Guest guest Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Dear Finn ji, I think there could be a confusion. * Lahari Ayanamsa: Lahari calculated AD.285 as the Zero Ayanamsa year (which is wrong as per our modified understanding), but still stated that the point against Citra star should be used to calculate Ayanamsa. The Rashtriya Panjanga adopted this zero Ayanamsa year AD 285, and based all their calculations on that. The Ayanamsa calculated by accepting AD 285 as the Zero Ayanamsa year is known as Lahari Ayanamsa (which is NOT true Chitra paksha ayanamsa). It is seems that this what you are speaking about as Lahari Ayanamsa. * True Chitra Paksha Ayanamsa: This Ayanamsa is calculated based on the exact point opposite to Chitra star. I am not sure whether any astrological software currently gives longitudes based on the same. It seems that this is what Goal ji is speaking about with the words 'True Citra Paksha Ayanamsa'. Please correct me - If I am wrong in my understanding about your's and Goal ji's views. Love, Sreenadh , " Finn Wandahl " <finn.wandahl wrote: > > Dear Mr. Goel, > > >>...If you will use True Citra AYANAMSA , YOUR prediction will > further improve.Kindly give a try...<< > > I think you may have misunderstood me. I always use Lahiri ayanamsa, > which is in fact the same as what you call Citra ayanamsa. > > :-) > > Finn Wandahl > > > , Gopal Goel > <gkgoel1937@> wrote: > > > > Dear Wandahl, > > You are right. Mercury can not be killer. > > Venus is powerfully killer. It is placed in own and 7th house . It > is aspected by both Ketu (represents mistakes and sudden events). > > and Saturn. In Navamsa ,it is debilitated. In transit it again > aspected by Saturn. Venus, Ketu and Saturn are together in transit. > > If you will use True Citra AYANAMSA , YOUR prediction will further > improve.Kindly give a try. > > Regards, > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > Ph: 09350311433 > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > INDIA > > > > > > > > > > Finn Wandahl <finn.wandahl@> > > > > Thursday, 22 November, 2007 1:55:40 AM > > Re: Death due to > accident--astrological reason (Clarification) > > > > Dear Mr. Chandra Hari, > > > > >>...What is the connection between Scorpio Lagna and ayanamsa here...<< > > > > Please, you yourself has mentioned that this man died in Kuja Dasa, > > BUDHA Bhukti. But according to my calculation (based on Lahiri > > ayanamsa) he died in Mars Dasa, VENUS bhukti. This means, either you > > are introducing another ayanamsa here, or you have done some wrong > > calculations. > > > > >>...Those who want to learn in the spirit of sastra must study them > > seriously... << > > > > Yes, I most certainly agree to this. But perhaps, contrary to all > > others, you believe to have found out the only true spirit of sastra... > > > > >>...To play fraud on the public any ayanamsa will do along with > > sociology psychology.. .<< > > > > Who is playing fraud on the public on ayanamsa? You or me? > > > > >>...This looks to be great wisdom. Application of mythology to > > astrology = mystrology?. ..<< > > > > Astrology is in fact a cognitive science, which is very much based on > > cosmology and mythology, no matter if we like it or not. > > > > Very friendly, > > Finn Wandahl > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " K Chandra Hari " > > <chandrahari81@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > > What is the connection between Scorpio Lagna and ayanamsa here. I > am not > > > using any ayanamsa which will cause a change in Lagna. Elaboration is > > > required for 'hair splitting with advanced techniques'. With the > correct > > > value of ayanamsa simple classical rules are sufficient. Who needs > > > elaboration to understand that 6th lord signifies accident and 6th to > > > 6th i.e. 11 as well. 6th lord in 11 th is a double cause for accident. > > > For Scorpio Lagna, Mercury is greatly evil. Mercury is dispositor of > > > Mars. > > > > > > Keep a little of the brain for some 'lateral' thinking and open > mind. On > > > Ayanamsa my work is added as file in the group and also the paper > > > published in IJHS which disproves the Saha_Lahiri report on which > > > validity of Citrapaksha is claimed. Those who want to learn in the > > > spirit of sastra must study them seriously. > > > > > > To play fraud on the public any ayanamsa will do along with sociology > > > and psychology. > > > > > > chandra hari > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Finn Wandahl " > > > <finn.wandahl@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Chandra Hari, > > > > > > > > Please, if you want to argue in favour of the Scorpio Lagna, and to > > > > introduce a different Ayanamsa at the same time, then you need to be > > > > much more elaborate. > > > > > > > > Very friendly, > > > > Finn Wandahl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " K Chandra Hari " > > > > chandrahari81@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When Kuja has become Maraka in Budha's house in 11th what if the > > > native > > > > > had died in Kuja dasa - Budha bhukti? > > > > > > > > > > Kuja owns 6th house and Budha owns 8th and 11th. 6th is the > house of > > > > > accident and injury and 11th is 6th from 6th. These are simple > > > classical > > > > > indications. Why to split the hair? