Blind chart reading - Quiz - Let us laugh at the cowards as well.. :)

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Dear All,

* I use this occasion

also to laugh at the people who where boasting about numerous methodologies and

ran away when it came to real test - fearing even to attempt. ) You know

the names and so I don't have to tell. I am companionate towards

those cowards - poor guys - I feel you too may feel the same.

* They don't know how to walk and boast they can fly!!

They don't dare to fall, and do you believe they will ever learn to walk?

* Ooosh...! Poor kids..! Don't worry...Run away when the test

comes, try to act gurus when there is no real struggle - and harvest the

carrier and mony - mamma taught you this trick or what? )

 

 

 

 

If I am

not saying this, it won't be sincerity from my part - so just expressing the

feeling.

 

Anyway thanks to even those who hide their faces as well

- because they teach us what methods to follow - means - don't

follow their methods... lol..

Let us all together correct our basics learn the merits and

demerits of our approaches and LEARN from experience.

Love,

Sreenadh

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The blind chart reading is a good test of our understanding of

principles - Because if we can apply the principles to past happenings

and validate the principles - we can then use it for refining our

prediction skills

 

In post-mortem it is very easy to give reasons - One can find lots of

good things knowing it is SAchin Tendulkar's horoscope, one can

rectify Bill Gates' birth time till it becomes great

 

Looking forward to more such quizzes so that we all refine our

understanding and learn

 

, " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear All,

> * I use this occasion also to laugh at the people who where boasting

> about numerous methodologies and ran away when it came to real test -

> fearing even to attempt. ) You know the names and so I don't have to

> tell. I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I feel

> you too may feel the same.

> * They don't know how to walk and boast they can fly!! They don't

> dare to fall, and do you believe they will ever learn to walk?

> * Ooosh...! Poor kids..! Don't worry...Run away when the test comes,

> try to act gurus when there is no real struggle - and harvest the

> carrier and mony - mamma taught you this trick or what? )

>

>

> If I am not saying this, it won't be sincerity from my part - so

just

> expressing the feeling.

>

> Anyway thanks to even those who hide their faces as well -

because

> they teach us what methods to follow - means - don't follow their

> methods... lol..

> Let us all together correct our basics learn the merits and

demerits

> of our approaches and LEARN from experience.

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

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Yes that another part of the story... Many many many prominent learned scholar did not participate cause some of them having their exams and some of them were sick.. It was not appropriate to use "laughing" term for these people. Thanks jagdishFinn Wandahl <finn.wandahl wrote: Dear Sreenadh,>>..I use this occasion also to laugh at the people who where boastingabout numerous methodologies and ran away when it came to real

test -fearing even to attempt. ) You know the names and so I don't have totell. I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I feel> you too may feel the same. ...<<I for one, do not take any pleasure in laughing at and publiclyinsulting respectable scholars like Mr. G.K. Goel, Mr. Ramadas Rao andMr. Chandra Hari. On the contrary, reading this message of yours, gaveme a sick feeling in the stomach. This is simply beyond limit.I find it completely unacceptable that you call these respectableastrologers cowards in public. They have every right to decide forthemselves if they want to participate in a competition like thiswithout being insulted afterwards. You, on the other hand, haveabsolutely no right what so ever to judge their decision and call themcowards. Shame on you!Finn Wandahl I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I feel> you too may

feel the same. , "Sreenadh"<sreesog wrote:>> Dear All,> * I use this occasion also to laugh at the people who where boasting> about numerous methodologies and ran away when it came to real test -> fearing even to attempt. ) You know the names and so I don't have to> tell. I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I feel> you too may feel the same. > * They don't know how to walk and boast they can fly!! They don't> dare to fall, and do you believe they will ever learn to walk?> * Ooosh...! Poor kids..! Don't worry...Run away when the test comes,> try to act gurus when there is no real struggle - and harvest the> carrier and mony - mamma taught you this trick or what? )> > > If I am not saying

this, it won't be sincerity from my part - sojust> expressing the feeling. > > Anyway thanks to even those who hide their faces as well - because > they teach us what methods to follow - means - don't follow their> methods... lol.. > Let us all together correct our basics learn the merits anddemerits> of our approaches and LEARN from experience.> Love,> Sreenadh>

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Dear finn ji ,

 

I appreciate your concern .

But how can we see that some systems are working or not ,when always some ppl make lot of noice abt thier system and practicaly they not participating in forums .

So this shud giv some idea to future students or serious hobbyists which is a dependable system .Is it not >otherwise 1000s of new thereys will blossom and what will be the burden of future students .

Here some ppl predicted more or less with ancint indian astro methods .

Not any one who claims lal kitab ,or this system or that system tho many advocates r there in grp ,still shied away .

I hope in future they may hav more time and health to participate in chart readings .

We all know that in blind readings ,since u r not atleast seeing the persons readins may go off the mark .

Also even rishis said abt desa ,kala ,paristiti .

 

regrds Vijayaraghavan guruvayur.

 

, "Finn Wandahl" <finn.wandahl wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh,> > >>..I use this occasion also to laugh at the people who where boasting> about numerous methodologies and ran away when it came to real test -> fearing even to attempt. ) You know the names and so I don't have to> tell. I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I feel> > you too may feel the same. ...<<> > > I for one, do not take any pleasure in laughing at and publicly> insulting respectable scholars like Mr. G.K. Goel, Mr. Ramadas Rao and> Mr. Chandra Hari. On the contrary, reading this message of yours, gave> me a sick feeling in the stomach. This is simply beyond limit.> > I find it completely unacceptable that you call these respectable> astrologers cowards in public. They have every right to decide for> themselves if they want to participate in a competition like this> without being insulted afterwards. You, on the other hand, have> absolutely no right what so ever to judge their decision and call them> cowards. > > Shame on you!> > Finn Wandahl > > > > I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I feel> > you too may feel the same. > > , "Sreenadh"> sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear All,> > * I use this occasion also to laugh at the people who where boasting> > about numerous methodologies and ran away when it came to real test -> > fearing even to attempt. ) You know the names and so I don't have to> > tell. I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I feel> > you too may feel the same. > > * They don't know how to walk and boast they can fly!! They don't> > dare to fall, and do you believe they will ever learn to walk?> > * Ooosh...! Poor kids..! Don't worry...Run away when the test comes,> > try to act gurus when there is no real struggle - and harvest the> > carrier and mony - mamma taught you this trick or what? )> > > > > > If I am not saying this, it won't be sincerity from my part - so> just> > expressing the feeling. > > > > Anyway thanks to even those who hide their faces as well - > because > > they teach us what methods to follow - means - don't follow their> > methods... lol.. > > Let us all together correct our basics learn the merits and> demerits> > of our approaches and LEARN from experience.> > Love,> > Sreenadh> >>

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Dear Sreenadh,

 

I am really inspired by the correct reading that Durga made of the blind

Quiz. May be the real Durga has appeared in disguise. Oohapohapatuh

siddhamantro janati jatakam. So we have in Durga a great mind and

intellect combined with mantra siddhi.

 

I did not practice any such mantra or gain any such kind of siddhi as to

answer a blind quiz correctly. So sometimes I feel that I am a coward -

a man failed to utilize the opportunities he had.

 

The piece of wisdom for which I appreciate Sri KN Rao is the account he

gave of Moorkhananda Svamiji. The name Moorkhananda meant 'One who

failed to keep his resolutions' . I always considered myself one such

guy - a man who rejoice at his cowardice.

