LL in 10th & Me in Pisces - Analysis with example charts

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Dear All,

In the pevious mail I posted on the same, there was some mistakes. So I am reposting the same.

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We have 2 charts in

hand. Here we are trying to derive results based on 2 of the following points

alone (neglecting all the other factors that may affect the results).

1) House

in which LL is placed

2) Sign

in which LL is placed

Let us state our results

objectively, and see how much the results match- from the response given by our

respected members who provided these charts.

Ayanamsa used: True Ayanamsa of

Chandrahari (46 min more than Lahari)

Year length used: 365.2425 days

normal solar year

In both the charts LL is in 10th,

and Me is in Pisces. But the difference is that in the first chart Me is the

LL, but in the other Mars is the lagna lord. The analysis is given below.

1) Results for LL in 10th [Analytical]

If lagna

lord is in 10th house, the native would be respected or rewarded by the king.

He would be rewarded with good power and position. He will earn much money with

his own effort and will become very popular individual respected for his

capabilities. He will get much happiness from his father and mother. He will

have - many bothers, high sexual urges,

life loving nature, good qualities and beauty. He would be a scholar and

righteous individual. He will respect guru, father and mother and live like a king

with good wealth. [This is just a cut-paste from the previous article in which

we discussed the same]

2) Results for Me in Pisces [Analytical]

If Me is in

Pisces he will do service to others (he will be servant to others) – meaning he

would be doing a job that is a bit lower in status. It could be leather

business (shoes, bags cloths etc) or could restaurant etc or anything else (but

notably with a lower status). The planet aspecting Me will have much influence

in determining the job (since Me is a planet that gets easily affected by the influence

of other planets). Phaladeepika says, if a planet is in debilitation the native

will get demoted in his job and position, will have many troubles (lack of

enough money, debt etc), will have to take support from people whom he does not

appreciate much and who may even cause much trouble later, will not be

satisfied with his residence and work place, and will become a servant of

others, and will have to travel here and there a lot (or change house or

workplace) without benefit.

Sarvartha Chintamani tells us

that, in the dasa of debilitated Me in Pisces, the native would have to live

away from his family and relatives. His intellect will not work correctly –

i.e. all his plans and tactics will not reap much reward, and will fail. He

would be in doubt – what to do, what not to do. Lose of position will happen,

he may feel as if the earth below his feet is shaking, since his even his solid

assets would be at stake and so as profession. He will have to quarrel with his

relatives, and may go abroad (or live away from home). He will feel sad as if

lost in forest – i.e. he away from relatives he would have to live in such a

place that he does not like at all - even daily routine will not be running

smoothly, and he would be alone, and sadness sets in. In both the charts we

consider, the Me dasa does not match – so only the glimpses of the above

results would be there (in Me Antar dasa), but not that for sure glimpses of

all these results would be present.

 

Case 1 (Supplied by RK ji)

DOB: 5 April 1963

TOB: 11.15 AM

POB: 21N28; 84E04; Time Zone: 80E30

Lagna = Gemini; LL in 10th in Pisces

 

Dasa: Me dasa is yet to come – it starts in 2060 only. Mars

Dasa Me Antara happened during March 2005 to March 2006. Note that Mars is

debilitated in the chart and is in 2nd house from Lagna that might

have amplified the bad effects. But this we won't be considering in our

analysis. Me is placed along with Ju and Su in 10th, indicating

tourism, hotel or similar business.

In this chart, Me is affected by Ma

(being Dasa lord), Su and Ju (both of them place along with Me)

Integration of both the above results [Holistic]

Since his brother becomes his enemy

(Ma owns 11th and 6th) and may be due to many other

reasons, he will have to suffer degradation in position and income, but still

he will maintain his independence and reputation even in this bad period. He

may change his work place and residence and will not be satisfied with his

current status. (Future holds good for him once the Mars dasa is over), income

will increase and the domain of profession will remain the same)

In short the native went through a

period of fall from position, and is still in hardships (though not much) as of

now. He will come up once the Ra dasa sets in. by 2008.

 

Case 2 (Supplied by Kumar ji)

DOB: 15 March 1965

TOB: 00.15 AM

POB: Hyderabad, India

Lagna: Scorpio; LL Mars in 10th in Leo; Me in 5th

 

Dasa: Me

dasa is over in childhood by 1973 itself. Sun dasa Me Antara happened in 2004

(i.e. Feb 2004 to Dec 2004). Sun is placed in 4th in enemy sign with Saturn

(while Saturn is in its own house) and is aspected by Mars (placed in Leo).

Naturally this sun is supposed to give some bad results related to the maternal

house and relatives, but will give some mixed results related to the job. But

this we won't be considering in our analysis.

In this chart, Me is affected by Su

(being Dasa lord), Ma (aspecting Me with its aspect in 8th house

from Leo)

 

Integration of both the above results [Holistic]

Health

trouble to children or abortions (to wife) during this period (if she got

pregnant in the same period). Note that the native is 39 years of age by then.

Will continue with his job or service (which could be in government or

government related as well) but won't be satisfied with the same. At the home

where he took birth he will have much troubles in maintaining relationship with

many close relatives – and will feel alone in argumentations, and would be at

lose. More friends and connections will come up, and life continues as a

continuous fight or struggle. [since the Moon dasa started by 2006, now the

things had taken a positive turn]

This is a

chart in which the results for Su in 4th should be given special

importance to understand the background, and condition of the native in the

past 6 years of Sun Dasa. Since Sun is in 4th house, he would be a bit egotic

and hot bodied. He will act against the public opinion and will have a

disturbed mind. That is, due to too much thinking, he will lack the peace of

mind and would be usually sad. All his efforts will fructify after the age of

32 (or better after 40). After that he would be appreciated and respected by

all, and will become popular for his knowledge and courage (to swim against the

tide and attain the target). He will not have much land or wealth. Since Sun is

in 4th and since 4th lord is strong and is placed in own sign square

from Natal Lagna - he will have vehicle as indicated by the 4th lord. If the

Sun is aspected by mars small accidents and damage to the vehicle is a

possibility – this is already over. Even though he may have property (land and

house) he won't be satisfied with the current situations, he may even had to

stay in rented houses for short periods.

Thus in

short the native went through a period of hardship and is coming up now. But in any case he will have to be satisfied

with his limited income and limited property at hand. (Yes, he has some fixed

assets land and building – and will deposit more into similar things)

 

Conclusion

I am waiting for the response from the members who supplied these

charts, (But wait, let others also read these 2 charts to know the effects of

LL Me in 10th Pisces) to confirm whether the results for LL in 10th

and Me in Pisces matches with the actual incidents and life they encountered or

not. Pardon the fact that I have given a bit extra importance to Dasa lords

since in the case of both the charts the Me Dasa is never happening under the

period in which we could verify the incidents.