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we > have it on http://in.promos./groups > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Dear Sreenadh, My mentors, being veteran astrologers like the late Manik Chand Jain and a few others, would normally refer to the Lahiri ayanamsa as Chitra Paksha ayanamsa. They understood it as being one and the same thing. However, I don't remember having ever heard the term " True " in connection to Chitra Paksha ayanamsa. It was only Chitra Paksha Ayanamsa or Lahiri ayanamsa, which was based on exact opposition to Spica (Chitra) and the zero year of this ayanamsa-value was 285 AD. :-) Finn Wandahl , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Finn ji, > I think there could be a confusion. > * Lahari Ayanamsa: Lahari calculated AD.285 as the Zero Ayanamsa year > (which is wrong as per our modified understanding), but still stated > that the point against Citra star should be used to calculate > Ayanamsa. The Rashtriya Panjanga adopted this zero Ayanamsa year AD > 285, and based all their calculations on that. The Ayanamsa > calculated by accepting AD 285 as the Zero Ayanamsa year is known as > Lahari Ayanamsa (which is NOT true Chitra paksha ayanamsa). It is > seems that this what you are speaking about as Lahari Ayanamsa. > * True Chitra Paksha Ayanamsa: This Ayanamsa is calculated based on > the exact point opposite to Chitra star. I am not sure whether any > astrological software currently gives longitudes based on the same. > It seems that this is what Goal ji is speaking about with the > words 'True Citra Paksha Ayanamsa'. > Please correct me - If I am wrong in my understanding about your's > and Goal ji's views. > Love, > Sreenadh > > , " Finn Wandahl " > <finn.wandahl@> wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Goel, > > > > >>...If you will use True Citra AYANAMSA , YOUR prediction will > > further improve.Kindly give a try...<< > > > > I think you may have misunderstood me. I always use Lahiri ayanamsa, > > which is in fact the same as what you call Citra ayanamsa. > > > > :-) > > > > Finn Wandahl > > > > > > , Gopal Goel > > <gkgoel1937@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Wandahl, > > > You are right. Mercury can not be killer. > > > Venus is powerfully killer. It is placed in own and 7th house . It > > is aspected by both Ketu (represents mistakes and sudden events). > > > and Saturn. In Navamsa ,it is debilitated. In transit it again > > aspected by Saturn. Venus, Ketu and Saturn are together in transit. > > > If you will use True Citra AYANAMSA , YOUR prediction will further > > improve.Kindly give a try. > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > > Ph: 09350311433 > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > > INDIA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Finn Wandahl <finn.wandahl@> > > > > > > Thursday, 22 November, 2007 1:55:40 AM > > > Re: Death due to > > accident--astrological reason (Clarification) > > > > > > Dear Mr. Chandra Hari, > > > > > > >>...What is the connection between Scorpio Lagna and ayanamsa > here...<< > > > > > > Please, you yourself has mentioned that this man died in Kuja > Dasa, > > > BUDHA Bhukti. But according to my calculation (based on Lahiri > > > ayanamsa) he died in Mars Dasa, VENUS bhukti. This means, either > you > > > are introducing another ayanamsa here, or you have done some wrong > > > calculations. > > > > > > >>...Those who want to learn in the spirit of sastra must study > them > > > seriously... << > > > > > > Yes, I most certainly agree to this. But perhaps, contrary to all > > > others, you believe to have found out the only true spirit of > sastra... > > > > > > >>...To play fraud on the public any ayanamsa will do along with > > > sociology psychology.. .<< > > > > > > Who is playing fraud on the public on ayanamsa? You or me? > > > > > > >>...This looks to be great wisdom. Application of mythology to > > > astrology = mystrology?. ..