Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 GOOD MORNING ALLC MEMBERS regarding neecha gragha it seems to give good results generally whether cancellation ornot i have seen most of people withvenus , mars , saturn deblitated are well off in life in every sense wife having mercury neecha 10 3 1959 saturn star cancer lagna cleared mercury dasa in meena with good job marriage job et etc nothingshort fagther had venusdebitated in virgo with mithuna lagna 15 11 1924 had venus dasa financially welloff goodhouse etc etc i am having mars deblitated 7th lord for rishabha lagna 31 7 1953 having everything in life goodwife marriewd for 22 year no breaks good job children parents house everything mars has not denied anything (except no blood brothersand sisters) ofcourse good lot of nice cousins How3ever i have seen many friends relatives having ucha planets suffering lot in every sense 11 5 1967 c ancer lagna moon str moon , jupiter sun exalgted now running jupiter period not able to earn nojob no marriage no house father left mother very early (not died) good person not able to earn even 2000 pm could not find any reason for such failures in life himself an astrologer profesional with very min. income another relative had jupiter in lagna had his dasa struggled and died in the dasa itself (19 10 1919 ) cancer lagna (he expected very big from the dasa died at 64 years in jupiter saturn) so members pls do not worry about neecha planets and deo not expect much from exalted planets as told in dictums most of cancer lagna people well off in saturn dasa as its starts are in 1, 5, 9 from lagna and suffer in mars dasa as its stars are in 4, 8 12 th houses from cancer lagna father had sun deblitated in libra had 38 years of govt. service mother having saturn in 7th house had marriage at 18 years mars in 2nd house for leo lagna every thing ok including raghu in 5th having son together even at 72 years no problem see whether enemy slow moving malefics suqaring them and friendly planets 5,9,3,11 to them neecha is not a big draw back in a horoscope as i see purely personal view each one may have their own experience and views thank y all with kind and warm regards SAIRAMAN 18 TH DEC 2007 6 34 AM we have to take a wholeview ofthe things in a hors. sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: Hare ramakrishna , dear group and respected memebers . Generaly says a neecha planets gives bad results in its dasa and its karakatwa results and even rasi results .So mercury debilated may giv learning or speaking or expressing ideas problems and as 9th lord if debilated it can deny the comfort of father .Some says if planets are debilated and attains neecha bhanga (cancellation of debility ) then it will first giv bad results and then after struggles and grinding it gives good status and position. I would like to discuss the effects of neechagrahas (debilated ) and various raja yogas it can giv while being planet in neecha . It says planets positioned in dustana if debilated give rise to raja yogas . also when a planet obtains the cancellation of nechatwa ,its known as neecha bhanga raja yogas . Also if planet is neecha in rasi and ucha in navamsa hence attained neechabhanga . Now any body can post their charts who has any significant event during the dasas of these planets with chart details .Pls make sure that the dasa is over and we know all results for sure . I request every body to stay away from posting for a reading if the said planets dasa is yet to start or is in own or kids charts for knowing the results . Here we r studying the results with known events ,so pls post charts with events of ur or known frnds or realtives . pls post as many as charts with known events to verify the qulaity of this dasa and planets .But pls stick to the tread by posting relevent charts at right time of discussion .If u post like 7 charts at a time may be we cannot follow the discussion in proper way . i request sreenivasji to initiate the discussion and then all respected memebers can contribute . regrds sunil nair , om shreem mahalaxmai namah. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Dear Sairamanji, As usual you have shared so much of good data from your experiences - excellent. It is a valuable piece of information. In my private emails to few members, I have communicated that exalted planets indicate strengths of the native rather than Exalted " profiles " !! I have some good collection of exalted planets hororscopes in all of them they are living very ordinary lifes, but their confidence levels are extremely good, would rebound - resilence - retorts are instantaneous. I took the cue of Lord Ram, living in Jungles / Forest inspite of a exalted combinations. I would communicate separately with you offline to get little more specific details on the shared information {refer your original email below}, so that privacy is maintained, later would post the summary in the group for everyones benefit. { Hope you do not mind it- for my queries would specific to the karatatwa of the debilitated planet} Thanks again for giving your inputs with regards, Sreeram_Srinivas , sairam nat <sairaman53 wrote: GOOD MORNING ALLC MEMBERS regarding neecha gragha it seems to give good results generally whether cancellation ornot i have seen most of people with venus , mars , saturn deblitated are well off in life in every sense wife having mercury neecha 10 3 1959 saturn star cancer lagna cleared mercury dasa in meena with good job marriage job et etc nothingshort father had venusdebitated in virgo with mithuna lagna 15 11 1924 had venus dasa financially welloff goodhouse etc etc i am having mars deblitated 7th lord for rishabha lagna 31 7 1953 having everything in life goodwife marriewd for 22 year no breaks good job children parents house everything mars has not denied anything (except no blood brothersand sisters) ofcourse good lot of nice cousins How3ever i have seen many friends relatives having ucha planets suffering lot in every sense 11 5 1967 c ancer lagna moon str moon , jupiter sun exalgted now running jupiter period not able to earn nojob no marriage no house father left mother very early (not died) good person not able to earn even 2000 pm could not find any reason for such failures in life himself an astrologer profesional with very min. income another relative had jupiter in lagna had his dasa struggled and died in the dasa itself (19 10 1919 ) cancer lagna (he expected very big from the dasa died at 64 years in jupiter saturn) so members pls do not worry about neecha planets and deo not expect much from exalted planets as told in dictums most of cancer lagna people well off in saturn dasa as its starts are in 1, 5, 9 from lagna and suffer in mars dasa as its stars are in 4, 8 12 th houses from cancer lagna father had sun deblitated in libra had 38 years of govt. service mother having saturn in 7th house had marriage at 18 years mars in 2nd house for leo lagna every thing ok including raghu in 5th having son together even at 72 years no problem see whether enemy slow moving malefics suqaring them and friendly planets 5,9,3,11 to them neecha is not a big draw back in a horoscope as i see purely personal view each one may have their own experience and views thank y all with kind and warm regards SAIRAMAN 18 TH DEC 2007 6 34 AM we have to take a wholeview ofthe things in a hors. sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote: Hare ramakrishna , dear group and respected memebers . Generaly says a neecha planets gives bad results in its dasa and its karakatwa results and even rasi results .So mercury debilated may giv learning or speaking or expressing ideas problems and as 9th lord if debilated it can deny the comfort of father .Some says if planets are debilated and attains neecha bhanga (cancellation of debility ) then it will first giv bad results and then after struggles and grinding it gives good status and position. I would like to discuss the effects of neechagrahas (debilated ) and various raja yogas it can giv while being planet in neecha . It says planets positioned in dustana if debilated give rise to raja yogas . also when a planet obtains the cancellation of nechatwa ,its known as neecha bhanga raja yogas . Also if planet is neecha in rasi and ucha in navamsa hence attained neechabhanga . Now any body can post their charts who has any significant event during the dasas of these planets with chart details .Pls make sure that the dasa is over and we know all results for sure . I request every body to stay away from posting for a reading if the said planets dasa is yet to start or is in own or kids charts for knowing the results . Here we r studying the results with known events ,so pls post charts with events of ur or known frnds or realtives . pls post as many as charts with known events to verify the qulaity of this dasa and planets .But pls stick to the tread by posting relevent charts at right time of discussion .If u post like 7 charts at a time may be we cannot follow the discussion in proper way . i request sreenivasji to initiate the discussion and then all respected memebers can contribute . regrds sunil nair , om shreem mahalaxmai namah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Dear All, All planets in their neecha sthans, aspect their ucha sthans which are 7th. So as lord takes in one hand he gives in another.Lord Rama had maximum number of exalated planets in what is supported to be his horoscope. Yet, he spent a life which we humans may worship but not want to live. It is said that "Time is greatest destroyer" and Sani destroys by holding you still, immobilising you, and creating a bandhan. It therefore plays on your mind and the rest is just natural progress. It can create a very "dark" world for the native. Therefore in tackling it you are taught the very basis of life and we know him as a stern taskmaster and probably the greatest teacher. There is no doubt about that. Thanks & Regards.