blind chart reading

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An exalted planet does not mean that it will be exempted from giving

the malefic effects assigned to it. The exalted planets only bestow

name, fame and status during their periods. Hence, venus will

definitely give its 3/8 results during its dasha.

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Good observation and equally confident statement !! Will have to wait

for Sreenadh to raise the curtain on this blind chart......Joy to see

members getting very active on this Quiz account.....

 

sreeram srinivas

 

 

, " cyberart_infos "

<cyberart_infos wrote:

 

An exalted planet does not mean that it will be exempted from giving

the malefic effects assigned to it. The exalted planets only bestow

name, fame and status during their periods. Hence, venus will

definitely give its 3/8 results during its dasha.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sreeramji, normally i'm a silent observer in the forum, but

couldn't refrain from analysing this one. Once we know if we're on the

right track, the analysis can be extended further. The transit of a

retrograding mars in close conjunction with rahu in 7th house of the

native, and virgo sign, seems to have impacted his life in a big way.

 

, " Sre_eram "

<sreeram64 wrote:

>

>

> Good observation and equally confident statement !! Will have to wait

> for Sreenadh to raise the curtain on this blind chart......Joy to see

> members getting very active on this Quiz account.....

>

> sreeram srinivas

>

>

> , " cyberart_infos "

> <cyberart_infos@> wrote:

>

> An exalted planet does not mean that it will be exempted from giving

> the malefic effects assigned to it. The exalted planets only bestow

> name, fame and status during their periods. Hence, venus will

> definitely give its 3/8 results during its dasha.

>

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Dear Chawan saab,

 

I respect your views and hence the pleasure of disagreeing with

you....!!....Going by your logics, one can put lot of excuses to one's

Boss in office....!!! and stand a sure chance of losing the job....!!!

 

Well not everything is destiny.....for ordinary mortals - yes who are

resigned to fate, for those with a thinking mind....it is not so.....!!

 

Everything is cause and reaction......and upholding of dharma....!! In

mahabharat...Lord Krishna instructs Arjun... - you duty is to shoot

arrows......to ensure that the arrows hit the enemy is my job..... to

upload dharma in daily life is one's prerogative......the examples you

have are in principle are bad {using a milder word !!}....to stop the

karmic cycle....by perpetuating the reaction is where the real karma or

dharma lies....

 

Kindly read the hindu scriptures in english language shall provide the

weblinks on it tomorrow...the karmic law cannot be overruled even by

great saints....it has to be satisfied.....prayers & guru's help in

overcoming it...or advanced yogis, transfer the karma on to themselves

through yogic methods to protect their disciples......does Jesus really

deserve the type of crucification death...??? for his simple

preachings....surely NOT

 

Normally the karma burning is very slow for ordinary people...but people

who are already on dharma....it burns must faster...hurdles are

more....you are repaying your debts of next life now itself.....!! see

my karma accounting theories in the archives.....

 

.....got to for dinner...getting late...will continue tomorrow.....on

this....consider this as part-1

 

with regards

 

sreeram srinivas

 

 

 

 

, Prathamesn Chawan

<upaoakcrest wrote:

 

I feel more sorry if someone proves that astrology is 100% true. I

havent got the answer of this question so far. If astrology is 100% true

then an able astrologer can predict everything about your future. If

that happens then there is nothing good or bad or evil.

 

A rapist is as good as a the victim. Rapist was supposed to rape

according to planetary conditions in his chart and victim was supposed

to be victim according to her chart. It means Harshad Mehta,

Daud-Abrahim, Chotta Shakil and all the people from underworld or

indulge in illegal activities are not bad. They are acting as they are

destined.

 

A husband who beats his wife daily is not a bad person. Wife was

destined to suffer and husband was supposed to be the aggresive and

voilent ?

 

Can anyone tell me how much is in human hand and how much is in the hand

of destiny ? After reading many books of K. N. Rao, i feel that its all

destiny.

 

 

Thanks

 

Jagdish

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Dear Srinivas ji,

==>

> karma burning ....

<==

I wonder - is it some thing like Firewood?! :=)

Love and hugs,

Sreenadh

 

, " sreeram srinivas "

<sreeram64 wrote:

>

>

> Dear Chawan saab,

>

> I respect your views and hence the pleasure of disagreeing with

> you....!!....Going by your logics, one can put lot of excuses to one's

> Boss in office....!!! and stand a sure chance of losing the job....!!!

>

> Well not everything is destiny.....for ordinary mortals - yes who are

> resigned to fate, for those with a thinking mind....it is not so.....!!

