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Namaste Sri SubbaPlease read comments in blue:Here are the questions from a practical standpoint:Is it possible that he could have committed such serious crimes?

First things first: Exalted Rahu in the lagna and it is a Yogi. This person can deceive to his own benefit. He thinks he can fool anyone. He can be very convincingly be deceptive. I have a chart with me of a Jeweler, who sells a Rs 2000 thing for Rs 20,000 and people buy. People, many a times, swear by his honesty. There, Rahu is exalted in the 2nd house along with other supporting combinations. Mars retrograde for a Gemini Lagna in the 4th house can give a violence prone mind. Venus is exalted and hence could have given him a great sense of love. BUT, Venus is aspected by Mars and Saturn which is known to give deviant sexual behavior. Secondly, Venus is touching its debilitation by being in the nakshatra of Saturn and Saturn is in Virgo - House of debilitation for Venus. Venus is as though debilitated. Venus is an Avayogi and shall bring his downfall.

He believes that he was completely framed, and that his defence

lawyer (appointed by the State) did a poor job. Was miscarriage of

justice possible?Jupiter is in Rahu's nakshatra and so is Moon. Rahu aspects the 9th house, that of Dharma. Chances are he will try and deceive both law and society.

Is an appeal likely to be successful? The chances that the appeal may be entertained seems slim, given the psychiatrist opinion. Are there any remedial measures possible to improve the state of affairs?

Saturn is in the nakshatra of Moon and connected to its exaltation sign. However, Saturn is retrograde and that means a lot of effort will be needed for appeal to be entertained. Saturn dasha is about to begin from 28-07-2007. Saturn can help him gain an appeal, if he genuinely changes within for the better. This may not happen overnight but will take a long time. You'd agree that many people who are so called Great men of Society, have deviant sexual tendencies. I know of a man who has narcissist behavior and is trying to get a ticket in the Congress party. He is touching 60 and sleeps around with a 23 year old girl. He has bribed and played politics in everything that he has done. People think he is very spiritual. I can find umpteen examples. Just that these men aren't caught yet. So the point is - sexual deviant behavior takes a long time to rectify. Is society ready to help this man? Is he ready to help himself? Many such questions will come to one's mind. What if, he is given a chance to improve and he goes ahead and commits a rape and destroy another girl's life? Remedial measures can be suggested to a person who does not try and deceive one's own counsel. He is trying to deceive you itself. If he would genuinely want to improve then, at least he should agree to his own nature first. From an astrological standpoint:What aspects in the chart could indicate such deviant sexual behavior?Already covered in the first question above. What aspects in the chart could indicate such a long prison term?Jupiter-Mars is when he got the prison term. Both are retrograde. One is a markesh and the other is most malefic graha for Gemini lagna. Tula is symbolic of justice and Venus has a major role to play in getting good and bad results. Here the lord of Tula, depositor of Jupiter, is unhappy with the native and shall give poor results. Jupiter's varna is tending towards tamasic. His prison sentence could reduce in the Saturn's mahadasha PROVIDED, he genuinely tries to change and tries to be honest to himself and others for a change. For him it would be very difficult. Does he inherently have psychopathic tendency or is he a victim of circumstances? How does that one judge that?

Is there a way to show that he was sexually abused himself when he was a child? How does one see that?He is not a victim of circumstances, but, he may have been abused through violent beatings in the childhood. However, many children can go through it, not many turn out like this native. A lot depends upon our own choices and thinking. His thinking has been defined by his own choice. Hope this helps. I apologize to enter my analysis especially when the nature of query has turned mature.Thanks and RegardsBharat

On 6/7/07, subba_appa <subba.iyer wrote:

 

 

 

 

Hello Learned astrologers:The native migrated from India to a country, where the laws are very

strict and punishments are severe and in some cases the legal processes

has resulted in a clear miscarriage of justice.

 

The native was accused of molesting several women, assaulting a couple

of women sexually and of a violent rape and all the crimes were

supposedly committed in 6 months. this means he is a serial molester.

 

He stood trial and claimed innocence. He was sentenced to 18 years

imprisonment. This happened in Sa/Ma as per Vimsottari dasa (started

from lagna).

 

I am the appointed counselor for him and during all my interactions, he

comes across as a very intelligent and a sensible person, claiming

innocence. There is definitely some incoherence in his communication

and interaction, but it is difficult to pin it down to his inherent

nature, as someone who can be falsely accused and has to spend his time

in prison can show such behavior.The official rehabilitation officer

also finds him intelligent, though the psychiatrist in charge of the

case has reported (based on his tests) that he is a dangerous

psychopath and it would be a danger to society if he was released.

 

The native's mother is keen on an appeal to the highest court, though

the lawyers have advised her that the appeal may not be successful in

view of the psychiatrist opinion.

 

His chart is interesting. Based on the details available with the

authorities, the chart (D-1)shows 4 planets in exaltation, a Gaja

kesari yoga, and except for the 4H being badly afflicted, it shows a

good chart.

 

Birth details: May 7, 1982, time: 10:01 am, Nagpur, India.

 

Here are the questions from a practical standpoint:

Is it possible that he could have committed such serious crimes?He believes that he was completely framed, and that his defence

lawyer (appointed by the State) did a poor job. Was miscarriage of

justice possible?Is an appeal likely to be successful? The chances that the appeal may be entertained seems slim, given the psychiatrist opinion.Are there any remedial measures possible to improve the state of affairs?

 

 

 

From an astrological standpoint:

What aspects in the chart could indicate such deviant sexual behavior?What aspects in the chart could indicate such a long prison term?Does he inherently have psychopathic tendency or is he a victim of circumstances? How does that one judge that?

Is there a way to show that he was sexually abused himself when he was a child? How does one see that?

 

 

Given the seriousness of the situation, and given that it is a very

interesting case, may I request the learned astrologers give a more

detailed comprehensive response.Thanks

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Dear Chawan ji,

First of all these points are not mine, but from the well reputed

text Prasnamarga. Now let us review your comments-

1)Jupiter in lagna and Mars in 7th house indicates madness.

==>

> Lord Ram (assuming that his horoscope given in many places with

Karka lagna is true) has exalted Jupiter (with moon) in lagna and

exalted mars in 7th house. Now in his horoscope Moon is also in karka

hence two conditions of your rules are satisfied.

> Moon is in Lagna. Mars is in 7th house.

<==

Good. :) But why you forgot that Jupiter and Mars are is exalted?

Further why don't you realize that this horoscope cannot be true

because-

* Sun's position in Aries, Punarvasu star and Navami Thithi cannot

coincide. (If you want we will discuss it in detail - Actually it was

discussed in detail in group once. You can

refer to those posts)

* The horoscope is found only in the southern version of Valmiki

Ramayana.

 

2) Saturn in lagna and mars in 7th house indicates madness.

==>

> In Lord Rama Horocope Exalted Saturn in 4th house. It is

aspecting Lagna from his 10th aspect. Mars is already in 7th house.

So this condition also got satisfied.

<==

I think it is well explained above itself that this derivation is

wrong - the above said points holds good here as well.

* Saturn and Mars are exalted

* The horoscope is wrong

 

==>

> So either the horoscope of Lord Rama is not correct or the rules

are not correct.

<==

First statement you got it right - the horoscope of Lord Rama (given

in Vatmiki Ramayana) is not correct.

Second statement you missed - those rules given for Unmada (psychic

problem) in Prasnamarga are correct (well appreciated by all, through

centuries); and there is not many only 8 rules put forward by the

author of Prasnamarga. It is only that your interpretation and

derivation is wrong - because the process is not expected to be

mechanical. When extra factors (like exaltation) needs to be

considered, you have to.

 

==>

> Once i was discussing the blindness in a horoscope. An astrologer

gave some rules like you gave. I applied those rules. The only

difference is that i was counting aspects to satisfy the rules. That

astrologer said that aspects cant be counted for rules given in

slokas. But i am surprised that you are using all kind of aspects and

permutation and combination to satisfy the rules.

<==

No you are wrong - Once the astrologer is met with the positional

combinations that exactly satisfies the rules, he can look for other

combinations that support the same result even by considering

aspects, because then he can be sure - since the rule " Dwi Tri

Samvada Bhaval " (Two or more factors combinations the same result,

then it can be told/predicted). This is and should be the logic to be

used behind the same.

==>

For the satisfaction of some rules, you also trying to project

navmasha on lagna kundli.

<==

Ha..Ha.. You are utterly wrong! " Projecting Navamsa chart over Lagna

Kundali " is the age old tradition, it is the ONLY tradition for

reading Vargas (divisions) supported by all Rishi horas.

Your SEPERATE D-charts is a well-popularized myth, not support by

any Rishi horas. So don't worry about that. :)

But good work :). Continue your effort to learn astrology in a

systematic and logical way - and always question things. Without

questioning the established notions (if found to defy logic) - one

can not learn.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, Prathamesn Chawan

<upaoakcrest wrote:

>

> Dear Sir Sreenadh

>

> Greetings

>

> Your point number 2.

>

> Jupiter in lagna and Mars in 7th house indicates madness.

>

> Lord Ram (asuming that his horoscope given in many places with

Karka lagna is true) has exalted Jupiter (with moon) in lagna and

exalted mars in 7th house. Now in his horoscope Moon is also in karka

hence two conditions of your rules are satisfied.

>

>

> Moon is in Lagna. Mars is in 7th house. 2nd house is being

aspected by mars because of his special 8th aspect. And if my memory

serves me best then Rahu/Ketu are in 6/12 axis. So 12th house from

moon is also having effect of malific.

>

> So here so far, 3 conditions has been satisfied.

>

> Now your rule 3, Saturn in lagna and mars in 7th house indicates

madness.

>

> In Lord Rama Horocope Exalted Saturn in 4th house. It is

aspecting Lagna from his 10th aspect. Mars is already in 7th house.

So this condition also got satisfied.

>

> So we got 4 conditions satisfying the rule of madness. Hence it

proves that Lord Rama is a mad or psychologically challenged or

insane.

>

> So either the horoscope of Lord Rama is not correct or the rules

are not correct.

>

>

> Unfortunately i have combination of learning Astrology. But so

far i am so dissatisfied of unapplicability of rules. I am 26 years

old. It looks like to me that it will take me life time experience to

understand Astrology.

>

> Once i was discussing the blindness in a horoscope. An astrologer

gave some rules like you gave. I applied those rules. The only

difference is that i was counting aspects to satisfy the rules. That

astrologer said that aspects cant be counted for rules given in

slokas. But i am surprized that you are using all kind of aspects and

permutation and combination to satisfy the rules. For the

satisfaction of some rules, you also trying to project navmasha on

lagna kundli.

>

> Please explain if i am wrong somewhere.

>

>

> Thanks

>

> Jagdish

>

>

>

Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

> --- In

, " Sreenadh "

> <sreesog@> wrote:

>

> Dear Swati,

> I am elabrating the same below in detail.

>

> Combinations of Madness in this horoscope

> =========================================

> How many combinations indicating madness (psychic problem) are

> present in this horoscope? Let us try to answer this question in the

> conventional manner. But before proceeding to the same, I would like

> to attract your attention to a sloka bit that is in popular use in

> South India that is used while deriving predictions based on

combinations.

> The slokas that provide results for Drishi is numerous and therefore

> it is difficult to remember them all. But the slokas used to derive

> results based on Yuti is comparatively less in number, and therefore

> easy to remember. But the fact remains that both in Drishi and Yuti

of

> planets, it is the mixing of significance that occurs. Due to this

the

> an easy solution to derive results would be to consider the general

> advice-

> Yuthya drishi phalam vachyam

> Drishtrya Yuti phalam tatha

> [For Yuti (conjunction) tell the results for Drishti (aspect) also,

> and for Drishti (aspect) tell the results for Yuti (conjunction)

also]

> Application of this sloka makes the derivation of results easier.

> Now let us look at the combinations that can cause Unmada (Madness;

> psychic problem) as given by Prasnamarga (Ch. 12, sloka 31, 32). In

> that sloka 8 combinations are given that can indicate madness.

> 1) While Ju in Lagna if Sa is in 7th it indicates madness.

> 2) While Ju in Lagna if Ma is in 7th it indicates madness.

> 3) While Sa is in Lagna, if Ma is in any of 7-5-9 houses the

> combination indicates madness

> 4) If combust Mo or Me is in Lagna the combination indicates

madness.

> 5) If Weak Mo or Sa in 12th the combination indicates madness.

> 6) If weak Mo with a malefic is placed in any of the houses 1-8-5-9

> then the combination indicates madness

> 7) If Mandi with a malefic is placed in 7th the combination

indicates

> madness.

> 8) If Me is placed in any of the houses 3-6-8-12 the combination

> indicates madness.

> Apart from there other combinations as well that can indicate

madness-

> 9) If Ju placed in 5th is afflicted by strong malifics the

combination

> indicates madness.

> Presence of more than one of these combination in the natal chart

> indicate that the native will become mad in the corresponding

> Dasa-Antara indicated by the planet causing madness.

> With this knowledge, let us look at the above horoscope and see

> whether the horoscope indicates madness.

>

> 1) Combination – 1: Consider the same from Moon Lagna (Libra).

> Ju is in Moon Lagna in Libra satisfying the first condition given

for

> the above combination. Neither Ma is not in 7th from Libra. But Ma

> aspects 7th with its special aspect on 8th. Further a malefic Su is

> present in 7th as well. Thus the conditions put forward by the sloka

> is met, even though not based on Yuti but partially based on aspect.

> This is 2nd yoga indicating Madness in the above horoscope.

> 2) Combination no –2

> In the above horoscope, Ju in not in Lagna but aspect Lagna with its

> special aspect on 9th. Thus it is equivalent to Ju in Lagna. Ma is

not

> present in 7th but Ma aspects 7th with its special aspect on 4th.

This

> is equivalent to Ma in 7th. Thus the conditions put forward by the

> sloka is met, even though not based on Yuti but based on aspect.

Thus

> this combination indicates madness in the above horoscope.

> 3) Combination –3

> Sa is not in Lagna, but Lagna is aspected by Sa, which can be

treated

> as equivalent to Sa in Lagna. Thus half of the condition is

fulfilled.

> Ma is not in 7-5-9. But the navamsa of Ma falls in the 9th house

from

> Lagna. Thus the combination can be considered as fulfilled. This is

> another combination indicating madness in the above horoscope.

> 4) Combination – 5: Consider this combination from Moon Lagna

(Libra)

> Weak Sa (Saturn not aspected by Me or Ju, with not much strength due

> to placement) is placed in 12th from Moon Lagna. Thus the

combination

> is fulfilled. Thus it indicates madness.

> 5) Combination –6

> Mo is placed in 5th as required by the sloka. But the Moon is not

weak

> (having Pakshabala). But note that Moon is held between the strong

> malifics Ma-Sa in 12th from Libra, and Ke in 3rd from Libra. Further

> the 2nd house from Moon is aspected by Sa in 12th making this

> Papamadyasthiti (placed between malifics) condition stronger. Note

> that especially for significators (Moon is the significator of mind)

> hemmed between malifics is considered as destructive, which is true

in

> this case. This has got a double impact since Ju (Significator of

> intelligence, and significator of 5th house) is also placed with Mo.

> Any affliction that may happen to Moon is going to cause double

impact

> in this situation. Thus it should be considered that the combination

> indicated by the sloka as fulfilled. Further note that Ke and Su

> navamsa is in Libra, which indicates eclipse of Moon (conjunction of

> Ke or Ra with Mo is considered as eclipse making Moon weak). Thus

for

> sure it indicates madness.

> 6) Combination – 8

> Me is placed in 12th from Lagna. Thus the combination is satisfied,

> and it indicates madness.

> 7) Combination – 8: Consider this combination from Moon Lagna

(Libra)

> Me is placed in 8th house from Moon Lagna. Thus the combination is

> satisfied, and it indicates madness.

> 8) Combination –9

> Ju is placed in 5th – being the significator of 5th and the

> significator of intelligence, any affliction to the same can have

> double impact, and cause madness. Note that Ju is aspected by a

> malefic Su. But more than this the point to be noted is that Ju is

> hemmed between two strong malifics Sa-Ma in 12th house from Libra,

and

> the aspect of Sa in 2nd house from Libra. (Sa aspects Scorpio with

> its special aspect on 3rd). Further in the 3rd house from Libra also

> we can find only a malefic that is Ke. Note only that Ke and Su

> navamsa also falls in Libra, making the affliction strong.

> Thus in all, following the combinations for madness given in texts

we

> could find at least 8 combinations in the horoscope that fulfills

the

> condition of madness. This is more than enough to prove by " Dwi tri

> samvada bhaval " (If 2 or more combinations indicate the same, that

> result will actulize for sure) that madness will happen. Out of

these

> the combinations that attracted my attention most are –

> • The placement of afflicted Mo-Ju hemmed between malifics in 5th

> (with the sign lord Ve gone to 6th from 5th house and its

debilitated

> navamsa falling in 12th from 5th)

> • Sa-Ma in 4th from Lagna and 12th from Moon sign supporting many

> combinations.

> That is why I went for Ju Dasa Mo Antra, and Sa Dasa Ma Antra, which

> happened to be the probable period of action for these madness

> combinations, indicated by the natal chart. Thus the conclusion, no

> doubt, the native is a psychopath.

>

> Sexual Urge

> ===========

> When a person is mad his strongest inner urges become manifest,

which

> in chart happen to be sexual urges as indicated by –

> • Exalted Ve

> • Ve aspected by Ma (Para yuvatu rata: Interested in other's women)

> • 7th lord Jupiter's navamsa falling in 7th itself.

> • Ve navamsa falling in the same sign as where Ma is placed (Para

> yuvatu rata: Interested in other's women)

> • From Moon Ve in 6th aspected by Mars (Interest in Prostitution)

> Thus the conclusion, this person surely committed those sexual

crimes

> charged against him, in an insane manner, and is a psychopath. It is

> better not to mix up his life success in profession with this

negative

> trend and weakness in his character.

>

> Professional Success

> ====================

> This person is a professional success as indicated by-

> • 10th lord in 5th (Kendra-Trikona)

> • Exalted Ve in 10th

> • 10th lord's navamsa falling in its own house Sagittarius.

> • Significator of 10th Saturn and Mars aspecting 10th house

> • Significator of 10th Su exalted in 11th house

> And so on.

>

> Argala

> ======

> Since we were discussing Argala let us have a look at this chart in

> that point of view as well. Note that 4th and 5th house have

> unobstructed Argala providing positive results for the native for

his

> success, even though the same might have caused destruction to the

> world around him.

> • Ma –Sa in 4th cause Argala: Ve in 10th and Su in 11th (8th from

4th)

> obstruct this, but the obstruction is not strong enough (not

> obstructed by equal number of planets).

> • Ju-Mo in 5th cause Argala: In 9th no planet is present to obstruct

> this. In 12th (8th from 5th) Me is present, but the obstruction is

not

> strong enough.

> Thus these combinations in 4th and 5th has really helped the native

in

> attaining success. It is only the imprisonment indicated by Sa that

> devoid him of this complete success and put him in jail for long. If

> not, uncaught he would have enjoyed the privileges, causing

> destruction and loss to many. Also note that the Argala yoga in 10th

> house (indicating professional success) caused by Ve is completely

> obstructed by Sa-Ma in 4th. Thus his own madness and crimes will put

> an end to his own professional success, tells the horoscope.

