Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Dear frnds , Now we hav 3 yuga systems . One is puranic version and popular ,other is by aryabhatta and 3rd is put forwarded by swami yukteswar Giri maharaj . This i find tru search tho i hav his book .i am using net version Sri Yukteswar's teachings on the yugas --------------- An alternative view of the yuga cycle and timescale was taught by the 19th/20th-century Indian yogi Swami Sri Yukteswar Giri, guru of Paramahansa Yogananda. In his book, The Holy Science, Sri Yukteswar explains that the descending phase of Satya Yuga lasts 4800 years, Treta Yuga 3600 years, Dwapara Yuga 2400 years, and Kali Yuga 1200 years. The ascending phase of Kali Yuga then begins, also lasting 1200 years; and so on. The ascending phase of Kali Yuga began in September of 499 AD. Since September 1699, we have been in the ascending phase of Dwapara Yuga, according to Sri Yukteswar. In The Holy Science, Sri Yukteswar writes that the traditional or long count view is based on a misunderstanding. He says that at the end of the last descending Dvapara Yuga (about 700 BC), "Maharaja Yudhisthira, noticing the appearance of the dark Kali Yuga, made over his throne to his grandson [and]...together with all of his wise men...retired to the Himalaya Mountains...Thus there was none in the court...who could understand the principle of correctly accounting the ages of the several Yugas." According to Sri Yukteswar, nobody wanted to announce the bad news of the beginning of the ascending Kali Yuga, so they just kept adding years to the Kali date (at that time 2400 Kali). As the Kali began to ascend again, scholars of the time recognized that there was a mistake in the date (then being called 3600+ Kali, although their texts said Kali had only 1200 years). "By way of reconciliation, they fancied that 1200 years, the real age of Kali, were not the ordinary years of our earth, but were so many daiva (or deva) years ("years of the gods"), consisting of 12 daiva months of 30 daiva days each, with each daiva day being equal to one ordinary solar year of our earth. Hence according to these men 1200 years of Kali Yuga must be equal to 432,000 years of our earth." Sri Yukteswar explains that just as the cycle of day and night is caused by a celestial motion (the earth spinning on its axis in relation to the sun), and just as the cycle of the seasons are caused by a celestial motion (the earth with tilted axis orbiting the sun) so too is the yuga cycle (seen as the precession of the equinox), caused by a celestial motion. He explains this celestial motion is the movement of the whole solar system around another star. As our sun moves through this orbit it takes the solar system (and earth) closer to and then further from a point in space known as the "grand centre" also called 'Vishnunabhi', which is the seat of the creative power, 'Brahma', [which]...regulates...the mental virtue of the internal world." He implies that it is the proximity of the earth and sun to this grand centre that determines which season of man or yuga it is. Astronomers recognize that most stars orbit one or more companion stars. Many now believe our sister sun is Sirius, a nearby binary system comprised of a star in binary orbit around a white dwarf (a collapsed sun) Regrds Vijaya raghavan Guruvayur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 If it is Dvapara Yuga in which Swami Yukteshvar lived, how did he met with such an early demise? What is the longevity of human beings in Dvapara? 120 years = same as of Kali? Kali =1 Dvapara = 2 Treta = 3 Krta = 4 These are the simple meanings. 4800, 3600, 2400, 1200 concept of treating Divine years as solar years is not an original contribution from Swami Yukteshwar. As I can recollect such an interpretation can be found in the book of SB Dikshit and in the works of many others. In Kerala Kesari Balakrishna Pillai had discussed many such possibilities. Daftari has given a more scientific and authoritative account in his book on Indian Chronology. Yugas are defined in terms of Dharma and not in terms of scientific progress. So when we look at Dharma which is limbless now, can we say that Dvapara is running now? chandra hari , R Venkat <rdjvenkat wrote:>> i give below the excerpts i had typed and kept with me 2 years back.