<< > > > > > > Astrology is in fact a cognitive science, which is very much > based on > > > cosmology and mythology, no matter if we like it or not. > > > > > > Very friendly, > > > Finn Wandahl > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " K Chandra > Hari " > > > <chandrahari81@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > > > > What is the connection between Scorpio Lagna and ayanamsa here. > I > > am not > > > > using any ayanamsa which will cause a change in Lagna. > Elaboration is > > > > required for 'hair splitting with advanced techniques'. With the > > correct > > > > value of ayanamsa simple classical rules are sufficient. Who > needs > > > > elaboration to understand that 6th lord signifies accident and > 6th to > > > > 6th i.e. 11 as well. 6th lord in 11 th is a double cause for > accident. > > > > For Scorpio Lagna, Mercury is greatly evil. Mercury is > dispositor of > > > > Mars. > > > > > > > > Keep a little of the brain for some 'lateral' thinking and open > > mind. On > > > > Ayanamsa my work is added as file in the group and also the > paper > > > > published in IJHS which disproves the Saha_Lahiri report on > which > > > > validity of Citrapaksha is claimed. Those who want to learn in > the > > > > spirit of sastra must study them seriously. > > > > > > > > To play fraud on the public any ayanamsa will do along with > sociology > > > > and psychology. > > > > > > > > chandra hari > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Finn > Wandahl " > > > > <finn.wandahl@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Chandra Hari, > > > > > > > > > > Please, if you want to argue in favour of the Scorpio Lagna, > and to > > > > > introduce a different Ayanamsa at the same time, then you > need to be > > > > > much more elaborate. > > > > > > > > > > Very friendly, > > > > > Finn Wandahl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " K > Chandra Hari " > > > > > chandrahari81@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When Kuja has become Maraka in Budha's house in 11th what > if the > > > > native > > > > > > had died in Kuja dasa - Budha bhukti? > > > > > > > > > > > > Kuja owns 6th house and Budha owns 8th and 11th. 6th is the > > house of > > > > > > accident and injury and 11th is 6th from 6th. These are > simple > > > > classical > > > > > > indications. Why to split the hair? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we > > have it on http://in.promos./groups > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Dear Sreenadh, YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS CORRECT. The difinition of Citra Ayanamsa is: Ayanamsa== Tropical longitude of Star Citra -- 180 deg. No back calculation will be needed. Modern Astronomy can give the longitude with an accuracy of 0.04" . Till software's adopts this method , you may get the Citra AYANAMSA by offsetting Lahiri's value by 57' for era 1950 to 2050. Regards,, G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA Sreenadh <sreesog Sent: Thursday, 22 November, 2007 7:07:08 PM Re: Lahari Ayanamsa & True Citra Ayanamsa Dear Finn ji,I think there could be a confusion. * Lahari Ayanamsa: Lahari calculated AD.285 as the Zero Ayanamsa year (which is wrong as per our modified understanding) , but still stated that the point against Citra star should be used to calculate Ayanamsa. The Rashtriya Panjanga adopted this zero Ayanamsa year AD 285, and based all their calculations on that. The Ayanamsa calculated by accepting AD 285 as the Zero Ayanamsa year is known as Lahari Ayanamsa (which is NOT true Chitra paksha ayanamsa). It is seems that this what you are speaking about as Lahari Ayanamsa. * True Chitra Paksha Ayanamsa: This Ayanamsa is calculated based on the exact point opposite to Chitra star. I am not sure whether any astrological software currently gives longitudes based on the same. It seems that this is what Goal ji is speaking about with the words 'True Citra Paksha Ayanamsa'. Please correct me - If I am wrong in my understanding about your's and Goal ji's views.Love,Sreenadh ancient_indian_ astrology, "Finn Wandahl" <finn.wandahl@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Mr. Goel,> > >>...If you will use True Citra AYANAMSA , YOUR prediction will> further improve.Kindly give a try...<<> > I think you may have misunderstood me. I always use Lahiri ayanamsa,> which is in fact the same as what you call Citra ayanamsa.> > :-)> > Finn Wandahl> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Gopal Goel> <gkgoel1937@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Wandahl,> > You are right. Mercury can not be killer.> > Venus is powerfully killer. It is placed in own and 7th house . It> is aspected by both Ketu (represents mistakes and sudden events).