>

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " healing spaces "

> <healingspaces@> wrote:

> >

> > Hare Rama Krsna

> > Dear Sreenadhji,

> > Please elaborate on why u consider jupiter and moon to be unmada

> yoga. i see

> > the 5th house of chit and mantrabhva , and jupiter moon as benefic

> planets ,

> > why would they cause unmada. ?

> >

> > * Ju retrograde and is in 5th with Mo providing a powerful unmade

yoga

> > (indicating a psychological patient),

> > Nirvanika

> > Namah shivaya

> >

> >

> > On 6/9/07, Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:

> > >

> > > BT: 7th May 1982, 10.01 AM, Nagpur, India.

> > > Rectified BT: BT: 7th May 1982, 10.02.30 AM, Nagpur, India.

> > > Log: 75 E 25 Lat: 29 N 39

> > > Ayanamsa: True Ayanamsa of Chandrahari (46 min more than Lahari)

> > > Year length used for Dasa calculation: 360 days savanna year

> > >

> > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

> > >

> > > Lagna 25 Ge 30' 30.73 " Puna 2 Ge Ta

> > > Sun - AmK 21 Ar 55' 55.04 " Bhar 3 Ar Li

> > > Moon - MK 12 Li 24' 46.35 " Swat 2 Li Cp

> > > Mars ® - DK 6 Vi 08' 28.66 " UPha 3 Vi Aq

> > > Mercury - BK 13 Ta 00' 45.54 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar

> > > Jupiter ® - PiK 9 Li 40' 29.98 " Swat 1 Li Sg

> > > Venus - PK 8 Pi 36' 59.44 " UBha 2 Pi Vi

> > > Saturn ® - AK 22 Vi 31' 11.63 " Hast 4 Vi Cn

> > > Rahu - GK 22 Ge 07' 45.94 " Puna 1 Ge Ar

> > > Ketu 22 Sg 07' 45.94 " PSha 3 Sg Li

> > > Gulika 19 Ta 29' 37.56 " Rohi 3 Ta Ge

> > > Kunda 26 Ge 11' 29.36 " Puna 2 Ge Ta

> > >

> > > Rectification: For 10.02.30 the Kunda Lagna falls on Punarvasu

(Lagma

> > > sputa star) itself, and therefore, it is assumed that the given

birth

> > > time is correct.

> > > Primary Analysis

> > > ================

> > > * Ve and Su exalted in natal chart, but both Ve and Su

debilitated in

> > > Navamsa.

> > > * Ju retrograde and is in 5th with Mo providing a powerful

unmade yoga

> > > (indicating a psychological patient), in Navamsa Ju is in own

house.

> > > (As per Lahari Ayanamsa Ju is also debilitated in Navamsa)

> > > * Lagna lord in 12th and the navamsa of lagna lord is 12th from

the

> > > sign in which lagna lord is placed (i.e. Lagnadhipa navamsa

falls on

> > > 11th from lagna)

> > > * 4th house afflicted with 2 powerful malifics Ma and Sa,

indicating a

> > > fallen (immoral) individual.

> > > * As indicated by Ju and Mo in 5th and Ve in 10th and Su in

11th, he

> > > would be a successful individual in his early years of life,

like an

> > > over voltage bulb (Ju in 5th – house of intelligence)

> > > * As indicated by Ma-Sa in 4th, born in an culturally fallen,

immoral

> > > poor family, the native attained life success because of his

unique

> > > abilities and successful profession.

> > > * Ve in 10th from Lagna indicates that the native will have

income

> > > from women and job related to them. Sa aspecting Ve also

indicate the

> > > same. Navamsa of 10th lord Ju falls in 7th house (ornaments)

from

> > > Lagna in its own house. Thus the native will have a profession

related

> > > to cloth, ornaments etc used by women, or a business related to

> > > similar things. The native should have attained all kinds of

life

> > > success such as, money, house, vehicles, and every other

possible

> > > luxury with in the period of Ju itself due his success in

profession

> > > during his 20-25 years of age. (Remember that the native is

only 25

> > > years of age now)

> > > * Me in 12th indicates insaneness or madness. Mo – Ju in 5th

aspected

> > > by Su indicates the same. 6th lord Ma in 4th with Sa also

indicate the

> > > same. Thus it is a horoscope with multiple combinations that

indicate

> > > madness or a psychic patient. The results will actualize

(psychic

> > > problem will occur) in Ju Dasa Mo antara or Sa Dasa Mars Antara

(). No

> > > doubt the horoscope is that of a psychopath. As per Vimsottari

dasa

> > > from Moon Aug 2003 – Dec 2004 is Ju-Mo period; As per

Vimsottari dasa

> > > from Lagna April 2004 – May 2005 is Sa-Ma. Thus period of

madness

> > > should be April 2004 – Dec 2004 as indicated by both of them.

The

> > > native's madness should had become uncontrolled and clearly

visible to

> > > the world in this period.

> > > * 8th lord Sa aspecting Lagna, Sa with Ma in 4th, Me in 12th

indicate

> > > a combination for bondage. The native will suffer prison

sentence for

> > > long, possibly though out the Saturn period of 19 years.

> > > * Even the favoring authorities (as indicated by Su in 11th)

can not

> > > help in stopping his fate which is sure to put him in prison

for long.

> > > * Ma-Sa in 4th indicates that the activities of the native

would be

> > > destructive for the society but beneficial to the worldly

success of

> > > the native (till the tide changes). He will not repent and the

trend

> > > will be followed throughout his life.

> > > * The Me desa would be no better than the Sa dasa going through

tides,

> > > turbulences and occasional madness.

> > > * The native will again become famous, well known and

successful only

> > > at the end of his life in Ve dasa. He will follow the same

profession

> > > and will become well known in the same after the age of 65

years.

> > > Remark:

> > > =======

> > > This is the horoscope of a psychopath, with exceptional

intelligence

> > > and professional success. He will for sure suffer the long

prison

> > > sentence for 19 years for sure. His would be a unique life, and

he

> > > will come back to popularity and professional success again in

the

> > > late years of his life. All efforts to avoid the jail sentence

is

> > > futile, remedies will not work, this being a strong result.

> > >

> > > Note: This being a very interesting horoscope with many unique

> > > combinations, I request others to continue the discussion on

the same.

> > > Let us see what other details we can bring out from the same.

> > > Love,

> > > Sreenadh

> > > --- In

> <%

40>,

> > > Panditji

> > > <navagraha@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste,

> > > >

> > > > The lagna is 26 degrees of Mithuna. Lagna is afflicted by

rahu and

> > > shani.

> > > > Shani, mangal and guru are retrograde. Shukra is exalted and

is

> > > aspected by

> > > > shani, with no controling aspect of guru, this can give

strong sex

> > > drive. 4

> > > > malefics are in kendra. Guru is in tula rashi. Shukra, guru

and

> ravi are

> > > > debilited in navansha.

> > > >

> > > > The dasha running is guru-rahu. Not many bad influences on

chadra to

> > > suggest

> > > > mental imbalance. Chadra is in rahu nakshatra, thats the only

> > > negative I can

> > > > say about chandra in rashi. Birth is on poornima so chadra is

> strong.

> > > >

> > > > So, yes there is a strong possibility of elevated sex drive.

> Mangal and

> > > > shani drishti does not help to moderate shukra.

> > > >

> > > > ...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On 6/7/07, subba_appa <subba.iyer@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello Learned astrologers:

> > > > >

> > > > > The native migrated from India to a country, where the laws

> are very

> > > > > strict and punishments are severe and in some cases the

legal

> > > processes has

> > > > > resulted in a clear miscarriage of justice.

> > > > >

> > > > > The native was accused of molesting several women,

assaulting a

> > > couple of

> > > > > women sexually and of a violent rape and all the crimes were

> > > supposedly

> > > > > committed in 6 months. this means he is a serial molester.

> > > > >

> > > > > He stood trial and claimed innocence. He was sentenced to

18 years

> > > > > imprisonment. This happened in Sa/Ma as per Vimsottari dasa

> > > (started from

> > > > > lagna).

> > > > >

> > > > > I am the appointed counselor for him and during all my

> > > interactions, he

> > > > > comes across as a very intelligent and a sensible person,

claiming

> > > > > innocence. There is definitely some incoherence in his

> > > communication and

> > > > > interaction, but it is difficult to pin it down to his

inherent

> > > nature, as

> > > > > someone who can be falsely accused and has to spend his

time in

> > > prison can

> > > > > show such behavior.The official rehabilitation officer also

> finds him

> > > > > intelligent, though the psychiatrist in charge of the case

has

> > > reported

> > > > > (based on his tests) that he is a dangerous psychopath and

it

> > > would be a

> > > > > danger to society if he was released.

> > > > >

> > > > > The native's mother is keen on an appeal to the highest

court,

> > > though the

> > > > > lawyers have advised her that the appeal may not be

successful in

> > > view of

> > > > > the psychiatrist opinion.

> > > > >

> > > > > His chart is interesting. Based on the details available

with the

> > > > > authorities, the chart (D-1)shows 4 planets in exaltation,

a Gaja

> > > kesari

> > > > > yoga, and except for the 4H being badly afflicted, it shows

a good

> > > chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > *Birth details: May 7, 1982, time: 10:01 am, Nagpur, India.

*

> > > > >

> > > > > *Here are the questions from a practical standpoint:*

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Is it possible that he could have committed such serious

> crimes?

> > > > > 2. He believes that he was completely framed, and that his

defence

> > > > > lawyer (appointed by the State) did a poor job. Was

miscarriage

> > > of justice

> > > > > possible?

> > > > > 3. Is an appeal likely to be successful? The chances that

the

> > > appeal

> > > > > may be entertained seems slim, given the psychiatrist

opinion.

> > > > > 4. Are there any remedial measures possible to improve the

> state of

> > > > > affairs?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > *From an astrological standpoint:*

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. What aspects in the chart could indicate such deviant

sexual

> > > > > behavior?

> > > > > 2. What aspects in the chart could indicate such a long

prison

> > > term?

> > > > > 3. Does he inherently have psychopathic tendency or is he a

victim

> > > > > of circumstances? How does that one judge that?

> > > > > 4. Is there a way to show that he was sexually abused

himself when

> > > > > he was a child? How does one see that?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Given the seriousness of the situation, and given that it

is a

> very

> > > > > interesting case, may I request the learned astrologers

give a

> > > more detailed

> > > > > comprehensive response.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

> --- End forwarded message ---

 

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Respected Sirs,

 

My cousin's chart is much similar to the analysed chart. Can you

have a look at it and tell me why he is not a psychic? Or is there a

possibility of this person becoming insane at any point of time in

future?

 

My cousin's details:

 

DOB: Feb 23, 1982,

TOB: 3.30pm

Place: Kanhangad, Kasargod district.

 

He too is Gemini Lagna, has Jupiter in 5th, Mars & Saturn in 4th.

Moreover his benefics Mercury & Venus are in 8th, Amavasi yoga in

9th, and Rahu - Ketu axis is lagna-seventh. Shouldnt this be a

worser chart as per the conditions mentioned in the analysis?I am

unable to find out the reason.

 

With respects,

JL

 

 

, rk dash

<arkaydash wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadh,

> Good and systematic. Good because systematic. Will surely chip

in my two penny worth of analysis soon. Am taking a copy of the

version of the chart you provide.

>

> More soon,

>

> RK

>

>

> Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

> BT: 7th May 1982, 10.01 AM, Nagpur, India.

> Rectified BT: BT: 7th May 1982, 10.02.30 AM, Nagpur, India.

> Log: 75 E 25 Lat: 29 N 39

> Ayanamsa: True Ayanamsa of Chandrahari (46 min more than Lahari)

> Year length used for Dasa calculation: 360 days savanna year

>

> Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

>

> Lagna 25 Ge 30' 30.73 " Puna 2 Ge Ta

> Sun - AmK 21 Ar 55' 55.04 " Bhar 3 Ar Li

> Moon - MK 12 Li 24' 46.35 " Swat 2 Li Cp

> Mars ® - DK 6 Vi 08' 28.66 " UPha 3 Vi Aq

> Mercury - BK 13 Ta 00' 45.54 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar

> Jupiter ® - PiK 9 Li 40' 29.98 " Swat 1 Li Sg

> Venus - PK 8 Pi 36' 59.44 " UBha 2 Pi Vi

> Saturn ® - AK 22 Vi 31' 11.63 " Hast 4 Vi Cn

> Rahu - GK 22 Ge 07' 45.94 " Puna 1 Ge Ar

> Ketu 22 Sg 07' 45.94 " PSha 3 Sg Li

> Gulika 19 Ta 29' 37.56 " Rohi 3 Ta Ge

> Kunda 26 Ge 11' 29.36 " Puna 2 Ge Ta

>

> Rectification: For 10.02.30 the Kunda Lagna falls on Punarvasu

(Lagma

> sputa star) itself, and therefore, it is assumed that the given

birth

> time is correct.

> Primary Analysis

> ================

> * Ve and Su exalted in natal chart, but both Ve and Su debilitated

in

> Navamsa.

> * Ju retrograde and is in 5th with Mo providing a powerful unmade

yoga

> (indicating a psychological patient), in Navamsa Ju is in own

house.

> (As per Lahari Ayanamsa Ju is also debilitated in Navamsa)

> * Lagna lord in 12th and the navamsa of lagna lord is 12th from the

> sign in which lagna lord is placed (i.e. Lagnadhipa navamsa falls

on

> 11th from lagna)

> * 4th house afflicted with 2 powerful malifics Ma and Sa,

indicating a

> fallen (immoral) individual.

> * As indicated by Ju and Mo in 5th and Ve in 10th and Su in 11th,

he

> would be a successful individual in his early years of life, like

an

> over voltage bulb (Ju in 5th – house of intelligence)

> * As indicated by Ma-Sa in 4th, born in an culturally fallen,

immoral

> poor family, the native attained life success because of his unique

> abilities and successful profession.

> * Ve in 10th from Lagna indicates that the native will have income

> from women and job related to them. Sa aspecting Ve also indicate

the

> same. Navamsa of 10th lord Ju falls in 7th house (ornaments) from

> Lagna in its own house. Thus the native will have a profession

related

> to cloth, ornaments etc used by women, or a business related to

> similar things. The native should have attained all kinds of life

> success such as, money, house, vehicles, and every other possible

> luxury with in the period of Ju itself due his success in

profession

> during his 20-25 years of age. (Remember that the native is only 25

> years of age now)

> * Me in 12th indicates insaneness or madness. Mo – Ju in 5th

aspected

> by Su indicates the same. 6th lord Ma in 4th with Sa also indicate

the

> same. Thus it is a horoscope with multiple combinations that

indicate

> madness or a psychic patient. The results will actualize (psychic

> problem will occur) in Ju Dasa Mo antara or Sa Dasa Mars Antara

(). No

> doubt the horoscope is that of a psychopath. As per Vimsottari dasa

> from Moon Aug 2003 – Dec 2004 is Ju-Mo period; As per Vimsottari

dasa

> from Lagna April 2004 – May 2005 is Sa-Ma. Thus period of madness

> should be April 2004 – Dec 2004 as indicated by both of them. The

> native's madness should had become uncontrolled and clearly

visible to

> the world in this period.

> * 8th lord Sa aspecting Lagna, Sa with Ma in 4th, Me in 12th

indicate

> a combination for bondage. The native will suffer prison sentence

for

> long, possibly though out the Saturn period of 19 years.

> * Even the favoring authorities (as indicated by Su in 11th) can

not

> help in stopping his fate which is sure to put him in prison for

long.

> * Ma-Sa in 4th indicates that the activities of the native would be

> destructive for the society but beneficial to the worldly success

of

> the native (till the tide changes). He will not repent and the

trend

> will be followed throughout his life.

> * The Me desa would be no better than the Sa dasa going through

tides,

> turbulences and occasional madness.

> * The native will again become famous, well known and successful

only

> at the end of his life in Ve dasa. He will follow the same

profession

> and will become well known in the same after the age of 65 years.

> Remark:

> =======

> This is the horoscope of a psychopath, with exceptional

intelligence

> and professional success. He will for sure suffer the long prison

> sentence for 19 years for sure. His would be a unique life, and he

> will come back to popularity and professional success again in the

> late years of his life. All efforts to avoid the jail sentence is

> futile, remedies will not work, this being a strong result.

>

> Note: This being a very interesting horoscope with many unique

> combinations, I request others to continue the discussion on the

same.

> Let us see what other details we can bring out from the same.

> Love,

> Sreenadh

> , Panditji

> <navagraha@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > The lagna is 26 degrees of Mithuna. Lagna is afflicted by rahu

and

> shani.

> > Shani, mangal and guru are retrograde. Shukra is exalted and is

> aspected by

> > shani, with no controling aspect of guru, this can give strong

sex

> drive. 4

> > malefics are in kendra. Guru is in tula rashi. Shukra, guru and

ravi are

> > debilited in navansha.

> >

> > The dasha running is guru-rahu. Not many bad influences on

chadra to

> suggest

> > mental imbalance. Chadra is in rahu nakshatra, thats the only

> negative I can

> > say about chandra in rashi. Birth is on poornima so chadra is

strong.

> >

> > So, yes there is a strong possibility of elevated sex drive.

Mangal and

> > shani drishti does not help to moderate shukra.

> >

> > ...

> >

> >

> > On 6/7/07, subba_appa <subba.iyer@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello Learned astrologers:

> > >

> > > The native migrated from India to a country, where the laws

are very

> > > strict and punishments are severe and in some cases the legal

> processes has

> > > resulted in a clear miscarriage of justice.

> > >

> > > The native was accused of molesting several women, assaulting a

> couple of

> > > women sexually and of a violent rape and all the crimes were

> supposedly

> > > committed in 6 months. this means he is a serial molester.

> > >

> > > He stood trial and claimed innocence. He was sentenced to 18

years

> > > imprisonment. This happened in Sa/Ma as per Vimsottari dasa

> (started from

> > > lagna).

> > >

> > > I am the appointed counselor for him and during all my

> interactions, he

> > > comes across as a very intelligent and a sensible person,

claiming

> > > innocence. There is definitely some incoherence in his

> communication and

> > > interaction, but it is difficult to pin it down to his inherent

> nature, as

> > > someone who can be falsely accused and has to spend his time in

> prison can

> > > show such behavior.The official rehabilitation officer also

finds him

> > > intelligent, though the psychiatrist in charge of the case has

> reported

> > > (based on his tests) that he is a dangerous psychopath and it

> would be a

> > > danger to society if he was released.

> > >

> > > The native's mother is keen on an appeal to the highest court,

> though the

> > > lawyers have advised her that the appeal may not be successful

in

> view of

> > > the psychiatrist opinion.

> > >

> > > His chart is interesting. Based on the details available with

the

> > > authorities, the chart (D-1)shows 4 planets in exaltation, a

Gaja

> kesari

> > > yoga, and except for the 4H being badly afflicted, it shows a

good

> chart.

> > >

> > > *Birth details: May 7, 1982, time: 10:01 am, Nagpur, India. *

> > >

> > > *Here are the questions from a practical standpoint:*

> > >

> > > 1. Is it possible that he could have committed such serious

crimes?