> > cheers> venkat> > ----> Concept of yugas by Sri Sri Yukteshwar Giri Swamy (Mahavatar Babaji's chief disciple Sri Sri Lahiri Mahasay's disciple)> > Day and night of Brahma as mentioned in Srimad Bhagavad Gita:> > "those who know Brahma's day as of one thousand yugas and night also as duration of one thousand yugas are the `knowers' of day night of Brahma"> > Manu Smriti which has dealt with this subject in much great details however has introduced the idea of different yugas before defining day & night of Brahma. It says:> > comprehend now proofs of day and night of Brahma including one > by one in short, of yugas" > > Manu Smriti define ordinary yugas-Krita, Treta, Dvapara & Kali:> > Four thousand years constitute a krita (satya) yuga, it has its sandhya and sandhyagsha (mutation periods of yuga dawn & yuga dusk) of same duration; the remaining three (yugas) and their sandhya and sandhyangsha are progressively shorter by one in thousands and hundreds. Accordingly durationf four yugas will be as follows:> > Yuga name yuga age sandhya sandhyangsha total> period period> > Krita yuga 4,000 yrs 400 yrs 400 yrs 4,800 yrs> Treta yuga 3,000 yrs 300 yrs 300 yrs 3,600 yrs> Dvapara yuga 2,000 yrs 200 yrs 200 yrs 2,400 yrs> Kali yuga 1,000 yrs 100 yrs 100 yrs 1,200 yrs> Total of the four yugas 12,000 years> > Daiva yuga> > The aggregate of the length of four Yuga periods is twelve thousand years, as can be seen. Manu Smriti defines this period as Daiva Yuga> > "This which has been enumerated about the four Yugas, this twelve thousand years constitute a Yuga of Devas".> > Thus a Daiva Yuga has been defined as the aggregate of the periods of the four Yugas, of twelve thousand years.> > Aho Ratra (Day & Night of Brahma):> > "One Thousand Daiva Yugas in number should be known as the Day of Brahma and a smilar period as the Night".> > Day of Brahma would indicate that the Universal Creative Force, Brahma, remains active or awake during the period of one thousand Daiva Yugas of twelve thousand years each. This period is known as a Kalpa. Another period of one thousand Daiva Yugas is the period of Night of Brahma indicating that during this period the Universal Creative force goes into `rest' or `sleep' when creation is withdrawn. The Day of Brahma again dawns after the lapse of this condition of Brahma's Night. The Gita in the seventh chapter has described this feature very specifically. To quote:> > "All `beings' are manifested out of the Unmanifest (Prakriti) at the advent of the Day; at the advent of Night (the same) dissolve into the same, called the Unmanifest". "All these beings are born again and again and are dissolved at the advent of Night and are born again at the end of Night without any compulsion".> > Manu Smriti has given out further yardsticks of measuring the limitless time confirming at the same time the above exposition of the Gita. Manu Smriti continues:> > "What has been stated earlier as Daiva Yuga of twelve thousand years, Seventyone times of that (daiva yuga) is called a Manvantara; Manvantaras are innumerable for both creation and dissolution. The Great Benefactor (Divinity) makes them again and again like a game of toys.> > It is eveident from the above extensively quoted texts from the Manu Smriti that the Hindu conceptions of measuring time and expressing it in terms of Day and Night is a unique feature. The traditional literatures and almanacs (panchang) contain frequent reference to these concepts. From the last two quotations it is stipulated that in a Kalpa of one thousand Daiva Yugas there should at least be fourteen periods of Manvantara; each such period is said to be presided by a Manu. The almanacs give names of fourteen Manus, the name of the present Manu being Vaivasvata Manu and that the present era is about in the middle of the present Kalpa.> > > Traditional ideas in this respect however, do not conform to the interpretation of Swami Sri Yukteshwar which is based on the texts of the highly respected religious literature, the Manu Smriti. According to the traditionalists, the age of a Yuga should be counted by considering the Varsha as the Daiva year. This would make the age of Kali, as an example, consist of twelve hundred Daiva years-each Daiva year being made of three hundred sixty Daiva days and nights, each Daiva Day being a normal year of 360 days. Similarly age of the other Yugas has to be multiplied by three hundred and sixty giving astronomical figures as the age of these Yugas. Swami Sri Yukteshwar vehemently opposed this stand and showed that this view was not only contrary to the scriptures but also against astrological calculations and logical thinkings.> > It is abundantly clear from the above quotations from Manu Smriti that two types of Yugas have been recorded, the ordinary Yugas of Krita, Treta, Dvapara and Kali and Daiva Yuga; both the varieties have been expressed in terms of years only and not in terms of Daiva years. There is no scope, therefore, for any confusion in this regard. The stand of the traditionalists would appear, as such, to be wrong and groundless.