Guest guest Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Dear DM ji (default-moderator): I will produce the chart soon enough: today hopefully. But if you think the chart is mine, as your fey smiley supposes, you are off the mark. I am not that. That's a friend's, with whom I merely share the crucial sign. Yours RK jiSreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear RK ji,==>> How exactly the two blend in case of Gemini lagna is something we wait till actual horoscopes are taken up and the nett outcome seen. <==I agree completly with this statement, and request members to present horoscope with LL in 10th and compare with actual results.==>LL in 10H and Mc in Pi<==1) LL in 10H = House Base2) Me in Pi = Sign-Planet BaseTreating them separately is 'Analytical Approach', and then combining the results and gauging the net result is 'Holistic Approach'. Note that Analytical is the base and Holistic is the culmination. But without the first 'Analytical approach' the second become baseless and 'chaos' as RK ji mentioned once. Note: RK ji you can present that chart (LL in 10H in Pi) and results now it self - It is the time for that. :)Love,Sreenadh , rk dash <arkaydash wrote:>> Sree,> How exactly the two blend in case of Gemini lagna is something we wait till actual horoscopes are taken up and the nett outcome seen. But that doesn't mean the ruling for LL in 10H is invalid or suspect. So you rightly stand your ground. The two (LL in 10H and Mc in Pi) will run concurrent. The nett effect to be gauged from actual charts. There may be other rajayoag-adding factors in 10H in a horoscope. I know of a chart (owner) that has in Pi as 10H Mc, Ju, and Su. But fact remains he experiences the effects of pulled-down LL despite relief from (debility) by way of Jup's association. The complete chart later. > > RK> > Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:> Dear Renu ji,> Thanks. > ==>> > Now a question regarding 10H and LL. Many nice things are promised > > when LL is in 10H. Are all these applicable to Gemini Lagna too, > > since LL Mercury gets debilitated in 10H, Pisces? > <==> Yes, they are - but the results will get a bit modified, and even > though the same good results, its amount won't be as much. But > this 'modification of results' caused by 'Sign-Planet' combination > should not be considered here because here we are exclusively dealing > with 'House' alone. > An astrologer who is aware of both -> * House Base results (Eg. LL in 10th house) & > * Sign-House Base results (Eg. Me in Pi) > can easily see these modifications. But for the learner, the only > way for systematic study is to learn these two things separately.> Love,> Sreenadh> > , "renunw" > <renunw@> wrote:> >> > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > > > You are doing a great service by explaining the basics relevant to > > Lagna Lords placed in various houses as per ancient classics and > > thereby opening the door for discussions. The cuase-effect system > of > > analysis makes it easier to remember the principles and sensible > > too..thank you!> > > > Now a question regarding 10H and LL. Many nice things are promised > > when LL is in 10H. Are all these applicable to Gemini Lagna too, > > since LL Mercury gets debilitated in 10H, Pisces? > > > > blessings> > > > Renu> > > > , "Sreenadh" > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > Here is the intial info for sharing our views about 'Lagna > > lord in> > > 10th house. Let us start -> > > > > > =============================================> > > Lagna lord in 10th House> > > ---> > > > > > > > > If lagna lord is in 10th house, the native would be respected or> > > rewarded by the king. He would be rewarded with good power and > > position.> > > He will earn much money with his own effort and will become very > > popular> > > individual respected for his capabilities. He will get much > > happiness> > > from his father and mother. He will have - many bothers, high > > sexual> > > urges, life loving nature, good qualities and beauty. He would be > a> > > scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, father and> > > mother and live like a king with good wealth.> > > > > > If lagna lord is in 10th house, the native would be respected and> > > rewarded by the king. He would be rewarded with good power and > > position.> > > He will earn much money with his own effort and will become very > > popular> > > individual (respected for his capabilities).> > > > > > - Parasara Hora> > > > > > Prestige, popularity and respect are signified by 10th house. It > > is area> > > of the zodiac that is just above our head - the highest point, > and > > is in> > > the visible area of the sky. No wonder, lagna lord in 10th will > > make the> > > native a much respectable individual, respected or rewarded even > > by the> > > king, the government or people in power. Lagna lord in 10th > means, > > the> > > native is in his highest position of exaltation in social life,> > > excellently using his capabilities to the maximum extend. Thus the> > > derivation - he will earn much money with his own effort. As > > mentioned> > > earlier popularity is signified by 10th house itself. Thus the > > above> > > sloka simply attributes the qualities signified by 10th house on > > the> > > native - to derive the results.