> > > 2. He believes that he was completely framed, and that his

defence

> > > lawyer (appointed by the State) did a poor job. Was miscarriage

> of justice

> > > possible?

> > > 3. Is an appeal likely to be successful? The chances that the

> appeal

> > > may be entertained seems slim, given the psychiatrist opinion.

> > > 4. Are there any remedial measures possible to improve the

state of

> > > affairs?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > *From an astrological standpoint:*

> > >

> > > 1. What aspects in the chart could indicate such deviant sexual

> > > behavior?

> > > 2. What aspects in the chart could indicate such a long prison

> term?

> > > 3. Does he inherently have psychopathic tendency or is he a

victim

> > > of circumstances? How does that one judge that?

> > > 4. Is there a way to show that he was sexually abused himself

when

> > > he was a child? How does one see that?

> > >

> > >

> > > Given the seriousness of the situation, and given that it is a

very

> > > interesting case, may I request the learned astrologers give a

> more detailed

> > > comprehensive response.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

 

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Hi, In your cousins chart, Ju is Not Retrograde in 5H of Mind Neither Moon, the Karaka for Mind, conjoins with Retrograde 6L of disease , reckoned from Moon sign , in H5 from Ascendant like the other chart Do you get it steeve ? Msripaadam <sripaadam wrote: Respected Sirs,My cousin's chart is much similar to the analysed chart. Can you have a look at it and tell me why he is not a psychic? Or is there a possibility of this person becoming insane at any point of time in future? My cousin's details:DOB: Feb 23, 1982,TOB: 3.30pmPlace: Kanhangad, Kasargod district. He too is Gemini Lagna, has Jupiter in 5th, Mars & Saturn in 4th. Moreover his benefics Mercury & Venus are in 8th, Amavasi yoga in 9th, and Rahu - Ketu axis is lagna-seventh. Shouldnt this be a worser chart as per the conditions mentioned in the analysis?I am unable to find out the reason. With respects,JL , rk dash <arkaydash wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh,> Good and systematic. Good because systematic. Will surely

chip in my two penny worth of analysis soon. Am taking a copy of the version of the chart you provide.> > More soon,> > RK> > > Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:> BT: 7th May 1982, 10.01 AM, Nagpur, India.> Rectified BT: BT: 7th May 1982, 10.02.30 AM, Nagpur, India.> Log: 75 E 25 Lat: 29 N 39> Ayanamsa: True Ayanamsa of Chandrahari (46 min more than Lahari)> Year length used for Dasa calculation: 360 days savanna year> > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa> > Lagna 25 Ge 30' 30.73" Puna 2 Ge Ta> Sun - AmK 21 Ar 55' 55.04" Bhar 3 Ar Li> Moon - MK 12 Li 24' 46.35" Swat 2 Li Cp> Mars ® - DK 6 Vi 08' 28.66" UPha 3 Vi Aq> Mercury - BK 13 Ta 00' 45.54" Rohi 1 Ta Ar> Jupiter ® - PiK 9 Li 40' 29.98" Swat 1 Li Sg> Venus - PK 8 Pi 36' 59.44" UBha 2 Pi Vi> Saturn ® - AK 22 Vi 31' 11.63" Hast 4 Vi

Cn> Rahu - GK 22 Ge 07' 45.94" Puna 1 Ge Ar> Ketu 22 Sg 07' 45.94" PSha 3 Sg Li> Gulika 19 Ta 29' 37.56" Rohi 3 Ta Ge> Kunda 26 Ge 11' 29.36" Puna 2 Ge Ta> > Rectification: For 10.02.30 the Kunda Lagna falls on Punarvasu (Lagma> sputa star) itself, and therefore, it is assumed that the given birth> time is correct. > Primary Analysis> ================> * Ve and Su exalted in natal chart, but both Ve and Su debilitated in> Navamsa. > * Ju retrograde and is in 5th with Mo providing a powerful unmade yoga> (indicating a psychological patient), in Navamsa Ju is in own house.> (As per Lahari Ayanamsa Ju is also debilitated in Navamsa) > * Lagna lord in 12th and the navamsa of lagna lord is 12th from the> sign in which lagna lord is placed (i.e. Lagnadhipa navamsa falls on> 11th from lagna)> * 4th house afflicted with 2

powerful malifics Ma and Sa, indicating a> fallen (immoral) individual.> * As indicated by Ju and Mo in 5th and Ve in 10th and Su in 11th, he> would be a successful individual in his early years of life, like an> over voltage bulb (Ju in 5th – house of intelligence)> * As indicated by Ma-Sa in 4th, born in an culturally fallen, immoral> poor family, the native attained life success because of his unique> abilities and successful profession.> * Ve in 10th from Lagna indicates that the native will have income> from women and job related to them. Sa aspecting Ve also indicate the> same. Navamsa of 10th lord Ju falls in 7th house (ornaments) from> Lagna in its own house. Thus the native will have a profession related> to cloth, ornaments etc used by women, or a business related to> similar things. The native should have attained all kinds of life> success

such as, money, house, vehicles, and every other possible> luxury with in the period of Ju itself due his success in profession> during his 20-25 years of age. (Remember that the native is only 25> years of age now) > * Me in 12th indicates insaneness or madness. Mo – Ju in 5th aspected> by Su indicates the same. 6th lord Ma in 4th with Sa also indicate the> same. Thus it is a horoscope with multiple combinations that indicate> madness or a psychic patient. The results will actualize (psychic> problem will occur) in Ju Dasa Mo antara or Sa Dasa Mars Antara (). No> doubt the horoscope is that of a psychopath. As per Vimsottari dasa> from Moon Aug 2003 – Dec 2004 is Ju-Mo period; As per Vimsottari dasa> from Lagna April 2004 – May 2005 is Sa-Ma. Thus period of madness> should be April 2004 – Dec 2004 as indicated by both of them. The> native's madness should had

become uncontrolled and clearly visible to> the world in this period. > * 8th lord Sa aspecting Lagna, Sa with Ma in 4th, Me in 12th indicate> a combination for bondage. The native will suffer prison sentence for> long, possibly though out the Saturn period of 19 years. > * Even the favoring authorities (as indicated by Su in 11th) can not> help in stopping his fate which is sure to put him in prison for long.> * Ma-Sa in 4th indicates that the activities of the native would be> destructive for the society but beneficial to the worldly success of> the native (till the tide changes). He will not repent and the trend> will be followed throughout his life.> * The Me desa would be no better than the Sa dasa going through tides,> turbulences and occasional madness.> * The native will again become famous, well known and successful only> at the end

of his life in Ve dasa. He will follow the same profession> and will become well known in the same after the age of 65 years.> Remark:> =======> This is the horoscope of a psychopath, with exceptional intelligence> and professional success. He will for sure suffer the long prison> sentence for 19 years for sure. His would be a unique life, and he> will come back to popularity and professional success again in the> late years of his life. All efforts to avoid the jail sentence is> futile, remedies will not work, this being a strong result.> > Note: This being a very interesting horoscope with many unique> combinations, I request others to continue the discussion on the same.> Let us see what other details we can bring out from the same. > Love,> Sreenadh> , Panditji> <navagraha@> wrote:> >> > Namaste,> > > > The lagna is 26 degrees of Mithuna. Lagna is afflicted by rahu and> shani.> > Shani, mangal and guru are retrograde. Shukra is exalted and is> aspected by> > shani, with no controling aspect of guru, this can give strong sex> drive. 4> > malefics are in kendra. Guru is in tula rashi. Shukra, guru and ravi are> > debilited in navansha.> > > > The dasha running is guru-rahu. Not many bad influences on chadra to> suggest> > mental imbalance. Chadra is in rahu nakshatra, thats the only> negative I can> > say about chandra in rashi. Birth is on poornima so chadra is strong.> > > > So, yes there is a strong

possibility of elevated sex drive. Mangal and> > shani drishti does not help to moderate shukra.> > > > ...> > > > > > On 6/7/07, subba_appa <subba.iyer@> wrote:> > >> > > Hello Learned astrologers:> > >> > > The native migrated from India to a country, where the laws are very> > > strict and punishments are severe and in some cases the legal> processes has> > > resulted in a clear miscarriage of justice.> > >> > > The native was accused of molesting several women, assaulting a> couple of> > > women sexually and of a violent rape and all the crimes were> supposedly> > > committed in 6 months. this means he is a serial molester.> > >> > > He stood trial and claimed innocence. He was sentenced to 18 years> >

> imprisonment. This happened in Sa/Ma as per Vimsottari dasa> (started from> > > lagna).> > >> > > I am the appointed counselor for him and during all my> interactions, he> > > comes across as a very intelligent and a sensible person, claiming> > > innocence. There is definitely some incoherence in his> communication and> > > interaction, but it is difficult to pin it down to his inherent> nature, as> > > someone who can be falsely accused and has to spend his time in> prison can> > > show such behavior.The official rehabilitation officer also finds him> > > intelligent, though the psychiatrist in charge of the case has> reported> > > (based on his tests) that he is a dangerous psychopath and it> would be a> > > danger to society if he was released.> >

>> > > The native's mother is keen on an appeal to the highest court,> though the> > > lawyers have advised her that the appeal may not be successful in> view of> > > the psychiatrist opinion.> > >> > > His chart is interesting. Based on the details available with the> > > authorities, the chart (D-1)shows 4 planets in exaltation, a Gaja> kesari> > > yoga, and except for the 4H being badly afflicted, it shows a good> chart.> > >> > > *Birth details: May 7, 1982, time: 10:01 am, Nagpur, India. *> > >> > > *Here are the questions from a practical standpoint:*> > >> > > 1. Is it possible that he could have committed such serious crimes?> > > 2. He believes that he was completely framed, and that his defence> > > lawyer (appointed

by the State) did a poor job. Was miscarriage> of justice> > > possible?> > > 3. Is an appeal likely to be successful? The chances that the> appeal> > > may be entertained seems slim, given the psychiatrist opinion.> > > 4. Are there any remedial measures possible to improve the state of> > > affairs?> > >> > >> > >> > > *From an astrological standpoint:*> > >> > > 1. What aspects in the chart could indicate such deviant sexual> > > behavior?> > > 2. What aspects in the chart could indicate such a long prison> term?> > > 3. Does he inherently have psychopathic tendency or is he a victim> > > of circumstances? How does that one judge that?> > > 4. Is there a way to show that he was sexually abused himself when> > > he was a

child? How does one see that?> > >> > >> > > Given the seriousness of the situation, and given that it is a very> > > interesting case, may I request the learned astrologers give a> more detailed> > > comprehensive response.> > >> > > Thanks> > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Looking for people who are YOUR TYPE? Find them here!>

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Sreenadhji,

 

Any comments on this chart. Also could you please elaborate the kunda method of rectification.

 

Thanks

 

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BT: 7th May 1982, 10.01 AM, Nagpur, India.Rectified BT: BT: 7th May 1982, 10.02.30 AM, Nagpur, India.Log: 75 E 25 Lat: 29 N 39Ayanamsa: True Ayanamsa of Chandrahari (46 min more than Lahari)Year length used for Dasa calculation: 360 days savanna year

Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi NavamsaLagna 25 Ge 30' 30.73 " Puna 2 Ge TaSun - AmK 21 Ar 55' 55.04 " Bhar 3 Ar LiMoon - MK 12 Li 24' 46.35 " Swat 2 Li CpMars ® - DK 6 Vi 08' 28.66 " UPha 3 Vi AqMercury - BK 13 Ta 00' 45.54 " Rohi 1 Ta ArJupiter ® - PiK 9 Li 40' 29.98 " Swat 1 Li SgVenus - PK 8 Pi 36' 59.44 " UBha 2 Pi ViSaturn ® - AK 22 Vi 31' 11.63 " Hast 4 Vi CnRahu - GK 22 Ge 07' 45.94 " Puna 1 Ge ArKetu 22 Sg 07' 45.94 " PSha 3 Sg LiGulika 19 Ta 29' 37.56 " Rohi 3 Ta GeKunda 26 Ge 11' 29.36 " Puna 2 Ge Ta

Rectification: For 10.02.30 the Kunda Lagna falls on Punarvasu (Lagmasputa star) itself, and therefore, it is assumed that the given birthtime is correct. Primary Analysis================* Ve and Su exalted in natal chart, but both Ve and Su debilitated in

Navamsa. * Ju retrograde and is in 5th with Mo providing a powerful unmade yoga(indicating a psychological patient), in Navamsa Ju is in own house.(As per Lahari Ayanamsa Ju is also debilitated in Navamsa) * Lagna lord in 12th and the navamsa of lagna lord is 12th from thesign in which lagna lord is placed (i.e. Lagnadhipa navamsa falls on11th from lagna)* 4th house afflicted with 2 powerful malifics Ma and Sa, indicating a

fallen (immoral) individual.* As indicated by Ju and Mo in 5th and Ve in 10th and Su in 11th, hewould be a successful individual in his early years of life, like anover voltage bulb (Ju in 5th – house of intelligence)

* As indicated by Ma-Sa in 4th, born in an culturally fallen, immoralpoor family, the native attained life success because of his uniqueabilities and successful profession.* Ve in 10th from Lagna indicates that the native will have income

from women and job related to them. Sa aspecting Ve also indicate thesame. Navamsa of 10th lord Ju falls in 7th house (ornaments) fromLagna in its own house. Thus the native will have a profession relatedto cloth, ornaments etc used by women, or a business related to

similar things. The native should have attained all kinds of lifesuccess such as, money, house, vehicles, and every other possibleluxury with in the period of Ju itself due his success in professionduring his 20-25 years of age. (Remember that the native is only 25

years of age now) * Me in 12th indicates insaneness or madness. Mo – Ju in 5th aspectedby Su indicates the same. 6th lord Ma in 4th with Sa also indicate thesame. Thus it is a horoscope with multiple combinations that indicate

madness or a psychic patient. The results will actualize (psychicproblem will occur) in Ju Dasa Mo antara or Sa Dasa Mars Antara (). Nodoubt the horoscope is that of a psychopath. As per Vimsottari dasafrom Moon Aug 2003 – Dec 2004 is Ju-Mo period; As per Vimsottari dasa

from Lagna April 2004 – May 2005 is Sa-Ma. Thus period of madnessshould be April 2004 – Dec 2004 as indicated by both of them. Thenative's madness should had become uncontrolled and clearly visible tothe world in this period. * 8th lord Sa aspecting Lagna, Sa with Ma in 4th, Me in 12th indicatea combination for bondage. The native will suffer prison sentence forlong, possibly though out the Saturn period of 19 years. * Even the favoring authorities (as indicated by Su in 11th) can not

help in stopping his fate which is sure to put him in prison for long.* Ma-Sa in 4th indicates that the activities of the native would bedestructive for the society but beneficial to the worldly success of

the native (till the tide changes). He will not repent and the trendwill be followed throughout his life.* The Me desa would be no better than the Sa dasa going through tides,turbulences and occasional madness.

* The native will again become famous, well known and successful onlyat the end of his life in Ve dasa. He will follow the same professionand will become well known in the same after the age of 65 years.Remark:

=======This is the horoscope of a psychopath, with exceptional intelligenceand professional success. He will for sure suffer the long prisonsentence for 19 years for sure. His would be a unique life, and he

will come back to popularity and professional success again in thelate years of his life. All efforts to avoid the jail sentence isfutile, remedies will not work, this being a strong result.Note: This being a very interesting horoscope with many unique

combinations, I request others to continue the discussion on the same.Let us see what other details we can bring out from the same. Love,Sreenadh

, Panditji<navagraha wrote:>> Namaste,> > The lagna is 26 degrees of Mithuna. Lagna is afflicted by rahu andshani.

> Shani, mangal and guru are retrograde. Shukra is exalted and isaspected by> shani, with no controling aspect of guru, this can give strong sexdrive. 4> malefics are in kendra. Guru is in tula rashi. Shukra, guru and ravi are

> debilited in navansha.> > The dasha running is guru-rahu. Not many bad influences on chadra tosuggest> mental imbalance. Chadra is in rahu nakshatra, thats the onlynegative I can> say about chandra in rashi. Birth is on poornima so chadra is strong.

> > So, yes there is a strong possibility of elevated sex drive. Mangal and> shani drishti does not help to moderate shukra.> > ...> >

> On 6/7/07, subba_appa <subba.iyer wrote:> >> > Hello Learned astrologers:> >> > The native migrated from India to a country, where the laws are very

> > strict and punishments are severe and in some cases the legalprocesses has> > resulted in a clear miscarriage of justice.> >> > The native was accused of molesting several women, assaulting a

couple of> > women sexually and of a violent rape and all the crimes weresupposedly> > committed in 6 months. this means he is a serial molester.> >> > He stood trial and claimed innocence. He was sentenced to 18 years

> > imprisonment. This happened in Sa/Ma as per Vimsottari dasa(started from> > lagna).> >> > I am the appointed counselor for him and during all myinteractions, he> > comes across as a very intelligent and a sensible person, claiming

> > innocence. There is definitely some incoherence in hiscommunication and> > interaction, but it is difficult to pin it down to his inherentnature, as> > someone who can be falsely accused and has to spend his time in

prison can> > show such behavior.The official rehabilitation officer also finds him> > intelligent, though the psychiatrist in charge of the case hasreported> > (based on his tests) that he is a dangerous psychopath and it

would be a> > danger to society if he was released.> >> > The native's mother is keen on an appeal to the highest court,though the> > lawyers have advised her that the appeal may not be successful in

view of> > the psychiatrist opinion.> >> > His chart is interesting. Based on the details available with the> > authorities, the chart (D-1)shows 4 planets in exaltation, a Gaja

kesari> > yoga, and except for the 4H being badly afflicted, it shows a goodchart.> >> > *Birth details: May 7, 1982, time: 10:01 am, Nagpur, India. *> >> > *Here are the questions from a practical standpoint:*

> >> > 1. Is it possible that he could have committed such serious crimes?> > 2. He believes that he was completely framed, and that his defence> > lawyer (appointed by the State) did a poor job. Was miscarriage

of justice> > possible?> > 3. Is an appeal likely to be successful? The chances that theappeal> > may be entertained seems slim, given the psychiatrist opinion.

> > 4. Are there any remedial measures possible to improve the state of> > affairs?> >> >> >> > *From an astrological standpoint:*> >> > 1. What aspects in the chart could indicate such deviant sexual

> > behavior?> > 2. What aspects in the chart could indicate such a long prisonterm?> > 3. Does he inherently have psychopathic tendency or is he a victim> > of circumstances? How does that one judge that?

> > 4. Is there a way to show that he was sexually abused himself when> > he was a child? How does one see that?> >> >> > Given the seriousness of the situation, and given that it is a very

> > interesting case, may I request the learned astrologers give amore detailed> > comprehensive response.> >> > Thanks> >> > > >>

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Dear Pandit ji,

Yes, it is time that we should go back to normal astrological

discussions. Today I was engaged in completing one article [yes, in

sequence with the current unending story of replying to Kaul :)],

and will post it today (a pdf doc).

From tomorrow onwards we will start with this chart itself. Of

course in the next post I will clarify the Kunda rectification

method as well.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, Panditji

<navagraha wrote:

>

> Sreenadhji,

>

> Any comments on this chart. Also could you please elaborate the

kunda method

> of rectification.

>

> Thanks

>

> ...