--- On Tue, 18/12/07, sairam nat <sairaman53 wrote: sairam nat <sairaman53 Re:NEECHA GRAGHA ; SAI 18 12 2007 Date: Tuesday, 18 December, 2007, 6:34 AM GOOD MORNING ALLC MEMBERS regarding neecha gragha it seems to give good results generally whether cancellation ornot i have seen most of people withvenus , mars , saturn deblitated are well off in life in every sense wife having mercury neecha 10 3 1959 saturn star cancer lagna cleared mercury dasa in meena with good job marriage job et etc nothingshort fagther had venusdebitated in virgo with mithuna lagna 15 11 1924 had venus dasa financially welloff goodhouse etc etc i am having mars deblitated 7th lord for rishabha lagna 31 7 1953 having everything in life goodwife marriewd for 22 year no breaks good job children parents house everything mars has not denied anything (except no blood brothersand sisters) ofcourse good lot of nice cousins How3ever i have seen many friends relatives having ucha planets suffering lot in every sense 11 5 1967 c ancer lagna moon str moon , jupiter sun exalgted now running jupiter period not able to earn nojob no marriage no house father left mother very early (not died) good person not able to earn even 2000 pm could not find any reason for such failures in life himself an astrologer profesional with very min. income another relative had jupiter in lagna had his dasa struggled and died in the dasa itself (19 10 1919 ) cancer lagna (he expected very big from the dasa died at 64 years in jupiter saturn) so members pls do not worry about neecha planets and deo not expect much from exalted planets as told in dictums most of cancer lagna people well off in saturn dasa as its starts are in 1, 5, 9 from lagna and suffer in mars dasa as its stars are in 4, 8 12 th houses from cancer lagna father had sun deblitated in libra had 38 years of govt. service mother having saturn in 7th house had marriage at 18 years mars in 2nd house for leo lagna every thing ok including raghu in 5th having son together even at 72 years no problem see whether enemy slow moving malefics suqaring them and friendly planets 5,9,3,11 to them neecha is not a big draw back in a horoscope as i see purely personal view each one may have their own experience and views thank y all with kind and warm regards SAIRAMAN 18 TH DEC 2007 6 34 AM we have to take a wholeview ofthe things in a hors. sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote: Hare ramakrishna , dear group and respected memebers . Generaly says a neecha planets gives bad results in its dasa and its karakatwa results and even rasi results .So mercury debilated may giv learning or speaking or expressing ideas problems and as 9th lord if debilated it can deny the comfort of father .Some says if planets are debilated and attains neecha bhanga (cancellation of debility ) then it will first giv bad results and then after struggles and grinding it gives good status and position. I would like to discuss the effects of neechagrahas (debilated ) and various raja yogas it can giv while being planet in neecha . It says planets positioned in dustana if debilated give rise to raja yogas . also when a planet obtains the cancellation of nechatwa ,its known as neecha bhanga raja yogas . Also if planet is neecha in rasi and ucha in navamsa hence attained neechabhanga . Now any body can post their charts who has any significant event during the dasas of these planets with chart details .Pls make sure that the dasa is over and we know all results for sure . I request every body to stay away from posting for a reading if the said planets dasa is yet to start or is in own or kids charts for knowing the results . Here we r studying the results with known events ,so pls post charts with events of ur or known frnds or realtives .. pls post as many as charts with known events to verify the qulaity of this dasa and planets .But pls stick to the tread by posting relevent charts at right time of discussion .If u post like 7 charts at a time may be we cannot follow the discussion in proper way . i request sreenivasji to initiate the discussion and then all respected memebers can contribute . regrds sunil nair , om shreem mahalaxmai namah. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Explore your hobbies and interests. 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Guest guest Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Thanks sir for yr communcation and response with regards Sairamansreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote: Dear Sairamanji, As usual you have shared so much of good data from your experiences - excellent. It is a valuable piece of information. In my private emails to few members, I have communicated that exalted planets indicate strengths of the native rather than Exalted "profiles" !! I have some good collection of exalted planets hororscopes in all of them they are living very ordinary lifes, but their confidence levels are extremely good, would rebound - resilence - retorts are instantaneous. I took the cue of Lord Ram, living in Jungles / Forest inspite of a exalted combinations. I would communicate separately with you offline to get little more specific details on the shared information {refer your original email below}, so that privacy is maintained, later would post the summary in the group for everyones benefit. { Hope you do not mind it- for my queries would specific to the karatatwa of the debilitated planet} Thanks again for giving your inputs with regards, Sreeram_Srinivas , sairam nat <sairaman53 wrote: GOOD MORNING ALLC MEMBERS regarding neecha gragha it seems to give good results generally whether cancellation ornot i have seen most of people with venus , mars , saturn deblitated are well off in life in every sense wife having mercury neecha 10 3 1959 saturn star cancer lagna cleared mercury dasa in meena with good job marriage job et etc nothingshort father had venusdebitated in virgo with mithuna lagna 15 11 1924 had venus dasa financially welloff goodhouse etc etc i am having mars deblitated 7th lord for rishabha lagna 31 7 1953 having everything in life goodwife marriewd for 22 year no breaks good job children parents house everything mars has not denied anything (except no blood brothersand sisters) ofcourse good lot of nice cousins How3ever i have seen many friends relatives having ucha planets suffering lot in every sense 11 5 1967 c ancer lagna moon str moon , jupiter sun exalgted now running jupiter period not able to earn nojob no marriage no house father left mother very early (not died) good person not able to earn even 2000 pm could not find any reason for such failures in life himself an astrologer profesional with very min. income another relative had jupiter in lagna had his dasa struggled and died in the dasa itself (19 10 1919 ) cancer lagna (he expected very big from the dasa died at 64 years in jupiter saturn) so members pls do not worry about neecha planets and deo not expect much from exalted planets as told in dictums most of cancer lagna people well off in saturn dasa as its starts are in 1, 5, 9 from lagna and suffer in mars dasa as its stars are in 4, 8 12 th houses from cancer lagna father had sun deblitated in libra had 38 years of govt. service mother having saturn in 7th house had marriage at 18 years mars in 2nd house for leo lagna every thing ok including raghu in 5th having son together even at 72 years no problem see whether enemy slow moving malefics suqaring them and friendly planets 5,9,3,11 to them neecha is not a big draw back in a horoscope as i see purely personal view each one may have their own experience and views thank y all with kind and warm regards SAIRAMAN 18 TH DEC 2007 6 34 AM we have to take a wholeview ofthe things in a hors. sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote: Hare ramakrishna , dear group and respected memebers . Generaly says a neecha planets gives bad results in its dasa and its karakatwa results and even rasi results .So mercury debilated may giv learning or speaking or expressing ideas problems and as 9th lord if debilated it can deny the comfort of father .Some says if planets are debilated and attains