Guest guest Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Dear sree nadh ji and group. Why parasara say lagna lord in 7th is bad .general assumption is lagna lord enhance a house where its placed. I got a thought in my mind .Please see kalapurush chart. Lagna is aries and lord in mars and place mars in each houses and see the effects. So we can find mars debilated in 4th ,bad in 6th as enemy house ,not comfortable in 7th and 8th is his own house ,9th is a frnds house 10th is exaltation house ,12th again a frnds house but watery so lil not comfortable. i like to see every ones thoughts and in puts. Also i think same can be used for other placements of 2nd lord in first house or 2nd house .This is only a pointer but not an ultimatum . As we all know the houses own or frnds or enmy and aspects always change it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Dear Sunil ji, Good idea in tune with the sages. Yes, that is an accepted methodology for deriving results. Good to see that innovative insights are coming up! Love, Sreenadh , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > Dear sree nadh ji and group. > > Why parasara say lagna lord in 7th is bad .general assumption is lagna > lord enhance a house where its placed. > > I got a thought in my mind .Please see kalapurush chart. > > Lagna is aries and lord in mars and place mars in each houses and see > the effects. > > So we can find mars debilated in 4th ,bad in 6th as enemy house ,not > comfortable in 7th and 8th is his own house ,9th is a frnds house 10th > is exaltation house ,12th again a frnds house but watery so lil not > comfortable. > > i like to see every ones thoughts and in puts. > > Also i think same can be used for other placements of 2nd lord in first > house or 2nd house .This is only a pointer but not an ultimatum . > > As we all know the houses own or frnds or enmy and aspects always > change it > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Dear Sunil ji, Can you please elaborate your idea (regarding Kalpurusha Chart), and show us how it applies to " Langa lord in various houses " for all the 12 houses - in bit more detail? It is a worthy innovative tradition and scripture supported idea it seems. Love, Sreenadh , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Sunil ji, > Good idea in tune with the sages. Yes, that is an accepted > methodology for deriving results. Good to see that innovative > insights are coming up! > Love, > Sreenadh > > , " sunil nair " > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear sree nadh ji and group. > > > > Why parasara say lagna lord in 7th is bad .general assumption is > lagna > > lord enhance a house where its placed. > > > > I got a thought in my mind .Please see kalapurush chart. > > > > Lagna is aries and lord in mars and place mars in each houses and > see > > the effects. > > > > So we can find mars debilated in 4th ,bad in 6th as enemy > house ,not > > comfortable in 7th and 8th is his own house ,9th is a frnds house > 10th > > is exaltation house ,12th again a frnds house but watery so lil not > > comfortable. > > > > i like to see every ones thoughts and in puts. > > > > Also i think same can be used for other placements of 2nd lord in > first > > house or 2nd house .This is only a pointer but not an ultimatum . > > > > As we all know the houses own or frnds or enmy and aspects always > > change it > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Hare ramakrishna, dear sreenadh ji and grp. sreenadh ji ,its simple i think its known to all people who deals astrology in traditional way . As natural chart is kaala purusha chart ,if we equate the mars the lord of lagna of aries the first house in kalapurusha and apply how the mars behaves in all houses ,from first house to 12th house .What we shud keep in mind is mars is an agni tatwa planet and he will be more comfortable in agneya rasis and airy rasi and earthy rasi and will be bad in watery rasis . If mars in first house its a raja yoga ,he will be valiant ,will hav fame prosperity and will mass wealth tru self effort . But mars also 8th lord ,so may hav some bad qualities attached to this place of any lagna lord in lagna ,but lagna lord is both kendra and trikona lord and in lagna is a sort of kendra trikonadhipathy yoga.So if lagna lord in lagna and if afflicted can be show a drastic reduction in raja yogas. Now if we see lagna lord in 2nd house and treat like mars in 2nd house what is happening ,mars in 2nd is not a desired combination which amounts to kuja dosha according to dictums .But he will earn money by any means as 2nd denotes money ,and natural 2nd house is bhoomi tatwa rasi so firey planets can stand there .But he will talk and a sort of ability in winning all with speach but he may get enmity from others some times as his words may not be always comforting to others. 