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Let us get starting with the subject....NO point in rhetoric......or getting personal........expect to see your subject and context with introduction..etc.... in your next posting.....you can choose your own chart initially, but you need to replicate the technique on other blind horoscope as well......hope you appreciate this point.......

 

Expect you to respond to the following:

a) What is Shastiamsa

b) Why it is important

c) What are the inferences once can draw on it

d) How it is calculated

e) What is the astro_classics got to say on it i.e. D-60

f) When talking or discussing about vargas, first explain how the varga are to be interpreted with examples

g) Do you consider D-60 Shastiamsa as a varga or something different......

h) How do you ensure that the birth data that is given to you is correct or not......{ assuming the birth data given by many people is correct to their knowledge, with minor variation in minutes & seconds...} in such cases, what methods or conditions or combinations are to be checked for its rectification. Explain it with an example.

In all the above cases, you may start with your known birth data....later you MUST test your method on few BLIND HOROSCOPES. Till then it is considered as a theory......i.e. derived theory.......

with regards,

sreeram srinivas

Quoting astrology:

Dear Sreeram,

Thanks for your invitation and email. Here is my side to the story~

practise astrology...........as we have read enough of it and let me known that there are members in this group who have experienced it much much beyond that you have just mentioned and are very advanced in spirituality If that is the case than the knowledge shown in the forum would becommensurate to that spiritual understanding. i have not seenany sign of that as yet. >- in sheer practice repeat practice and iti is a strong belief, { scriptures also mention it explicitly} NOT to mention the experiences unless instructed by God through his bliss. i believe in God within and bliss. however my understanding of theterm 'GOD' is different from > Another example - UNACCEPTABLE statements - BPHS is only 1% of total astrology. Once again I am misquoted ~ I said the present verison of BPHS is only 1% of originalversion of Sage Parashra's teachings. Most of BPHS has been lost in time. What we haveis a tiny fragment.

You can start with the following birth data posted by a member, reproduced once again belowMale, 22nd july 1943 at 16.50.00 Yokohama, Japan

If I have to teach about Shashtiamsha I would start with the chart I deem fit.

Thanks & Regards,

Prash Trivedi

Sreeram Srinivas Home : +91 11 2785 1519Cell : +91 98682 31817 << tech.gif >> www.osfa.org.uk

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How can we interpret d-60, if we don't know what each amsa means?Can you give us a brief meaning for each? I would be very grrateful.sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote: Let us get starting with the subject....NO point in rhetoric......or getting personal........expect to see your subject and context with introduction..etc.... in your next posting.....you can choose your own chart initially, but you need to

replicate the technique on other blind horoscope as well......hope you appreciate this point....... Expect you to respond to the following: a) What is Shastiamsa b) Why it is important c) What are the inferences once can draw on it d) How it is calculated e) What is the

astro_classics got to say on it i.e. D-60 f) When talking or discussing about vargas, first explain how the varga are to be interpreted with examples g) Do you consider D-60 Shastiamsa as a varga or something different...... h) How do you ensure that the birth data that is given to you is correct or not......{ assuming the birth data given by many people is correct to their knowledge, with minor variation in minutes & seconds...} in such cases, what methods or conditions or combinations are to be checked for its rectification. Explain it with an example.

In all the above cases, you may start with your known birth data....later you MUST test your method on few BLIND HOROSCOPES. Till then it is considered as a theory......i.e. derived theory....... with regards, sreeram srinivas Quoting astrology (AT) karmablueprint (DOT) com: Dear Sreeram, Thanks for your invitation and email. Here is my side to the story~ practise astrology...........as we have read enough of it and let me known that there are members in this group who have experienced it much much beyond that you have just mentioned and are very advanced in spirituality If that is the case than the knowledge shown in the forum would becommensurate to that spiritual understanding. i have not seenany sign of that as yet. >- in sheer practice repeat practice and iti is a strong belief, { scriptures also mention it explicitly} NOT to mention the experiences unless instructed by God through his bliss. i believe in God within and bliss. however my understanding of theterm 'GOD' is different from > Another example - UNACCEPTABLE statements - BPHS is only 1% of total astrology. Once again I am misquoted ~ I said the

present verison of BPHS is only 1% of originalversion of Sage Parashra's teachings. Most of BPHS has been lost in time. What we haveis a tiny fragment. You can start with the following birth data posted by a member, reproduced once again belowMale, 22nd july 1943 at 16.50.00 Yokohama, Japan If I have to teach about Shashtiamsha I would start with the chart I deem fit. Thanks & Regards, Prash Trivedi Sreeram Srinivas Home : +91 11 2785 1519Cell : +91 98682 31817 << tech.gif >> www.osfa.org.uk

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Dear Zhar ji,

 

Noice th follwoing path which we ignore as of now in this thread:

=================================================================

Actually, there is a long way to go before taking up D60

systematically.

1) It should be clarified how 7-fold approach applies to Divisions

2) It should be clarified how those general rules can be applied to

R x 60 = D60 as well. (Here all signs gets the lordship for D60

vargs). This done following the Dwadasa varga scheam.

3) Then it should be clarified whether the Shadvargadhipa lord ship

determination style can be applied to D60 or not and whether any

relevant quotes available. If so how to use it.

4) Now comes the names for D60 amsas given in texts like BPHS and

the Devatas given for them. The question - why a deviation from

Dwadasa varga and Shadvargadhipa scheame is suggested?, should be

clarified.

5) Then we can explain how to use this unique 3rd method (R x 60 &

Vargadhipa scheams being the other two), i.e. Amsa names & Devatas to

be used in practical astrology.

Any effort to use or understand first taking the 5th point is

nothing but an erroneous path in a systematic approach & lact of

understanding of ancient indian astrolgy. :) When we reach up to D60

all the 4 points (above the 5th) should be clear to us by then.

 

Many took the 5th point and struggled without benefit – till date;

and it will contiue here as well..lol.. But if some one really want

to do that let him - and we are all ready to co-operate... :)

=======================================================

Now you know where you are - so start from there, i.e. without even

knowing the meaning of D60 names.. ;) - The meaning of words and the

results they point to. Also note that PT and you are the teachers to

us in this regard - and we are just the students.. :) So proceed

bravely - and a chart of an individual from Japan is there to be

cracked before you like a coconut, to be treated with D60 :=) Clarify

our doubts on D60 - instead of asking them... :)

 

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, zhar bird

<blagomot wrote:

>

> How can we interpret d-60, if we don't know what each amsa means?

> Can you give us a brief meaning for each?

> I would be very grrateful.

>

> sreeram srinivas <sreeram64

wrote:

> Let us get starting with the subject....NO point in

rhetoric......or getting personal........expect to see your subject

and context with introduction..etc.... in your next posting.....you

can choose your own chart initially, but you need to replicate the

technique on other blind horoscope as well......hope you appreciate

this point.......