> > Characteristic of the phenomenal universal scene is its incessant movement. Everything created is constantly on the `move ` in one way or the other. The Sanskrit synonym of the word for universe, Jagat, meaning the which `goes' or moves, gives a correct description of the reality. The earth rotates round its axis once every day causing Day and Night; it revolves round the Sun along its orbit once every year causing variation of seasons; and the moon revolves round the earth every month causing a month of two fortnights-the dark fortnight and the bright fortnight. Hindu Astrology conceived of another heavenly cyclic movement, this time of the Solar system; the Sun with its planets and satellites, in relation to what is said to be the Grand Centre of the Universal Creative Force, The Vishnu Nabhi or the navel of the Lord Protector of creation Vishnu. This movement causes appearance and disappearance of Yugas.> > In the cyclic movement of the Solar system the Sun with its family of planets and satellites moves toward the Universal Grand Centre from the farthest point, and as it comes nearer and nearer to the Centre of Universal Creative Force the inherent virtues, Dharma, get manifested in men signifying advent of higher and higher Yugas. When the system is at the farthest distance from Vishnu Nabhi the earth is said to be in the Kali Yuga. Proceeding towards the Grand Centre, thus coming closer and closer to its spiritual aura, the earth passes through Dvapar and Treta and to the Krita Yuga. Continuing the cyclic movement as the Solar system goes away farther and farther from the Grand Centre it gets into less and less potent Yugas of Treta, Dvapara and the Kali.> > According to Hindu conceptions virtues, Dharma, are fourfold-Chatushpad; in the Satya or Krita Yuga all the four fold virtues remain fully manifested, but in the subsequent Yugas they decrease by one fold in each culminating in only one kind of virtue in the Kali yuga. Swami Sri Yukteshwar interpreted these virtues as Spiritual, Magnetic, Electrical and Material. As such all the four kinds are manifest in Satya Yuga; in Treta the Spiritual virtue gets submerged leaving the other three kinds manifested; in Dvapara Electrical and Material virtues remain manifested while in the Kali only the Material virtue remains. Hence Kali is known as the Dark Age.> > While Hindu scriptures in this respect refer to the sequence of the Yugas in the descending order-from Satya to Treta, Dvapara and Kali-no reference is found on the changes suggested above in the ascending order from Kali to Dvapara, Treta and Satya. The common belief is that after the end of Kali Yuga the world would face a catastrophe after which Satya yuga will dawn. Such quadruple jump from Kali to Satya is against which is observed in all natural laws of changes and as such inconceivable.> > It may be reiterated that in a complete cycle of movement of the sun with its planets and satellites there are two sets of Yugas of Satya, Treta, Dvapara and Kali thereby forming two periods of Daiva Yuga of twelve thousand years each. In the process, pairs of such Yugas have been formed-two Satya Yuga, two Treta, Two Dvapara, two Kali and two Daiva Yugas. Yuga stands for `pair' and as such naming the above as Yugas would appear appropriate and in keeping with actualities. The Surya Siddhanta, the oldest of known Hindu Astrological documents, has termed the period of twenty four thousand years which is equivalent to the time taken by the Solar system to make a complete cycle as the Maha Yuga. The traditionalists, however, would not accept any suggestion that a Satya Yuga can follow a Treta, a Dvapara and a Kali Yuga, as no reference could be produced from the old scriptures to that effect. The famous Sanskrit scholar and saint of Dhanbad, Late> Ram Nath Shastri, who was personally known to Swami Sri Yukteshwar and one of his admirers, told that the Swami's thesis with regard to Yugas was superb; but as no reference could be traced in the ancient literatures about the ascending yugas the strong traditionalists could not be persuaded to accept the thesis; and without the traditionalists agreeing the proposal could not be acceptable to the people at large.