 10

> 21

> 8

> 15

> 19

> 14

> 17

> 2

> 28

> 19

> 5

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> 15

> 10

> 14

> 41

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> 14

> 18

> 12

> 21

> 5

> 16

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> 24

> 8

> 13

> 6

> 20

> 13

> 22

> 16

> 5

> 21

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> 14

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> 12

> 28

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> 29

> 18

> 15

> 21

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> 6

> 36

> 7

> 19

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> 5

> 8

> 18

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> 8

> 29

> 14

> 10

> 11

> 16

> 11

> 18

> 26

> 9

> 31

> 7

> 12

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> 13

> 23

> 13

> 30

> 10

> 36

> 15

> 11

> 13

> 14

> 20

> 10

> 26

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> 27

> 16

> 14

> 13

> 16

> 11

> 21

> 38

> 12

> 28

> 9

> 10

> 7

> 17

> 9

> 11

> 21

>

>

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

>

>

>

>

On Behalf Of

jyothi_b_lakshmi

> Friday December 21, 2007 5:37 AM

>

> Re: Reason for Divorce

>

>

> Dear Sir,

>

> For Libra Asc Guru is a malefic. That too 6th lord(12th of 7th). So

> Guru's aspect should not be considered as favourable for married

> life. Guru's aspect being 6th lord aspecting 7th will create

> hostility with partner. The reason for divorce is obvious. 7th lord

> Mars in 12th, that too in its enemey sign is one of the main reason

> for divorce. I have obsereved this in many divorce charts and had

> mentioned in one of my previous posts.

>

> Regards,

> Jyothi

>

> , dushyant trivedi

> <trivedi20@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Learned Astrologers,

> >

> > I have come across a horoscope of a educated girl intelligent and

> well employed in Multination who got divorced almost immediately

> after marriage with aparent difficult to understand

astrologolically.

> The birth details are as under

> >

> > DOB 8th Jan 1982

> > TOB 01.32 am

> > POB Vadodara, Gujarat formally known as Baroda

> >

> > The above details are correct.

>

> >

> > Married in the month of may/june 2006. The Boy was working in

> London. She joined him after few months in London and almost within

a

> week she was sent back to India by the Boy's family. Officially

> divoced tok place during Nov 2007.

> >

> > The girl has Libra ascendant with Guru in it and aspecting the

> 7th house. The marriage took place in Guru Mahadasha and also got

> divorced. Astrologically the aspect of Guru on the 7th house should

> give god and happy married life but the it is not so in this case.

> >

> > She has Mars and Saturn in the 17th house. The Saturn is in

> Parivartan yoga with Mercury in the 4th house. Exalted Moon in the

> 8th house and Rahu and Ketu are also exalted. As such there is no

> affliction to the 7th house then why the divorce?

> >

> > D D Trivedi

> >

> >

> >

> > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

> >

>

>

>

>

 

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>

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Dear Jyothi Ji,

Namaskar,

I do appreciate your comments.

I am not biased to any system.

But ofcourse, I give priority no.1 to KAS.

Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct

prediction.

I have experienced VA more complicated and confusing

for timing any event.

Now as for the chart, the native's married life is not

ok and sometimes there is querrelling among them and

the situation becomes so nasty both of them becomes

ready to divorce but after few hours everything comes

to normal and they live together happily for months

together.

Nobody knows when the happy situation will take turn.

As far as I know native never faced depression.

He never went abroad and no chances in future also

because his financial condition is not so strong.

He has been mostly visiting many places in India.

He took birth in a small village but after 4 years of

birth he never stayed in his birth place .

As I have stated in my mail he is a govt,servant and

that to in armed forces.

What planetary combinations made him to be a govt

servant ?

I could not find it out till now?

Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

 

--- jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi

wrote:

 

> Dear Sir,

>

> When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal

> importance to 6th

> lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing

> divorce. I do not

> know why you overlooked what I said about 6th lord

> aspecting 7th and

> tried to negate my reasoning by emphasising on 7th

> lord in 12th. May

> be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt

> like putting down

> what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying

> reasoning by KAS

> alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying

> to integrate the

> working points from all systems and trying to apply

> them for my

> learning. I am trying to pick up the best and

> plausible clues from

> all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying

> to learn from

> them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much.