>

> Everything is cause and reaction......and upholding of dharma....!! In

> mahabharat...Lord Krishna instructs Arjun... - you duty is to shoot

> arrows......to ensure that the arrows hit the enemy is my job..... to

> upload dharma in daily life is one's prerogative......the examples you

> have are in principle are bad {using a milder word !!}....to stop the

> karmic cycle....by perpetuating the reaction is where the real karma or

> dharma lies....

>

> Kindly read the hindu scriptures in english language shall provide the

> weblinks on it tomorrow...the karmic law cannot be overruled even by

> great saints....it has to be satisfied.....prayers & guru's help in

> overcoming it...or advanced yogis, transfer the karma on to themselves

> through yogic methods to protect their disciples......does Jesus really

> deserve the type of crucification death...??? for his simple

> preachings....surely NOT

>

> Normally the karma burning is very slow for ordinary people...but people

> who are already on dharma....it burns must faster...hurdles are

> more....you are repaying your debts of next life now itself.....!! see

> my karma accounting theories in the archives.....

>

> ....got to for dinner...getting late...will continue tomorrow.....on

> this....consider this as part-1

>

> with regards

>

> sreeram srinivas

>

>

>

>

> , Prathamesn Chawan

> <upaoakcrest@> wrote:

>

> I feel more sorry if someone proves that astrology is 100% true. I

> havent got the answer of this question so far. If astrology is 100% true

> then an able astrologer can predict everything about your future. If

> that happens then there is nothing good or bad or evil.

>

> A rapist is as good as a the victim. Rapist was supposed to rape

> according to planetary conditions in his chart and victim was supposed

> to be victim according to her chart. It means Harshad Mehta,

> Daud-Abrahim, Chotta Shakil and all the people from underworld or

> indulge in illegal activities are not bad. They are acting as they are

> destined.

>

> A husband who beats his wife daily is not a bad person. Wife was

> destined to suffer and husband was supposed to be the aggresive and

> voilent ?

>

> Can anyone tell me how much is in human hand and how much is in the hand

> of destiny ? After reading many books of K. N. Rao, i feel that its all

> destiny.

>

>

> Thanks

>

> Jagdish

>

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Dear Sreeram ji,

 

" karmic cycle....by perpetuating the reaction is where the real

karma or

dharma lies.... "

 

Let me quote a few lines to this karmic theory:

 

It is this doctrine of Kamma that gives man consolation, hope, self

reliance and moral courage. It is this belief in Kamma " that

validates his effort, kindles his enthusiasm, " makes him ever kind,

tolerant and considerate. It is also this firm belief in Kamma that

prompts him to refrain from evil, do good and be good without being

frightened of any punishment or tempted by any reward.

 

It is this doctrine of Kamma that can explain the problem of

suffering, the mystery of so-called fate or predestination of some

religions, and above all the inequality of mankind.

 

" .....or advanced yogis, transfer the karma on to themselves

through yogic methods to protect their disciples...... "

 

That is purely unfair and breaks the rules of karmic theory. One

should reap what one sows....OR.. is it also Karma that the disciple

happens to be under the shade of an advanced yogi who would shield

him [disciple] from the consequences of his [disciple's] past sins

[immoral or evil actions]? Wouldn't it better to let him go through

the 'reaction' and give an opportunity to learn a lesson from it?

Compassion is a noble feeling. But what if compassion used

wrongly 'spoils the child?'

 

blessings

 

Renu

 

 

>

>

>

>

> , Prathamesn Chawan

> <upaoakcrest@> wrote:

>

> I feel more sorry if someone proves that astrology is 100% true.

I

> havent got the answer of this question so far. If astrology is

100% true

> then an able astrologer can predict everything about your future.

If

> that happens then there is nothing good or bad or evil.

>

> A rapist is as good as a the victim. Rapist was supposed to rape

> according to planetary conditions in his chart and victim was

supposed

> to be victim according to her chart. It means Harshad Mehta,

> Daud-Abrahim, Chotta Shakil and all the people from underworld or

> indulge in illegal activities are not bad. They are acting as they

are

> destined.

>

> A husband who beats his wife daily is not a bad person. Wife was

> destined to suffer and husband was supposed to be the aggresive and

> voilent ?

>

> Can anyone tell me how much is in human hand and how much is in

the hand

> of destiny ? After reading many books of K. N. Rao, i feel that

its all

> destiny.