> Expect you to respond to the following:

> a) What is Shastiamsa

> b) Why it is important

> c) What are the inferences once can draw on it

> d) How it is calculated

> e) What is the astro_classics got to say on it i.e. D-60

> f) When talking or discussing about vargas, first explain how

the varga are to be interpreted with examples

> g) Do you consider D-60 Shastiamsa as a varga or something

different......

> h) How do you ensure that the birth data that is given to you

is correct or not......{ assuming the birth data given by many

people is correct to their knowledge, with minor variation in minutes

& seconds...} in such cases, what methods or conditions or

combinations are to be checked for its rectification. Explain it

with an example.

> In all the above cases, you may start with your known birth

data....later you MUST test your method on few BLIND HOROSCOPES.

Till then it is considered as a theory......i.e. derived

theory.......

> with regards,

> sreeram srinivas

> Quoting astrology:

> Dear Sreeram,

> Thanks for your invitation and email. Here is my side to the

story~

> practise astrology...........as we have read enough of it and let

me known that there are members in this group who have experienced

it much much beyond that you have just mentioned and are very

advanced in spirituality If that is the case than the knowledge

shown in the forum would becommensurate to that spiritual

understanding. i have not seenany sign of that as yet. >- in sheer

practice repeat practice and iti is a strong belief, { scriptures

also mention it explicitly} NOT to mention the experiences unless

instructed by God through his bliss. i believe in God within and

bliss. however my understanding of theterm 'GOD' is different from >

Another example - UNACCEPTABLE statements - BPHS is only 1% of total

astrology. Once again I am misquoted ~ I said the present verison of

BPHS is only 1% of originalversion of Sage Parashra's teachings.

Most of BPHS has been lost in time. What we haveis a tiny fragment.

> You can start with the following birth data posted by a member,

reproduced once again belowMale, 22nd july 1943 at 16.50.00

Yokohama, Japan

> If I have to teach about Shashtiamsha I would start with the

chart I deem fit.

> Thanks & Regards,

> Prash Trivedi

> Sreeram Srinivas Home : +91 11 2785 1519Cell : +91 98682 31817

<< tech.gif >> www.osfa.org.uk

 

> Got a little couch potato?

> Check out fun summer activities for kids.

>

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Dear Mr. Trivedi ji,I looked at Japanese charts. There are actually several Yokohamas in Japan, so I picked one with avg lo+lat.Based on my knowledge, I would say that this man had a difficult childhood, and lost his father early. Perhaps, his mother as well. He is patriotic, intellegent, should be able to defeat his enemies. But he is not steady. Regarless of profession, he is an astute politician + deal maker. But does not hold to his $. So inheritance, and other $ come and go. And $ could be big (Ju trines Mo in 4th and Picses). But he may even consciously give his wealth away. He is likely to be spiritual, a buddhist? And probably travels a lot.But he can also be aggressive and pitiless.He may never marry, but has many relationships instead. Or, he has many wives / mistresses. He has a son.But he does not live long. His health is fragile since childhood. Actually,it may improve later in life.Ve dasa would give him many opportunities. Sun dasa

could be important professionally, but he may lose his father, have spiritual experiences, travel. Bad for his life? Moon dasa would be good for $ but difficult for family. Mars would be good for business and children.Now in Shastiamsa, Sa, his atma karaka is in moolatrikona but in 3rd (lots of fighting and challenges?) I don't know how to interpret this so I am guessing.His Sun is in 9th in leo - he has great mentor and or great father?Venus is in 10th in Virgo - not too good for overall success? Ju, ruler of lagna there in 7th - is it as bad as it would have been in Rasi chart?Without a guidance to interpretation, i feel like a blind kitten, guessing more than anything. I don't know how to interpret vargas, only how to judge the strength of planets thru them.Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear Zhar ji, Noice th follwoing path which we ignore as of now in this thread: ================================================================= Actually, there is a long way to go before taking up D60 systematically. 1) It should be clarified how 7-fold approach applies to Divisions 2) It should be clarified how those general rules can be applied to R x 60 = D60 as well. (Here all signs gets the lordship for D60 vargs). This done following the Dwadasa varga scheam. 3) Then it should be clarified whether the Shadvargadhipa lord ship determination style can be applied to D60 or not and whether any relevant quotes

available. If so how to use it. 4) Now comes the names for D60 amsas given in texts like BPHS and the Devatas given for them. The question - why a deviation from Dwadasa varga and Shadvargadhipa scheame is suggested?, should be clarified. 5) Then we can explain how to use this unique 3rd method (R x 60 & Vargadhipa scheams being the other two), i.e. Amsa names & Devatas to be used in practical astrology. Any effort to use or understand first taking the 5th point is nothing but an erroneous path in a systematic approach & lact of understanding of ancient indian astrolgy. :) When we reach up to D60 all the 4 points (above the 5th) should be clear to us by then. Many took the 5th point and struggled without benefit – till date; and it will contiue here as well..lol.. But if some one really want to do that let him - and we are all ready to co-operate... :)

======================================================= Now you know where you are - so start from there, i.e. without even knowing the meaning of D60 names.. ;) - The meaning of words and the results they point to. Also note that PT and you are the teachers to us in this regard - and we are just the students.. :) So proceed bravely - and a chart of an individual from Japan is there to be cracked before you like a coconut, to be treated with D60 :=) Clarify our doubts on D60 - instead of asking them... :) Love, Sreenadh , zhar bird <blagomot wrote: > > How can we interpret d-60, if we don't know what each amsa means? > Can you give us a brief meaning for each? > I would be very grrateful. > > sreeram

srinivas <sreeram64 wrote: > Let us get starting with the subject....NO point in rhetoric......or getting personal........expect to see your subject and context with introduction..etc.... in your next posting.....you can choose your own chart initially, but you need to replicate the technique on other blind horoscope as well......hope you appreciate this point....... > Expect you to respond to the following: > a) What is Shastiamsa > b) Why it is important > c) What are the inferences once can draw on it > d) How it is calculated > e) What is the astro_classics got to say on it i.e. D-60 > f) When talking or discussing about vargas, first explain how the varga are to be interpreted with examples > g) Do you consider D-60 Shastiamsa as a varga or something

different...... > h) How do you ensure that the birth data that is given to you is correct or not......{ assuming the birth data given by many people is correct to their knowledge, with minor variation in minutes & seconds...} in such cases, what methods or conditions or combinations are to be checked for its rectification. Explain it with an example. > In all the above cases, you may start with your known birth data....later you MUST test your method on few BLIND HOROSCOPES. Till then it is considered as a theory......i.e. derived theory....... > with regards, > sreeram srinivas > Quoting astrology: > Dear Sreeram, > Thanks for your invitation and email. Here is my side to the story~ > practise astrology...........as we have read enough of it and let me known that there are members in this group

who have experienced it much much beyond that you have just mentioned and are very advanced in spirituality If that is the case than the knowledge shown in the forum would becommensurate to that spiritual understanding. i have not seenany sign of that as yet. >- in sheer practice repeat practice and iti is a strong belief, { scriptures also mention it explicitly} NOT to mention the experiences unless instructed by God through his bliss. i believe in God within and bliss. however my understanding of theterm 'GOD' is different from > Another example - UNACCEPTABLE statements - BPHS is only 1% of total astrology. Once again I am misquoted ~ I said the present verison of BPHS is only 1% of originalversion of Sage Parashra's teachings. Most of BPHS has been lost in time. What we haveis a tiny fragment. > You can start with the following birth data posted by a member, reproduced once again

belowMale, 22nd july 1943 at 16.50.00 Yokohama, Japan > If I have to teach about Shashtiamsha I would start with the chart I deem fit. > Thanks & Regards, > Prash Trivedi > Sreeram Srinivas Home : +91 11 2785 1519Cell : +91 98682 31817 << tech.gif >> www.osfa.org.uk > > > > > > > > Got a little couch potato? > Check out fun summer activities for kids. >