 

In the blind quiz, no body gave any correct timings. May be people had

doubts on the accuracy of birth time and so none discussed the navamsa

or dasamsa correctly. Without knowing the profession, how could anybody

ascertain the Dasamsa Lagna. Whether the native was a Sannyasi or a

laukika also the chart gives no simple answer. Classical principles are

in conflict in the case of the chart you gave.

 

When facing destiny, we are all cowards. I am not offended by your

words. In fact I am happy that you gave the right description. We all

become fools, cowards... depending on time and circumstances. All the

so called modern tools discovered in astrology are expressions of

Chitta-Bhramam. Ambition driving paranoic guys to perpetuate their

names. Sri KN Rao, BV Raman etc are best example. See the AM collapsed

- think of the fate of the moral preachings they have been making, Vastu

with which people were exploited. Now the Rao & co will also

collapse... Let's not worship such idols - break all these idols and

leave their pseudoscience asde to discover the truth of Jyotisha.

 

When we realize that we are cowards, the door is opened for wisdom.

Let's realize that we are cowards instead of selfstyled Gurus and

Mihiras and try to learn the great science.

 

chandra hari

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Finn Wandahl "

<finn.wandahl wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadh,

>

> >>..I use this occasion also to laugh at the people who where boasting

> about numerous methodologies and ran away when it came to real test -

> fearing even to attempt. ) You know the names and so I don't have to

> tell. I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I feel

> > you too may feel the same. ...<<

>

>

> I for one, do not take any pleasure in laughing at and publicly

> insulting respectable scholars like Mr. G.K. Goel, Mr. Ramadas Rao and

> Mr. Chandra Hari. On the contrary, reading this message of yours, gave

> me a sick feeling in the stomach. This is simply beyond limit.

>

> I find it completely unacceptable that you call these respectable

> astrologers cowards in public. They have every right to decide for

> themselves if they want to participate in a competition like this

> without being insulted afterwards. You, on the other hand, have

> absolutely no right what so ever to judge their decision and call them

> cowards.

>

> Shame on you!

>

> Finn Wandahl

>

>

>

> I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I feel

> > you too may feel the same.

>

> , " Sreenadh "

> sreesog@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> > * I use this occasion also to laugh at the people who where boasting

> > about numerous methodologies and ran away when it came to real test

-

> > fearing even to attempt. ) You know the names and so I don't have

to

> > tell. I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I

feel

> > you too may feel the same.

> > * They don't know how to walk and boast they can fly!! They don't

> > dare to fall, and do you believe they will ever learn to walk?

> > * Ooosh...! Poor kids..! Don't worry...Run away when the test comes,

> > try to act gurus when there is no real struggle - and harvest the

> > carrier and mony - mamma taught you this trick or what? )

> >

> >

> > If I am not saying this, it won't be sincerity from my part - so

> just

> > expressing the feeling.

> >

> > Anyway thanks to even those who hide their faces as well -

> because

> > they teach us what methods to follow - means - don't follow their

> > methods... lol..

> > Let us all together correct our basics learn the merits and

> demerits

> > of our approaches and LEARN from experience.

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

>

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Finnji,I disagree with you:1. Sreenadhji has done much for this forum - with his uploads on principles - he has greatly enhanced all our learning.If you see other forums: there has been very little effort on enhancing learning of group2. Sreenadhji has taken great pains to do this exercise - and enhance learning of group. It is duty of all participants to try and participate in the exercise. If all these D-2 to D-300 are useful, why don't the preachers show its credibility to us in the blind chart exercises?3. Astrology cannot be abt using planets for convenience. Do everything post-mortem - it must be predictive and predict with close to 90% accuracy based on principles - one can guess with 50% accuracy when htere are two chances.Finnji, I have respect for you and your views - but throwing mud on Sreenadhji is unacceptable for us - Let all folks apply their principles and enhance learning of the

groupRegardsKiranFinn Wandahl <finn.wandahl wrote: Dear Sreenadh, >>..I use this occasion also to laugh at the people who where boasting about numerous methodologies and ran away when it came to real test - fearing even to attempt. ) You know the names and so I don't have to tell. I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I feel > you too may feel the same. ...<< I for one, do not take any pleasure in laughing at and publicly insulting respectable scholars like Mr. G.K.

Goel, Mr. Ramadas Rao and Mr. Chandra Hari. On the contrary, reading this message of yours, gave me a sick feeling in the stomach. This is simply beyond limit. I find it completely unacceptable that you call these respectable astrologers cowards in public. They have every right to decide for themselves if they want to participate in a competition like this without being insulted afterwards. You, on the other hand, have absolutely no right what so ever to judge their decision and call them cowards. Shame on you! Finn Wandahl I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I feel > you too may feel the same. , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote: > > Dear All, > * I use this occasion also to laugh at the people who where

boasting > about numerous methodologies and ran away when it came to real test - > fearing even to attempt. ) You know the names and so I don't have to > tell. I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I feel > you too may feel the same. > * They don't know how to walk and boast they can fly!! They don't > dare to fall, and do you believe they will ever learn to walk? > * Ooosh...! Poor kids..! Don't worry...Run away when the test comes, > try to act gurus when there is no real struggle - and harvest the > carrier and mony - mamma taught you this trick or what? ) > > > If I am not saying this, it won't be sincerity from my part - so just > expressing the feeling. > > Anyway thanks to even those who hide their faces as well - because > they teach us what methods to follow - means - don't follow their

> methods... lol.. > Let us all together correct our basics learn the merits and demerits > of our approaches and LEARN from experience. > Love, > Sreenadh >

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Dear Memebers, I am just a silent observer and I am finding great things happening in this forum whereas in others just chart reading, please help me mails etc., occupying the members too busy there. First of all, I am very glad to see learned members coming forward and sharing their thoughts and their graceness in accepting any failures and showing great attitude towardings learning in this big ocean of astrology. The exercise done by Sreenadh ji has helped this forum in many ways. 1. For novice like me, I get to know how professionals approach when they are given a problem. I am able to see what modeling these learned members are using so that I need not repeat the whole process again whatever the learned members went through. The learning is made in leap and bounds. Thank you so much for this to all the learned memebers. 2. The entire attitude of this forum is very very positive where in

others it is usually ego clash. People are coming forward and sharing their views openly without worrying about whether it could be right or wrong. That is what most needed to learn from all educated members. 3. It gave many paradigm shift to many learned members too. Till now they might have thought their process might be good enough. But this exercise has rekindled their paradigm and to look at others methodologies what they do. So it creates the basic openness state of mind to LISTEN to others views otherwise which is blocked by ego and stubborn mindset that my view is correct. Until a paradigm shift happens, nobody will agree to others views. So this exercise made the paradigm shift to everybody whoever participated and not participated. 4. I highly appreciate Sreenadh ji's relentless interest in sharing and spending so much of his time for others and maintaining this beatiful group. I have a humble request to Sreenadh ji too.

