Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 'Var is a week day, which is definitely a phenomenon imported into India from overseas.' so ravi var is imported som var is imported mangal var is imported budh var is imported guru var is imported sukra var is imported shani var is imported so panchang is imported this is the best howler that i have read in my life!!!! jk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Dear jk ji, Whose words are that? Kaul or Patrecia? or is it somebody else? Of course the first reference of Week days appear in Boudhayana Sulba Sutra; and there is no reference of week days in Vedas; But for sure Week days should have been in use from Sidhu-Saraswati period (Assuming it is the Vedic/Tantric period) and passed to the generations till now. As Chandrahari argues week days itself is based on breath pattern (Prana) and yogic/tantric experience and thus an integral part of not only calendar (astronomy) but also muhurta (astrology). The five limbs of Panchanga : Tidhi, Vara, Karna, Nakshatra, Nityayoga are all important. I have the feeling that for agricultural purpose calculating Tidhi and Nityayoga based on Tropical zodiac should be done than using Sidereal zodiac. But I am no authority on the subject. Love, Sreenadh , " jkhomefood " <jkhomefood wrote: > > 'Var is a week day, which is definitely a phenomenon imported into > India from overseas.' > > so > > ravi var is imported > som var is imported > mangal var is imported > budh var is imported > guru var is imported > sukra var is imported > shani var is imported > > so panchang is imported > > this is the best howler that i have read in my life!!!! > > jk > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 its our kaulji's quotes.veda should be declaring the vars,need to dig and find out the sanskrit slokas.anyways,they are here to stay whether imported or indigenous. jk. , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear jk ji, > Whose words are that? Kaul or Patrecia? or is it somebody else? > Of course the first reference of Week days appear in Boudhayana Sulba > Sutra; and there is no reference of week days in Vedas; But for sure > Week days should have been in use from Sidhu-Saraswati period > (Assuming it is the Vedic/Tantric period) and passed to the > generations till now. As Chandrahari argues week days itself is based > on breath pattern (Prana) and yogic/tantric experience and thus an > integral part of not only calendar (astronomy) but also muhurta > (astrology). The five limbs of Panchanga : Tidhi, Vara, Karna, > Nakshatra, Nityayoga are all important. > I have the feeling that for agricultural purpose calculating Tidhi > and Nityayoga based on Tropical zodiac should be done than using > Sidereal zodiac. But I am no authority on the subject. > Love, > Sreenadh > > , " jkhomefood " > <jkhomefood@> wrote: > > > > 'Var is a week day, which is definitely a phenomenon imported into > > India from overseas.' > > > > so > > > > ravi var is imported > > som var is imported > > mangal var is imported > > budh var is imported > > guru var is imported > > sukra var is imported > > shani var is imported > > > > so panchang is imported > > > > this is the best howler that i have read in my life!!!! > > > > jk > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Dear JK ji, ==> > anyways, they are here to stay whether > imported or indigenous. <== Ha... Ha... Well said! Not only here but through out the world! Influencing them all (yes, even to look for astrology! As an imperishable stamp of an ancient culture!)! But the weak days are no way imported and there is no earlier reference of the same in any other culture (even to support their arguments). The system of weak days born here and got exported to other civilizations like the names of days itself suggests. The names of weak days itself suggest the same. just have a look - to anybody it is clear that all those words are Sanskrit and has a Sanskrit origin. Let any voice try to export them abroad, there is none at the receiving end for that export, and weak days are with their own credibility. Love, Sreenadh , " jkhomefood " <jkhomefood wrote: > > its our kaulji's quotes.veda should be declaring the vars,need to dig > and find out the sanskrit slokas.anyways,they are here to stay whether > imported or indigenous. > > jk. > > , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > Dear jk ji, > > Whose words are that? Kaul or Patrecia? or is it somebody else? > > Of course the first reference of Week days appear in Boudhayana Sulba > > Sutra; and there is no reference of week days in Vedas; But for sure > > Week days should have been in use from Sidhu-Saraswati period > > (Assuming it is the Vedic/Tantric period) and passed to the > > generations till now. As Chandrahari argues week days itself is based > > on breath pattern (Prana) and yogic/tantric experience and thus an > > integral part of not only calendar (astronomy) but also muhurta > > (astrology). The five limbs of Panchanga : Tidhi, Vara, Karna, > > Nakshatra, Nityayoga are all important. > > I have the feeling that for agricultural purpose calculating Tidhi > > and Nityayoga based on Tropical zodiac should be done than using > > Sidereal zodiac. But