> > > > > > Rule 9: The significance of the house reflects through the house > > lord> > > (e.g. Lagna lord) placed in any house. i.e. To derive the result, > > try> > > associating the significance of the house with the individual or > > thing> > > signified by the house lord.> > > > > > It is the above rule that makes the native intelligent if lagna > > lord is> > > placed in 5th, makes the native simple minded and loving if lagna > > is in> > > 4th, makes the native popular and wealthy if lagna lord is in > 10th.> > > > > > Another version of this sloka of sage Parasara is also available, > > which> > > is given below-> > > > > > If the lagna lord is in 4th or 10th house, the native will get > much> > > happiness from his father and mother. He will have many bothers. > > He will> > > have - high sexual urges, life loving nature, good qualities and > > beauty.> > > > > > - Parasara Hora> > > > > > It is discussed earlier itself (while discussing 4th and 9th > house)> > > that, as per Parasara 10th house signify father. That is why in > the> > > above sloka it is said that, `if lagna lord is in 10th house the> > > native will get much happiness from father'. Of course any planet > > in> > > 10th aspects 4th house and that is why `happiness from mother'> > > as well. This helps us to locate one more rule.> > > > > > Rule 10: Lagna lord gives beneficial results to any house that it> > > aspects.> > > > > > The reason for `having many brothers' is also discussed while> > > discussing 4th house. All the other results in the above sloka is> > > derived, as if lagna lord is placed in 4th, since from 10th it > > aspects> > > 4th house. Of course life-loving nature (4th) combined with > > excellence> > > in job (10th) is sure to give good results such as mental peace > and> > > public respect.> > > > > > Rule 11: The aspect gives results similar to placement. Both can > be> > > interchanged while trying to derive, more and more results, from > > the> > > combinations present in the natal chart.> > > > > > Use this rule, anywhere when you feel that it is getting > difficult > > to> > > derive more and more results - certainly this makes the result> > > derivation an easier task by providing more possibilities.> > > > > > If lagna lord in 10th, he will get (monetary) help from king. He > > would> > > be a scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, > > father and> > > mother and live like a king with good wealth.> > > > > > - Meenaraja Hora> > > > > > Any person in highest position and power is signified by 10th > > house and> > > so naturally it signifies king or government. Lagna lord is in > > 10th,> > > indicating a mutual beneficial association between the government > > and> > > the native. That is why the derivation - `he will get help (award,> > > promotion or monetary help) from the government'. Scholarship is a> > > quality associated with 9th house. 10th is 2nd house from 9th. > > Presence> > > of lagna lord there provides beneficial results for 10th. From > > earlier> > > discussion we know `The 2nd house from any house strengthens the> > > effects of the house prior to it'. Thus naturally lagna lord in > > 10th> > > increases the qualities of 9th, one of which happens to be > > scholarship.> > > That is why it is said that the native would be a scholar. 9th is> > > strengthened - that is why guru is respected. Both 10th and 4th > > benefits> > > from the placement of lagna lord in 10th, and that is why it is > > said> > > that `he will respect his father and mother', respect being a> > > quality imparted to native through the 10th house. In his high > > position> > > and finest exposition of excellence (10th house - mid heaven), the> > > native is natural to live like a king with good wealth - and thus > > the> > > derivation. Horapradeepa gives another version of the above sloka.> > > > > > If lagna lord in 10th, he will get (monetary) help from king. He > > would> > > be a scholar and righteous individual. He will respect guru, > > father and> > > mother. He would be an individual who is popular like a king.> > > > > > - Hora Pradeepam> > > > > > The only difference this sloka has is that it gives more > > importance to> > > the popularity gained by the native, a quality of 10th house.> > > > > > The 10th house signifies things such as - power, position, > > popularity,> > > public respect, job, fame, father, kingly wealth and prestige, > > expertise> > > in things, excellence in job etc. Thus the placement of lagna > lord > > in> > > 10th generates special importance to the derivations related to > the> > > same.> > > > > > - by Sreenadh (sreesog@)> > > > > > =============================================> > > Love,> > > Sreenadh> > >> >> > > > > > > > Why delete messages? Unlimited storage is just a click away.> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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