Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Hare ramakrishna . Ash ji When i read the KAS while ago i read that great diffence in points in lagna and 7th may delay the marriage .and more points in lagna shows a head strong person and may b end up in non marriage .May be i am wrong in understanding .can u clarify ?off course i am not using KAS programme to ascertain it . in first chart ,its in grp messages ,renu ji was mentioning that the wife of this person who is 18 years younger had huge ASV difference in her chart . But it was a lov marriage and she is like a follower of this person And 2nd chart ,yes lagna has more points .But delay in marriage was family problems . so i am waiting for ur understanding and experiences with this kind of charts . regrds sunil nair . om shreem mahalaxmai namah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Dear Sunil, 1st house is personality of a person. Too many points in the 1st house can make one person too egoistic and hot headed and having “my way of the highway” attitude i.e. if more than 36 bindus. For calculation of Delay of Marriage this is not responsible. Delay is caused by Saturn and Jupiter and also 0’s in SAV. Blessings also have an effect. Sometimes, if a person say is in love and if the bindus are very high in the first house then such a person might not listen to anyone, due to adamant nature. When there is a big difference between the 1st house and 7th house, i.e more than 33% in the bindus then the chemistry between the couple is not satisfactory. If 1st house has a lot more bindus then the native might tend to dominate his or her partner and vice versa. This also has to be checked from lagna, sun and moon to get confirmation. So in summary, calculation for Delay is different and the meaning of more points in lagna is different. In the chart given by Renu, a small time difference can change the lagna from Gemini to Cancer. In this chart that Renu has given i.e. 6th Jan 1965, 18:20 PM, 7N17 and 80E38 with TZ of IST -5:30 I get Planet Degrees As 27 Ge 50 Su 23 Sg 33 Mo 3 Aq 21 Ma 2 Vi 46 Me 0 Sg 28 JuR 23 Ar 40 Ve 0 Sg 17 Sa 9 Aq 21 Ra 29 Ta 13 Ke 29 Sc 13 Hse SAV Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa 1 25 3 12 30 4 29 14 9 2 30 16 16 40 19 27 14 17 3 27 8 4 8 9 8 10 21 4 32 5 17 10 12 22 8 20 5 35 12 18 13 14 24 16 7 6 28 11 13 39 3 25 3 17 7 28 6 15 11 13 16 12 17 8 18 5 1 7 10 12 13 14 9 28 1 19 39 1 20 7 10 10 27 21 15 11 20 28 12 11 11 34 8 7 10 14 12 8 34 12 25 10 14 11 10 13 11 14 A few mins change i.e say 18:30 PM, the lagna changes in 10 mins to Planet Degrees As 0 Cn 9 Su 23 Sg 33 Mo 3 Aq 26 Ma 2 Vi 46 Me 0 Sg 28 JuR 23 Ar 40 Ve 0 Sg 18 Sa 9 Aq 21 Ra 29 Ta 13 Ke 29 Sc 13 Hse SAV Su Mo Ma Me Ju Ve Sa 1 32 16 15 15 20 26 15 17 2 25 2 3 -3 5 4 6 20 3 32 0 18 6 5 17 1 20 4 38 8 19 14 12 19 12 9 5 24 10 11 10 -1 18 4 14 6 33 2 16 8 9 11 6 19 7 17 -1 1 7 6 10 8 14 8 28 1 20 15 -1 17 6 9 9 23 17 14 6 16 23 8 12 10 33 1 5 8 9 8 3 32 11 31 6 17 9 6 8 7 16 12 21 4 12 12 2 29 12 9 7th house is ruled by Saturn and Sa is the only strong planet to give marriage as per 18:30 PM I get Sa/Sa start at Antardasha Start To Saturn 2000-Oct-01 2003-Oct-04 Renu, has not given any events to verify. However, I have just pasted the power of planets. With Cancer lagna, SAV points of 1st and 7th are 32/17. With Gemini lagna its 25/28. Hope this helps. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of sunil nair Wednesday December 19, 2007 6:37 PM Ash ji -astavarga diference in lagna and 7th house . Hare ramakrishna . Ash ji When i read the KAS while ago i read that great diffence in points in lagna and 7th may delay the marriage .and more points in lagna shows a head strong person and may b end up in non marriage .May be i am wrong in understanding .can u clarify ?off course i am not using KAS programme to ascertain it . in first chart ,its in grp messages ,renu ji was mentioning that the wife of this person who is 18 years younger had huge ASV difference in her chart . But it was a lov marriage and she is like a follower of this person And 2nd chart ,yes lagna has more points .But delay in marriage was family problems .. so i am waiting for ur understanding and experiences with this kind of charts . regrds sunil nair . om shreem mahalaxmai namah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 hare ramakrishna, dear ash ji , the message got turnicated .But i read full mail from my e mail folder. i was getting cancer lagna with same time she provided and yes KAS may be getting different lagna. But i understand ur points . I would like to know abt ur opinion on marrying younger girls below than normal practise according to KAS. regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , "Ash" <kas wrote:>> Dear Sunil,> > > > 1st house is personality of a person. Too many points in the 1st house can> make one person too egoistic and hot headed and having "my way of the> highway" attitude i.e. if more than 36 bindus. > > > > For calculation of Delay of Marriage this is not responsible. Delay is> caused by Saturn and Jupiter and also 0's in SAV. Blessings also have an> effect. Sometimes, if a person say is in love and if the bindus are very> high in the first house then such a person might not listen to anyone, due> to adamant nature.