Interpreting Vimsottari Dasa (Sreenadhji, your opinion is sought)

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All,I am trying to come up with a table that simplifies vimsottari dasa analysis.Pls. add your learnings/ views to this so that we can have a more effective analysisRegardsKiranMain period lord sub period lord ResultsFunctional Malefic Functional Malefic SufferingFunctional Benefic Functional Benefic Good resultsFunctional Malefic Functional Benefic Hope/mild good only, Good results only if FB is strongFunctional Benefic Functional Malefic Mild Suffering, Grave Suffering only if Functional malefic is very strong

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Dear Kiran,

Being holistic subject astrology is outside statistics and

tabulation - you may take some actual practice in USING astrology to

understand this. That is why I am preparing a write-up especially for

you - and I need you to USE IT here in this group during post mortem

chart readings, blind chart analysis, Prashna readings etc. It is

ACTUAL PRACTICE that helps us to understand the merit or demerit of

approaches.

Note 1: Further communication on this thread only after I upload

that write-up here, and after you went through it. I have completed

it almost 75% and hope to upload it before Sunday or max by Sunday.

Note 2: RESULTS does not mean, vague words like - Suffering, Good

results, Hope/mild good only, Mild Suffering, Grave Suffering - etc.

Results means 'specific results' which are much beyond such vague

general statements which does not hit anywhere.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, Kiran R

<kiran.rama wrote:

>

> All,

> I am trying to come up with a table that simplifies vimsottari dasa

analysis.

>

> Pls. add your learnings/ views to this so that we can have a more

effective analysis

>

> Regards

> Kiran

> Main period lord sub period lord Results

>

> Functional Malefic Functional Malefic Suffering

> Functional Benefic Functional Benefic Good results

> Functional Malefic Functional Benefic Hope/mild good only,

Good results only if FB is strong

> Functional Benefic Functional Malefic Mild Suffering, Grave

Suffering only if Functional malefic is very

strong

>

>

>

>

> Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Click here to know

how.

>

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Dear Sreenadhji,

With due respect to your knowledge as well as civility, I donot

understand the meaning of your sentence " Being holistic subject,

astrology is outside statistics and tabulation " . All scientific

thinking is subject to laws of statistics and tabulation. If each

birth chart in this universe follows a unique interpretation, we

cannot call it a science. It would be something of a sixth sense,

magic reading and end up in what it is primarily called at present i.e

a myth.

A scinetific thought is subject to laws of statistics, functional

relationships and standardisation. This is my main criticism of

astrological research. We try to interpret each chart according to the

event we know by any of the endless means we have at our disposal like

Rasi lagna, Chandar lagna, Arudh lagna or different types of dasas or

through planet lordship etc. We never make an attempt to standardise

things so as to bring out a permanent or near permanent relationship

leading to standardisation techniques.

Sometime back, I did a small experiment with 29 charts of dead people

to know the dasa in which they died.Only 32% died in the dasa of

either marak, 23% died in Rahu dasa, 13% in that of Ketu, 3% in the

dasa of 8th lord and the remaining 29% in other dasas. While I would

not say that this debunks the marak dasa theory in Astrology, I would

say that these have to be linked to some other variables. And it is

only through further sophistication and group research like this that

we would be nearer to evolving predictable tecniques.

I therefore do not agree with your stipulation that astrological laws

are not subject to statistical laws.

Regards,

P.N.Razdan

 

, " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Kiran,

> Being holistic subject astrology is outside statistics and

> tabulation - you may take some actual practice in USING astrology to

> understand this. That is why I am preparing a write-up especially for

> you - and I need you to USE IT here in this group during post mortem

> chart readings, blind chart analysis, Prashna readings etc. It is

> ACTUAL PRACTICE that helps us to understand the merit or demerit of

> approaches.

> Note 1: Further communication on this thread only after I upload

> that write-up here, and after you went through it. I have completed

> it almost 75% and hope to upload it before Sunday or max by Sunday.

> Note 2: RESULTS does not mean, vague words like - Suffering, Good

> results, Hope/mild good only, Mild Suffering, Grave Suffering - etc.

> Results means 'specific results' which are much beyond such vague

> general statements which does not hit anywhere.

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , Kiran R

> <kiran.rama@> wrote:

> >

> > All,

> > I am trying to come up with a table that simplifies vimsottari dasa

> analysis.