Being the primary moderator for this group, I request you dont be so much direct in words in pointing out if others made any mistake:-). I usually love this way since it directly enters in to my mind. But for most people will take it as hurt. You have done a lots and lots of hard work to make this group to become this much wonderful stage. Its your duty to maintain this integrated as ever. I am sure this exercise might have created so much interested in non-participated members too and they might have joined in the next exercise:-). Probably they might have been little reluctant whether the readings will be taken so much personal and hence decided not to participate. After seeing how things were taken, they would have participated too. Also sometimes it takes little more time to make that PARADIGM SHIFT to happen. Please let them take their own time. I am sure by sheer enthusiasm shown by this group will make them feel comfortable and all will become very open and

direct. I am just telling this with great care towards our group since I am seeing how much hard work you are putting to the group and I would like to see your vision should be fullfilled in this group. Thanks a lot for all the learned members for sharing the knowledge for which you took so much pain to gather and happily giving them with sheer joy. Kudos to this great forum. Regards, VinayKiran R <kiran.rama wrote: Finnji,I disagree with

you:1. Sreenadhji has done much for this forum - with his uploads on principles - he has greatly enhanced all our learning.If you see other forums: there has been very little effort on enhancing learning of group2. Sreenadhji has taken great pains to do this exercise - and enhance learning of group. It is duty of all participants to try and participate in the exercise. If all these D-2 to D-300 are useful, why don't the preachers show its credibility to us in the blind chart exercises?3. Astrology cannot be abt using planets for convenience. Do everything post-mortem - it must be predictive and predict with close to 90% accuracy based on principles - one can guess with 50% accuracy when htere are two chances.Finnji, I have respect for you and your views - but throwing mud on Sreenadhji is unacceptable for us - Let all folks apply their principles and enhance learning of the groupRegardsKiranFinn Wandahl

<finn.wandahl (AT) mail (DOT) dk> wrote: Dear Sreenadh,>>..I use this occasion also to laugh at the people who where boastingabout numerous methodologies and ran away when it came to real test -fearing even to attempt. ) You know the names and so I don't have totell. I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I feel> you too may feel the same. ...<<I for one, do not take any pleasure in laughing at and publiclyinsulting respectable scholars like Mr. G.K. Goel, Mr. Ramadas Rao andMr. Chandra Hari. On the contrary, reading this message of yours, gaveme a sick feeling in the stomach. This is simply beyond limit.I find it completely unacceptable that you call these respectableastrologers cowards in public. They have every right to decide forthemselves if they want to participate

in a competition like thiswithout being insulted afterwards. You, on the other hand, haveabsolutely no right what so ever to judge their decision and call themcowards. Shame on you!Finn Wandahl I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I feel> you too may feel the same. , "Sreenadh"<sreesog wrote:>> Dear All,> * I use this occasion also to laugh at the people who where boasting> about numerous methodologies and ran away when it came to real test -> fearing even to attempt. ) You know the names and so I don't have to> tell. I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I feel> you too may feel the same. > * They don't know how to walk and boast they can fly!! They don't> dare to fall, and

do you believe they will ever learn to walk?> * Ooosh...! Poor kids..! Don't worry...Run away when the test comes,> try to act gurus when there is no real struggle - and harvest the> carrier and mony - mamma taught you this trick or what? )> > > If I am not saying this, it won't be sincerity from my part - sojust> expressing the feeling. > > Anyway thanks to even those who hide their faces as well - because > they teach us what methods to follow - means - don't follow their> methods... lol.. > Let us all together correct our basics learn the merits anddemerits> of our approaches and LEARN from experience.> Love,> Sreenadh> Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required.

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Dear Chandrahari ji,

I appreciate your sincerity towards astrology and research to the

roots of this divine knowledge branch, advised by the sages.

It is not only you but I am also a coward - especially in boldly

approaching a horoscope. Yes, when facing destiny, (then too) we are

all cowards. But as you rightly said - " When we realize that we are

cowards, the door is opened for wisdom " . Yes, when we realize this

boldly we can start from the basics - from ABCD, to rebuild and

understand this great knowledge branch in a better way.

Thanks for the inspiring words.

Love and Hugs,

Sreenadh

 

, " K Chandra Hari "

<chandrahari81 wrote:

>

>

> Dear Sreenadh,

>

> I am really inspired by the correct reading that Durga made of the blind

> Quiz. May be the real Durga has appeared in disguise. Oohapohapatuh

> siddhamantro janati jatakam. So we have in Durga a great mind and

> intellect combined with mantra siddhi.

>

> I did not practice any such mantra or gain any such kind of siddhi as to

> answer a blind quiz correctly. So sometimes I feel that I am a coward -

> a man failed to utilize the opportunities he had.

>

> The piece of wisdom for which I appreciate Sri KN Rao is the account he

> gave of Moorkhananda Svamiji. The name Moorkhananda meant 'One who

> failed to keep his resolutions' . I always considered myself one such

> guy - a man who rejoice at his cowardice.

>

> In the blind quiz, no body gave any correct timings. May be people had

> doubts on the accuracy of birth time and so none discussed the navamsa

> or dasamsa correctly. Without knowing the profession, how could anybody

> ascertain the Dasamsa Lagna. Whether the native was a Sannyasi or a

> laukika also the chart gives no simple answer. Classical principles are

> in conflict in the case of the chart you gave.

>

> When facing destiny, we are all cowards. I am not offended by your

> words. In fact I am happy that you gave the right description. We all

> become fools, cowards... depending on time and circumstances. All the

> so called modern tools discovered in astrology are expressions of

> Chitta-Bhramam. Ambition driving paranoic guys to perpetuate their

> names. Sri KN Rao, BV Raman etc are best example. See the AM collapsed

> - think of the fate of the moral preachings they have been making, Vastu

> with which people were exploited. Now the Rao & co will also

> collapse... Let's not worship such idols - break all these idols and

> leave their pseudoscience asde to discover the truth of Jyotisha.

>

> When we realize that we are cowards, the door is opened for wisdom.

> Let's realize that we are cowards instead of selfstyled Gurus and

> Mihiras and try to learn the great science.

>

> chandra hari

>

>

, " Finn Wandahl "

> <finn.wandahl@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sreenadh,

> >

> > >>..I use this occasion also to laugh at the people who where boasting

> > about numerous methodologies and ran away when it came to real test -

> > fearing even to attempt. ) You know the names and so I don't have to

> > tell. I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I feel

> > > you too may feel the same. ...<<

> >

> >

> > I for one, do not take any pleasure in laughing at and publicly

> > insulting respectable scholars like Mr. G.K. Goel, Mr. Ramadas Rao and

> > Mr. Chandra Hari. On the contrary, reading this message of yours, gave

> > me a sick feeling in the stomach. This is simply beyond limit.

> >

> > I find it completely unacceptable that you call these respectable

> > astrologers cowards in public. They have every right to decide for

> > themselves if they want to participate in a competition like this

> > without being insulted afterwards. You, on the other hand, have

> > absolutely no right what so ever to judge their decision and call them

> > cowards.

> >

> > Shame on you!

> >

> > Finn Wandahl

> >

> >

> >

> > I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I feel

> > > you too may feel the same.

> >

> > , " Sreenadh "

> > sreesog@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > > * I use this occasion also to laugh at the people who where boasting

> > > about numerous methodologies and ran away when it came to real test

> -

> > > fearing even to attempt. ) You know the names and so I don't have

> to

> > > tell. I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I

> feel

> > > you too may feel the same.

> > > * They don't know how to walk and boast they can fly!! They don't

> > > dare to fall, and do you believe they will ever learn to walk?

> > > * Ooosh...! Poor kids..! Don't worry...Run away when the test comes,

> > > try to act gurus when there is no real struggle - and harvest the

> > > carrier and mony - mamma taught you this trick or what? )

> > >

> > >

> > > If I am not saying this, it won't be sincerity from my part - so

> > just

> > > expressing the feeling.

> > >

> > > Anyway thanks to even those who hide their faces as well -

> > because

> > > they teach us what methods to follow - means - don't follow their

> > > methods... lol..

> > > Let us all together correct our basics learn the merits and

> > demerits

> > > of our approaches and LEARN from experience.

> > > Love,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Shreenadh, Chandra Hariji,

 

I think we should all act like cowards when it comes to making

astrological predictions. Astrology in the present day remains an

imperfect discipline. There are no perfect models of probability in

astrology, be it ancient indian astrology, or any other astrology.