>

>

> Thanks

>

> Jagdish

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Srinivas Ji Greetings Lord Krishna had fatal attacks on his life. Krishna was a lord itself. What karma he did in his last life (which is not there) so that he got such a dangerous childhood ? What karma Jesus did ? He suffered a lot. Well, who made this karma or came up with this concept of Karma ? What was his desire ? If its God, then what does he want from human being ? Even if we believe that Karma theory ( supported by Gita) is true then it means that we are slave of a rule. Who made us slave of the rule ? There are many more question in my mind to ask you. Well, i am asking because of my planetary positions (19:13, Ghaziabad - UP, 25-August-1981). I think a lot on all these questions and try to justify or

counter-argue with myself on these question. But never got a satisfied reason. Thanks Jagdish Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear Srinivas ji,==>> karma burning ....<==I wonder - is it some thing like Firewood?! :=)Love and hugs,Sreenadh , "sreeram srinivas"<sreeram64

wrote:>> > Dear Chawan saab,> > I respect your views and hence the pleasure of disagreeing with> you....!!....Going by your logics, one can put lot of excuses to one's> Boss in office....!!! and stand a sure chance of losing the job....!!!> > Well not everything is destiny.....for ordinary mortals - yes who are> resigned to fate, for those with a thinking mind....it is not so.....!!> > Everything is cause and reaction......and upholding of dharma....!! In> mahabharat...Lord Krishna instructs Arjun... - you duty is to shoot> arrows......to ensure that the arrows hit the enemy is my job..... to> upload dharma in daily life is one's prerogative......the examples you> have are in principle are bad {using a milder word !!}....to stop the> karmic cycle....by perpetuating the reaction is where the real karma or> dharma

lies....> > Kindly read the hindu scriptures in english language shall provide the> weblinks on it tomorrow...the karmic law cannot be overruled even by> great saints....it has to be satisfied.....prayers & guru's help in> overcoming it...or advanced yogis, transfer the karma on to themselves> through yogic methods to protect their disciples......does Jesus really> deserve the type of crucification death...??? for his simple> preachings....surely NOT> > Normally the karma burning is very slow for ordinary people...but people> who are already on dharma....it burns must faster...hurdles are> more....you are repaying your debts of next life now itself.....!! see> my karma accounting theories in the archives.....> > ....got to for dinner...getting late...will continue tomorrow.....on> this....consider this as part-1> >

with regards> > sreeram srinivas> > > > > , Prathamesn Chawan> <upaoakcrest@> wrote:> > I feel more sorry if someone proves that astrology is 100% true. I> havent got the answer of this question so far. If astrology is 100% true> then an able astrologer can predict everything about your future. If> that happens then there is nothing good or bad or evil.> > A rapist is as good as a the victim. Rapist was supposed to rape> according to planetary conditions in his chart and victim was supposed> to be victim according to her chart. It means Harshad Mehta,> Daud-Abrahim, Chotta Shakil and all the people from underworld or> indulge in illegal activities are not bad. They are acting as they are>

destined.> > A husband who beats his wife daily is not a bad person. Wife was> destined to suffer and husband was supposed to be the aggresive and> voilent ?> > Can anyone tell me how much is in human hand and how much is in the hand> of destiny ? After reading many books of K. N. Rao, i feel that its all> destiny.> > > Thanks> > Jagdish>

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Dear Chawanji,

 

Continuing from my previous posting: {but modulated to your immediate

response}

 

1) On Lord Krishna - One need to be aware of the various mythology

behind the " fatal attacks on his life " for it was a boon given to two of

his own " dwarapalaks " {i.e. security guards !! of Vaikuntam - Lord

Vishnu's native place} to choose between 7 lifecycle of friendship or 4

yrs of enemity !! they choose second option....- a result of blocking a

rishi i.e. Brahma kumars from visiting {they are Green Card Visa Holders

& had VIP status with diplomatic immunity} Lord Vishnu.

 

If you really read Ramayana, Lord Ram inspite of his sticking to rules &

conditions, had violated few of them like killing of Mighty Vali brother

of Sugreeva, Youngster must be my favorite Arian i.e. Indrajit son of

Mighty Ravan, ...etc.. though some justification was given, yet it has

its own weaknesses

 

2) Jesus - was born to spread spiritualism amongst the non-believers,

had to do some miracles {even miracles have some nature's laws to

follow to happen}, to gain their beliefs, made dead men alive when

challenged, ...etc.. so took the karma on himself and result....is the

crucification....he got punished for the good he spread !!

 

3) I think you have not read or fully aware of the Puranas i.e. either

Shivapuran or Vishnupuran...which talks of " big bang theories " and

earth creation ....humans coming to world....etc....and its intended

purpose......Lord Shiva is depicted in his ultimate form,with garland of

27 skulls - indicating 27th round of universe evolution or creation !!