> > Swami Sri Yukteshvar was very firm in his views on the matter and was convinced that the ideas of the traditionalists were faulty and based on wrong reading of the scriptural texts. He maintained that the wrong conceptions had crept in by wrong interpretations introduced by an early commentator of Mahabharata named Kulluk Bhatta, who was a creature of the Dark Age. Swami Sri Yukteswar drew notice to another factor followed by the traditionalist to press the correctness of his thesis. They hold that at present the world is passing through five thousand and seventy eight years of the mutation period of Kali of its total period of 36,000 years (100x360); and that Kali proper is still more than thirty six thousand years away (36,000-5078). However, there is no elucidation as to how this figure of 5078 had been arrived at. Swami Sri Yukteshwar contended that the figure was correct as far as the number of years was concerned but not the reference to which> this was put to. He suggested that in very ancient times years were related to the Yugas they belonged to, in the same way as names of days of the week were related to planets and names of the Hindu months of the year related to important stars of the twelve constellations. He argues that years of Satya Yuga were counted from Satya 1 onwards up to Satya 4,800; the chronology then changed to Treta 1 upto Treta 3,600 and so on. When Dvapara 2,400 was completed and Kali years should have started the then people in authority in the capital of India elected to continue with Dvapara chronology. This was due to, he argued, King Yudhishtra's decision to leave his throne and worldly life at the advent of Kali Yuga which would not be a period fit to live in. When he left the capital, his brothers, courtiers and scholars of his capital followed him on his journey to the Himalayas. As a result, in the absence of scholars, the advent of Kali went unnoticed> and hence the running chronology was persevered with.> > As stated earlier the period of a Dvapara Yuga is 2,400 years. At the conclusion of this Yuga the previous chronology having continued during Kali the last year of Kali, according to the chronology would be 3,600. With the completion of the Kali Yuga in the descending order, the ascending order of change in the Yugas start, and after passing through another twelve hundred years of Kali, Dvapara would begin. The number 5,078 (equivalent Gregorian year = 1978) would show that not only was the Kali in the ascending order was completed but two hundred and seventy seven years of the Dvapara have also been over (5078-3600-1200=278). Swami Sri Yukteshwar was of the view that world now in Dvapara Yuga and that having completed its mutation period of two hundred years have passed in to the yuga proper, and that in the year 1978 A.D. is on its seventy eighth year.> > Another Astronomical phenomenon known as Precession of the Equinox , Swami Sri Yukteshwar affirmed, had close relationship with the Yugas. Equinox occurs when the sun is exactly on the equator making duration of the day and night equal on that day. The point in the heaven or zodiac in the constellation at which equinox takes place is known as the equinoxial point. It has been observed by Astronomers from of old that the equinox does not occur at a fixed point every year; but that the equinoxial point precedes by a fraction of a degree every year. According to Surya Siddhanta the quantum of Precession was 54" seconds a year. Present day Astronomers, however, found this quantum to be a little less. Taking 54" seconds as the quantum it will take 24,000 years (360x60x60 divided by 54) for the equinox to occur again the same point of the constellation. As seen above this period is equivalent to a Maha Yuga (as per Surya Siddhanta) and/or two Daiva> Yugas.> > From his studies of Astrology and Vedic Literatures Swami Sri Yukteshwar found that the last Satya Yuga ensued when the Autumnal Equinox occurred at the first point of the constellation Aries in the year 11,501 B.C. Thus a period of 13,477 years must have elapsed before reaching the year 1978 A.D., which is equivalent to a Daiva Yuga plus a period of Kali Yuga and another 277 years. Calculating on the above basis Autumnal Equinox will take place again in the first point of Aries in the year 12,501 A.D. Equinoxial point is an observable factor and by observing the present position correctness or otherwise of the Swami's views can be verified. Swami Sri Yukteshwar opined that the Autumnal Equinox occurred at the present time some where in the consetellation Libra.> > The most sensational observation of Swami Sri Yukteshwar was that the world now was in Dvapara yuga. He produced a long list of events and discoveries during the last couple of centuries showing that the human mind was gradually acquiring more and more capacities to comprehend finer and finers things in creation, to support his claims that the world was emerging into the higher Yuga of Dvapara from the Dark Kali Yuga during those periods. He predicted that human mind would acquire more and more knowledge in matters of electrical attributes and astounding discoveries in the field could be expected. He could not live to see how true were his predictions in this regard as proved by scientific talents in recent years. Human mind still was far away from comprehending capabilities of magnetic attributes, he said, which will be possible only with the advent of Treta Yuga.