Fwd: Birth Time Rectification exercise - error?

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, " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote:

 

Dear Krishna ji,

Yes, you are right - I verified it. I will correct it or remove

that document itself from that file section. But hope, it still

serves the purpose of conveying the method to be used.

 

P.S 1: You should have posted this message in the `ancient Indian

astrology' group; the file is present in the files section of the

same.

P.S 2: That document is just an example. A detailed document

regarding the BT rectification methods I would be uploading by

Saturday, in the said group.

 

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998@> wrote:

>

> Dear Sreendah,

>

> I was going through your doucment step by step redoing the

> calculations myself to understand the procedure better. I seem

> to have noticed an error. Please correct me if I am wrong:

>

> In Step 2, the Mathematical part you write:

>

> Sunrise Time : 6.01 AM (Tip of the sun truly on the eastern

> horizon)

> Sunset Time : 6.31 PM (Previous day)

> Day Time Duration (Night) : 6.01 (+12.00) - 6.31 = 11.30 Hours

> Yama Duration : 11.30 / 8 = 86 min = 1.26 hours

> 7th Yama = 4.33 to 5.59 AM

>

> Please note that what you stated as 7th Yama is actually 8th

> Yama, the last one. The end time is 5:59 and the Sun rise time

> is 6:01. The difference in two minutes could be due to rounding

> off error.

>

> Please check this and let me know if my understanding is not

> correct.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> --- Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:

>

> > Dear Krishna ji,

> > ==>

> > > I too to the view that Navamsa chart is

> > > as important as Rasi chart.

> > <==

> > * There is not Navamsa " chart " , but only Navamsa. Navamsa

> > chart is

> > not as important as Rasi chart and it can never be, because it

> > is

> > only an amsa. But yes, it is more important than other amsas

> > due to

> > the prior said reasons.

> > ==>

> > > - Why strength of a planet is Navamsa determines the overall

> > > strength of a planet?

> > <==

> > * Because the quality of earth determines the strength of

> > the

> > plant. This is applicable to all amsas as per their

> > importance.

> > ==>

> > > - Why it is allowed to consider aspects in Navamsa chart

> > like

> > > aspects in a Rasi chart?

> > <==

> > * No, it is not allowed to consider aspects in Navamsa.

> > (There is

> > no navamsa 'chart'.)

> >

> > ==>

> > > - Why sambandha of planets in Navamsa chart can be treated

> > as if

> > > the planets have a sambandha in Rasi chart?

> > <==

> > * No, when planets have sambandha in Navamsa, it only means

> > that.

> > When they have sombandha in Rasi, it only means that. It is

> > wrong to

> > mix the two.

> > ==>

> > > - Why yogas should be looked at in navamsa chart as well?

> > <==

> > * No, Yogas should not be looked in Navamsa 'chart'. But yes

> > yoga in

> > Navamsa (not navamsa 'chart') can be taken yoga. Because it is

> > the

> > same principles as used in Rasi that are used to predict the

> > result

> > in Amsas as well - But Aspect(Drishti) and houses are not

> > applicable

> > to amsas. Both Aspect(Drishti) and Houses should be considered

> > in

> > Rasi chart itself. Any reference in ancient texts about aspect

> > or

> > houses essentially mean that they are referring to Rasi chart.

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kolachina ji,

> > >

> > > It was interesting to read your comments on importance of

> > the

> > > Navamsa chart. I too to the view that Navamsa

> > chart is

> > > as important as Rasi chart. This is based on my experience

> > so

> > > far reading charts. However, I have still not understood

> > what

> > > are the fundamental reasons for a varga chart being so

> > > important.

> > >

> > > - Why strength of a planet is Navamsa determines the overall

> > > strength of a planet?

> > > - Why it is allowed to consider aspects in Navamsa chart

> > like

> > > aspects in a Rasi chart?

> > > - Why sambandha of planets in Navamsa chart can be treated

> > as if

> > > the planets have a sambandha in Rasi chart?

> > > - Why yogas should be looked at in navamsa chart as well?

> > >

> > > By looking at the kind of importance given to Navamsa chart,

> > it

> > > appears that the Rasi chart and Navamsa chart make up two

> > equal

> > > halves representing the native.

> > >

> > > I have no doubts about the importance of Navamsa Chart. What

> > I

> > > would like to know is why Navamsa gains such an importance?

> > What

> > > are the fundamental reasons? After all it is one of many

> > varga

> > > charts!

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Krishna

> > >

> > > --- Satya Sai Kolachina <skolachi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Sri Pradeep and Sri Chandrasekhar,

> > > >

> > > > I have been following this thread on karakamsa and both of

> > > > your

> > > > contributions.

> > > >

> > > > I whole-heartedly appreciate both of you for your valuable

> > > > inputs

> > > > you are providing to the astrological community. I would

> > like

> > > > to

> > > > share my opinion (through my own experience).

> > > >

> > > > Considering Karakamsa from either Rasi or Navamsa chart

> > alone

> > > > most

> > > > probably leads to erroneous results, as I found both the

> > > > approaches

> > > > working. I see the point Pradeep is making as very

> > valuable;

> > > > at the

> > > > same time I am not against using Navamsa chart as separate

> > > > chart (of

> > > > course without losing the context of the Rasi chart),

> > since

> > > > any of

> > > > the varga charts will not give independent results if the

> > Rasi

> > > > chart

> > > > is ignored, as they themselves do not exist if the Rasi

> > chart

> > > > doesn't exist. In fact Sri KN Rao also mentioned in

> > several

> > > > occassions in many of his articles and books that yogas

> > viewed

> > > > in

> > > > the Rasi chart should also exist in the Navamsa chart for

> > > > confirming

> > > > the results. If we do not see the Navamsa chart as a

> > separate

> > > > chart,

> > > > how can we see the yogas therein? For the purpose of

> > checking

> > > > some

> > > > yogas, Yuti and Veekshana (conjunction and aspects) in the

> > > > navamsa

> > > > chart make sense. This kind of yuti or veekshana should be

> >

> > > > considered on a hypothetical level (as mutual influence at

> > the

> > > > amsha level) rather than being within a 30 deg. span. of

> > Rasi.

> > > >

> > > > Take an example. If a planet is exlated or in own house in

> > the

> > > > rasi

> > > > chart and attains debilitation in the Navamsa chart, it is

> > > > condiered

> > > > as weakening of the actual strength shown in the Rasi. Why

> > is

> > > > this

> > > > considered so? It is considered like that because, even

> > though

> > > > the

> > > > planet is within its own or exlated rasi, still its

> > > > positioning

> > > > within that particular sector (here navamsa) has weakened

> > it;

> > > > means,

> > > > within its own rasi, this particular sector is the weakest

> > > > point for

> > > > the planet within the strongest rasi; hence it loses its

> > > > strength

> > > > considerably. This means there is a gradation of strengths

> > for

> > > > the

> > > > planet from first navamsa to the last navamsa. The navamsa

> > > > position

> > > > of a planet, thus indicates its refined placement within

> > the

> > > > rasi.

> > > > In fact, Sri KN Rao also gives equal weightage to both the

> > > > Rasi and

> > > > Navamsa placement of a planet. If a planet is weak in one

> > of

> > > > them

> > > > that means half the weightage is lost. We may not give the

> > > > same

> > > > level of treatment to other vargas as we give to Navamsa;

> > but

> > > > Navamsa is as important as the Rasi; to the extent that it

> > can

> > > > be

> > > > viewed as an independent chart (to confirm the promise

> > given

> > > > by the

> > > > rasi chart).

> > > >

> >

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