Even though it is impossible to be 100 per cent correct all the

time; even being 50 per cent correct 100 per cent of the times may

be a difficult task when it comes to specific dates and perdiods.

Even the best astrologers may fail.

 

So where does all this lead us?

 

Are we seeking to get to truth through astrology....or truth is far

beyond and bigger than astrology??? Somehow, i feel disillusioned

with astrology even though i am one with you in my appreciation of

Durgaji's prediction.

 

So far as past is concerned it is over and done with....and in some

sense dead. So far as future is concerned a lot depends upon us. But

it is the present in which all of us should live, isn't it?

 

So say the sages.

 

Where is the role of astrology in search for truth???(which i

believe most of us are after?!)

 

So should astrology be for entertainment, quizes,....or just a

pursuit of knowledge....which may not necessarily lead us to truth?

 

In the above circumstances if some kept away from participation in

quiz they may be very sane rather than cowards, isn't

it!!!!????:):):)

 

Love,

 

vinita

 

 

, " K Chandra Hari "

<chandrahari81 wrote:

>

>

> Dear Sreenadh,

>

> I am really inspired by the correct reading that Durga made of the

blind

> Quiz. May be the real Durga has appeared in disguise.

Oohapohapatuh

> siddhamantro janati jatakam. So we have in Durga a great mind and

> intellect combined with mantra siddhi.

>

> I did not practice any such mantra or gain any such kind of siddhi

as to

> answer a blind quiz correctly. So sometimes I feel that I am a

coward -

> a man failed to utilize the opportunities he had.

>

> The piece of wisdom for which I appreciate Sri KN Rao is the

account he

> gave of Moorkhananda Svamiji. The name Moorkhananda meant 'One who

> failed to keep his resolutions' . I always considered myself one

such

> guy - a man who rejoice at his cowardice.

>

> In the blind quiz, no body gave any correct timings. May be people

had

> doubts on the accuracy of birth time and so none discussed the

navamsa

> or dasamsa correctly. Without knowing the profession, how could

anybody

> ascertain the Dasamsa Lagna. Whether the native was a Sannyasi or a

> laukika also the chart gives no simple answer. Classical

principles are

> in conflict in the case of the chart you gave.

>

> When facing destiny, we are all cowards. I am not offended by your

> words. In fact I am happy that you gave the right description. We

all

> become fools, cowards... depending on time and circumstances. All

the

> so called modern tools discovered in astrology are expressions of

> Chitta-Bhramam. Ambition driving paranoic guys to perpetuate their

> names. Sri KN Rao, BV Raman etc are best example. See the AM

collapsed

> - think of the fate of the moral preachings they have been making,

Vastu

> with which people were exploited. Now the Rao & co will also

> collapse... Let's not worship such idols - break all these idols

and

> leave their pseudoscience asde to discover the truth of Jyotisha.

>

> When we realize that we are cowards, the door is opened for

wisdom.

> Let's realize that we are cowards instead of selfstyled Gurus and

> Mihiras and try to learn the great science.

>

> chandra hari

>

>

, " Finn Wandahl "

> <finn.wandahl@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sreenadh,

> >

> > >>..I use this occasion also to laugh at the people who where

boasting

> > about numerous methodologies and ran away when it came to real

test -

> > fearing even to attempt. ) You know the names and so I don't

have to

> > tell. I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I

feel

> > > you too may feel the same. ...<<

> >

> >

> > I for one, do not take any pleasure in laughing at and publicly

> > insulting respectable scholars like Mr. G.K. Goel, Mr. Ramadas

Rao and

> > Mr. Chandra Hari. On the contrary, reading this message of

yours, gave

> > me a sick feeling in the stomach. This is simply beyond limit.

> >

> > I find it completely unacceptable that you call these respectable

> > astrologers cowards in public. They have every right to decide

for

> > themselves if they want to participate in a competition like this

> > without being insulted afterwards. You, on the other hand, have

> > absolutely no right what so ever to judge their decision and

call them

> > cowards.

> >

> > Shame on you!

> >

> > Finn Wandahl

> >

> >

> >

> > I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I feel

> > > you too may feel the same.

> >

> > , " Sreenadh "

> > sreesog@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > > * I use this occasion also to laugh at the people who where

boasting

> > > about numerous methodologies and ran away when it came to real

test

> -

> > > fearing even to attempt. ) You know the names and so I don't

have

> to

> > > tell. I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys -

I

> feel

> > > you too may feel the same.

> > > * They don't know how to walk and boast they can fly!! They

don't

> > > dare to fall, and do you believe they will ever learn to walk?

> > > * Ooosh...! Poor kids..! Don't worry...Run away when the test

comes,

> > > try to act gurus when there is no real struggle - and harvest

the

> > > carrier and mony - mamma taught you this trick or what? )

> > >

> > >

> > > If I am not saying this, it won't be sincerity from my part -

so

> > just

> > > expressing the feeling.

> > >

> > > Anyway thanks to even those who hide their faces as well -

> > because

> > > they teach us what methods to follow - means - don't follow

their

> > > methods... lol..

> > > Let us all together correct our basics learn the merits and

> > demerits

> > > of our approaches and LEARN from experience.

> > > Love,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Finn ji,

First of all - I appreciate you for expressing your feelings

sincerely. Now coming to the points mentioned by you (such as laughing

at Goel ji, Rao ji, Hari ji etc as worded by yo)-

* Clearly understand that NOBODY is laughing at any individual or

insulting any individual - taking things personally is a WRONG

APPROACH. As once Chandrahari ji puts it " sentiments does not have any

value in sincere research " . The laughing is at the approach and

baseless arguments and NOT at the individuals - KNOW it clearly.

Now coming to the comments on individuals -

* I appreciate and has good respect for Goel ji for his general

awareness and knowledge - but certainly not towards the approach he

took towards this exercise even with out an explanation. I am in

support of SINCERE approach towards astrology and not towards the FAKE

approach. I will continue to respect Goel ji for his knowledge and I

don't think even goel ji will disagree about the truthfulness of the

comments I made - If I am not mistaken in understanding Goel ji. He IS

SINCERE but yet there seems to be some binding strings.

* As of Chandra Hari ji, I have a great regard for him - which I

believe is clear to me, you, hari. He is a great scholar who did much

contribution to the cause of astrology, history and many other

subjects through his through and sincere research and published works.

Me and Hari are individuals who resonate to the thoughts of each

other and as such I don't think Hari will in any way misunderstand me.

Of course, he will not - and it is clear from one of his mails as

well. He know how to take things in the right spirit.

* As of Ramdas Rao ji - I don't know much about him and yet to see

much knowledge reflected in his mails. We are yet to have much

communication or sharing of knowledge - even though it is said that he

is a guru in SJC, because of which all of us may expect valuable

comments from him. I don't have anything personal against him as well

- and will respect his contributions as as when he presents the same,

or when I get in touch with his knowledge and awareness.

==>

> I find it completely unacceptable that you call these respectable

> astrologers cowards in public.

<==

I didn't named any member and as such the term used could only

considered as one used to mention the approach - i.e. cowardice - and

not the individuals. If you or any one else felt so - I apologize.

==>

> They have every right to decide for themselves if they want to

> participate in a competition like this without being insulted

> afterwards.

<==

Know that -

* It is NOT a competition, but only a LEARNING EXERSISE. There is a

great lot of difference between the two. Please don't assume a

learning experiment for a competition - that would be a mistake.