> > > > > > lion_draco1983 lion_draco1983 > Friday, November 16, 2007 12:34:58 PM> Re: Yuga system -swami yukteswar.> > dear venky > sorry if i take liberty ,by calling ur name in shorter form,> pls do post what ever we know .Its after all we r in learning and evolving process .> > regrds Vijaya raghavan guruvayur.> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, R Venkat rdjvenkat@ .> wrote:> >> > thanks buddy> > i wanted to put this article - you put it. i hv some what a little more. i will> > try to put the same in a day or two> > venkat> > > > > > > > > > lion_draco1983 lion_draco1983@ ...> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Thursday, November 15, 2007 5:14:10 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Yuga system -swami yukteswar.> > > > Dear frnds ,> > Now we hav 3 yuga systems .> > One is puranic version and popular ,other is by aryabhatta and 3rd is put forwarded by swami yukteswar Giri maharaj .> > This i find tru search tho i hav his book .i am using net version > > Sri Yukteswar's teachings on the yugas> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---------> > An alternative view of the yuga cycle and timescale was taught by the 19th/20th-century Indian yogi Swami Sri Yukteswar Giri, guru of Paramahansa Yogananda.> > In his book, The Holy Science, Sri Yukteswar explains that the descending phase of Satya Yuga lasts 4800 years, Treta Yuga 3600 years, Dwapara Yuga 2400 years, and Kali Yuga 1200 years. The ascending phase of Kali Yuga then begins, also lasting 1200 years; and so on. The ascending phase of Kali Yuga began in September of 499 AD. Since September 1699, we have been in the ascending phase of Dwapara Yuga, according to Sri Yukteswar.> > In The Holy Science, Sri Yukteswar writes that the traditional or long count view is based on a misunderstanding. He says that at the end of the last descending Dvapara Yuga (about 700 BC), "Maharaja Yudhisthira, noticing the appearance of the dark Kali Yuga, made over his throne to his grandson [and]...together with all of his wise men...retired to the Himalaya Mountains... Thus there was none in the court...who could understand the principle of correctly accounting the ages of the several Yugas."> > According to Sri Yukteswar, nobody wanted to announce the bad news of the beginning of the ascending Kali Yuga, so they just kept adding years to the Kali date (at that time 2400 Kali). As the Kali began to ascend again, scholars of the time recognized that there was a mistake in the date (then being called 3600+ Kali, although their texts said Kali had only 1200 years). "By way of reconciliation, they fancied that 1200 years, the real age of Kali, were not the ordinary years of our earth, but were so many daiva (or deva) years ("years of the gods"), consisting of 12 daiva months of 30 daiva days each, with each daiva day being equal to one ordinary solar year of our earth. Hence according to these men 1200 years of Kali Yuga must be equal to 432,000 years of our earth."> > Sri Yukteswar explains that just as the cycle of day and night is caused by a celestial motion (the earth spinning on its axis in relation to the sun), and just as the cycle of the seasons are caused by a celestial motion (the earth with tilted axis orbiting the sun) so too is the yuga cycle (seen as the precession of the equinox), caused by a celestial motion. He explains this celestial motion is the movement of the whole solar system around another star. As our sun moves through this orbit it takes the solar system (and earth) closer to and then further from a point in space known as the "grand centre" also called 'Vishnunabhi' , which is the seat of the creative power, 'Brahma', [which]...regulates ...the mental virtue of the internal world." He implies that it is the proximity of the earth and sun to this grand centre that determines which season of man or yuga it is.> > Astronomers recognize that most stars orbit one or more companion stars. Many now believe our sister sun is Sirius, a nearby binary system comprised of a star in binary orbit around a white dwarf (a collapsed sun)> > > > Regrds Vijaya raghavan Guruvayur.> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________> > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. > > Make your homepage.