Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Dear Sreenadhji,Amitji,Pantji & Group, Thanks for all your responses on this topic. My views asunder: Sreenadhji:What I implied by Dasa Independent yogas was someting else.What I meant to say was that the 'character traits of a person will be coloured by the particular Mahapurusha Yoga'.Let's take the case of a native with Hamsa yoga in his chart.Even if he is running a negative Dasha his innate optimism ( the native with Hamsa yoga always has more than his fair share of Good Luck owing to the natural benifience of Guru) will help him tide over this situation much better as compared to an individual without this combination in his chart. Amitji:You have mentioned that in your case you have not felt appreciated for all that you have done.This result is in slight variance with the indications of this yoga (hence the request for your birth details) Hope I have made myself clear. A small suggestion:Why don't we take some sample charts with Hamsa yoga & discuss.This shall make it a real learning experience.In case this is acceptable I can post the birth details of some famous personalities with this Yoga & we can take it from there Looking forward to your responses Regards, aavesh Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear pant ji,Yes, As per texts except some Nabhasa Yogas and SadyoMrityu Yogas all other Yogas are Dasa Dependant.Love,Sreenadh , Mr puran pant <puranpant wrote:>> Dear Gurujan, friends and fellow students > > > Heartfelt thanks to for taking up the matter of Panch> Mahapurush Yogas and the subsequent interesting> discussion. > > After I observed the discussion I find from my> experience that they seem to be Dasha Dependent. > > Any more material or life experiences connected with> other Panchmahapurush Yogas will be appreciated.> > Regards - Puranchandra Pant. > > --- Amit Sinha <amit.sinha wrote:> > > With due respect,> > > > > > > > In one of the lectures of Pt. Sanjay Rath it has> > been told that> > Mahpurusha yogas are dasa dependent and I also> > particularly feel so as I> > have an experience of my Ruchaka yoga during Mars> > mahadasa.> > > > > > > > One more thing what he told is that for a pancha> > mahapurusha yoga to> > come into full effect, one's moon nakshatra lord> > must aspect the lagna> > either by rasi or graham drishti out of which graham> > drishti is the> > powerful one. Moreover the sun sign must also aspect> > the lagna. Note> > here sun sign means sun sign according to Vedic> > astrology that is the> > sign of the sun in the natal chart.> > > > > > > > One more thing he commented was that the planet> > giving pancha> > mahapurusha yoga must not be afflicted for pancha> > mahapurusha yoga to> > come into effect as a necessary condition, because> > almost 30% people in> > the world have one or the other pancha mahapurusha> > yoga if we consider> > the condition to be only that the planet be in> > quadrants in own sign,> > mool trikona, or exalted for Venus, Mars,Jupiter,> > Saturn and Mercury.> > > > > > > > Sreenadh ji, please comment on this.> > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > > > > On> > Behalf Of Sreenadh> > Friday, August 31, 2007 10:40 AM> > > > Re: Pancha> > Mahapurusha Yogas> > > > > > > > Dear Aavesh ji,> > You are wrong. Pancha Maha Purusha Yogas are NOT> > dasa independent > > Yogas - they are DASA Dependant. > > Only Mala Yogas etc that fall with in Nabhasa Yoga> > division are > > Dasa independent - there is a defenite reason and> > logic for this. > > Search for it and you will get the gist of it. > > Except some Nabhasa Yogas and Sadyo Mrityu Yogas> > which are > > mentioned as Dasa independent, all other Yogas are> > dasa dependant. > > Know this as a fact, supported by all ancient> > scripts. If you have > > scriptural reference that says "Pancha Maha Purusha> > Yogas are dasa > > independent", I am curious to see the same. > > I agree with you about the fact that Pancha Maha> > Purusha Yogas > > usually indicate good results. > > Love,> > Sreenadh> > > > > > <%40>> > , aavesh t > > <aavesh_s@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sreenadhji,> > > > > > Nice to read your comments on my mail.> > > > > > Regarding the Pancha Mahapurusha Yogas these are> > Dasa independent > > yogas.I mean to say that these yogas will give> > certain character > > traits which will predominate throughout the> > lifespan of the > > individual.That is why much > > > importance is given to them in the Jyotish> > classics like > > BPHS,Saravali etc> > > > > > Hamsa Yoga emphasises the positive qualities of> > Guru some of > > them being 'Optimism,faith,wisdom,good luck' .There> > are also some > > negatives to this > > > yoga of which overindulgence in the good things of> > life is one.