* No member who participated in the exercise got insulted but only

appreciated! Then why you are assuming that some one is insulting

somebody else?! We are all learning together and in such exercises it

is just natural to be either correct or wrong - what wonder is there

in it, or mentioning it? Tomorrow some one else may post a blind chart

and if I am attempting it, and bitterly fail, that is that an insult

to me? I don't think. There is all possibility that it will happen for

sure. In my experience - when I read 10 charts for sure, I used to

miss at least three - I don't feel that there is anything wrong in

accepting that. I am not worried about my name, fame or glamour, (I

don't have much) the only thing I am interested in is - how much such

exercises help me to identify the correct path, and learn from

experience of mine and others. I believe every true seeker of the

astrological wisdom may prefer a similar approach.

* Thus every true participants gets appreciated - and it is an

honor to be part of a group (here 15 scholars who attempted the quiz)

and share and learn from their knowledge. I am much thankful to Durga

ji for the reading she gave in the previous exercise - because it was

an eye opener. I will comment on her mail - and share some points I

noticed/learned from her mail, in another post. If not such an

exercise was there - do you think we could have identified such an

individual present in our group?

* So be practical – we are all students and we are all friends – and

this is a discussion group to share knowledge. The mails like the one

I posted are just simple tactics to bring out the knowledgeable and

make them participate in the exercises, so that we can learn from

them. Know it as a fact.

Hope all these helps.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

 

, " Finn Wandahl "

<finn.wandahl wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadh,

>

> >>..I use this occasion also to laugh at the people who where boasting

> about numerous methodologies and ran away when it came to real test -

> fearing even to attempt. ) You know the names and so I don't have to

> tell. I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I feel

> > you too may feel the same. ...<<

>

>

> I for one, do not take any pleasure in laughing at and publicly

> insulting respectable scholars like Mr. G.K. Goel, Mr. Ramadas Rao and

> Mr. Chandra Hari. On the contrary, reading this message of yours, gave

> me a sick feeling in the stomach. This is simply beyond limit.

>

> I find it completely unacceptable that you call these respectable

> astrologers cowards in public. They have every right to decide for

> themselves if they want to participate in a competition like this

> without being insulted afterwards. You, on the other hand, have

> absolutely no right what so ever to judge their decision and call them

> cowards.

>

> Shame on you!

>

> Finn Wandahl

>

>

>

> I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I feel

> > you too may feel the same.

>

> , " Sreenadh "

> <sreesog@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> > * I use this occasion also to laugh at the people who where

boasting

> > about numerous methodologies and ran away when it came to real test -

> > fearing even to attempt. ) You know the names and so I don't have to

> > tell. I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I

feel

> > you too may feel the same.

> > * They don't know how to walk and boast they can fly!! They

don't

> > dare to fall, and do you believe they will ever learn to walk?

> > * Ooosh...! Poor kids..! Don't worry...Run away when the test

comes,

> > try to act gurus when there is no real struggle - and harvest the

> > carrier and mony - mamma taught you this trick or what? )

> >

> >

> > If I am not saying this, it won't be sincerity from my part - so

> just

> > expressing the feeling.

> >

> > Anyway thanks to even those who hide their faces as well -

> because

> > they teach us what methods to follow - means - don't follow their

> > methods... lol..

> > Let us all together correct our basics learn the merits and

> demerits

> > of our approaches and LEARN from experience.

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear friend,

We are living in a society where the blind pats the blind and shamelessly wear the mantle of Gods. All such evils errupt may be as a time phenomenon when the society degenerates. So the sign of the times is within us - in our unscrupulous living.

Jyotisha - its real use in life, especially in the spiritual progress can only be realized by the individual. Like other Sastras, Jyotisha too evolved from the Tantrik tradition and so the realization of its truth is individual oriented. Zodiac itself is the mathemtical expression of the experience of the Cosmos by Tantriks.

How that experience can be regained or utilized for grace by common Man is the topic of Jyotisha. What Jyotisha can contribute to achieve the experience of the Cosmos within? How Jyotisha can be used to experience that Sun is the soul, Moon is the mind..?

Remember, Surya is Pranasurya within us. So we have our breath tuned to the Sun. But under which computation this correlation between our breath and sun can be realized?

Remember the following question and contemplate over it:

Katham amoorthasya kalasya murttitvam uchyate?

How the incomprehensisble time is credited with a limb structure in the Heavens?

It is from the Tantrik breathing the Sastras evolved, especially Jyotisha. Music came later. Perhaps the first manifestation of Siva-svara is Ganita and then Sangitam emerged. Tune your breathing to Sun and then you will realize that there is only one being (micro+macrocosm) in the Universe and its breath is Sun. Once you find yourself merged with the Sun and the Universe, you will become Brahma. It is one of the Tattvas to be realized. Once that is realized, you can transcend that by Yoga.

Yogi is one who is capable of that Sava_asana. Sit over the Brahma_pretam and then you will enter the world of Maya, Mohini and Vishnu. Above that is the world of Rudra, Isvara and Lalita etc.

In this path at some stage the knowledge of Jyotisha is required and that is why it got incorporated as the eye of all knowledge. All real understanding follows only when man is devoid of the ego. As long as ego is there Chitttavrtti shall continue to exercise control like a software and Man will be an automated machine of Maya.

chandra hari

chandra hari

 

