Lagna lord in 9th House

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Lagna lord in 9th House

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If lagna lord is in 9th, the native would be lucky and dear to

people. He will be a devotee of God Vishnu. He would an efficient individual,

efficient especially in speech and oratory. With wife, children and good amount

of wealth (essentials for a good worldly life) he will lead a good life. He

will have many respectable relatives. He will do many good deeds and would be a

righteous individual. It could be said that he is an individual with `Satwa

Guna', meaning he will have the ability to keep the same balanced state of mind

both in happiness and sadness. Bestowed with many good qualities, he will excel

as a popular and radiant individual. [Note that father is NOT mentioned in any

of the above results]

If lagna lord is in 9th, the native would be lucky and dear

to people. He will be a devotee of God Vishnu. He would an efficient

individual, efficient especially in speech and oratory. With wife, children and

good amount of wealth (essentials for a good worldly life) he will lead a good

life.

- Parasara Hora

Since 9th is the house signifying luck it is natural to say that

the native would be lucky, and a devotee of god. But why God Vishnu? There is

specific reason for this derivation. The trines signify the trinity. Lagna

signifies Brahma; 9th Vishnu; 5th Siva. This derivation primarily comes from

the zodiac itself. In the Zodiac Aries being the first sign signifies creation

and thus Brahma; 5th being Leo, the house of Sun, signifies Siva, 9th being the

Sagittarius, the house of Jupiter, signifies Vishnu. There is a saying

`Jeevastu Narayana', meaning `Jupiter signifies Narayana (God Vishnu floating

in the primordial ocean which caused the creation of the universe). Thus 9th

signifies god Vishnu and that is why it is derived that lagna lord in 9th will

make the native a devotee of God Vishnu. Thus we get a cute rule -

Rule 8: The significance of all the 12 houses are related to

the 12 signs from Aries onwards as well. Aries could signify creation, so as

lagna; Taurus could signify food so as 2nd and so on. Much significance that

gets associated to the houses is derived in this way. This understanding can be

used while deriving results using `House Base' system as well.

Parasara tells us that if lagna lord is in 9th he would be an

efficient individual - why? Note that 9th is a house that is in the visible

part of zodiac. (1 to 7 = Invisible or hidden half; 7 to 12 = visible or

popular half). Thus the qualities of the native would be well visible to the

public; he is lucky, spiritual, and righteous. All these help him in being an

efficient and successful individual. But this logic does not help us in

clarifying the derivation - he would be an efficient individual, efficient

especially in speech and oratory. What speech has to do with 9th? First it may

seem that - no, there is no relation.

But note that Parasara is simply extending the previous rule stated. 9th Sign

of zodiac is Sagittarius owned by Jupiter, and all the qualities such as

Speech, efficiency in speech, interest in telling spiritual and puranic

stories, good knowledge are all related to Jupiter itself. Thus it is quite

natural to derive the result `the native would be efficient especially in

speech and oratory'. This ability of the native will persist even to his old

age, as indicated by the fact that 9th is 8th (longevity) from 2nd house

(speech). Lagna lord in 9th gives beneficial results to 9th, causing longevity

of speech, or in other words, the ability to amaze people with wonderful

knowledge bits and excellent speaking abilities even in old age. Why it is said

that he would live a good life with wife, children and wealth? Note that these

are the prime conditions for being a lucky person in worldly life. As a

balanced, efficient, lucky individual he is sure to have the prime necessities

for worldly happiness - which happens to be `wife, children and wealth'. Also

note that 9th is 5th from 5th, and in essence LL in 9th bestows good results

for 5th indicating - beneficial results for children (5th house). Similarly 9th

is 3rd, an upachaya (growth and well being) house from 7th. Thus LL in 9th

gives beneficial results to 9th, indicating growth and well-being of 7th (wife)

as well. LL in 9th aspects 3rd house, which is 2nd from 2nd (a rule discussed

earlier) and thus provides good results for 2nd house as well, providing good

wealth. Thus in short, it turns out that - `wealth, wife and children' is a

well thought-out derivation, supported by logic in many ways.

If lagna lord is in 9th, the native will have many

respectable relatives. He will do many good deeds (He would a righteous

individual); keep the same balanced state of mind both in happiness and sadness

(He is an individual with `Satwa Guna') ; will have many good qualities. He

will excel as a popular and radiant individual.

- Meenaraja Hora

Why many respectable relatives - who are they? If Meenaraja

wanted to indicate the native will have a good father, it would have been easy

to understand, since 9th signifies father. But he says - `many respectable

relatives'. Of course respectability is a quality of 9th house and therefore no

doubt on that. A good respectable father is also a possibility. What about

other relatives - intended? From the discussion of 3rd house, we already know

that -

In male horoscope, 9th house can indicate - wife's sister,

brother's wife, sister's husband and wife's brother.

In female horoscope, 9th house can indicate - husband's brother,

sister's husband, brother's wife, husband's sister.

Son's son and daughter, Daughter's son and daughter, Mother's

brother (the traditional husband as per some sects) are also indicated by 9th

house itself.

It is due to all these reasons that Meenaraja resorted to the

statement, `LL in 9th (bestows good results for 9th and therefore) indicate

having many respectable relatives to the native'.

Meenaraja tells us that `the native will keep his equally

balanced state of mind in happiness and sadness' - why? It is because he is a

spiritual individual. Spiritual awareness helps the native to achieve the same

without much effort. In a calm mind the divine reflects and the beneficial

results follow. The remaining derivations of Meenaraja are also easy to

understand in this context.

