(Let's get on with...!) Time, we moderated selves

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Dear RK ji,

Beutiful! As usual! I must say that I agree to most of those points

- to even the ones pointing to me. What you present is balanced

thought - and I am sincerely agree with it.

But the negatives.. (You didn't mention them in your mail) - what

will we do with them? And that is what makes me worry - with this

moderating bit.

As you said I would love, if some one else comes up and handles the

group. Actually this I tried for some time and became necessary in my

absence - and we can still see it in our post numbers received in -

* Aug-Sep-Oct-Nov-Dec for the year 2006 &

* Jan-Feb-Mar-April for the year 2007

Yah - I agree that there was 2 bits involved -

1) Contribution bit &

2) Moderation bit

Of course if the major members in our group handles the second, I

would be much happy with the first. And actually this was what I was

trying to do for long.

If not - Srinivas, Sunil, RK, Vinita, Pradeep etc (and new major

sincere members who are coming up) - who can do that?!! So it is our

group and I request to all major members start moderating. Take it as

your responsibility - and then we can concentrate more in studies. I

will get a bit more free time - which I will try to use for studies

and writings for the benefit of us all - in group.

==>

> The point is if we are one of the very best as a group, we

> (collectively and individually) mustn't say/write unguarded words.

<==

As of this point - I feel confident that the major members are

balanced enough to judge the things impartially - even without a

discussion among them. Actually confident individuality is what is

necessary than a democracy that stands below average for us! And in

that I am a brave supporter of our major members including yours. What

they do - they know; and that itself makes it worthy and balanced.

So I would suggest let all the lively pillars act in their own right

as per the balanced thinking from within themselves; and for sure it

will never be of the board. The resonance is there and that is why we

are here - and that is what makes it worthy and beautiful. It is not

necessary that each moderator member should discuss with each other -

let them act at their own right - it would be right I know for sure.

I am an individual, and many in this group are I know - and all of

them are in place at their own right! If you act – why should I ask –

I know that there should be a reason – and that would be logically

balanced and right – and that makes it worthy and beautiful. Yah,

finding such individuals is a real task – usually they are too rare.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, rk dash

<arkaydash wrote:

>

> Dear Vinita, Sreenadh, Sunil and members:

>

> The forum is crackling. Issues remain, however.

>

> Reading some of the postings of the past few days, I gather we

have got to get a little organised. New members are getting browned

off by our default-moderator Sreenadh. I would love to give the final

say to member Jhar Bird when he says he finds virtue in the alleged

rudeness of Sreenadh, but PT will make his resolution, and Sunil says,

sub silentio, " Fine, come and go. " The point is if we are one of the

very best as a group, we (collectively and individually) mustn't

say/write unguarded words. Few, can afford to be breezy without

causing real hurt to others: Vinita for one, or yours sincerely for

another. But everyone can skid. As for example, me w.r.t. Vinita (I

almost fell... O not for her!)

>

> Friends, PT had his views about the framework of Indian astrology

in a six-limb surrender. The utility of the surrender remains moot. A

similar saastanga praNipaat to a vedic savant may not come the way of

a learned new member, but as he settles down he gets his due of

respect: as Sreenadh explains. Sreenadh has taken pains to make PT see

reason. That was lost on PT. Perhaps a better argumentation for the

refutation intended would not have led to the 'dire resolution'. But

what is so dire? Nothing is. Except that we should have given PT

enough rope to... you know what, or alternatively, we could have

climbed up his rope and vanished -- attaining some rarefied insights

of astro nivarna.

>

> We could have picked his brains and benefited as he would go

expanding on:

>

> > " intellectuals is lack of humility to those

> >who really know (gno). "

>

> How he relates gnosis to astrology

>

> >They want to figure it all out themselves when they are just like

blind >struggling in a dark room. And than they want the learned to

conform their

> >narrow parameters.

>

> Got him to lay down the parameters and lead us out of our dim room

as Sreenadh does, I mean, parameters.

>

> >The Phi-re realtes to the Phi ratio (fibonacci ratio).

> >All of nature works on this ratio.

>

> We could have got him to ratiotinate with our partially furnished

minds, and explain to our semi-learned sensibility how 'fibonacci

ratio' is relevant to the tools we already have.

>

> >The Rishi's understood the Universe from

> > a very different plane of thought.

>

> Who knows he may have partaken of the effulgence of the universe

the rishis did! Sincerely.

>

> > " We don't accept even teachers without testing. Please bear

> >with it for the time being. Further this group has a motto that 'No

> >one is teacher here'. It is a problem of strategy and approach " ....

> >Prove it - as I told you we have a test, and teasing in the

> >beginning. But you see, it is just for the time being and then

> >everything will settle down and natural respect will come up - in the

> >case were ever it is deserved.

>

> He (PT) would not be moved by Sreenadh's reply. But Sreenadh could

have done without the likes of this bit:

>

> > And than they want the learned to conform their narrow parameters.