{by one school of thought}

 

4) to ask and question yourself on those parameters...is good..begining

to evolve yourself......keep it up.....

 

5) though you have provided your birth data, i am yet to cast your

hororscope, {which I do NOT want to do for now}, I would have made a

planetary guess of your hororscope without asking {without knowing your

birthdata}, just to test my own knowledgebase and application....you

have pre-empted my move....would take some other time to apply them....

 

6) if you fluent in Hindi,then buy those Puranas set from Gita Press,

they costs around Rs. 1,200 or Rs.1,500 very subsidized costs...it is

well written to make a begining on hindu scriptures......

 

7) God believes in democracy, so he devised a system called Karma theory

or philosophy or sidhantam, {theory-current generation, philosophy -

coined by westerners, sidhantam - rules as it is rightly said by

believing hindus}, where in " self appraisal " is carried out in a

mathematical process without his involvement or representation {we have

few humorous movies made depicting of COULD-BE-ERRORS down in south

-telugu language},which decides your promotion or demotion in next life

 

8) As many of current generation youngsters do not have the patience to

glean through those " heavy sanskrit literature " , prefers Google Searches

for answers, kindly take time to see the movie " Adi Shankaracharya " &

'Swami Vivekananda " made by a Malayam film producer, with excellent

subtitles in english -infact the pictures are made in sanskrit later

subtitled in various indian languages including hindi....for a good

beginging.....

 

9) Astrology is your blue print {engineers term } or balance sheet of

your karma. Just like any company's balance sheet one may have a

pessimistic or optimistic outlook. Doing quarterly reviews {as

announced in public....stocks go up & down}, showing a trend....so to an

individual - it is all about actions, action here indicates thoughts

also - my helping of a person now can be with or without intent{secret

agenda or personal wish behind it}...where it is helped without any

selfishness, gets more credits, than bargaining God to give you good

marks in exams or get you a MNC job and in return you would donate some

monies...=is a barter trade in which God is NOT interested.... what can

you give to him??...for he is owner of the entire universe....he only

seeks your heart & love.... { a difficult thing to prove to youngster

like you...for you are all charged/blood flows in veins, full of

idealism ...but have less understanding at this age...!! - need to wait

for time to mature}.

 

{nothing personal here - take it easy }

 

Example - Abhimanyu of Mahabharat, was confident and over confident of

entering " charkravyu " , even when stopped by master of self defence Uncle

Yudhistra

 

Kindly update yourself on few literature stated above, then we will

continue our healthy discussion......good to see youngsters probing for

serious answer !!!

 

Knowing the true astrology is something like knowing the true karmakanda

indirectly....both go together....{karmakanda - karma burning !!

....taking cue from Sreenadh....like burning firewood..it is not that

easy.....}

 

 

 

with regards,

 

sreeram srinivas

 

 

 

 

, Prathamesn Chawan

<upaoakcrest wrote:

 

Dear Srinivas Ji

 

Greetings

 

 

Lord Krishna had fatal attacks on his life. Krishna was a lord itself.

What karma he did in his last life (which is not there) so that he got

such a dangerous childhood ?

 

What karma Jesus did ? He suffered a lot.

 

Well, who made this karma or came up with this concept of Karma ? What

was his desire ? If its God, then what does he want from human being ?

 

Even if we believe that Karma theory ( supported by Gita) is true then

it means that we are slave of a rule. Who made us slave of the rule ?

 

There are many more question in my mind to ask you. Well, i am asking

because of my planetary positions (19:13, Ghaziabad - UP,

25-August-1981).

 

I think a lot on all these questions and try to justify or counter-argue

with myself on these question. But never got a satisfied reason.

 

Thanks

 

Jagdish

 

 

 

Sreenadh sreesog wrote: Dear Srinivas ji,

==>

karma burning ....

<==

I wonder - is it some thing like Firewood?! :=)

Love and hugs,

Sreenadh

[Guest guest]

Dear Sreeramji,Namaskar.Your explanations are very interesting and convincing.God is a Great Democrat and leaves the results of actions to their deeds only,not interfering Himself.With regards,D.Ramakrishnansreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote: Dear Chawanji, Continuing from my previous posting: {but modulated to your immediate response} 1) On Lord Krishna - One need to be aware of the various mythology behind the "fatal attacks on his life" for it was a boon given to two of his own "dwarapalaks"