I invite other knowledgeable

members to comment on these charts – once the same is over the members who

supplied these charts can reveal the facts; so that we can verify the

derivations.

=====================================

 

Love,

Sreeandh

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Dear Sreenadh, We have to streamline the analysis, I believe. In the analysis of the charts supplied, we have to focus on a) Me as LL; b) what such an L1 takes to H10; c) what happens to (1) H-1, (2) H-10, (3) H-4. This, where Me is getting debility. (In the chart supplied by me the debility is getting cancelled.) For Gem Asc, Me in H-10 takes the self to the vortex; but alas, the fall. Mantreswara's view of fall is for a debilitated planet in general. Yet M's ruling will translate fully in the example chart, since it is 10th house that is taking in a debilitated planet and the planet concerned is LL. Now what does Me do to H-10, if we discount the debility but blend (1) 'the first house', (2) the house of

profession and one's standing in society, (3) Me's karakatwa, and to an extent (4) the fourth house. Yet we can't keep the debility factor out and judge all these. Sunil in a recent post (within the past couple of days, I think) says something intriguing: "7th is always maraka and rasi of fall of any house" I have found a school of thought that says, facing houses run counter to each other, they cause detriment. 1st and 7th, 9th and 3rd, 10th and 4th, 8th and 2nd, maybe futher on. I don't know if we 'can' mainstream it without testing. In the present

context, what is the 10th house acquiring from a 4th lord coming to it? Overall, this is how I'd go about the validation, not feeling handicapped by the fact that Me's dasha is not before us. True, the operative dasha of a lord under consideration would have given us superb advantage. We have to rely on the overall, life-time effect of this placement (ie, LL Me in H-10 Pi). One more thing. I haven't taken on two conjunct planets (in the chart supplied by me, viz Ju and Sun) so as not to further refract the derivation rays. That would crowd out the lines. And yes, I haven't pursued it down to the wire, expecting to be chackmated by more informed and experienced members of our forum. I look forward to standing corrected. RK Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear All, In the pevious mail I posted on the same, there was some mistakes. So I am reposting the same.===================================== We have 2 charts

in hand. Here we are trying to derive results based on 2 of the following points alone (neglecting all the other factors that may affect the results). <!--[if !supportLists]-->1) <!--[endif]-->House in which LL is placed <!--[if !supportLists]-->2) <!--[endif]-->Sign in which LL is placed Let us state our results objectively, and see how much the results match- from the response given by our respected

members who provided these charts. Ayanamsa used: True Ayanamsa of Chandrahari (46 min more than Lahari) Year length used: 365.2425 days normal solar year In both the charts LL is in 10th, and Me is in Pisces. But the difference is that in the first chart Me is the LL, but in the other Mars is the lagna lord. The analysis is given below. 1) Results for LL in 10th [Analytical] If lagna lord is in 10th house, the native would be respected or rewarded by the king. He would be rewarded with good power and position. He will earn much money with his own effort and will become very popular individual respected for his capabilities. He will get much happiness from his father and mother. He will

have - many bothers, high sexual urges, life loving nature, good qualities and beauty. He would be a scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, father and mother and live like a king with good wealth. [This is just a cut-paste from the previous article in which we discussed the same] 2) Results for Me in Pisces [Analytical] If Me is in Pisces he will do service to others (he will be servant to others) – meaning he would be doing a job that is a bit lower in status. It could be leather business (shoes, bags cloths etc) or could restaurant etc or anything else (but notably with a lower status). The planet aspecting Me will have much influence in determining the job (since Me is a planet that gets easily affected by the influence of other planets). Phaladeepika says, if a planet is in

debilitation the native will get demoted in his job and position, will have many troubles (lack of enough money, debt etc), will have to take support from people whom he does not appreciate much and who may even cause much trouble later, will not be satisfied with his residence and work place, and will become a servant of others, and will have to travel here and there a lot (or change house or workplace) without benefit. Sarvartha Chintamani tells us that, in the dasa of debilitated Me in Pisces, the native would have to live away from his family and relatives. His intellect will not work correctly – i.e. all his plans and tactics will not reap much reward, and will fail. He would be in doubt – what to do, what not to do. Lose of position will happen, he may feel as if the earth below his feet is shaking, since his even his solid assets would be at stake and so as profession. He will have to quarrel with his

relatives, and may go abroad (or live away from home). He will feel sad as if lost in forest – i.e. he away from relatives he would have to live in such a place that he does not like at all - even daily routine will not be running smoothly, and he would be alone, and sadness sets in. In both the charts we consider, the Me dasa does not match – so only the glimpses of the above results would be there (in Me Antar dasa), but not that for sure glimpses of all these results would be present. Case 1 (Supplied by RK ji) DOB: 5 April 1963 TOB: 11.15 AM POB: 21N28; 84E04; Time Zone: 80E30 Lagna = Gemini; LL in 10th in Pisces Dasa: Me dasa is yet to come – it starts in

2060 only. Mars Dasa Me Antara happened during March 2005 to March 2006. Note that Mars is debilitated in the chart and is in 2nd house from Lagna that might have amplified the bad effects. But this we won't be considering in our analysis. Me is placed along with Ju and Su in 10th, indicating tourism, hotel or similar business. In this chart, Me is affected by Ma (being Dasa lord), Su and Ju (both of them place along with Me) Integration of both the above results [Holistic] Since his brother becomes his enemy (Ma owns 11th and 6th) and may be due to many other reasons, he will have to suffer degradation in position and income, but still he will maintain his independence and

reputation even in this bad period. He may change his work place and residence and will not be satisfied with his current status. (Future holds good for him once the Mars dasa is over), income will increase and the domain of profession will remain the same) In short the native went through a period of fall from position, and is still in hardships (though not much) as of now. He will come up once the Ra dasa sets in. by 2008. Case 2 (Supplied by Kumar ji) DOB: 15 March 1965 TOB: 00.15 AM POB: Hyderabad, India Lagna: Scorpio; LL Mars in 10th in Leo; Me in 5th Dasa: Me dasa is over in childhood by 1973 itself. Sun dasa Me Antara happened in 2004 (i.e. Feb 2004 to Dec 2004). Sun is placed in 4th in enemy sign with Saturn (while Saturn is in its own house) and is aspected by Mars (placed in Leo). Naturally this sun is supposed to give some bad results related to the maternal house and relatives, but will give some mixed results related to the job. But this we won't be considering in our analysis. In this chart, Me is affected by Su (being Dasa lord), Ma (aspecting Me with its aspect in 8th house from Leo) Integration of both the above results [Holistic] Health trouble to children or abortions (to wife) during this period (if she got pregnant in the

