Guest guest Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 Hi Gaur, I don't have any difference of opinion that 11H stands for "Multiplicity". The point I want to drive home is , usually, a link or connection between 7H/7L to 11H/11L is often seen in the chart of those who marries twice. This is Not a pre-requisite for second marriage . Even in the Dasha or sub period of a planet connected with 11H , 2nd marriage could take place. As a matter of fact, I have seen couple of charts , with the major period connected with H11 operating of "live-in-arrangements" I have in my possession charts of my Muslim friends, who married four times I think , you are aware of Nadi Granthas written in Tamil , that divides Life into different "Khandas" . The Nadi writers also follows the same rule to predict 2nd marriage, that is, an afflicted 7H/7L and its connection with 11H/11L. Sapathni Yoga and the role of 9H There is an Yoga called "Sapathni Yoga" , means marrying the sis of the wife ,and maintaining both, at the same time. The Yoga is said to arise when there is conjunction of 7 & 9Lords in H9 and is said to be applicable for Leo & Pi Ascendants only. Here is an illustration Place of birth ---Palghat State --Kerala DOB---26Dec1925 TOB---12:22 pm IST The native an ultra conservative Bramin , hailed as the Father of Astrological Renaissance movement of Kerala had traslated from Sanskrit or written , more than 70 Books in Astrology and had taught Astrology to not less than 2000. He was having his wife plus her sis as spouse, throughout his life and Thanks to the Grace of Almighty , both the sisters are healthy and are still alive. Note the composition of the yoga and the role of 9H (sibling) Let me tell you Gaurav, it is quite obvious, that you are perturbed by my writings and is deliberately making attempts to twist my words. I never wrote , as you allege, 11H alone need to be scrutinsed for 2nd marriage. I never made any blanket statement on second marriage to confuse the members.Even a tyro in Astrology knows that an affliction to 7H/7L is imperative for multiple marriage and the directions coupled with Transits ,decides subsequent marriages. Let me make things very clear . I don't have any intention of superimposing or teaching the nuances of Astrology,either to you or someone else . What I wrote , is what I have seen, in several charts ,that passed through my hands If you feel 9H is the sole basis of 2nd marriage, ok , fine, no problem . But pls don't expect me to follow your paralogistic and kindly avoid twisting my words so as to confuse the members Best M Nair -- In , Gaurav Kapur <groovyacharya wrote:>> Dear Mr. M. Nair:> > I would like to add something. 11H is upchaya and is> house of growth or multiplicity. So cannot classify it> into 2nd marraige alone. It shows more relations. I> have horoscopes with me which had affairs and are now> married to somebody else. So it show multiplicity not> marraige as you are saying. I have also seen that if> 7L goes to 5H (11 from 7th) then also multiplicity> exists. To have a second marraige there should be> affliction to the 7th house or lord. You cannot base> it on 11 alone. > > This person is seperated from his wife now and i think> the had a mutual consent on seperation are there is no> litigation or fight involved. It was very peaceful and> infact this guy came to me and told me that his ex is> going around with some other guy now. So the cause of> the seperation was another man in the girls life. I> would post the data of the girl in another mail today> for all of you to analyze. > > Sincerely> Gaurav> > > > > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase.> http://farechase./> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 Dear Mr. Nair: I am neither by perturbed by your words and nor trying to twist anything here. We are here in an open discussion where everybody has to share his views. So we shouldnt bring in our big egos. Everybody is well read here and know atleast what they are talking about. I never said that 9th House alone should be followed to c second marraige. A lot of members do are trying to go with one house. I never follow a single house and all these houses have to be analyzed together. Gaurav --- Balagurusurya <balagurusurya wrote: > > Hi Gaur, > > I don't have any difference of opinion that 11H > stands for > " Multiplicity " . The point I want to drive home is , > usually, a link or > connection between 7H/7L to 11H/11L is often seen > in the chart of those > who marries twice. This is Not a pre-requisite for > second marriage . > Even in the Dasha or sub period of a planet > connected with 11H , 2nd > marriage could take place. As a matter of fact, I > have seen couple of > charts , with the major period connected with H11 > operating of > " live-in-arrangements " I have in my possession > charts of my Muslim > friends, who married four times > > I think , you are aware of Nadi Granthas written in > Tamil , that > divides Life into different " Khandas " . The Nadi > writers also follows > the same rule to predict 2nd marriage, that is, an > afflicted 