Re:death due to accident short life - nadi rules - 22 11 2007

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Dear Sirthank y for yr instant response one of my friend Mr Sivasadan ravi written lot of tamil books on nadi rules (not on palm leaves) (must have heard RG Rao of Bangalore)in thissystem there is no lagna time etc based on kharagha the results given jupiter jeeva karagha here hemmed between malefic sun raghu (maranakaragha) next to jupiter is mars accident karagha and jupiter is along saturn malefkc deeath karagha so jupitr iscrushed btween sun raghu saturn and mars and transit of kethu and saturn on jupiter natal position whenever jupiter is hemmed beween raghu and mars more particularly raghu 2nd to jupiter and during transit jupiter transited by raghu mars it is danger of accident and sh0rt life and there should be some relieving aspect some planets together or 11 and 3 of the same there can be some relieftheauthor friend written books with plenty ofexmaples of course books written in

tamili am so convinced of his basic rules y can check up with many vips unnatural deaths the nature of signs and the karagha and transit playsa vital role in determining incidentsmembers attempting blind charts however in real case lagna rules everything being disbuted and argued and cannot give concretre rules and if any one has given to the native in advnace it is really great one of my neighbour close .. son died in a lake in after missing for several months in 1995 july his dob 23 8 1967 scorpio lagna exact time of birth not noted i saw the hor. but could not say anything bad as he is next to my door and the boy was missing for 6 mohths in a foreign country dead body floted in a lake he went to many astrologer did pariharas but of no use the dasa of 3rd 5th 7 th are general marakas depending on age of native in the above case jupiter in cancerexalted if y put the planets in same house mars raghu to to ninth house

to mithuna and raghu to leo jupiter is with saturn moon hemmed btween mars kethu and in leo sun venus mercury and venus and raghu it also confirms the transit we have to take up real cases and discuss in forum very interesting and some good new thoughts we can digest thank y sir with my best regards and wishes SAIRAMAN 22 11 2007 8 55 AMthank y sir Finn Wandahl <finn.wandahl wrote: Thank you, Sairamanji, Yes, I have often seen Sagittarius Rashi playing a malefic role in connection to accidents, violent

attacks, suicides etc. I think it is indicated in the symbolism itself, meaning Sagittarius is described as half horse (vehicle) and half man armed with bow and arrow and thus violent and accident-prone. The same kind of symbolism can be seen in Varaha Mihira's description of the 36 drekkanas, where a number of the drekkanas are armed with different kinds of weapons. These armed drekkanas are dangerous and indicating accidents etc. I often use these drekkanas in connection with Prashna, but I suspect thay could also show some interesting details in the Libra-Lagna chart. By the way, there was one more very important indication of Vehicular accident available in the Libra-Lagna chart, that I didn't get orround to in my analysis. Please observe that Ketu is in the 4th house. According to Puranic mythology Ketu got his head chopped off, which is an indication of being accident-prone. Also Horasara mentioned

"Kujavatketu". But most important, if I remember correctly, is the fact that Ketu is placed in the Nakshatra of Mars, which makes it all the more malefic with Mars in the 12th. Very friendly, Finn Wandahl , sairam nat <sairaman53 wrote: > > nice veryconvincing > > more particularly the point that sagatarius vizdhanus rasi is so called accidental sign as i have observed > > lagnathipathi in 8th house though own house it is 8th of course and str of a maleic planet viz mars karagha for accident who is in 12th sign of lagna > > all the more 11th house the 8th of 4th occupied by 4th lord the dispositor of karmic planets raghu the dispositors of raghu and kethu the karmic control planets will give imporant events in