same period). Note that the native is 39 years of age by then. Will continue with his job or service (which could be in government or government related as well) but won't be satisfied with the same. At the home where he took birth he will have much troubles in maintaining relationship with many close relatives – and will feel alone in argumentations, and would be at lose. More friends and connections will come up, and life continues as a continuous fight or struggle. [since the Moon dasa started by 2006, now the things had taken a positive turn] This is a chart in which the results for Su in 4th should be given special importance to understand the background, and condition of the native in the past 6 years of Sun Dasa. Since Sun is in 4th house, he would be a bit egotic and hot bodied. He will act against the public opinion and will have a disturbed

mind. That is, due to too much thinking, he will lack the peace of mind and would be usually sad. All his efforts will fructify after the age of 32 (or better after 40). After that he would be appreciated and respected by all, and will become popular for his knowledge and courage (to swim against the tide and attain the target). He will not have much land or wealth. Since Sun is in 4th and since 4th lord is strong and is placed in own sign square from Natal Lagna - he will have vehicle as indicated by the 4th lord. If the Sun is aspected by mars small accidents and damage to the vehicle is a possibility – this is already over. Even though he may have property (land and house) he won't be satisfied with the current situations, he may even had to stay in rented houses for short periods. Thus in short the native went through a period of hardship and is

coming up now. But in any case he will have to be satisfied with his limited income and limited property at hand. (Yes, he has some fixed assets land and building – and will deposit more into similar things) Conclusion I am waiting for the response from the members who supplied these charts, (But wait, let others also read these 2 charts to know the effects of LL Me in 10th Pisces) to confirm whether the results for LL in 10th and Me in Pisces matches with the actual incidents and life they encountered or not. Pardon the fact that I have given a bit extra importance to Dasa lords since in the case of both the charts the Me Dasa is never happening under the period in which we could verify the incidents. I invite other knowledgeable members to comment on these charts – once the same is over the members who

supplied these charts can reveal the facts; so that we can verify the derivations. ===================================== Love, Sreeandh

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Dear RK ji,

First thing first - Is the reading matches with facts or not?

Now coming to your comments: Note that there is nothing called

CANCELLATION in astrology as per my trust in the ancient system. If

it is so -

* All the results mentioned in the reading SHOULD come true.

Or in other words -

* All the good results mentioned (for LL in 10th) will come true -

but to a very to a limited extend only (due to debilitation of LL)

* All the bad results mentioned for Me in Pisces will come true, but

to a lesser extend (since Me Dasa is not happening)

* No need to consider other factors except Dasa (Because we are

discussing the results for LL in 10th debilitated)

So the final statement is -

" All the results mentioned in the analysis should be true (even

though the quantity may vary) - Do you agree with it?

 

Once you clarify this, we can proceed with the 'stream lining' as

you have mentioned below, if required -

==>

We have to streamline the analysis, I believe. In the analysis of the

charts supplied, we have to focus on a) Me as LL; b) what such an L1

takes to H10; c) what happens to (1) H-1, (2) H-10, (3) H-4. This,

where Me is getting debility.

<==

 

Note: This should be true both for the horoscope you supplied and

for Kumar ji's horoscope.

 

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, rk dash

<arkaydash wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadh,

> We have to streamline the analysis, I believe. In the analysis of

the charts supplied, we have to focus on a) Me as LL; b) what such an

L1 takes to H10; c) what happens to (1) H-1, (2) H-10, (3) H-4. This,

where Me is getting debility. (In the chart supplied by me the

debility is getting cancelled.)

>

> For Gem Asc, Me in H-10 takes the self to the vortex; but alas,

the fall. Mantreswara's view of fall is for a debilitated planet in

general. Yet M's ruling will translate fully in the example chart,

since it is 10th house that is taking in a debilitated planet and the

planet concerned is LL. Now what does Me do to H-10, if we discount

the debility but blend (1) 'the first house', (2) the house of

profession and one's standing in society, (3) Me's karakatwa, and to

an extent (4) the fourth house. Yet we can't keep the debility factor

out and judge all these.

>

> Sunil in a recent post (within the past couple of days, I think)

says something intriguing:

>

> " 7th is always maraka and rasi of fall of any house "

>

> I have found a school of thought that says, facing houses run

counter to each other, they cause detriment. 1st and 7th, 9th and

3rd, 10th and 4th, 8th and 2nd, maybe futher on. I don't know if

we 'can' mainstream it without testing.

>

> In the present context, what is the 10th house acquiring from a

4th lord coming to it?

>

> Overall, this is how I'd go about the validation, not feeling

handicapped by the fact that Me's dasha is not before us. True, the

operative dasha of a lord under consideration would have given us

superb advantage. We have to rely on the overall, life-time effect of

this placement (ie, LL Me in H-10 Pi).

>

> One more thing. I haven't taken on two conjunct planets (in the

chart supplied by me, viz Ju and Sun) so as not to further refract

the derivation rays. That would crowd out the lines. And yes, I

haven't pursued it down to the wire, expecting to be chackmated by

more informed and experienced members of our forum. I look forward to

standing corrected.

>

> RK

>

>

>

> Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

> Dear All,

> In the pevious mail I posted on the same, there was some

mistakes. So I am reposting the same.

> =====================================

> We have 2 charts in hand. Here we are trying to derive results

based on 2 of the following points alone (neglecting all the other

factors that may affect the results).

> 1) House in which LL is placed

> 2) Sign in which LL is placed

> Let us state our results objectively, and see how much the

results match- from the response given by our respected members who

provided these charts.

> Ayanamsa used: True Ayanamsa of Chandrahari (46 min more than

Lahari)

> Year length used: 365.2425 days normal solar year

> In both the charts LL is in 10th, and Me is in Pisces. But the

difference is that in the first chart Me is the LL, but in the other

Mars is the lagna lord. The analysis is given below.

> 1) Results for LL in 10th [Analytical]

> If lagna lord is in 10th house, the native would be respected or

rewarded by the king. He would be rewarded with good power and

position. He will earn much money with his own effort and will become

very popular individual respected for his capabilities. He will get

much happiness from his father and mother. He will have - many

bothers, high sexual urges, life loving nature, good qualities and

beauty. He would be a scholar and righteous individual. He will

respect guru, father and mother and live like a king with good

wealth. [This is just a cut-paste from the previous article in which

we discussed the same]

> 2) Results for Me in Pisces [Analytical]

> If Me is in Pisces he will do service to others (he

will be servant to others) – meaning he would be doing a job that is

a bit lower in status. It could be leather business (shoes, bags

cloths etc) or could restaurant etc or anything else (but notably

with a lower status). The planet aspecting Me will have much

influence in determining the job (since Me is a planet that gets

easily affected by the influence of other planets). Phaladeepika

says, if a planet is in debilitation the native will get demoted in

his job and position, will have many troubles (lack of enough money,

debt etc), will have to take support from people whom he does not

appreciate much and who may even cause much trouble later, will not

be satisfied with his residence and work place, and will become a

servant of others, and will have to travel here and there a lot (or

change house or workplace) without benefit.