7H/7L and > its connection with 11H/11L. > > Sapathni Yoga and the role of 9H > > There is an Yoga called " Sapathni Yoga " , means > marrying the sis of the > wife ,and maintaining both, at the same time. The > Yoga is said to arise > when there is conjunction of 7 & 9Lords in H9 and > is said to be > applicable for Leo & Pi Ascendants only. > > Here is an illustration > > Place of birth ---Palghat > > State --Kerala > > DOB---26Dec1925 > > TOB---12:22 pm IST > > The native an ultra conservative Bramin , hailed as > the Father of > Astrological Renaissance movement of Kerala had > traslated from Sanskrit > or written , more than 70 Books in Astrology and had > taught Astrology to > not less than 2000. He was having his wife plus her > sis as spouse, > throughout his life and Thanks to the Grace of > Almighty , both the > sisters are healthy and are still alive. > > Note the composition of the yoga and the role of 9H > (sibling) > > Let me tell you Gaurav, it is quite obvious, that > you are perturbed by > my writings and is deliberately making attempts to > twist my words. > > I never wrote , as you allege, 11H alone need to > be scrutinsed for > 2nd marriage. > > I never made any blanket statement on second > marriage to confuse the > members.Even a tyro in Astrology knows that an > affliction to 7H/7L is > imperative for multiple marriage and the directions > coupled with > Transits ,decides subsequent marriages. > > Let me make things very clear . I don't have any > intention of > superimposing or teaching the nuances of > Astrology,either to you or > someone else . What I wrote , is what I have seen, > in several charts > ,that passed through my hands > > If you feel 9H is the sole basis of 2nd marriage, > ok , fine, no problem > . But pls don't expect me to follow your > paralogistic and kindly avoid > twisting my words so as to confuse the members > > Best > > M Nair > > > > -- In , > Gaurav Kapur > <groovyacharya wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. M. Nair: > > > > I would like to add something. 11H is upchaya and > is > > house of growth or multiplicity. So cannot > classify it > > into 2nd marraige alone. It shows more relations. > I > > have horoscopes with me which had affairs and are > now > > married to somebody else. So it show multiplicity > not > > marraige as you are saying. I have also seen that > if > > 7L goes to 5H (11 from 7th) then also multiplicity > > exists. To have a second marraige there should be > > affliction to the 7th house or lord. You cannot > base > > it on 11 alone. > > > > This person is seperated from his wife now and i > think > > the had a mutual consent on seperation are there > is no > > litigation or fight involved. It was very peaceful > and > > infact this guy came to me and told me that his ex > is > > going around with some other guy now. So the cause > of > > the seperation was another man in the girls life. > I > > would post the data of the girl in another mail > today > > for all of you to analyze. > > > > Sincerely > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > ______________________\ > ____________ > > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights > and hotels with > FareChase. > > http://farechase./ > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 Hi Gaurav Kapur >>>>So we shouldnt bring in our big egos. Everybody iswell read here and know atleast what they are talkingabout. M Nair >>>Had you adhered to what you have written above , I would have never wasted my time in writing to you. .When someone bluff and feel that he successfully lied and convinced every one , they makes a fatal mistake . It is akin to the proverbial cat that pilfers milk and thinks the whole world is plunged in darkness M Nair , Gaurav Kapur <groovyacharya wrote:>> Dear Mr. Nair:> > I am neither by perturbed by your words and nor trying> to twist anything here. We are here in an open> discussion where everybody has to share his views.> > So we shouldnt bring in our big egos. Everybody is> well read here and know atleast what they are talking> about.> > I never said that 9th House alone should be followed> to c second marraige. A lot of members do are trying> to go with one house. > > I never follow a single house and all these houses> have to be analyzed together.> > Gaurav> > > > --- Balagurusurya balagurusurya wrote:> > > > > Hi Gaur,> > > > I don't have any difference of opinion that 11H> > stands for> > "Multiplicity". The point I want to drive home is ,> > usually, a link or> > connection between 7H/7L to 11H/11L is often seen> > in the chart of those> > who marries twice. This is Not a pre-requisite for> > second marriage .> > Even in the Dasha or sub period of a planet> > connected with 11H , 2nd> > marriage could take place. As a matter of fact, I> > have seen couple of> > charts , with the major period connected with H11> > operating of> > "live-in-arrangements" I have in my possession> > charts of my Muslim> > friends, who married four times> > > > I think , you are aware of Nadi Granthas written in> > Tamil , that> > divides Life into different "Khandas" . The Nadi> > writers also follows> > the same rule to predict 2nd marriage, that is, an> > afflicted 7H/7L and> > its connection with 11H/11L.