> > and Saturn. In Navamsa ,it is debilitated. In transit it again> aspected by Saturn. Venus, Ketu and Saturn are together in transit.> > If you will use True Citra AYANAMSA , YOUR prediction will further> improve.Kindly give a try.> > Regards,> > > > > > G.K.GOEL> > Ph: 09350311433> > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR> > NEW DELHI-110 076> > INDIA > > > > > > > > > > Finn Wandahl <finn.wandahl@ >> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Thursday, 22 November, 2007 1:55:40 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Death due to> accident--astrologi cal reason (Clarification)> > > > Dear Mr. Chandra Hari,> > > > >>...What is the connection between Scorpio Lagna and ayanamsa here...<<> > > > Please, you yourself has mentioned that this man died in Kuja Dasa,> > BUDHA Bhukti. But according to my calculation (based on Lahiri> > ayanamsa) he died in Mars Dasa, VENUS bhukti. This means, either you> > are introducing another ayanamsa here, or you have done some wrong> > calculations.> > > > >>...Those who want to learn in the spirit of sastra must study them> > seriously... <<> > > > Yes, I most certainly agree to this. But perhaps, contrary to all> > others, you believe to have found out the only true spirit of sastra... > > > > >>...To play fraud on the public any ayanamsa will do along with> > sociology psychology.. .<<> > > > Who is playing fraud on the public on ayanamsa? You or me? > > > > >>...This looks to be great wisdom. Application of mythology to> > astrology = mystrology?. ..<<> > > > Astrology is in fact a cognitive science, which is very much based on> > cosmology and mythology, no matter if we like it or not.> > > > Very friendly,> > Finn Wandahl> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "K Chandra Hari"> > <chandrahari81@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear friend,> > > > > > What is the connection between Scorpio Lagna and ayanamsa here. I> am not> > > using any ayanamsa which will cause a change in Lagna. Elaboration is> > > required for 'hair splitting with advanced techniques'. With the> correct> > > value of ayanamsa simple classical rules are sufficient. Who needs> > > elaboration to understand that 6th lord signifies accident and 6th to> > > 6th i.e. 11 as well. 6th lord in 11 th is a double cause for accident.> > > For Scorpio Lagna, Mercury is greatly evil. Mercury is dispositor of> > > Mars.> > > > > > Keep a little of the brain for some 'lateral' thinking and open> mind. On> > > Ayanamsa my work is added as file in the group and also the paper> > > published in IJHS which disproves the Saha_Lahiri report on which> > > validity of Citrapaksha is claimed. Those who want to learn in the> > > spirit of sastra must study them seriously.> > > > > > To play fraud on the public any ayanamsa will do along with sociology> > > and psychology.> > > > > > chandra hari> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Finn Wandahl"> > > <finn.wandahl@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Mr. Chandra Hari,> > > >> > > > Please, if you want to argue in favour of the Scorpio Lagna, and to> > > > introduce a different Ayanamsa at the same time, then you need to be> > > > much more elaborate.> > > >> > > > Very friendly,> > > > Finn Wandahl> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "K Chandra Hari"> > > > chandrahari81@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > When Kuja has become Maraka in Budha's house in 11th what if the> > > native> > > > > had died in Kuja dasa - Budha bhukti?> > > > >> > > > > Kuja owns 6th house and Budha owns 8th and 11th. 6th is the> house of> > > > > accident and injury and 11th is 6th from 6th. These are simple> > > classical> > > > > indications. Why to split the hair?> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we> have it on http://in.promos. / groups> >> DELETE button is history. Unlimited mail storage is just a click away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Dear Finn ji, I appreciate your guru bhakti. But it was facts mentioned by goal and me on this regard - even though I don't have the opinion that the minor difference of 57 seconds is going to make any difference in normal chart readings. In my opinion - whether one use Lahari Ayanamsa, True Chitra paksha Ayanamsa, True Ayanamsa of C.Hari, KP (Ciril Fagan)Ayanamsa, or Kurush's Ayansa and so is not important as he can predict and arrive at correct results based on the data provided to him. Astrology is for predict the correct results - if that can be arrived at, any method is welcome - that is the motto of all practicing astrologers. Individual