> Whatever methods

> we follow, all must lead to the same results, that

> is what astrology

> must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody

> can create their

> own branches of this divine science and destroy it.

> So please do not

> try to crucify me at the first instance.

>

> Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot

> create an event. My

> sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not

> divorced,

> (Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is

> in 12th it need

> not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a

> friendly sign can

> modify the effects, can be just separation, husband

> staying away due

> to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord

> can modify the

> effects. A lot of other factors need to be

> considered. I am not a

> pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings

> from whatever I

> have read so far. Anyways I do believe that position

> of 7th lord in

> 12th does negatively affect marital harmony. This

> what I have

> observed.

>

> Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and

> 12th lord Moon are

> in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon

> being in its own

> sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th.

> The negative

> effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord

> saturn with moon in

> 12th, taking into account the opposite nature of

> these planets, their

> life can be very cold and indifferent without any

> emotions towards

> each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with

> legal issues, court

> cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce)

> effects of saturn

> is less when compared with 7th house effects because

> 7th (Aquarius)

> is the moola trikona of saturn. What I have

> understood is if a planet

> owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona, the result

> of moola trikona

> predominates. So again the chances of staying

> together gains weight

> than getting legally separated.

>

> Viewing in another angle, without considering the

> exchange efects,

> let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna

> lord. As per what I

> know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive

> results to the houses

> he is associated with by means of position, aspect,

> association with

> lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna

> lord tries to

> impart positive results for 7th as it is in

> conjunction with 7th

> lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being together

> shows the native

> and his partner trying to stick together

> irrespective of the

> differences.

> These are the reasons I can find with my minimal

> knowledge. If I am

> wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I

> think this

> person's married life is as good as separated.

>

> For my learning, can you please let me know the

> personlity of this

> person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily

> depressed? Also

> was he always in his native place or did he go

> abroad any time? Does

> he have any serious health problems?

>

>

> Regards,

> Jyothi

,

> ramesh mishra

> <aarceemastro2002 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jyothi, Ash and all,

> > I give you one chart of a male native who is

> closely related to

> me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and 2nd

> lord occupy 12th

> house.

> > According to the verdict of Jyothi he should

> have divorced his

> spouse

> > because of 7th lord in 12th.

> > In fact it is not so. They married 38 years

> before and still

> living together.No doubt there married life is hell

> but staying

> together.

> > Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he

> was not

> divorced ?

> > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB

> 08:03:11 and POB 24 N

> 46, 84 E 23

> > INDIA.

> > He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters.

> > He served in defence forces in IAF and took

> volunteerly

> retirement after doing service in armed forces.

> > Again after two years of retirement he got a job

> in central

> government.

> > Between this period of two years, he was not

> jobless.He has been

> doing job in a private co.

> > If she can analyse it will be good learning for

> us.

> > Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> > Ash <kas wrote:

> > Dear Jyothi,

> >

> > Here 2 laws of KAS are matching.

> >

> > 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt.

> > 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and

> aspecting 7th

> house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa.

> > 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8

> points, and such

> marriages will break in highest power planet so

> dasha of Saturn when

> it came it will break the marriage.

> > 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3

> zeroes in SAV.

> Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house.

> >

> > 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn,

> will stick to

> her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so

> difference is much

> more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons,

> ego are very

> fragile.

> >

> > Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of

> Ju and breaks in

> Ju. As per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws

> of KAS i.e.

> Marriage in lowest power planet will break in

> Highest power planet of

> 6th or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is

> very powerful,

> being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E

> along with Karak

> i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the chart.