> > > > Sapathni Yoga and the role of 9H> > > > There is an Yoga called "Sapathni Yoga" , means > > marrying the sis of the> > wife ,and maintaining both, at the same time. The> > Yoga is said to arise> > when there is conjunction of 7 & 9Lords in H9 and> > is said to be> > applicable for Leo & Pi Ascendants only.> > > > Here is an illustration> > > > Place of birth ---Palghat> > > > State --Kerala> > > > DOB---26Dec1925> > > > TOB---12:22 pm IST> > > > The native an ultra conservative Bramin , hailed as> > the Father of> > Astrological Renaissance movement of Kerala had> > traslated from Sanskrit> > or written , more than 70 Books in Astrology and had> > taught Astrology to> > not less than 2000. He was having his wife plus her> > sis as spouse,> > throughout his life and Thanks to the Grace of> > Almighty , both the> > sisters are healthy and are still alive.> > > > Note the composition of the yoga and the role of 9H> > (sibling)> > > > Let me tell you Gaurav, it is quite obvious, that> > you are perturbed by> > my writings and is deliberately making attempts to> > twist my words.> > > > I never wrote , as you allege, 11H alone need to> > be scrutinsed for> > 2nd marriage.> > > > I never made any blanket statement on second> > marriage to confuse the> > members.Even a tyro in Astrology knows that an> > affliction to 7H/7L is> > imperative for multiple marriage and the directions> > coupled with> > Transits ,decides subsequent marriages.> > > > Let me make things very clear . I don't have any > > intention of> > superimposing or teaching the nuances of> > Astrology,either to you or> > someone else . What I wrote , is what I have seen,> > in several charts> > ,that passed through my hands> > > > If you feel 9H is the sole basis of 2nd marriage,> > ok , fine, no problem> > . But pls don't expect me to follow your> > paralogistic and kindly avoid> > twisting my words so as to confuse the members> > > > Best> > > > M Nair> > > > > > > > -- In ,> > Gaurav Kapur> > groovyacharya@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Mr. M. Nair:> > >> > > I would like to add something. 11H is upchaya and> > is> > > house of growth or multiplicity. So cannot> > classify it> > > into 2nd marraige alone. It shows more relations.> > I> > > have horoscopes with me which had affairs and are> > now> > > married to somebody else. So it show multiplicity> > not> > > marraige as you are saying. I have also seen that> > if> > > 7L goes to 5H (11 from 7th) then also multiplicity> > > exists. To have a second marraige there should be> > > affliction to the 7th house or lord. You cannot> > base> > > it on 11 alone.> > >> > > This person is seperated from his wife now and i> > think> > > the had a mutual consent on seperation are there> > is no> > > litigation or fight involved. It was very peaceful> > and> > > infact this guy came to me and told me that his ex> > is> > > going around with some other guy now. So the cause> > of> > > the seperation was another man in the girls life.> > I> > > would post the data of the girl in another mail> > today> > > for all of you to analyze.> > >> > > Sincerely> > > Gaurav> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> ______________________\> > ____________> > > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights> > and hotels with> > FareChase.> > > http://farechase./> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. > http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 Dear Gaurav ji, Madhu ji, Calm down...We don't want a new conflict here - do we? Note: I think we all can help each other, to bring back peace, when anyone (at times me, at times you, at time someone else) goes over board.. It is the joy of interaction - but the common thread holds - the interest in astrology... Love, Sreenadh , Gaurav Kapur <groovyacharya wrote: > > Dear Mr. Nair: > > I am neither by perturbed by your words and nor trying > to twist anything here. We are here in an open > discussion where everybody has to share his views. > > So we shouldnt bring in our big egos. Everybody is > well read here and know atleast what they are talking > about. > > I never said that 9th House alone should be followed > to c second marraige. A lot of members do are trying > to go with one house. > > I never follow a single house and all these houses > have to be analyzed together. > > Gaurav > > > > --- Balagurusurya <balagurusurya wrote: > > > > > Hi Gaur, > > > > I don't have any difference of opinion that 11H > > stands for > > " Multiplicity " . The point I want to drive home is , > > usually, a link or > > connection between 7H/7L to 11H/11L is often seen > > in the chart of those > > who marries twice. This is Not a pre-requisite for > > second marriage . > > Even in the Dasha or sub period of a planet > > connected with 11H , 2nd > > marriage could take place. As a matter of fact, I > > have seen couple of > > charts , with the major period connected with H11 > > operating of > > " live-in-arrangements " I have in my possession > > charts of my Muslim > > friends, who married four times > > > > I think , you are aware of Nadi Granthas written in > > Tamil , that > > divides Life into different " Khandas " . The Nadi > > writers also follows > > the same rule to predict 2nd marriage, that is, an > > afflicted 7H/7L and > > its connection with 11H/11L. > > > > Sapathni Yoga and the role of 9H > > > > There is an Yoga called " Sapathni Yoga " , means > > marrying the sis of the > > wife ,and maintaining both, at the same time. The > > Yoga is said to arise > > when there is conjunction of 7 & 9Lords in H9 and > > is said to be > > applicable for Leo & Pi Ascendants only. > > > > Here is an illustration > > > > Place of birth ---Palghat > > > > State --Kerala > > > > DOB---26Dec1925 > > > > TOB---12:22 pm IST > > > > The native an ultra conservative Bramin , hailed as > > the Father of > > Astrological Renaissance movement of Kerala had > > traslated from Sanskrit > > or written , more than 70 Books in Astrology and had > > taught Astrology to > > not less than 2000. He was having his wife plus her > > sis as spouse, > > throughout his life and Thanks to the Grace of > > Almighty , both the > > sisters are healthy and are still alive. > > > > Note the composition of the yoga and the role of 9H > > (sibling) > > > > Let me tell you Gaurav, it is quite obvious, that > > you are perturbed by > > my writings and is deliberately making attempts to > > twist my words. > > > > I never wrote , as you allege, 11H alone need to > > be scrutinsed for > > 2nd marriage. > > > > I never made any blanket statement on second > > marriage to confuse the > > members.Even a tyro in Astrology knows that an > > affliction to 7H/7L is > > imperative for multiple marriage and the directions > > coupled with > > Transits ,decides subsequent marriages. > > > > Let me make things very clear . I don't have any > > intention of > > superimposing or teaching the nuances of > > Astrology,either to you or > > someone else . What I wrote , is what I have seen, > > in several charts > > ,that passed through my hands > > > > If you feel 9H is the sole basis of 2nd marriage, > > ok , fine, no problem > > . But pls don't expect me to follow your > > paralogistic and kindly avoid > > twisting my words so as to confuse the members > > > > Best > > > > M Nair > > > > > > > > -- In , > > Gaurav Kapur > > <groovyacharya@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mr. M. Nair: > > > > > > I would like to add something. 11H is upchaya and > > is > > > house of growth or multiplicity. So cannot > > classify it > > > into 2nd marraige alone. It shows more relations. > > I > > > have horoscopes with me which had affairs and are > > now > > > married to somebody else. So it show multiplicity > > not > > > marraige as you are saying. I have also seen that > > if > > > 7L goes to 5H (11 from 7th) then also multiplicity > > > exists. To have a second marraige there should be > > > affliction to the 7th house or lord. You cannot > > base > > > it on 11 alone. > > > > > > This person is seperated from his wife now and i > > think > > > the had a mutual consent on seperation are there > > is no > > > litigation or fight involved. It was very peaceful > > and > > > infact this guy came to me and told me that his ex > > is > > > going around with some other guy now. So the cause > > of > > > the seperation was another man in the girls life. > > I > > > would post the data of the girl in another mail > > today > > > for all of you to analyze. > > > > > > Sincerely > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ __\ > > ____________ > > > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights > > and hotels with > > FareChase. > > > http://farechase./ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. > http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 Gaurav ji...Madhu ji.... please calm down .... Love, Sreenadh , " Balagurusurya " <balagurusurya wrote: Hi > > Gaurav Kapur >>>>So we shouldnt bring in our big egos. Everybody is > well read here and know atleast what they are talking > about. > > > M Nair >>>Had you adhered to what you have written above , I would have > never wasted my time in writing to you. .When someone bluff and feel > that he successfully lied and convinced every one , they makes a fatal > mistake . It is akin to the proverbial cat that pilfers milk and thinks > the whole world is plunged in darkness > > M Nair > > > , Gaurav Kapur > <groovyacharya@> wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Nair: > > > > I am neither by perturbed by your words and nor trying > > to twist anything here. We are here in an open > > discussion where everybody has to share his views. > > > > So we shouldnt bring in our big egos. Everybody is > > well read here and know atleast what they are talking > > about. > > > > I never said that 9th House alone should be followed > > to c second marraige. A lot of members do are trying > > to go with one house. > > > > I never follow a single house and all