> > > > When there is a big difference between the 1st house and 7th house, i.e more> than 33% in the bindus then the chemistry between the couple is not> satisfactory. If 1st house has a lot more bindus then the native might tend> to dominate his or her partner and vice versa.> > > > This also has to be checked from lagna, sun and moon to get confirmation. > > > > So in summary, calculation for Delay is different and the meaning of more> points in lagna is different. > > > > In the chart given by Renu, a small time difference can change the lagna> from Gemini to Cancer. > > > > > > In this chart that Renu has given i.e. 6th Jan 1965, 18:20 PM, 7N17 and> 80E38 with TZ of IST -5:30> > > > I get > > > > > Planet> > Degrees> > > As> > 27 Ge 50> > > Su> > 23 Sg 33> > > Mo> > 3 Aq 21> > > Ma> > 2 Vi 46> > > Me> > 0 Sg 28> > > JuR> > 23 Ar 40> > > Ve> > 0 Sg 17> > > Sa> > 9 Aq 21> > > Ra> > 29 Ta 13> > > Ke> > 29 Sc 13> > > > > > > Hse> > SAV> > Su> > Mo> > Ma> > Me> > Ju> > Ve> > Sa> > > 1> > 25> > 3> > 12> > 30> > 4> > 29> > 14> > 9> > > 2> > 30> > 16> > 16> > 40> > 19> > 27> > 14> > 17> > > 3> > 27> > 8> > 4> > 8> > 9> > 8> > 10> > 21> > > 4> > 32> > 5> > 17> > 10> > 12> > 22> > 8> > 20> > > 5> > 35> > 12> > 18> > 13> > 14> > 24> > 16> > 7> > > 6> > 28> > 11> > 13> > 39> > 3> > 25> > 3> > 17> > > 7> > 28> > 6> > 15> > 11> > 13> > 16> > 12> > 17> > > 8> > 18> > 5> > 1> > 7> > 10> > 12> > 13> > 14> > > 9> > 28> > 1> > 19> > 39> > 1> > 20> > 7> > 10> > > 10> > 27> > 21> > 15> > 11> > 20> > 28> > 12> > 11> > > 11> > 34> > 8> > 7> > 10> > 14> > 12> > 8> > 34> > > 12> > 25> > 10> > 14> > 11> > 10> > 13> > 11> > 14> > > > > > A few mins change i.e say 18:30 PM, the lagna changes in 10 mins to > > > > > Planet> > Degrees> > > As> > 0 Cn 9> > > Su> > 23 Sg 33> > > Mo> > 3 Aq 26> > > Ma> > 2 Vi 46> > > Me> > 0 Sg 28> > > JuR> > 23 Ar 40> > > Ve> > 0 Sg 18> > > Sa> > 9 Aq 21> > > Ra> > 29 Ta 13> > > Ke> > 29 Sc 13> > > > > > > Hse> > SAV> > Su> > Mo> > Ma> > Me> > Ju> > Ve> > Sa> > > 1> > 32> > 16> > 15> > 15> > 20> > 26> > 15> > 17> > > 2> > 25> > 2> > 3> > -3> > 5> > 4> > 6> > 20> > > 3> > 32> > 0> > 18> > 6> > 5> > 17> > 1> > 20> > > 4> > 38> > 8> > 19> > 14> > 12> > 19> > 12> > 9> > > 5> > 24> > 10> > 11> > 10> > -1> > 18> > 4> > 14> > > 6> > 33> > 2> > 16> > 8> > 9> > 11> > 6> > 19> > > 7> > 17> > -1> > 1> > 7> > 6> > 10> > 8> > 14> > > 8> > 28> > 1> > 20> > 15> > -1> > 17> > 6> > 9> > > 9> > 23> > 17> > 14> > 6> > 16> > 23> > 8> > 12> > > 10> > 33> > 1> > 5> > 8> > 9> > 8> > 3> > 32> > > 11> > 31> > 6> > 17> > 9> > 6> > 8> > 7> > 16> > > 12> > 21> > 4> > 12> > 12> > 2> > 29> > 12> > 9> > > > > > 7th house is ruled by Saturn and Sa is the only strong planet to give> marriage as per 18:30 PM> > > > I get Sa/Sa start at > > > > > Antardasha> > Start> > To> > > Saturn> > 2000-Oct-01> > 2003-Oct-04> > > > > > Renu, has not given any events to verify. However, I have just pasted the> power of planets. > > > > With Cancer lagna, SAV points of 1st and 7th are 32/17. With Gemini lagna> its 25/28.> > > > Hope this helps.> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca> > _____ > > > On Behalf Of sunil nair> Wednesday December 19, 2007 6:37 PM> > Ash ji -astavarga diference in lagna and> 7th house .> > > > > > Hare ramakrishna .> > Ash ji > > > > When i read the KAS while ago i read that great diffence in points in> lagna and 7th may delay the marriage .and more points in lagna shows a head> strong person and may b end up in non marriage .May be i am wrong in> understanding .can u clarify ?off course i am not using KAS programme to> ascertain it .> > > > in first chart ,its in grp messages ,renu ji was mentioning that the wife of> this person who is 18 years younger had huge ASV difference in her chart .> > > > But it was a lov marriage and she is like a follower of this person > > > > And 2nd chart ,yes lagna has more points .But delay in marriage was family> problems .> > > > so i am waiting for ur understanding and experiences with this kind of> charts .> > > > > > regrds sunil nair .> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Dear Ash, Focusing on ashtavarga bindus in 1st and 7th, can you please say what condition will lead to a divorce? Is it when there is a major difference between the two? Or is it when both are of equal strength? What I feel is usually a divorce happens when both the people are equally egotistc and refuse to comprpomise. For that 1st and 7th must be equally strong. Isnt it? Or is it the other wise? If they are of equal strength, both of them will get along well?? In my observation marriages (even though there may not be any chemistry) do not end in a divorce if one is submissive to the dominating person. I would like to know as per KAS, what have you observed in divorce charts. Major difference between the bindus in 1st and 7th or no major difference? Regards, Jyothi , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Sunil, > > > > 1st house is personality of a person. Too many points in the 1st house can > make one person too egoistic and hot headed and having " my way of the > highway " attitude i.e. if more than 36 bindus. > > > > For calculation of Delay of Marriage this is not responsible. Delay is > caused by Saturn and Jupiter and also 0's in SAV. Blessings also have an > effect. Sometimes, if a person say is in love and if the bindus are very > high in the first house then such a person might not listen to anyone, due > to adamant nature. > > > > When there is a big difference between the 1st house and 7th house, i.e more > than 33% in the bindus then the chemistry between the couple is not > satisfactory. If 1st house has a lot more bindus then the native might tend > to dominate his or her partner and vice versa. > > > > This also has to be checked from lagna, sun and moon to get confirmation. > > > > So in summary, calculation for Delay is different and the meaning of more > points in lagna is different. > > > > In the chart given by Renu, a small time difference can change the lagna > from Gemini to Cancer. > > > > > > In this chart that Renu has given i.e. 6th Jan 1965, 18:20 PM, 7N17 and > 80E38 with TZ of IST -5:30 > > > > I get > > > > > Planet > > Degrees > > > As > > 27 Ge 50 > > > Su > > 23 Sg 33 > > > Mo > > 3 Aq 21 > > > Ma > > 2 Vi 46 > > > Me > > 0 Sg 28 > > > JuR > > 23 Ar 40 > > > Ve > > 0 Sg 17 > > > Sa > > 9 Aq 21 > > > Ra > > 29 Ta 13 > > > Ke > > 29 Sc 13 Hse > > SAV > > Su > > Mo > > Ma > > Me > > Ju > > Ve > > Sa > > > 1 > > 25 > > 3 > > 12 > > 30 > > 4 > > 29 > > 14 > > 9 > > > 2 > > 30 > > 16 > > 16 > > 40 > > 19 > > 27 > > 14 > > 17 > > > 3 > > 27 > > 8 > > 4 > > 8 > > 9 > > 8 > > 10 > > 21 > > > 4 > > 32 > > 5 > > 17 > > 10 > > 12 > > 22 > > 8 > > 20 > > > 5 > > 35 > > 12 > > 18 > > 13 > > 14 > > 24 > > 16 > > 7 > > > 6 > > 28 > > 11 > > 13 > > 39 > > 3 > > 25 > > 3 > > 17 > > > 7 > > 28 > > 6 > > 15 > > 11 > > 13 > > 16 > > 12 > > 17 > > > 8 > > 18 > > 5 > > 1 > > 7 > > 10 > > 12 > > 13 > > 14 > > > 9 > > 28 > > 1 > > 19 > > 39 > > 1 > > 20 > > 7 > > 10 > > > 10 > > 27 > > 21 > > 15 > > 11 > > 20 > > 28 > > 12 > > 11 > > > 11 > > 34 > > 8 > > 7 > > 10 > > 14 > > 12 > > 8 > > 34 > > > 12 > > 25 > > 10 > > 14 > > 11 > > 10 > > 13 > > 11 > > 14 > > > > > > A few mins change i.e say 18:30 PM, the lagna changes in 10 mins to > > > > > Planet > > Degrees > > > As > > 0 Cn 9 > > > Su > > 23 Sg 33 > > > Mo > > 3 Aq 26 > > > Ma > > 2 Vi 46 > > > Me > > 0 Sg 28 > > > JuR > > 23 Ar 40 > > > Ve > > 0 Sg 18 > > > Sa > > 9 Aq 21 > > > Ra > > 29 Ta 13 > > > Ke > > 29 Sc 13 Hse > > SAV > > Su > > Mo > > Ma > > Me > > Ju > > Ve > > Sa > > > 1 > > 32 > > 16 > > 15 > > 15 > > 20 > > 26 > > 15 > > 17 > > > 2 > > 25 > > 2 > > 3 > > -3 > > 5 > > 4 > > 6 > > 20 > > > 3 > > 32 > > 0 > > 18 > > 6 > > 5 > > 17 > > 1 > > 20 > > > 4 > > 38 > > 8 > > 19 > > 14 > > 12 > > 19 > > 12 > > 9 > > > 5 > > 24 > > 10 > > 11 > > 10 > > -1 > > 18 > > 4 > > 14 > > > 6 > > 33 > > 2 > > 16 > > 8 > > 9 > > 11 > > 6 > > 19 > > > 7 > > 17 > > -1 > > 1 > > 7 > > 6 > > 10 > > 8 > > 14 > > > 8 > > 28 > > 1 > > 20 > > 15 > > -1 > > 17 > > 6 > > 9 > > > 9 > > 23 > > 17 > > 14 > > 6 > > 16 > > 23 > > 8 > > 12 > > > 10 > > 33 > > 1 > > 5 > > 8 > > 9 > > 8 > > 3 > > 32 > > > 11 > > 31 > > 6 > > 17 > > 9 > > 6 > > 8 > > 7 > > 16 > > > 12 > > 21 > > 4 > > 12 > > 12 > > 2 > > 29 > > 12 > > 9 > > > > > > 7th house is ruled by Saturn and Sa is the only strong planet to give > marriage as per 18:30 PM > > > > I get Sa/Sa start at > > > > > Antardasha > > Start > > To > > > Saturn > > 2000-Oct-01 > > 2003-Oct-04 > > > > > > Renu, has not given any events to verify. However, I have just pasted the > power of planets. > > > > With Cancer lagna, SAV points of 1st and 7th are 32/17. With Gemini lagna > its 25/28. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of sunil nair > Wednesday December 19, 2007 6:37 PM > > Ash ji -astavarga diference in lagna and > 7th house . > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna . > > Ash ji > > > > When i read the KAS while ago i read that great diffence in points in > lagna and 7th may delay the marriage .and more points in lagna shows a head > strong person and may b end up in non marriage .May be i am wrong in > understanding .can u clarify ?off course i am not using KAS programme to > ascertain it . > > > > in first chart ,its in grp messages ,renu ji was mentioning that the wife of > this person who is 18 years younger had huge ASV difference in her chart . > > > > But it was a lov marriage and she is like a follower of this person > > > > And 2nd chart ,yes lagna has more points .But delay in marriage was family > problems . > > > > so i am waiting for ur understanding and experiences with this kind of > charts . > > > > > > regrds sunil nair . > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Dear Jyothi, You can refer to the laws of Divorce and the statistics from http://krushna.sageasita.com lessons. For disputes, between husband and wife, u check if the lords of lagna and 7th and same from sun, mo, venus and their 7th lords are their position i.e. if they are in 6:8, or 2:12 then that might show disputes. This can also show, husband and wife living away from each other that might be due to any reason as well, all these things you can judge after studying the full chart. The nature, personality, capacity and psychology of the person must be studied and that too w.r.t desh, kaal and paatra. What if lagna and 7th house both have equal bindus and their lords are in 5:9, v/s if lagna and 7th SAV are equal and if lagna and 7th lords are in 6:8? In another case, say if the same combination is there i.e. lagna, sun and moon and 7th from there in are in 6:8 and at the same time, sa and ra of male is aspecting mars of female (mars is sexual barometer of female) and if the venus of male is aspected by mars of female chart and venus is sexual barometer in male, then in that case what will happen? What if there are so many factors for divorce in a chart , but both the charts of male and female have strong blessings Making a long story short there are too many factors involved to judge a divorce and one has to study each on case to case basis to be sure. Dasha and antras also play critical role as sometimes separation can also be dasha dependent, like husband and wife might separate in a particular dasha and then get back together when better times start. After divorce also couples have known to get back together. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of jyothi_b_lakshmi Thursday December 20, 2007 10:27 PM Re: Ash ji -astavarga diference in lagna and 7th house . Dear Ash, Focusing on ashtavarga bindus in 1st and 7th, can you please say what condition will lead to a divorce? Is it when there is a major difference between the two? Or is it when both are of equal strength? What I feel is usually a divorce happens when both the people are equally egotistc and refuse to comprpomise. For that 1st and 7th must be equally strong. Isnt it? Or is it the other wise? If they are of equal strength, both of them will get along well?? In my observation marriages (even though there may not be any chemistry) do not end in a divorce if one is submissive to the dominating person. I would like to know as per KAS, what have you observed in divorce charts. Major difference between the bindus in 1st and 7th or no major difference? Regards, Jyothi , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Sunil, > > > > 1st house is personality of a person. Too many points in the 1st house can > make one person too egoistic and hot headed and having " my way of the > highway " attitude i.e. if more than 36 bindus. > > > > For calculation of Delay of Marriage this is not responsible. Delay is > caused by Saturn and Jupiter and also 0's in SAV. Blessings also have an > effect. Sometimes, if a person say is in love and if the bindus are very > high in the first house then such a person might not listen to anyone, due > to adamant nature. > > > > When there is a big difference between the 1st house and 7th house, i.e more > than 33% in the bindus then the chemistry between the couple is not > satisfactory. If 1st house has a lot more bindus then the native might tend > to dominate his or her partner and vice versa. > > > > This also has to be checked from lagna, sun and moon to get confirmation. > > > > So in summary, calculation for Delay is different and the meaning of more > points in lagna is different. > > > > In the chart given by Renu, a small time difference can change the lagna > from Gemini to Cancer. > > > > > > In this chart that Renu has given i.e. 6th Jan 1965, 18:20 PM, 7N17 and > 80E38 with TZ of IST -5:30 > > > > I get > > > > > Planet > > Degrees > > > As > > 27 Ge 50 > > > Su > > 23 Sg 33 > > > Mo > > 3 Aq 21 > > > Ma > > 2 Vi 46 > > > Me > > 0 Sg 28 > > > JuR > > 23 Ar 40 > > > Ve > > 0 Sg 17 > > > Sa > > 9 Aq 21 > > > Ra > > 29 Ta 13 > > > Ke > > 29 Sc 13 > > > > > > > Hse > > SAV > > Su > > Mo > > Ma > > Me > > Ju > > Ve > > Sa > > > 1 > > 25 > > 3 > > 12 > > 30 > > 4 > > 29 > > 14 > > 9 > > > 2 > > 30 > > 16 > > 16 > > 40 > > 19 > > 27 > > 14 > > 17 > > > 3 > > 27 > > 8 > > 4 > > 8 > > 9 > > 8 > > 10 > > 21 > > > 4 > > 32 > > 5 > > 17 > > 10 > > 12 > > 22 > > 8 > > 20 > > > 5 > > 35 > > 12 > > 18 > > 13 > > 14 > > 24 > > 16 > > 7 > > > 6 > > 28 > > 11 > > 13 > > 39 > > 3 > > 25 > > 3 > > 17 > > > 7 > > 28 > > 6 > > 15 > > 11 > > 13 > > 16 > > 12 > > 17 > > > 8 > > 18 > > 5 > > 1 > > 7 > > 10 > > 12 > > 13 > > 14 > > > 9 > > 28 > > 1 > > 19 > > 39 > > 1 > > 20 > > 7 > > 10 > > > 10 > > 27 > > 21 > > 15 > > 11 > > 20 > > 28 > > 12 > > 11 > > > 11 > > 34 > > 8 > > 7 > > 10 > > 14 > > 12 > > 8 > > 34 > > > 12 > > 25 > > 10 > > 14 > > 11 > > 10 > > 13 > > 11 > > 14 > > > > > > A few mins change i.e say 18:30 PM, the lagna changes in 10 mins to > > > > > Planet > > Degrees > > > As > > 0 Cn 9 > > > Su > > 23 Sg 33 > > > Mo > > 3 Aq 26 > > > Ma > > 2 Vi 46 > > > Me > > 0 Sg 28 > > > JuR > > 23 Ar 40 > > > Ve > > 0 Sg 18 > > > Sa > > 9 Aq 21 > > > Ra > > 29 Ta 13 > > > Ke > > 29 Sc 13 > > > > > > > Hse > > SAV > > Su > > Mo > > Ma > > Me > > Ju > > Ve > > Sa > > > 1 > > 32 > > 16 > > 15 > > 15 > > 20 > > 26 > > 15 > > 17 > > > 2 > > 25 > > 2 > > 3 > > -3 > > 5 > > 4 > > 6 > > 20 > > > 3 > > 32 > > 0 > > 18 > > 6 > > 5 > > 17 > > 1 > > 20 > > > 4 > > 38 > > 8 > > 19 > > 14 > > 12 > > 19 > > 12 > > 9 > > > 5 > > 24 > > 10 > > 11 > > 10 > > -1 > > 18 > > 4 > > 14 > > > 6 > > 33 > > 2 > > 16 > > 8 > > 9 > > 11 > > 6 > > 19 > > > 7 > > 17 > > -1 > > 1 > > 7 > > 6 > > 10 > > 8 > > 14 > > > 8 > > 28 > > 1 > > 20 > > 15 > > -1 > > 17 > > 6 > > 9 > > > 9 > > 23 > > 17 > > 14 > > 6 > > 16 > > 23 > > 8 > > 12 > > > 10 > > 33 > > 1 > > 5 > > 8 > > 9 > > 8 > > 3 > > 32 > > > 11 > > 31 > > 6 > > 17 > > 9 > > 6 > > 8 > > 7 > > 16 > > > 12 > > 21 > > 4 > > 12 > > 12 > > 2 > > 29 > > 12 > > 9 > > > > > > 7th house is ruled by Saturn and Sa is the only strong planet to give > marriage as per 18:30 PM > > > > I get Sa/Sa start at > > > > > Antardasha > > Start > > To > > > Saturn > > 2000-Oct-01 > > 2003-Oct-04 > > > > > > Renu, has not given any events to verify. However, I have just pasted the > power of planets. > > > > With Cancer lagna, SAV points of 1st and 7th are 32/17. With Gemini lagna > its 25/28. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of sunil nair > Wednesday December 19, 2007 6:37 PM > > Ash ji -astavarga diference in lagna and > 7th house . > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna . > > Ash ji > > > > When i read the KAS while ago i read that great diffence in points in > lagna and 7th may delay the marriage .and more points in lagna shows a head > strong person and may b end up in non marriage .May be i am wrong in > understanding .can u clarify ?off course i am not using KAS programme to > ascertain it . > > > > in first chart ,its in grp messages ,renu ji was mentioning that the wife of > this person who is 18 years younger had huge ASV difference in her chart . > > > > But it was a lov marriage and she is like a follower of this person > > > > And 2nd chart ,yes lagna has more points .But delay in marriage was family > problems . > > > > so i am waiting for ur understanding and experiences with this kind of > charts . > > > > > > regrds sunil nair . > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Dear Sunil, Please refer to me as Ash. I feel more amongst friends that way. As per VA that I have read, Saturn influencing the 7th house or owning 7th house would indicate that. I haven’t done much research into that area as such, but have focused more on timing of event. This discussion with accurate charts can be helpful. I am sorry I can’t offer more insight at this time, but if I do learn something I shall share it with the group. I will try to study the charts that are being shared. If you or Sreenadh can organize these charts with a few major events of life, then it will be quite helpful for such research. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of sunil nair Thursday December 20, 2007 9:22 PM Subject: Re: Ash ji -astavarga diference in lagna and 7th house . hare ramakrishna, dear ash ji , the message got turnicated .But i read full mail from my e mail folder. i was getting cancer lagna with same time she provided and yes KAS may be getting different lagna. But i understand ur points . I would like to know abt ur opinion on marrying younger girls below than normal practise according to KAS. regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Sunil, > > > > 1st house is personality of a person. Too many points in the 1st house can > make one person too egoistic and hot headed and having " my way of the > highway " attitude i.e. if more than 36 bindus. > > > > For calculation of Delay of Marriage this is not responsible. Delay is > caused by Saturn and Jupiter and also 0's in SAV. Blessings also have an > effect. Sometimes, if a person say is in love and if the bindus are very > high in the first house then such a person might not listen to anyone, due > to adamant nature. > > > > When there is a big difference between the 1st house and 7th house, i.e more > than 33% in the bindus then the chemistry between the couple is not > satisfactory. If 1st house has a lot more bindus then the native might tend > to dominate his or her partner and vice versa. > > > > This also has to be checked from lagna, sun and moon to get confirmation. > > > > So in summary, calculation for Delay is different and the meaning of more > points in lagna is different. > > > > In the chart given by Renu, a small time difference can change the lagna > from Gemini to Cancer. > > > > > > In this chart that Renu has given i.e. 6th Jan 1965, 18:20 PM, 7N17 and > 80E38 with TZ of IST -5:30 > > > > I get > > > > > Planet > > Degrees > > > As > > 27 Ge 50 > > > Su > > 23 Sg 33 > > > Mo > > 3 Aq 21 > > > Ma > > 2 Vi 46 > > > Me > > 0 Sg 28 > > > JuR > > 23 Ar 40 > > > Ve > > 0 Sg 17 > > > Sa > > 9 Aq 21 > > > Ra > > 29 Ta 13 > > > Ke > > 29 Sc 13 > > > > > > > Hse > > SAV > > Su > > Mo > > Ma > > Me > > Ju > > Ve > > Sa > > > 1 > > 25 > > 3 > > 12 > > 30 > > 4 > > 29 > > 14 > > 9 > > > 2 > > 30 > > 16 > > 16 > > 40 > > 19 > > 27 > > 14 > > 17 > > > 3 > > 27 > > 8 > > 4 > > 8 > > 9 > > 8 > > 10 > > 21 > > > 4 > > 32 > > 5 > > 17 > > 10 > > 12 > > 22 > > 8 > > 20 > > > 5 > > 35 > > 12 > > 18 > > 13 > > 14 > > 24 > > 16 > > 7 > > > 6 > > 28 > > 11 > > 13 > > 39 > > 3 > > 25 > > 3 > > 17 > > > 7 > > 28 > > 6 > > 15 > > 11 > > 13 > > 16 > > 12 > > 17 > > > 8 > > 18 > > 5 > > 1 > > 7 > > 10 > > 12 > > 13 > > 14 > > > 9 > > 28 > > 1 > > 19 > > 39 > > 1 > > 20 > > 7 > > 10 > > > 10 > > 27 > > 21 > > 15 > > 11 > > 20 > > 28 > > 12 > > 11 > > > 11 > > 34 > > 8 > > 7 > > 10 > > 14 > > 12 > > 8 > > 34 > > > 12 > > 25 > > 10 > > 14 > > 11 > > 10 > > 13 > > 11 > > 14 > > > > > > A few mins change i.e say 18:30 PM, the lagna changes in 10 mins to > > > > > Planet > > Degrees > > > As > > 0 Cn 9 > > > Su > > 23 Sg 33 > > > Mo > > 3 Aq 26 > > > Ma > > 2 Vi 46 > > > Me > > 0 Sg 28 > > > JuR > > 23 Ar 40 > > > Ve > > 0 Sg 18 > > > Sa > > 9 Aq 21 > > > Ra > > 29 Ta 13 > > > Ke > > 29 Sc 13 > > > > > > > Hse > > SAV > > Su > > Mo > > Ma > > Me > > Ju > > Ve > > Sa > > > 1 > > 32 > > 16 > > 15 > > 15 > > 20 > > 26 > > 15 > > 17 > > > 2 > > 25 > > 2 > > 3 > > -3 > > 5 > > 4 > > 6 > > 20 > > > 3 > > 32 > > 0 > > 18 > > 6 > > 5 > > 17 > > 1 > > 20 > > > 4 > > 38 > > 8 > > 19 > > 14 > > 12 > > 19 > > 12 > > 9 > > > 5 > > 24 > > 10 > > 11 > > 10 > > -1 > > 18 > > 4 > > 14 > > > 6 > > 33 > > 2 > > 16 > > 8 > > 9 > > 11 > > 6 > > 19 > > > 7 > > 17 > > -1 > > 1 > > 7 > > 6 > > 10 > > 8 > > 14 > > > 8 > > 28 > > 1 > > 20 > > 15 > > -1 > > 17 > > 6 > > 9 > > > 9 > > 23 > > 17 > > 14 > > 6 > > 16 > > 23 > > 8 > > 12 > > > 10 > > 33 > > 1 > > 5 > > 8 > > 9 > > 8 > > 3 > > 32 > > > 11 > > 31 > > 6 > > 17 > > 9 > > 6 > > 8 > > 7 > > 16 > > > 12 > > 21 > > 4 > > 12 > > 12 > > 2 > > 29 > > 12 > > 9 > > > > > > 7th house is ruled by Saturn and Sa is the only strong planet to give > marriage as per 18:30 PM > > > > I get Sa/Sa start at > > > > > Antardasha > > Start > > To > > > Saturn > > 2000-Oct-01 > > 2003-Oct-04 > > > > > > Renu, has not given any events to verify. However, I have just pasted the > power of planets. > > > > With Cancer lagna, SAV points of 1st and 7th are 32/17. With Gemini lagna > its 25/28. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of sunil nair > Wednesday December 19, 2007 6:37 PM > > Ash ji -astavarga diference in lagna and > 7th house . > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna . > > Ash ji > > > > When i read the KAS while ago i read that great diffence in points in > lagna and 7th may delay the marriage .and more points in lagna shows a head > strong person and may b end up in non marriage .May be i am wrong in > understanding .can u clarify ?off course i am not using KAS programme to > ascertain it . > > > > in first chart ,its in grp messages ,renu ji was mentioning that the wife of > this person who is 18 years younger had huge ASV difference in her chart . > > > > But it was a lov marriage and she is like a follower of this person > > > > And 2nd chart ,yes lagna has more points .But delay in marriage was family > problems . > > > > so i am waiting for ur understanding and experiences with this kind of > charts . > > > > > > regrds sunil nair . > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Dear Ash ji & Sunil ji, " Renu, has not given any events to verify. " Sorry....a few minutes ago I posted the dates of marriage of both couples, a mail addressed to Krishna ji. Also in the case of 1944 native, his father had died on 12th July 1965. Even his father was a well known journalist + poet in SL. Hope this would be of some help. blessings Renu -- In , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Sunil, > > > > Please refer to me as Ash. I feel more amongst friends that way. > > As per VA that I have read, Saturn influencing the 7th house or owning 7th > house would indicate that. I haven't done much research into that area as > such, but have focused more on timing of event. > > This discussion with accurate charts can be helpful. I am sorry I can't > offer more insight at this time, but if I do learn something I shall share > it with the group. > > I will try to study the charts that are being shared. If you or Sreenadh > can organize these charts with a few major events of life, then it will be > quite helpful for such research. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Dear Ashji, I had gone through the articles. But what I wanted to know was your observation just based on ashtavarga bindus. It is true that a lot of other factors that decide a divorce. For time being I am not considering that. If we have, say 8 dovorce charts, in your observation, what have you found? Major difference between the points or less difference between the points between 1st and 7th? This was what I wanted to know. I dont have much divorce charts with me now to cross check. So I thought I will ask you. I just wanted to verify the rule you applied(more points in Lagna-dominating and egotist leading to divorce). (One of my ways of learning is to take a group of charts with similar experience and try to find what is common in them. I thought of doing the same with divorce charts wrt ashtavarga points in 1st and 7th based on your reply. Unfortunately at present I dont have much divorce charts with me) Regards, Jyothi , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Jyothi, > > > > You can refer to the laws of Divorce and the statistics from > http://krushna.sageasita.com <http://krushna.sageasita.com/> lessons. > > > > For disputes, between husband and wife, u check if the lords of lagna and > 7th and same from sun, mo, venus and their 7th lords are their position i.e. > if they are in 6:8, or 2:12 then that might show disputes. This can also > show, husband and wife living away from each other that might be due to any > reason as well, all these things you can judge after studying the full > chart. > > > > The nature, personality, capacity and psychology of the person must be > studied and that too w.r.t desh, kaal and paatra. > > > > What if lagna and 7th house both have equal bindus and their lords are in > 5:9, v/s if lagna and 7th SAV are equal and if lagna and 7th lords are in > 6:8? > > > > In another case, say if the same combination is there i.e. lagna, sun and > moon and 7th from there in are in 6:8 and at the same time, sa and ra of > male is aspecting mars of female (mars is sexual barometer of female) and if > the venus of male is aspected by mars of female chart and venus is sexual > barometer in male, then in that case what will happen? > > > > What if there are so many factors for divorce in a chart , but both the > charts of male and female have strong blessings > > > > Making a long story short there are too many factors involved to judge a > divorce and one has to study each on case to case basis to be sure. Dasha > and antras also play critical role as sometimes separation can also be dasha > dependent, like husband and wife might separate in a particular dasha and > then get back together when better times start. > > > > After divorce also couples have known to get back together. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of > jyothi_b_lakshmi > Thursday December 20, 2007 10:27 PM > > Re: Ash ji -astavarga diference in lagna > and 7th house . > > > > Dear Ash, > > Focusing on ashtavarga bindus in 1st and 7th, can you please say what > condition will lead to a divorce? Is it when there is a major > difference between the two? Or is it when both are of equal strength? > What I feel is usually a divorce happens when both the people are > equally egotistc and refuse to comprpomise. For that 1st and 7th must > be equally strong. Isnt it? Or is it the other wise? If they are of > equal strength, both of them will get along well?? In my observation > marriages (even though there may not be any chemistry) do not end in > a divorce if one is submissive to the dominating person. I would like > to know as per KAS, what have you observed in