>

>

> On 6/9/07, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

> >

> > BT: 7th May 1982, 10.01 AM, Nagpur, India.

> > Rectified BT: BT: 7th May 1982, 10.02.30 AM, Nagpur, India.

> > Log: 75 E 25 Lat: 29 N 39

> > Ayanamsa: True Ayanamsa of Chandrahari (46 min more than Lahari)

> > Year length used for Dasa calculation: 360 days savanna year

> >

> > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

> >

> > Lagna 25 Ge 30' 30.73 " Puna 2 Ge Ta

> > Sun - AmK 21 Ar 55' 55.04 " Bhar 3 Ar Li

> > Moon - MK 12 Li 24' 46.35 " Swat 2 Li Cp

> > Mars ® - DK 6 Vi 08' 28.66 " UPha 3 Vi Aq

> > Mercury - BK 13 Ta 00' 45.54 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar

> > Jupiter ® - PiK 9 Li 40' 29.98 " Swat 1 Li Sg

> > Venus - PK 8 Pi 36' 59.44 " UBha 2 Pi Vi

> > Saturn ® - AK 22 Vi 31' 11.63 " Hast 4 Vi Cn

> > Rahu - GK 22 Ge 07' 45.94 " Puna 1 Ge Ar

> > Ketu 22 Sg 07' 45.94 " PSha 3 Sg Li

> > Gulika 19 Ta 29' 37.56 " Rohi 3 Ta Ge

> > Kunda 26 Ge 11' 29.36 " Puna 2 Ge Ta

> >

> > Rectification: For 10.02.30 the Kunda Lagna falls on Punarvasu

(Lagma

> > sputa star) itself, and therefore, it is assumed that the given

birth

> > time is correct.

> > Primary Analysis

> > ================

> > * Ve and Su exalted in natal chart, but both Ve and Su

debilitated in

> > Navamsa.

> > * Ju retrograde and is in 5th with Mo providing a powerful

unmade yoga

> > (indicating a psychological patient), in Navamsa Ju is in own

house.

> > (As per Lahari Ayanamsa Ju is also debilitated in Navamsa)

> > * Lagna lord in 12th and the navamsa of lagna lord is 12th from

the

> > sign in which lagna lord is placed (i.e. Lagnadhipa navamsa

falls on

> > 11th from lagna)

> > * 4th house afflicted with 2 powerful malifics Ma and Sa,

indicating a

> > fallen (immoral) individual.

> > * As indicated by Ju and Mo in 5th and Ve in 10th and Su in

11th, he

> > would be a successful individual in his early years of life,

like an

> > over voltage bulb (Ju in 5th – house of intelligence)

> > * As indicated by Ma-Sa in 4th, born in an culturally fallen,

immoral

> > poor family, the native attained life success because of his

unique

> > abilities and successful profession.

> > * Ve in 10th from Lagna indicates that the native will have

income

> > from women and job related to them. Sa aspecting Ve also

indicate the

> > same. Navamsa of 10th lord Ju falls in 7th house (ornaments) from

> > Lagna in its own house. Thus the native will have a profession

related

> > to cloth, ornaments etc used by women, or a business related to

> > similar things. The native should have attained all kinds of life

> > success such as, money, house, vehicles, and every other possible

> > luxury with in the period of Ju itself due his success in

profession

> > during his 20-25 years of age. (Remember that the native is only

25

> > years of age now)

> > * Me in 12th indicates insaneness or madness. Mo – Ju in 5th

aspected

> > by Su indicates the same. 6th lord Ma in 4th with Sa also

indicate the

> > same. Thus it is a horoscope with multiple combinations that

indicate

> > madness or a psychic patient. The results will actualize (psychic

> > problem will occur) in Ju Dasa Mo antara or Sa Dasa Mars Antara

(). No

> > doubt the horoscope is that of a psychopath. As per Vimsottari

dasa

> > from Moon Aug 2003 – Dec 2004 is Ju-Mo period; As per Vimsottari

dasa

> > from Lagna April 2004 – May 2005 is Sa-Ma. Thus period of madness

> > should be April 2004 – Dec 2004 as indicated by both of them. The

> > native's madness should had become uncontrolled and clearly

visible to

> > the world in this period.

> > * 8th lord Sa aspecting Lagna, Sa with Ma in 4th, Me in 12th

indicate

> > a combination for bondage. The native will suffer prison

sentence for

> > long, possibly though out the Saturn period of 19 years.

> > * Even the favoring authorities (as indicated by Su in 11th) can

not

> > help in stopping his fate which is sure to put him in prison for

long.

> > * Ma-Sa in 4th indicates that the activities of the native would

be

> > destructive for the society but beneficial to the worldly

success of

> > the native (till the tide changes). He will not repent and the

trend

> > will be followed throughout his life.

> > * The Me desa would be no better than the Sa dasa going through

tides,

> > turbulences and occasional madness.

> > * The native will again become famous, well known and successful

only

> > at the end of his life in Ve dasa. He will follow the same

profession

> > and will become well known in the same after the age of 65 years.

> > Remark:

> > =======

> > This is the horoscope of a psychopath, with exceptional

intelligence

> > and professional success. He will for sure suffer the long prison

> > sentence for 19 years for sure. His would be a unique life, and

he

> > will come back to popularity and professional success again in

the

> > late years of his life. All efforts to avoid the jail sentence is

> > futile, remedies will not work, this being a strong result.

> >

> > Note: This being a very interesting horoscope with many unique

> > combinations, I request others to continue the discussion on the

same.

> > Let us see what other details we can bring out from the same.

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> > --- In

<%

40>,

> > Panditji

> > <navagraha@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste,

> > >

> > > The lagna is 26 degrees of Mithuna. Lagna is afflicted by rahu

and

> > shani.

> > > Shani, mangal and guru are retrograde. Shukra is exalted and is

> > aspected by

> > > shani, with no controling aspect of guru, this can give strong

sex

> > drive. 4

> > > malefics are in kendra. Guru is in tula rashi. Shukra, guru

and ravi are

> > > debilited in navansha.

> > >

> > > The dasha running is guru-rahu. Not many bad influences on

chadra to

> > suggest

> > > mental imbalance. Chadra is in rahu nakshatra, thats the only

> > negative I can

> > > say about chandra in rashi. Birth is on poornima so chadra is

strong.

> > >

> > > So, yes there is a strong possibility of elevated sex drive.

Mangal and

> > > shani drishti does not help to moderate shukra.

> > >

> > > ...

> > >

> > >

> > > On 6/7/07, subba_appa <subba.iyer@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hello Learned astrologers:

> > > >

> > > > The native migrated from India to a country, where the laws

are very

> > > > strict and punishments are severe and in some cases the legal

> > processes has

> > > > resulted in a clear miscarriage of justice.

> > > >

> > > > The native was accused of molesting several women,

assaulting a

> > couple of

> > > > women sexually and of a violent rape and all the crimes were

> > supposedly

> > > > committed in 6 months. this means he is a serial molester.

> > > >

> > > > He stood trial and claimed innocence. He was sentenced to 18

years

> > > > imprisonment. This happened in Sa/Ma as per Vimsottari dasa

> > (started from

> > > > lagna).

> > > >

> > > > I am the appointed counselor for him and during all my

> > interactions, he

> > > > comes across as a very intelligent and a sensible person,

claiming

> > > > innocence. There is definitely some incoherence in his

> > communication and

> > > > interaction, but it is difficult to pin it down to his

inherent

> > nature, as

> > > > someone who can be falsely accused and has to spend his time

in

> > prison can

> > > > show such behavior.The official rehabilitation officer also

finds him

> > > > intelligent, though the psychiatrist in charge of the case

has

> > reported

> > > > (based on his tests) that he is a dangerous psychopath and it

> > would be a

> > > > danger to society if he was released.

> > > >

> > > > The native's mother is keen on an appeal to the highest

court,

> > though the

> > > > lawyers have advised her that the appeal may not be

successful in

> > view of

> > > > the psychiatrist opinion.

> > > >

> > > > His chart is interesting. Based on the details available

with the

> > > > authorities, the chart (D-1)shows 4 planets in exaltation, a

Gaja

> > kesari

> > > > yoga, and except for the 4H being badly afflicted, it shows

a good

> > chart.

> > > >

> > > > *Birth details: May 7, 1982, time: 10:01 am, Nagpur, India. *

> > > >

> > > > *Here are the questions from a practical standpoint:*

> > > >

> > > > 1. Is it possible that he could have committed such serious

crimes?

> > > > 2. He believes that he was completely framed, and that his

defence

> > > > lawyer (appointed by the State) did a poor job. Was

miscarriage

> > of justice

> > > > possible?

> > > > 3. Is an appeal likely to be successful? The chances that the

> > appeal

> > > > may be entertained seems slim, given the psychiatrist

opinion.

> > > > 4. Are there any remedial measures possible to improve the

state of

> > > > affairs?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > *From an astrological standpoint:*

> > > >

> > > > 1. What aspects in the chart could indicate such deviant

sexual

> > > > behavior?

> > > > 2. What aspects in the chart could indicate such a long

prison

> > term?

> > > > 3. Does he inherently have psychopathic tendency or is he a

victim

> > > > of circumstances? How does that one judge that?

> > > > 4. Is there a way to show that he was sexually abused

himself when

> > > > he was a child? How does one see that?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Given the seriousness of the situation, and given that it is

a very

> > > > interesting case, may I request the learned astrologers give

a

> > more detailed

> > > > comprehensive response.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Namaste Sreenadh,

 

I was reading you article on birth time rectification. Good info. Are you planning to elaborate on that article.

Kunda method is one of the methods described there. Aslo the method using Yamas and tatwas needs elaboration. The particular chart is discussed but what happens for other scenarios is not discussed. I am sure that was not the intent of the article, but it wouls be great if it is formalized into a writeup.

 

 

Thanks

....

On 6/24/07, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Pandit ji,Yes, it is time that we should go back to normal astrological discussions. Today I was engaged in completing one article [yes, in sequence with the current unending story of replying to Kaul :)], and will post it today (a pdf doc). From tomorrow onwards we will start with this chart itself. Of course in the next post I will clarify the Kunda rectification method as well.Love,

Sreenadh , Panditji <navagraha wrote:

>> Sreenadhji,> > Any comments on this chart. Also could you please elaborate the kunda method> of rectification.> > Thanks> > ...

> >

> On 6/9/07, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:> >> > BT: 7th May 1982, 10.01 AM, Nagpur, India.> > Rectified BT: BT: 7th May 1982, 10.02.30

AM, Nagpur, India.> > Log: 75 E 25 Lat: 29 N 39> > Ayanamsa: True Ayanamsa of Chandrahari (46 min more than Lahari)> > Year length used for Dasa calculation: 360 days savanna year> >

> > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa> >> > Lagna 25 Ge 30' 30.73 " Puna 2 Ge Ta> > Sun - AmK 21 Ar 55' 55.04 " Bhar 3 Ar Li> > Moon - MK 12 Li 24' 46.35 " Swat 2 Li Cp> > Mars ® - DK 6 Vi 08' 28.66 " UPha 3 Vi Aq> > Mercury - BK 13 Ta 00' 45.54 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar> > Jupiter ® - PiK 9 Li 40' 29.98 " Swat 1 Li Sg

> > Venus - PK 8 Pi 36' 59.44 " UBha 2 Pi Vi> > Saturn ® - AK 22 Vi 31' 11.63 " Hast 4 Vi Cn> > Rahu - GK 22 Ge 07' 45.94 " Puna 1 Ge Ar> > Ketu 22 Sg 07' 45.94 " PSha 3 Sg Li> > Gulika 19 Ta 29' 37.56 " Rohi 3 Ta Ge> > Kunda 26 Ge 11' 29.36 " Puna 2 Ge Ta> >> > Rectification: For 10.02.30 the Kunda Lagna falls on Punarvasu (Lagma> > sputa star) itself, and therefore, it is assumed that the given birth> > time is correct.> > Primary Analysis> > ================> > * Ve and Su exalted in natal chart, but both Ve and Su debilitated in> > Navamsa.> > * Ju retrograde and is in 5th with Mo providing a powerful unmade yoga> > (indicating a psychological patient), in Navamsa Ju is in own house.> > (As per Lahari Ayanamsa Ju is also debilitated in Navamsa)

> > * Lagna lord in 12th and the navamsa of lagna lord is 12th from the> > sign in which lagna lord is placed (i.e. Lagnadhipa navamsa falls on> > 11th from lagna)> > * 4th house afflicted with 2 powerful malifics Ma and Sa, indicating a> > fallen (immoral) individual.> > * As indicated by Ju and Mo in 5th and Ve in 10th and Su in 11th, he> > would be a successful individual in his early years of life,

like an> > over voltage bulb (Ju in 5th – house of intelligence)> > * As indicated by Ma-Sa in 4th, born in an culturally fallen, immoral> > poor family, the native attained life success because of his unique> > abilities and successful profession.> > * Ve in 10th from Lagna indicates that the native will have income> > from women and job related to them. Sa aspecting Ve also indicate the

> > same. Navamsa of 10th lord Ju falls in 7th house (ornaments) from> > Lagna in its own house. Thus the native will have a profession related> > to cloth, ornaments etc used by women, or a business related to

> > similar things. The native should have attained all kinds of life> > success such as, money, house, vehicles, and every other possible> > luxury with in the period of Ju itself due his success in profession> > during his 20-25 years of age. (Remember that the native is only 25> > years of age now)> > * Me in 12th indicates insaneness or madness. Mo – Ju in 5th aspected

> > by Su indicates the same. 6th lord Ma in 4th with Sa also indicate the> > same. Thus it is a horoscope with multiple combinations that indicate> > madness or a psychic patient. The results will actualize (psychic

> > problem will occur) in Ju Dasa Mo antara or Sa Dasa Mars Antara (). No> > doubt the horoscope is that of a psychopath. As per Vimsottari dasa> > from Moon Aug 2003 – Dec 2004 is Ju-Mo period; As per Vimsottari dasa> > from Lagna April 2004 – May 2005 is Sa-Ma. Thus period of madness> > should be April 2004 – Dec 2004 as indicated by both of them. The> > native's madness should had become uncontrolled and clearly visible to> > the world in this period.> > * 8th lord Sa aspecting Lagna, Sa with Ma in 4th, Me in 12th indicate> > a combination for bondage. The native will suffer prison sentence for

> > long, possibly though out the Saturn period of 19 years.> > * Even the favoring authorities (as indicated by Su in 11th) can not> > help in stopping his fate which is sure to put him in prison for long.> > * Ma-Sa in 4th indicates that the activities of the native would be> > destructive for the society but beneficial to the worldly success of> > the native (till the tide changes). He will not repent and the trend> > will be followed throughout his life.> > * The Me desa would be no better than the Sa dasa going through tides,> > turbulences and occasional madness.> > * The native will again become famous, well known and successful only> > at the end of his life in Ve dasa. He will follow the same profession> > and will become well known in the same after the age of 65 years.> > Remark:> > =======> > This is the horoscope of a psychopath, with exceptional intelligence> > and professional success. He will for sure suffer the long prison> > sentence for 19 years for sure. His would be a unique life, and he> > will come back to popularity and professional success again in the> > late years of his life. All efforts to avoid the jail sentence is> > futile, remedies will not work, this being a strong result.> >> > Note: This being a very interesting horoscope with many unique

> > combinations, I request others to continue the discussion on the same.> > Let us see what other details we can bring out from the same.> > Love,> > Sreenadh> > <%

40>, > > Panditji> > <navagraha@> wrote:> > >> > > Namaste,> > >> > > The lagna is 26 degrees of Mithuna. Lagna is afflicted by rahu and> > shani.> > > Shani, mangal and guru are retrograde. Shukra is exalted and is> > aspected by> > > shani, with no controling aspect of guru, this can give strong sex

> > drive. 4> > > malefics are in kendra. Guru is in tula rashi. Shukra, guru and ravi are> > > debilited in navansha.> > >> > > The dasha running is guru-rahu. Not many bad influences on chadra to> > suggest> > > mental imbalance. Chadra is in rahu nakshatra, thats the only> > negative I can> > > say about chandra in rashi. Birth is on poornima so chadra is strong.> > >> > > So, yes there is a strong possibility of elevated sex drive. Mangal and> > > shani drishti does not help to moderate shukra.> > >> > > ...

> > >> > >> > > On 6/7/07, subba_appa <subba.iyer@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hello Learned astrologers:> > > >> > > > The native migrated from India to a country, where the laws are very> > > > strict and punishments are severe and in some cases the legal> > processes has> > > > resulted in a clear miscarriage of justice.> > > >> > > > The native was accused of molesting several women, assaulting a> > couple of> > > > women sexually and of a violent rape and all the crimes were> > supposedly> > > > committed in 6 months. this means he is a serial molester.

> > > >> > > > He stood trial and claimed innocence. He was sentenced to 18 years> > > > imprisonment. This happened in Sa/Ma as per Vimsottari dasa> > (started from

> > > > lagna).> > > >> > > > I am the appointed counselor for him and during all my> > interactions, he> > > > comes across as a very intelligent and a sensible person, claiming> > > > innocence. There is definitely some incoherence in his> > communication and> > > > interaction, but it is difficult to pin it down to his inherent> > nature, as

> > > > someone who can be falsely accused and has to spend his time in> > prison can> > > > show such behavior.The official rehabilitation officer also finds him> > > > intelligent, though the psychiatrist in charge of the case has> > reported> > > > (based on his tests) that he is a dangerous psychopath and it> > would be a> > > > danger to society if he was released.> > > >

> > > > The native's mother is keen on an appeal to the highest court,> > though the> > > > lawyers have advised her that the appeal may not be successful in> > view of

> > > > the psychiatrist opinion.> > > >> > > > His chart is interesting. Based on the details available with the> > > > authorities, the chart (D-1)shows 4 planets in exaltation, a Gaja> > kesari> > > > yoga, and except for the 4H being badly afflicted, it shows a good> > chart.> > > >> > > > *Birth details: May 7, 1982, time: 10:01 am, Nagpur, India. *

> > > >> > > > *Here are the questions from a practical standpoint:*> > > >> > > > 1. Is it possible that he could have committed such serious crimes?

> > > > 2. He believes that he was completely framed, and that his defence> > > > lawyer (appointed by the State) did a poor job. Was miscarriage> > of justice> > > > possible?

> > > > 3. Is an appeal likely to be successful? The chances that the> > appeal> > > > may be entertained seems slim, given the psychiatrist opinion.> > > > 4. Are there any remedial measures possible to improve the state of> > > > affairs?> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > *From an astrological standpoint:*> > > >> > > > 1. What aspects in the chart could indicate such deviant sexual> > > > behavior?> > > > 2. What aspects in the chart could indicate such a long prison> > term?> > > > 3. Does he inherently have psychopathic tendency or is he a victim> > > > of circumstances? How does that one judge that?> > > > 4. Is there a way to show that he was sexually abused himself when> > > > he was a child? How does one see that?

> > > >> > > >> > > > Given the seriousness of the situation, and given that it is a very> > > > interesting case, may I request the learned astrologers give a> > more detailed> > > > comprehensive response.> > > >> > > > Thanks> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >

> >> > > >>

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Dear Sreenadh ji

 

may I also ask you for more lecturing this Rectifications Methode,

and as I am a European female, I dont know the mathematical Methode,

please be so kind and detail it for me,

when ever you have time.