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Dear Zhar ji,

But where D60 here? The explanations seems like a D(minus)60! :)

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, zhar bird

<blagomot wrote:

>

> Dear Mr. Trivedi ji,

> I looked at Japanese charts. There are actually several Yokohamas in

Japan, so I picked one with avg lo+lat.

> Based on my knowledge, I would say that this man had a difficult

childhood, and lost his father early. Perhaps, his mother as well.

> He is patriotic, intellegent, should be able to defeat his enemies.

But he is not steady. Regarless of profession, he is an astute

politician + deal maker. But does not hold to his $. So inheritance,

and other $ come and go. And $ could be big (Ju trines Mo in 4th and

Picses). But he may even consciously give his wealth away. He is

likely to be spiritual, a buddhist? And probably travels a lot.

> But he can also be aggressive and pitiless.

> He may never marry, but has many relationships instead. Or, he has

many wives / mistresses. He has a son.

> But he does not live long. His health is fragile since childhood.

Actually,it may improve later in life.

> Ve dasa would give him many opportunities. Sun dasa could be

important professionally, but he may lose his father, have spiritual

experiences, travel. Bad for his life? Moon dasa would be good for $

but difficult for family. Mars would be good for business and children.

> Now in Shastiamsa, Sa, his atma karaka is in moolatrikona but in 3rd

(lots of fighting and challenges?) I don't know how to interpret this

so I am guessing.

> His Sun is in 9th in leo - he has great mentor and or great father?

> Venus is in 10th in Virgo - not too good for overall success? Ju,

ruler of lagna there in 7th - is it as bad as it would have been in

Rasi chart?

> Without a guidance to interpretation, i feel like a blind kitten,

guessing more than anything. I don't know how to interpret vargas,

only how to judge the strength of planets thru them.

>

> Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear

Zhar ji,

>

> Noice th follwoing path which we ignore as of now in this thread:

> =================================================================

> Actually, there is a long way to go before taking up D60

> systematically.

> 1) It should be clarified how 7-fold approach applies to Divisions

> 2) It should be clarified how those general rules can be applied to

> R x 60 = D60 as well. (Here all signs gets the lordship for D60

> vargs). This done following the Dwadasa varga scheam.

> 3) Then it should be clarified whether the Shadvargadhipa lord ship

> determination style can be applied to D60 or not and whether any

> relevant quotes available. If so how to use it.

> 4) Now comes the names for D60 amsas given in texts like BPHS and

> the Devatas given for them. The question - why a deviation from

> Dwadasa varga and Shadvargadhipa scheame is suggested?, should be

> clarified.

> 5) Then we can explain how to use this unique 3rd method (R x 60 &

> Vargadhipa scheams being the other two), i.e. Amsa names & Devatas to

> be used in practical astrology.

> Any effort to use or understand first taking the 5th point is

> nothing but an erroneous path in a systematic approach & lact of

> understanding of ancient indian astrolgy. :) When we reach up to D60

> all the 4 points (above the 5th) should be clear to us by then.

>

> Many took the 5th point and struggled without benefit – till date;

> and it will contiue here as well..lol.. But if some one really want

> to do that let him - and we are all ready to co-operate... :)

> =======================================================

> Now you know where you are - so start from there, i.e. without even

> knowing the meaning of D60 names.. ;) - The meaning of words and the

> results they point to. Also note that PT and you are the teachers to

> us in this regard - and we are just the students.. :) So proceed

> bravely - and a chart of an individual from Japan is there to be

> cracked before you like a coconut, to be treated with D60 :=) Clarify

> our doubts on D60 - instead of asking them... :)

>

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , zhar bird

> <blagomot@> wrote:

> >

> > How can we interpret d-60, if we don't know what each amsa means?

> > Can you give us a brief meaning for each?

> > I would be very grrateful.

> >

> > sreeram srinivas <sreeram64@>

> wrote:

> > Let us get starting with the subject....NO point in

> rhetoric......or getting personal........expect to see your subject

> and context with introduction..etc.... in your next posting.....you

> can choose your own chart initially, but you need to replicate the

> technique on other blind horoscope as well......hope you appreciate

> this point.......

> > Expect you to respond to the following:

> > a) What is Shastiamsa

> > b) Why it is important

> > c) What are the inferences once can draw on it

> > d) How it is calculated

> > e) What is the astro_classics got to say on it i.e. D-60

> > f) When talking or discussing about vargas, first explain how

> the varga are to be interpreted with examples

> > g) Do you consider D-60 Shastiamsa as a varga or something

> different......

> > h) How do you ensure that the birth data that is given to you

> is correct or not......{ assuming the birth data given by many

> people is correct to their knowledge, with minor variation in minutes

> & seconds...} in such cases, what methods or conditions or

> combinations are to be checked for its rectification. Explain it

> with an example.

> > In all the above cases, you may start with your known birth

> data....later you MUST test your method on few BLIND HOROSCOPES.

> Till then it is considered as a theory......i.e. derived

> theory.......

> > with regards,

> > sreeram srinivas

> > Quoting astrology@:

> > Dear Sreeram,

> > Thanks for your invitation and email. Here is my side to the

> story~

> > practise astrology...........as we have read enough of it and let

> me known that there are members in this group who have experienced

> it much much beyond that you have just mentioned and are very

> advanced in spirituality If that is the case than the knowledge

> shown in the forum would becommensurate to that spiritual

> understanding. i have not seenany sign of that as yet. >- in sheer

> practice repeat practice and iti is a strong belief, { scriptures

> also mention it explicitly} NOT to mention the experiences unless

> instructed by God through his bliss. i believe in God within and

> bliss. however my understanding of theterm 'GOD' is different from >

> Another example - UNACCEPTABLE statements - BPHS is only 1% of total

> astrology. Once again I am misquoted ~ I said the present verison of

> BPHS is only 1% of originalversion of Sage Parashra's teachings.