neecha bhanga (cancellation of debility ) then it will first giv bad results and then after struggles and grinding it gives good status and position. I would like to discuss the effects of neechagrahas (debilated ) and various raja yogas it can giv while being planet in neecha . It says planets positioned in dustana if debilated give rise to raja yogas . also when a planet obtains the cancellation of nechatwa ,its known as neecha bhanga raja yogas . Also if planet is neecha in rasi and ucha in navamsa hence attained neechabhanga . Now any body can post their charts who has any significant event during the dasas of these planets with chart details .Pls make sure that the dasa is over and we know all results for sure . I request every body to stay away from posting for a reading if the said planets dasa is yet to start or is in own or kids charts for knowing the results . Here we r studying the results with known events ,so pls post charts with events of ur or known frnds or realtives . pls post as many as charts with known events to verify the qulaity of this dasa and planets .But pls stick to the tread by posting relevent charts at right time of discussion .If u post like 7 charts at a time may be we cannot follow the discussion in proper way . i request sreenivasji to initiate the discussion and then all respected memebers can contribute . regrds sunil nair , om shreem mahalaxmai namah. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Hare ramakrishna, dear sairam ji . Thanks for the mail .But if possible can u share us the birth data of persons .Or sreenivas ji is asking for his study and u can provide him also . In ur case i find mars tho debilated its in a dustana ,also 12th lord in 3rd house .Generaly dustana s r 3/6/8/12 . but ur 7th lord debilated in 3rd house .So what effect was showing ,may be a wife from a humble family .if cancellation of debilation is there then may be their family come up after the birth of ur wife . i am just trying to formulate some thing ,so pls dont mind if i am going too much personal . also can u see this debilated lords is any way in exaltation sign in navamsa . thanks and regrds sunil nair . om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , sairam nat <sairaman53 wrote:>> GOOD MORNING ALLC MEMBERS> > regarding neecha gragha it seems to give good results generally whether cancellation ornot > > i have seen most of people withvenus , mars , saturn deblitated are well off in life in every sense > > wife having mercury neecha 10 3 1959 saturn star cancer lagna cleared mercury dasa in meena with good job marriage job et etc nothingshort > > fagther had venusdebitated in virgo with mithuna lagna 15 11 1924 had venus dasa financially welloff goodhouse etc etc > > i am having mars deblitated 7th lord for rishabha lagna 31 7 1953 having everything in life goodwife marriewd for 22 year no breaks good job children parents house everything mars has not denied anything (except no blood brothersand sisters) ofcourse good lot of nice cousins > > How3ever i have seen many friends relatives having ucha planets suffering lot in every sense 11 5 1967 c ancer lagna moon str moon , jupiter sun exalgted now running jupiter period not able to earn nojob no marriage no house father left mother very early (not died) good person not able to earn even 2000 pm could not find any reason for such failures in life himself an astrologer profesional with very min. income > > another relative had jupiter in lagna had his dasa struggled and died in the dasa itself (19 10 1919 ) cancer lagna (he expected very big from the dasa died at 64 years in jupiter saturn)> > so members pls do not worry about neecha planets and deo not expect much from exalted planets as told in dictums > > most of cancer lagna people well off in saturn dasa as its starts are in 1, 5, 9 from lagna and suffer in mars dasa as its stars are in 4, 8 12 th houses from cancer lagna > > father had sun deblitated in libra had 38 years of govt. service > > mother having saturn in 7th house had marriage at 18 years mars in 2nd house for leo lagna every thing ok including raghu in 5th having son together even at 72 years no problem > > see whether enemy slow moving malefics suqaring them and friendly planets 5,9,3,11 to them > > neecha is not a big draw back in a horoscope as i see purely personal view each one may have their own experience and views > > > thank y all with kind and warm regards > > > > > > SAIRAMAN 18 TH DEC 2007 6 34 AM> > we have to take a wholeview ofthe things in a hors. > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > Hare ramakrishna ,> dear group and respected memebers .> > Generaly says a neecha planets gives bad results in its dasa and its karakatwa results and even rasi results .So mercury debilated may giv learning or speaking or expressing ideas problems and as 9th lord if debilated it can deny the comfort of father .Some says if planets are debilated and attains neecha bhanga (cancellation of debility ) then it will first giv bad results and then after struggles and grinding it gives good status and position.> > I would like to discuss the effects of neechagrahas (debilated ) and various raja yogas it can giv while being planet in neecha .> It says planets positioned in dustana if debilated give rise to raja yogas .> > also when a planet obtains the cancellation of nechatwa ,its known as neecha bhanga raja yogas .> Also if planet is neecha in rasi and ucha in navamsa hence attained neechabhanga .> > Now any body can post their charts who has any significant event during the dasas of these planets with chart details .Pls make sure that the dasa is over and we know all results for sure .> I request every body to stay away from posting for a reading if the said planets dasa is yet to start or is in own or kids charts for knowing the results .> > Here we r studying the results with known events ,so pls post charts with events of ur or known frnds or realtives .> pls post as many as charts with known events to verify the qulaity of this dasa and planets .But pls stick to the tread by posting relevent charts at right time of discussion .If u post like 7 charts at a time may be we cannot follow the discussion in proper way .> i request sreenivasji to initiate the discussion and then all respected memebers can contribute .> > > regrds sunil nair ,> om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. 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Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 While looking for exalted planet in Horoscope, please look for any other planet stand exalted. There is a say in Malayalam 'Uchane, Uchan Nokkiyal Picha thendum' If exalted, aspects another exalted there is misery indicated. Some astrologers miscalculated this theory and landed in trouble. If there are two planets exalted and it aspects each other, there will be ego clash between them and the native will become begger (instead of Tendulkar) Regards Hari , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64 wrote: > > > Dear Sairamanji, > > As usual you have shared so much of good data from your experiences - > excellent. It is a valuable piece of information. > > In my private emails to few members, I have communicated that exalted > planets indicate strengths of the native rather than Exalted " profiles " > !! I have some good collection of exalted planets hororscopes in all of > them they are living very ordinary lifes, but their confidence levels > are extremely good, would rebound - resilence - retorts are > instantaneous. I took the cue of Lord Ram, living in Jungles / Forest > inspite of a exalted combinations. > > I would communicate separately with you offline to get little more > specific details on the shared information {refer your original email > below}, so that privacy is maintained, later would post the summary in > the group for everyones benefit. { Hope you do not mind it- for my > queries would specific to the karatatwa of the debilitated planet} > > Thanks again for giving your inputs > > with regards, > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > , sairam nat > <sairaman53@> wrote: > > GOOD MORNING ALLC MEMBERS > > regarding neecha gragha it seems to give good results generally whether > cancellation ornot > > i have seen most of people with venus , mars , saturn deblitated are > well off in life in every sense > > wife having mercury neecha 10 3 1959 saturn star cancer lagna cleared > mercury dasa in meena with good job marriage job et etc nothingshort > > father had venusdebitated in virgo with mithuna lagna 15 11 1924 had > venus dasa financially welloff goodhouse etc etc > > i am having mars deblitated 7th lord for rishabha lagna 31 7 1953 having > everything in life goodwife marriewd for 22 year no breaks good job > children parents house everything mars has not denied anything (except > no blood brothersand sisters) ofcourse good lot of nice cousins > > How3ever i have seen many friends relatives having ucha planets > suffering lot in every sense 11 5 1967 c ancer lagna moon str