I am no authority on the subject. > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > > , " jkhomefood " > > <jkhomefood@> wrote: > > > > > > 'Var is a week day, which is definitely a phenomenon imported into > > > India from overseas.' > > > > > > so > > > > > > ravi var is imported > > > som var is imported > > > mangal var is imported > > > budh var is imported > > > guru var is imported > > > sukra var is imported > > > shani var is imported > > > > > > so panchang is imported > > > > > > this is the best howler that i have read in my life!!!! > > > > > > jk > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Dear JK ji, We know well that the Week days names are associated with the astrological concept of 'Kalahora' - The kalahora order is " Arka, Sukra, Budha Chandra, Manda, Jeeva, Dharasuta " . The name of the planet who owns the name of first Kalahora will be assigned to that day. Is is rule that is well known from ancient past and is mentioned in astrological texts. The Yajnavalkya smriti gives the sloka- " Surya Somo MahiputraH Somaputro BrihaspatiH SukraH Sanaischaro RahuH Ketuschaite grahaH smritaH " This sloka is important due to 2 reasons. 1) It is one of the first reference that lists all the 9 planets used in astrology. 2) This sloka list the planets in the same order of weekdays. Notice the order: 1. Surya = Sun (Sunday) 2. Chandra = Moon (Monday) 3. Mahiputra = Mars (Tuesday) 4. Somaputro = Mercury (Wednesday) 3. Brihaspati = Jupitor (Thursday) 4. Sukra = Venus (Friday) 5. Sanaischaro = Saturn (Saterday) Do any other civilization else have any clarity on how the week day names came into existence? Does any body had the system this much integrated with their popular philosophy and knowledge? Refer to these links as well. 1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weekdays#Origin_of_the_seven-day_week 2) http://webexhibits.org/calendars/week.html So there is none at the receiving end and we can sit rest assured, let the exporters try as much as they want. P.S: We have a present example that the Kawri based calculation system present in Kerala for the past many centuries and present in India for long does not have a written record even today (the story told in detail by me earlier in another post), even though thousands know and practice it even today. Then if Yanjchavalkya smriti mentions the week days how old it should be!! Then how old it should be!! Love, Sreenadh , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear JK ji, > ==> > > anyways, they are here to stay whether > > imported or indigenous. > <== > Ha... Ha... Well said! Not only here but through out the world! > Influencing them all (yes, even to look for astrology! As an > imperishable stamp of an ancient culture!)! > But the weak days are no way imported and there is no earlier > reference of the same in any other culture (even to support their > arguments). > The system of weak days born here and got exported to other > civilizations like the names of days itself suggests. > The names of weak days itself suggest the same. just have a look - to > anybody it is clear that all those words are Sanskrit and has a > Sanskrit origin. > > Let any voice try to export them abroad, there is none at the > receiving end for that export, and weak days are with their own > credibility. > Love, > Sreenadh > > , " jkhomefood " > <jkhomefood@> wrote: > > > > its our kaulji's quotes.veda should be declaring the vars,need to dig > > and find out the sanskrit slokas.anyways,they are here to stay whether > > imported or indigenous. > > > > jk. > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear jk ji, > > > Whose words are that? Kaul or Patrecia? or is it somebody else? > > > Of course the first reference of Week days appear in Boudhayana Sulba > > > Sutra; and there is no reference of week days in Vedas; But for sure > > > Week days should have been in use from Sidhu-Saraswati period > > > (Assuming it is the Vedic/Tantric period) and passed to the > > > generations till now. As Chandrahari argues week days itself is based > > > on breath pattern (Prana) and yogic/tantric experience and thus an > > > integral part of not only calendar (astronomy) but also muhurta > > > (astrology). The five limbs of Panchanga : Tidhi, Vara, Karna, > > > Nakshatra, Nityayoga are all important. > > > I have the feeling that for agricultural purpose calculating Tidhi > > > and Nityayoga based on Tropical zodiac should be done than using > > > Sidereal zodiac. But I am no authority on the subject. > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > , " jkhomefood " > > > <jkhomefood@> wrote: > > > > > > > > 'Var is a week day, which is definitely a phenomenon imported into > > > > India from overseas.' > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > ravi var is imported > > > > som var is imported > > > > mangal var is imported > > > > budh var is imported > > > > guru var is imported > > > > sukra var is imported > > > > shani var is imported > > > > > > > > so panchang is imported > > > > > > > > this is the best howler that i have read in my life!!!! > > > > > > > > jk > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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