> Most of BPHS has been lost in time. What we haveis a tiny fragment.

> > You can start with the following birth data posted by a member,

> reproduced once again belowMale, 22nd july 1943 at 16.50.00

> Yokohama, Japan

> > If I have to teach about Shashtiamsha I would start with the

> chart I deem fit.

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > Prash Trivedi

> > Sreeram Srinivas Home : +91 11 2785 1519Cell : +91 98682 31817

> << tech.gif >> www.osfa.org.uk

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Got a little couch potato?

> > Check out fun summer activities for kids.

> >

 

> Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story.

> Play Sims Stories at Games.

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Hare ramakrishna,

dear Zhar ji .

The co ordinates for the place of Yokohama is 139" 39' 0 E and 35" 26' 0 N .

Now you can do it without much trouble.

regrds sunil nair.

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

, "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Zhar ji,> But where D60 here? The explanations seems like a D(minus)60! :)> Love,> Sreenadh> > , zhar bird> blagomot@ wrote:> >> > Dear Mr. Trivedi ji,> > I looked at Japanese charts. There are actually several Yokohamas in> Japan, so I picked one with avg lo+lat.> > Based on my knowledge, I would say that this man had a difficult> childhood, and lost his father early. Perhaps, his mother as well. > > He is patriotic, intellegent, should be able to defeat his enemies.> But he is not steady. Regarless of profession, he is an astute> politician + deal maker. But does not hold to his $. So inheritance,> and other $ come and go. And $ could be big (Ju trines Mo in 4th and> Picses). But he may even consciously give his wealth away. He is> likely to be spiritual, a buddhist? And probably travels a lot.> > But he can also be aggressive and pitiless.> > He may never marry, but has many relationships instead. Or, he has> many wives / mistresses. He has a son.> > But he does not live long. His health is fragile since childhood.> Actually,it may improve later in life.> > Ve dasa would give him many opportunities. Sun dasa could be> important professionally, but he may lose his father, have spiritual> experiences, travel. Bad for his life? Moon dasa would be good for $> but difficult for family. Mars would be good for business and children.> > Now in Shastiamsa, Sa, his atma karaka is in moolatrikona but in 3rd> (lots of fighting and challenges?) I don't know how to interpret this> so I am guessing.> > His Sun is in 9th in leo - he has great mentor and or great father?> > Venus is in 10th in Virgo - not too good for overall success? Ju,> ruler of lagna there in 7th - is it as bad as it would have been in> Rasi chart?> > Without a guidance to interpretation, i feel like a blind kitten,> guessing more than anything. I don't know how to interpret vargas,> only how to judge the strength of planets thru them.> > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote: Dear> Zhar ji,> > > > Noice th follwoing path which we ignore as of now in this thread:> > =================================================================> > Actually, there is a long way to go before taking up D60 > > systematically. > > 1) It should be clarified how 7-fold approach applies to Divisions> > 2) It should be clarified how those general rules can be applied to > > R x 60 = D60 as well. (Here all signs gets the lordship for D60 > > vargs). This done following the Dwadasa varga scheam.> > 3) Then it should be clarified whether the Shadvargadhipa lord ship > > determination style can be applied to D60 or not and whether any > > relevant quotes available. If so how to use it.> > 4) Now comes the names for D60 amsas given in texts like BPHS and > > the Devatas given for them. The question - why a deviation from > > Dwadasa varga and Shadvargadhipa scheame is suggested?, should be > > clarified.> > 5) Then we can explain how to use this unique 3rd method (R x 60 & > > Vargadhipa scheams being the other two), i.e. Amsa names & Devatas to > > be used in practical astrology.> > Any effort to use or understand first taking the 5th point is > > nothing but an erroneous path in a systematic approach & lact of > > understanding of ancient indian astrolgy. :) When we reach up to D60 > > all the 4 points (above the 5th) should be clear to us by then. > > > > Many took the 5th point and struggled without benefit – till date; > > and it will contiue here as well..lol.. But if some one really want > > to do that let him - and we are all ready to co-operate... :) > > =======================================================> > Now you know where you are - so start from there, i.e. without even > > knowing the meaning of D60 names.. ;) - The meaning of words and the > > results they point to. Also note that PT and you are the teachers to > > us in this regard - and we are just the students.. :) So proceed > > bravely - and a chart of an individual from Japan is there to be > > cracked before you like a coconut, to be treated with D60 :=) Clarify > > our doubts on D60 - instead of asking them... :)> > > > Love,> > Sreenadh> > > > , zhar bird > > <blagomot@> wrote:> > >> > > How can we interpret d-60, if we don't know what each amsa means?> > > Can you give us a brief meaning for each? > > > I would be very grrateful.> > > > > > sreeram srinivas <sreeram64@> > > wrote: > > > Let us get starting with the subject....NO point in > > rhetoric......or getting personal........expect to see your subject > > and context with introduction..etc.... in your next posting.....you > > can choose your own chart initially, but you need to replicate the > > technique on other blind horoscope as well......hope you appreciate > > this point.......> > > Expect you to respond to the following:> > > a) What is Shastiamsa> > > b) Why it is important> > > c) What are the inferences once can draw on it> > > d) How it is calculated> > > e) What is the astro_classics got to say on it i.e. D-60> > > f) When talking or discussing about vargas, first explain how > > the varga are to be interpreted with examples> > > g) Do you consider D-60 Shastiamsa as a varga or something > > different......> > > h) How do you ensure that the birth data that is given to you > > is correct or not......{ assuming the birth data given by many > > people is correct to their knowledge, with minor variation in minutes > > & seconds...} in such cases, what methods or conditions or > > combinations are to be checked for its rectification. Explain it > > with an example. > > > In all the above cases, you may start with your known birth > > data....later you MUST test your method on few BLIND HOROSCOPES. > > Till then it is considered as a theory......i.e. derived > > theory.......> > > with regards,> > > sreeram srinivas > > > Quoting astrology@:> > > Dear Sreeram, > > > Thanks for your invitation and email. Here is my side to the > > story~ > > > practise astrology...........as we have read enough of it and let > > me known that there are members in this group who have experienced > > it much much beyond that you have just mentioned and are very > > advanced in spirituality If that is the case than the knowledge > > shown in the forum would becommensurate to that spiritual > > understanding. i have not seenany sign of that as yet. >- in sheer > > practice repeat practice and iti is a strong belief, { scriptures > > also mention it explicitly} NOT to mention the experiences unless > > instructed by God through his bliss. i believe in God within and > > bliss. however my understanding of theterm 'GOD' is different from > > > Another example - UNACCEPTABLE statements - BPHS is only 1% of total > > astrology. Once again I am misquoted ~ I said the present verison of > > BPHS is only 1% of originalversion of Sage Parashra's teachings. > > Most of BPHS has been lost in time. What we haveis a tiny fragment.> > > You can start with the following birth data posted by a member, > > reproduced once again belowMale, 22nd july 1943 at 16.50.00 > > Yokohama, Japan > > > If I have to teach about Shashtiamsha I would start with the > > chart I deem fit. > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > Prash Trivedi> > > Sreeram Srinivas Home : +91 11 2785 1519Cell : +91 98682 31817 > > << tech.gif >> www.osfa.org.uk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Got a little couch potato? > > > Check out fun summer activities for kids.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story.> > Play Sims Stories at Games.> >>

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It appears that our friend Mr. Prakash Trivedi -purported to be an

acclaimed person with tons of astro secrets has suddently

disappeared or simply not interested to share his knowledgebase with

others.