> Sarvartha Chintamani tells us that, in the dasa of debilitated Me

in Pisces, the native would have to live away from his family and

relatives. His intellect will not work correctly – i.e. all his plans

and tactics will not reap much reward, and will fail. He would be in

doubt – what to do, what not to do. Lose of position will happen, he

may feel as if the earth below his feet is shaking, since his even

his solid assets would be at stake and so as profession. He will have

to quarrel with his relatives, and may go abroad (or live away from

home). He will feel sad as if lost in forest – i.e. he away from

relatives he would have to live in such a place that he does not like

at all - even daily routine will not be running smoothly, and he

would be alone, and sadness sets in. In both the charts we consider,

the Me dasa does not match – so only the glimpses of the above

results would be there (in Me Antar dasa), but not that for sure

glimpses of all these results would be

> present.

>

> Case 1 (Supplied by RK ji)

> DOB: 5 April 1963

> TOB: 11.15 AM

> POB: 21N28; 84E04; Time Zone: 80E30

> Lagna = Gemini; LL in 10th in Pisces

>

> Dasa: Me dasa is yet to come – it starts in 2060 only. Mars Dasa

Me Antara happened during March 2005 to March 2006. Note that Mars is

debilitated in the chart and is in 2nd house from Lagna that might

have amplified the bad effects. But this we won't be considering in

our analysis. Me is placed along with Ju and Su in 10th, indicating

tourism, hotel or similar business.

> In this chart, Me is affected by Ma (being Dasa lord), Su and Ju

(both of them place along with Me)

>

> Integration of both the above results [Holistic]

> Since his brother becomes his enemy (Ma owns 11th and 6th) and

may be due to many other reasons, he will have to suffer degradation

in position and income, but still he will maintain his independence

and reputation even in this bad period. He may change his work place

and residence and will not be satisfied with his current status.

(Future holds good for him once the Mars dasa is over), income will

increase and the domain of profession will remain the same)

> In short the native went through a period of fall from position,

and is still in hardships (though not much) as of now. He will come

up once the Ra dasa sets in. by 2008.

>

> Case 2 (Supplied by Kumar ji)

> DOB: 15 March 1965

> TOB: 00.15 AM

> POB: Hyderabad, India

> Lagna: Scorpio; LL Mars in 10th in Leo; Me in 5th

>

> Dasa: Me dasa is over in childhood by 1973 itself. Sun dasa Me

Antara happened in 2004 (i.e. Feb 2004 to Dec 2004). Sun is placed in

4th in enemy sign with Saturn (while Saturn is in its own house) and

is aspected by Mars (placed in Leo). Naturally this sun is supposed

to give some bad results related to the maternal house and relatives,

but will give some mixed results related to the job. But this we

won't be considering in our analysis.

> In this chart, Me is affected by Su (being Dasa lord), Ma

(aspecting Me with its aspect in 8th house from Leo)

>

> Integration of both the above results [Holistic]

> Health trouble to children or abortions (to wife)

during this period (if she got pregnant in the same period). Note

that the native is 39 years of age by then. Will continue with his

job or service (which could be in government or government related as

well) but won't be satisfied with the same. At the home where he took

birth he will have much troubles in maintaining relationship with

many close relatives – and will feel alone in argumentations, and

would be at lose. More friends and connections will come up, and life

continues as a continuous fight or struggle. [since the Moon dasa

started by 2006, now the things had taken a positive turn]

> This is a chart in which the results for Su in 4th

should be given special importance to understand the background, and

condition of the native in the past 6 years of Sun Dasa. Since Sun is

in 4th house, he would be a bit egotic and hot bodied. He will act

against the public opinion and will have a disturbed mind. That is,

due to too much thinking, he will lack the peace of mind and would be

usually sad. All his efforts will fructify after the age of 32 (or

better after 40). After that he would be appreciated and respected by

all, and will become popular for his knowledge and courage (to swim

against the tide and attain the target). He will not have much land

or wealth. Since Sun is in 4th and since 4th lord is strong and is

placed in own sign square from Natal Lagna - he will have vehicle as

indicated by the 4th lord. If the Sun is aspected by mars small

accidents and damage to the vehicle is a possibility – this is

already over. Even though he may have

> property (land and house) he won't be satisfied with the current

situations, he may even had to stay in rented houses for short

periods.

> Thus in short the native went through a period of

hardship and is coming up now. But in any case he will have to be

satisfied with his limited income and limited property at hand. (Yes,

he has some fixed assets land and building – and will deposit more

into similar things)

>

> Conclusion I am waiting for the response from the members who

supplied these charts, (But wait, let others also read these 2 charts

to know the effects of LL Me in 10th Pisces) to confirm whether the

results for LL in 10th and Me in Pisces matches with the actual

incidents and life they encountered or not. Pardon the fact that I

have given a bit extra importance to Dasa lords since in the case of

both the charts the Me Dasa is never happening under the period in

which we could verify the incidents.

> I invite other knowledgeable members to comment on these charts –

once the same is over the members who supplied these charts can

reveal the facts; so that we can verify the derivations.

> =====================================

>

> Love,

> Sreeandh

>

 

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sreenadh ji and esteemed members of the group it is

100 percent accurate prediction for sun maha dasa from

sreenadh ji i am in usa my father died in begining of

sun dasa from then onn havoc in every way and

depression and lot of thinking as sreenadh ji said

still i think why i came to US wat i am doing but hope

for the best and moon dasa has really given hope and

the first one to predict was madhu ji a legend in my

view greatfriend ok next is i am into realestate

started in moon dasa but it is white dominated so

takes time hoping best in future but still do odd jobs

tough jobes to make living and another thing my lagna

lord in 10 is retro and in sun dasa one more thing i

observed when i go to any work my work is not done for

example renew my licence me and my friend go there and

submit same time he gets his renewed licence and i am

still waiting 1 hour after i go and ask and it is not

found misplaced papers etc and got to wait 2 hours it

is just an example it happened multiple times i

should say often it changed in moon dasa thou but why

?and money never acumilates hand to mouth still after

13 years is it 8 th 11 th lord mercury debilitated in

5th pices and do i loose in speculation as my

realestate is related to speculation hope i did not

bored u with a long one take care and request to

disect and bisect if possible on points mentioned and

while closing thanks to sreenadh ji for everything you

did and do and thank all the members reading takecare

all of u godbless. kumar.

 

ps;forgive me for no paras comas etc hope u understand

just came home 4 AM astrology is my hobby and also

stress releaver lol thanks again to all

--- Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

 

> Dear RK ji,

> First thing first - Is the reading matches with

> facts or not?

> Now coming to your comments: Note that there is

> nothing called

> CANCELLATION in astrology as per my trust in the

> ancient system. If

> it is so -

> * All the results mentioned in the reading SHOULD

> come true.