life in general > > out of so many msg yrs is highly convincing adaptable in general > > > thank y sir with regards > > > SAIRAMAN > > > > > > > > > Finn Wandahl <finn.wandahl wrote: Dear D. Trivedi, > > >>The birth details are correct.< > I agree, this chart with Libra-Ascendant, Moon in 3rd, Ketu in 4th, > Venus in 8th, Mercury in 9th, Jupiter & Saturn in 11th and Mars in the > 12th house, indicates a person who could very well die early due to a > Vehicle accident. For Vehicular accidents certain combinations in this > chart are very important: > > 1) In this particular case with Libra-Ascendant, the 1st lord Venus > (the person) is in the 8th house indicating danger. > > 2) The 8th-lord Venus (Vehicles) being debilitated in Virgo Navamsa > indicates danger from Vehicles. So Venus give a double indication of > Vehicle accident. > > 3) 1st-lord Venus is in the Nakshatra of Mars, who is the natural > Karaka for accidents. > > 4) Further more Mars is the the Gnati-karaka as per the 7-karaka > scheme, which means in this case Mars has become the Chara-Karaka for > accidents > > 5) and finally Mars is in the 12th which is a very malefic > combination. So Mars gives a treble indication of Vehicle accident. > > 6) Chandra Lagna is in Sagittarius and this by itself is a combination > of the 8th-lord in the 1st house. Further more Sagittarius is > considered to be the sign of Accidents, especially when there are > Malefics (Sun & Rahu) in the 8th house from Chandra Lagna. > > 7) Saturn, the 4th-lord, indicating Vehicles, is in the 11th house, > which is the 8th from the 4th house. > > 8) Further more Saturn is in Sagittarius Navamsa indicating accidents. > So this Saturn gives a double indication of Vehicular accidents. > > >>There are no indication of Alpa Aayu or Madhya Aayu.< > Please, this is not correct! > > Kindly observe that the 1st-lord Venus is in the 8th house in own > sign, but debilitated in Navamsa. According to the nadis Navamsa > position always prevails, and therefore this Venus makes a double > indication of short span of life. > > Also please observe this man was running Mars-Dasa, Venus Bhukti, and > both these planets are Marakas, not only according to BPHS-rules but > also according to several kinds of nadi-rules. > > Further Transit-Jupiter in

Scorpio and Transit-Saturn in Leo were both > aspecting his 1st-lord-Venus in the 8th house. > > Very friendly, > Finn Wandahl > > , dushyant trivedi > <trivedi20@> wrote: > > > > Dear Krishnaji and Sreenadh, > > > > The birth details are correct. There are no indication of Alpa > Aayu or Madhya Aayu. > > > > Also the Vimshottari Dasha is of Mars-Venus-Venus. > > > > D D Trivedi > > > > Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote: > > Dear Krishan ji, Trivedi ji, > > Look at the Mrityu bhaga and 64th Navamsa lord - you hope you will > > locate the reason. By the way, I am yet to check the chart, it is just > > and educated guess. > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > > , Krishnamurthy > > Seetharama <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Trivediji, > > > > > > I too couldn't justify death at young age. Are you sure that the > > birth details are accurate? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Krishna > > > > > > dushyant trivedi <trivedi20@> wrote: > > > Dear Learned Astrologers, > > > > > > I am giving below the birth details of Husband , wife and > > daughter. The husband died on the spot in an accident on 21.10.2007 > > while riding a scooter at Khedbrahma in North Gujarat. Kindly analyse

> > and if possible give astrological reasons for the death. > > > > > > Husband: 26.071980 born at 15.56 at Khedbrahma in north Gujarat > > Lat 24.03N, Longitude 23.04e > > > > > > Wife: 04.10.1981; 07.15am place Modasa, Gujarat > > > Daughter: 14.09.2006; 18.55, place Modasa, Gujarat > > > > > > I could not get any astrological reason for the death. > > > > > > D D Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Mobile. > >

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Dear Sai ram ji,

==>

one of my neighbour close .. son died in a lake in after missing for

several months in 1995 july his dob 23 8 1967 scorpio lagna exact

time of birth not noted i saw the hor. but could not say anything bad

as he is next to my door and the boy was missing for 6 mohths in a

foreign country dead body floted in a lake he went to many astrologer

did pariharas but of no use

<==

DOB: 23-Aug-1967; Asc - Scorpio

Death: July 1995 (Death at the age of 28 years)

Dasa-Antara-Paryantara at the time of Death: Ke-Ju-Ve

Cause of Death: Falling in lake.

 

I request you to see the similarity between this chart and the

current chart of accident.

- Both the charts have Scorpio lagna

- In both the 7th and 12th lord Venus is involved (either in Antara

or Paryantara)

- In both a Marka house lord (in this chart Ju, the 2nd HL) is

involved.

- In both the cases the Dasa relatd to 6th house was running! In

this chat Ke is placed in 6th and Ke in any house is supposed to give

the results of that house and the planets with which it is

associated. Ke is in 12th with 6th lord Ma and Gulika - and so

accident death a natural possibility.

- Ju the antara lord is in Cancer indicating lake; is the lord of

2nd house (a maraka house); Ju is in Ashtamamsa (i.e. 8th amsa in

cancer); But Ju being in exaltation we will not expect this bad

effects in that anthara - if not Ju is 64th Navamsa lord (this must

be true - i believe)

- As per 'Parivritti' (harmonics) rule the 22nd Drekkana lord from

Moon is MARS - who is with Ke and should give result in Ke Dasa.