 

It is over a week that he has posted anything in the forum. While

we wait another fortnight, before we wrap up claims of Mr. Prakash

Trivedi, let me caution the members here that there are many

instances of astrologers and spiritual gurus getting accolades in

West who are new to this subject, consider everything said to be

true....for they have very open mind, lack of knowledgebase on

sanskrit, which it would take ages for a westerner to learn for this

Gods Language has its basis in the daily living and not so easy to

grasp the language living in USA.

 

On the subject of Shastiamsa, Mr. Prakash Trivedi has jumped the

subject, reflects his immaturity. He got confused with Planet

degrees and amsa. {Refer his response to Sreenadh's query on Signs+

amsa or Planets+amsa..}.

 

I happened to browse the websites owned and maintained by Mr.

Prakash Trivedi {my guess ....going by the content

therein...correct me if my judgement is wrong}, where he mentions

his gothra and great lineage. He is NOT aware that many other

Indians also have great lineage and legacy to boast off...but in

terms of real contribution....they stand at ground zero or below

that.

 

Political Example: Mahatma Gandhi ideals are represented by Ms.

Sonia Gandhi at the recently held UN function, who does NOT

know " I " in India's founding fatherMahatma Gandhi. Moreover, she

has ABSOLUTELY NO relation with founding father even to the remote

logics, except for the surname.

Infact this " surname transfer " happened with Mrs. Indira Gandhi, for

certain reasons - beyond the subject purview of this group.

 

Unless one has some sound contributions to the knowledge or society,

one should stop taking credit of one's lineage.

 

Coming to the issue of a member writing for an apology on - brahmin

slurs..etc., let us not forget that it each community is

responsible for current state of affairs. " The past cast shadows

present " . " Present lives in the shadows of future " . Unless we

breakaway, the rules will remain.

 

Even today Germany has to bear the negativism assigned by a single

name of Adolf Hitler. Similarly, the brahmins proclaiming to be

guardians of secret knowledge, could not guard the sacred

nadis,...they are lost forever. Who are we to blame now..?? Had

the knowledge shared across the community, the possibility of its

regaining its past glory are more.

 

It is the " gunas " which differentiates or makes a person brahmin.

The so called " Nairs " in this group have been spreading knowledge,

much better than self proclaimed " Guru " like Mr. Prakash Trivedi who

is very proud of being a brahim of Bharadwaj Gothra. This trivedi

charges US $$ & yearns to patent his knowledge - if one were to

delve into his psychic - given in his earlier mail on Jupiter dasha

& patenting.....- An irrelevant statement by him...linking Jupiter

dasha, fame & patenting.....= what a contrast by this brahmin - who

appears to be hardcore materialistic, could be example of current

generation {excuse me of this general statement}...etc..

 

The main controversies of Astrology in general-

a) Which event of birth process -is the time of epoch {conception,

umblical cord cutting, cry of the newborn..etc.}

 

b) Vargas or Divisional Charts { different school of thoughts}

c) Aspects - traditional parashara and jamini, {many kichidi

techniques available where mix of traditions is seen as a value and

practised with aplomb !! }

d) Techniques of applying Ashtakvarga

e) Exaltation, Debilitation in birth chart & amsa positions....

f) Retrograde exaltation & debilitation.....

g) Combustion of planets....Jupiter & Saturn combustion or Mercury

combustion...{differences of opinion...}

 

many such more....in each case, one difference on a subject...leads

to many variations in level 2..3...etc..

 

So it is essential what is given in astro classics first,then

members can frame their own opinions accordingly.

 

Conclusion:

Let us wait for another 15 days, hoping Mr. Prakash Trivedi comes up

with his " gems " before we write him off with dignity and proceed

with our agenda.

 

with regards,

sreeram srinivas

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Some meaningful verses from Dhammapada for anyone who can spare a

few minutes to learn who a real Brahmin is: Not birth or lineage

that makes a Brahmin but the actions.....

 

" Whoever does no wrong

in body,

speech,

heart,

is restrained in these three ways:

he's what I call

a brahman.

 

 

Not by matted hair,

by clan, or by birth,

is one a brahman.

Whoever has truth

& rectitude:

he is a pure one,

he, a brahman.

 

 

I don't call one a brahman

for being born of a mother

or sprung from a womb.

He's called a 'bho-sayer'

if he has anything at all.

But someone with nothing,

who clings to no thing:

he's what I call

a brahman

 

He endures — unangered —

insult, assault, & imprisonment.

His army is strength;

his strength, forbearance:

he's what I call

a brahman.

 

 

 

Free from anger,

duties observed,

principled, with no overbearing pride,

trained, a 'last-body':

he's what I call

a brahman

 

 

 

Like water on a lotus leaf,

a mustard seed on the tip of an awl,

he doesn't adhere to sensual pleasures:

he's what I call

a brahman.

 

 

 

Uncontaminated

by householders

& houseless ones alike;

living with no home,

with next to no wants:

he's what I call

a brahman.

 

 

 

Having put aside violence

against beings fearful or firm,

he neither kills nor

gets others to kill:

he's what I call

a brahman.

 

 

He endures — unangered —

insult, assault, & imprisonment.

His army is strength;

his strength, forbearance:

he's what I call

a brahman. "

 

blessings

 

Renu

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Sre_eram "

<sreeram64 wrote:

>

> It appears that our friend Mr. Prakash Trivedi -purported to be an

> acclaimed person with tons of astro secrets has suddently

> disappeared or simply not interested to share his knowledgebase

with

> others.

>

> It is over a week that he has posted anything in the forum. While

> we wait another fortnight, before we wrap up claims of Mr. Prakash

> Trivedi, let me caution the members here that there are many

> instances of astrologers and spiritual gurus getting accolades in

> West who are new to this subject, consider everything said to be

> true....for they have very open mind, lack of knowledgebase on

> sanskrit, which it would take ages for a westerner to learn for

this

> Gods Language has its basis in the daily living and not so easy to

> grasp the language living in USA.

>

> On the subject of Shastiamsa, Mr. Prakash Trivedi has jumped the

> subject, reflects his immaturity. He got confused with Planet

> degrees and amsa. {Refer his response to Sreenadh's query on

Signs+

> amsa or Planets+amsa..}.

>

> I happened to browse the websites owned and maintained by Mr.