moon , > jupiter sun exalgted now running jupiter period not able to earn nojob > no marriage no house father left mother very early (not died) good > person not able to earn even 2000 pm could not find any reason for such > failures in life himself an astrologer profesional with very min. income > > another relative had jupiter in lagna had his dasa struggled and died in > the dasa itself (19 10 1919 ) cancer lagna (he expected very big from > the dasa died at 64 years in jupiter saturn) > > so members pls do not worry about neecha planets and deo not expect much > from exalted planets as told in dictums > > most of cancer lagna people well off in saturn dasa as its starts are in > 1, 5, 9 from lagna and suffer in mars dasa as its stars are in 4, 8 12 > th houses from cancer lagna > > father had sun deblitated in libra had 38 years of govt. service > > mother having saturn in 7th house had marriage at 18 years mars in 2nd > house for leo lagna every thing ok including raghu in 5th having son > together even at 72 years no problem > > see whether enemy slow moving malefics suqaring them and friendly > planets 5,9,3,11 to them > > neecha is not a big draw back in a horoscope as i see purely personal > view each one may have their own experience and views > > > thank y all with kind and warm regards > > SAIRAMAN 18 TH DEC 2007 6 34 AM > > we have to take a wholeview ofthe things in a hors. > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > Hare ramakrishna , > dear group and respected memebers . > > Generaly says a neecha planets gives bad results in its dasa and its > karakatwa results and even rasi results .So mercury debilated may giv > learning or speaking or expressing ideas problems and as 9th lord if > debilated it can deny the comfort of father .Some says if planets are > debilated and attains neecha bhanga (cancellation of debility ) then it > will first giv bad results and then after struggles and grinding it > gives good status and position. > > I would like to discuss the effects of neechagrahas (debilated ) and > various raja yogas it can giv while being planet in neecha . > It says planets positioned in dustana if debilated give rise to raja > yogas . > > also when a planet obtains the cancellation of nechatwa ,its known as > neecha bhanga raja yogas . > Also if planet is neecha in rasi and ucha in navamsa hence attained > neechabhanga . > > Now any body can post their charts who has any significant event during > the dasas of these planets with chart details .Pls make sure that the > dasa is over and we know all results for sure . > I request every body to stay away from posting for a reading if the > said planets dasa is yet to start or is in own or kids charts for > knowing the results . > > Here we r studying the results with known events ,so pls post charts > with events of ur or known frnds or realtives . > pls post as many as charts with known events to verify the qulaity of > this dasa and planets .But pls stick to the tread by posting relevent > charts at right time of discussion .If u post like 7 charts at a time > may be we cannot follow the discussion in proper way . > i request sreenivasji to initiate the discussion and then all respected > memebers can contribute . > > > regrds sunil nair , > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Dear Hari, You are right. It cannot be said to be like ego clash, what happens is that each aspecting planet passes it qualities to the other resulting in toned down effect. Technically this can happen between Sun & Saturn both exaltation & debilitation. Venus & Mercury. Jupiter & Mars. However, the toned down effect may not be in all cases, say Venus & Mercury combination improves the quality, similarly Jupiter & Mars. I do not exact cases on above, however, you may like to test this Male, 05-April-1968, 20:15 hrs, Calcutta. Libra Lagna, Sun, Saturn, Venus, Mercury, Venus, Rahu all in 6H, Mars in 7H, 9H-Moon, 11H-Retrograde Jupiter, 12H-Ketu. Female, 24-Jan-1974, 06:30 hrs, New Delhi, Sagittarius Lagna with Rahu, Moon, Jupiter, Mercury, Venus®, Sun all in 2H, 5H-Mars, 7H-Saturn® & Ketu. The above are married to each other, love marriage. With regards, sreeram_srinivas , "hashmi963" <hashmi963 wrote: While looking for exalted planet in Horoscope, please look for any other planet stand exalted. There is a say in Malayalam 'Uchane, Uchan Nokkiyal Picha thendum' If exalted, aspects another exalted there is misery indicated. Some astrologers miscalculated this theory and landed in trouble. If there are two planets exalted and it aspects each other, there will be ego clash between them and the native will become begger (instead of Tendulkar) RegardsHari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 sairaman good evening all members 20 12 07 6 53 pmwith regard to the exalted planets i recollect one lectrue by one old 80 years experienced person said a different rule very unusual where from he got i do not know (lecture long time beck) " if any planet very powerful in 10th house of another planet it is called PARASPARA KARAGHATHVAM MAKING THE FIRST PLANET UNABLE TO WORK EG: JUPITER EXALTED IN CANCER AND IN TH TO IT SUN EXALTED MAKING JUPITER DEFUNC IN ITS DASA The same is the condition to one of my friend 11 5 1967 cancer lagna jupiter and mars in virgo 3rd house saturn in 9th house and sun raghu mercury in 10th moon in 11th taurus and venus in 12th in mithuna This gentle man best computer man astrologer father left mother early broght up by uncle two sisters unmarried mother low income teacher he is not married no good job and income regular strruggling in life in spite of 3 planets exalted could not find a justified convincing reason very nice persons no habits religious good astrologer computer knowledge doing professional astrology work getting very very low income very pathetic situation when people with very ordinary hos. getting good income and high standard of living now running jupiter dasa with venus bukthi usually the ten house houls not be strong with many planets as it is karma sthana in natural zodiac in 10th house makara mars the lagna and 8th lord is exalted 10th is 8th house of 3rd house the efforts and action of self is obstructed by powerful 10th house planets mars,sun in ten digbala however father is likely to die early ages as it is 2nd of 9th In general any powerful malefics slow moving 8th house of another house gives much trouble to that bhava One of my friend mithuna lagna having sun mercury mars in 10th in meena rasi very well off in aforeign country however his younger brother at early age died in a accident in a lake in a foreign country with regards sairaman hashmi963 <hashmi963 wrote: While looking for exalted planet in Horoscope, please look for any other planet stand exalted. There is a say in Malayalam 'Uchane, Uchan Nokkiyal Picha thendum' If exalted, aspects another exalted there is misery indicated. Some astrologers miscalculated this theory and landed in trouble. If there are two planets exalted and it aspects each other, there will be ego clash between them and the native will become begger (instead of Tendulkar) Regards Hari , "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote: > > > Dear Sairamanji, > > As usual you have shared so much of good data from your experiences - > excellent. It is a valuable piece of information. > > In my private emails to few members, I have communicated that exalted > planets indicate strengths of the native rather than Exalted "profiles" > !! I have some good collection of exalted planets hororscopes in all of > them they are living very ordinary lifes, but their confidence levels > are extremely good, would rebound - resilence - retorts are > instantaneous. I took the cue of Lord Ram, living in Jungles / Forest > inspite of a exalted combinations. > > I would communicate separately with you offline to get little more > specific details on the shared information {refer your original email > below}, so that privacy is maintained, later would post the summary in > the group for everyones benefit. { Hope you do not mind it- for my > queries would specific to the karatatwa of the debilitated planet} > > Thanks again for giving your inputs > > with regards, > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > , sairam nat > <sairaman53@> wrote: > > GOOD MORNING ALLC MEMBERS > > regarding neecha gragha it seems to give good results generally whether > cancellation ornot > > i have seen most of people with venus , mars , saturn deblitated are > well off in life in every sense > > wife having mercury neecha 10 3 1959 saturn star cancer lagna cleared > mercury dasa in meena with good job marriage job et etc nothingshort > > father had venusdebitated in virgo with mithuna lagna 15 11 1924 had > venus dasa financially welloff goodhouse etc etc > > i am having mars deblitated 7th lord for rishabha lagna 31 7 1953 having > everything in life goodwife marriewd for 22 year no breaks good job > children parents house everything mars has not denied anything (except > no blood brothersand