Because we are discussing 9th house, there is unique point to

note. Why 9th house signify father? If 4th is mother (as indicated by the

ownership of Moon in Cancer, 4th sign from Aries), then the natural thing was

to say that 10th signify father, since the same is 7th from 4th as well. But

all the medieval texts, tell us that - father is signified by 9th house. Why?

Note that 9th indicate `Mother's mother's brother - the traditional husband as

per customs followed by several sects'. The Vedic tradition NEVER supported

such a system - then how come astrological texts attribute the significance of

father to 9th house instead of 10th? It would be interesting to note the

following points in this context.

* Only books of Jain (Garga hora etc) and South Indian tradition

attribute 9th house to father. [i am yet to see any other ancient Rishi hora

sloka (other than Garga Hora sloka) which attribute the significance of

`father' to 9th house. Of course astrology did not originate in South India but

in the banks of `Saraswati River'. It is the ancient Jain siddhas who spread it

through out India, especially in south India]

* All ancient text agree on the fact that 9th house signifies

Guru.

* While discussing 4th house (and in many other places) Parasara

indicated that father is signified by 10th house rather than 9th.

* In many traditions (including non-vedic and vedic; Agama and

Nigama) father was the first Guru of the native, especially related to

Upanayana etc. Many texts say that - Guru IS father, equating both of them,

possibly because Upanayana (providing sacred thread) is considered as the

second birth of the native.

I think -

1) Emphasis with Jain and South indian traditions attribute the

significance of father to 9th indicate that the tradition of marrying `mother's

brother' was very common among both of them.

2) This points to the agama (non-vedic) origin of astrology as

well. Even Mihira tells us that `Astrology is an Agama sastra' emphasizing its

non-vedic nature. But Mihira was so authentic and popular, that from the period

of Mihira onwards considering 9th as father got accepted by almost all the followers

of astrology (south indian and north indian; non-vedic and vedic; Jain and

Hindu) alike. Note that currently

there is almost no text available (except BPHS) that tells us that - 10th house

signifies father. It is cute fact to note.

 

3) Texts like Parasara hora (BC 1400) could be an effort to mix

the Agama system of astrology (some streams of which like the Jains, followed

customs like marrying `mother's brother') with the other streams (which never

followed such a custom). This could be a controversial statement. But if it is

so, this also points to the fact why texts like BPHS are popular in north,

while south instead depends on older Rishi horas (like Skanda hora, Garga hora

etc) and the text of Mihira who accepts that astrology is an Agama sastra

(Knowledge of Tantric origin).

4) It is also possible that the above statement is wrong. It is

possible that except Jains (Garga Hora) no other Rishi horas followed the

system of ascribing the significance of father to 9th house (we need to study

the available quotes). It is possible that any such indications we may find in

BPHS are later interpolations. If the above statements are true we would have

to resort to the statement "No Rishi Hora except Garga Hora attributes the

significance of father to 9th house. As per them father is signified by 10th

house". This is a subject with good scope for astrological research. Research

and come out with ancient quotes that support your arguments.

5) Essentially thus the fact springs up that the Jain contribution

to the development of astrology in India - is far more than what we currently

ascribe them to. Similarly the contribution of Vedic tradition and literature

to the development of Nirayana astrology is far less than what we ascribe them

to. Possibly ancient indian astrology is a branch of science developed by the

Asura Tantric culture of Harappa (which covered many other parts of the world

such as Iran, Assyria etc as well) and spread throughout India mostly through

the Jain Siddhas. That was why it was still Agama sastra (Tantric knowledge

branch) even at the period of Mihira (i.e. AD 550). Note that even Aryabhata

was a Jain. Since Sage Garga - a Jain sage - who wrote Garga Hora lived around

BC 1400, and was a contemporary of Skanda (the originator of Nirayana

astrological knowledge who wrote Skanda Hora), it turns out that the Jain

tradition is as old as Vedic tradition. The Saiva Agama tradition existed prior

to that even in the Harappan period. So the flow of this eternal knowledge

branch known as Nirayana Astrology in ancient India would be from Saiva Agama

tradition to Jain Tradition to South India through the sea shore (Gujarat and

Orissa). And then by the period of Mihira getting accepted by the whole of

India - mixing both Agamic Nirayana Zodiacal astrology and Vedic Tropical

Astrology. Mutual interactions and give and take must have happened in between

as well - but it is fair to say that till the period of Mihira (AD 550),

Nirayana zodiacal Astrology and Sayana Tropical

astrology were treated separately in India - the first considered as

Agamic and the second as Vedic (Nigamic). The non-vedic nature of astrology is

also evident from the fact that, astrology texts don't even mention the name of Lagatha or his student

Suchi, who wrote the text `Vedanga Jyotisha' in

BC1400, a text dealing with astronomy and calendar system known to and

followed by vedic tradition. Thus possibly all the 18 sages mentioned by

astrological classics were outside vedic tradition - no wonder the hindu

brahmin fanatics prior to the period of Mihira never tried to save those

astrological texts - from extinction. The other stalwart of the same era,

Aryabhata (AD 522) was a follower of Jain religion. It should be said that -

together they saved this knowledge of Nirayana astrology from complete

extinction.

We have drifted away a bit during this discussion, from our

major subject that is `Lagna lord in

various house' but still I think it is worth it. Now let us go back and

continue our study -

The 9th house

signifies things such as - luck, guru, vishnu, purana, story telling, father,

meditation, kind donations, righteous deeds, devotion etc. Thus the placement

of lagna lord in 9th generates special importance to the derivations related to

the same.

- by Sreenadh

(sreesog)

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Love,

Sreenadh