> Prakash Trivedi {my guess ....going by the content

> therein...correct me if my judgement is wrong}, where he mentions

> his gothra and great lineage. He is NOT aware that many other

> Indians also have great lineage and legacy to boast off...but in

> terms of real contribution....they stand at ground zero or below

> that.

>

> Political Example: Mahatma Gandhi ideals are represented by Ms.

> Sonia Gandhi at the recently held UN function, who does NOT

> know " I " in India's founding fatherMahatma Gandhi. Moreover, she

> has ABSOLUTELY NO relation with founding father even to the remote

> logics, except for the surname.

> Infact this " surname transfer " happened with Mrs. Indira Gandhi,

for

> certain reasons - beyond the subject purview of this group.

>

> Unless one has some sound contributions to the knowledge or

society,

> one should stop taking credit of one's lineage.

>

> Coming to the issue of a member writing for an apology on -

brahmin

> slurs..etc., let us not forget that it each community is

> responsible for current state of affairs. " The past cast shadows

> present " . " Present lives in the shadows of future " . Unless we

> breakaway, the rules will remain.

>

> Even today Germany has to bear the negativism assigned by a single

> name of Adolf Hitler. Similarly, the brahmins proclaiming to be

> guardians of secret knowledge, could not guard the sacred

> nadis,...they are lost forever. Who are we to blame now..?? Had

> the knowledge shared across the community, the possibility of its

> regaining its past glory are more.

>

> It is the " gunas " which differentiates or makes a person brahmin.

> The so called " Nairs " in this group have been spreading knowledge,

> much better than self proclaimed " Guru " like Mr. Prakash Trivedi

who

> is very proud of being a brahim of Bharadwaj Gothra. This trivedi

> charges US $$ & yearns to patent his knowledge - if one were to

> delve into his psychic - given in his earlier mail on Jupiter

dasha

> & patenting.....- An irrelevant statement by him...linking

Jupiter

> dasha, fame & patenting.....= what a contrast by this brahmin -

who

> appears to be hardcore materialistic, could be example of current

> generation {excuse me of this general statement}...etc..

>

> The main controversies of Astrology in general-

> a) Which event of birth process -is the time of epoch {conception,

> umblical cord cutting, cry of the newborn..etc.}

>

> b) Vargas or Divisional Charts { different school of thoughts}

> c) Aspects - traditional parashara and jamini, {many kichidi

> techniques available where mix of traditions is seen as a value

and

> practised with aplomb !! }

> d) Techniques of applying Ashtakvarga

> e) Exaltation, Debilitation in birth chart & amsa positions....

> f) Retrograde exaltation & debilitation.....

> g) Combustion of planets....Jupiter & Saturn combustion or Mercury

> combustion...{differences of opinion...}

>

> many such more....in each case, one difference on a

subject...leads

> to many variations in level 2..3...etc..

>

> So it is essential what is given in astro classics first,then

> members can frame their own opinions accordingly.

>

> Conclusion:

> Let us wait for another 15 days, hoping Mr. Prakash Trivedi comes

up

> with his " gems " before we write him off with dignity and proceed

> with our agenda.

>

> with regards,

> sreeram srinivas

>

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Dear Renu ji,

Beautiful!! Thanks a lot.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, " renunw " <renunw

wrote:

>

> Some meaningful verses from Dhammapada for anyone who can spare a

> few minutes to learn who a real Brahmin is: Not birth or lineage

> that makes a Brahmin but the actions.....

>

> " Whoever does no wrong

> in body,

> speech,

> heart,

> is restrained in these three ways:

> he's what I call

> a brahman.

>

>

> Not by matted hair,

> by clan, or by birth,

> is one a brahman.

> Whoever has truth

> & rectitude:

> he is a pure one,

> he, a brahman.

>

>

> I don't call one a brahman

> for being born of a mother

> or sprung from a womb.

> He's called a 'bho-sayer'

> if he has anything at all.

> But someone with nothing,

> who clings to no thing:

> he's what I call

> a brahman

>

> He endures — unangered —

> insult, assault, & imprisonment.

> His army is strength;

> his strength, forbearance:

> he's what I call

> a brahman.

>

>

>

> Free from anger,

> duties observed,

> principled, with no overbearing pride,

> trained, a 'last-body':

> he's what I call

> a brahman

>

>

>

> Like water on a lotus leaf,

> a mustard seed on the tip of an awl,

> he doesn't adhere to sensual pleasures:

> he's what I call

> a brahman.

>

>

>

> Uncontaminated

> by householders

> & houseless ones alike;

> living with no home,

> with next to no wants:

> he's what I call

> a brahman.

>

>

>

> Having put aside violence

> against beings fearful or firm,

> he neither kills nor

> gets others to kill:

> he's what I call

> a brahman.

>

>

> He endures — unangered —

> insult, assault, & imprisonment.

> His army is strength;

> his strength, forbearance:

> he's what I call

> a brahman. "

>

> blessings

>

> Renu

>

, " Sre_eram "

> <sreeram64@> wrote:

> >

> > It appears that our friend Mr. Prakash Trivedi -purported to be an

> > acclaimed person with tons of astro secrets has suddently

> > disappeared or simply not interested to share his knowledgebase

> with

> > others.

> >

> > It is over a week that he has posted anything in the forum. While

> > we wait another fortnight, before we wrap up claims of Mr. Prakash

> > Trivedi, let me caution the members here that there are many

> > instances of astrologers and spiritual gurus getting accolades in

> > West who are new to this subject, consider everything said to be

> > true....for they have very open mind, lack of knowledgebase on

> > sanskrit, which it would take ages for a westerner to learn for

> this

> > Gods Language has its basis in the daily living and not so easy to

> > grasp the language living in USA.

> >

> > On the subject of Shastiamsa, Mr. Prakash Trivedi has jumped the

> > subject, reflects his immaturity. He got confused with Planet

> > degrees and amsa. {Refer his response to Sreenadh's query on

> Signs+

> > amsa or Planets+amsa..}.

> >

> > I happened to browse the websites owned and maintained by Mr.

> > Prakash Trivedi {my guess ....going by the content

> > therein...correct me if my judgement is wrong}, where he mentions

> > his gothra and great lineage. He is NOT aware that many other

> > Indians also have great lineage and legacy to boast off...but in

> > terms of real contribution....they stand at ground zero or below

> > that.

> >

> > Political Example: Mahatma Gandhi ideals are represented by Ms.

> > Sonia Gandhi at the recently held UN function, who does NOT

> > know " I " in India's founding fatherMahatma Gandhi. Moreover, she

> > has ABSOLUTELY NO relation with founding father even to the remote

> > logics, except for the surname.

> > Infact this " surname transfer " happened with Mrs. Indira Gandhi,

> for

> > certain reasons - beyond the subject purview of this group.

> >

> > Unless one has some sound contributions to the knowledge or

> society,

> > one should stop taking credit of one's lineage.