sisters) ofcourse good lot of nice cousins > > How3ever i have seen many friends relatives having ucha planets > suffering lot in every sense 11 5 1967 c ancer lagna moon str moon , > jupiter sun exalgted now running jupiter period not able to earn nojob > no marriage no house father left mother very early (not died) good > person not able to earn even 2000 pm could not find any reason for such > failures in life himself an astrologer profesional with very min. income > > another relative had jupiter in lagna had his dasa struggled and died in > the dasa itself (19 10 1919 ) cancer lagna (he expected very big from > the dasa died at 64 years in jupiter saturn) > > so members pls do not worry about neecha planets and deo not expect much > from exalted planets as told in dictums > > most of cancer lagna people well off in saturn dasa as its starts are in > 1, 5, 9 from lagna and suffer in mars dasa as its stars are in 4, 8 12 > th houses from cancer lagna > > father had sun deblitated in libra had 38 years of govt. service > > mother having saturn in 7th house had marriage at 18 years mars in 2nd > house for leo lagna every thing ok including raghu in 5th having son > together even at 72 years no problem > > see whether enemy slow moving malefics suqaring them and friendly > planets 5,9,3,11 to them > > neecha is not a big draw back in a horoscope as i see purely personal > view each one may have their own experience and views > > > thank y all with kind and warm regards > > SAIRAMAN 18 TH DEC 2007 6 34 AM > > we have to take a wholeview ofthe things in a hors. > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > Hare ramakrishna , > dear group and respected memebers . > > Generaly says a neecha planets gives bad results in its dasa and its > karakatwa results and even rasi results .So mercury debilated may giv > learning or speaking or expressing ideas problems and as 9th lord if > debilated it can deny the comfort of father .Some says if planets are > debilated and attains neecha bhanga (cancellation of debility ) then it > will first giv bad results and then after struggles and grinding it > gives good status and position. > > I would like to discuss the effects of neechagrahas (debilated ) and > various raja yogas it can giv while being planet in neecha .. > It says planets positioned in dustana if debilated give rise to raja > yogas . > > also when a planet obtains the cancellation of nechatwa ,its known as > neecha bhanga raja yogas . > Also if planet is neecha in rasi and ucha in navamsa hence attained > neechabhanga . > > Now any body can post their charts who has any significant event during > the dasas of these planets with chart details .Pls make sure that the > dasa is over and we know all results for sure . > I request every body to stay away from posting for a reading if the > said planets dasa is yet to start or is in own or kids charts for > knowing the results . > > Here we r studying the results with known events ,so pls post charts > with events of ur or known frnds or realtives . > pls post as many as charts with known events to verify the qulaity of > this dasa and planets .But pls stick to the tread by posting relevent > charts at right time of discussion .If u post like 7 charts at a time > may be we cannot follow the discussion in proper way . > i request sreenivasji to initiate the discussion and then all respected > memebers can contribute . > > > regrds sunil nair , > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. 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Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Thank you Mr. Sairamanji......for sharing those small gems of your knowledgebase....... with regards, sreeram_srinivas , sairam nat <sairaman53 wrote: sairaman good evening all members 20 12 07 6 53 pm with regard to the exalted planets i recollect one lectrue by one old 80 years experienced person said a different rule very unusual where from he got i do not know (lecture long time beck) " if any planet very powerful in 10th house of another planet it is called PARASPARA KARAGHATHVAM MAKING THE FIRST PLANET UNABLE TO WORK EG: JUPITER EXALTED IN CANCER AND IN TH TO IT SUN EXALTED MAKING JUPITER DEFUNC IN ITS DASA The same is the condition to one of my friend 11 5 1967 cancer lagna jupiter and mars in virgo rd house saturn in 9th house and sun raghu mercury in 10th moon in 11th taurus and venus in 12th in mithuna This gentle man best computer man astrologer father left mother early broght up by uncle two sisters unmarried mother low income teacher he is not married no good job and income regular strruggling in life in spite of 3 planets exalted could not find a justified convincing reason very nice persons no habits religious good astrologer computer knowledge doing professional astrology work getting very very low income very pathetic situation when people with very ordinary hos. getting good income and high standard of living now running jupiter dasa with venus bukthi usually the ten house houls not be strong with many planets as it is karma sthana in natural zodiac in 10th house makara mars the lagna and 8th lord is exalted 10th is 8th house of 3rd house the efforts and action of self is obstructed by powerful 10th house planets mars,sun in ten digbala however father is likely to die early ages as it is 2nd of 9th In general any powerful malefics slow moving 8th house of another house gives much trouble to that bhava One of my friend mithuna lagna having sun mercury mars in 10th in meena rasi very well off in aforeign country however his younger brother at early age died in a accident in a lake in a foreign country with regards sairaman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Dear Hari, These are wise words. As per KAS we also say that a chart with more exalted planets spoil the status of a chart. A chart with many exalted, in MT or own house planets and with more than 4 bindus spoilt the chart and its status. It is better to have a chart with many planets in neecha rasi and with less than 4 bindus. A person with many exalted planets (like Lord Ram’s chart) might get things, but at very great sacrifice. Might have to struggle though life. I think it was in this list, I had recently seen someone post a chart with 4-5 planets in unccha sthan or MT but he was facing a separation in marriage and his career was not established as well, and was facing overall problems. Ju, Ma and Sa has 3 aspects each so they will be good for 1 house but they will spoil 3 other house by their very malefic aspects. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of hashmi963 Thursday December 20, 2007 6:26 AM Subject: Re:NEECHA GRAGHA ; SAI 18 12 2007 While looking for exalted planet in Horoscope, please look for any other planet stand exalted. There is a say in Malayalam 'Uchane, Uchan Nokkiyal Picha thendum' If exalted, aspects another exalted there is misery indicated. Some astrologers miscalculated this theory and landed in trouble. If there are two planets exalted and it aspects each other, there will be ego clash between them and the native will become begger (instead of Tendulkar) Regards Hari , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64 wrote: > > > Dear Sairamanji, > > As usual you have shared so much of good data from your experiences - > excellent. It is a valuable piece of information. > > In my private emails to few members, I have communicated that exalted > planets indicate strengths of the native rather than Exalted " profiles " > !! I have some good collection of exalted planets hororscopes in all of > them they are living very ordinary lifes, but their confidence levels > are extremely good, would rebound - resilence - retorts are > instantaneous. I took the cue of Lord Ram, living in Jungles / Forest > inspite of a exalted combinations. > > I would communicate separately with you offline to get little more > specific details on the shared information {refer your original email > below}, so that privacy is maintained, later would post the summary in > the group for everyones benefit. { Hope you do not mind it- for my > queries would specific to the karatatwa of the debilitated planet} > > Thanks again for giving your inputs > > with regards, > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > , sairam nat > <sairaman53@> wrote: > > GOOD MORNING ALLC MEMBERS > > regarding neecha gragha it seems to give good results generally whether > cancellation ornot > > i have seen most of people with venus , mars , saturn deblitated are > well off in life in every sense > > wife having mercury neecha 10 3 1959 saturn star cancer lagna cleared > mercury dasa in meena with good job marriage job et etc nothingshort > > father had venusdebitated in virgo with mithuna lagna 15 11 1924 had > venus dasa financially welloff goodhouse etc etc > > i am having mars deblitated 7th lord for rishabha lagna 31 7 1953 having > everything in life goodwife marriewd for 22 year no breaks good job > children parents house everything mars has not denied anything (except > no blood