opinions or scholarly conclusions may differ, but what matters for a normal result hungry practical astrologer are RESULS. If for you, your approach serves the purpose – fine – continue using it, what ever others say. Ya - me, you and many others - we are all practical people. Love, Sreenadh , " Finn Wandahl " <finn.wandahl wrote: > > Dear Sreenadh, > > My mentors, being veteran astrologers like the late Manik Chand Jain > and a few others, would normally refer to the Lahiri ayanamsa as > Chitra Paksha ayanamsa. They understood it as being one and the same > thing. However, I don't remember having ever heard the term " True " in > connection to Chitra Paksha ayanamsa. It was only Chitra Paksha > Ayanamsa or Lahiri ayanamsa, which was based on exact opposition to > Spica (Chitra) and the zero year of this ayanamsa-value was 285 AD. > > :-) > > Finn Wandahl > > > , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > Dear Finn ji, > > I think there could be a confusion. > > * Lahari Ayanamsa: Lahari calculated AD.285 as the Zero Ayanamsa year > > (which is wrong as per our modified understanding), but still stated > > that the point against Citra star should be used to calculate > > Ayanamsa. The Rashtriya Panjanga adopted this zero Ayanamsa year AD > > 285, and based all their calculations on that. The Ayanamsa > > calculated by accepting AD 285 as the Zero Ayanamsa year is known as > > Lahari Ayanamsa (which is NOT true Chitra paksha ayanamsa). It is > > seems that this what you are speaking about as Lahari Ayanamsa. > > * True Chitra Paksha Ayanamsa: This Ayanamsa is calculated based on > > the exact point opposite to Chitra star. I am not sure whether any > > astrological software currently gives longitudes based on the same. > > It seems that this is what Goal ji is speaking about with the > > words 'True Citra Paksha Ayanamsa'. > > Please correct me - If I am wrong in my understanding about your's > > and Goal ji's views. > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > > , " Finn Wandahl " > > <finn.wandahl@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mr. Goel, > > > > > > >>...If you will use True Citra AYANAMSA , YOUR prediction will > > > further improve.Kindly give a try...<< > > > > > > I think you may have misunderstood me. I always use Lahiri ayanamsa, > > > which is in fact the same as what you call Citra ayanamsa. > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > Finn Wandahl > > > > > > > > > , Gopal Goel > > > <gkgoel1937@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Wandahl, > > > > You are right. Mercury can not be killer. > > > > Venus is powerfully killer. It is placed in own and 7th house . It > > > is aspected by both Ketu (represents mistakes and sudden events). > > > > and Saturn. In Navamsa ,it is debilitated. In transit it again > > > aspected by Saturn. Venus, Ketu and Saturn are together in transit. > > > > If you will use True Citra AYANAMSA , YOUR prediction will further > > > improve.Kindly give a try. > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > > > Ph: 09350311433 > > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > > > INDIA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Finn Wandahl <finn.wandahl@> > > > > > > > > Thursday, 22 November, 2007 1:55:40 AM > > > > Re: Death due to > > > accident--astrological reason (Clarification) > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Chandra Hari, > > > > > > > > >>...What is the connection between Scorpio Lagna and ayanamsa > > here...<< > > > > > > > > Please, you yourself has mentioned that this man died in Kuja > > Dasa, > > > > BUDHA Bhukti. But according to my calculation (based on Lahiri > > > > ayanamsa) he died in Mars Dasa, VENUS bhukti. This means, either > > you > > > > are introducing another ayanamsa here, or you have done some wrong > > > > calculations. > > > > > > > > >>...Those who want to learn in the spirit of sastra must study > > them > > > > seriously... << > > > > > > > > Yes, I most certainly agree to this. But perhaps, contrary to all > > > > others, you believe to have found out the only true spirit of > > sastra... > > > > > > > > >>...To play fraud on the public any ayanamsa will do along with > > > > sociology psychology.. .<< > > > > > > > > Who is playing fraud on the public on ayanamsa? You or me? > > > > > > > > >>...This looks to be great wisdom. Application of mythology to > > > > astrology = mystrology?. ..