3rd house placement of lagna lord if we equate mars in gemini --its a airy rasi ,so may be bad for brothers but will be valorous ,earn money and will be very rich 4th house here i hav my own doubts as its mars debilation sign ,so lagna lord in 4th may be a person who will be obeying son of mother till he gets married and being a debilation sign and watery rasi he will hav to struggle very hard and then he will hav all riches as a natural cancellation of debilation happened to mars there .As lord is moon and for cancellation of debilations we take planets in kendra from moon ,so moon himself is dispositor here ,so a natural cancellation happens here. 5th house --leo --a royal sign and firy sign --mars more violent here --a house of mental faculties and children -mars is karaka for cuts and operations also ,so here lagna lord may giv a angry man and chances of loosing first kid as first kid is 5th house. 6th house --virgo --a natual 6th house --house of stomach decease and enmies and hard work .so such persons with lagna lord in 6th may be having all this traits .They will supprss enmies ,but the budha gets exalted here ,enmy of mars ,so even if he suppress enmies they will come back if get a chance ,this ppl will good docotrs and healers and will be hard working in nature ,will hav problem in stomach and may hav debts . 7th house --its natural libra sign --a balnced sign but airy in nature --so since if lagna lord there the expectation may be high and imaginative (as airy sign --natural) and will be more violent in nature towars thing specified by 7th house like marriage and yatra ,and even partner ships ,so will be fighting in nature will all this ppl and will hav to move and travel more for getting things done matter s specified by 7th house .But will hav good profession as its 10th from 10th house . 8th house --a dustana --here lagna lord in showing hidden tendencies in life /its also a water sign -a mystic sign also --one of the mokhsa trikona also .So these matters will be more prominet here .And lagna lord mars in 8th is more pronounced as 8th lord here.So longivity factor will be enhanced ,but the parners longitity is doubt full . 9th house ---a firy sign ---a warring sign --and so it may enhance luck but it can giv disputes or differrence of opinion with father and also being in 7th from 3rd house may be some times affect the brothers or they may be a cause of expenditure for him .here mars is also 8th lord .Being 3rd from 7th house its bad for wifes younger ones. 10th house --its natural 10t house which is capricon a mixed sign --mars has dig bala here --a best placement for mars -so he can come up in life with self efforts and jobs with punishable to others in nature like military or police is highly likely but being 7th from 4th house of family and 4th from 7th house marriage it may some times affect marriage. 11th house--11th house all planets are comfortable here .-but being in 7th from 5th house --it may be bad for kids and he may not support the kids in proper sense and being a kamastana and in tringle from 7th --it may affect the quality of married life also --its also airy sign .And natural badhaka sign for aries sign . 12th house --a watery rasi ,end of the rasis,a pralaya rasi but rasi of mars frnd .being a lose to lagna house -it shows he is responsible for rise and fall of the native .he will hav loses and being a house which shows from away from home it may also show of settling away from birth place and investments and expenses shud be always done with maximum care though it may giv a habbit of spending for bad things and not for good things.12th being trikon from 4th house it may affect happiness in life. this is some what i done with some guesswork ,the house placement and aspects will change the results. Invite all types of comments and be frank in your discussions. regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah. , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji,> Can you please elaborate your idea (regarding Kalpurusha Chart), and> show us how it applies to "Langa lord in various houses" for all the> 12 houses - in bit more detail? > It is a worthy innovative tradition and scripture supported idea it> seems.> Love,> Sreenadh> > , "Sreenadh"> sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sunil ji,> > Good idea in tune with the sages. Yes, that is an accepted > > methodology for deriving results. Good to see that innovative > > insights are coming up! > > Love,> > Sreenadh > > > > , "sunil nair" > > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear sree nadh ji and group.> > > > > > Why parasara say lagna lord in 7th is bad .general assumption is > > lagna> > > lord enhance a house where its placed.> > > > > > I got a thought in my mind .Please see kalapurush chart.> > > > > > Lagna is aries and lord in mars and place mars in each houses and > > see> > > the effects.> > > > > > So we can find mars debilated in 4th ,bad in 6th as enemy > > house ,not> > > comfortable in 7th and 8th is his own house ,9th is a frnds house > > 10th> > > is exaltation house ,12th again a frnds house but watery so lil not> > > comfortable.> > > > > > i like to see every ones thoughts and in puts.> > > > > > Also i think same can be used for other placements of 2nd lord in > > first> > > house or 2nd house .This is only a pointer but not an ultimatum .