- In this chart too a 7th-8th association is visible with 7th lord

Venus and 8th lord Mercury placed together in 10th house. And it was

Venus Dasa running - who should give the result of this combination

as well.

You may find more similarities on comparison and may find that the

same or similar principles are at work in both the cases.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, sairam nat

<sairaman53 wrote:

>

> Dear Sir

>

>

> thank y for yr instant response

>

> one of my friend Mr Sivasadan ravi written lot of tamil books on

nadi rules (not on palm leaves) (must have heard RG Rao of Bangalore)

>

> in thissystem there is no lagna time etc based on kharagha the

results given

>

> jupiter jeeva karagha here hemmed between malefic sun raghu

(maranakaragha) next to jupiter is mars accident karagha and jupiter

is along saturn malefkc deeath karagha

>

> so jupitr iscrushed btween sun raghu saturn and mars and transit of

kethu and saturn on jupiter natal position

>

> whenever jupiter is hemmed beween raghu and mars more

particularly raghu 2nd to jupiter and during transit jupiter

transited by raghu mars it is danger of accident and sh0rt life and

there should be some relieving aspect some planets together or 11 and

3 of the same there can be some relief

>

> theauthor friend written books with plenty ofexmaples of course

books written in tamil

>

> i am so convinced of his basic rules

>

> y can check up with many vips unnatural deaths

>

> the nature of signs and the karagha and transit playsa vital role

in determining incidents

>

> members attempting blind charts however in real case lagna rules

everything being disbuted and argued and cannot give concretre rules

and if any one has given to the native in advnace it is really great

>

> one of my neighbour close .. son died in a lake in after missing

for several months in 1995 july his dob 23 8 1967 scorpio lagna exact

time of birth not noted i saw the hor. but could not say anything bad

as he is next to my door and the boy was missing for 6 mohths in a

foreign country dead body floted in a lake he went to many astrologer

did pariharas but of no use

>

> the dasa of 3rd 5th 7 th are general marakas depending on age of

native

>

> in the above case jupiter in cancerexalted if y put the planets in

same house mars raghu to to ninth house to mithuna and raghu to leo

jupiter is with saturn moon hemmed btween mars kethu and in leo sun

venus mercury and venus and raghu it also confirms the transit

>

> we have to take up real cases and discuss in forum very interesting

and some good new thoughts we can digest

>

> thank y sir with my best regards and wishes

>

>

> SAIRAMAN 22 11 2007 8 55 AM

>

> thank y sir

>

> Finn Wandahl <finn.wandahl

wrote: Thank you, Sairamanji,

>

> Yes, I have often seen Sagittarius Rashi playing a malefic role in

> connection to accidents, violent attacks, suicides etc. I think it

is

> indicated in the symbolism itself, meaning Sagittarius is

described as

> half horse (vehicle) and half man armed with bow and arrow and thus

> violent and accident-prone.

>

> The same kind of symbolism can be seen in Varaha Mihira's

description

> of the 36 drekkanas, where a number of the drekkanas are armed with

> different kinds of weapons. These armed drekkanas are dangerous and

> indicating accidents etc. I often use these drekkanas in connection

> with Prashna, but I suspect thay could also show some interesting

> details in the Libra-Lagna chart.

>

> By the way, there was one more very important indication of

Vehicular

> accident available in the Libra-Lagna chart, that I didn't get

orround

> to in my analysis. Please observe that Ketu is in the 4th house.

> According to Puranic mythology Ketu got his head chopped off,

which is

> an indication of being accident-prone. Also Horasara mentioned

> " Kujavatketu " . But most important, if I remember correctly, is the

> fact that Ketu is placed in the Nakshatra of Mars, which makes it

all

> the more malefic with Mars in the 12th.