> > http://www.. com/r/hs> >> > > > > > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you > with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Dear all, As I understand, 4.32 E+9 earth years is divided in the ratio 4:3:2:1 to arrive at the period of the Yugas and the number of incarnations in each Yuga is also in this ratio. 4 parts - 1.728 E+9 years - Satya Yuga - 4 incarnations - Matsya, Kurma, Varaha, Narasimha. 3 parts - 1.296 E+9 years - Treta Yuga - 3 incarnations - Vamana, Parasurama, Rama. 2 parts - 0.864 E+9 years - Dwapara Yuga - 2 incarnations - Balarama, Krishna. 1 Part - Kali -0.432 E+9 years - 1 incarnation - Kalki. So since Krishna has already incarnated and we are awaiting Kalki, we could be in Kali age. Just an interesting pattern ... I could be wrong as well. Regards Bejoy C.S. www.keraladarsan.com --- K Chandra Hari <chandrahari81 wrote: > > If it is Dvapara Yuga in which Swami Yukteshvar > lived, how did he met > with such an early demise? What is the longevity of > human beings in > Dvapara? 120 years = same as of Kali? > > Kali =1 > > Dvapara = 2 > > Treta = 3 > > Krta = 4 > > These are the simple meanings. 4800, 3600, 2400, > 1200 concept of > treating Divine years as solar years is not an > original contribution > from Swami Yukteshwar. As I can recollect such an > interpretation can be > found in the book of SB Dikshit and in the works of > many others. In > Kerala Kesari Balakrishna Pillai had discussed many > such possibilities. > Daftari has given a more scientific and > authoritative account in his > book on Indian Chronology. > > Yugas are defined in terms of Dharma and not in > terms of scientific > progress. So when we look at Dharma which is > limbless now, can we say > that Dvapara is running now? > > chandra hari , R > Venkat > <rdjvenkat wrote: > > > > i give below the excerpts i had typed and kept > with me 2 years back. > > > > cheers > > venkat > > > > ---- > > Concept of yugas by Sri Sri Yukteshwar Giri Swamy > (Mahavatar > Babaji's chief disciple Sri Sri Lahiri Mahasay's > disciple) > > > > Day and night of Brahma as mentioned in Srimad > Bhagavad Gita: > > > > " those who know Brahma's day as of one thousand > yugas and > night also as duration of one thousand yugas are the > `knowers' > of day night of Brahma " > > > > Manu Smriti which has dealt with this subject in > much great details > however has introduced the idea of different yugas > before defining day & > night of Brahma. It says: > > > > comprehend now proofs of day and night of Brahma > including one > > by one in short, of yugas " > > > > Manu Smriti define ordinary yugas-Krita, Treta, > Dvapara & Kali: > > > > Four thousand years constitute a krita (satya) > yuga, it has its > sandhya and sandhyagsha (mutation periods of yuga > dawn & yuga dusk) of > same duration; the remaining three (yugas) and their > sandhya and > sandhyangsha are progressively shorter by one in > thousands and hundreds. > Accordingly durationf four yugas will be as follows: > > > > Yuga name yuga age sandhya sandhyangsha total > > period period > > > > Krita yuga 4,000 yrs 400 yrs 400 yrs 4,800 yrs > > Treta yuga 3,000 yrs 300 yrs 300 yrs 3,600 yrs > > Dvapara yuga 2,000 yrs 200 yrs 200 yrs 2,400 yrs > > Kali yuga 1,000 yrs 100 yrs 100 yrs 1,200 yrs > > Total of the four yugas 12,000 years > > > > Daiva yuga > > > > The aggregate of the length of four Yuga periods > is twelve thousand > years, as can be seen. Manu Smriti defines this > period as Daiva Yuga > > > > " This which has been enumerated about the four > Yugas, this twelve > thousand years constitute a Yuga of Devas " . > > > > Thus a Daiva Yuga has been defined as the > aggregate of the periods of > the four Yugas, of twelve thousand years. > > > > Aho Ratra (Day & Night of Brahma): > > > > " One Thousand Daiva Yugas in number should be > known as the Day of > Brahma and a smilar period as the Night " . > > > > Day of Brahma would indicate that the Universal > Creative Force, > Brahma, remains active or awake during the period of > one thousand Daiva > Yugas of twelve thousand years each. This period is > known as a Kalpa. > Another period of one thousand Daiva Yugas is the > period of Night of > Brahma indicating that during this period the > Universal Creative force > goes into `rest' or `sleep' when creation is > withdrawn. > The Day of Brahma again dawns after the lapse of > this condition of > Brahma's Night. The Gita in the seventh chapter has > described this > feature very specifically. To quote: > > > > " All `beings' are manifested out of the Unmanifest > (Prakriti) at the advent of the Day; at the advent > of Night (the same) > dissolve into the same, called the Unmanifest " . " All > these > beings are born again and again and are dissolved at > the advent of Night > and are born again at the end of Night without any > compulsion " . > > > > Manu Smriti has given out further yardsticks of > measuring the > limitless time confirming at the same time the above > exposition of the > Gita. Manu Smriti continues: > > > > " What has been stated earlier as Daiva Yuga of > twelve thousand > years, Seventyone times of that (daiva yuga) is > called a Manvantara; > Manvantaras are innumerable for both creation and > dissolution. The Great > Benefactor (Divinity) makes them again and again > like a game of toys. > > > > It is eveident from the above extensively quoted > texts from the Manu > Smriti that the Hindu conceptions of measuring time > and expressing it in > terms of Day and Night is a unique feature. The > traditional literatures > and almanacs (panchang) contain frequent reference > to these concepts. > From the last two quotations it is stipulated that > in a Kalpa of one > thousand Daiva Yugas there should at least be > fourteen periods of > Manvantara; each such period is said to be presided > by a Manu. The > almanacs give names of fourteen Manus, the name of > the present Manu > being Vaivasvata Manu and that the present era is > about in the middle of > the present Kalpa. > > > > > > Traditional ideas in this respect however, do not > conform to the > interpretation of Swami Sri Yukteshwar which is > based on the texts of > the highly respected religious literature, the Manu > Smriti. According to > the traditionalists, the age of a Yuga should be > counted by considering > the Varsha as the Daiva year. This would make the > age of Kali, as an > example, consist of twelve hundred Daiva years-each > Daiva year being > made of three hundred sixty Daiva days and nights, > each Daiva Day being > a normal year of 360 days. Similarly age of the > other Yugas has to be > multiplied by three hundred and sixty giving > astronomical === message truncated === ______________________________\ ____ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Aryabhata had defined the Yugas as 1/4 of the Mahayuga of 4320000 years. 4:3:2:1 was not approved by him in 500 CE. It is most likely a later adoption in Puranas and Epics. Numbers of Yugas are all Babylonian. chandra hari , Bejoy <bejoy_cs wrote: > > > Dear all, > > As I understand, 4.32 E+9 earth years is divided in > the ratio 4:3:2:1 to arrive at the period of the Yugas > and the number of incarnations in each Yuga is also in > this ratio. > > 4 parts - 1.728 E+9 years - Satya Yuga - 4 > incarnations - Matsya, Kurma, Varaha, Narasimha. > > 3 parts - 1.296 E+9 years - Treta Yuga - 3 > incarnations - Vamana, Parasurama, Rama. > > 2 parts - 0.864 E+9 years - Dwapara Yuga - 2 > incarnations - Balarama, Krishna. > > 1 Part - Kali -0.432 E+9 years - 1 incarnation - > Kalki. > > So since Krishna has already incarnated and we are > awaiting Kalki, we could be in Kali age. > > Just an interesting pattern ... I could be wrong as > well. > > Regards > > Bejoy C.S. > www.keraladarsan.com > > > > > --- K Chandra Hari chandrahari81 wrote: > > > > > If it is Dvapara Yuga in which Swami Yukteshvar > > lived, how did he met > > with such an early demise? What is the longevity of > > human beings in > > Dvapara? 120 years = same as of Kali? > > > > Kali =1 > > > > Dvapara = 2 > > > > Treta = 3 > > > > Krta = 4 > > > > These are the simple meanings. 4800, 3600, 2400, > > 1200 concept of > > treating Divine years as solar years is not an > > original contribution > > from Swami Yukteshwar. As I can recollect such an > > interpretation can be > > found in the book of SB Dikshit and in the works of > > many others. In > > Kerala Kesari Balakrishna Pillai had discussed many > > such possibilities. > > Daftari has given a more scientific and > > authoritative account in his > > book on Indian Chronology. > > > > Yugas are defined in terms of Dharma and not in > > terms of scientific > > progress. So when we look at Dharma which is > > limbless now, can we say > > that Dvapara is running now? > > > > chandra hari > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , R > > Venkat > > rdjvenkat@ wrote: > > > > > > i give below the excerpts i had typed and kept > > with me 2 years back. > > > > > > cheers > > > venkat > > > > > > ---- > > > Concept of yugas by Sri Sri Yukteshwar Giri Swamy > > (Mahavatar > > Babaji's chief disciple Sri Sri Lahiri Mahasay's > > disciple) > > > > > > Day and night of Brahma as mentioned in Srimad > > Bhagavad Gita: > > > > > > " those who know Brahma's day as of one thousand > > yugas and > > night also as duration of one thousand yugas are the > > `knowers' > > of day night of Brahma " > > > > > > Manu Smriti which has dealt with this subject in > > much great details > > however has introduced the