> >OK. So you say that you are learned, and you really know! That is

> >great!

>

> This amounts to taunt. Even the book-brag bit could have been ignored.

>

> If we have a blameless spirit (of inquiry), a reasonably good code

for politness (may you be scintillating in your wit and cracks, yet

not rude) and do our reading and researching on a learned plane,

people will gravitate to the forum, even subah ka bhulaa can come back

home in the evening.

>

> As of now Sreenadh has been doing the nearest thing to moderating;

and he has to read every word of mine here (he does, and carefully).

He will go on doing it. I am sure he will be too happy to have

somebody moderate the group in his stead. But we have none as yet. I

am told people from some of the very reputed astrology establishments

of India are invisible members here. Some have a reputation behind

them, of practice or writing or research. They are senior or very

senior people; they read our postings and love to keep abreast of

" hey, whas goin on in here " . They've got to hide their love away. Or

have they? We have to keep this in mind, too, if not ask why. And

strive to bring yet more light -- lights, as in leading lights -- into

this room.

>

> Well, friends, I must end the spiel here.

>

> RK

>

> Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

> Dear Vinita ji,

> It is not a joke - and you will remain to be our moderator i

> know.

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " vinita kumar "

> <shankar_mamta@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shreenadh,

> >

> > I take it as your idea of a practical joke to make me a moderator.

> > Yes, i have got the message from and couldn't help

> > appreciating the joke.

> >

> > Though it is very generous of u, i cannot accept the offer. Many

> > thanks anyway!

> >

> > I look forward to your OTHER reply about Bhavat Bhavam.

> >

> > (Will be away for the next 8 days or so....will read it when i come

> > back)

> >

> > Love,

> > Vinita

> >

> > , " Sreenadh "

> > <sreesog@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vinita ji,

> > > ==>

> > > > Shreenadh, i'm not trying to moderate

> > > <==

> > > You can moderate! It is your group..! Do you know one thing?

> > You

> > > are one of the moderators of this group - if in doubt, check

> > it..

> > >

> > > ==>

> > > > Shreenadh dear, why should the Bhavat Bhavam principle apply

> > only

> > > > to odd houses (1-3-5-7-9-11) - 2 kedras - 2 trikonas - 2

> > upachaya

> > > > houses? You discussed this in a previous thread...but i want to

> > > > know more about it. All these houses form pairs. How do pairs

> > > > relate to each other and to other houses. For e.g., how should

> 3-

> > 9

> > > > be related to each other and to other houses, i.e., 2nd, 8th,

> > 5th

> > > > and 11th(since 3rd house is 2nd from 2nd and 8th from 8th,

> > whereas

> > > > 9th is 5th from 5th and 11th from 11th) Maybe it is a stupid

> > > > question - but i thought i'll ask it anyways.

> > > <==

> > > Yes, it is right question - I will try to answer it in another

> > > mail - as to the extend my limited knowledge permits..

> > > Love,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> > > , " vinita kumar "

> > > <shankar_mamta@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Shreenadh, dear PT,

> > > >

> > > > Both of u have such interesting things to say...so let's get on

> > > with

> > > > business...

> > > >

> > > > Despite all the differences i know u respect each other...so

> > please

> > > > don't get into each other's hair...don't indulge in hair

> > splitting

> > > > abt meaning of words...don't raise your hackles everytime your

> > > paths

> > > > cross....otherwise, we'll all end up in a hairy mess. (BTW, PT,

> > i

> > > do

> > > > like long hair)(BTW Shreenadh, i'm not trying to

> moderate)...but

> > > the

> > > > 2 of u do bring out the motherly instincts when u behave like

> > > > kids:):) - (There is a strong MERCURY connection between the

> > two

> > > of

> > > > u, methinks)

> > > >

> > > > As a novice i have 2 questions to ask ....

> > > >

> > > > Shreenadh dear, why should the Bhavat Bhavam principle apply

> > only

> > > to

> > > > odd houses (1-3-5-7-9-11) - 2 kedras - 2 trikonas - 2 upachaya

> > > > houses? You discussed this in a previous thread...but i want to

> > > know

> > > > more about it. All these houses form pairs. How do pairs relate

> > to

> > > > each other and to other houses. For e.g., how should 3-9 be

> > related

> > > > to each other and to other houses, i.e., 2nd, 8th, 5th and 11th

> > > (since

> > > > 3rd house is 2nd from 2nd and 8th from 8th, whereas 9th is 5th

> > from

> > > > 5th and 11th from 11th) Maybe it is a stupid question - but i

> > > thought

> > > > i'll ask it anyways.

> > > >

> > > > Dear PT, what is the real significance of Shastyamsa? what do

> > the

> > > > sages have to say abt it? What do your findings indicate?

> > > >

> > > > Love,

> > > > Vinita

> > > >

> > >

> >

 

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