> > > > > > As we all know the houses own or frnds or enmy and aspects always> > > change it> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Dear Sunil ji, Well written! I invite all others to have a debate on this unique concept presented by Sunil ji. Love, Sreenadh , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > Hare ramakrishna, > > dear sreenadh ji and grp. > > sreenadh ji ,its simple i think its known to all > people who deals astrology in traditional way . > > As natural chart is kaala purusha chart ,if we equate the mars the > lord of lagna of aries the first house in kalapurusha and apply how the > mars behaves in all houses ,from first house to 12th house .What we shud > keep in mind is mars is an agni tatwa planet and he will be more > comfortable in agneya rasis and airy rasi and earthy rasi and will be > bad in watery rasis . > > If mars in first house its a raja yoga ,he will be valiant ,will hav > fame prosperity and will mass wealth tru self effort . > > But mars also 8th lord ,so may hav some bad qualities attached to this > place of any lagna lord in lagna ,but lagna lord is both kendra and > trikona lord and in lagna is a sort of kendra trikonadhipathy yoga.So if > lagna lord in lagna and if afflicted can be show a drastic reduction in > raja yogas. > > Now if we see lagna lord in 2nd house and treat like mars in 2nd house > what is happening ,mars in 2nd is not a desired combination which > amounts to kuja dosha according to dictums .But he will earn money by > any means as 2nd denotes money ,and natural 2nd house is bhoomi tatwa > rasi so firey planets can stand there .But he will talk and a sort of > ability in winning all with speach but he may get enmity from others > some times as his words may not be always comforting to others. > > 3rd house placement of lagna lord if we equate mars in gemini --its a > airy rasi ,so may be bad for brothers but will be valorous ,earn money > and will be very rich > > 4th house here i hav my own doubts as its mars debilation sign ,so lagna > lord in 4th may be a person who will be obeying son of mother till he > gets married and being a debilation sign and watery rasi he will hav to > struggle very hard and then he will hav all riches as a natural > cancellation of debilation happened to mars there .As lord is moon and > for cancellation of debilations we take planets in kendra from moon ,so > moon himself is dispositor here ,so a natural cancellation happens here. > > 5th house --leo --a royal sign and firy sign --mars more violent here > --a house of mental faculties and children -mars is karaka for cuts and > operations also ,so here lagna lord may giv a angry man and chances of > loosing first kid as first kid is 5th house. > > 6th house --virgo --a natual 6th house --house of stomach decease and > enmies and hard work .so such persons with lagna lord in 6th may be > having all this traits .They will supprss enmies ,but the budha gets > exalted here ,enmy of mars ,so even if he suppress enmies they will come > back if get a chance ,this ppl will good docotrs and healers and will be > hard working in nature ,will hav problem in stomach and may hav debts . > > 7th house --its natural libra sign --a balnced sign but airy in nature > --so since if lagna lord there the expectation may be high and > imaginative (as airy sign --natural) and will be more violent in nature > towars thing specified by 7th house like marriage and yatra ,and even > partner ships ,so will be fighting in nature will all this ppl and will > hav to move and travel more for getting things done matter s specified > by 7th house .But will hav good profession as its 10th from 10th house . > > 8th house --a dustana --here lagna lord in showing hidden tendencies in > life /its also a water sign -a mystic sign also --one of the mokhsa > trikona also .So these matters will be more prominet here .And lagna > lord mars in 8th is more pronounced as 8th lord here.So longivity factor > will be enhanced ,but the parners longitity is doubt full . > > 9th house ---a firy sign ---a warring sign --and so it may enhance luck > but it can giv disputes or differrence of opinion with father and also > being in 7th from 3rd house may be some times affect the brothers or > they may be a cause of expenditure for him .here mars is also 8th lord > .Being 3rd from 7th house its bad for wifes younger ones. > > 10th house --its natural 10t house which is capricon a mixed sign -- mars > has dig bala here --a best placement for mars -so he can come up in life > with self efforts and jobs with punishable to others in nature like > military or police is highly likely but being 7th from 4th house of > family and 4th from 7th house marriage it may some times affect > marriage. > > 11th house--11th house all planets are comfortable here .