Guest guest Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 See what the Goel sab is claiming? 57 seconds of arc i.e. less than 1' can be so vittal! If so what is the proof for the Citra-ayanamsa which differs from other values like Raman +1deg:27min and -43 min 35 secs with the value I give on the basis of sound mathematical evidence and tantrik rationale. How the Citra Zodiac is Kalapurusha? , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote:>> Dear Subbu and other Friends,> Mutual angular distance among the planets and also visa-vis Ascendant remain unaltered with different values of ayanamsa..But on account of different value of Ayanamsa.,> the zodiacal degrees shown in the nativity will change.Consequently, planets can conjoin on same degree or may fall in adjacent degree, depending on Ayanamsa value.> ( but their mutual distance will not vary)> Now the mute point for Char Karka replacement is:> 1 Should the planet be on same degree> 2 Should the angular distance among the planets be within one degree> As Both Bphs and Jamini Updesha Sutra do not give guidance on the exact location of initial point of the > sidereal zodiac, our guide and guru Pt. Sanjay Rath can only show us the correct path on this complex issue.> My humble suggestion is :> 1. In ancient past , it was not possible to pin point the location of V. E.point on the zodiac. Ayanamsa used in > Lahiri Ephemeris needs slight modification , as it is based on V.E.point of 285 A.D.> 2.Our Ayanamsa should be directly linked with star Citra ( As to my understanding , there could not be any other way but to > have a reference w.r.t. a star)> In present years , value of Ayanamsa adopted by Lahiri Ephemeris is to be reduced by 57" ,enabling us to obtain Cita Paksa AYANAMSA.> Lahiri has never said that ayanamsa adopted in his Ephemeris is Citra Pakcha , but gives the basis of his calculations on page '5' of the Ephemeris.> J,S.hora software also does not call it Citra Pakcha.> If ,we choose a star as reference point , it will be definitely more reliable and dependable reference, more so free from controversies.> If the planets falling on same degree . can only qualify for Char Karka replacement , the difference of 57" can prove vital in some cases.> I have horoscope of a female artist , having AK and AMK on different degree with citra ayanamsa but on same degree on Lahiri ayanamsa.> There is no change in her professional carrier since beginning. Citra AYANAMSA seems to have some merit.Birth details are:> JULY 1, 1958 ; 01.04 A.M.,IST , T,Z 5.30 hrs, 72E37; 23N02> Regards,> > G.K.GOEL> Ph: 09350311433> Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR> NEW DELHI-110 076> INDIA> > > Bring your gang together - do your thing. Go to http://in.promos./groups> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 The bigger problem is the accuracy of the birth times we get. There could be easily 5-10 minutes of error while recording the birth time itself, given the fact that one one knows that which event qualifies to be called as 'birth'. Even our seers or not unanimous on this matter. Regards, Krishna K Chandra Hari <chandrahari81 wrote: See what the Goel sab is claiming? 57 seconds of arc i.e. less than 1' can be so vittal! If so what is the proof for the Citra-ayanamsa which differs from other values like Raman +1deg:27min and -43 min 35 secs with the value I give on the basis of sound mathematical evidence and tantrik rationale. How the Citra Zodiac is Kalapurusha? , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote:>> Dear Subbu and other Friends,> Mutual angular distance among the planets and also visa-vis Ascendant remain unaltered with different values of ayanamsa..But on account of different value of Ayanamsa.,> the zodiacal degrees shown in the nativity will change.Consequently, planets can conjoin on same degree or may fall in adjacent degree, depending on Ayanamsa value.> ( but their mutual distance will not vary)> Now the mute point for Char Karka replacement is:> 1 Should the planet be on same degree> 2 Should the angular distance among the planets be within one degree> As Both Bphs and Jamini Updesha Sutra do not give guidance on the exact location of initial point of the > sidereal zodiac, our guide and guru Pt. Sanjay Rath can only show us the correct path on this complex issue.> My humble suggestion is :> 1. In ancient past , it was not possible to pin point the location of V. E.point on the zodiac. Ayanamsa used in > Lahiri Ephemeris needs slight modification , as it is based on V.E.point of 285 A.D.> 2.Our Ayanamsa should be directly linked with star Citra ( As to my understanding , there could not be any other way but to > have a reference w.r.t. a star)> In present years , value of Ayanamsa adopted by Lahiri Ephemeris is to be reduced by 57" ,enabling us to obtain Cita Paksa AYANAMSA.> Lahiri has never said that ayanamsa adopted in his Ephemeris is Citra Pakcha , but gives the basis of his calculations on page '5' of the Ephemeris.> J,S.hora software also does not call it Citra Pakcha.> If ,we choose a star as reference point , it will be definitely more reliable and dependable reference, more so free from controversies.> If the planets falling on same degree . can only qualify for Char Karka replacement , the difference of 57" can prove vital in some cases.> I have horoscope of a female artist , having AK and AMK on different degree with citra ayanamsa but on same degree on Lahiri ayanamsa.> There is no change in her professional carrier since beginning. Citra AYANAMSA seems to have some merit.Birth details are:> JULY 1, 1958 ; 01.04 A.M.,IST , T,Z 5.30 hrs, 72E37; 23N02> Regards,> > G.K.GOEL> Ph: 09350311433> Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR> NEW DELHI-110 076> INDIA> > > Bring your gang together - do your thing. Go to http://in.promos./groups> Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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