> >

> > Marriage in 6th lord's antra which is only 8

> points in 7th house

> and breaks in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th

> house

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Dear Mishra ji, If I may jump in, I could find one reason for his profession. Please see that his 10L Venus in Rasi occupies Mars amsha along with Sun. I guess this could indicate that the person worked for govt. in armed forces. Of course, I need to see more charts and see if this can consistently observed. But, I feel that this could be one valid reason among many others. Regards, Krishnaramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Dear Jyothi Ji,Namaskar,I do

appreciate your comments.I am not biased to any system.But ofcourse, I give priority no.1 to KAS.Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correctprediction.I have experienced VA more complicated and confusingfor timing any event.Now as for the chart, the native's married life is notok and sometimes there is querrelling among them andthe situation becomes so nasty both of them becomesready to divorce but after few hours everything comesto normal and they live together happily for monthstogether.Nobody knows when the happy situation will take turn.As far as I know native never faced depression.He never went abroad and no chances in future alsobecause his financial condition is not so strong.He has been mostly visiting many places in India.He took birth in a small village but after 4 years ofbirth he never stayed in his birth place .As I have stated in my mail he is a govt,servant andthat to

in armed forces.What planetary combinations made him to be a govtservant ? I could not find it out till now?Thanks and regards.Ramesh Mishra --- jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi (AT) (DOT) co.in>wrote:> Dear Sir,> > When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal> importance to 6th > lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing> divorce. I do not > know why you overlooked what I said about 6th lord> aspecting 7th and > tried to negate my reasoning by emphasising on 7th> lord in 12th. May > be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt> like putting down > what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying> reasoning by KAS > alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying> to integrate the > working points from all systems and trying to

apply> them for my > learning. I am trying to pick up the best and> plausible clues from > all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying> to learn from > them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much.> Whatever methods > we follow, all must lead to the same results, that> is what astrology > must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody> can create their > own branches of this divine science and destroy it.> So please do not > try to crucify me at the first instance. > > Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot> create an event. My > sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not> divorced, > (Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is> in 12th it need > not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a> friendly sign can > modify the effects, can be just separation,

husband> staying away due > to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord> can modify the > effects. A lot of other factors need to be> considered. I am not a > pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings> from whatever I > have read so far. Anyways I do believe that position> of 7th lord in > 12th does negatively affect marital harmony. This> what I have > observed.> > Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and> 12th lord Moon are > in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon> being in its own > sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th.> The negative > effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord> saturn with moon in > 12th, taking into account the opposite nature of> these planets, their > life can be very cold and indifferent without any> emotions towards

> each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with> legal issues, court > cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce)> effects of saturn > is less when compared with 7th house effects because> 7th (Aquarius) > is the moola trikona of saturn. What I have> understood is if a planet > owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona, the result> of moola trikona > predominates. So again the chances of staying> together gains weight > than getting legally separated. > > Viewing in another angle, without considering the> exchange efects, > let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna> lord. As per what I > know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive> results to the houses > he is associated with by means of position, aspect,> association with > lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna> lord tries

to > impart positive results for 7th as it is in> conjunction with 7th > lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being together> shows the native > and his partner trying to stick together> irrespective of the > differences. > These are the reasons I can find with my minimal> knowledge. If I am > wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I> think this > person's married life is as good as separated. > > For my learning, can you please let me know the> personlity of this > person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily> depressed? Also > was he always in his native place or did he go> abroad any time? Does > he have any serious health problems?> > > Regards,> Jyothi> > > > > > > ,> ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002 wrote:> >> > Dear Jyothi, Ash and all,> > I give you one chart of a male native who is> closely related to > me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and 2nd> lord occupy 12th > house.> > According to the verdict of Jyothi he should> have divorced his > spouse> > because of 7th lord in 12th.> > In fact it is not so. They married 38 years> before and still > living together.No doubt there married life is hell> but staying > together.> > Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he> was not > divorced ?> > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> 08:03:11 and POB 24 N > 46, 84 E 23> > INDIA.>

> He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters.> > He served in defence forces in IAF and took> volunteerly > retirement after doing service in armed forces.> > Again after two years of retirement he got a job> in central > government.> > Between this period of two years, he was not> jobless.He has been > doing job in a private co.> > If she can analyse it will be good learning for> us.> > Thanks and regards.> > Ramesh Mishra> > Ash <kas wrote:> > Dear Jyothi,> > > > Here 2 laws of KAS are matching.> > > > 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt.> > 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and> aspecting 7th > house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa.> > 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8> points, and such > marriages will break

in highest power planet so> dasha of Saturn when > it came it will break the marriage. > > 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3> zeroes in SAV. > Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house.> > > > 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn,> will stick to > her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so> difference is much > more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons,> ego are very > fragile. > > > > Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of> Ju and breaks in > Ju. As per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws> of KAS i.e. > Marriage in lowest power planet will break in> Highest power planet of > 6th or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is> very powerful, > being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E> along with Karak > i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of

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Dear Sir,

 

Thank you for the details. Does he have any chronic illness? I just

want to know the effect of exchange between 1st and 12th.