brothersand sisters) ofcourse good lot of nice cousins > > How3ever i have seen many friends relatives having ucha planets > suffering lot in every sense 11 5 1967 c ancer lagna moon str moon , > jupiter sun exalgted now running jupiter period not able to earn nojob > no marriage no house father left mother very early (not died) good > person not able to earn even 2000 pm could not find any reason for such > failures in life himself an astrologer profesional with very min. income > > another relative had jupiter in lagna had his dasa struggled and died in > the dasa itself (19 10 1919 ) cancer lagna (he expected very big from > the dasa died at 64 years in jupiter saturn) > > so members pls do not worry about neecha planets and deo not expect much > from exalted planets as told in dictums > > most of cancer lagna people well off in saturn dasa as its starts are in > 1, 5, 9 from lagna and suffer in mars dasa as its stars are in 4, 8 12 > th houses from cancer lagna > > father had sun deblitated in libra had 38 years of govt. service > > mother having saturn in 7th house had marriage at 18 years mars in 2nd > house for leo lagna every thing ok including raghu in 5th having son > together even at 72 years no problem > > see whether enemy slow moving malefics suqaring them and friendly > planets 5,9,3,11 to them > > neecha is not a big draw back in a horoscope as i see purely personal > view each one may have their own experience and views > > > thank y all with kind and warm regards > > SAIRAMAN 18 TH DEC 2007 6 34 AM > > we have to take a wholeview ofthe things in a hors. > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > Hare ramakrishna , > dear group and respected memebers . > > Generaly says a neecha planets gives bad results in its dasa and its > karakatwa results and even rasi results .So mercury debilated may giv > learning or speaking or expressing ideas problems and as 9th lord if > debilated it can deny the comfort of father .Some says if planets are > debilated and attains neecha bhanga (cancellation of debility ) then it > will first giv bad results and then after struggles and grinding it > gives good status and position. > > I would like to discuss the effects of neechagrahas (debilated ) and > various raja yogas it can giv while being planet in neecha . > It says planets positioned in dustana if debilated give rise to raja > yogas . > > also when a planet obtains the cancellation of nechatwa ,its known as > neecha bhanga raja yogas . > Also if planet is neecha in rasi and ucha in navamsa hence attained > neechabhanga . > > Now any body can post their charts who has any significant event during > the dasas of these planets with chart details .Pls make sure that the > dasa is over and we know all results for sure . > I request every body to stay away from posting for a reading if the > said planets dasa is yet to start or is in own or kids charts for > knowing the results . > > Here we r studying the results with known events ,so pls post charts > with events of ur or known frnds or realtives . > pls post as many as charts with known events to verify the qulaity of > this dasa and planets .But pls stick to the tread by posting relevent > charts at right time of discussion .If u post like 7 charts at a time > may be we cannot follow the discussion in proper way . > i request sreenivasji to initiate the discussion and then all respected > memebers can contribute . > > > regrds sunil nair , > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Dear Hari, What you are saying could be quite correct. Recently, while analysing a blind chart which had Jupiter and Mars exalted and aspecting each other, I rated the person very high. It was a total flop for me. Later, I came to know that it is a chart of a famous convict who was convicted for abusing his wife in the US. Some people term this combination as 'Ucchabhanga'. But, we also have such a combination in Shri Rama's chart ... Regards, Krishnahashmi963 <hashmi963 wrote: While looking for exalted planet in Horoscope, please look for any other planet stand exalted. There is a say in Malayalam'Uchane, Uchan Nokkiyal Picha thendum'If exalted, aspects another exalted there is misery indicated.Some astrologers miscalculated this theory and landed in trouble.If there are two planets exalted and it aspects each other, there will be ego clash between them and the native will become begger(instead of Tendulkar)RegardsHari , "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote:>> > Dear Sairamanji,> > As usual you have shared so much of good data from your experiences -> excellent. It is a valuable piece of information.> > In my private emails to few members, I have communicated that exalted> planets indicate strengths of the native rather than Exalted "profiles"> !! I have some good collection of exalted planets hororscopes in all of> them they are living very ordinary lifes, but their confidence levels> are extremely good, would rebound - resilence - retorts are> instantaneous. I took the cue of Lord Ram, living in Jungles / Forest> inspite of a exalted combinations.> > I would communicate separately with you offline to get little more> specific details on the shared information {refer your original email> below}, so that privacy is maintained, later would post the summary in> the group for everyones benefit. { Hope you do not mind it- for my> queries would specific to the karatatwa of the debilitated planet}> > Thanks again for giving your inputs> > with regards,> > Sreeram_Srinivas> > > , sairam nat> <sairaman53@> wrote:> > GOOD MORNING ALLC MEMBERS> > regarding neecha gragha it seems to give good results generally whether> cancellation ornot> > i have seen most of people with venus , mars , saturn deblitated are> well off in life in every sense> > wife having mercury neecha 10 3 1959 saturn star cancer lagna cleared> mercury dasa in meena with good job marriage job et etc nothingshort> > father had venusdebitated in virgo with mithuna lagna 15 11 1924 had> venus dasa financially welloff goodhouse etc etc> > i am having mars deblitated 7th lord for rishabha lagna 31 7 1953 having> everything in life goodwife marriewd for 22 year no breaks good job> children parents house everything mars has not denied anything (except> no blood brothersand sisters) ofcourse good lot of nice cousins> > How3ever i have seen many friends relatives having ucha planets> suffering lot in every sense 11 5 1967 c ancer lagna moon str moon ,> jupiter sun exalgted now running jupiter period not able to earn nojob> no marriage no house father left mother very early (not died) good> person not able to earn even 2000 pm could not find any reason for such> failures in life himself an astrologer profesional with very min. income> > another relative had jupiter in lagna had his dasa struggled and died in> the dasa itself (19 10 1919 ) cancer lagna (he expected very big from> the dasa died at 64 years in jupiter saturn)> > so members pls do not worry about neecha planets and deo not expect much> from exalted planets as told in dictums> > most of cancer lagna people well off in saturn dasa as its starts are in> 1, 5, 9 from lagna and suffer in mars dasa as its stars are in 4, 8 12> th houses from cancer lagna> > father had sun deblitated in libra had 38 years of govt. service> > mother having saturn in 7th house had marriage at 18 years mars in 2nd> house for leo lagna every thing ok including raghu in 5th having son> together even at 72 years no problem> > see whether enemy slow moving malefics suqaring them and friendly> planets 5,9,3,11 to them> > neecha is not a big draw back in a horoscope as i see purely personal> view each one may have their own experience and views> > > thank y all with kind and warm regards> > SAIRAMAN 18 TH DEC 2007 6 34 AM> > we have to take a wholeview ofthe things in a hors.> > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > Hare ramakrishna ,> dear group and respected memebers .> > Generaly says a neecha planets gives bad results in its dasa and its> karakatwa results and even rasi results .So mercury debilated may giv> learning or speaking or expressing ideas problems and as 9th lord if> debilated it can deny the comfort of father .Some says if planets are> debilated and attains neecha bhanga (cancellation of debility ) then it> will first giv bad results and then after struggles and grinding it> gives good status and position.> > I would like to discuss the effects of neechagrahas (debilated ) and> various raja yogas it can giv while being planet in neecha .> It says planets positioned in dustana if debilated give rise to raja> yogas .> > also when a planet obtains the cancellation of nechatwa ,its known as> neecha bhanga raja yogas .> Also if planet is neecha in rasi and ucha in navamsa hence attained> neechabhanga .> > Now any body can post their charts who has any significant event during> the dasas of these planets with chart details .Pls make sure that the> dasa is over and we know all results for sure .