, "vinita kumar" <shankar_mamta wrote:>> Dear Shreenadh, Chandra Hariji,> > I think we should all act like cowards when it comes to making > astrological predictions. Astrology in the present day remains an > imperfect discipline. There are no perfect models of probability in > astrology, be it ancient indian astrology, or any other astrology. > Even though it is impossible to be 100 per cent correct all the > time; even being 50 per cent correct 100 per cent of the times may > be a difficult task when it comes to specific dates and perdiods. > Even the best astrologers may fail.> > So where does all this lead us?> > Are we seeking to get to truth through astrology....or truth is far > beyond and bigger than astrology??? Somehow, i feel disillusioned > with astrology even though i am one with you in my appreciation of > Durgaji's prediction.> > So far as past is concerned it is over and done with....and in some > sense dead. So far as future is concerned a lot depends upon us. But > it is the present in which all of us should live, isn't it? > > So say the sages.> > Where is the role of astrology in search for truth???(which i > believe most of us are after?!)> > So should astrology be for entertainment, quizes,....or just a > pursuit of knowledge....which may not necessarily lead us to truth?> > In the above circumstances if some kept away from participation in > quiz they may be very sane rather than cowards, isn't > it!!!!????:):):)> > Love,> > vinita > > > , "K Chandra Hari" > chandrahari81@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Sreenadh,> > > > I am really inspired by the correct reading that Durga made of the > blind> > Quiz. May be the real Durga has appeared in disguise. > Oohapohapatuh> > siddhamantro janati jatakam. So we have in Durga a great mind and> > intellect combined with mantra siddhi.> > > > I did not practice any such mantra or gain any such kind of siddhi > as to> > answer a blind quiz correctly. So sometimes I feel that I am a > coward -> > a man failed to utilize the opportunities he had.> > > > The piece of wisdom for which I appreciate Sri KN Rao is the > account he> > gave of Moorkhananda Svamiji. The name Moorkhananda meant 'One who> > failed to keep his resolutions' . I always considered myself one > such> > guy - a man who rejoice at his cowardice.> > > > In the blind quiz, no body gave any correct timings. May be people > had> > doubts on the accuracy of birth time and so none discussed the > navamsa> > or dasamsa correctly. Without knowing the profession, how could > anybody> > ascertain the Dasamsa Lagna. Whether the native was a Sannyasi or a> > laukika also the chart gives no simple answer. Classical > principles are> > in conflict in the case of the chart you gave.> > > > When facing destiny, we are all cowards. I am not offended by your> > words. In fact I am happy that you gave the right description. We > all> > become fools, cowards... depending on time and circumstances. All > the> > so called modern tools discovered in astrology are expressions of> > Chitta-Bhramam. Ambition driving paranoic guys to perpetuate their> > names. Sri KN Rao, BV Raman etc are best example. See the AM > collapsed> > - think of the fate of the moral preachings they have been making, > Vastu> > with which people were exploited. Now the Rao & co will also> > collapse... Let's not worship such idols - break all these idols > and> > leave their pseudoscience asde to discover the truth of Jyotisha.> > > > When we realize that we are cowards, the door is opened for > wisdom. > > Let's realize that we are cowards instead of selfstyled Gurus and> > Mihiras and try to learn the great science.> > > > chandra hari> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Finn Wandahl"> > <finn.wandahl@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh,> > >> > > >>..I use this occasion also to laugh at the people who where > boasting> > > about numerous methodologies and ran away when it came to real > test -> > > fearing even to attempt. ) You know the names and so I don't > have to> > > tell. I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I > feel> > > > you too may feel the same. ...<<> > >> > >> > > I for one, do not take any pleasure in laughing at and publicly> > > insulting respectable scholars like Mr. G.K. Goel, Mr. Ramadas > Rao and> > > Mr. Chandra Hari. On the contrary, reading this message of > yours, gave> > > me a sick feeling in the stomach. This is simply beyond limit.> > >> > > I find it completely unacceptable that you call these respectable> > > astrologers cowards in public. They have every right to decide > for> > > themselves if they want to participate in a competition like this> > > without being insulted afterwards. You, on the other hand, have> > > absolutely no right what so ever to judge their decision and > call them> > > cowards.> > >> > > Shame on you!> > >> > > Finn Wandahl> > >> > >> > >> > > I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I feel> > > > you too may feel the same. > > >> > > , "Sreenadh"> > > sreesog@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear All,> > > > * I use this occasion also to laugh at the people who where > boasting> > > > about numerous methodologies and ran away when it came to real > test> > -> > > > fearing even to attempt. ) You know the names and so I don't > have> > to> > > > tell. I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - > I> > feel> > > > you too may feel the same. > > > > * They don't know how to walk and boast they can fly!! They > don't> > > > dare to fall, and do you believe they will ever learn to walk?> > > > * Ooosh...! Poor kids..! Don't worry...Run away when the test > comes,> > > > try to act gurus when there is no real struggle - and harvest > the> > > > carrier and mony - mamma taught you this trick or what? )> > > >> > > >> > > > If I am not saying this, it won't be sincerity from my part - > so> > > just> > > > expressing the feeling. > > > >> > > > Anyway thanks to even those who hide their faces as well -> > > because> > > > they teach us what methods to follow - means - don't follow > their> > > > methods... lol.. > > > > Let us all together correct our basics learn the merits and> > > demerits> > > > of our approaches and LEARN from experience.> > > > Love,> > > > Sreenadh> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Namaste Sreenadh

 

Must say I am disappointed to read such

statements – surely it is upto to individuals as to whether they wish to

participate or Not? Why insult them by calling them “cowards and laughing

at them”?

 

May I suggest in future that perhaps Quiz’s results are Only given on Sundays – thereby

giving everyone at least Saturday to make comments as one may not have had a

chance to participate during the week due to other commitments?

 

Regards …….

 

Jai Sita Ram

 

Ram

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Sreenadh

24 November 2007 14:25

 

Subject:

Re: Blind chart reading - Quiz - Let us laugh at the

cowards as well..

 

 

 

 

 

Dear All,

 

* I

use this occasion also to laugh at the people who where boasting about numerous

methodologies and ran away when it came to real test - fearing even to

attempt. ) You know the names and so I don't have to tell. I

am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I feel you too may feel the

same.

* They don't know how to walk and boast they can fly!!

They don't dare to fall, and do you believe they will ever learn to walk?

* Ooosh...! Poor kids..! Don't worry...Run away when the test

comes, try to act gurus when there is no real struggle - and harvest the

carrier and mony - mamma taught you this trick or what? )

 

 

 

If I am not saying this, it won't be sincerity from my part - so just

expressing the feeling.

 

Anyway thanks to even those who hide their faces as well

- because they teach us what methods to follow - means - don't

follow their methods... lol..

Let us all together correct our basics learn the merits and

demerits of our approaches and LEARN from experience.

Love,

Sreenadh

[Guest guest]

Good suggestion.

Captain is right in expecting all the team members to participate in the game. When the master players choose the gallery, game ceases to be vibrant.

Laugh may be only an awkward expression of inner anguish. I am really inspired by the time he threw into this game to thank everyone and in summing up the discussion.

Except God everyone is a coward. It's all relative and nothing to be sensitive and serious about.

His sense of humour went a bit astray...

c.hari

, "Ram Jaswal" <rkjaswal wrote:>> Namaste Sreenadh> > Must say I am disappointed to read such statements - surely it is upto to> individuals as to whether they wish to participate or Not? Why insult them> by calling them "cowards and laughing at them"?> > May I suggest in future that perhaps Quiz's results are Only given on> Sundays - thereby giving everyone at least Saturday to make comments as one> may not have had a chance to participate during the week due to other> commitments?> > Regards ...> > Jai Sita Ram> > Ram> > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Sreenadh> 24 November 2007 14:25> > Re: Blind chart reading - Quiz - Let us> laugh at the cowards as well.. > > Dear All, > * I use this occasion also to laugh at the people who where boasting> about numerous methodologies and ran away when it came to real test -> fearing even to attempt. ) You know the names and so I don't have to tell.> I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I feel you too> may feel the same. > * They don't know how to walk and boast they can fly!! They don't dare> to fall, and do you believe they will ever learn to walk? > * Ooosh...! Poor kids..! Don't worry...Run away when the test comes, try> to act gurus when there is no real struggle - and harvest the carrier and> mony - mamma taught you this trick or what? ) > > > If I am not saying this, it won't be sincerity from my part - so just> expressing the feeling. > > Anyway thanks to even those who hide their faces as well - because> they teach us what methods to follow - means - don't follow their methods...> lol.. > Let us all together correct our basics learn the merits and demerits of> our approaches and LEARN from experience. > Love,> Sreenadh>

[Guest guest]

Thank you dear friend for reminding us about the greater

significance of astrology. i will surely cherish your observations.

 

" Zodiac itself is the mathemtical expression of the experience of

the Cosmos by Tantriks.

 

Remember, Surya is Pranasurya within us. So we have our breath tuned

to the Sun. But under which computation this correlation between our

breath and sun can be realized?

 

It is from the Tantrik breathing the Sastras evolved, especially

Jyotisha. Tune your breathing to Sun and then you will realize that

there is only one being (micro+macrocosm) in the Universe and its

breath is Sun. Once you find yourself merged with the Sun and the

Universe, you will become Brahma " .

 

I could only say WOW! to such statements.

 

i am specially grateful to Shreenadh for exposing us to the

knowledge of ancient indian texts and attracting knowledgable

persons to this forum whose messages can be so inspiring. The

structured discussions that take place here, the emphasis on " logic "

and basic fundamentals of astrology make this forum unique in many

ways. Of course, we may get carried away at times....but if there is

a little bit of song and dance, it adds to the spice and colour of

this unique forum.So let us all laugh from time to time...in this

great study of TIME itself, as once Shreenadh said, is what

astrology is all about.