idea of different yugas > > before defining day & > > night of Brahma. It says: > > > > > > comprehend now proofs of day and night of Brahma > > including one > > > by one in short, of yugas " > > > > > > Manu Smriti define ordinary yugas-Krita, Treta, > > Dvapara & Kali: > > > > > > Four thousand years constitute a krita (satya) > > yuga, it has its > > sandhya and sandhyagsha (mutation periods of yuga > > dawn & yuga dusk) of > > same duration; the remaining three (yugas) and their > > sandhya and > > sandhyangsha are progressively shorter by one in > > thousands and hundreds. > > Accordingly durationf four yugas will be as follows: > > > > > > Yuga name yuga age sandhya sandhyangsha total > > > period period > > > > > > Krita yuga 4,000 yrs 400 yrs 400 yrs 4,800 yrs > > > Treta yuga 3,000 yrs 300 yrs 300 yrs 3,600 yrs > > > Dvapara yuga 2,000 yrs 200 yrs 200 yrs 2,400 yrs > > > Kali yuga 1,000 yrs 100 yrs 100 yrs 1,200 yrs > > > Total of the four yugas 12,000 years > > > > > > Daiva yuga > > > > > > The aggregate of the length of four Yuga periods > > is twelve thousand > > years, as can be seen. Manu Smriti defines this > > period as Daiva Yuga > > > > > > " This which has been enumerated about the four > > Yugas, this twelve > > thousand years constitute a Yuga of Devas " . > > > > > > Thus a Daiva Yuga has been defined as the > > aggregate of the periods of > > the four Yugas, of twelve thousand years. > > > > > > Aho Ratra (Day & Night of Brahma): > > > > > > " One Thousand Daiva Yugas in number should be > > known as the Day of > > Brahma and a smilar period as the Night " . > > > > > > Day of Brahma would indicate that the Universal > > Creative Force, > > Brahma, remains active or awake during the period of > > one thousand Daiva > > Yugas of twelve thousand years each. This period is > > known as a Kalpa. > > Another period of one thousand Daiva Yugas is the > > period of Night of > > Brahma indicating that during this period the > > Universal Creative force > > goes into `rest' or `sleep' when creation is > > withdrawn. > > The Day of Brahma again dawns after the lapse of > > this condition of > > Brahma's Night. The Gita in the seventh chapter has > > described this > > feature very specifically. To quote: > > > > > > " All `beings' are manifested out of the Unmanifest > > (Prakriti) at the advent of the Day; at the advent > > of Night (the same) > > dissolve into the same, called the Unmanifest " . " All > > these > > beings are born again and again and are dissolved at > > the advent of Night > > and are born again at the end of Night without any > > compulsion " . > > > > > > Manu Smriti has given out further yardsticks of > > measuring the > > limitless time confirming at the same time the above > > exposition of the > > Gita. Manu Smriti continues: > > > > > > " What has been stated earlier as Daiva Yuga of > > twelve thousand > > years, Seventyone times of that (daiva yuga) is > > called a Manvantara; > > Manvantaras are innumerable for both creation and > > dissolution. The Great > > Benefactor (Divinity) makes them again and again > > like a game of toys. > > > > > > It is eveident from the above extensively quoted > > texts from the Manu > > Smriti that the Hindu conceptions of measuring time > > and expressing it in > > terms of Day and Night is a unique feature. The > > traditional literatures > > and almanacs (panchang) contain frequent reference > > to these concepts. > > From the last two quotations it is stipulated that > > in a Kalpa of one > > thousand Daiva Yugas there should at least be > > fourteen periods of > > Manvantara; each such period is said to be presided > > by a Manu. The > > almanacs give names of fourteen Manus, the name of > > the present Manu > > being Vaivasvata Manu and that the present era is > > about in the middle of > > the present Kalpa. > > > > > > > > > Traditional ideas in this respect however, do not > > conform to the > > interpretation of Swami Sri Yukteshwar which is > > based on the texts of > > the highly respected religious literature, the Manu > > Smriti. According to > > the traditionalists, the age of a Yuga should be > > counted by considering > > the Varsha as the Daiva year. This would make the > > age of Kali, as an > > example, consist of twelve hundred Daiva years-each > > Daiva year being > > made of three hundred sixty Daiva days and nights, > > each Daiva Day being > > a normal year of 360 days. Similarly age of the > > other Yugas has to be > > multiplied by three hundred and sixty giving > > astronomical > === message truncated === > > > > ______________________\ ____________ > Be a better sports nut! 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