> > > > > > You rightly mentioned that unless the proper> > Dashas run in the > > chart the > > > yogas will be of little use to the individual> > concerned> > > > > > Cheers,> > > > > > aavesh> > > > > > > > > Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:> > > Dear aavesh ji,> > > ==>> > > > My personal experience in the case of natives> > with Hamsa > > > > Mahapurusha yoga in their chart is they are> > quite optimistic & > > > > cheerful in their approach to life in general.> > They are truly > > > > blessed in the real sense of the term (in all> > aspects of life).> > > > The only danger being overindulgence in the good> > things of life.> > > <== > > > That seems to be only a comment on 'Aavesh' (etra> > enthusiasm). > > > Leghu Parasari states -> > > Yogeshu Kechijjayante Moodha kasmeera gardabha > > > Yogante kim karishyanti swa dasanamanagemeH> > > [When Yogas are there many Mules of Kashmir also> > take birth. What > > > help the Yogas can do if the Dasas are not coming]> > > So there could be thousands of horoscopes with> > good Yogas, which > > > may never realize. Also not that the results that> > should be > > ascribed > > > to close relatives too may reflect in one's> > horoscope. To add to > > it - > > > if only Yoga indicate a result (and if Dasa and> > Gochara does not > > > support it), that is only an 'Adridha phala' (weak> > result) that may > > > or may not come true. Astrology greatly values> > emphasized > > probability > > > (Dwi Tri samvada Bhaval), without which no result> > will come true. > > > Love,> > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > <%40>> > , aavesh t > > > <aavesh_s@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Amitji,> > > > > > > > Could you please post your birth details,it> > shall be interesting > > > to study> > > > your chart.> > > > > > > > My personal experience in the case of natives> > with Hamsa > > > Mahapurusha yoga> > > > in their chart is they are quite optimistic & > > cheerful in their > > > approach to life> > > > in general.They are truly blessed in the real> > sense of the term > > > (in all> > > > aspects of life).The only danger being> > overindulgence in the good > > > things > > > > of life.> > > > > > > > Looking forward to hearing from you> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > aavesh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Amit Sinha <amit.sinha@> wrote:> > > > I can just give you my experiences with the> > pancha > > > === message truncated ===> > > > ________ > Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? 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Guest guest Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Dear Aavesh ji, If you search the previous mails posted in this group, you may find a thread titled " Bhava Nasakaro Jeeva? " and the taking the placement of Ju in the horoscope of one of the good scholars in this group, the placement of Ju in Sagittarius and Pisces (in 4th or 7th) is discussed in great detail. Hope this helps. Love, Sreenadh , aavesh t <aavesh_s wrote: > > Dear Sreenadhji,Amitji,Pantji & Group, > > Thanks for all your responses on this topic. > > My views asunder: > > Sreenadhji:What I implied by Dasa Independent yogas was someting > else.What I meant to say was that the 'character traits of a person will > be coloured by the particular Mahapurusha Yoga'.Let's take the case of a > native with Hamsa yoga in his chart.Even if he is running a negative Dasha his innate optimism ( the native with Hamsa yoga always has more than his fair share of Good Luck owing to the natural benifience of Guru) will help him > tide over this situation much better as compared to an individual without this > combination in his chart. > > Amitji:You have mentioned that in your case you have not felt appreciated for > all that you have done.This result is in slight variance with the indications of this > yoga (hence the request for your birth details) > > Hope I have made myself clear. A small suggestion:Why don't we take some sample charts with Hamsa yoga & discuss.This shall make it a real learning experience.In case this is acceptable I can post the birth details of some > famous personalities with this Yoga & we can take it from there > > Looking forward to your responses > > Regards, > > aavesh > > > Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: > Dear pant ji, > Yes, As per texts except some Nabhasa Yogas and SadyoMrityu Yogas > all other Yogas are Dasa Dependant. > Love, > Sreenadh > > , Mr puran pant > <puranpant@> wrote: > > > > Dear Gurujan, friends and fellow students > > > > > > Heartfelt thanks to for taking up the matter of Panch > > Mahapurush Yogas and the subsequent interesting > > discussion. > > > > After I observed the discussion I find from my > > experience that they seem to be Dasha Dependent. > > > > Any more material or life experiences connected with > > other Panchmahapurush