{i.e. security guards !! of Vaikuntam - Lord Vishnu's native place} to choose between 7 lifecycle of friendship or 4 yrs of enemity !! they choose second option....- a result of blocking a rishi i.e. Brahma kumars from visiting {they are Green Card Visa Holders & had VIP status with diplomatic immunity} Lord Vishnu. If you really read Ramayana, Lord Ram inspite of his sticking to rules & conditions, had violated few of them like killing of Mighty Vali brother of Sugreeva, Youngster must be my favorite Arian i.e. Indrajit son of Mighty Ravan, ...etc.. though some justification was given, yet it has its own weaknesses 2) Jesus - was born to spread spiritualism amongst the non-believers, had to do some miracles {even miracles have some nature's laws to follow to happen}, to gain their beliefs, made dead men alive when challenged, ...etc.. so took the karma on himself and result....is the

crucification....he got punished for the good he spread !! 3) I think you have not read or fully aware of the Puranas i.e. either Shivapuran or Vishnupuran...which talks of "big bang theories " and earth creation ....humans coming to world....etc....and its intended purpose......Lord Shiva is depicted in his ultimate form,with garland of 27 skulls - indicating 27th round of universe evolution or creation !! {by one school of thought} 4) to ask and question yourself on those parameters...is good..begining to evolve yourself......keep it up..... 5) though you have provided your birth data, i am yet to cast your hororscope, {which I do NOT want to do for now}, I would have made a planetary guess of your hororscope without asking {without knowing your birthdata}, just to test my own knowledgebase and application....you have pre-empted my move....would take some other time to

apply them.... 6) if you fluent in Hindi,then buy those Puranas set from Gita Press, they costs around Rs. 1,200 or Rs.1,500 very subsidized costs...it is well written to make a begining on hindu scriptures...... 7) God believes in democracy, so he devised a system called Karma theory or philosophy or sidhantam, {theory-current generation, philosophy - coined by westerners, sidhantam - rules as it is rightly said by believing hindus}, where in "self appraisal" is carried out in a mathematical process without his involvement or representation {we have few humorous movies made depicting of COULD-BE-ERRORS down in south -telugu language},which decides your promotion or demotion in next life 8) As many of current generation youngsters do not have the patience to glean through those "heavy sanskrit literature", prefers Google Searches for answers, kindly take time to see the movie "Adi Shankaracharya"

& 'Swami Vivekananda" made by a Malayam film producer, with excellent subtitles in english -infact the pictures are made in sanskrit later subtitled in various indian languages including hindi....for a good beginging..... 9) Astrology is your blue print {engineers term } or balance sheet of your karma. Just like any company's balance sheet one may have a pessimistic or optimistic outlook. Doing quarterly reviews {as announced in public....stocks go up & down}, showing a trend....so to an individual - it is all about actions, action here indicates thoughts also - my helping of a person now can be with or without intent{secret agenda or personal wish behind it}...where it is helped without any selfishness, gets more credits, than bargaining God to give you good marks in exams or get you a MNC job and in return you would donate some monies...=is a barter trade in which God is NOT

interested.... what can you give to him??...for he is owner of the entire universe....he only seeks your heart & love.... { a difficult thing to prove to youngster like you...for you are all charged/blood flows in veins, full of idealism ...but have less understanding at this age...!! - need to wait for time to mature}. {nothing personal here - take it easy } Example - Abhimanyu of Mahabharat, was confident and over confident of entering "charkravyu", even when stopped by master of self defence Uncle Yudhistra Kindly update yourself on few literature stated above, then we will continue our healthy discussion......good to see youngsters probing for serious answer !!! Knowing the true astrology is something like knowing the true karmakanda indirectly....both go together....{karmakanda - karma burning !! ...taking cue from Sreenadh....like burning

firewood..it is not that easy.....} with regards, sreeram srinivas , Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest wrote: Dear Srinivas Ji Greetings Lord Krishna had fatal attacks on his life. Krishna was a lord itself. What karma he did in his last life (which is not there) so that he got such a dangerous childhood ? What karma Jesus did ? He suffered a lot. Well, who made this karma or came up with this concept of Karma ? What was his desire ? If its God, then what does he want from human being ? Even if we believe that Karma theory ( supported by Gita) is true then it means that we are slave of a rule. Who made us slave of the rule ? There are many more question in my mind to ask you. Well, i am asking because of my planetary

positions (19:13, Ghaziabad - UP, 25-August-1981). I think a lot on all these questions and try to justify or counter-argue with myself on these question. But never got a satisfied reason. Thanks Jagdish Sreenadh sreesog wrote: Dear Srinivas ji, ==> karma burning .... <== I wonder - is it some thing like Firewood?! :=) Love and hugs, Sreenadh

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