> Or in other words -

> * All the good results mentioned (for LL in 10th)

> will come true -

> but to a very to a limited extend only (due to

> debilitation of LL)

> * All the bad results mentioned for Me in Pisces

> will come true, but

> to a lesser extend (since Me Dasa is not happening)

> * No need to consider other factors except Dasa

> (Because we are

> discussing the results for LL in 10th debilitated)

> So the final statement is -

> " All the results mentioned in the analysis should

> be true (even

> though the quantity may vary) - Do you agree with

> it?

>

> Once you clarify this, we can proceed with the

> 'stream lining' as

> you have mentioned below, if required -

> ==>

> We have to streamline the analysis, I believe. In

> the analysis of the

> charts supplied, we have to focus on a) Me as LL; b)

> what such an L1

> takes to H10; c) what happens to (1) H-1, (2) H-10,

> (3) H-4. This,

> where Me is getting debility.

> <==

>

> Note: This should be true both for the horoscope

> you supplied and

> for Kumar ji's horoscope.

>

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , rk

> dash

> <arkaydash wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sreenadh,

> > We have to streamline the analysis, I believe.

> In the analysis of

> the charts supplied, we have to focus on a) Me as

> LL; b) what such an

> L1 takes to H10; c) what happens to (1) H-1, (2)

> H-10, (3) H-4. This,

> where Me is getting debility. (In the chart supplied

> by me the

> debility is getting cancelled.)

> >

> > For Gem Asc, Me in H-10 takes the self to the

> vortex; but alas,

> the fall. Mantreswara's view of fall is for a

> debilitated planet in

> general. Yet M's ruling will translate fully in the

> example chart,

> since it is 10th house that is taking in a

> debilitated planet and the

> planet concerned is LL. Now what does Me do to H-10,

> if we discount

> the debility but blend (1) 'the first house', (2)

> the house of

> profession and one's standing in society, (3) Me's

> karakatwa, and to

> an extent (4) the fourth house. Yet we can't keep

> the debility factor

> out and judge all these.

> >

> > Sunil in a recent post (within the past couple

> of days, I think)

> says something intriguing:

> >

> > " 7th is always maraka and rasi of fall of any

> house "

> >

> > I have found a school of thought that says,

> facing houses run

> counter to each other, they cause detriment. 1st and

> 7th, 9th and

> 3rd, 10th and 4th, 8th and 2nd, maybe futher on. I

> don't know if

> we 'can' mainstream it without testing.

> >

> > In the present context, what is the 10th house

> acquiring from a

> 4th lord coming to it?

> >

> > Overall, this is how I'd go about the

> validation, not feeling

> handicapped by the fact that Me's dasha is not

> before us. True, the

> operative dasha of a lord under consideration would

> have given us

> superb advantage. We have to rely on the overall,

> life-time effect of

> this placement (ie, LL Me in H-10 Pi).

> >

> > One more thing. I haven't taken on two conjunct

> planets (in the

> chart supplied by me, viz Ju and Sun) so as not to

> further refract

> the derivation rays. That would crowd out the lines.

> And yes, I

> haven't pursued it down to the wire, expecting to be

> chackmated by

> more informed and experienced members of our forum.

> I look forward to

> standing corrected.

> >

> > RK

> >

> >

> >

> > Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

> > Dear All,

> > In the pevious mail I posted on the same, there

> was some

> mistakes. So I am reposting the same.

> > =====================================

> > We have 2 charts in hand. Here we are trying

> to derive results

> based on 2 of the following points alone (neglecting

> all the other

> factors that may affect the results).

> > 1) House in which LL is placed

> > 2) Sign in which LL is placed

> > Let us state our results objectively, and see

> how much the

> results match- from the response given by our

> respected members who

> provided these charts.

> > Ayanamsa used: True Ayanamsa of Chandrahari (46

> min more than

> Lahari)

> > Year length used: 365.2425 days normal solar

> year

> > In both the charts LL is in 10th, and Me is in

> Pisces. But the

> difference is that in the first chart Me is the LL,

> but in the other

> Mars is the lagna lord. The analysis is given below.

> > 1) Results for LL in 10th [Analytical]

> > If lagna lord is in 10th house, the native would

> be respected or

> rewarded by the king. He would be rewarded with good

> power and

> position. He will earn much money with his own

> effort and will become

> very popular individual respected for his

> capabilities. He will get

> much happiness from his father and mother. He will

> have - many

> bothers, high sexual urges, life loving nature, good

> qualities and

> beauty. He would be a scholar and righteous

> individual. He will

> respect guru, father and mother and live like a king

> with good

> wealth. [This is just a cut-paste from the previous

> article in which

> we discussed the same]

> > 2) Results for Me in Pisces [Analytical]

> > If Me is in Pisces he will do

> service to others (he

> will be servant to others) – meaning he would be

> doing a job that is

> a bit lower in status. It could be leather business

> (shoes, bags

> cloths etc) or could restaurant etc or anything else

> (but notably

> with a lower status). The planet aspecting Me will

> have much

> influence in determining the job (since Me is a

> planet that gets

> easily affected by the influence of other planets).

> Phaladeepika

> says, if a planet is in debilitation the native will

> get demoted in

> his job and position, will have many troubles (lack

> of enough money,

> debt etc), will have to take support from people

> whom he does not

> appreciate much and who may even cause much trouble

> later, will not

> be satisfied with his residence and work place, and

> will become a

> servant of others, and will have to travel here and

> there a lot (or

> change house or workplace) without benefit.

>

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Sreenadh, The reading matches facts/events to a goodly extent, particularly what Daivijna Venkatesh says of Me in Pi. How come? The dasa of Me is not on. Yet much (about 80% of the effects) is to be seen in a bad dasa, incidentally in the dasa of another debilitated planet. Now proceed. I'd prefer to see crisp footwork. RKSreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear RK ji,First thing first - Is the reading matches with facts or not?Now coming to

your comments: Note that there is nothing called CANCELLATION in astrology as per my trust in the ancient system. If it is so -* All the results mentioned in the reading SHOULD come true.Or in other words -* All the good results mentioned (for LL in 10th) will come true - but to a very to a limited extend only (due to debilitation of LL)* All the bad results mentioned for Me in Pisces will come true, but to a lesser extend (since Me Dasa is not happening)* No need to consider other factors except Dasa (Because we are discussing the results for LL in 10th debilitated)So the final statement is -"All the results mentioned in the analysis should be true (even though the quantity may vary) - Do you agree with it?Once you clarify this, we can proceed with the 'stream lining' as you have mentioned below, if required -==>We have to streamline the analysis, I believe. In the analysis of the charts