 

Regards,

Jyothi

 

, ramesh mishra

<aarceemastro2002 wrote:

>

> Dear Jyothi Ji,

> Namaskar,

> I do appreciate your comments.

> I am not biased to any system.

> But ofcourse, I give priority no.1 to KAS.

> Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct

> prediction.

> I have experienced VA more complicated and confusing

> for timing any event.

> Now as for the chart, the native's married life is not

> ok and sometimes there is querrelling among them and

> the situation becomes so nasty both of them becomes

> ready to divorce but after few hours everything comes

> to normal and they live together happily for months

> together.

> Nobody knows when the happy situation will take turn.

> As far as I know native never faced depression.

> He never went abroad and no chances in future also

> because his financial condition is not so strong.

> He has been mostly visiting many places in India.

> He took birth in a small village but after 4 years of

> birth he never stayed in his birth place .

> As I have stated in my mail he is a govt,servant and

> that to in armed forces.

> What planetary combinations made him to be a govt

> servant ?

> I could not find it out till now?

> Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> --- jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi

> wrote:

>

> > Dear Sir,

> >

> > When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal

> > importance to 6th

> > lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing

> > divorce. I do not

> > know why you overlooked what I said about 6th lord

> > aspecting 7th and

> > tried to negate my reasoning by emphasising on 7th

> > lord in 12th. May

> > be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt

> > like putting down

> > what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying

> > reasoning by KAS

> > alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying

> > to integrate the

> > working points from all systems and trying to apply

> > them for my

> > learning. I am trying to pick up the best and

> > plausible clues from

> > all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying

> > to learn from

> > them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much.

> > Whatever methods

> > we follow, all must lead to the same results, that

> > is what astrology

> > must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody

> > can create their

> > own branches of this divine science and destroy it.

> > So please do not

> > try to crucify me at the first instance.

> >

> > Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot

> > create an event. My

> > sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not

> > divorced,

> > (Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is

> > in 12th it need

> > not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a

> > friendly sign can

> > modify the effects, can be just separation, husband

> > staying away due

> > to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord

> > can modify the

> > effects. A lot of other factors need to be

> > considered. I am not a

> > pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings

> > from whatever I

> > have read so far. Anyways I do believe that position

> > of 7th lord in

> > 12th does negatively affect marital harmony. This

> > what I have

> > observed.

> >

> > Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and

> > 12th lord Moon are

> > in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon

> > being in its own

> > sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th.

> > The negative

> > effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord

> > saturn with moon in

> > 12th, taking into account the opposite nature of

> > these planets, their

> > life can be very cold and indifferent without any

> > emotions towards

> > each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with

> > legal issues, court

> > cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce)

> > effects of saturn

> > is less when compared with 7th house effects because

> > 7th (Aquarius)

> > is the moola trikona of saturn. What I have

> > understood is if a planet

> > owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona, the result

> > of moola trikona

> > predominates. So again the chances of staying

> > together gains weight

> > than getting legally separated.

> >

> > Viewing in another angle, without considering the

> > exchange efects,

> > let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna

> > lord. As per what I

> > know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive

> > results to the houses

> > he is associated with by means of position, aspect,

> > association with

> > lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna

> > lord tries to

> > impart positive results for 7th as it is in

> > conjunction with 7th

> > lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being together

> > shows the native

> > and his partner trying to stick together

> > irrespective of the

> > differences.

> > These are the reasons I can find with my minimal

> > knowledge. If I am

> > wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I

> > think this

> > person's married life is as good as separated.