-but being in > 7th from 5th house --it may be bad for kids and he may not support the > kids in proper sense and being a kamastana and in tringle from 7th - -it > may affect the quality of married life also --its also airy sign .And > natural badhaka sign for aries sign . > > 12th house --a watery rasi ,end of the rasis,a pralaya rasi but rasi of > mars frnd .being a lose to lagna house -it shows he is responsible for > rise and fall of the native .he will hav loses and being a house which > shows from away from home it may also show of settling away from birth > place and investments and expenses shud be always done with maximum care > though it may giv a habbit of spending for bad things and not for good > things.12th being trikon from 4th house it may affect happiness in life. > > this is some what i done with some guesswork ,the house placement and > aspects will change the results. > > Invite all types of comments and be frank in your discussions. > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil ji, > > Can you please elaborate your idea (regarding Kalpurusha Chart), and > > show us how it applies to " Langa lord in various houses " for all the > > 12 houses - in bit more detail? > > It is a worthy innovative tradition and scripture supported idea it > > seems. > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji, > > > Good idea in tune with the sages. Yes, that is an accepted > > > methodology for deriving results. Good to see that innovative > > > insights are coming up! > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear sree nadh ji and group. > > > > > > > > Why parasara say lagna lord in 7th is bad .general assumption is > > > lagna > > > > lord enhance a house where its placed. > > > > > > > > I got a thought in my mind .Please see kalapurush chart. > > > > > > > > Lagna is aries and lord in mars and place mars in each houses and > > > see > > > > the effects. > > > > > > > > So we can find mars debilated in 4th ,bad in 6th as enemy > > > house ,not > > > > comfortable in 7th and 8th is his own house ,9th is a frnds house > > > 10th > > > > is exaltation house ,12th again a frnds house but watery so lil > not > > > > comfortable. > > > > > > > > i like to see every ones thoughts and in puts. > > > > > > > > Also i think same can be used for other placements of 2nd lord in > > > first > > > > house or 2nd house .This is only a pointer but not an ultimatum . > > > > > > > > As we all know the houses own or frnds or enmy and aspects always > > > > change it > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Hare ramakrishna, dear sree nadh ji , Thanks .I am waiting the analytical replies and queries and analysis from all esteemed memebrs.Thesis, anti thesis and sinthesis. regrds sunil nair. om shreem mahalaxmai namah. , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji,> Well written! I invite all others to have a debate on this unique > concept presented by Sunil ji. > Love,> Sreenadh> > , "sunil nair" > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > > > Hare ramakrishna,> > > > dear sreenadh ji and grp.> > > > sreenadh ji ,its simple i think its known to all> > people who deals astrology in traditional way .> > > > As natural chart is kaala purusha chart ,if we equate the mars > the> > lord of lagna of aries the first house in kalapurusha and apply how > the> > mars behaves in all houses ,from first house to 12th house .What we > shud> > keep in mind is mars is an agni tatwa planet and he will be more> > comfortable in agneya rasis and airy rasi and earthy rasi and will > be> > bad in watery rasis .> > > > If mars in first house its a raja yoga ,he will be valiant ,will hav> > fame prosperity and will mass wealth tru self effort .> > > > But mars also 8th lord ,so may hav some bad qualities attached to > this> > place of any lagna lord in lagna ,but lagna lord is both kendra and> > trikona lord and in lagna is a sort of kendra trikonadhipathy > yoga.So if> > lagna lord in lagna and if afflicted can be show a drastic > reduction in> > raja yogas.> > > > Now if we see lagna lord in 2nd house and treat like mars in 2nd > house> > what is happening ,mars in 2nd is not a desired combination which> > amounts to kuja dosha according to dictums .But he will earn money > by> > any means as 2nd denotes money ,and natural 2nd house is bhoomi > tatwa> > rasi so firey planets can stand there .But he will talk and a sort > of> > ability in winning all with speach but he may get enmity from others> > some times as his words may not be always comforting to others.> > > > 3rd house placement of lagna lord if we equate mars in gemini --its > a> > airy rasi ,so may be bad for brothers but will be valorous ,earn > money> > and will be very rich> > > > 4th house here i hav my own doubts as its mars debilation sign ,so > lagna> > lord in 4th may be a person who will be obeying son of mother till > he> > gets married and being a debilation sign and watery rasi he will > hav to> > struggle very hard and then he will hav all riches as a natural> > cancellation of debilation happened to mars there .As lord is moon > and> > for cancellation of debilations we take planets in kendra from > moon ,so> > moon himself is dispositor here ,so a natural cancellation happens > here.> > > > 5th house --leo --a royal sign and firy sign --mars more violent > here> > --a house of mental faculties and children -mars is karaka for cuts > and> > operations also ,so here lagna lord may giv a angry man and chances > of> > loosing first kid as first kid is 5th house.