>

> Very friendly,

> Finn Wandahl

>

> , sairam nat

> <sairaman53@> wrote:

> >

> > nice veryconvincing

> >

> > more particularly the point that sagatarius vizdhanus rasi is so

> called accidental sign as i have observed

> >

> > lagnathipathi in 8th house though own house it is 8th of course

and

> str of a maleic planet viz mars karagha for accident who is in

12th

> sign of lagna

> >

> > all the more 11th house the 8th of 4th occupied by 4th lord the

> dispositor of karmic planets raghu the dispositors of raghu and

kethu

> the karmic control planets will give imporant events in life in

general

> >

> > out of so many msg yrs is highly convincing adaptable in general

> >

> >

> > thank y sir with regards

> >

> >

> > SAIRAMAN

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Finn Wandahl <finn.wandahl@> wrote:

> Dear D. Trivedi,

> >

> > >>The birth details are correct.<<

> >

> > I agree, this chart with Libra-Ascendant, Moon in 3rd, Ketu in

4th,

> > Venus in 8th, Mercury in 9th, Jupiter & Saturn in 11th and Mars

in the

> > 12th house, indicates a person who could very well die early

due to a

> > Vehicle accident. For Vehicular accidents certain combinations

in this

> > chart are very important:

> >

> > 1) In this particular case with Libra-Ascendant, the 1st lord

Venus

> > (the person) is in the 8th house indicating danger.

> >

> > 2) The 8th-lord Venus (Vehicles) being debilitated in Virgo

Navamsa

> > indicates danger from Vehicles. So Venus give a double

indication of

> > Vehicle accident.

> >

> > 3) 1st-lord Venus is in the Nakshatra of Mars, who is the

natural

> > Karaka for accidents.

> >

> > 4) Further more Mars is the the Gnati-karaka as per the 7-karaka

> > scheme, which means in this case Mars has become the Chara-

Karaka for

> > accidents

> >

> > 5) and finally Mars is in the 12th which is a very malefic

> > combination. So Mars gives a treble indication of Vehicle

accident.

> >

> > 6) Chandra Lagna is in Sagittarius and this by itself is a

combination

> > of the 8th-lord in the 1st house. Further more Sagittarius is

> > considered to be the sign of Accidents, especially when there

are

> > Malefics (Sun & Rahu) in the 8th house from Chandra Lagna.

> >

> > 7) Saturn, the 4th-lord, indicating Vehicles, is in the 11th

house,

> > which is the 8th from the 4th house.

> >

> > 8) Further more Saturn is in Sagittarius Navamsa indicating

accidents.

> > So this Saturn gives a double indication of Vehicular accidents.

> >

> > >>There are no indication of Alpa Aayu or Madhya Aayu.<<

> >

> > Please, this is not correct!

> >

> > Kindly observe that the 1st-lord Venus is in the 8th house in

own

> > sign, but debilitated in Navamsa. According to the nadis Navamsa

> > position always prevails, and therefore this Venus makes a

double

> > indication of short span of life.

> >

> > Also please observe this man was running Mars-Dasa, Venus

Bhukti, and

> > both these planets are Marakas, not only according to BPHS-

rules but

> > also according to several kinds of nadi-rules.

> >

> > Further Transit-Jupiter in Scorpio and Transit-Saturn in Leo

were both

> > aspecting his 1st-lord-Venus in the 8th house.

> >

> > Very friendly,

> > Finn Wandahl

> >

> > , dushyant

trivedi

> > <trivedi20@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Krishnaji and Sreenadh,

> > >

> > > The birth details are correct. There are no indication of

Alpa

> > Aayu or Madhya Aayu.

> > >

> > > Also the Vimshottari Dasha is of Mars-Venus-Venus.

> > >

> > > D D Trivedi

> > >

> > > Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:

> > > Dear Krishan ji, Trivedi ji,

> > > Look at the Mrityu bhaga and 64th Navamsa lord - you hope you

will

> > > locate the reason. By the way, I am yet to check the chart,

it is

> just

> > > and educated guess.

> > > Love,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> > > , Krishnamurthy

> > > Seetharama <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Trivediji,

> > > >

> > > > I too couldn't justify death at young age. Are you sure

that the

> > > birth details are accurate?

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Krishna

> > > >

> > > > dushyant trivedi <trivedi20@> wrote:

> > > > Dear Learned Astrologers,

> > > >

> > > > I am giving below the birth details of Husband , wife and

> > > daughter. The husband died on the spot in an accident on

21.10.2007

> > > while riding a scooter at Khedbrahma in North Gujarat. Kindly

analyse

> > > and if possible give astrological reasons for the death.

> > > >

> > > > Husband: 26.071980 born at 15.56 at Khedbrahma in north

Gujarat

> > > Lat 24.03N, Longitude 23.04e

> > > >

> > > > Wife: 04.10.1981; 07.15am place Modasa, Gujarat

> > > > Daughter: 14.09.2006; 18.55, place Modasa, Gujarat

> > > >

> > > > I could not get any astrological reason for the death.

> > > >

> > > > D D Trivedi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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