<< > > > > > > > > Astrology is in fact a cognitive science, which is very much > > based on > > > > cosmology and mythology, no matter if we like it or not. > > > > > > > > Very friendly, > > > > Finn Wandahl > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " K Chandra > > Hari " > > > > <chandrahari81@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > > > > > > What is the connection between Scorpio Lagna and ayanamsa here. > > I > > > am not > > > > > using any ayanamsa which will cause a change in Lagna. > > Elaboration is > > > > > required for 'hair splitting with advanced techniques'. With the > > > correct > > > > > value of ayanamsa simple classical rules are sufficient. Who > > needs > > > > > elaboration to understand that 6th lord signifies accident and > > 6th to > > > > > 6th i.e. 11 as well. 6th lord in 11 th is a double cause for > > accident. > > > > > For Scorpio Lagna, Mercury is greatly evil. Mercury is > > dispositor of > > > > > Mars. > > > > > > > > > > Keep a little of the brain for some 'lateral' thinking and open > > > mind. On > > > > > Ayanamsa my work is added as file in the group and also the > > paper > > > > > published in IJHS which disproves the Saha_Lahiri report on > > which > > > > > validity of Citrapaksha is claimed. Those who want to learn in > > the > > > > > spirit of sastra must study them seriously. > > > > > > > > > > To play fraud on the public any ayanamsa will do along with > > sociology > > > > > and psychology. > > > > > > > > > > chandra hari > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Finn > > Wandahl " > > > > > <finn.wandahl@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Chandra Hari, > > > > > > > > > > > > Please, if you want to argue in favour of the Scorpio Lagna, > > and to > > > > > > introduce a different Ayanamsa at the same time, then you > > need to be > > > > > > much more elaborate. > > > > > > > > > > > > Very friendly, > > > > > > Finn Wandahl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " K > > Chandra Hari " > > > > > > chandrahari81@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When Kuja has become Maraka in Budha's house in 11th what > > if the > > > > > native > > > > > > > had died in Kuja dasa - Budha bhukti? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kuja owns 6th house and Budha owns 8th and 11th. 6th is the > > > house of > > > > > > > accident and injury and 11th is 6th from 6th. These are > > simple > > > > > classical > > > > > > > indications. Why to split the hair? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we > > > have it on http://in.promos./groups > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Dear Goal ji, Thanks for the info. Love, Sreenadh , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: > > Dear Sreenadh, > YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS CORRECT. > The difinition of Citra Ayanamsa is: > Ayanamsa== Tropical longitude of Star Citra -- 180 deg. > No back calculation will be needed. > Modern Astronomy can give the longitude with an accuracy of 0.04 " . > Till software's adopts this method , you may get the Citra AYANAMSA by offsetting > Lahiri's value by 57' for era 1950 to 2050. > Regards,, > > G.K.GOEL > Ph: 09350311433 > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > NEW DELHI-110 076 > INDIA > > > > > Sreenadh <sreesog > > Thursday, 22 November, 2007 7:07:08 PM > Re: Lahari Ayanamsa & True Citra Ayanamsa > > Dear Finn ji, > I think there could be a confusion. > * Lahari Ayanamsa: Lahari calculated AD.285 as the Zero Ayanamsa year > (which is wrong as per our modified understanding) , but still stated > that the point against Citra star should be used to calculate > Ayanamsa. The Rashtriya Panjanga adopted this zero Ayanamsa year AD > 285, and based all their calculations on that. The Ayanamsa > calculated by accepting AD 285 as the Zero Ayanamsa year is known as > Lahari Ayanamsa (which is NOT true Chitra paksha ayanamsa). It is > seems that this what you are speaking about as Lahari Ayanamsa. > * True Chitra Paksha Ayanamsa: This Ayanamsa is calculated based on > the exact point opposite to Chitra star. I am not sure whether any > astrological software currently gives longitudes based on the same. > It seems that this is what Goal ji is speaking about with the > words 'True Citra Paksha Ayanamsa'. > Please correct me - If I am wrong in my understanding about your's > and Goal ji's views. > Love, > Sreenadh > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Finn Wandahl " > <finn.wandahl@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Goel, > > > > >>...If you will use True Citra AYANAMSA , YOUR prediction will > > further improve.Kindly give a try...