these houses > > have to be analyzed together. > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > --- Balagurusurya balagurusurya@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Gaur, > > > > > > I don't have any difference of opinion that 11H > > > stands for > > > " Multiplicity " . The point I want to drive home is , > > > usually, a link or > > > connection between 7H/7L to 11H/11L is often seen > > > in the chart of those > > > who marries twice. This is Not a pre-requisite for > > > second marriage . > > > Even in the Dasha or sub period of a planet > > > connected with 11H , 2nd > > > marriage could take place. As a matter of fact, I > > > have seen couple of > > > charts , with the major period connected with H11 > > > operating of > > > " live-in-arrangements " I have in my possession > > > charts of my Muslim > > > friends, who married four times > > > > > > I think , you are aware of Nadi Granthas written in > > > Tamil , that > > > divides Life into different " Khandas " . The Nadi > > > writers also follows > > > the same rule to predict 2nd marriage, that is, an > > > afflicted 7H/7L and > > > its connection with 11H/11L. > > > > > > Sapathni Yoga and the role of 9H > > > > > > There is an Yoga called " Sapathni Yoga " , means > > > marrying the sis of the > > > wife ,and maintaining both, at the same time. The > > > Yoga is said to arise > > > when there is conjunction of 7 & 9Lords in H9 and > > > is said to be > > > applicable for Leo & Pi Ascendants only. > > > > > > Here is an illustration > > > > > > Place of birth ---Palghat > > > > > > State --Kerala > > > > > > DOB---26Dec1925 > > > > > > TOB---12:22 pm IST > > > > > > The native an ultra conservative Bramin , hailed as > > > the Father of > > > Astrological Renaissance movement of Kerala had > > > traslated from Sanskrit > > > or written , more than 70 Books in Astrology and had > > > taught Astrology to > > > not less than 2000. He was having his wife plus her > > > sis as spouse, > > > throughout his life and Thanks to the Grace of > > > Almighty , both the > > > sisters are healthy and are still alive. > > > > > > Note the composition of the yoga and the role of 9H > > > (sibling) > > > > > > Let me tell you Gaurav, it is quite obvious, that > > > you are perturbed by > > > my writings and is deliberately making attempts to > > > twist my words. > > > > > > I never wrote , as you allege, 11H alone need to > > > be scrutinsed for > > > 2nd marriage. > > > > > > I never made any blanket statement on second > > > marriage to confuse the > > > members.Even a tyro in Astrology knows that an > > > affliction to 7H/7L is > > > imperative for multiple marriage and the directions > > > coupled with > > > Transits ,decides subsequent marriages. > > > > > > Let me make things very clear . I don't have any > > > intention of > > > superimposing or teaching the nuances of > > > Astrology,either to you or > > > someone else . What I wrote , is what I have seen, > > > in several charts > > > ,that passed through my hands > > > > > > If you feel 9H is the sole basis of 2nd marriage, > > > ok , fine, no problem > > > . But pls don't expect me to follow your > > > paralogistic and kindly avoid > > > twisting my words so as to confuse the members > > > > > > Best > > > > > > M Nair > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In , > > > Gaurav Kapur > > > groovyacharya@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. M. Nair: > > > > > > > > I would like to add something. 11H is upchaya and > > > is > > > > house of growth or multiplicity. So cannot > > > classify it > > > > into 2nd marraige alone. It shows more relations. > > > I > > > > have horoscopes with me which had affairs and are > > > now > > > > married to somebody else. So it show multiplicity > > > not > > > > marraige as you are saying. I have also seen that > > > if > > > > 7L goes to 5H (11 from 7th) then also multiplicity > > > > exists. To have a second marraige there should be > > > > affliction to the 7th house or lord. You cannot > > > base > > > > it on 11 alone. > > > > > > > > This person is seperated from his wife now and i > > > think > > > > the had a mutual consent on seperation are there > > > is no > > > > litigation or fight involved. It was very peaceful > > > and > > > > infact this guy came to me and told me that his ex > > > is > > > > going around with some other guy now. So the cause > > > of > > > > the seperation was another man in the girls life. > > > I > > > > would post the data of the girl in another mail > > > today > > > > for all of you to analyze. > > > > > > > > Sincerely > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ __\ > \ > > > ____________ > > > > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights > > > and hotels with > > > FareChase. > > > > http://farechase./ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ __\ > ____________ > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: > mail, news, photos & more. > > http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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