> >

> > Coming to the issue of a member writing for an apology on -

> brahmin

> > slurs..etc., let us not forget that it each community is

> > responsible for current state of affairs. " The past cast shadows

> > present " . " Present lives in the shadows of future " . Unless we

> > breakaway, the rules will remain.

> >

> > Even today Germany has to bear the negativism assigned by a single

> > name of Adolf Hitler. Similarly, the brahmins proclaiming to be

> > guardians of secret knowledge, could not guard the sacred

> > nadis,...they are lost forever. Who are we to blame now..?? Had

> > the knowledge shared across the community, the possibility of its

> > regaining its past glory are more.

> >

> > It is the " gunas " which differentiates or makes a person brahmin.

> > The so called " Nairs " in this group have been spreading knowledge,

> > much better than self proclaimed " Guru " like Mr. Prakash Trivedi

> who

> > is very proud of being a brahim of Bharadwaj Gothra. This trivedi

> > charges US $$ & yearns to patent his knowledge - if one were to

> > delve into his psychic - given in his earlier mail on Jupiter

> dasha

> > & patenting.....- An irrelevant statement by him...linking

> Jupiter

> > dasha, fame & patenting.....= what a contrast by this brahmin -

> who

> > appears to be hardcore materialistic, could be example of current

> > generation {excuse me of this general statement}...etc..

> >

> > The main controversies of Astrology in general-

> > a) Which event of birth process -is the time of epoch {conception,

> > umblical cord cutting, cry of the newborn..etc.}

> >

> > b) Vargas or Divisional Charts { different school of thoughts}

> > c) Aspects - traditional parashara and jamini, {many kichidi

> > techniques available where mix of traditions is seen as a value

> and

> > practised with aplomb !! }

> > d) Techniques of applying Ashtakvarga

> > e) Exaltation, Debilitation in birth chart & amsa positions....

> > f) Retrograde exaltation & debilitation.....

> > g) Combustion of planets....Jupiter & Saturn combustion or Mercury

> > combustion...{differences of opinion...}

> >

> > many such more....in each case, one difference on a

> subject...leads

> > to many variations in level 2..3...etc..

> >

> > So it is essential what is given in astro classics first,then

> > members can frame their own opinions accordingly.

> >

> > Conclusion:

> > Let us wait for another 15 days, hoping Mr. Prakash Trivedi comes

> up

> > with his " gems " before we write him off with dignity and proceed

> > with our agenda.

> >

> > with regards,

> > sreeram srinivas

> >

>

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Thanks Sreenadh ji...I am happy that you liked it.

 

blessings

 

Renu

 

, " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Renu ji,

> Beautiful!! Thanks a lot.

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " renunw " <renunw@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Some meaningful verses from Dhammapada for anyone who can spare

a

> > few minutes to learn who a real Brahmin is: Not birth or lineage

> > that makes a Brahmin but the actions.....

> >

> > " Whoever does no wrong

> > in body,

> > speech,

> > heart,

> > is restrained in these three ways:

> > he's what I call

> > a brahman.

> >

> >

> > Not by matted hair,

> > by clan, or by birth,

> > is one a brahman.

> > Whoever has truth

> > & rectitude:

> > he is a pure one,

> > he, a brahman.

> >

> >

> > I don't call one a brahman

> > for being born of a mother

> > or sprung from a womb.

> > He's called a 'bho-sayer'

> > if he has anything at all.

> > But someone with nothing,

> > who clings to no thing:

> > he's what I call

> > a brahman

> >

> > He endures — unangered —

> > insult, assault, & imprisonment.

> > His army is strength;

> > his strength, forbearance:

> > he's what I call

> > a brahman.

> >

> >

> >

> > Free from anger,

> > duties observed,

> > principled, with no overbearing pride,

> > trained, a 'last-body':

> > he's what I call

> > a brahman

> >

> >

> >

> > Like water on a lotus leaf,

> > a mustard seed on the tip of an awl,

> > he doesn't adhere to sensual pleasures:

> > he's what I call

> > a brahman.

> >

> >

> >

> > Uncontaminated

> > by householders

> > & houseless ones alike;

> > living with no home,

> > with next to no wants:

> > he's what I call

> > a brahman.

> >

> >

> >

> > Having put aside violence

> > against beings fearful or firm,

> > he neither kills nor

> > gets others to kill:

> > he's what I call

> > a brahman.

> >

> >

> > He endures — unangered —

> > insult, assault, & imprisonment.

> > His army is strength;

> > his strength, forbearance:

> > he's what I call

> > a brahman. "

> >

> > blessings

> >

> > Renu

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Sre_eram "

> > <sreeram64@> wrote:

> > >

> > > It appears that our friend Mr. Prakash Trivedi -purported to

be an

> > > acclaimed person with tons of astro secrets has suddently

> > > disappeared or simply not interested to share his

knowledgebase

> > with

> > > others.

> > >

> > > It is over a week that he has posted anything in the forum.

While

> > > we wait another fortnight, before we wrap up claims of Mr.

Prakash

> > > Trivedi, let me caution the members here that there are many

> > > instances of astrologers and spiritual gurus getting accolades

in

> > > West who are new to this subject, consider everything said to

be

> > > true....for they have very open mind, lack of knowledgebase on

> > > sanskrit, which it would take ages for a westerner to learn

for

> > this

> > > Gods Language has its basis in the daily living and not so

easy to

> > > grasp the language living in USA.

> > >

> > > On the subject of Shastiamsa, Mr. Prakash Trivedi has jumped

the

> > > subject, reflects his immaturity. He got confused with Planet

> > > degrees and amsa. {Refer his response to Sreenadh's query on

> > Signs+

> > > amsa or Planets+amsa..}.

> > >

> > > I happened to browse the websites owned and maintained by Mr.

> > > Prakash Trivedi {my guess ....going by the content

> > > therein...correct me if my judgement is wrong}, where he

mentions

> > > his gothra and great lineage. He is NOT aware that many

other

> > > Indians also have great lineage and legacy to boast off...but

in

> > > terms of real contribution....they stand at ground zero or

below

> > > that.

> > >

> > > Political Example: Mahatma Gandhi ideals are represented by

Ms.

> > > Sonia Gandhi at the recently held UN function, who does NOT

> > > know " I " in India's founding fatherMahatma Gandhi. Moreover,

she

> > > has ABSOLUTELY NO relation with founding father even to the

remote

> > > logics, except for the surname.

> > > Infact this " surname transfer " happened with Mrs. Indira

Gandhi,

> > for

> > > certain reasons - beyond the subject purview of this group.

> > >

> > > Unless one has some sound contributions to the knowledge or

> > society,

> > > one should stop taking credit of one's lineage.

> > >

> > > Coming to the issue of a member writing for an apology on -

> > brahmin

> > > slurs..etc., let us not forget that it each community is

> > > responsible for current state of affairs. " The past cast

shadows

> > > present " . " Present lives in the shadows of future " . Unless

we

> > > breakaway, the rules will remain.