supplied, we have to focus on a) Me as LL; b) what such an L1 takes to H10; c) what happens to (1) H-1, (2) H-10, (3) H-4. This, where Me is getting debility. <==Note: This should be true both for the horoscope you supplied and for Kumar ji's horoscope.Love,Sreenadh , rk dash <arkaydash wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh,> We have to streamline the analysis, I believe. In the analysis of the charts supplied, we have to focus on a) Me as LL; b) what such an L1 takes to H10; c) what happens to (1) H-1, (2) H-10, (3) H-4. This, where Me is getting debility. (In the chart supplied by me the debility is getting cancelled.)> > For Gem Asc, Me in H-10 takes the self to the vortex; but alas, the fall. Mantreswara's view of fall is for a

debilitated planet in general. Yet M's ruling will translate fully in the example chart, since it is 10th house that is taking in a debilitated planet and the planet concerned is LL. Now what does Me do to H-10, if we discount the debility but blend (1) 'the first house', (2) the house of profession and one's standing in society, (3) Me's karakatwa, and to an extent (4) the fourth house. Yet we can't keep the debility factor out and judge all these. > > Sunil in a recent post (within the past couple of days, I think) says something intriguing: > > "7th is always maraka and rasi of fall of any house"> > I have found a school of thought that says, facing houses run counter to each other, they cause detriment. 1st and 7th, 9th and 3rd, 10th and 4th, 8th and 2nd, maybe futher on. I don't know if we 'can' mainstream it without testing. > > In the present context, what is the 10th

house acquiring from a 4th lord coming to it? > > Overall, this is how I'd go about the validation, not feeling handicapped by the fact that Me's dasha is not before us. True, the operative dasha of a lord under consideration would have given us superb advantage. We have to rely on the overall, life-time effect of this placement (ie, LL Me in H-10 Pi). > > One more thing. I haven't taken on two conjunct planets (in the chart supplied by me, viz Ju and Sun) so as not to further refract the derivation rays. That would crowd out the lines. And yes, I haven't pursued it down to the wire, expecting to be chackmated by more informed and experienced members of our forum. I look forward to standing corrected.> > RK> > > > Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:> Dear All,> In the pevious mail I posted on the same, there was some mistakes. So I am

reposting the same.> =====================================> We have 2 charts in hand. Here we are trying to derive results based on 2 of the following points alone (neglecting all the other factors that may affect the results).> 1) House in which LL is placed> 2) Sign in which LL is placed> Let us state our results objectively, and see how much the results match- from the response given by our respected members who provided these charts.> Ayanamsa used: True Ayanamsa of Chandrahari (46 min more than Lahari)> Year length used: 365.2425 days normal solar year> In both the charts LL is in 10th, and Me is in Pisces. But the difference is that in the first chart Me is the LL, but in the other Mars is the lagna lord. The analysis is given below.> 1) Results for LL in 10th [Analytical] > If lagna lord is in 10th house, the native would be respected or rewarded by

the king. He would be rewarded with good power and position. He will earn much money with his own effort and will become very popular individual respected for his capabilities. He will get much happiness from his father and mother. He will have - many bothers, high sexual urges, life loving nature, good qualities and beauty. He would be a scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, father and mother and live like a king with good wealth. [This is just a cut-paste from the previous article in which we discussed the same]> 2) Results for Me in Pisces [Analytical]> If Me is in Pisces he will do service to others (he will be servant to others) – meaning he would be doing a job that is a bit lower in status. It could be leather business (shoes, bags cloths etc) or could restaurant etc or anything else (but notably with a lower status). The planet aspecting Me will have much influence in determining

the job (since Me is a planet that gets easily affected by the influence of other planets). Phaladeepika says, if a planet is in debilitation the native will get demoted in his job and position, will have many troubles (lack of enough money, debt etc), will have to take support from people whom he does not appreciate much and who may even cause much trouble later, will not be satisfied with his residence and work place, and will become a servant of others, and will have to travel here and there a lot (or change house or workplace) without benefit. > Sarvartha Chintamani tells us that, in the dasa of debilitated Me in Pisces, the native would have to live away from his family and relatives. His intellect will not work correctly – i.e. all his plans and tactics will not reap much reward, and will fail. He would be in doubt – what to do, what not to do. Lose of position will happen, he may feel as if the earth below

his feet is shaking, since his even his solid assets would be at stake and so as profession. He will have to quarrel with his relatives, and may go abroad (or live away from home). He will feel sad as if lost in forest – i.e. he away from relatives he would have to live in such a place that he does not like at all - even daily routine will not be running smoothly, and he would be alone, and sadness sets in. In both the charts we consider, the Me dasa does not match – so only the glimpses of the above results would be there (in Me Antar dasa), but not that for sure glimpses of all these results would be> present.> > Case 1 (Supplied by RK ji)> DOB: 5 April 1963> TOB: 11.15 AM> POB: 21N28; 84E04; Time Zone: 80E30> Lagna = Gemini; LL in 10th in Pisces > > Dasa: Me dasa is yet to come – it starts in 2060 only. Mars Dasa Me Antara happened during March 2005 to March 2006. Note

that Mars is debilitated in the chart and is in 2nd house from Lagna that might have amplified the bad effects. But this we won't be considering in our analysis. Me is placed along with Ju and Su in 10th, indicating tourism, hotel or similar business. > In this chart, Me is affected by Ma (being Dasa lord), Su and Ju (both of them place along with Me)> > Integration of both the above results [Holistic]> Since his brother becomes his enemy (Ma owns 11th and 6th) and may be due to many other reasons, he will have to suffer degradation in position and income, but still he will maintain his independence and reputation even in this bad period. He may change his work place and residence and will not be satisfied with his current status. (Future holds good for him once the Mars dasa is over), income will increase and the domain of profession will remain the same)> In short the native went through a

period of fall from position, and is still in hardships (though not much) as of now. He will come up once the Ra dasa sets in. by 2008.> > Case 2 (Supplied by Kumar ji)> DOB: 15 March 1965> TOB: 00.15 AM> POB: Hyderabad, India> Lagna: Scorpio; LL Mars in 10th in Leo; Me in 5th> > Dasa: Me dasa is over in childhood by 1973 itself. Sun dasa Me Antara happened in 2004 (i.e. Feb 2004 to Dec 2004). Sun is placed in 4th in enemy sign with Saturn (while Saturn is in its own house) and is aspected by Mars (placed in Leo). Naturally this sun is supposed to give some bad results related to the maternal house and relatives, but will give some mixed results related to the job. But this we won't be considering in our analysis. > In this chart, Me is affected by Su (being Dasa lord), Ma (aspecting Me with its aspect in 8th house from Leo)> > Integration of both the above