> > > > 6th house --virgo --a natual 6th house --house of stomach decease > and> > enmies and hard work .so such persons with lagna lord in 6th may be> > having all this traits .They will supprss enmies ,but the budha gets> > exalted here ,enmy of mars ,so even if he suppress enmies they will > come> > back if get a chance ,this ppl will good docotrs and healers and > will be> > hard working in nature ,will hav problem in stomach and may hav > debts .> > > > 7th house --its natural libra sign --a balnced sign but airy in > nature> > --so since if lagna lord there the expectation may be high and> > imaginative (as airy sign --natural) and will be more violent in > nature> > towars thing specified by 7th house like marriage and yatra ,and > even> > partner ships ,so will be fighting in nature will all this ppl and > will> > hav to move and travel more for getting things done matter s > specified> > by 7th house .But will hav good profession as its 10th from 10th > house .> > > > 8th house --a dustana --here lagna lord in showing hidden > tendencies in> > life /its also a water sign -a mystic sign also --one of the mokhsa> > trikona also .So these matters will be more prominet here .And lagna> > lord mars in 8th is more pronounced as 8th lord here.So longivity > factor> > will be enhanced ,but the parners longitity is doubt full .> > > > 9th house ---a firy sign ---a warring sign --and so it may enhance > luck> > but it can giv disputes or differrence of opinion with father and > also> > being in 7th from 3rd house may be some times affect the brothers or> > they may be a cause of expenditure for him .here mars is also 8th > lord> > .Being 3rd from 7th house its bad for wifes younger ones.> > > > 10th house --its natural 10t house which is capricon a mixed sign --> mars> > has dig bala here --a best placement for mars -so he can come up in > life> > with self efforts and jobs with punishable to others in nature like> > military or police is highly likely but being 7th from 4th house of> > family and 4th from 7th house marriage it may some times affect> > marriage.> > > > 11th house--11th house all planets are comfortable here .-but being > in> > 7th from 5th house --it may be bad for kids and he may not support > the> > kids in proper sense and being a kamastana and in tringle from 7th -> -it> > may affect the quality of married life also --its also airy > sign .And> > natural badhaka sign for aries sign .> > > > 12th house --a watery rasi ,end of the rasis,a pralaya rasi but > rasi of> > mars frnd .being a lose to lagna house -it shows he is responsible > for> > rise and fall of the native .he will hav loses and being a house > which> > shows from away from home it may also show of settling away from > birth> > place and investments and expenses shud be always done with maximum > care> > though it may giv a habbit of spending for bad things and not for > good> > things.12th being trikon from 4th house it may affect happiness in > life.> > > > this is some what i done with some guesswork ,the house placement > and> > aspects will change the results.> > > > Invite all types of comments and be frank in your discussions.> > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > > > > > > > > > > > , "Sreenadh"> > <sreesog@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sunil ji,> > > Can you please elaborate your idea (regarding Kalpurusha Chart), > and> > > show us how it applies to "Langa lord in various houses" for all > the> > > 12 houses - in bit more detail?> > > It is a worthy innovative tradition and scripture supported idea > it> > > seems.> > > Love,> > > Sreenadh> > >> > > , "Sreenadh"> > > sreesog@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sunil ji,> > > > Good idea in tune with the sages. Yes, that is an accepted> > > > methodology for deriving results. Good to see that innovative> > > > insights are coming up! > > > > Love,> > > > Sreenadh> > > >> > > > , "sunil nair"> > > > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear sree nadh ji and group.> > > > >> > > > > Why parasara say lagna lord in 7th is bad .general assumption > is> > > > lagna> > > > > lord enhance a house where its placed.> > > > >> > > > > I got a thought in my mind .Please see kalapurush chart.> > > > >> > > > > Lagna is aries and lord in mars and place mars in each houses > and> > > > see> > > > > the effects.> > > > >> > > > > So we can find mars debilated in 4th ,bad in 6th as enemy> > > > house ,not> > > > > comfortable in 7th and 8th is his own house ,9th is a frnds > house> > > > 10th> > > > > is exaltation house ,12th again a frnds house but watery so > lil> > not> > > > > comfortable.> > > > >> > > > > i like to see every ones thoughts and in puts.> > > > >> > > > > Also i think same can be used for other placements of 2nd > lord in> > > > first> > > > > house or 2nd house .This is only a pointer but not an > ultimatum .> > > > >> > > > > As we all know the houses own or frnds or enmy and aspects > always> > > > > change it> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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