> >

> > For my learning, can you please let me know the

> > personlity of this

> > person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily

> > depressed? Also

> > was he always in his native place or did he go

> > abroad any time? Does

> > he have any serious health problems?

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> > Jyothi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ,

> > ramesh mishra

> > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Jyothi, Ash and all,

> > > I give you one chart of a male native who is

> > closely related to

> > me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and 2nd

> > lord occupy 12th

> > house.

> > > According to the verdict of Jyothi he should

> > have divorced his

> > spouse

> > > because of 7th lord in 12th.

> > > In fact it is not so. They married 38 years

> > before and still

> > living together.No doubt there married life is hell

> > but staying

> > together.

> > > Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he

> > was not

> > divorced ?

> > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB

> > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N

> > 46, 84 E 23

> > > INDIA.

> > > He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters.

> > > He served in defence forces in IAF and took

> > volunteerly

> > retirement after doing service in armed forces.

> > > Again after two years of retirement he got a job

> > in central

> > government.

> > > Between this period of two years, he was not

> > jobless.He has been

> > doing job in a private co.

> > > If she can analyse it will be good learning for

> > us.

> > > Thanks and regards.

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > Ash <kas@> wrote:

> > > Dear Jyothi,

> > >

> > > Here 2 laws of KAS are matching.

> > >

> > > 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt.

> > > 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and

> > aspecting 7th

> > house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa.

> > > 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8

> > points, and such

> > marriages will break in highest power planet so

> > dasha of Saturn when

> > it came it will break the marriage.

> > > 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3

> > zeroes in SAV.

> > Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house.

> > >

> > > 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn,

> > will stick to

> > her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so

> > difference is much

> > more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons,

> > ego are very

> > fragile.

> > >

> > > Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of

> > Ju and breaks in

> > Ju. As per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws

> > of KAS i.e.

> > Marriage in lowest power planet will break in

> > Highest power planet of

> > 6th or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is

> > very powerful,

> > being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E

> > along with Karak

> > i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the chart.

> > >

> > > Marriage in 6th lord's antra which is only 8

> > points in 7th house

> > and breaks in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th

> > house

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>

>

>

>

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Never.On the contrary he has strong immunity. You may ask anything related with this native because he is closely related to me. Thanks Ramesh Mishrajyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi wrote: Dear Sir,Thank you for the details. Does he have any chronic illness? I just want to know the effect of exchange between 1st and 12th.Regards,Jyothi , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:>> Dear Jyothi Ji,> Namaskar,> I do appreciate your comments.> I am not biased to any system.> But ofcourse, I give priority no.1 to KAS.> Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correct> prediction.> I have experienced VA more complicated and confusing> for timing any event.> Now as for the chart, the native's married life is not> ok and sometimes there is querrelling among them and> the situation becomes so nasty both of them becomes> ready to divorce but after few hours everything comes> to normal and they live together happily for months> together.> Nobody knows when the happy situation will take turn.> As far as I know native never faced depression.> He never

went abroad and no chances in future also> because his financial condition is not so strong.> He has been mostly visiting many places in India.> He took birth in a small village but after 4 years of> birth he never stayed in his birth place .> As I have stated in my mail he is a govt,servant and> that to in armed forces.> What planetary combinations made him to be a govt> servant ? > I could not find it out till now?> Thanks and regards.> Ramesh Mishra > > --- jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi> wrote:> > > Dear Sir,> > > > When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal> > importance to 6th > > lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing> > divorce. I do not > > know why you overlooked what I said about 6th lord> > aspecting 7th and > > tried to negate my

reasoning by emphasising on 7th> > lord in 12th. May > > be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt> > like putting down > > what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying> > reasoning by KAS > > alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying> > to integrate the > > working points from all systems and trying to apply> > them for my > > learning. I am trying to pick up the best and> > plausible clues from > > all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying> > to learn from > > them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much.> > Whatever methods > > we follow, all must lead to the same results, that> > is what astrology > > must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody> > can create their > > own branches of this divine science and destroy it.>