results [Holistic]> Health trouble to children or abortions (to wife) during this period (if she got pregnant in the same period). Note that the native is 39 years of age by then. Will continue with his job or service (which could be in government or government related as well) but won't be satisfied with the same. At the home where he took birth he will have much troubles in maintaining relationship with many close relatives – and will feel alone in argumentations, and would be at lose. More friends and connections will come up, and life continues as a continuous fight or struggle. [since the Moon dasa started by 2006, now the things had taken a positive turn] > This is a chart in which the results for Su in 4th should be given special importance to understand the background, and condition of the native in the past 6 years of Sun Dasa. Since Sun is in 4th house, he would be a bit egotic and hot bodied. He will

act against the public opinion and will have a disturbed mind. That is, due to too much thinking, he will lack the peace of mind and would be usually sad. All his efforts will fructify after the age of 32 (or better after 40). After that he would be appreciated and respected by all, and will become popular for his knowledge and courage (to swim against the tide and attain the target). He will not have much land or wealth. Since Sun is in 4th and since 4th lord is strong and is placed in own sign square from Natal Lagna - he will have vehicle as indicated by the 4th lord. If the Sun is aspected by mars small accidents and damage to the vehicle is a possibility – this is already over. Even though he may have> property (land and house) he won't be satisfied with the current situations, he may even had to stay in rented houses for short periods. > Thus in short the native went through a period of hardship

and is coming up now. But in any case he will have to be satisfied with his limited income and limited property at hand. (Yes, he has some fixed assets land and building – and will deposit more into similar things)> > Conclusion I am waiting for the response from the members who supplied these charts, (But wait, let others also read these 2 charts to know the effects of LL Me in 10th Pisces) to confirm whether the results for LL in 10th and Me in Pisces matches with the actual incidents and life they encountered or not. Pardon the fact that I have given a bit extra importance to Dasa lords since in the case of both the charts the Me Dasa is never happening under the period in which we could verify the incidents. > I invite other knowledgeable members to comment on these charts – once the same is over the members who supplied these charts can reveal the facts; so that we can verify the derivations.>

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Dear RK ji,

As you have rightly mentioned -

==>

The dasa of Me is not on. Yet much (about 80% of the effects) is to

be seen in a bad dasa, incidentally in the dasa of another

debilitated planet.

<==

Yes - that is why I told -

==>

> Mars Dasa Me Antara happened during March 2005 to March 2006.

> Note that Mars is debilitated in the chart and is in 2nd house from

> Lagna that might have amplified the bad effects.

<==

 

Love,

Sreenadh

, rk dash

<arkaydash wrote:

>

> Sreenadh,

> The reading matches facts/events to a goodly extent, particularly

what Daivijna Venkatesh says of Me in Pi. How come? The dasa of Me is

not on. Yet much (about 80% of the effects) is to be seen in a bad

dasa, incidentally in the dasa of another debilitated planet.

>

> Now proceed. I'd prefer to see crisp footwork.

> RK

>

> Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

> Dear RK ji,

> First thing first - Is the reading matches with facts or not?

> Now coming to your comments: Note that there is nothing called

> CANCELLATION in astrology as per my trust in the ancient system. If

> it is so -

> * All the results mentioned in the reading SHOULD come true.

> Or in other words -

> * All the good results mentioned (for LL in 10th) will come true -

> but to a very to a limited extend only (due to debilitation of LL)

> * All the bad results mentioned for Me in Pisces will come true,

but

> to a lesser extend (since Me Dasa is not happening)

> * No need to consider other factors except Dasa (Because we are

> discussing the results for LL in 10th debilitated)

> So the final statement is -

> " All the results mentioned in the analysis should be true (even

> though the quantity may vary) - Do you agree with it?

>

> Once you clarify this, we can proceed with the 'stream lining' as

> you have mentioned below, if required -

> ==>

> We have to streamline the analysis, I believe. In the analysis of

the

> charts supplied, we have to focus on a) Me as LL; b) what such an

L1

> takes to H10; c) what happens to (1) H-1, (2) H-10, (3) H-4. This,

> where Me is getting debility.

> <==

>

> Note: This should be true both for the horoscope you supplied and

> for Kumar ji's horoscope.

>

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , rk dash

> <arkaydash@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sreenadh,

> > We have to streamline the analysis, I believe. In the analysis of

> the charts supplied, we have to focus on a) Me as LL; b) what such

an

> L1 takes to H10; c) what happens to (1) H-1, (2) H-10, (3) H-4.

This,

> where Me is getting debility. (In the chart supplied by me the

> debility is getting cancelled.)

> >

> > For Gem Asc, Me in H-10 takes the self to the vortex; but alas,

> the fall. Mantreswara's view of fall is for a debilitated planet in

> general. Yet M's ruling will translate fully in the example chart,

> since it is 10th house that is taking in a debilitated planet and

the

> planet concerned is LL. Now what does Me do to H-10, if we discount

> the debility but blend (1) 'the first house', (2) the house of

> profession and one's standing in society, (3) Me's karakatwa, and

to

> an extent (4) the fourth house. Yet we can't keep the debility

factor

> out and judge all these.

> >

> > Sunil in a recent post (within the past couple of days, I think)

> says something intriguing:

> >

> > " 7th is always maraka and rasi of fall of any house "

> >

> > I have found a school of thought that says, facing houses run

> counter to each other, they cause detriment. 1st and 7th, 9th and

> 3rd, 10th and 4th, 8th and 2nd, maybe futher on. I don't know if

> we 'can' mainstream it without testing.

> >

> > In the present context, what is the 10th house acquiring from a

> 4th lord coming to it?

> >

> > Overall, this is how I'd go about the validation, not feeling

> handicapped by the fact that Me's dasha is not before us. True, the

> operative dasha of a lord under consideration would have given us

> superb advantage. We have to rely on the overall, life-time effect

of

> this placement (ie, LL Me in H-10 Pi).

> >

> > One more thing. I haven't taken on two conjunct planets (in the

> chart supplied by me, viz Ju and Sun) so as not to further refract

> the derivation rays. That would crowd out the lines. And yes, I

> haven't pursued it down to the wire, expecting to be chackmated by

> more informed and experienced members of our forum. I look forward

to

> standing corrected.

> >

> > RK

> >

> >

> >

> > Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:

> > Dear All,

> > In the pevious mail I posted on the same, there was some

> mistakes. So I am reposting the same.

> > =====================================

> > We have 2 charts in hand. Here we are trying to derive results

> based on 2 of the following points alone (neglecting all the other

> factors that may affect the results).

> > 1) House in which LL is placed

> > 2) Sign in which LL is placed

> > Let us state our results objectively, and see how much the

> results match- from the response given by our respected members who

> provided these charts.

> > Ayanamsa used: True Ayanamsa of Chandrahari (46 min more than

> Lahari)

> > Year length used: 365.2425 days normal solar year

> > In both the charts LL is in 10th, and Me is in Pisces. But the

> difference is that in the first chart Me is the LL, but in the

other

> Mars is the lagna lord. The analysis is given below.