> >

> > Pls. add your learnings/ views to this so that we can have a more

> effective analysis

> >

> > Regards

> > Kiran

> > Main period lord sub period lord Results

> >

> > Functional Malefic Functional Malefic Suffering

> > Functional Benefic Functional Benefic Good results

> > Functional Malefic Functional Benefic Hope/mild good only,

> Good results only if FB is strong

> > Functional Benefic Functional Malefic Mild Suffering, Grave

> Suffering only if Functional malefic is very

> strong

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Click here to know

> how.

> >

>

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Dear Razdan ji, I am very pleased to read your mail. Because, I too share similar sentiments and opinions about predictive astrology. There is no doubt that every chart is unique. Even then, our sages have defined so many yogas. Why? Aren't these yogas working even today? Did they put them in writing without veryfying them statistically? I feel it is necessary to build on this great foundation that we have inherited. Regards, Krishnapnrazdan <pnrazdan wrote:

Dear Sreenadhji,With due respect to your knowledge as well as civility, I donotunderstand the meaning of your sentence "Being holistic subject,astrology is outside statistics and tabulation". All scientificthinking is subject to laws of statistics and tabulation. If eachbirth chart in this universe follows a unique interpretation, wecannot call it a science. It would be something of a sixth sense,magic reading and end up in what it is primarily called at present i.ea myth. A scinetific thought is subject to laws of statistics, functionalrelationships and standardisation. This is my main criticism ofastrological research. We try to interpret each chart according to theevent we know by any of the endless means we have at our disposal likeRasi lagna, Chandar lagna, Arudh lagna or different types of dasas orthrough planet lordship etc. We never make an attempt to standardisethings so as to bring out a permanent

or near permanent relationshipleading to standardisation techniques. Sometime back, I did a small experiment with 29 charts of dead peopleto know the dasa in which they died.Only 32% died in the dasa ofeither marak, 23% died in Rahu dasa, 13% in that of Ketu, 3% in thedasa of 8th lord and the remaining 29% in other dasas. While I wouldnot say that this debunks the marak dasa theory in Astrology, I wouldsay that these have to be linked to some other variables. And it isonly through further sophistication and group research like this thatwe would be nearer to evolving predictable tecniques.I therefore do not agree with your stipulation that astrological lawsare not subject to statistical laws.Regards,P.N.Razdan , "Sreenadh"<sreesog wrote:>> Dear Kiran,>

Being holistic subject astrology is outside statistics and > tabulation - you may take some actual practice in USING astrology to > understand this. That is why I am preparing a write-up especially for > you - and I need you to USE IT here in this group during post mortem > chart readings, blind chart analysis, Prashna readings etc. It is > ACTUAL PRACTICE that helps us to understand the merit or demerit of > approaches. > Note 1: Further communication on this thread only after I upload > that write-up here, and after you went through it. I have completed > it almost 75% and hope to upload it before Sunday or max by Sunday. > Note 2: RESULTS does not mean, vague words like - Suffering, Good > results, Hope/mild good only, Mild Suffering, Grave Suffering - etc. > Results means 'specific results' which are much beyond such vague > general statements which does not hit anywhere.

> Love,> Sreenadh > > , Kiran R > <kiran.rama@> wrote:> >> > All,> > I am trying to come up with a table that simplifies vimsottari dasa > analysis.> > > > Pls. add your learnings/ views to this so that we can have a more > effective analysis> > > > Regards> > Kiran> > Main period lord sub period lord Results> > > > Functional Malefic Functional Malefic Suffering> > Functional Benefic Functional Benefic Good results> > Functional Malefic Functional Benefic Hope/mild good only, > Good results only if FB is strong> > Functional Benefic Functional Malefic Mild Suffering, Grave > Suffering only if Functional malefic is very >

strong> > > > > > > > > > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Click here to know > how.> >>

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Dear Razdan ji,

==>

> With due respect to your knowledge as well as civility, I donot

> understand the meaning of your sentence " Being holistic subject,

> astrology is outside statistics and tabulation " .

<==

It is due to the very same reason that I requested Kiran ji to -

" Further communication on this thread only after I upload that write-

up here, and after you went through it " . I was already aware of such

argument possibilities - when things are to be know by USING it, and

by direct PRACTICE of the application of principles - there is no

point in talking about it - BEFORE it becomes clear through PRACTICE.

Wait for the file I mentioned and let Kiran go thought it (and you

too) and let us apply them - and see whether it is within the

tabulation and statistics you mention or not.