 

Maybe quizes like the one we had here provide a glimpse of the macro

through the micro. Revisiting it my query is....if there are 3

vargottama planets including the Sun, the source of our breath, and

Lagnesh, the " source " of our body, (which is exalted too) can a

person ever have alpa ayu?

 

 

 

, " K Chandra Hari "

<chandrahari81 wrote:

>

>

> Dear friend,

>

> We are living in a society where the blind pats the blind and

> shamelessly wear the mantle of Gods. All such evils errupt may be

as a

> time phenomenon when the society degenerates. So the sign of the

times

> is within us - in our unscrupulous living.

>

> Jyotisha - its real use in life, especially in the spiritual

progress

> can only be realized by the individual. Like other Sastras,

Jyotisha too

> evolved from the Tantrik tradition and so the realization of its

truth

> is individual oriented. Zodiac itself is the mathemtical

expression of

> the experience of the Cosmos by Tantriks.

>

> How that experience can be regained or utilized for grace by

common Man

> is the topic of Jyotisha. What Jyotisha can contribute to achieve

the

> experience of the Cosmos within? How Jyotisha can be used to

experience

> that Sun is the soul, Moon is the mind..?

>

> Remember, Surya is Pranasurya within us. So we have our breath

tuned to

> the Sun. But under which computation this correlation between our

breath

> and sun can be realized?

>

> Remember the following question and contemplate over it:

>

> Katham amoorthasya kalasya murttitvam uchyate?

>

> How the incomprehensisble time is credited with a limb structure

in the

> Heavens?

>

> It is from the Tantrik breathing the Sastras evolved, especially

> Jyotisha. Music came later. Perhaps the first manifestation of

> Siva-svara is Ganita and then Sangitam emerged. Tune your

breathing to

> Sun and then you will realize that there is only one being

> (micro+macrocosm) in the Universe and its breath is Sun. Once you

find

> yourself merged with the Sun and the Universe, you will become

Brahma.

> It is one of the Tattvas to be realized. Once that is realized,

you can

> transcend that by Yoga.

>

> Yogi is one who is capable of that Sava_asana. Sit over the

> Brahma_pretam and then you will enter the world of Maya, Mohini and

> Vishnu. Above that is the world of Rudra, Isvara and Lalita etc.

>

> In this path at some stage the knowledge of Jyotisha is required

and

> that is why it got incorporated as the eye of all knowledge. All

real

> understanding follows only when man is devoid of the ego. As long

as ego

> is there Chitttavrtti shall continue to exercise control like a

software

> and Man will be an automated machine of Maya.

>

> chandra hari

>

> chandra hari

>

>

>

>

> , " vinita kumar "

> <shankar_mamta@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shreenadh, Chandra Hariji,

> >

> > I think we should all act like cowards when it comes to making

> > astrological predictions. Astrology in the present day remains an

> > imperfect discipline. There are no perfect models of probability

in

> > astrology, be it ancient indian astrology, or any other

astrology.

> > Even though it is impossible to be 100 per cent correct all the

> > time; even being 50 per cent correct 100 per cent of the times

may

> > be a difficult task when it comes to specific dates and perdiods.

> > Even the best astrologers may fail.

> >

> > So where does all this lead us?

> >

> > Are we seeking to get to truth through astrology....or truth is

far

> > beyond and bigger than astrology??? Somehow, i feel disillusioned

> > with astrology even though i am one with you in my appreciation

of

> > Durgaji's prediction.

> >

> > So far as past is concerned it is over and done with....and in

some

> > sense dead. So far as future is concerned a lot depends upon us.

But

> > it is the present in which all of us should live, isn't it?

> >

> > So say the sages.

> >

> > Where is the role of astrology in search for truth???(which i

> > believe most of us are after?!)

> >

> > So should astrology be for entertainment, quizes,....or just a

> > pursuit of knowledge....which may not necessarily lead us to

truth?

> >

> > In the above circumstances if some kept away from participation

in

> > quiz they may be very sane rather than cowards, isn't

> > it!!!!????:):):)

> >

> > Love,

> >

> > vinita

> >

> >

> > , " K Chandra Hari "

> > chandrahari81@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Sreenadh,

> > >

> > > I am really inspired by the correct reading that Durga made of

the

> > blind

> > > Quiz. May be the real Durga has appeared in disguise.

> > Oohapohapatuh

> > > siddhamantro janati jatakam. So we have in Durga a great mind

and

> > > intellect combined with mantra siddhi.

> > >

> > > I did not practice any such mantra or gain any such kind of

siddhi

> > as to

> > > answer a blind quiz correctly. So sometimes I feel that I am a

> > coward -

> > > a man failed to utilize the opportunities he had.

> > >

> > > The piece of wisdom for which I appreciate Sri KN Rao is the

> > account he

> > > gave of Moorkhananda Svamiji. The name Moorkhananda meant 'One

who

> > > failed to keep his resolutions' . I always considered myself

one

> > such

> > > guy - a man who rejoice at his cowardice.

> > >

> > > In the blind quiz, no body gave any correct timings. May be

people

> > had

> > > doubts on the accuracy of birth time and so none discussed the

> > navamsa

> > > or dasamsa correctly. Without knowing the profession, how could

> > anybody

> > > ascertain the Dasamsa Lagna. Whether the native was a Sannyasi

or a

> > > laukika also the chart gives no simple answer. Classical

> > principles are

> > > in conflict in the case of the chart you gave.

> > >

> > > When facing destiny, we are all cowards. I am not offended by

your

> > > words. In fact I am happy that you gave the right description.

We

> > all

> > > become fools, cowards... depending on time and circumstances.

All

> > the

> > > so called modern tools discovered in astrology are expressions

of

> > > Chitta-Bhramam. Ambition driving paranoic guys to perpetuate

their

> > > names. Sri KN Rao, BV Raman etc are best example. See the AM

> > collapsed

> > > - think of the fate of the moral preachings they have been

making,

> > Vastu

> > > with which people were exploited. Now the Rao & co will also

> > > collapse... Let's not worship such idols - break all these

idols

> > and

> > > leave their pseudoscience asde to discover the truth of

Jyotisha.

> > >

> > > When we realize that we are cowards, the door is opened for

> > wisdom.

> > > Let's realize that we are cowards instead of selfstyled Gurus

and

> > > Mihiras and try to learn the great science.

> > >

> > > chandra hari

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Finn Wandahl "

> > > <finn.wandahl@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sreenadh,

> > > >

> > > > >>..I use this occasion also to laugh at the people who where

> > boasting

> > > > about numerous methodologies and ran away when it came to

real

> > test -

> > > > fearing even to attempt. ) You know the names and so I

don't

> > have to

> > > > tell. I am companionate towards those cowards - poor

guys - I

> > feel

> > > > > you too may feel the same. ...<<

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I for one, do not take any pleasure in laughing at and

publicly

> > > > insulting respectable scholars like Mr. G.K. Goel, Mr.

Ramadas

> > Rao and

> > > > Mr. Chandra Hari. On the contrary, reading this message of

> > yours, gave

> > > > me a sick feeling in the stomach. This is simply beyond

limit.

> > > >

> > > > I find it completely unacceptable that you call these

respectable

> > > > astrologers cowards in public. They have every right to

decide

> > for

> > > > themselves if they want to participate in a competition like

this

> > > > without being insulted afterwards. You, on the other hand,

have

> > > > absolutely no right what so ever to judge their decision and

> > call them

> > > > cowards.

> > > >

> > > > Shame on you!

> > > >

> > > > Finn Wandahl

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I am companionate towards those cowards - poor guys - I feel

> > > > > you too may feel the same.