> > 1) Results for LL in 10th [Analytical]

> > If lagna lord is in 10th house, the native would be respected or

> rewarded by the king. He would be rewarded with good power and

> position. He will earn much money with his own effort and will

become

> very popular individual respected for his capabilities. He will get

> much happiness from his father and mother. He will have - many

> bothers, high sexual urges, life loving nature, good qualities and

> beauty. He would be a scholar and righteous individual. He will

> respect guru, father and mother and live like a king with good

> wealth. [This is just a cut-paste from the previous article in

which

> we discussed the same]

> > 2) Results for Me in Pisces [Analytical]

> > If Me is in Pisces he will do service to others (he

> will be servant to others) – meaning he would be doing a job that

is

> a bit lower in status. It could be leather business (shoes, bags

> cloths etc) or could restaurant etc or anything else (but notably

> with a lower status). The planet aspecting Me will have much

> influence in determining the job (since Me is a planet that gets

> easily affected by the influence of other planets). Phaladeepika

> says, if a planet is in debilitation the native will get demoted in

> his job and position, will have many troubles (lack of enough

money,

> debt etc), will have to take support from people whom he does not

> appreciate much and who may even cause much trouble later, will not

> be satisfied with his residence and work place, and will become a

> servant of others, and will have to travel here and there a lot (or

> change house or workplace) without benefit.

> > Sarvartha Chintamani tells us that, in the dasa of debilitated Me

> in Pisces, the native would have to live away from his family and

> relatives. His intellect will not work correctly – i.e. all his

plans

> and tactics will not reap much reward, and will fail. He would be

in

> doubt – what to do, what not to do. Lose of position will happen,

he

> may feel as if the earth below his feet is shaking, since his even

> his solid assets would be at stake and so as profession. He will

have

> to quarrel with his relatives, and may go abroad (or live away from

> home). He will feel sad as if lost in forest – i.e. he away from

> relatives he would have to live in such a place that he does not

like

> at all - even daily routine will not be running smoothly, and he

> would be alone, and sadness sets in. In both the charts we

consider,

> the Me dasa does not match – so only the glimpses of the above

> results would be there (in Me Antar dasa), but not that for sure

> glimpses of all these results would be

> > present.

> >

> > Case 1 (Supplied by RK ji)

> > DOB: 5 April 1963

> > TOB: 11.15 AM

> > POB: 21N28; 84E04; Time Zone: 80E30

> > Lagna = Gemini; LL in 10th in Pisces

> >

> > Dasa: Me dasa is yet to come – it starts in 2060 only. Mars Dasa

> Me Antara happened during March 2005 to March 2006. Note that Mars

is

> debilitated in the chart and is in 2nd house from Lagna that might

> have amplified the bad effects. But this we won't be considering in

> our analysis. Me is placed along with Ju and Su in 10th, indicating

> tourism, hotel or similar business.

> > In this chart, Me is affected by Ma (being Dasa lord), Su and Ju

> (both of them place along with Me)

> >

> > Integration of both the above results [Holistic]

> > Since his brother becomes his enemy (Ma owns 11th and 6th) and

> may be due to many other reasons, he will have to suffer

degradation

> in position and income, but still he will maintain his independence

> and reputation even in this bad period. He may change his work

place

> and residence and will not be satisfied with his current status.

> (Future holds good for him once the Mars dasa is over), income will

> increase and the domain of profession will remain the same)

> > In short the native went through a period of fall from position,

> and is still in hardships (though not much) as of now. He will come

> up once the Ra dasa sets in. by 2008.

> >

> > Case 2 (Supplied by Kumar ji)

> > DOB: 15 March 1965

> > TOB: 00.15 AM

> > POB: Hyderabad, India

> > Lagna: Scorpio; LL Mars in 10th in Leo; Me in 5th

> >

> > Dasa: Me dasa is over in childhood by 1973 itself. Sun dasa Me

> Antara happened in 2004 (i.e. Feb 2004 to Dec 2004). Sun is placed

in

> 4th in enemy sign with Saturn (while Saturn is in its own house)

and

> is aspected by Mars (placed in Leo). Naturally this sun is supposed

> to give some bad results related to the maternal house and

relatives,

> but will give some mixed results related to the job. But this we

> won't be considering in our analysis.

> > In this chart, Me is affected by Su (being Dasa lord), Ma

> (aspecting Me with its aspect in 8th house from Leo)

> >

> > Integration of both the above results [Holistic]

> > Health trouble to children or abortions (to wife)

> during this period (if she got pregnant in the same period). Note

> that the native is 39 years of age by then. Will continue with his

> job or service (which could be in government or government related

as

> well) but won't be satisfied with the same. At the home where he

took

> birth he will have much troubles in maintaining relationship with

> many close relatives – and will feel alone in argumentations, and

> would be at lose. More friends and connections will come up, and

life

> continues as a continuous fight or struggle. [since the Moon dasa

> started by 2006, now the things had taken a positive turn]

> > This is a chart in which the results for Su in 4th

> should be given special importance to understand the background,

and

> condition of the native in the past 6 years of Sun Dasa. Since Sun

is

> in 4th house, he would be a bit egotic and hot bodied. He will act

> against the public opinion and will have a disturbed mind. That is,

> due to too much thinking, he will lack the peace of mind and would

be

> usually sad. All his efforts will fructify after the age of 32 (or

> better after 40). After that he would be appreciated and respected

by

> all, and will become popular for his knowledge and courage (to swim

> against the tide and attain the target). He will not have much land

> or wealth. Since Sun is in 4th and since 4th lord is strong and is

> placed in own sign square from Natal Lagna - he will have vehicle

as

> indicated by the 4th lord. If the Sun is aspected by mars small

> accidents and damage to the vehicle is a possibility – this is

> already over. Even though he may have

> > property (land and house) he won't be satisfied with the current

> situations, he may even had to stay in rented houses for short

> periods.

> > Thus in short the native went through a period of

> hardship and is coming up now. But in any case he will have to be

> satisfied with his limited income and limited property at hand.

(Yes,

> he has some fixed assets land and building – and will deposit more

> into similar things)

> >

> > Conclusion I am waiting for the response from the members who

> supplied these charts, (But wait, let others also read these 2

charts

> to know the effects of LL Me in 10th Pisces) to confirm whether the

> results for LL in 10th and Me in Pisces matches with the actual

> incidents and life they encountered or not. Pardon the fact that I

> have given a bit extra importance to Dasa lords since in the case

of

> both the charts the Me Dasa is never happening under the period in

> which we could verify the incidents.

> > I invite other knowledgeable members to comment on these charts –

> once the same is over the members who supplied these charts can

> reveal the facts; so that we can verify the derivations.

> > =====================================

> >

> > Love,

> > Sreeandh

> >

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