> So please do not > > try to crucify me at the first instance. > > > > Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot> > create an event. My > > sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not> > divorced, > > (Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is> > in 12th it need > > not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a> > friendly sign can > > modify the effects, can be just separation, husband> > staying away due > > to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord> > can modify the > > effects. A lot of other factors need to be> > considered. I am not a > > pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings> > from whatever I > > have read so far. Anyways I do believe that position> > of 7th lord in > > 12th does negatively affect marital

harmony. This> > what I have > > observed.> > > > Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and> > 12th lord Moon are > > in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon> > being in its own > > sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th.> > The negative > > effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord> > saturn with moon in > > 12th, taking into account the opposite nature of> > these planets, their > > life can be very cold and indifferent without any> > emotions towards > > each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with> > legal issues, court > > cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce)> > effects of saturn > > is less when compared with 7th house effects because> > 7th (Aquarius) > > is the moola trikona of saturn. What I

have> > understood is if a planet > > owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona, the result> > of moola trikona > > predominates. So again the chances of staying> > together gains weight > > than getting legally separated. > > > > Viewing in another angle, without considering the> > exchange efects, > > let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna> > lord. As per what I > > know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive> > results to the houses > > he is associated with by means of position, aspect,> > association with > > lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna> > lord tries to > > impart positive results for 7th as it is in> > conjunction with 7th > > lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being together> > shows the native > > and his partner

trying to stick together> > irrespective of the > > differences. > > These are the reasons I can find with my minimal> > knowledge. If I am > > wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I> > think this > > person's married life is as good as separated. > > > > For my learning, can you please let me know the> > personlity of this > > person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily> > depressed? Also > > was he always in his native place or did he go> > abroad any time? Does > > he have any serious health problems?> > > > > > Regards,> > Jyothi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ,>

> ramesh mishra > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Jyothi, Ash and all,> > > I give you one chart of a male native who is> > closely related to > > me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and 2nd> > lord occupy 12th > > house.> > > According to the verdict of Jyothi he should> > have divorced his > > spouse> > > because of 7th lord in 12th.> > > In fact it is not so. They married 38 years> > before and still > > living together.No doubt there married life is hell> > but staying > > together.> > > Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he> > was not > > divorced ?> > > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> > 08:03:11 and POB 24 N > > 46, 84 E 23> > > INDIA.> >

> He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters.> > > He served in defence forces in IAF and took> > volunteerly > > retirement after doing service in armed forces.> > > Again after two years of retirement he got a job> > in central > > government.> > > Between this period of two years, he was not> > jobless.He has been > > doing job in a private co.> > > If she can analyse it will be good learning for> > us.> > > Thanks and regards.> > > Ramesh Mishra> > > Ash <kas@> wrote:> > > Dear Jyothi,> > > > > > Here 2 laws of KAS are matching.> > > > > > 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt.> > > 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and> > aspecting 7th > > house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa.>

> > 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8> > points, and such > > marriages will break in highest power planet so> > dasha of Saturn when > > it came it will break the marriage. > > > 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3> > zeroes in SAV. > > Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house.> > > > > > 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn,> > will stick to > > her guns and 7th house has only 19 bindus so> > difference is much > > more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons,> > ego are very > > fragile. > > > > > > Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of> > Ju and breaks in > > Ju. As per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws> > of KAS i.e. > > Marriage in lowest power planet will break in> >

Highest power planet of > > 6th or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is> > very powerful, > > being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E> > along with Karak > > i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the chart. > > > > > > Marriage in 6th lord's antra which is only 8> > points in 7th house > > and breaks in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th> > house > === message truncated ===> > > > > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Go to http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php>