> I request every body to stay away from posting for a reading if the> said planets dasa is yet to start or is in own or kids charts for> knowing the results .> > Here we r studying the results with known events ,so pls post charts> with events of ur or known frnds or realtives .> pls post as many as charts with known events to verify the qulaity of> this dasa and planets .But pls stick to the tread by posting relevent> charts at right time of discussion .If u post like 7 charts at a time> may be we cannot follow the discussion in proper way .> i request sreenivasji to initiate the discussion and then all respected> memebers can contribute .> > > regrds sunil nair ,> om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. 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Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Om Vishnave Namah : Hello Sairaman Ji and Ash ji , In regard to the example you gave , i in my chart have two planets exalted. ( jupiter and sun ) tenth from each other . Jupiter is in 11th house with 7 points in KAS , and Sun in 8th with 4 points in KAS. I always wondered if there is neechBhanga' , why there is nowhere mentioned about UchaBhanga'. Also i always am unsure as to how do exalted as well as debilitated planets aspect house opposite to it. ...Ashji do u think Jupiter and Sun spoils the houses it aspects ? So do u think in this case it is jupiter who gets defunt in the MD and AD of Jupiter. i had just finished mercury-Jupiter few months back. And i can say i didn't find anything spectacular in my life. Rather it was not hunky dorry at all ! deets Just in case date 15th april 1979 time 18:05place: Jaipur city thanks for your time and space Regards Nirvanika On Dec 20, 2007 7:12 PM, sairam nat <sairaman53 wrote: sairaman good evening all members 20 12 07 6 53 pmwith regard to the exalted planets i recollect one lectrue by one old 80 years experienced person said a different rule very unusual where from he got i do not know (lecture long time beck) " if any planet very powerful in 10th house of another planet it is called PARASPARA KARAGHATHVAM MAKING THE FIRST PLANET UNABLE TO WORK EG: JUPITER EXALTED IN CANCER AND IN TH TO IT SUN EXALTED MAKING JUPITER DEFUNC IN ITS DASA The same is the condition to one of my friend 11 5 1967 cancer lagna jupiter and mars in virgo 3rd house saturn in 9th house and sun raghu mercury in 10th moon in 11th taurus and venus in 12th in mithuna This gentle man best computer man astrologer father left mother early broght up by uncle two sisters unmarried mother low income teacher he is not married no good job and income regular strruggling in life in spite of 3 planets exalted could not find a justified convincing reason very nice persons no habits religious good astrologer computer knowledge doing professional astrology work getting very very low income very pathetic situation when people with very ordinary hos. getting good income and high standard of living now running jupiter dasa with venus bukthi usually the ten house houls not be strong with many planets as it is karma sthana in natural zodiac in 10th house makara mars the lagna and 8th lord is exalted 10th is 8th house of 3rd house the efforts and action of self is obstructed by powerful 10th house planets mars,sun in ten digbala however father is likely to die early ages as it is 2nd of 9th In general any powerful malefics slow moving 8th house of another house gives much trouble to that bhava One of my friend mithuna lagna having sun mercury mars in 10th in meena rasi very well off in aforeign country however his younger brother at early age died in a accident in a lake in a foreign country with regards sairaman hashmi963 <hashmi963 > wrote: While looking for exalted planet in Horoscope, please look for any other planet stand exalted. There is a say in Malayalam 'Uchane, Uchan Nokkiyal Picha thendum' If exalted, aspects another exalted there is misery indicated. Some astrologers miscalculated this theory and landed in trouble. If there are two planets exalted and it aspects each other, there will be ego clash between them and the native will become begger (instead of Tendulkar) Regards Hari , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64 wrote: > > > Dear Sairamanji, > > As usual you have shared so much of good data from your experiences - > excellent. It is a valuable piece of information. > > In my private emails to few members, I have communicated that exalted > planets indicate strengths of the native rather than Exalted " profiles " > !! I have some good collection of exalted planets hororscopes in all of > them they are living very ordinary lifes, but their confidence levels > are extremely good, would rebound - resilence - retorts are > instantaneous. I took the cue of Lord Ram, living in Jungles / Forest > inspite of a exalted combinations. > > I would communicate separately with you offline to get little more > specific details on the shared information {refer your original email > below}, so that privacy is maintained, later would post the summary in > the group for everyones benefit. { Hope you do not mind it- for my > queries would specific to the karatatwa of the debilitated planet} > > Thanks again for giving your inputs > > with regards, > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > , sairam nat > <sairaman53@> wrote: > > GOOD MORNING ALLC MEMBERS > > regarding neecha gragha it seems to give good results generally whether > cancellation ornot > > i have seen most of people with venus , mars , saturn deblitated are > well off in life in every sense > > wife having mercury neecha 10 3 1959 saturn star cancer lagna cleared > mercury dasa in meena with good job marriage job et etc nothingshort > > father had venusdebitated in virgo with mithuna lagna 15 11 1924 had > venus dasa financially welloff goodhouse etc etc > > i am having mars deblitated 7th lord for rishabha lagna 31 7 1953 having > everything in life goodwife marriewd for 22 year no breaks good job > children parents house everything mars has not denied anything (except > no blood brothersand sisters) ofcourse good lot of nice cousins > > How3ever i have seen many friends relatives having ucha planets > suffering lot in every sense 11 5 1967 c ancer lagna moon str moon , > jupiter sun exalgted now running jupiter period not able to earn nojob > no marriage no house father left mother very early (not died) good > person not able to earn even 2000 pm could not find any reason for such > failures in life himself an astrologer profesional with very min. income > > another relative had jupiter in lagna had his dasa struggled and died in > the dasa itself (19 10 1919 ) cancer lagna (he expected very big from > the dasa died at 64 years in jupiter saturn) > > so members pls do not worry about neecha planets and deo not expect much > from exalted planets as told in dictums > > most of cancer lagna people well off in saturn dasa as its starts are in > 1, 5, 9 from lagna and suffer in mars dasa as its stars are in 4, 8 12 > th houses from cancer lagna > > father had sun deblitated in libra had 38 years of govt. service > > mother having saturn in 7th house had marriage at 18 years mars in 2nd > house for leo lagna every thing ok including raghu in 5th having son > together even at 72 years no problem > > see whether enemy slow moving malefics suqaring them and friendly > planets 5,9,3,11 to them > > neecha is not a big draw back in a horoscope as i see purely personal > view each one may have their own experience and views > > > thank y all with kind and warm regards > > SAIRAMAN 18 TH DEC 2007 6 34 AM > > we have to take a wholeview ofthe things in a hors. > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > Hare ramakrishna , > dear group and respected memebers . > > Generaly says a neecha planets gives bad results in its dasa and its > karakatwa results and even rasi results .So mercury debilated may giv > learning or speaking or expressing ideas problems and as 9th lord if > debilated it can deny the comfort of father .Some says if planets are > debilated and attains neecha bhanga (cancellation of debility ) then it > will first giv bad results and then after struggles and grinding it > gives good status and position. > > I would like to discuss the effects of neechagrahas (debilated ) and > various raja yogas it can giv while being planet in neecha .. > It says planets positioned in dustana if debilated give rise to raja > yogas . > > also when a planet obtains the cancellation of nechatwa ,its known as > neecha bhanga raja yogas . > Also if planet is neecha in rasi and ucha in navamsa hence attained > neechabhanga . > > Now any body can post their charts who has any significant event during > the dasas of these planets with chart details .Pls make sure that the > dasa is over and we know all results for sure . > I request every body to stay away from posting for a reading if the > said planets dasa is yet to start or is in own or kids charts for > knowing the results . > > Here we r studying the results with known events ,so pls post charts > with events of ur or known frnds or realtives . > pls post as many as charts with known events to verify the qulaity of > this dasa and planets .But pls stick to the tread by posting relevent > charts at right time of discussion .If u post like 7 charts at a time > may be we cannot follow the discussion in proper way . > i request sreenivasji to initiate the discussion and then all respected > memebers can contribute . > > > regrds sunil nair , > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. 