==>

> All scientific thinking is subject to laws of statistics and

> tabulation.

> If each birth chart in this universe follows a unique

> interpretation, we cannot call it a science.

<==

Astrology is NEITHER science NOR it follows the SCIENTIFIC METHODS.

Please go though the following document uploaded in the files section

to have a better understanding about the philosophy and approach of

astrology.

Sreenadh/

Base_of_Astrology.doc

==>

> Sometime back, I did a small experiment with 29 charts of dead

> people to know the dasa in which they died.Only 32% died in the

> dasa of either marak, 23% died in Rahu dasa, 13% in that of Ketu,

> 3% in the dasa of 8th lord and the remaining 29% in other dasas.

<==

That is cute. And that itself shows the futility of your

statistical approach.

==>

> I therefore do not agree with your stipulation that astrological

> laws are not subject to statistical laws.

<==

Of course you can disagree. But as of my current understanding

and knowledge is astrology is a Sastra (ancient advice) that follows

a though process called 'holistic approach' which is complementary to

the only other path 'analytical approach' followed by science through

a methodology called 'scientific approach'. Astrology does not use

nor depend upon scientific approach. (Please go through and

understand what scientific method is and how the approach of

astrology differ - the above document can help you in this, I believe)

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, " pnrazdan "

<pnrazdan wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadhji,

> With due respect to your knowledge as well as civility, I donot

> understand the meaning of your sentence " Being holistic subject,

> astrology is outside statistics and tabulation " . All scientific

> thinking is subject to laws of statistics and tabulation. If each

> birth chart in this universe follows a unique interpretation, we

> cannot call it a science. It would be something of a sixth sense,

> magic reading and end up in what it is primarily called at present

i.e

> a myth.

> A scinetific thought is subject to laws of statistics, functional

> relationships and standardisation. This is my main criticism of

> astrological research. We try to interpret each chart according to

the

> event we know by any of the endless means we have at our disposal

like

> Rasi lagna, Chandar lagna, Arudh lagna or different types of dasas

or

> through planet lordship etc. We never make an attempt to standardise

> things so as to bring out a permanent or near permanent relationship

> leading to standardisation techniques.

> Sometime back, I did a small experiment with 29 charts of dead

people

> to know the dasa in which they died.Only 32% died in the dasa of

> either marak, 23% died in Rahu dasa, 13% in that of Ketu, 3% in the

> dasa of 8th lord and the remaining 29% in other dasas. While I would

> not say that this debunks the marak dasa theory in Astrology, I

would

> say that these have to be linked to some other variables. And it is

> only through further sophistication and group research like this

that

> we would be nearer to evolving predictable tecniques.

> I therefore do not agree with your stipulation that astrological

laws

> are not subject to statistical laws.

> Regards,

> P.N.Razdan

>

> , " Sreenadh "

> <sreesog@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kiran,

> > Being holistic subject astrology is outside statistics and

> > tabulation - you may take some actual practice in USING astrology

to

> > understand this. That is why I am preparing a write-up especially

for

> > you - and I need you to USE IT here in this group during post

mortem

> > chart readings, blind chart analysis, Prashna readings etc. It is

> > ACTUAL PRACTICE that helps us to understand the merit or demerit

of

> > approaches.

> > Note 1: Further communication on this thread only after I

upload

> > that write-up here, and after you went through it. I have

completed

> > it almost 75% and hope to upload it before Sunday or max by

Sunday.

> > Note 2: RESULTS does not mean, vague words like - Suffering,

Good

> > results, Hope/mild good only, Mild Suffering, Grave Suffering -

etc.

> > Results means 'specific results' which are much beyond such vague

> > general statements which does not hit anywhere.

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> > , Kiran R

> > <kiran.rama@> wrote:

> > >

> > > All,

> > > I am trying to come up with a table that simplifies vimsottari

dasa

> > analysis.

> > >

> > > Pls. add your learnings/ views to this so that we can have a

more

> > effective analysis

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Kiran

> > > Main period lord sub period lord Results

> > >

> > > Functional Malefic Functional Malefic Suffering

> > > Functional Benefic Functional Benefic Good results

> > > Functional Malefic Functional Benefic Hope/mild good

only,

> > Good results only if FB is strong

> > > Functional Benefic Functional Malefic Mild Suffering,

Grave

> > Suffering only if Functional malefic is

very

> > strong

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Click here to

know

> > how.

> > >

> >

>