divorce charts. Major > difference between the bindus in 1st and 7th or no major difference? > > Regards, > Jyothi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Dear Jyothi, Please refer to me as Ash and remove the ji, for some reason, I feel more comfortable and feel amongst friends that way. Sandy Crowther had done an intense research based on the laws given by Krushnaji for Divorce or problems in marital life. Its based on a study of more than 1000 charts. You can refer to that from http://krushna.sageasita.com and u can find this under Krushna’s FAQ Corner and it’s called “KAS Final Research Statistics on Marriage / Relationship” Even in the divorce charts you or anyone on the list have, you can just test these laws given and see how many of them fit. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of jyothi_b_lakshmi Friday December 21, 2007 2:34 AM Subject: Re: Ash ji -astavarga diference in lagna and 7th house . Dear Ashji, I had gone through the articles. But what I wanted to know was your observation just based on ashtavarga bindus. It is true that a lot of other factors that decide a divorce. For time being I am not considering that. If we have, say 8 dovorce charts, in your observation, what have you found? Major difference between the points or less difference between the points between 1st and 7th? This was what I wanted to know. I dont have much divorce charts with me now to cross check. So I thought I will ask you. I just wanted to verify the rule you applied(more points in Lagna-dominating and egotist leading to divorce). (One of my ways of learning is to take a group of charts with similar experience and try to find what is common in them. I thought of doing the same with divorce charts wrt ashtavarga points in 1st and 7th based on your reply. Unfortunately at present I dont have much divorce charts with me) Regards, Jyothi , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Jyothi, > > > > You can refer to the laws of Divorce and the statistics from > http://krushna.sageasita.com <http://krushna.sageasita.com/> lessons. > > > > For disputes, between husband and wife, u check if the lords of lagna and > 7th and same from sun, mo, venus and their 7th lords are their position i.e. > if they are in 6:8, or 2:12 then that might show disputes. This can also > show, husband and wife living away from each other that might be due to any > reason as well, all these things you can judge after studying the full > chart. > > > > The nature, personality, capacity and psychology of the person must be > studied and that too w.r.t desh, kaal and paatra. > > > > What if lagna and 7th house both have equal bindus and their lords are in > 5:9, v/s if lagna and 7th SAV are equal and if lagna and 7th lords are in > 6:8? > > > > In another case, say if the same combination is there i.e. lagna, sun and > moon and 7th from there in are in 6:8 and at the same time, sa and ra of > male is aspecting mars of female (mars is sexual barometer of female) and if > the venus of male is aspected by mars of female chart and venus is sexual > barometer in male, then in that case what will happen? > > > > What if there are so many factors for divorce in a chart , but both the > charts of male and female have strong blessings > > > > Making a long story short there are too many factors involved to judge a > divorce and one has to study each on case to case basis to be sure. Dasha > and antras also play critical role as sometimes separation can also be dasha > dependent, like husband and wife might separate in a particular dasha and > then get back together when better times start. > > > > After divorce also couples have known to get back together. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of > jyothi_b_lakshmi > Thursday December 20, 2007 10:27 PM > > Re: Ash ji -astavarga diference in lagna > and 7th house . > > > > Dear Ash, > > Focusing on ashtavarga bindus in 1st and 7th, can you please say what > condition will lead to a divorce? Is it when there is a major > difference between the two? Or is it when both are of equal strength? > What I feel is usually a divorce happens when both the people are > equally egotistc and refuse to comprpomise. For that 1st and 7th must > be equally strong. Isnt it? Or is it the other wise? If they are of > equal strength, both of them will get along well?? In my observation > marriages (even though there may not be any chemistry) do not end in > a divorce if one is submissive to the dominating person. I would like > to know as per KAS, what have you observed in divorce charts. Major > difference between the bindus in 1st and 7th or no major difference? > > Regards, > Jyothi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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