[hc] Fwd: The Astronomical Basis of the Catur Yuga System

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hinducivilization , " Avtar Krishen Kaul "

<jyotirved wrote:

 

Sarvashree Bhalachandra Thattey and Dr. Anand M. Sharan ji,

Namaskar!

The views about Aryabhata had been expressed by Shri Sreenadh at

HinduCalendar forum. He is, to the best of my knowledge, not a Jain

himself and hails from Kerala! He is the owner/moderator of

http://groups/yaho.com

forum and is a member of

HinduCalendar

frorum. The latter one is " owned " by me, though just notionally!

Both these forums, like hinducivilization, are un-moderated for

posts and any opinions expressed by anybody are usually debated

throughly even if it is just one member who responds to those views.

I am forwarding your views to Shri Sreenadh.

 

In any case, it remains an undisputed fact that Aryabhata had

purloined the fundamental arguments of all the planets from the

original Surya Sidhanta as given in the Pancha Sidhantika and it is

that very system that is known as ardha-ratrika system, since the

much debated yet elusive and non-existent Kaliyuga is suppoed to

have started at " ardharatri " i.e. midnight, (that also Ujjain mean

time!) on February 17/18, 3102 BC. Later, he manipulated these very

funamental arguments in his another book to make them yield zero

degree longitudes for all the planets for 6-0 am of February 18,

3102 BC. This one is known as the Audayika system, since the poor

Aryabhata did not even know that the sun could not have risen at

exact six o'clock, Ujjain Mean Time, on that date! In any case,

Arybhata did play his role in making Hindus all the more dependent

on and reverant towards the Surya Sidhanta of Maya the mlechha,

instead of doing some independent research of his own to arrive at

the correct duration of the year or to make the calculated results

tally exactly with vedha i.e. practical observations! But then,

that wa not the fate of India -- to make any worthwile progress in

astronomy since we had become complete phalit jyotishis by then

instead of ganitajnyas, thanks to the Yavana (Greek!) influence!

 

With regards,

A K Kaul

 

 

 

hinducivilization , " Bhalchandra Thattey "

<bgthattey@> wrote:

>

> It is a well established trend amongst the Jains to claim all the

good

> things and characters of India i.e. Bharat as their own. I have

noticed it

> many times. Following are a few examples ::

> - Ramchandra is claimed to be a Jain.

> - ChandraGupta maurya is claimed to be a Jain.

> - Patanjali is claimed to be a Jain.

> Another trend is that quite a few Jains take immence pleasure in

> bad-mouthing the Sanskrit language although a lot of Jain religious

> litereature is Sanskrit and some Jains are great Sanskrit scholars

e.g.

> Bimli who has compiled an authoratitve book called DHATURATNAKARA.

> Bhalchandra G. Thattey

>

>

> On 7/22/07, amsharanx <amsharanx@> wrote:

> >

> > It is well known that Aryabhatt lived in Pataliputra at the

time of

> > Buddhagupta.

> >

> > The Kerala Mathematicians came later on after the migrations of

> > scientists from Ujjain due to Muslim invasions. They receded to

deep

> > south.

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> > Anand M. Sharan

> >

> > hinducivilization <hinducivilization%

40>,

> > " Avtar Krishen Kaul "

> > <jyotirved@> wrote:

> > >

> > > HinduCalendar <HinduCalendar%

40>,

> > " Sreenadh " <sreesog@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ishwardas ji,

> > > Aryabhata was a Jain as is clear from the mention of Jain style

> > > system of 'Yuga that is Apasarpini' in Aryabhateeya. His yuga

is of

> > > the proportion 1:1:1:1 and is is a deviation from the 4:3:2:1

style

> > > of

> > > the Indian system. Many tried hard to ascribe the knowledge of

> > > Aryabhata (Note arya bhatta; but only bhata) to brahmins -

even by

> > > misinterpreting his words.

> > > The circumference of earth provided by any astronomer would be

> > > based

> > > on the measurements made at his native place; and this clear

logic

> > > can

> > > give the BT latitude of any astronomer who provided the

> > circumference

> > > of earth. Bye this logic Aryabhata lived in Kerala 10 deg 55

min.

> > > I would say that in a way Kaul ji's retort against Aryabhata is

> > > good

> > > - because we should know that it based on the Aryabhata's yuga

> > system

> > > and reference to bharata that people derive the Mahabharata

war year

> > > to be 3102 BC!

> > > * Bharata (a king's name; Brother of Bahubali) is

misinterpreted

> > to

> > > Maha bhaarata war!

> > > If this lone reference is gone - the year BC 3102 ascribed to

> > > Mahabharta war becomes baseless!!

> > > So I would suggest that Kaul ji should keep up his fight

against

> > > Aryabhatta; Yuga and what not! As an outcome of course new

facts

> > > will come up.

> > > With the Devanagari script that came up and become popular just

> > > around AD 200 - 400; and a made up books and history these

brahimis

> > > had made mess of indian histroy already! Ofcourse this mess

would be

> > > cleared at least to an extend and the real contributions of

many

> > > including Harappans;Jains;Buddists;Zourashtrians;Babylonians

etc

> > will

> > > come up.

> > > Love,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> > > HinduCalendar <HinduCalendar%

40>,

> > " Ishwardas "

> > > <ishwardas.prakash173@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Shri A K Kaul ji,

> > > >

> > > > Namaskar!

> > > >

> > > > It is imperative to understand that we cannot blame

everything on

> > > > Aryabhatta, nor can we re-invent Hindu tradition on the

basis of

> > > what

> > > > we believe our ancestors to have borrowed from him, in

> > particular,

> > > in

 

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Bhalchandra G. Thattey

> Shubham Bhavatu

> Svalpasya Yogasya Trayate Mahato Bhayat

>

 

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