 

nice greetings

Gerlinde

 

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Panditji

Wednesday, June 27, 2007 7:21 PM

Re: Re: Innocent person or a dangerous psychopath? Please help analyze.

 

Namaste Sreenadh,

 

I was reading you article on birth time rectification. Good info. Are you planning to elaborate on that article.

Kunda method is one of the methods described there. Aslo the method using Yamas and tatwas needs elaboration. The particular chart is discussed but what happens for other scenarios is not discussed. I am sure that was not the intent of the article, but it wouls be great if it is formalized into a writeup.

 

Thanks

....

On 6/24/07, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Pandit ji,Yes, it is time that we should go back to normal astrological discussions. Today I was engaged in completing one article [yes, in sequence with the current unending story of replying to Kaul :)], and will post it today (a pdf doc). From tomorrow onwards we will start with this chart itself. Of course in the next post I will clarify the Kunda rectification method as well.Love,Sreenadh , Panditji <navagraha wrote: >> Sreenadhji,> > Any comments on this chart. Also could you please elaborate the kunda method> of rectification.> > Thanks> > ...> >

> On 6/9/07, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:> >> > BT: 7th May 1982, 10.01 AM, Nagpur, India.> > Rectified BT: BT: 7th May 1982, 10.02.30 AM, Nagpur, India.> > Log: 75 E 25 Lat: 29 N 39> > Ayanamsa: True Ayanamsa of Chandrahari (46 min more than Lahari)> > Year length used for Dasa calculation: 360 days savanna year> > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa> >> > Lagna 25 Ge 30' 30.73" Puna 2 Ge Ta> > Sun - AmK 21 Ar 55' 55.04" Bhar 3 Ar Li> > Moon - MK 12 Li 24' 46.35" Swat 2 Li Cp> > Mars ® - DK 6 Vi 08' 28.66" UPha 3 Vi Aq> > Mercury - BK 13 Ta 00' 45.54" Rohi 1 Ta Ar> > Jupiter ® - PiK 9 Li 40' 29.98" Swat 1 Li Sg > > Venus - PK 8 Pi 36' 59.44" UBha 2 Pi Vi> > Saturn ® - AK 22 Vi 31' 11.63" Hast 4 Vi Cn> > Rahu - GK 22 Ge 07' 45.94" Puna 1 Ge Ar> > Ketu 22 Sg 07' 45.94" PSha 3 Sg Li> > Gulika 19 Ta 29' 37.56" Rohi 3 Ta Ge> > Kunda 26 Ge 11' 29.36" Puna 2 Ge Ta> >> > Rectification: For 10.02.30 the Kunda Lagna falls on Punarvasu (Lagma> > sputa star) itself, and therefore, it is assumed that the given birth> > time is correct.> > Primary Analysis> > ================> > * Ve and Su exalted in natal chart, but both Ve and Su debilitated in> > Navamsa.> > * Ju retrograde and is in 5th with Mo providing a powerful unmade yoga> > (indicating a psychological patient), in Navamsa Ju is in own house.> > (As per Lahari Ayanamsa Ju is also debilitated in Navamsa) > > * Lagna lord in 12th and the navamsa of lagna lord is 12th from the> > sign in which lagna lord is placed (i.e. Lagnadhipa navamsa falls on> > 11th from lagna)> > * 4th house afflicted with 2 powerful malifics Ma and Sa, indicating a> > fallen (immoral) individual.> > * As indicated by Ju and Mo in 5th and Ve in 10th and Su in 11th, he> > would be a successful individual in his early years of life, like an> > over voltage bulb (Ju in 5th – house of intelligence)> > * As indicated by Ma-Sa in 4th, born in an culturally fallen, immoral> > poor family, the native attained life success because of his unique> > abilities and successful profession.> > * Ve in 10th from Lagna indicates that the native will have income> > from women and job related to them. Sa aspecting Ve also indicate the > > same. Navamsa of 10th lord Ju falls in 7th house (ornaments) from> > Lagna in its own house. Thus the native will have a profession related> > to cloth, ornaments etc used by women, or a business related to > > similar things. The native should have attained all kinds of life> > success such as, money, house, vehicles, and every other possible> > luxury with in the period of Ju itself due his success in profession> > during his 20-25 years of age. (Remember that the native is only 25> > years of age now)> > * Me in 12th indicates insaneness or madness. Mo – Ju in 5th aspected> > by Su indicates the same. 6th lord Ma in 4th with Sa also indicate the> > same. Thus it is a horoscope with multiple combinations that indicate> > madness or a psychic patient. The results will actualize (psychic > > problem will occur) in Ju Dasa Mo antara or Sa Dasa Mars Antara (). No> > doubt the horoscope is that of a psychopath. As per Vimsottari dasa> > from Moon Aug 2003 – Dec 2004 is Ju-Mo period; As per Vimsottari dasa> > from Lagna April 2004 – May 2005 is Sa-Ma. Thus period of madness> > should be April 2004 – Dec 2004 as indicated by both of them. The> > native's madness should had become uncontrolled and clearly visible to> > the world in this period.> > * 8th lord Sa aspecting Lagna, Sa with Ma in 4th, Me in 12th indicate> > a combination for bondage. The native will suffer prison sentence for > > long, possibly though out the Saturn period of 19 years.> > * Even the favoring authorities (as indicated by Su in 11th) can not> > help in stopping his fate which is sure to put him in prison for long.> > * Ma-Sa in 4th indicates that the activities of the native would be> > destructive for the society but beneficial to the worldly success of> > the native (till the tide changes). He will not repent and the trend> > will be followed throughout his life.> > * The Me desa would be no better than the Sa dasa going through tides,> > turbulences and occasional madness.> > * The native will again become famous, well known and successful only> > at the end of his life in Ve dasa. He will follow the same profession> > and will become well known in the same after the age of 65 years.> > Remark:> > =======> > This is the horoscope of a psychopath, with exceptional intelligence> > and professional success. He will for sure suffer the long prison> > sentence for 19 years for sure. His would be a unique life, and he> > will come back to popularity and professional success again in the> > late years of his life. All efforts to avoid the jail sentence is> > futile, remedies will not work, this being a strong result.> >> > Note: This being a very interesting horoscope with many unique > > combinations, I request others to continue the discussion on the same.> > Let us see what other details we can bring out from the same.> > Love,> > Sreenadh> > <% 40>, > > Panditji> > <navagraha@> wrote:> > >> > > Namaste,> > >> > > The lagna is 26 degrees of Mithuna. Lagna is afflicted by rahu and> > shani.> > > Shani, mangal and guru are retrograde. Shukra is exalted and is> > aspected by> > > shani, with no controling aspect of guru, this can give strong sex > > drive. 4> > > malefics are in kendra. Guru is in tula rashi. Shukra, guru and ravi are> > > debilited in navansha.> > >> > > The dasha running is guru-rahu.. Not many bad influences on chadra to> > suggest> > > mental imbalance. Chadra is in rahu nakshatra, thats the only> > negative I can> > > say about chandra in rashi. Birth is on poornima so chadra is strong.> > >> > > So, yes there is a strong possibility of elevated sex drive. Mangal and> > > shani drishti does not help to moderate shukra.> > >> > > ... > > >> > >> > > On 6/7/07, subba_appa <subba.iyer@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hello Learned astrologers:> > > >> > > > The native migrated from India to a country, where the laws are very> > > > strict and punishments are severe and in some cases the legal> > processes has> > > > resulted in a clear miscarriage of justice.> > > >> > > > The native was accused of molesting several women, assaulting a> > couple of> > > > women sexually and of a violent rape and all the crimes were> > supposedly> > > > committed in 6 months. this means he is a serial molester. > > > >> > > > He stood trial and claimed innocence. He was sentenced to 18 years> > > > imprisonment. This happened in Sa/Ma as per Vimsottari dasa> > (started from > > > > lagna).> > > >> > > > I am the appointed counselor for him and during all my> > interactions, he> > > > comes across as a very intelligent and a sensible person, claiming> > > > innocence. There is definitely some incoherence in his> > communication and> > > > interaction, but it is difficult to pin it down to his inherent> > nature, as > > > > someone who can be falsely accused and has to spend his time in> > prison can> > > > show such behavior.The official rehabilitation officer also finds him> > > > intelligent, though the psychiatrist in charge of the case has> > reported> > > > (based on his tests) that he is a dangerous psychopath and it> > would be a> > > > danger to society if he was released.> > > > > > > > The native's mother is keen on an appeal to the highest court,> > though the> > > > lawyers have advised her that the appeal may not be successful in> > view of > > > > the psychiatrist opinion.> > > >> > > > His chart is interesting. Based on the details available with the> > > > authorities, the chart (D-1)shows 4 planets in exaltation, a Gaja> > kesari> > > > yoga, and except for the 4H being badly afflicted, it shows a good> > chart.> > > >> > > > *Birth details: May 7, 1982, time: 10:01 am, Nagpur, India. * > > > >> > > > *Here are the questions from a practical standpoint:*> > > >> > > > 1. Is it possible that he could have committed such serious crimes?> > > > 2. He believes that he was completely framed, and that his defence> > > > lawyer (appointed by the State) did a poor job. Was miscarriage> > of justice> > > > possible? > > > > 3. Is an appeal likely to be successful? The chances that the> > appeal> > > > may be entertained seems slim, given the psychiatrist opinion.> > > > 4. Are there any remedial measures possible to improve the state of> > > > affairs?> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > *From an astrological standpoint:*> > > >> > > > 1. What aspects in the chart could indicate such deviant sexual> > > > behavior?> > > > 2. What aspects in the chart could indicate such a long prison> > term?> > > > 3. Does he inherently have psychopathic tendency or is he a victim> > > > of circumstances? How does that one judge that?> > > > 4. Is there a way to show that he was sexually abused himself when> > > > he was a child? How does one see that? > > > >> > > >> > > > Given the seriousness of the situation, and given that it is a very> > > > interesting case, may I request the learned astrologers give a> > more detailed> > > > comprehensive response.> > > >> > > > Thanks> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >>

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Dear Pandit ji,

The real problem is that I usually get enough free time only on

Saturday and Sunday. This Saturday I will sit on that will prepare an

article on Birth time rectification methods and will upload it in the

group.

 

Note: As of Kunda rectification method is concerned, to be brief,

Kunda Longitude = Lagna longitude X 81

This should fall in the star or trine star of the native – here by

star we mean the star in which Moon is placed, i.e Janma Nakshatra.

If this is not happening, proper adjustment is done in time by adding

or decreasing 30 sec each so that the Kunda Longitude falls on the

Janma Nakshatra trines. This method helps only for a maximum

correction of 3 minutes.

 

I will elaborate on the same with examples in on Saturday along with

the discussion of other methods.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, Panditji

<navagraha wrote:

>

> Namaste Sreenadh,

>

> I was reading you article on birth time rectification. Good info.

Are you

> planning to elaborate on that article.

> Kunda method is one of the methods described there. Aslo the method

using

> Yamas and tatwas needs elaboration. The particular chart is

discussed but

> what happens for other scenarios is not discussed. I am sure that

was not

> the intent of the article, but it wouls be great if it is

formalized into a

> writeup.

>

> Thanks

> ...

>

>

> On 6/24/07, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

> >

> > Dear Pandit ji,

> > Yes, it is time that we should go back to normal astrological

> > discussions. Today I was engaged in completing one article [yes,

in

> > sequence with the current unending story of replying to Kaul :)],

> > and will post it today (a pdf doc).

> > From tomorrow onwards we will start with this chart itself. Of

> > course in the next post I will clarify the Kunda rectification

> > method as well.

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> > --- In

<%

40>,

> > Panditji

> > <navagraha@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sreenadhji,

> > >

> > > Any comments on this chart. Also could you please elaborate the

> > kunda method

> > > of rectification.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > ...

> > >

> > >

> > > On 6/9/07, Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > BT: 7th May 1982, 10.01 AM, Nagpur, India.

> > > > Rectified BT: BT: 7th May 1982, 10.02.30 AM, Nagpur, India.

> > > > Log: 75 E 25 Lat: 29 N 39

> > > > Ayanamsa: True Ayanamsa of Chandrahari (46 min more than

Lahari)

> > > > Year length used for Dasa calculation: 360 days savanna year

> > > >

> > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

> > > >

> > > > Lagna 25 Ge 30' 30.73 " Puna 2 Ge Ta

> > > > Sun - AmK 21 Ar 55' 55.04 " Bhar 3 Ar Li

> > > > Moon - MK 12 Li 24' 46.35 " Swat 2 Li Cp

> > > > Mars ® - DK 6 Vi 08' 28.66 " UPha 3 Vi Aq

> > > > Mercury - BK 13 Ta 00' 45.54 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar

> > > > Jupiter ® - PiK 9 Li 40' 29.98 " Swat 1 Li Sg

> > > > Venus - PK 8 Pi 36' 59.44 " UBha 2 Pi Vi

> > > > Saturn ® - AK 22 Vi 31' 11.63 " Hast 4 Vi Cn

> > > > Rahu - GK 22 Ge 07' 45.94 " Puna 1 Ge Ar

> > > > Ketu 22 Sg 07' 45.94 " PSha 3 Sg Li

> > > > Gulika 19 Ta 29' 37.56 " Rohi 3 Ta Ge

> > > > Kunda 26 Ge 11' 29.36 " Puna 2 Ge Ta

> > > >

> > > > Rectification: For 10.02.30 the Kunda Lagna falls on Punarvasu

> > (Lagma

> > > > sputa star) itself, and therefore, it is assumed that the

given

> > birth

> > > > time is correct.

> > > > Primary Analysis

> > > > ================

> > > > * Ve and Su exalted in natal chart, but both Ve and Su

> > debilitated in

> > > > Navamsa.

> > > > * Ju retrograde and is in 5th with Mo providing a powerful

> > unmade yoga

> > > > (indicating a psychological patient), in Navamsa Ju is in own

> > house.

> > > > (As per Lahari Ayanamsa Ju is also debilitated in Navamsa)

> > > > * Lagna lord in 12th and the navamsa of lagna lord is 12th

from

> > the

> > > > sign in which lagna lord is placed (i.e. Lagnadhipa navamsa

> > falls on

> > > > 11th from lagna)

> > > > * 4th house afflicted with 2 powerful malifics Ma and Sa,

> > indicating a

> > > > fallen (immoral) individual.

> > > > * As indicated by Ju and Mo in 5th and Ve in 10th and Su in

> > 11th, he

> > > > would be a successful individual in his early years of life,

> > like an

> > > > over voltage bulb (Ju in 5th – house of intelligence)

> > > > * As indicated by Ma-Sa in 4th, born in an culturally fallen,

> > immoral

> > > > poor family, the native attained life success because of his

> > unique

> > > > abilities and successful profession.

> > > > * Ve in 10th from Lagna indicates that the native will have

> > income

> > > > from women and job related to them. Sa aspecting Ve also

> > indicate the

> > > > same. Navamsa of 10th lord Ju falls in 7th house (ornaments)

from

> > > > Lagna in its own house. Thus the native will have a profession

> > related

> > > > to cloth, ornaments etc used by women, or a business related

to

> > > > similar things. The native should have attained all kinds of

life

> > > > success such as, money, house, vehicles, and every other

possible

> > > > luxury with in the period of Ju itself due his success in

> > profession

> > > > during his 20-25 years of age. (Remember that the native is

only

> > 25

> > > > years of age now)

> > > > * Me in 12th indicates insaneness or madness. Mo – Ju in 5th

> > aspected

> > > > by Su indicates the same. 6th lord Ma in 4th with Sa also

> > indicate the

> > > > same. Thus it is a horoscope with multiple combinations that

> > indicate

> > > > madness or a psychic patient. The results will actualize

(psychic

> > > > problem will occur) in Ju Dasa Mo antara or Sa Dasa Mars

Antara

> > (). No

> > > > doubt the horoscope is that of a psychopath. As per Vimsottari

> > dasa

> > > > from Moon Aug 2003 – Dec 2004 is Ju-Mo period; As per

Vimsottari

> > dasa

> > > > from Lagna April 2004 – May 2005 is Sa-Ma. Thus period of

madness

> > > > should be April 2004 – Dec 2004 as indicated by both of them.

The

> > > > native's madness should had become uncontrolled and clearly

> > visible to

> > > > the world in this period.

> > > > * 8th lord Sa aspecting Lagna, Sa with Ma in 4th, Me in 12th

> > indicate

> > > > a combination for bondage. The native will suffer prison

> > sentence for

> > > > long, possibly though out the Saturn period of 19 years.

> > > > * Even the favoring authorities (as indicated by Su in 11th)

can

> > not

> > > > help in stopping his fate which is sure to put him in prison

for

> > long.

> > > > * Ma-Sa in 4th indicates that the activities of the native

would

> > be

> > > > destructive for the society but beneficial to the worldly

> > success of

> > > > the native (till the tide changes). He will not repent and the

> > trend

> > > > will be followed throughout his life.

> > > > * The Me desa would be no better than the Sa dasa going

through

> > tides,

> > > > turbulences and occasional madness.

> > > > * The native will again become famous, well known and

successful

> > only

> > > > at the end of his life in Ve dasa. He will follow the same

> > profession

> > > > and will become well known in the same after the age of 65

years.

> > > > Remark:

> > > > =======

> > > > This is the horoscope of a psychopath, with exceptional

> > intelligence

> > > > and professional success. He will for sure suffer the long

prison

> > > > sentence for 19 years for sure. His would be a unique life,

and

> > he

> > > > will come back to popularity and professional success again in

> > the

> > > > late years of his life. All efforts to avoid the jail

sentence is

> > > > futile, remedies will not work, this being a strong result.

> > > >

> > > > Note: This being a very interesting horoscope with many unique

> > > > combinations, I request others to continue the discussion on

the

> > same.

> > > > Let us see what other details we can bring out from the same.

> > > > Love,

> > > > Sreenadh

> > > > --- In

> > <%

40>

> > <%

> > 40>,

> > > > Panditji

> > > > <navagraha@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste,

> > > > >

> > > > > The lagna is 26 degrees of Mithuna. Lagna is afflicted by

rahu

> > and

> > > > shani.

> > > > > Shani, mangal and guru are retrograde. Shukra is exalted

and is

> > > > aspected by

> > > > > shani, with no controling aspect of guru, this can give

strong

> > sex

> > > > drive. 4

> > > > > malefics are in kendra. Guru is in tula rashi. Shukra, guru

> > and ravi are

> > > > > debilited in navansha.

> > > > >

> > > > > The dasha running is guru-rahu. Not many bad influences on

> > chadra to

> > > > suggest

> > > > > mental imbalance. Chadra is in rahu nakshatra, thats the

only

> > > > negative I can

> > > > > say about chandra in rashi. Birth is on poornima so chadra

is

> > strong.

> > > > >

> > > > > So, yes there is a strong possibility of elevated sex drive.

> > Mangal and

> > > > > shani drishti does not help to moderate shukra.

> > > > >

> > > > > ...