Yogas will be appreciated. > > > > Regards - Puranchandra Pant. > > > > --- Amit Sinha <amit.sinha@> wrote: > > > > > With due respect, > > > > > > > > > > > > In one of the lectures of Pt. Sanjay Rath it has > > > been told that > > > Mahpurusha yogas are dasa dependent and I also > > > particularly feel so as I > > > have an experience of my Ruchaka yoga during Mars > > > mahadasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > One more thing what he told is that for a pancha > > > mahapurusha yoga to > > > come into full effect, one's moon nakshatra lord > > > must aspect the lagna > > > either by rasi or graham drishti out of which graham > > > drishti is the > > > powerful one. Moreover the sun sign must also aspect > > > the lagna. Note > > > here sun sign means sun sign according to Vedic > > > astrology that is the > > > sign of the sun in the natal chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > One more thing he commented was that the planet > > > giving pancha > > > mahapurusha yoga must not be afflicted for pancha > > > mahapurusha yoga to > > > come into effect as a necessary condition, because > > > almost 30% people in > > > the world have one or the other pancha mahapurusha > > > yoga if we consider > > > the condition to be only that the planet be in > > > quadrants in own sign, > > > mool trikona, or exalted for Venus, Mars,Jupiter, > > > Saturn and Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh ji, please comment on this. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > On > > > Behalf Of Sreenadh > > > Friday, August 31, 2007 10:40 AM > > > > > > Re: Pancha > > > Mahapurusha Yogas > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Aavesh ji, > > > You are wrong. Pancha Maha Purusha Yogas are NOT > > > dasa independent > > > Yogas - they are DASA Dependant. > > > Only Mala Yogas etc that fall with in Nabhasa Yoga > > > division are > > > Dasa independent - there is a defenite reason and > > > logic for this. > > > Search for it and you will get the gist of it. > > > Except some Nabhasa Yogas and Sadyo Mrityu Yogas > > > which are > > > mentioned as Dasa independent, all other Yogas are > > > dasa dependant. > > > Know this as a fact, supported by all ancient > > > scripts. If you have > > > scriptural reference that says " Pancha Maha Purusha > > > Yogas are dasa > > > independent " , I am curious to see the same. > > > I agree with you about the fact that Pancha Maha > > > Purusha Yogas > > > usually indicate good results. > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > , aavesh t > > > <aavesh_s@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > > > > > Nice to read your comments on my mail. > > > > > > > > Regarding the Pancha Mahapurusha Yogas these are > > > Dasa independent > > > yogas.I mean to say that these yogas will give > > > certain character > > > traits which will predominate throughout the > > > lifespan of the > > > individual.That is why much > > > > importance is given to them in the Jyotish > > > classics like > > > BPHS,Saravali etc > > > > > > > > Hamsa Yoga emphasises the positive qualities of > > > Guru some of > > > them being 'Optimism,faith,wisdom,good luck' .There > > > are also some > > > negatives to this > > > > yoga of which overindulgence in the good things of > > > life is one. > > > > > > > > You rightly mentioned that unless the proper > > > Dashas run in the > > > chart the > > > > yogas will be of little use to the individual > > > concerned > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > aavesh > > > > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > Dear aavesh ji, > > > > ==> > > > > > My personal experience in the case of natives > > > with Hamsa > > > > > Mahapurusha yoga in their chart is they are > > > quite optimistic & > > > > > cheerful in their approach to life in general. > > > They are truly > > > > > blessed in the real sense of the term (in all > > > aspects of life). > > > > > The only danger being overindulgence in the good > > > things of life. > > > > <== > > > > That seems to be only a comment on 'Aavesh' (etra > > > enthusiasm). > > > > Leghu Parasari states - > > > > Yogeshu Kechijjayante Moodha kasmeera gardabha > > > > Yogante kim karishyanti swa dasanamanagemeH > > > > [When Yogas are there many Mules of Kashmir also > > > take birth. What > > > > help the Yogas can do if the Dasas are not coming] > > > > So there could be thousands of horoscopes with > > > good Yogas, which > > > > may never realize. Also not that the results that > > > should be > > > ascribed > > > > to close relatives too may reflect in one's > > > horoscope. To add to > > > it - > > > > if only Yoga indicate a result (and if Dasa and > > > Gochara does not > > > > support it), that is only an 'Adridha phala' (weak > > > result) that may > > > > or may not come true. Astrology