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Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Dear Krishnaji, Quality of life that counts. The misery faced by Lord Rama is beyond mankind imagination spening life in Jungle, dumping his wife..inviting tensions of war....for what? Dharma, Satyam, Vijay etc. I agree that person will be famous, but some other fronts are totally miserable. There are famous sports persons ... (Ex Billiard World champion, found begging in Hyderabad., Sathyan (former football Captain of India .... jumped from train due to financial crunch.. Manmohan Desai, film maker...suicide due to overdebt) I am not sure about their astro chart, but this kind of combination wreck them. Regards Hari , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > Dear Hari, > > What you are saying could be quite correct. Recently, while analysing a blind chart which had Jupiter and Mars exalted and aspecting each other, I rated the person very high. It was a total flop for me. Later, I came to know that it is a chart of a famous convict who was convicted for abusing his wife in the US. Some people term this combination as 'Ucchabhanga'. > > But, we also have such a combination in Shri Rama's chart ... > > Regards, > Krishna > > hashmi963 <hashmi963 wrote: > > While looking for exalted planet in Horoscope, please look for any > other planet stand exalted. There is a say in Malayalam > > 'Uchane, Uchan Nokkiyal Picha thendum' > If exalted, aspects another exalted there is misery indicated. > > Some astrologers miscalculated this theory and landed in trouble. > > If there are two planets exalted and it aspects each other, there > will be ego clash between them and the native will become begger > (instead of Tendulkar) > > Regards > Hari > > , " sreeram srinivas " > <sreeram64@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sairamanji, > > > > As usual you have shared so much of good data from your > experiences - > > excellent. It is a valuable piece of information. > > > > In my private emails to few members, I have communicated that > exalted > > planets indicate strengths of the native rather than > Exalted " profiles " > > !! I have some good collection of exalted planets hororscopes in > all of > > them they are living very ordinary lifes, but their confidence > levels > > are extremely good, would rebound - resilence - retorts are > > instantaneous. I took the cue of Lord Ram, living in Jungles / > Forest > > inspite of a exalted combinations. > > > > I would communicate separately with you offline to get little more > > specific details on the shared information {refer your original > email > > below}, so that privacy is maintained, later would post the > summary in > > the group for everyones benefit. { Hope you do not mind it- for my > > queries would specific to the karatatwa of the debilitated planet} > > > > Thanks again for giving your inputs > > > > with regards, > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > , sairam nat > > <sairaman53@> wrote: > > > > GOOD MORNING ALLC MEMBERS > > > > regarding neecha gragha it seems to give good results generally > whether > > cancellation ornot > > > > i have seen most of people with venus , mars , saturn deblitated > are > > well off in life in every sense > > > > wife having mercury neecha 10 3 1959 saturn star cancer lagna > cleared > > mercury dasa in meena with good job marriage job et etc > nothingshort > > > > father had venusdebitated in virgo with mithuna lagna 15 11 1924 > had > > venus dasa financially welloff goodhouse etc etc > > > > i am having mars deblitated 7th lord for rishabha lagna 31 7 1953 > having > > everything in life goodwife marriewd for 22 year no breaks good job > > children parents house everything mars has not denied anything > (except > > no blood brothersand sisters) ofcourse good lot of nice cousins > > > > How3ever i have seen many friends relatives having ucha planets > > suffering lot in every sense 11 5 1967 c ancer lagna moon str > moon , > > jupiter sun exalgted now running jupiter period not able to earn > nojob > > no marriage no house father left mother very early (not died) good > > person not able to earn even 2000 pm could not find any reason for > such > > failures in life himself an astrologer profesional with very min. > income > > > > another relative had jupiter in lagna had his dasa struggled and > died in > > the dasa itself (19 10 1919 ) cancer lagna (he expected very big > from > > the dasa died at 64 years in jupiter saturn) > > > > so members pls do not worry about neecha planets and deo not > expect much > > from exalted planets as told in dictums > > > > most of cancer lagna people well off in saturn dasa as its starts > are in > > 1, 5, 9 from lagna and suffer in mars dasa as its stars are in 4, > 8 12 > > th houses from cancer lagna > > > > father had sun deblitated in libra had 38 years of govt. service > > > > mother having saturn in 7th house had marriage at 18 years mars in > 2nd > > house for leo lagna every thing ok including raghu in 5th having > son > > together even at 72 years no problem > > > > see whether enemy slow moving malefics suqaring them and friendly > > planets 5,9,3,11 to them > > > > neecha is not a big draw back in a horoscope as i see purely > personal > > view each one may have their own experience and views > > > > > > thank y all with kind and warm regards > > > > SAIRAMAN 18 TH DEC 2007 6 34 AM > > > > we have to take a wholeview ofthe things in a hors. > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > Hare ramakrishna , > > dear group and respected memebers . > > > > Generaly says a neecha planets gives bad results in its dasa and > its > > karakatwa results and even rasi results .So mercury debilated may > giv > > learning or speaking or expressing ideas problems and as 9th lord > if > > debilated it can deny the comfort of father .Some says if planets > are > > debilated and attains neecha bhanga (cancellation of debility ) > then it > > will first giv bad results and then after struggles and grinding it > > gives good status and position. > > > > I would like to discuss the effects of neechagrahas (debilated ) > and > > various raja yogas it can giv while being planet in neecha . > > It says planets positioned in dustana if debilated give rise to > raja > > yogas . > > > > also when a planet obtains the cancellation of nechatwa ,its known > as > > neecha bhanga raja yogas . > > Also if planet is neecha in rasi and ucha in navamsa hence > attained > > neechabhanga . > > > > Now any body can post their charts who has any significant event > during > > the dasas of these planets with chart details .Pls make sure that > the > > dasa is over and we know all results for sure . > > I request every body to stay away from posting for a reading if > the > > said planets dasa is yet to start or is in own or kids charts for > > knowing the results . > > > > Here we r studying the results with known events ,so pls post > charts > > with events of ur or known frnds or realtives . > > pls post as many as charts with known events to verify the > qulaity of > > this dasa and planets .But pls stick to the tread by posting > relevent > > charts at right time of discussion .If u post like 7 charts at a > time > > may be we cannot follow the discussion in proper way . > > i request sreenivasji to initiate the discussion and then all > respected > > memebers can contribute . > > > > > > regrds sunil nair , > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. 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Guest guest Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Sri Ram also had some other standalone grahas which were exalated.--- On Sat, 22/12/07, hashmi963 <hashmi963 wrote: hashmi963 <hashmi963 Re:NEECHA GRAGHA ; SAI 18 12 2007 Date: Saturday, 22 December, 2007, 12:25 PM Dear Krishnaji,Quality of life that counts. The misery faced by Lord Rama is beyond mankind imagination spening life in Jungle, dumping his wife..inviting tensions of war....for what? Dharma, Satyam, Vijay etc.I agree that person will be famous, but some other fronts are totally miserable. There are famous sports persons ... (Ex Billiard World champion, found begging in Hyderabad., Sathyan (former football Captain of India .... jumped from train due to financial crunch.. Manmohan Desai, film maker...suicide due to overdebt) I am not sure about their astro chart, but this kind of combination wreck them.RegardsHari--- In Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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