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On 6/7/07, subba_appa <subba.iyer@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hello Learned astrologers:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The native migrated from India to a country, where the

laws

> > are very

> > > > > > strict and punishments are severe and in some cases the

legal

> > > > processes has

> > > > > > resulted in a clear miscarriage of justice.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The native was accused of molesting several women,

> > assaulting a

> > > > couple of

> > > > > > women sexually and of a violent rape and all the crimes

were

> > > > supposedly

> > > > > > committed in 6 months. this means he is a serial molester.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He stood trial and claimed innocence. He was sentenced to

18

> > years

> > > > > > imprisonment. This happened in Sa/Ma as per Vimsottari

dasa

> > > > (started from

> > > > > > lagna).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am the appointed counselor for him and during all my

> > > > interactions, he

> > > > > > comes across as a very intelligent and a sensible person,

> > claiming

> > > > > > innocence. There is definitely some incoherence in his

> > > > communication and

> > > > > > interaction, but it is difficult to pin it down to his

> > inherent

> > > > nature, as

> > > > > > someone who can be falsely accused and has to spend his

time

> > in

> > > > prison can

> > > > > > show such behavior.The official rehabilitation officer

also

> > finds him

> > > > > > intelligent, though the psychiatrist in charge of the case

> > has

> > > > reported

> > > > > > (based on his tests) that he is a dangerous psychopath

and it

> > > > would be a

> > > > > > danger to society if he was released.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The native's mother is keen on an appeal to the highest

> > court,

> > > > though the

> > > > > > lawyers have advised her that the appeal may not be

> > successful in

> > > > view of

> > > > > > the psychiatrist opinion.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > His chart is interesting. Based on the details available

> > with the

> > > > > > authorities, the chart (D-1)shows 4 planets in

exaltation, a

> > Gaja

> > > > kesari

> > > > > > yoga, and except for the 4H being badly afflicted, it

shows

> > a good

> > > > chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > *Birth details: May 7, 1982, time: 10:01 am, Nagpur,

India. *

> > > > > >

> > > > > > *Here are the questions from a practical standpoint:*

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Is it possible that he could have committed such

serious

> > crimes?

> > > > > > 2. He believes that he was completely framed, and that his

> > defence

> > > > > > lawyer (appointed by the State) did a poor job. Was

> > miscarriage

> > > > of justice

> > > > > > possible?

> > > > > > 3. Is an appeal likely to be successful? The chances that

the

> > > > appeal

> > > > > > may be entertained seems slim, given the psychiatrist

> > opinion.

> > > > > > 4. Are there any remedial measures possible to improve the

> > state of

> > > > > > affairs?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > *From an astrological standpoint:*

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. What aspects in the chart could indicate such deviant

> > sexual

> > > > > > behavior?

> > > > > > 2. What aspects in the chart could indicate such a long

> > prison

> > > > term?

> > > > > > 3. Does he inherently have psychopathic tendency or is he

a

> > victim

> > > > > > of circumstances? How does that one judge that?

> > > > > > 4. Is there a way to show that he was sexually abused

> > himself when

> > > > > > he was a child? How does one see that?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Given the seriousness of the situation, and given that it

is

> > a very

> > > > > > interesting case, may I request the learned astrologers

give

> > a

> > > > more detailed

> > > > > > comprehensive response.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Dear Gerlinde ji,

Yes, I will. Please give me one or two days time to prepare a

detailed article on the same.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

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wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadh ji

>

> may I also ask you for more lecturing this Rectifications Methode,

> and as I am a European female, I dont know the mathematical

Methode,

> please be so kind and detail it for me,

> when ever you have time.

>

> nice greetings

> Gerlinde

> -

> Panditji

>

> Wednesday, June 27, 2007 7:21 PM

> Re: Re: Innocent person or a

dangerous psychopath? Please help analyze.

>

>

> Namaste Sreenadh,

>

> I was reading you article on birth time rectification. Good info.

Are you planning to elaborate on that article.

> Kunda method is one of the methods described there. Aslo the

method using Yamas and tatwas needs elaboration. The particular chart

is discussed but what happens for other scenarios is not discussed. I

am sure that was not the intent of the article, but it wouls be great

if it is formalized into a writeup.

>

> Thanks

> ...

>

>

> On 6/24/07, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

> Dear Pandit ji,

> Yes, it is time that we should go back to normal astrological

> discussions. Today I was engaged in completing one article

[yes, in

> sequence with the current unending story of replying to

Kaul :)],

> and will post it today (a pdf doc).

> From tomorrow onwards we will start with this chart itself. Of

> course in the next post I will clarify the Kunda rectification

> method as well.

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , Panditji

> <navagraha@> wrote:

> >

> > Sreenadhji,

> >

> > Any comments on this chart. Also could you please elaborate

the

> kunda method

> > of rectification.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > ...

> >

> >

>

>

> > On 6/9/07, Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:

> > >

> > > BT: 7th May 1982, 10.01 AM, Nagpur, India.

> > > Rectified BT: BT: 7th May 1982, 10.02.30 AM, Nagpur, India.

> > > Log: 75 E 25 Lat: 29 N 39

> > > Ayanamsa: True Ayanamsa of Chandrahari (46 min more than

Lahari)

> > > Year length used for Dasa calculation: 360 days savanna year

> > >

> > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

> > >

> > > Lagna 25 Ge 30' 30.73 " Puna 2 Ge Ta

> > > Sun - AmK 21 Ar 55' 55.04 " Bhar 3 Ar Li

> > > Moon - MK 12 Li 24' 46.35 " Swat 2 Li Cp

> > > Mars ® - DK 6 Vi 08' 28.66 " UPha 3 Vi Aq

> > > Mercury - BK 13 Ta 00' 45.54 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar

> > > Jupiter ® - PiK 9 Li 40' 29.98 " Swat 1 Li Sg

> > > Venus - PK 8 Pi 36' 59.44 " UBha 2 Pi Vi

> > > Saturn ® - AK 22 Vi 31' 11.63 " Hast 4 Vi Cn

> > > Rahu - GK 22 Ge 07' 45.94 " Puna 1 Ge Ar

> > > Ketu 22 Sg 07' 45.94 " PSha 3 Sg Li

> > > Gulika 19 Ta 29' 37.56 " Rohi 3 Ta Ge

> > > Kunda 26 Ge 11' 29.36 " Puna 2 Ge Ta

> > >

> > > Rectification: For 10.02.30 the Kunda Lagna falls on

Punarvasu

> (Lagma

> > > sputa star) itself, and therefore, it is assumed that the

given

> birth

> > > time is correct.

> > > Primary Analysis

> > > ================

> > > * Ve and Su exalted in natal chart, but both Ve and Su

> debilitated in

> > > Navamsa.

> > > * Ju retrograde and is in 5th with Mo providing a powerful

> unmade yoga

> > > (indicating a psychological patient), in Navamsa Ju is in

own

> house.

> > > (As per Lahari Ayanamsa Ju is also debilitated in Navamsa)

> > > * Lagna lord in 12th and the navamsa of lagna lord is 12th

from

> the

> > > sign in which lagna lord is placed (i.e. Lagnadhipa navamsa

> falls on

> > > 11th from lagna)

> > > * 4th house afflicted with 2 powerful malifics Ma and Sa,

> indicating a

> > > fallen (immoral) individual.

> > > * As indicated by Ju and Mo in 5th and Ve in 10th and Su in

> 11th, he

> > > would be a successful individual in his early years of

life,

> like an

> > > over voltage bulb (Ju in 5th – house of intelligence)

> > > * As indicated by Ma-Sa in 4th, born in an culturally

fallen,

> immoral

> > > poor family, the native attained life success because of

his

> unique

> > > abilities and successful profession.

> > > * Ve in 10th from Lagna indicates that the native will have

> income

> > > from women and job related to them. Sa aspecting Ve also

> indicate the

> > > same. Navamsa of 10th lord Ju falls in 7th house

(ornaments) from

> > > Lagna in its own house. Thus the native will have a

profession

> related

> > > to cloth, ornaments etc used by women, or a business

related to

> > > similar things. The native should have attained all kinds

of life

> > > success such as, money, house, vehicles, and every other

possible

> > > luxury with in the period of Ju itself due his success in

> profession

> > > during his 20-25 years of age. (Remember that the native is

only

> 25

> > > years of age now)

> > > * Me in 12th indicates insaneness or madness. Mo – Ju in

5th

> aspected

> > > by Su indicates the same. 6th lord Ma in 4th with Sa also

> indicate the

> > > same. Thus it is a horoscope with multiple combinations

that

> indicate

> > > madness or a psychic patient. The results will actualize

(psychic

> > > problem will occur) in Ju Dasa Mo antara or Sa Dasa Mars

Antara

> (). No

> > > doubt the horoscope is that of a psychopath. As per

Vimsottari

> dasa

> > > from Moon Aug 2003 – Dec 2004 is Ju-Mo period; As per

Vimsottari

> dasa

> > > from Lagna April 2004 – May 2005 is Sa-Ma. Thus period of

madness

> > > should be April 2004 – Dec 2004 as indicated by both of

them. The

> > > native's madness should had become uncontrolled and clearly

> visible to

> > > the world in this period.

> > > * 8th lord Sa aspecting Lagna, Sa with Ma in 4th, Me in

12th

> indicate

> > > a combination for bondage. The native will suffer prison

> sentence for

> > > long, possibly though out the Saturn period of 19 years.

> > > * Even the favoring authorities (as indicated by Su in

11th) can

> not

> > > help in stopping his fate which is sure to put him in

prison for

> long.

> > > * Ma-Sa in 4th indicates that the activities of the native

would

> be

> > > destructive for the society but beneficial to the worldly

> success of

> > > the native (till the tide changes). He will not repent and

the

> trend

> > > will be followed throughout his life.

> > > * The Me desa would be no better than the Sa dasa going

through

> tides,

> > > turbulences and occasional madness.

> > > * The native will again become famous, well known and

successful

> only

> > > at the end of his life in Ve dasa. He will follow the same

> profession

> > > and will become well known in the same after the age of 65

years.

> > > Remark:

> > > =======

> > > This is the horoscope of a psychopath, with exceptional

> intelligence

> > > and professional success. He will for sure suffer the long

prison

> > > sentence for 19 years for sure. His would be a unique life,

and

> he

> > > will come back to popularity and professional success again

in

> the

> > > late years of his life. All efforts to avoid the jail

sentence is

> > > futile, remedies will not work, this being a strong result.

> > >

> > > Note: This being a very interesting horoscope with many

unique

> > > combinations, I request others to continue the discussion

on the

> same.

> > > Let us see what other details we can bring out from the

same.

> > > Love,

> > > Sreenadh

> > > --- In

>

>

<%

> 40>,

>

> > > Panditji

> > > <navagraha@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste,

> > > >

> > > > The lagna is 26 degrees of Mithuna. Lagna is afflicted by

rahu

> and

> > > shani.

> > > > Shani, mangal and guru are retrograde. Shukra is exalted

and is

> > > aspected by

> > > > shani, with no controling aspect of guru, this can give

strong

> sex

> > > drive. 4

> > > > malefics are in kendra. Guru is in tula rashi. Shukra,

guru

> and ravi are

> > > > debilited in navansha.

> > > >

> > > > The dasha running is guru-rahu.. Not many bad influences

on

> chadra to

> > > suggest

> > > > mental imbalance. Chadra is in rahu nakshatra, thats the

only

> > > negative I can

> > > > say about chandra in rashi. Birth is on poornima so

chadra is

> strong.

> > > >

> > > > So, yes there is a strong possibility of elevated sex

drive.

> Mangal and

> > > > shani drishti does not help to moderate shukra.

> > > >

> > > > ...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On 6/7/07, subba_appa <subba.iyer@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello Learned astrologers:

> > > > >

> > > > > The native migrated from India to a country, where the

laws

> are very

> > > > > strict and punishments are severe and in some cases the

legal

> > > processes has

> > > > > resulted in a clear miscarriage of justice.

> > > > >

> > > > > The native was accused of molesting several women,

> assaulting a

> > > couple of

> > > > > women sexually and of a violent rape and all the crimes

were

> > > supposedly

> > > > > committed in 6 months. this means he is a serial

molester.

> > > > >

> > > > > He stood trial and claimed innocence. He was sentenced

to 18

> years

> > > > > imprisonment. This happened in Sa/Ma as per Vimsottari

dasa

> > > (started from

> > > > > lagna).

> > > > >

> > > > > I am the appointed counselor for him and during all my

> > > interactions, he

> > > > > comes across as a very intelligent and a sensible

person,

> claiming

> > > > > innocence. There is definitely some incoherence in his

> > > communication and

> > > > > interaction, but it is difficult to pin it down to his

> inherent

> > > nature, as

> > > > > someone who can be falsely accused and has to spend his

time

> in

> > > prison can

> > > > > show such behavior.The official rehabilitation officer

also

> finds him

> > > > > intelligent, though the psychiatrist in charge of the

case

> has

> > > reported

> > > > > (based on his tests) that he is a dangerous psychopath

and it

> > > would be a

> > > > > danger to society if he was released.

> > > > >

> > > > > The native's mother is keen on an appeal to the highest

> court,

> > > though the

> > > > > lawyers have advised her that the appeal may not be

> successful in

> > > view of

> > > > > the psychiatrist opinion.

> > > > >

> > > > > His chart is interesting. Based on the details

available

> with the

> > > > > authorities, the chart (D-1)shows 4 planets in

exaltation, a

> Gaja

> > > kesari

> > > > > yoga, and except for the 4H being badly afflicted, it

shows

> a good

> > > chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > *Birth details: May 7, 1982, time: 10:01 am, Nagpur,

India. *

> > > > >

> > > > > *Here are the questions from a practical standpoint:*

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Is it possible that he could have committed such

serious

> crimes?

> > > > > 2. He believes that he was completely framed, and that

his

> defence

> > > > > lawyer (appointed by the State) did a poor job. Was

> miscarriage

> > > of justice

> > > > > possible?

> > > > > 3. Is an appeal likely to be successful? The chances

that the

> > > appeal

> > > > > may be entertained seems slim, given the psychiatrist

> opinion.

> > > > > 4. Are there any remedial measures possible to improve

the

> state of

> > > > > affairs?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > *From an astrological standpoint:*

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. What aspects in the chart could indicate such

deviant

> sexual

> > > > > behavior?

> > > > > 2. What aspects in the chart could indicate such a long

> prison

> > > term?

> > > > > 3. Does he inherently have psychopathic tendency or is

he a

> victim

> > > > > of circumstances? How does that one judge that?

> > > > > 4. Is there a way to show that he was sexually abused

> himself when

> > > > > he was a child? How does one see that?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Given the seriousness of the situation, and given that

it is

> a very

> > > > > interesting case, may I request the learned astrologers

give

> a

> > > more detailed

> > > > > comprehensive response.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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Thanks Sreenadh,

 

I am interested in your critic on Kunda method. Also any comment on navanmsha -dwadashamsha would be great. Some people use that to ascertain male or female birth.

 

....

On 6/28/07, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Pandit ji,The real problem is that I usually get enough free time only on Saturday and Sunday. This Saturday I will sit on that will prepare an article on Birth time rectification methods and will upload it in the group. Note: As of Kunda rectification method is concerned, to be brief,Kunda Longitude = Lagna longitude X 81 This should fall in the star or trine star of the native – here by star we mean the star in which Moon is placed, i.e Janma Nakshatra. If this is not happening, proper adjustment is done in time by adding or decreasing 30 sec each so that the Kunda Longitude falls on the Janma Nakshatra trines. This method helps only for a maximum correction of 3 minutes.I will elaborate on the same with examples in on Saturday along with the discussion of other methods.Love,Sreenadh

, Panditji <navagraha wrote:>> Namaste Sreenadh,> > I was reading you article on birth time rectification. Good info. Are you> planning to elaborate on that article.> Kunda method is one of the methods described there. Aslo the method using> Yamas and tatwas needs elaboration. The particular chart is discussed but

> what happens for other scenarios is not discussed. I am sure that was not> the intent of the article, but it wouls be great if it is formalized into a> writeup.> > Thanks> ...

> > > On 6/24/07, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:> >> > Dear Pandit ji,> > Yes, it is time that we should go back to normal astrological> > discussions. Today I was engaged in completing one article [yes, in> > sequence with the current unending story of replying to Kaul :)],> > and will post it today (a pdf doc).> > From tomorrow onwards we will start with this chart itself. Of> > course in the next post I will clarify the Kunda rectification

> > method as well.> > Love,> > Sreenadh> >> >

 

<%40>,> > Panditji> > <navagraha@> wrote:> > >> > > Sreenadhji,> > >

> > > Any comments on this chart. Also could you please elaborate the> > kunda method> > > of rectification.> > >> > > Thanks> > >> > > ...

> > >> > >> > > On 6/9/07, Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:> > > >> > > > BT: 7th May 1982, 10.01 AM, Nagpur, India.> > > > Rectified BT: BT: 7th May 1982, 10.02.30 AM, Nagpur, India.> > > > Log: 75 E 25 Lat: 29 N 39> > > > Ayanamsa: True Ayanamsa of Chandrahari (46 min more than Lahari)> > > > Year length used for Dasa calculation: 360 days savanna year

> > > >> > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa> > > >> > > > Lagna 25 Ge 30' 30.73 " Puna 2 Ge Ta> > > > Sun - AmK 21 Ar 55' 55.04 " Bhar 3 Ar Li> > > > Moon - MK 12 Li 24' 46.35 " Swat 2 Li Cp> > > > Mars ® - DK 6 Vi 08' 28.66 " UPha 3 Vi Aq> > > > Mercury - BK 13 Ta 00' 45.54 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar> > > > Jupiter ® - PiK 9 Li 40' 29.98 " Swat 1 Li Sg> > > > Venus - PK 8 Pi 36' 59.44 " UBha 2 Pi Vi> > > > Saturn ® - AK 22 Vi 31' 11.63 " Hast 4 Vi Cn> > > > Rahu - GK 22 Ge 07' 45.94 " Puna 1 Ge Ar> > > > Ketu 22 Sg 07' 45.94 " PSha 3 Sg Li> > > > Gulika 19 Ta 29' 37.56 " Rohi 3 Ta Ge

> > > > Kunda 26 Ge 11' 29.36 " Puna 2 Ge Ta> > > >> > > > Rectification: For 10.02.30 the Kunda Lagna falls on Punarvasu> > (Lagma> > > > sputa star) itself, and therefore, it is assumed that the given> > birth> > > > time is correct.> > > > Primary Analysis> > > > ================> > > > * Ve and Su exalted in natal chart, but both Ve and Su

> > debilitated in> > > > Navamsa.> > > > * Ju retrograde and is in 5th with Mo providing a powerful> > unmade yoga> > > > (indicating a psychological patient), in Navamsa Ju is in own

> > house.> > > > (As per Lahari Ayanamsa Ju is also debilitated in Navamsa)> > > > * Lagna lord in 12th and the navamsa of lagna lord is 12th from> > the> > > > sign in which lagna lord is placed (

i.e. Lagnadhipa navamsa> > falls on> > > > 11th from lagna)> > > > * 4th house afflicted with 2 powerful malifics Ma and Sa,> > indicating a> > > > fallen (immoral) individual.

> > > > * As indicated by Ju and Mo in 5th and Ve in 10th and Su in> > 11th, he> > > > would be a successful individual in his early years of life,> > like an> > > > over voltage bulb (Ju in 5th – house of intelligence)

> > > > * As indicated by Ma-Sa in 4th, born in an culturally fallen,> > immoral> > > > poor family, the native attained life success because of his> > unique> > > > abilities and successful profession.