> > >

> > > Even today Germany has to bear the negativism assigned by a

single

> > > name of Adolf Hitler. Similarly, the brahmins proclaiming to

be

> > > guardians of secret knowledge, could not guard the sacred

> > > nadis,...they are lost forever. Who are we to blame now..??

Had

> > > the knowledge shared across the community, the possibility of

its

> > > regaining its past glory are more.

> > >

> > > It is the " gunas " which differentiates or makes a person

brahmin.

> > > The so called " Nairs " in this group have been spreading

knowledge,

> > > much better than self proclaimed " Guru " like Mr. Prakash

Trivedi

> > who

> > > is very proud of being a brahim of Bharadwaj Gothra. This

trivedi

> > > charges US $$ & yearns to patent his knowledge - if one were

to

> > > delve into his psychic - given in his earlier mail on Jupiter

> > dasha

> > > & patenting.....- An irrelevant statement by him...linking

> > Jupiter

> > > dasha, fame & patenting.....= what a contrast by this brahmin -

 

> > who

> > > appears to be hardcore materialistic, could be example of

current

> > > generation {excuse me of this general statement}...etc..

> > >

> > > The main controversies of Astrology in general-

> > > a) Which event of birth process -is the time of epoch

{conception,

> > > umblical cord cutting, cry of the newborn..etc.}

> > >

> > > b) Vargas or Divisional Charts { different school of thoughts}

> > > c) Aspects - traditional parashara and jamini, {many kichidi

> > > techniques available where mix of traditions is seen as a

value

> > and

> > > practised with aplomb !! }

> > > d) Techniques of applying Ashtakvarga

> > > e) Exaltation, Debilitation in birth chart & amsa positions....

> > > f) Retrograde exaltation & debilitation.....

> > > g) Combustion of planets....Jupiter & Saturn combustion or

Mercury

> > > combustion...{differences of opinion...}

> > >

> > > many such more....in each case, one difference on a

> > subject...leads

> > > to many variations in level 2..3...etc..

> > >

> > > So it is essential what is given in astro classics first,then

> > > members can frame their own opinions accordingly.

> > >

> > > Conclusion:

> > > Let us wait for another 15 days, hoping Mr. Prakash Trivedi

comes

> > up

> > > with his " gems " before we write him off with dignity and

proceed

> > > with our agenda.

> > >

> > > with regards,

> > > sreeram srinivas

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Mr. Sreeram, A mail well written. The various conflicting issues that are there need to be understood. As you mentioned what do various classical works say about them? In what context? How do we interpret them?

I know of a horoscope where Mars is combust within 6' (mins of arc). Mars is exalted and has Digbala. Exalted Jupiter is aspecting this combination. Mars is lagnalord - which is evident based on above data. How to interpret such a case? These are the types of questions we must be able to face with confidence, rather than explain the events after they occur..

Regards,udupa On 10/7/07, Sre_eram <sreeram64 wrote:

 

 

 

 

It appears that our friend Mr. Prakash Trivedi -purported to be an

acclaimed person with tons of astro secrets has suddently

disappeared or simply not interested to share his knowledgebase with

others.

 

It is over a week that he has posted anything in the forum. While

we wait another fortnight, before we wrap up claims of Mr. Prakash

Trivedi, let me caution the members here that there are many

instances of astrologers and spiritual gurus getting accolades in

West who are new to this subject, consider everything said to be

true....for they have very open mind, lack of knowledgebase on

sanskrit, which it would take ages for a westerner to learn for this

Gods Language has its basis in the daily living and not so easy to

grasp the language living in USA.

 

On the subject of Shastiamsa, Mr. Prakash Trivedi has jumped the

subject, reflects his immaturity. He got confused with Planet

degrees and amsa. {Refer his response to Sreenadh's query on Signs+

amsa or Planets+amsa..}.

 

I happened to browse the websites owned and maintained by Mr.

Prakash Trivedi {my guess ....going by the content

therein...correct me if my judgement is wrong}, where he mentions

his gothra and great lineage. He is NOT aware that many other

Indians also have great lineage and legacy to boast off...but in

terms of real contribution....they stand at ground zero or below

that.

 

Political Example: Mahatma Gandhi ideals are represented by Ms.

Sonia Gandhi at the recently held UN function, who does NOT

know " I " in India's founding fatherMahatma Gandhi. Moreover, she

has ABSOLUTELY NO relation with founding father even to the remote

logics, except for the surname.

Infact this " surname transfer " happened with Mrs. Indira Gandhi, for

certain reasons - beyond the subject purview of this group.

 

Unless one has some sound contributions to the knowledge or society,

one should stop taking credit of one's lineage.

 

Coming to the issue of a member writing for an apology on - brahmin

slurs..etc., let us not forget that it each community is

responsible for current state of affairs. " The past cast shadows

present " . " Present lives in the shadows of future " . Unless we

breakaway, the rules will remain.

 

Even today Germany has to bear the negativism assigned by a single

name of Adolf Hitler. Similarly, the brahmins proclaiming to be

guardians of secret knowledge, could not guard the sacred

nadis,...they are lost forever. Who are we to blame now..?? Had

the knowledge shared across the community, the possibility of its

regaining its past glory are more.

 

It is the " gunas " which differentiates or makes a person brahmin.

The so called " Nairs " in this group have been spreading knowledge,

much better than self proclaimed " Guru " like Mr. Prakash Trivedi who

is very proud of being a brahim of Bharadwaj Gothra. This trivedi

charges US $$ & yearns to patent his knowledge - if one were to

delve into his psychic - given in his earlier mail on Jupiter dasha

& patenting.....- An irrelevant statement by him...linking Jupiter

dasha, fame & patenting.....= what a contrast by this brahmin - who

appears to be hardcore materialistic, could be example of current

generation {excuse me of this general statement}...etc..

 

The main controversies of Astrology in general-

a) Which event of birth process -is the time of epoch {conception,

umblical cord cutting, cry of the newborn..etc.}

 

b) Vargas or Divisional Charts { different school of thoughts}

c) Aspects - traditional parashara and jamini, {many kichidi

techniques available where mix of traditions is seen as a value and

practised with aplomb !! }

d) Techniques of applying Ashtakvarga

e) Exaltation, Debilitation in birth chart & amsa positions....

f) Retrograde exaltation & debilitation.....

g) Combustion of planets....Jupiter & Saturn combustion or Mercury

combustion...{differences of opinion...}

 

many such more....in each case, one difference on a subject...leads

to many variations in level 2..3...etc..

 

So it is essential what is given in astro classics first,then

members can frame their own opinions accordingly.

 

Conclusion:

Let us wait for another 15 days, hoping Mr. Prakash Trivedi comes up

with his " gems " before we write him off with dignity and proceed

with our agenda.

 

with regards,

sreeram srinivas

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