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Dear Krishna Ji, Many many thanks for giving insight.One way you may be correct. His profession may be divided into two steps.1. A govt.servant and 2. A soldier in airforce. According to me , I may be wrong also because in another chart I did not find the same result, Sun is government and Sat is servant.Both of these two planets reside in 12th house and conjunct with labhesh and dhanesh Mercury and they aspect 6th house of job. 12th house indicate here foreign place. I meant here away from birth place. Since Ve (10th lord ) resides here in lagna alongwith Mo the 12th lord which may be said that service in the place away from his birth place. Ma is soldier and Ju is ether means sky and Ju and Ma is aspected by 6th lord Sa from 12th house. Ju aspects 6th and 10th house . I casted this chart according to krushnas ayanamsa so there is some difference in navamsa. In navamsa Ma is in amsa of 6th lord Sa and aspects 10th house and Ra . This Ra is in 10th in rasi. Ra is a technical planet and native is working in a technical field. In navamsa Ma aspects 10th and Ra. 10thlord of Rasi is in Ju amsa.10th lord of navamsa Mo is again in the 12th house and conjuct with Ju and Sa. All these three planets aspect 6th house and Sa also aspect Su.Ju aspects Ma. Now in D10 chart Ve , Ma and Sa aspects 10th house. 10th lord is Ma. Sa again aspects 6th and Ju In brief we can say that there is strong relationship between Su. Sa . Ju , Ma and 6th and 10th house. So the native is in a govt service, in armed forces and in air force ( Ju) Now after doing 20 years of service in armed forces he resigned from that service and no sooner he joined another govt.service and this service is also related with Ju. He is working now in

airport. So this is my analysis pertaining to the service of the native. I did not go in detail about the resident of planets in nakshtras. But they are all concerned with nakshtras also. I may be wrong also but I have to examine this planetary combinations with many charts who is govt.servant. If I am wrong anywhere please do correct me. Thanks and regard. Ramesh MishraKrishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: Dear Mishra

ji, If I may jump in, I could find one reason for his profession. Please see that his 10L Venus in Rasi occupies Mars amsha along with Sun. I guess this could indicate that the person worked for govt. in armed forces. Of course, I need to see more charts and see if this can consistently observed. But, I feel that this could be one valid reason among many others. Regards, Krishnaramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Jyothi Ji,Namaskar,I do appreciate your comments.I am not biased to any system.But ofcourse, I give priority no.1 to KAS.Astrology,mainly,gains reputation on correctprediction.I have experienced VA more complicated and confusingfor timing any event.Now as for the chart, the native's married life is notok and

sometimes there is querrelling among them andthe situation becomes so nasty both of them becomesready to divorce but after few hours everything comesto normal and they live together happily for monthstogether.Nobody knows when the happy situation will take turn.As far as I know native never faced depression.He never went abroad and no chances in future alsobecause his financial condition is not so strong.He has been mostly visiting many places in India.He took birth in a small village but after 4 years ofbirth he never stayed in his birth place .As I have stated in my mail he is a govt,servant andthat to in armed forces.What planetary combinations made him to be a govtservant ? I could not find it out till now?Thanks and regards.Ramesh Mishra --- jyothi_b_lakshmi <jyothi_b_lakshmi (AT) (DOT) co.in>wrote:> Dear

Sir,> > When I replied to Trivedijis post, I gave equal> importance to 6th > lord in Asc as well as 7th lord in 12th for causing> divorce. I do not > know why you overlooked what I said about 6th lord> aspecting 7th and > tried to negate my reasoning by emphasising on 7th> lord in 12th. May > be you are too biased to KAS system that you felt> like putting down > what I mentioned as probable causes. But saying> reasoning by KAS > alone is right was not fair. As for me, I am trying> to integrate the > working points from all systems and trying to apply> them for my > learning. I am trying to pick up the best and> plausible clues from > all systems. There can be mismatches. But I m trying> to learn from > them. Otherwise I would not have bugged Ash so much.> Whatever methods > we follow, all must lead to the

same results, that> is what astrology > must be as a holistic science. Otherwise everybody> can create their > own branches of this divine science and destroy it.> So please do not > try to crucify me at the first instance. > > Everybody knows that just one factor alone cannot> create an event. My > sister in law has 7th lord in 12th. They have not> divorced, > (Touchwood) by Gods grace. Just because 7th lord is> in 12th it need > not cause a divorce. 7th lord in 12th if in a> friendly sign can > modify the effects, can be just separation, husband> staying away due > to his profession etc. Again being with Lagna lord> can modify the > effects. A lot of other factors need to be> considered. I am not a > pandit in astrology. But these are my understandings> from whatever I > have read so far. Anyways I do