> > > > * Ve in 10th from Lagna indicates that the native will have> > income> > > > from women and job related to them. Sa aspecting Ve also> > indicate the> > > > same. Navamsa of 10th lord Ju falls in 7th house (ornaments) from> > > > Lagna in its own house. Thus the native will have a profession> > related> > > > to cloth, ornaments etc used by women, or a business related to> > > > similar things. The native should have attained all kinds of life> > > > success such as, money, house, vehicles, and every other possible> > > > luxury with in the period of Ju itself due his success in> > profession> > > > during his 20-25 years of age. (Remember that the native is only> > 25> > > > years of age now)> > > > * Me in 12th indicates insaneness or madness. Mo – Ju in 5th> > aspected> > > > by Su indicates the same. 6th lord Ma in 4th with Sa also

> > indicate the> > > > same. Thus it is a horoscope with multiple combinations that> > indicate> > > > madness or a psychic patient. The results will actualize (psychic

> > > > problem will occur) in Ju Dasa Mo antara or Sa Dasa Mars Antara> > (). No> > > > doubt the horoscope is that of a psychopath. As per Vimsottari> > dasa> > > > from Moon Aug 2003 – Dec 2004 is Ju-Mo period; As per Vimsottari> > dasa> > > > from Lagna April 2004 – May 2005 is Sa-Ma. Thus period of madness> > > > should be April 2004 – Dec 2004 as indicated by both of them. The

> > > > native's madness should had become uncontrolled and clearly> > visible to> > > > the world in this period.> > > > * 8th lord Sa aspecting Lagna, Sa with Ma in 4th, Me in 12th

> > indicate> > > > a combination for bondage. The native will suffer prison> > sentence for> > > > long, possibly though out the Saturn period of 19 years.> > > > * Even the favoring authorities (as indicated by Su in 11th) can> > not> > > > help in stopping his fate which is sure to put him in prison for> > long.> > > > * Ma-Sa in 4th indicates that the activities of the native

would> > be> > > > destructive for the society but beneficial to the worldly> > success of> > > > the native (till the tide changes). He will not repent and the> > trend

> > > > will be followed throughout his life.> > > > * The Me desa would be no better than the Sa dasa going through> > tides,> > > > turbulences and occasional madness.

> > > > * The native will again become famous, well known and successful> > only> > > > at the end of his life in Ve dasa. He will follow the same> > profession> > > > and will become well known in the same after the age of 65 years.> > > > Remark:> > > > =======> > > > This is the horoscope of a psychopath, with exceptional> > intelligence> > > > and professional success. He will for sure suffer the long prison> > > > sentence for 19 years for sure. His would be a unique life, and> > he> > > > will come back to popularity and professional success again in> > the

> > > > late years of his life. All efforts to avoid the jail sentence is> > > > futile, remedies will not work, this being a strong result.> > > >> > > > Note: This being a very interesting horoscope with many unique

> > > > combinations, I request others to continue the discussion on the> > same.> > > > Let us see what other details we can bring out from the same.> > > > Love,

> > > > Sreenadh> > > > --- In> >

<%40>> > <%> > 40>,> > > > Panditji

> > > > <navagraha@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Namaste,> > > > >> > > > > The lagna is 26 degrees of Mithuna. Lagna is afflicted by rahu> > and> > > > shani.> > > > > Shani, mangal and guru are retrograde. Shukra is exalted and is> > > > aspected by> > > > > shani, with no controling aspect of guru, this can give strong> > sex> > > > drive. 4> > > > > malefics are in kendra. Guru is in tula rashi. Shukra, guru> > and ravi are> > > > > debilited in navansha.

> > > > >> > > > > The dasha running is guru-rahu. Not many bad influences on> > chadra to> > > > suggest> > > > > mental imbalance. Chadra is in rahu nakshatra, thats the only> > > > negative I can> > > > > say about chandra in rashi. Birth is on poornima so chadra is> > strong.> > > > >> > > > > So, yes there is a strong possibility of elevated sex drive.

> > Mangal and> > > > > shani drishti does not help to moderate shukra.> > > > >> > > > > ...> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On 6/7/07, subba_appa <

subba.iyer@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Hello Learned astrologers:> > > > > >> > > > > > The native migrated from India to a country, where the laws> > are very> > > > > > strict and punishments are severe and in some cases the legal> > > > processes has> > > > > > resulted in a clear miscarriage of justice.

> > > > > >> > > > > > The native was accused of molesting several women,> > assaulting a> > > > couple of> > > > > > women sexually and of a violent rape and all the crimes were> > > > supposedly> > > > > > committed in 6 months. this means he is a serial molester.> > > > > >> > > > > > He stood trial and claimed innocence. He was sentenced to 18> > years> > > > > > imprisonment. This happened in Sa/Ma as per Vimsottari dasa> > > > (started from> > > > > > lagna).> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am the appointed counselor for him and during all my> > > > interactions, he> > > > > > comes across as a very intelligent and a sensible person,

> > claiming> > > > > > innocence. There is definitely some incoherence in his> > > > communication and> > > > > > interaction, but it is difficult to pin it down to his

> > inherent> > > > nature, as> > > > > > someone who can be falsely accused and has to spend his time> > in> > > > prison can> > > > > > show such behavior.The official rehabilitation officer also> > finds him> > > > > > intelligent, though the psychiatrist in charge of the case> > has> > > > reported

> > > > > > (based on his tests) that he is a dangerous psychopath and it> > > > would be a> > > > > > danger to society if he was released.> > > > > >

> > > > > > The native's mother is keen on an appeal to the highest> > court,> > > > though the> > > > > > lawyers have advised her that the appeal may not be

> > successful in> > > > view of> > > > > > the psychiatrist opinion.> > > > > >> > > > > > His chart is interesting. Based on the details available

> > with the> > > > > > authorities, the chart (D-1)shows 4 planets in exaltation, a> > Gaja> > > > kesari> > > > > > yoga, and except for the 4H being badly afflicted, it shows> > a good> > > > chart.> > > > > >> > > > > > *Birth details: May 7, 1982, time: 10:01 am, Nagpur, India. *> > > > > >

> > > > > > *Here are the questions from a practical standpoint:*> > > > > >> > > > > > 1. Is it possible that he could have committed such serious

> > crimes?> > > > > > 2. He believes that he was completely framed, and that his> > defence> > > > > > lawyer (appointed by the State) did a poor job. Was> > miscarriage

> > > > of justice> > > > > > possible?> > > > > > 3. Is an appeal likely to be successful? The chances that the> > > > appeal> > > > > > may be entertained seems slim, given the psychiatrist

> > opinion.> > > > > > 4. Are there any remedial measures possible to improve the> > state of> > > > > > affairs?> > > > > >> > > > > >

> > > > > >> > > > > > *From an astrological standpoint:*> > > > > >> > > > > > 1. What aspects in the chart could indicate such deviant

> > sexual> > > > > > behavior?> > > > > > 2. What aspects in the chart could indicate such a long> > prison> > > > term?> > > > > > 3. Does he inherently have psychopathic tendency or is he a> > victim> > > > > > of circumstances? How does that one judge that?> > > > > > 4. Is there a way to show that he was sexually abused> > himself when

> > > > > > he was a child? How does one see that?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Given the seriousness of the situation, and given that it is> > a very> > > > > > interesting case, may I request the learned astrologers give> > a> > > > more detailed> > > > > > comprehensive response.

> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >

> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >>

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Dear Sreenadh Ji

 

please take any time you wish,

I am 63 years old, and learning Vedic Astrology for 7 years now

I will be a student for still 2 lifetimes,

so great is the Wisdom of Vedic Astrology,

so I have time and will like to wait,

 

but we have in Western Astrology, which I have studied many years before

Vedic Astrology,

not a really really secure System, to make a Birthtime-Rectification.

 

so I would like to study your methode,

be please so kind, and only detail me , when you divide or multiply

something,

because that is for me always a miracle,

when I have no Idea , how it is meant.

 

but take your time, how long it doesnt matter,

 

with nice greetings

Gerlinde

 

 

-

" Sreenadh " <sreesog

 

Thursday, June 28, 2007 1:27 PM

Re: Innocent person or a dangerous

psychopath? Please help analyze.

 

 

Dear Gerlinde ji,

Yes, I will. Please give me one or two days time to prepare a

detailed article on the same.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, " G. F. " <gefri

wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadh ji

>

> may I also ask you for more lecturing this Rectifications Methode,

> and as I am a European female, I dont know the mathematical

Methode,

> please be so kind and detail it for me,

> when ever you have time.

>

> nice greetings

> Gerlinde

> -

> Panditji

>

> Wednesday, June 27, 2007 7:21 PM

> Re: Re: Innocent person or a

dangerous psychopath? Please help analyze.

>

>

> Namaste Sreenadh,

>

> I was reading you article on birth time rectification. Good info.

Are you planning to elaborate on that article.

> Kunda method is one of the methods described there. Aslo the

method using Yamas and tatwas needs elaboration. The particular chart

is discussed but what happens for other scenarios is not discussed. I

am sure that was not the intent of the article, but it wouls be great

if it is formalized into a writeup.

>

> Thanks

> ...

>

>

> On 6/24/07, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

> Dear Pandit ji,

> Yes, it is time that we should go back to normal astrological

> discussions. Today I was engaged in completing one article

[yes, in

> sequence with the current unending story of replying to

Kaul :)],

> and will post it today (a pdf doc).

> From tomorrow onwards we will start with this chart itself. Of

> course in the next post I will clarify the Kunda rectification

> method as well.

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , Panditji

> <navagraha@> wrote:

> >

> > Sreenadhji,

> >

> > Any comments on this chart. Also could you please elaborate

the

> kunda method

> > of rectification.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > ...

> >

> >

>

>

> > On 6/9/07, Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:

> > >

> > > BT: 7th May 1982, 10.01 AM, Nagpur, India.

> > > Rectified BT: BT: 7th May 1982, 10.02.30 AM, Nagpur, India.

> > > Log: 75 E 25 Lat: 29 N 39

> > > Ayanamsa: True Ayanamsa of Chandrahari (46 min more than

Lahari)

> > > Year length used for Dasa calculation: 360 days savanna year

> > >

> > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

> > >

> > > Lagna 25 Ge 30' 30.73 " Puna 2 Ge Ta

> > > Sun - AmK 21 Ar 55' 55.04 " Bhar 3 Ar Li

> > > Moon - MK 12 Li 24' 46.35 " Swat 2 Li Cp

> > > Mars ® - DK 6 Vi 08' 28.66 " UPha 3 Vi Aq

> > > Mercury - BK 13 Ta 00' 45.54 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar

> > > Jupiter ® - PiK 9 Li 40' 29.98 " Swat 1 Li Sg

> > > Venus - PK 8 Pi 36' 59.44 " UBha 2 Pi Vi

> > > Saturn ® - AK 22 Vi 31' 11.63 " Hast 4 Vi Cn

> > > Rahu - GK 22 Ge 07' 45.94 " Puna 1 Ge Ar

> > > Ketu 22 Sg 07' 45.94 " PSha 3 Sg Li

> > > Gulika 19 Ta 29' 37.56 " Rohi 3 Ta Ge

> > > Kunda 26 Ge 11' 29.36 " Puna 2 Ge Ta

> > >

> > > Rectification: For 10.02.30 the Kunda Lagna falls on

Punarvasu

> (Lagma

> > > sputa star) itself, and therefore, it is assumed that the

given

> birth

> > > time is correct.

> > > Primary Analysis

> > > ================

> > > * Ve and Su exalted in natal chart, but both Ve and Su

> debilitated in

> > > Navamsa.

> > > * Ju retrograde and is in 5th with Mo providing a powerful

> unmade yoga

> > > (indicating a psychological patient), in Navamsa Ju is in

own

> house.

> > > (As per Lahari Ayanamsa Ju is also debilitated in Navamsa)

> > > * Lagna lord in 12th and the navamsa of lagna lord is 12th

from

> the

> > > sign in which lagna lord is placed (i.e. Lagnadhipa navamsa

> falls on

> > > 11th from lagna)

> > > * 4th house afflicted with 2 powerful malifics Ma and Sa,

> indicating a

> > > fallen (immoral) individual.

> > > * As indicated by Ju and Mo in 5th and Ve in 10th and Su in

> 11th, he

> > > would be a successful individual in his early years of

life,

> like an

> > > over voltage bulb (Ju in 5th - house of intelligence)

> > > * As indicated by Ma-Sa in 4th, born in an culturally

fallen,

> immoral

> > > poor family, the native attained life success because of

his

> unique

> > > abilities and successful profession.

> > > * Ve in 10th from Lagna indicates that the native will have

> income

> > > from women and job related to them. Sa aspecting Ve also

> indicate the

> > > same. Navamsa of 10th lord Ju falls in 7th house

(ornaments) from

> > > Lagna in its own house. Thus the native will have a

profession

> related

> > > to cloth, ornaments etc used by women, or a business

related to

> > > similar things. The native should have attained all kinds

of life

> > > success such as, money, house, vehicles, and every other

possible

> > > luxury with in the period of Ju itself due his success in

> profession

> > > during his 20-25 years of age. (Remember that the native is

only

> 25

> > > years of age now)

> > > * Me in 12th indicates insaneness or madness. Mo - Ju in

5th

> aspected

> > > by Su indicates the same. 6th lord Ma in 4th with Sa also

> indicate the

> > > same. Thus it is a horoscope with multiple combinations

that

> indicate

> > > madness or a psychic patient. The results will actualize

(psychic

> > > problem will occur) in Ju Dasa Mo antara or Sa Dasa Mars

Antara

> (). No

> > > doubt the horoscope is that of a psychopath. As per

Vimsottari

> dasa

> > > from Moon Aug 2003 - Dec 2004 is Ju-Mo period; As per

Vimsottari

> dasa

> > > from Lagna April 2004 - May 2005 is Sa-Ma. Thus period of

madness

> > > should be April 2004 - Dec 2004 as indicated by both of

them. The

> > > native's madness should had become uncontrolled and clearly

> visible to

> > > the world in this period.

> > > * 8th lord Sa aspecting Lagna, Sa with Ma in 4th, Me in

12th

> indicate

> > > a combination for bondage. The native will suffer prison

> sentence for

> > > long, possibly though out the Saturn period of 19 years.

> > > * Even the favoring authorities (as indicated by Su in

11th) can

> not

> > > help in stopping his fate which is sure to put him in

prison for

> long.

> > > * Ma-Sa in 4th indicates that the activities of the native

would

> be

> > > destructive for the society but beneficial to the worldly

> success of

> > > the native (till the tide changes). He will not repent and

the

> trend

> > > will be followed throughout his life.

> > > * The Me desa would be no better than the Sa dasa going

through

> tides,

> > > turbulences and occasional madness.

> > > * The native will again become famous, well known and

successful

> only

> > > at the end of his life in Ve dasa. He will follow the same

> profession

> > > and will become well known in the same after the age of 65

years.

> > > Remark:

> > > =======

> > > This is the horoscope of a psychopath, with exceptional

> intelligence

> > > and professional success. He will for sure suffer the long

prison

> > > sentence for 19 years for sure. His would be a unique life,

and

> he

> > > will come back to popularity and professional success again

in

> the

> > > late years of his life. All efforts to avoid the jail

sentence is

> > > futile, remedies will not work, this being a strong result.

> > >

> > > Note: This being a very interesting horoscope with many

unique

> > > combinations, I request others to continue the discussion

on the

> same.

> > > Let us see what other details we can bring out from the

same.

> > > Love,

> > > Sreenadh

> > > --- In

>

>

<%

> 40>,

>

> > > Panditji

> > > <navagraha@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste,

> > > >

> > > > The lagna is 26 degrees of Mithuna. Lagna is afflicted by

rahu

> and

> > > shani.

> > > > Shani, mangal and guru are retrograde. Shukra is exalted

and is

> > > aspected by

> > > > shani, with no controling aspect of guru, this can give

strong

> sex

> > > drive. 4

> > > > malefics are in kendra. Guru is in tula rashi. Shukra,

guru

> and ravi are

> > > > debilited in navansha.

> > > >

> > > > The dasha running is guru-rahu.. Not many bad influences

on

> chadra to

> > > suggest

> > > > mental imbalance. Chadra is in rahu nakshatra, thats the

only

> > > negative I can

> > > > say about chandra in rashi. Birth is on poornima so

chadra is

> strong.

> > > >

> > > > So, yes there is a strong possibility of elevated sex

drive.

> Mangal and

> > > > shani drishti does not help to moderate shukra.

> > > >

> > > > ...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On 6/7/07, subba_appa <subba.iyer@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello Learned astrologers:

> > > > >

> > > > > The native migrated from India to a country, where the

laws

> are very

> > > > > strict and punishments are severe and in some cases the

legal

> > > processes has

> > > > > resulted in a clear miscarriage of justice.

> > > > >

> > > > > The native was accused of molesting several women,

> assaulting a

> > > couple of

> > > > > women sexually and of a violent rape and all the crimes

were

> > > supposedly

> > > > > committed in 6 months. this means he is a serial

molester.

> > > > >

> > > > > He stood trial and claimed innocence. He was sentenced

to 18

> years

> > > > > imprisonment. This happened in Sa/Ma as per Vimsottari

dasa

> > > (started from

> > > > > lagna).

> > > > >

> > > > > I am the appointed counselor for him and during all my

> > > interactions, he

> > > > > comes across as a very intelligent and a sensible

person,

> claiming

> > > > > innocence. There is definitely some incoherence in his

> > > communication and

> > > > > interaction, but it is difficult to pin it down to his

> inherent

> > > nature, as

> > > > > someone who can be falsely accused and has to spend his

time

> in

> > > prison can

> > > > > show such behavior.The official rehabilitation officer

also

> finds him

> > > > > intelligent, though the psychiatrist in charge of the

case

> has

> > > reported

> > > > > (based on his tests) that he is a dangerous psychopath

and it

> > > would be a

> > > > > danger to society if he was released.

> > > > >

> > > > > The native's mother is keen on an appeal to the highest

> court,

> > > though the

> > > > > lawyers have advised her that the appeal may not be

> successful in

> > > view of

> > > > > the psychiatrist opinion.

> > > > >

> > > > > His chart is interesting. Based on the details

available

> with the

> > > > > authorities, the chart (D-1)shows 4 planets in

exaltation, a

> Gaja

> > > kesari

> > > > > yoga, and except for the 4H being badly afflicted, it

shows

> a good

> > > chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > *Birth details: May 7, 1982, time: 10:01 am, Nagpur,

India. *

> > > > >

> > > > > *Here are the questions from a practical standpoint:*

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Is it possible that he could have committed such

serious

> crimes?

> > > > > 2. He believes that he was completely framed, and that

his

> defence

> > > > > lawyer (appointed by the State) did a poor job. Was

> miscarriage

> > > of justice

> > > > > possible?

> > > > > 3. Is an appeal likely to be successful? The chances

that the

> > > appeal

> > > > > may be entertained seems slim, given the psychiatrist

> opinion.

> > > > > 4. Are there any remedial measures possible to improve

the

> state of

> > > > > affairs?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > *From an astrological standpoint:*

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. What aspects in the chart could indicate such

deviant

> sexual

> > > > > behavior?