> > > >

> > > > , " Sreenadh "

> > > > sreesog@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > * I use this occasion also to laugh at the people who where

> > boasting

> > > > > about numerous methodologies and ran away when it came to

real

> > test

> > > -

> > > > > fearing even to attempt. ) You know the names and so I

don't

> > have

> > > to

> > > > > tell. I am companionate towards those cowards - poor

guys -

> > I

> > > feel

> > > > > you too may feel the same.

> > > > > * They don't know how to walk and boast they can fly!! They

> > don't

> > > > > dare to fall, and do you believe they will ever learn to

walk?

> > > > > * Ooosh...! Poor kids..! Don't worry...Run away when the

test

> > comes,

> > > > > try to act gurus when there is no real struggle - and

harvest

> > the

> > > > > carrier and mony - mamma taught you this trick or what? )

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > If I am not saying this, it won't be sincerity from my

part -

> > so

> > > > just

> > > > > expressing the feeling.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anyway thanks to even those who hide their faces as well -

> > > > because

> > > > > they teach us what methods to follow - means - don't follow

> > their

> > > > > methods... lol..

> > > > > Let us all together correct our basics learn the merits and

> > > > demerits

> > > > > of our approaches and LEARN from experience.

> > > > > Love,

> > > > > Sreenadh

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sreenadh,

 

>>...I didn't named any member and as such the term used could only

considered as one used to mention the approach - i.e. cowardice - and

not the individuals. If you or any one else felt so - I apologize...<<

 

 

Apology accepted!

 

 

>>...* No member who participated in the exercise got insulted but

only appreciated! Then why you are assuming that some one is insulting

somebody else?!...<<

 

 

This is exactly my point!

 

Those who participated, including my own good self, were appreciated,

but those who didn't participate were called cowards by you and

laughed at in public. This is bad behavior, especially by a moderator.

 

Who knows, next time when there is a blind horoscope perhaps I am in a

bad mood or busy occupied by something else or whatever. Can I then

expect to be called a coward by you? Do I (or anyone else) deserve that?

 

 

>>...Know that - * It is NOT a competition, but only a LEARNING

EXERSISE. There is a great lot of difference between the two. Please

don't assume a learning experiment for a competition - that would be a

mistake...<<

 

 

Sorry, but I for one got the impression that you yourself pointed out

a winner... If this was the case, then it is a competition.

 

 

>>...The mails like the one I posted are just simple tactics to bring

out the knowledgeable and make them participate in the exercises, so

that we can learn from them...<<

 

 

In future please avoid such tactics. Let it be up to the members

themselves to decide if they want to participate or not, and please do

not insult those members who decide not to participate. After all,

they may have any number of reasons for this.

 

I do not object to running blind horoscopes as a learning exercise,

but nobody should be forced or manipulated to participate in such

exercises.

 

 

Very friendly,

Finn Wandahl

[Guest guest]

Dear Finn ji,

==>

> Who knows, next time when there is a blind horoscope perhaps I am in

> a bad mood or busy occupied by something else or whatever. Can I

> then expect to be called a coward by you? Do I (or anyone else)

> deserve that?

<==

Right you are - and thanks for the guidance. Let us go back to

astrology.

Love,

Sreenadh

, " Finn Wandahl "

<finn.wandahl wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadh,

>

> >>...I didn't named any member and as such the term used could only

> considered as one used to mention the approach - i.e. cowardice - and

> not the individuals. If you or any one else felt so - I apologize...<<

>

>

> Apology accepted!

>

>

> >>...* No member who participated in the exercise got insulted but

> only appreciated! Then why you are assuming that some one is insulting

> somebody else?!...<<

>

>

> This is exactly my point!

>

> Those who participated, including my own good self, were appreciated,

> but those who didn't participate were called cowards by you and

> laughed at in public. This is bad behavior, especially by a moderator.

>

> Who knows, next time when there is a blind horoscope perhaps I am in a

> bad mood or busy occupied by something else or whatever. Can I then

> expect to be called a coward by you? Do I (or anyone else) deserve that?

>

>

> >>...Know that - * It is NOT a competition, but only a LEARNING

> EXERSISE. There is a great lot of difference between the two. Please

> don't assume a learning experiment for a competition - that would be a

> mistake...<<

>

>

> Sorry, but I for one got the impression that you yourself pointed out

> a winner... If this was the case, then it is a competition.

>

>

> >>...The mails like the one I posted are just simple tactics to bring

> out the knowledgeable and make them participate in the exercises, so

> that we can learn from them...<<

>

>

> In future please avoid such tactics. Let it be up to the members

> themselves to decide if they want to participate or not, and please do

> not insult those members who decide not to participate. After all,

> they may have any number of reasons for this.

>

> I do not object to running blind horoscopes as a learning exercise,

> but nobody should be forced or manipulated to participate in such

> exercises.

>

>

> Very friendly,

> Finn Wandahl

>

[Guest guest]

dear Sreenadhji,

i am following all the postings regarding astrology.

the blind chart reading -Quiz gave much response and

revealed that some persons are there to give correct

predictions.i have seen some who by seeing the face or

listening the voice or by knowing the revealed name

from a person by phone could tell all about the future

without even going for horoscopes.one such person is

in the place where i live.shall i post his birth

details as blind chart reading?ofcourse ,it is only

for better understanding of the horoscpe reading.

regards,

subrahmanyam

--- Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

 

> Dear Finn ji,

> ==>

> > Who knows, next time when there is a blind

> horoscope perhaps I am in

> > a bad mood or busy occupied by something else or

> whatever. Can I

> > then expect to be called a coward by you? Do I (or

> anyone else)

> > deserve that?

> <==

> Right you are - and thanks for the guidance. Let

> us go back to

> astrology.

> Love,

> Sreenadh

> ,

> " Finn Wandahl "

> <finn.wandahl wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sreenadh,

> >

> > >>...I didn't named any member and as such the

> term used could only

> > considered as one used to mention the approach -

> i.e. cowardice - and

> > not the individuals. If you or any one else felt

> so - I apologize...<<

> >

> >

> > Apology accepted!

> >

> >

> > >>...* No member who participated in the exercise

> got insulted but

> > only appreciated! Then why you are assuming that

> some one is insulting

> > somebody else?!...<<

> >

> >

> > This is exactly my point!

> >

> > Those who participated, including my own good

> self, were appreciated,

> > but those who didn't participate were called

> cowards by you and

> > laughed at in public. This is bad behavior,

> especially by a moderator.

> >

> > Who knows, next time when there is a blind

> horoscope perhaps I am in a

> > bad mood or busy occupied by something else or

> whatever. Can I then

> > expect to be called a coward by you? Do I (or

> anyone else) deserve that?

> >

> >

> > >>...Know that - * It is NOT a competition, but

> only a LEARNING

> > EXERSISE. There is a great lot of difference

> between the two. Please

> > don't assume a learning experiment for a

> competition - that would be a

> > mistake...<<

> >

> >

> > Sorry, but I for one got the impression that you

> yourself pointed out

> > a winner... If this was the case, then it is a

> competition.

> >

> >

> > >>...The mails like the one I posted are just

> simple tactics to bring

> > out the knowledgeable and make them participate in

> the exercises, so

> > that we can learn from them...<<

> >

> >

> > In future please avoid such tactics. Let it be up

> to the members

> > themselves to decide if they want to participate

> or not, and please do

> > not insult those members who decide not to

> participate. After all,

> > they may have any number of reasons for this.

> >

> > I do not object to running blind horoscopes as a

> learning exercise,

> > but nobody should be forced or manipulated to

> participate in such

> > exercises.

> >

> >

> > Very friendly,

> > Finn Wandahl

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

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