Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 HinduCalendar , " Avtar Krishen Kaul " <jyotirved wrote: Shri Prafulla Vaman Mendki ji, Namaskar! I have already explained through several posts that we cannot have arbitrary durations of yugas -- Kaliyuga being the longest one even as on date, whereas all the other yugas having had a smaller duration than the same in a proportional order! If yugas cannot have excesively long durations they cannot have miniscule durations either! If you believe in yuga theory, willy- nilly you have to to the point of view that Dwapara yuga must have had a longer duation than Kaliyuga, Treta longer than that of Dwapara and Satya a longer duration than Treta. On the other hand, you are making a mockery of everything just to prove that Bhagwan Rama was born on December 6, 7560 BC! According to you (post 2375) Krita yuga ranged from 13901 to 9100 BC (i.e. 4801 years) Treta from 9100 to 5501 BC (4599 years) Dwapra from 5501 BC to 3101 BC (2400 years) and Kaliyuga 3101 BC to ? (at least more than 5000 years till date)! This is such an arbitrary duration for which you have neither any shastric, nor any sidhantic and least of all any astronomical reasons! Just to prove that Bhagwan Krishna was born in 3108 BC, you want Dwapra to have ended on 3101 BC abruptly but it is beyond human imagination that if Dwapara had a duration of just 2400 years, how can Kaliyuga have a duration of more than 5000 years -- in fact that is the longet duration of any yuga,according to you then! I do not why you, or any " Vedic astrologer " for that matter, want to make a mockery of ygua system just to prove the pet theories of " Vedic Jyotisha " so that even divine incarnations can be subjected to planetary suzarinity! Obviously, in view of such a crusade by " Vedic astrologers " themselves to prove that all our shastras are talking of nothing but non-sense, whether as far as yugas are concerned, or whether it was the date of Bhagwan Rama -- and thereby Rama Setu -- we do not need any athiests to make a fool of us on the sly! I just fail to understand as to why these " Vedic astrologers " cannot leave at least divine Incarnations alone since they are doing enough of damage even otherwise also! On the one hand, simultaneously, you say that the Surya Sidhanta is an absolutely useless work, (and I am in full agreement with you there!) but in the same breath you say that Kaliyuga started in 3102 BC just because the Surya Sidhanta tells us so! You cannot have the cake and eat it as well! The only way out, therefore, for these jyotishis is: PLEASE LEAVE AT LEAST DIVINE INCARNATIONS ALONE! With regards, Avtar Krishen Kaul HinduCalendar , " prafulla Vaman Mendki " <prafulla_mendki@> wrote: > > Dear Avtarji > Namaste! > You are again coming to the same point where we started. > Please see my message No. 2375. > SuryaSiddhanta was written many years after Yugas started. > So if you stick to Surya Siddhanta for measure of Yug, > you will not find the truth. > Nobody can make a calendar for million years and no language > will survive for million years! > These long periods were made only to impress people > that ShriRam and ShriKrishna were gods who appeared millions > of years ago.We, human beings have been thrown in Kaliyuga > of 4 32 000 years so that no human being in the present > Kaliyug of 4 32 000 years can become god. So do not expect God > until Kaliyug ends. > Prafulla > HinduCalendar , " Avtar Krishen Kaul " > <jyotirved@> wrote: > > > > Shri V V Ramanji, > > Namaskar! > > <On the basis of current astronomy, it is difficult to imagine > that in > > the Treta Yuga (several hundred thousand years ago) we had the > same > > stellar and planetary configurations and so the same calendar as > now> > > > > This yuga business has left me more confused than anything else! > > > > The Surya Sidhana tells us that the present Kaliyuga started on > > February 17/18, 3102 BCE at midnight at Ujjain. Dwapara yuga was > > supposed to have lasted for 864,000 years prior to that! Treta > > Yuga " ruled " for 1,296,000 years before that and of course, Satya > > Yuga " regined " for 1,728,000 before Treta Yuga! > > > > Kaliyuga is supposed to last for 4,320,000 years! > > > > It means that the Rig Veda etc. must have been revealed several > > million years back since that is supposed to be the earliest Veda > as > > per the Pauranic lore! > > > > Archaeological evidence, on the other hand, points out that > > no " written word " prior to about 7000 BC is available in any > > civilization! > > > > Similarly, as you must have seen from the posts of " Vedic > atrologers " > > and " Vedic astronomers " Bhagwan Ram could have incarnated any > time > > between 1000 BC and 7500 BC at the most! Surprisingly, all of > them > > quote the same Valmiki Ramayana as their source of information! > > > > The Valmiki Ramayana, Gita Press edition, on the other hand, > talks of > > Dasharatha having reigned for about 60,000 years whereas Bhagwan > Ram > > reigned for about ten thousand years! Thus if we believe > our " Vedic > > astrologers " , then Bhagwan Ram is still hiding somehwere since if > He > > Incarnated in 7500 BC (the earliest!) then there are still five > > hundred years of His rule left! > > > > I do not know whether He is ruling through proxies like George W. > Bush > > or Dr. Manmohan Singh etc., but certainly I do not find anything > like > > Rama Rajya these days! Qualitatively, it is more like Ravana- > Rajya, > > though, since the fisticuffs in Assemblies and Parlimaent between > > the " Raja-Purashas " would put even the Ahiravanas and Mahiravanas > to > > shame! > > > > I only hope I have not confused you also just as I am confused! > Maybe > > you can help me overcome such a confusion! > > With regards, > > Avtar Krishen Kaul > > > > > > > > HinduCalendar , " V. V. Raman " <vvrsps@> > wrote: > > > > > > On the basis of current astronomy, it is difficult to imagine > that > > in the Treta Yuga (several hundred thousand years ago) we had the > same > > stellar and planetary configurations and so the same calendar as > now. > > > I am wondering if this can be regarded as a valid concern. > > > > > > V. V. Raman > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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