greatly values > > > emphasized > > > probability > > > > (Dwi Tri samvada Bhaval), without which no result > > > will come true. > > > > Love, > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > , aavesh t > > > > <aavesh_s@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Amitji, > > > > > > > > > > Could you please post your birth details,it > > > shall be interesting > > > > to study > > > > > your chart. > > > > > > > > > > My personal experience in the case of natives > > > with Hamsa > > > > Mahapurusha yoga > > > > > in their chart is they are quite optimistic & > > > cheerful in their > > > > approach to life > > > > > in general.They are truly blessed in the real > > > sense of the term > > > > (in all > > > > > aspects of life).The only danger being > > > overindulgence in the good > > > > things > > > > > of life. > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to hearing from you > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > aavesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Amit Sinha <amit.sinha@> wrote: > > > > > I can just give you my experiences with the > > > pancha > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > ________ > > Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? 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Guest guest Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Dear Sreenadhji, Thanks for your reply.'Bhava Nasakaro Jeevah' is one of the most misunderstood concepts in Jyotish.This principle has to be applied with great care (particularly when Guru is placed in Hamsa Yoga). Regards, aavesh Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear Aavesh ji,If you search the previous mails posted in this group, you may finda thread titled "Bhava Nasakaro Jeeva?" and the taking the placementof Ju in the horoscope of one of the good scholars in this group, theplacement of Ju in Sagittarius and Pisces (in 4th or 7th) is discussedin great detail. Hope this helps.Love,Sreenadh , aavesh t<aavesh_s wrote:>> Dear Sreenadhji,Amitji,Pantji & Group,> > Thanks for all your responses on this topic.> > My views asunder:> > Sreenadhji:What I implied by Dasa Independent yogas was someting > else.What I meant to say was that the 'character traits of aperson will> be coloured by the particular Mahapurusha Yoga'.Let's take thecase of a> native with Hamsa yoga in his chart.Even if he is running anegative Dasha his innate optimism ( the native with Hamsa yoga alwayshas more than his fair share of Good Luck owing to the naturalbenifience of Guru) will help him > tide over this situation much better as compared to an individualwithout this> combination in his chart.> > Amitji:You have mentioned that in your case you have not feltappreciated for > all that you have done.This result is in slight variance with theindications of this > yoga (hence the request for your birth details)> > Hope I have made myself clear. A small suggestion:Why don't wetake some sample charts with Hamsa yoga & discuss.This shall make it areal learning experience.In case this is acceptable I can post thebirth details of some> famous personalities with this Yoga & we can take it from there > > Looking forward to your responses> > Regards,> > aavesh> > > Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:> Dear pant ji,> Yes, As per texts except some Nabhasa Yogas and SadyoMrityu Yogas > all other Yogas are Dasa Dependant.> Love,> Sreenadh > > , Mr puran pant > <puranpant@> wrote:> >> > Dear Gurujan, friends and fellow students > > > > > > Heartfelt thanks to for taking up the matter of Panch> > Mahapurush Yogas and the subsequent interesting> > discussion. > > > > After I observed the discussion I find from my> > experience that they seem to be Dasha Dependent. > > > > Any more material or life experiences connected with> > other Panchmahapurush Yogas will be appreciated.> > > > Regards - Puranchandra Pant. > > > > --- Amit Sinha <amit.sinha@> wrote:> > > > > With due respect,> > > > > > > > > > > > In one of the lectures of Pt. Sanjay Rath it has> > > been told that> > > Mahpurusha yogas are dasa dependent and I also> > > particularly feel so as I> > > have an experience of my Ruchaka yoga during Mars> > > mahadasa.> > > > > > > > > > > > One more thing what he told is that for a pancha> > > mahapurusha yoga to> > > come into full effect, one's moon nakshatra lord> > > must aspect the lagna> > > either by rasi or graham drishti out of which graham> > > drishti is the> > > powerful one. Moreover the sun sign must also aspect> > > the lagna. Note> > > here sun sign means sun sign according to Vedic> > > astrology that is the> > > sign of the sun in the natal chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > One more thing he commented was that the planet> > > giving pancha> > > mahapurusha yoga must not be afflicted for pancha> > > mahapurusha yoga to> > > come into effect as a necessary condition, because> > > almost 30% people in> > > the world have one or the other pancha mahapurusha> > > yoga if we consider> > > the condition to be only that the planet be in> > > quadrants in own sign,> > > mool trikona, or exalted for Venus, Mars,Jupiter,> > > Saturn and Mercury.> > > > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh ji, please comment on this.> > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > > > > > > > On> > > Behalf Of Sreenadh> > > Friday, August 31, 2007 10:40 AM> > > > > > Re: Pancha> > > Mahapurusha Yogas> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Aavesh ji,> > > You are wrong. Pancha Maha Purusha Yogas are NOT> > > dasa independent > > > Yogas - they are DASA Dependant. > > > Only Mala Yogas etc that fall with in Nabhasa Yoga> > > division are > > > Dasa independent - there is a defenite reason and> > > logic for this. > > > Search for it and you will get the gist of it. > > > Except some Nabhasa Yogas and Sadyo Mrityu Yogas> > > which are > > > mentioned as Dasa independent, all other Yogas are> > > dasa dependant. > > > Know this as a fact, supported by all ancient> > > scripts. If you have > > > scriptural reference that says "Pancha Maha Purusha> > > Yogas are dasa > > > independent", I am curious to see the same. > > > I agree with you about the fact that Pancha Maha> > > Purusha Yogas > > > usually indicate good results. > > > Love,> > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > > <%40>> > > , aavesh t > > > <aavesh_s@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sreenadhji,> > > > > > > > Nice to read your comments on my mail.> > > > > > > > Regarding the Pancha Mahapurusha Yogas these are> > > Dasa independent > > > yogas.I mean to say that these yogas will give> > > certain character > > > traits which will predominate throughout the> > > lifespan of the > > > individual.That is why much > > > > importance is given to them in the Jyotish> > > classics like > > > BPHS,Saravali etc> > > > > > > > Hamsa Yoga emphasises the positive qualities of> > > Guru some of > > > them being 'Optimism,faith,wisdom,good luck' .There> > > are also some > > > negatives to this > > > > yoga of which overindulgence in the good things of> > > life is one.> > > > > > > > You rightly mentioned that unless the proper> > > Dashas run in the > > > chart the > > > > yogas will be of little use to the individual> > > concerned> > > > > > > > Cheers,> > > > > > > > aavesh> > > > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:> > > > Dear aavesh ji,> > > > ==>> > > > > My personal experience in the case of natives> > > with Hamsa > > > > > Mahapurusha yoga in their chart is they are> > > quite optimistic & > > > > > cheerful in their approach to life in general.> > > They are truly > > > > > blessed in the real sense of the term (in all> > > aspects of life).> > > > > The only danger being overindulgence in the good> > > things of life.> > > > <== > > > > That seems to be only a comment on 'Aavesh' (etra> > > enthusiasm). > > > > Leghu Parasari states -> > > > Yogeshu Kechijjayante Moodha kasmeera gardabha > > > > Yogante kim karishyanti swa dasanamanagemeH> > > > [When Yogas are there many Mules of Kashmir also> > > take birth. What > > > > help the Yogas can do if the Dasas are not coming]> > > > So there could be thousands of horoscopes with> > > good Yogas, which > > > > may never realize. Also not that the results that> > > should be > > > ascribed > > > > to close relatives too may reflect in one's> > > horoscope. To add to > > > it - > > > > if only Yoga indicate a result (and if Dasa and> > > Gochara does not > > > > support it), that is only an 'Adridha phala' (weak> > > result) that may > > > > or may not come true. Astrology greatly values> > > emphasized > > > probability > > > > (Dwi Tri samvada Bhaval), without which no result> > > will come true. > > > > Love,> > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > > > > <%40>> > > , aavesh t > > > > <aavesh_s@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Amitji,> > > > > > > > > > Could you please post your birth details,it> > > shall be interesting > > > > to study> > > > > your chart.> > > > > > > > > > My personal experience in the case of natives> > > with Hamsa > > > > Mahapurusha yoga> > > > > in their chart is they are quite optimistic & > > > cheerful in their > > > > approach to life> > > > > in general.They are truly blessed in the real> > > sense of the term > > > > (in all> > > > > aspects of life).The only danger being> > > overindulgence in the good > > > > things > > > > > of life.> > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to hearing from you> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > aavesh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Amit Sinha <amit.sinha@> wrote:> > > > > I can just give you my experiences with the> > > pancha > > > > > === message truncated ===> > > > > > > > ________ > > Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? 