<< > > > > I think you may have misunderstood me. I always use Lahiri ayanamsa, > > which is in fact the same as what you call Citra ayanamsa. > > > > :-) > > > > Finn Wandahl > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Gopal Goel > > <gkgoel1937@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Wandahl, > > > You are right. Mercury can not be killer. > > > Venus is powerfully killer. It is placed in own and 7th house . It > > is aspected by both Ketu (represents mistakes and sudden events). > > > and Saturn. In Navamsa ,it is debilitated. In transit it again > > aspected by Saturn. Venus, Ketu and Saturn are together in transit. > > > If you will use True Citra AYANAMSA , YOUR prediction will further > > improve.Kindly give a try. > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL > > > Ph: 09350311433 > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > > INDIA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Finn Wandahl <finn.wandahl@ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Thursday, 22 November, 2007 1:55:40 AM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Death due to > > accident--astrologi cal reason (Clarification) > > > > > > Dear Mr. Chandra Hari, > > > > > > >>...What is the connection between Scorpio Lagna and ayanamsa > here...<< > > > > > > Please, you yourself has mentioned that this man died in Kuja > Dasa, > > > BUDHA Bhukti. But according to my calculation (based on Lahiri > > > ayanamsa) he died in Mars Dasa, VENUS bhukti. This means, either > you > > > are introducing another ayanamsa here, or you have done some wrong > > > calculations. > > > > > > >>...Those who want to learn in the spirit of sastra must study > them > > > seriously... << > > > > > > Yes, I most certainly agree to this. But perhaps, contrary to all > > > others, you believe to have found out the only true spirit of > sastra... > > > > > > >>...To play fraud on the public any ayanamsa will do along with > > > sociology psychology.. .<< > > > > > > Who is playing fraud on the public on ayanamsa? You or me? > > > > > > >>...This looks to be great wisdom. Application of mythology to > > > astrology = mystrology?. ..<< > > > > > > Astrology is in fact a cognitive science, which is very much > based on > > > cosmology and mythology, no matter if we like it or not. > > > > > > Very friendly, > > > Finn Wandahl > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " K Chandra > Hari " > > > <chandrahari81@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > > > > What is the connection between Scorpio Lagna and ayanamsa here. > I > > am not > > > > using any ayanamsa which will cause a change in Lagna. > Elaboration is > > > > required for 'hair splitting with advanced techniques'. With the > > correct > > > > value of ayanamsa simple classical rules are sufficient. Who > needs > > > > elaboration to understand that 6th lord signifies accident and > 6th to > > > > 6th i.e. 11 as well. 6th lord in 11 th is a double cause for > accident. > > > > For Scorpio Lagna, Mercury is greatly evil. Mercury is > dispositor of > > > > Mars. > > > > > > > > Keep a little of the brain for some 'lateral' thinking and open > > mind. On > > > > Ayanamsa my work is added as file in the group and also the > paper > > > > published in IJHS which disproves the Saha_Lahiri report on > which > > > > validity of Citrapaksha is claimed. Those who want to learn in > the > > > > spirit of sastra must study them seriously. > > > > > > > > To play fraud on the public any ayanamsa will do along with > sociology > > > > and psychology. > > > > > > > > chandra hari > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Finn > Wandahl " > > > > <finn.wandahl@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Chandra Hari, > > > > > > > > > > Please, if you want to argue in favour of the Scorpio Lagna, > and to > > > > > introduce a different Ayanamsa at the same time, then you > need to be > > > > > much more elaborate. > > > > > > > > > > Very friendly, > > > > > Finn Wandahl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " K > Chandra Hari " > > > > > chandrahari81@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When Kuja has become Maraka in Budha's house in 11th what > if the > > > > native > > > > > > had died in Kuja dasa - Budha bhukti? > > > > > > > > > > > > Kuja owns 6th house and Budha owns 8th and 11th. 6th is the > > house of > > > > > > accident and injury and 11th is 6th from 6th. These are > simple > > > > classical > > > > > > indications. Why to split the hair? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we > > have it on http://in.promos. / groups > > > > DELETE button is history. Unlimited mail storage is just a click away. Go to https://edit.india./config/eval_register > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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