believe that position> of 7th lord in > 12th does negatively affect marital harmony. This> what I have > observed.> > Now about the chart you gave, Lagna lord Sun and> 12th lord Moon are > in exchange. So let me treat Moon as in 12th. Moon> being in its own > sign, can give positive effects regarding the 12th.> The negative > effects of 12 are thus soothened. But 7th lord> saturn with moon in > 12th, taking into account the opposite nature of> these planets, their > life can be very cold and indifferent without any> emotions towards > each other. Again the 6th house (which deals with> legal issues, court > cases etc that must essentially follow a divorce)> effects of saturn > is less when compared with 7th house effects because> 7th (Aquarius) > is the moola trikona of saturn. What I have> understood

is if a planet > owns 2 houses and one is a moola trikona, the result> of moola trikona > predominates. So again the chances of staying> together gains weight > than getting legally separated. > > Viewing in another angle, without considering the> exchange efects, > let me take sun in 12th itself. Sun is the Lagna> lord. As per what I > know, Lagnadhipa always tries to give positive> results to the houses > he is associated with by means of position, aspect,> association with > lords, association with star lord etc. Here lagna> lord tries to > impart positive results for 7th as it is in> conjunction with 7th > lord. Also Lagna lord and 7th lord being together> shows the native > and his partner trying to stick together> irrespective of the > differences. > These are the reasons I can find with my

minimal> knowledge. If I am > wrong, others please correct me. Whatever it is, I> think this > person's married life is as good as separated. > > For my learning, can you please let me know the> personlity of this > person? Is of a gloomy nature? I mean getting easily> depressed? Also > was he always in his native place or did he go> abroad any time? Does > he have any serious health problems?> > > Regards,> Jyothi> > > > > > > ,> ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002 wrote:> >> > Dear Jyothi, Ash and all,> > I give you one chart of a male native who is> closely related to > me and I know his past events .His 7th lord and

2nd> lord occupy 12th > house.> > According to the verdict of Jyothi he should> have divorced his > spouse> > because of 7th lord in 12th.> > In fact it is not so. They married 38 years> before and still > living together.No doubt there married life is hell> but staying > together.> > Can Jyothi analyse according to VA system why he> was not > divorced ?> > His birth details is DOB 31 July 1946, TOB> 08:03:11 and POB 24 N > 46, 84 E 23> > INDIA.> > He married on 28 Feb 1970 and has two daughters.> > He served in defence forces in IAF and took> volunteerly > retirement after doing service in armed forces.> > Again after two years of retirement he got a job> in central > government.> > Between this period of two years, he was not> jobless.He has been >

doing job in a private co.> > If she can analyse it will be good learning for> us.> > Thanks and regards.> > Ramesh Mishra> > Ash <kas wrote:> > Dear Jyothi,> > > > Here 2 laws of KAS are matching.> > > > 1. Ju is in libra so Ju is spoilt.> > 2. Ju is 6th lord and in Lagna with 6 bindus and> aspecting 7th > house in Rasi and 2nd lord Mars in navamsa.> > 3. Marriage in antra of 6th lord Jupiter with 8> points, and such > marriages will break in highest power planet so> dasha of Saturn when > it came it will break the marriage. > > 4. This is a very special chart, and it has 3> zeroes in SAV. > Mars in 4th house and Saturn in 7th and 8th house.> > > > 5. Lagna has 34 bindus so showing more stubborn,> will stick to > her guns and 7th house has only 19

bindus so> difference is much > more. Particularly Ju is in lagna. Such persons,> ego are very > fragile. > > > > Now here, as per Lahiri, marriage is in antra of> Ju and breaks in > Ju. As per Krushna's ayanamsa it matches the Laws> of KAS i.e. > Marriage in lowest power planet will break in> Highest power planet of > 6th or 10th lord from 7th so in this case, Saturn is> very powerful, > being 4th lord in 12th house i.e. LoD in House E> along with Karak > i.e. Mars, 2nd lord of the chart. > > > > Marriage in 6th lord's antra which is only 8> points in 7th house > and breaks in Saturn antra who has 24 points for 7th> house === message truncated ===Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Go to http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

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