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Guest guest Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Before coming to Aavesh(extra sentimental enthusiasm), and start commenting, please read it man! Love, Sreenadh , aavesh t <aavesh_s wrote: > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > Thanks for your reply.'Bhava Nasakaro Jeevah' is one of the most misunderstood concepts in Jyotish.This principle has to be applied with great care (particularly when Guru is placed in Hamsa Yoga). > > Regards, > > aavesh > > > Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: > Dear Aavesh ji, > If you search the previous mails posted in this group, you may find > a thread titled " Bhava Nasakaro Jeeva? " and the taking the placement > of Ju in the horoscope of one of the good scholars in this group, the > placement of Ju in Sagittarius and Pisces (in 4th or 7th) is discussed > in great detail. Hope this helps. > Love, > Sreenadh > > , aavesh t > <aavesh_s@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadhji,Amitji,Pantji & Group, > > > > Thanks for all your responses on this topic. > > > > My views asunder: > > > > Sreenadhji:What I implied by Dasa Independent yogas was someting > > else.What I meant to say was that the 'character traits of a > person will > > be coloured by the particular Mahapurusha Yoga'.Let's take the > case of a > > native with Hamsa yoga in his chart.Even if he is running a > negative Dasha his innate optimism ( the native with Hamsa yoga always > has more than his fair share of Good Luck owing to the natural > benifience of Guru) will help him > > tide over this situation much better as compared to an individual > without this > > combination in his chart. > > > > Amitji:You have mentioned that in your case you have not felt > appreciated for > > all that you have done.This result is in slight variance with the > indications of this > > yoga (hence the request for your birth details) > > > > Hope I have made myself clear. A small suggestion:Why don't we > take some sample charts with Hamsa yoga & discuss.This shall make it a > real learning experience.In case this is acceptable I can post the > birth details of some > > famous personalities with this Yoga & we can take it from there > > > > Looking forward to your responses > > > > Regards, > > > > aavesh > > > > > > Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote: > > Dear pant ji, > > Yes, As per texts except some Nabhasa Yogas and SadyoMrityu Yogas > > all other Yogas are Dasa Dependant. > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > > , Mr puran pant > > <puranpant@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gurujan, friends and fellow students > > > > > > > > > Heartfelt thanks to for taking up the matter of Panch > > > Mahapurush Yogas and the subsequent interesting > > > discussion. > > > > > > After I observed the discussion I find from my > > > experience that they seem to be Dasha Dependent. > > > > > > Any more material or life experiences connected with > > > other Panchmahapurush Yogas will be appreciated. > > > > > > Regards - Puranchandra Pant. > > > > > > --- Amit Sinha <amit.sinha@> wrote: > > > > > > > With due respect, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In one of the lectures of Pt. Sanjay Rath it has > > > > been told that > > > > Mahpurusha yogas are dasa dependent and I also > > > > particularly feel so as I > > > > have an experience of my Ruchaka yoga during Mars > > > > mahadasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One more thing what he told is that for a pancha > > > > mahapurusha yoga to > > > > come into full effect, one's moon nakshatra lord > > > > must aspect the lagna > > > > either by rasi or graham drishti out of which graham > > > > drishti is the > > > > powerful one. Moreover the sun sign must also aspect > > > > the lagna. Note > > > > here sun sign means sun sign according to Vedic > > > > astrology that is the > > > > sign of the sun in the natal chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One more thing he commented was that the planet > > > > giving pancha > > > > mahapurusha yoga must not be afflicted for pancha > > > > mahapurusha yoga to > > > > come into effect as a necessary condition, because > > > > almost 30% people in > > > > the world have one or the other pancha mahapurusha > > > > yoga if we consider > > > > the condition to be only that the planet be in > > > > quadrants in own sign, > > > > mool trikona, or exalted for Venus, Mars,Jupiter, > > > > Saturn and Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh ji, please comment on this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > On > > > > Behalf Of Sreenadh > > > > Friday, August 31, 2007 10:40 AM > > > > > > > > Re: Pancha > > > > Mahapurusha Yogas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Aavesh ji, > > > > You are wrong. Pancha Maha Purusha Yogas are NOT > > > > dasa independent > > > > Yogas - they are DASA Dependant. > > > > Only Mala Yogas etc that fall with in Nabhasa Yoga > > > > division are > > > > Dasa independent - there is a defenite reason and > > > > logic for this. > > > > Search for it and you will get the gist of it. > > > > Except some Nabhasa Yogas and Sadyo Mrityu Yogas > > > > which are > > > > mentioned as Dasa independent, all other Yogas are > > > > dasa dependant. > > > > Know this as a fact, supported by all ancient > > > > scripts. If you have > > > > scriptural reference that says " Pancha Maha Purusha > > > > Yogas are dasa > > > > independent " , I am curious to see the same. > > > > I agree with you about the fact that Pancha Maha > > > > Purusha Yogas > > > > usually indicate good results. > > > > Love, > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > , aavesh t > > > > <aavesh_s@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > > > > > > > Nice to read your comments on my mail. > > > > > > > > > > Regarding the Pancha Mahapurusha Yogas these are > > > > Dasa independent > > > > yogas.I mean to say that these yogas will give > > > > certain character > > > > traits which will predominate throughout the > > > > lifespan of the > > > > individual.That is why much > > > > > importance is given to them in the Jyotish > > > > classics like > > > > BPHS,Saravali etc > > > > > > > > > > Hamsa Yoga emphasises the positive qualities of > > > > Guru some of > > > > them being 'Optimism,faith,wisdom,good luck' .There > > > > are also some > > > > negatives to this > > > > > yoga of which overindulgence in the good things of > > > > life is one. > > > > > > > > > > You rightly mentioned that unless the proper > > > > Dashas run in the > > > > chart the > > > > > yogas will be of little use to the individual > > > > concerned > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > aavesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > Dear aavesh ji, > > > > > ==> > > > > > > My personal experience in the case of natives > > > > with Hamsa > > > > > > Mahapurusha yoga in their chart is they are > > > > quite optimistic & > > > > > > cheerful in their approach to life in general. > > > > They are truly > > > > > > blessed in the real sense of the term (in all > > > > aspects of life). > > > > > > The only danger being overindulgence in the good > > > > things of life. > > > > > <== > > > > > That seems to be only a comment on 'Aavesh' (etra > > > > enthusiasm). > > > > > Leghu Parasari states - > > > > > Yogeshu Kechijjayante Moodha kasmeera gardabha > > > > > Yogante kim karishyanti swa dasanamanagemeH > > > > > [When Yogas are there many Mules of Kashmir also > > > > take birth. What > > > > > help the Yogas can do if the Dasas are not coming] > > > > > So there could be thousands of horoscopes with > > > > good Yogas, which > > > > > may never realize. Also not that the results that > > > > should be > > > > ascribed > > > > > to close relatives too may reflect in one's > > > > horoscope. To add to > > > > it - > > > > > if only Yoga indicate a result (and if Dasa and > > > > Gochara does not > > > > > support it), that is only an 'Adridha phala' (weak > > > > result) that may > > > > > or may not come true. Astrology greatly values > > > > emphasized > > > > probability > > > > > (Dwi Tri samvada Bhaval), without which no result > > > > will come true. > > > > > Love, > > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > , aavesh t > > > > > <aavesh_s@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Amitji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please post your birth details,it > > > > shall be interesting > > > > > to study > > > > > > your chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > My personal experience in the case of natives > > > > with Hamsa > > > > > Mahapurusha yoga > > > > > > in their chart is they are quite optimistic & > > > > cheerful in their > > > > > approach to life > > > > > > in general.They are truly blessed in the real > > > > sense of the term > > > > > (in all > > > > > > aspects of life).The only danger being > > > > overindulgence in the good > > > > > things > > > > > > of life. > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to hearing from you > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > aavesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Amit Sinha <amit.sinha@> wrote: > > > > > > I can just give you my experiences with the > > > > pancha > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? 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