> > > > > 2. What aspects in the chart could indicate such a long

> prison

> > > term?

> > > > > 3. Does he inherently have psychopathic tendency or is

he a

> victim

> > > > > of circumstances? How does that one judge that?

> > > > > 4. Is there a way to show that he was sexually abused

> himself when

> > > > > he was a child? How does one see that?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Given the seriousness of the situation, and given that

it is

> a very

> > > > > interesting case, may I request the learned astrologers

give

> a

> > > more detailed

> > > > > comprehensive response.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Sreenadh Ji,

Along with Kunda rectification, if we use Tattwa and Antara Tattwa methods and Pranapada methods,the birth times can be rectified further almost accurately.In Tattwa and Antara Tattwa method,we have five Tattwas ie., Agni,Jala,Vayu,Prithvi and Akasha Tattwas daily rising with Agni, Akasha and Prithvi Tattwas are male while Jala and Vayu Tattwas are female.These can be further tuned to Antara Tattwas accordingly and for almost every 3 minutes we get the birth in 3 types of Lagnas ie.,Chara,Sthira and Dwiswabhava with Janma Nakshatra lords.This time can be further tuned by Kunda and Prana Pada methods to get almost accurate birth times.

With Regards,

Ramadas Rao.

 

 

From: sreesogDate: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:25:56 +0000 Re: Innocent person or a dangerous psychopath? Please help analyze.

 

 

 

Dear Pandit ji,The real problem is that I usually get enough free time only on Saturday and Sunday. This Saturday I will sit on that will prepare an article on Birth time rectification methods and will upload it in the group. Note: As of Kunda rectification method is concerned, to be brief,Kunda Longitude = Lagna longitude X 81 This should fall in the star or trine star of the native – here by star we mean the star in which Moon is placed, i.e Janma Nakshatra. If this is not happening, proper adjustment is done in time by adding or decreasing 30 sec each so that the Kunda Longitude falls on the Janma Nakshatra trines. This method helps only for a maximum correction of 3 minutes.I will elaborate on the same with examples in on Saturday along with the discussion of other methods.Love,Sreenadh , Panditji <navagraha wrote:>> Namaste Sreenadh,> > I was reading you article on birth time rectification. Good info. Are you> planning to elaborate on that article.> Kunda method is one of the methods described there. Aslo the method using> Yamas and tatwas needs elaboration. The particular chart is discussed but> what happens for other scenarios is not discussed. I am sure that was not> the intent of the article, but it wouls be great if it is formalized into a> writeup.> > Thanks> ...> > > On 6/24/07, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:> >> > Dear Pandit ji,> > Yes, it is time that we should go back to normal astrological> > discussions. Today I was engaged in completing one article [yes, in> > sequence with the current unending story of replying to Kaul :)],> > and will post it today (a pdf doc).> > From tomorrow onwards we will start with this chart itself. Of> > course in the next post I will clarify the Kunda rectification> > method as well.> > Love,> > Sreenadh> >> > <%40>,> > Panditji> > <navagraha@> wrote:> > >> > > Sreenadhji,> > >> > > Any comments on this chart. Also could you please elaborate the> > kunda method> > > of rectification.> > >> > > Thanks> > >> > > ...> > >> > >> > > On 6/9/07, Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:> > > >> > > > BT: 7th May 1982, 10.01 AM, Nagpur, India.> > > > Rectified BT: BT: 7th May 1982, 10.02.30 AM, Nagpur, India.> > > > Log: 75 E 25 Lat: 29 N 39> > > > Ayanamsa: True Ayanamsa of Chandrahari (46 min more than Lahari)> > > > Year length used for Dasa calculation: 360 days savanna year> > > >> > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa> > > >> > > > Lagna 25 Ge 30' 30.73" Puna 2 Ge Ta> > > > Sun - AmK 21 Ar 55' 55.04" Bhar 3 Ar Li> > > > Moon - MK 12 Li 24' 46.35" Swat 2 Li Cp> > > > Mars ® - DK 6 Vi 08' 28.66" UPha 3 Vi Aq> > > > Mercury - BK 13 Ta 00' 45.54" Rohi 1 Ta Ar> > > > Jupiter ® - PiK 9 Li 40' 29.98" Swat 1 Li Sg> > > > Venus - PK 8 Pi 36' 59.44" UBha 2 Pi Vi> > > > Saturn ® - AK 22 Vi 31' 11.63" Hast 4 Vi Cn> > > > Rahu - GK 22 Ge 07' 45.94" Puna 1 Ge Ar> > > > Ketu 22 Sg 07' 45.94" PSha 3 Sg Li> > > > Gulika 19 Ta 29' 37.56" Rohi 3 Ta Ge> > > > Kunda 26 Ge 11' 29.36" Puna 2 Ge Ta> > > >> > > > Rectification: For 10.02.30 the Kunda Lagna falls on Punarvasu> > (Lagma> > > > sputa star) itself, and therefore, it is assumed that the given> > birth> > > > time is correct.> > > > Primary Analysis> > > > ================> > > > * Ve and Su exalted in natal chart, but both Ve and Su> > debilitated in> > > > Navamsa.> > > > * Ju retrograde and is in 5th with Mo providing a powerful> > unmade yoga> > > > (indicating a psychological patient), in Navamsa Ju is in own> > house.> > > > (As per Lahari Ayanamsa Ju is also debilitated in Navamsa)> > > > * Lagna lord in 12th and the navamsa of lagna lord is 12th from> > the> > > > sign in which lagna lord is placed (i.e. Lagnadhipa navamsa> > falls on> > > > 11th from lagna)> > > > * 4th house afflicted with 2 powerful malifics Ma and Sa,> > indicating a> > > > fallen (immoral) individual.> > > > * As indicated by Ju and Mo in 5th and Ve in 10th and Su in> > 11th, he> > > > would be a successful individual in his early years of life,> > like an> > > > over voltage bulb (Ju in 5th – house of intelligence)> > > > * As indicated by Ma-Sa in 4th, born in an culturally fallen,> > immoral> > > > poor family, the native attained life success because of his> > unique> > > > abilities and successful profession.> > > > * Ve in 10th from Lagna indicates that the native will have> > income> > > > from women and job related to them. Sa aspecting Ve also> > indicate the> > > > same. Navamsa of 10th lord Ju falls in 7th house (ornaments) from> > > > Lagna in its own house. Thus the native will have a profession> > related> > > > to cloth, ornaments etc used by women, or a business related to> > > > similar things. The native should have attained all kinds of life> > > > success such as, money, house, vehicles, and every other possible> > > > luxury with in the period of Ju itself due his success in> > profession> > > > during his 20-25 years of age. (Remember that the native is only> > 25> > > > years of age now)> > > > * Me in 12th indicates insaneness or madness. Mo – Ju in 5th> > aspected> > > > by Su indicates the same. 6th lord Ma in 4th with Sa also> > indicate the> > > > same. Thus it is a horoscope with multiple combinations that> > indicate> > > > madness or a psychic patient. The results will actualize (psychic> > > > problem will occur) in Ju Dasa Mo antara or Sa Dasa Mars Antara> > (). No> > > > doubt the horoscope is that of a psychopath. As per Vimsottari> > dasa> > > > from Moon Aug 2003 – Dec 2004 is Ju-Mo period; As per Vimsottari> > dasa> > > > from Lagna April 2004 – May 2005 is Sa-Ma. Thus period of madness> > > > should be April 2004 – Dec 2004 as indicated by both of them. The> > > > native's madness should had become uncontrolled and clearly> > visible to> > > > the world in this period.> > > > * 8th lord Sa aspecting Lagna, Sa with Ma in 4th, Me in 12th> > indicate> > > > a combination for bondage. The native will suffer prison> > sentence for> > > > long, possibly though out the Saturn period of 19 years.> > > > * Even the favoring authorities (as indicated by Su in 11th) can> > not> > > > help in stopping his fate which is sure to put him in prison for> > long.> > > > * Ma-Sa in 4th indicates that the activities of the native would> > be> > > > destructive for the society but beneficial to the worldly> > success of> > > > the native (till the tide changes). He will not repent and the> > trend> > > > will be followed throughout his life.> > > > * The Me desa would be no better than the Sa dasa going through> > tides,> > > > turbulences and occasional madness.> > > > * The native will again become famous, well known and successful> > only> > > > at the end of his life in Ve dasa. He will follow the same> > profession> > > > and will become well known in the same after the age of 65 years.> > > > Remark:> > > > =======> > > > This is the horoscope of a psychopath, with exceptional> > intelligence> > > > and professional success. He will for sure suffer the long prison> > > > sentence for 19 years for sure. His would be a unique life, and> > he> > > > will come back to popularity and professional success again in> > the> > > > late years of his life. All efforts to avoid the jail sentence is> > > > futile, remedies will not work, this being a strong result.> > > >> > > > Note: This being a very interesting horoscope with many unique> > > > combinations, I request others to continue the discussion on the> > same.> > > > Let us see what other details we can bring out from the same.> > > > Love,> > > > Sreenadh> > > > --- In> > <%40>> > <%> > 40>,> > > > Panditji> > > > <navagraha@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Namaste,> > > > >> > > > > The lagna is 26 degrees of Mithuna. Lagna is afflicted by rahu> > and> > > > shani.> > > > > Shani, mangal and guru are retrograde. Shukra is exalted and is> > > > aspected by> > > > > shani, with no controling aspect of guru, this can give strong> > sex> > > > drive. 4> > > > > malefics are in kendra. Guru is in tula rashi. Shukra, guru> > and ravi are> > > > > debilited in navansha.> > > > >> > > > > The dasha running is guru-rahu. Not many bad influences on> > chadra to> > > > suggest> > > > > mental imbalance. Chadra is in rahu nakshatra, thats the only> > > > negative I can> > > > > say about chandra in rashi. Birth is on poornima so chadra is> > strong.> > > > >> > > > > So, yes there is a strong possibility of elevated sex drive.> > Mangal and> > > > > shani drishti does not help to moderate shukra.> > > > >> > > > > ...> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On 6/7/07, subba_appa <subba.iyer@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Hello Learned astrologers:> > > > > >> > > > > > The native migrated from India to a country, where the laws> > are very> > > > > > strict and punishments are severe and in some cases the legal> > > > processes has> > > > > > resulted in a clear miscarriage of justice.> > > > > >> > > > > > The native was accused of molesting several women,> > assaulting a> > > > couple of> > > > > > women sexually and of a violent rape and all the crimes were> > > > supposedly> > > > > > committed in 6 months. this means he is a serial molester.> > > > > >> > > > > > He stood trial and claimed innocence. He was sentenced to 18> > years> > > > > > imprisonment. This happened in Sa/Ma as per Vimsottari dasa> > > > (started from> > > > > > lagna).> > > > > >> > > > > > I am the appointed counselor for him and during all my> > > > interactions, he> > > > > > comes across as a very intelligent and a sensible person,> > claiming> > > > > > innocence. There is definitely some incoherence in his> > > > communication and> > > > > > interaction, but it is difficult to pin it down to his> > inherent> > > > nature, as> > > > > > someone who can be falsely accused and has to spend his time> > in> > > > prison can> > > > > > show such behavior.The official rehabilitation officer also> > finds him> > > > > > intelligent, though the psychiatrist in charge of the case> > has> > > > reported> > > > > > (based on his tests) that he is a dangerous psychopath and it> > > > would be a> > > > > > danger to society if he was released.> > > > > >> > > > > > The native's mother is keen on an appeal to the highest> > court,> > > > though the> > > > > > lawyers have advised her that the appeal may not be> > successful in> > > > view of> > > > > > the psychiatrist opinion.> > > > > >> > > > > > His chart is interesting. Based on the details available> > with the> > > > > > authorities, the chart (D-1)shows 4 planets in exaltation, a> > Gaja> > > > kesari> > > > > > yoga, and except for the 4H being badly afflicted, it shows> > a good> > > > chart.> > > > > >> > > > > > *Birth details: May 7, 1982, time: 10:01 am, Nagpur, India. *> > > > > >> > > > > > *Here are the questions from a practical standpoint:*> > > > > >> > > > > > 1. Is it possible that he could have committed such serious> > crimes?> > > > > > 2. He believes that he was completely framed, and that his> > defence> > > > > > lawyer (appointed by the State) did a poor job. Was> > miscarriage> > > > of justice> > > > > > possible?> > > > > > 3. Is an appeal likely to be successful? The chances that the> > > > appeal> > > > > > may be entertained seems slim, given the psychiatrist> > opinion.> > > > > > 4. Are there any remedial measures possible to improve the> > state of> > > > > > affairs?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > *From an astrological standpoint:*> > > > > >> > > > > > 1. What aspects in the chart could indicate such deviant> > sexual> > > > > > behavior?> > > > > > 2. What aspects in the chart could indicate such a long> > prison> > > > term?> > > > > > 3. Does he inherently have psychopathic tendency or is he a> > victim> > > > > > of circumstances? How does that one judge that?> > > > > > 4. Is there a way to show that he was sexually abused> > himself when> > > > > > he was a child? How does one see that?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Given the seriousness of the situation, and given that it is> > a very> > > > > > interesting case, may I request the learned astrologers give> > a> > > > more detailed> > > > > > comprehensive response.> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> Make every IM count. Download and join the i’m Initiative now. It’s free.   Make it count!

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Dear Ramdas ji,

I will try to cover both Tatwa method and Pranapada also in my

article.

 

But one question :) When Parasara gives the results of Pranapada for

all the 12 houses how we are supposed to use it for birth time

rectification? Further Parasara never advises us to use it for Birth

time rectification. Can you shed more light on this?

 

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, HosabettuRamadas Rao

<ramadasrao wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadh Ji,

> Along with Kunda rectification, if we use Tattwa and Antara Tattwa

methods and Pranapada methods,the birth times can be rectified

further almost accurately.In Tattwa and Antara Tattwa method,we have

five Tattwas ie., Agni,Jala,Vayu,Prithvi and Akasha Tattwas daily

rising with Agni, Akasha and Prithvi Tattwas are male while Jala and

Vayu Tattwas are female.These can be further tuned to Antara Tattwas

accordingly and for almost every 3 minutes we get the birth in 3

types of Lagnas ie.,Chara,Sthira and Dwiswabhava with Janma Nakshatra

lords.This time can be further tuned by Kunda and Prana Pada methods

to get almost accurate birth times.

> With Regards,

> Ramadas Rao.

>

>

> : sreesog: Thu, 28 Jun 2007

11:25:56 +0000 Re: Innocent person

or a dangerous psychopath? Please help analyze.

>

>

>

>

> Dear Pandit ji,The real problem is that I usually get enough free

time only on Saturday and Sunday. This Saturday I will sit on that

will prepare an article on Birth time rectification methods and will

upload it in the group. Note: As of Kunda rectification method is

concerned, to be brief,Kunda Longitude = Lagna longitude X 81 This

should fall in the star or trine star of the native – here by star we

mean the star in which Moon is placed, i.e Janma Nakshatra. If this

is not happening, proper adjustment is done in time by adding or

decreasing 30 sec each so that the Kunda Longitude falls on the Janma

Nakshatra trines. This method helps only for a maximum correction of

3 minutes.I will elaborate on the same with examples in on Saturday

along with the discussion of other methods.Love,Sreenadh--- In

, Panditji <navagraha@>

wrote:>> Namaste Sreenadh,> > I was reading you article on birth time

rectification. Good info. Are you> planning to elaborate on that

article.> Kunda method is one of the methods described there. Aslo

the method using> Yamas and tatwas needs elaboration. The particular

chart is discussed but> what happens for other scenarios is not

discussed. I am sure that was not> the intent of the article, but it

wouls be great if it is formalized into a> writeup.> > Thanks> ...> >

> On 6/24/07, Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:> >> > Dear Pandit ji,> >

Yes, it is time that we should go back to normal astrological> >

discussions. Today I was engaged in completing one article [yes, in>

> sequence with the current unending story of replying to Kaul :)],>

> and will post it today (a pdf doc).> > From tomorrow onwards we

will start with this chart itself. Of> > course in the next post I

will clarify the Kunda rectification> > method as well.> > Love,> >

Sreenadh> >> > --- In

<%

40>,> > Panditji> > <navagraha@> wrote:> > >> > >

Sreenadhji,> > >> > > Any comments on this chart. Also could you

please elaborate the> > kunda method> > > of rectification.> > >> > >

Thanks> > >> > > ...> > >> > >> > > On 6/9/07, Sreenadh <sreesog@>

wrote:> > > >> > > > BT: 7th May 1982, 10.01 AM, Nagpur, India.> > >

> Rectified BT: BT: 7th May 1982, 10.02.30 AM, Nagpur, India.> > > >

Log: 75 E 25 Lat: 29 N 39> > > > Ayanamsa: True Ayanamsa of

Chandrahari (46 min more than Lahari)> > > > Year length used for

Dasa calculation: 360 days savanna year> > > >> > > > Body Longitude

Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa> > > >> > > > Lagna 25 Ge 30' 30.73 " Puna

2 Ge Ta> > > > Sun - AmK 21 Ar 55' 55.04 " Bhar 3 Ar Li> > > > Moon -

MK 12 Li 24' 46.35 " Swat 2 Li Cp> > > > Mars ® - DK 6 Vi 08' 28.66 "

UPha 3 Vi Aq> > > > Mercury - BK 13 Ta 00' 45.54 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar> > > >

Jupiter ® - PiK 9 Li 40' 29.98 " Swat 1 Li Sg> > > > Venus - PK 8 Pi

36' 59.44 " UBha 2 Pi Vi> > > > Saturn ® - AK 22 Vi 31' 11.63 " Hast

4 Vi Cn> > > > Rahu - GK 22 Ge 07' 45.94 " Puna 1 Ge Ar> > > > Ketu 22

Sg 07' 45.94 " PSha 3 Sg Li> > > > Gulika 19 Ta 29' 37.56 " Rohi 3 Ta

Ge> > > > Kunda 26 Ge 11' 29.36 " Puna 2 Ge Ta> > > >> > > >

Rectification: For 10.02.30 the Kunda Lagna falls on Punarvasu> >

(Lagma> > > > sputa star) itself, and therefore, it is assumed that

the given> > birth> > > > time is correct.> > > > Primary Analysis> >

> > ================> > > > * Ve and Su exalted in natal chart, but

both Ve and Su> > debilitated in> > > > Navamsa.> > > > * Ju

retrograde and is in 5th with Mo providing a powerful> > unmade yoga>

> > > (indicating a psychological patient), in Navamsa Ju is in own>

> house.> > > > (As per Lahari Ayanamsa Ju is also debilitated in

Navamsa)> > > > * Lagna lord in 12th and the navamsa of lagna lord is

12th from> > the> > > > sign in which lagna lord is placed (i.e.

Lagnadhipa navamsa> > falls on> > > > 11th from lagna)> > > > * 4th

house afflicted with 2 powerful malifics Ma and Sa,> > indicating a>

> > > fallen (immoral) individual.> > > > * As indicated by Ju and Mo

in 5th and Ve in 10th and Su in> > 11th, he> > > > would be a

successful individual in his early years of life,> > like an> > > >

over voltage bulb (Ju in 5th – house of intelligence)> > > > * As

indicated by Ma-Sa in 4th, born in an culturally fallen,> > immoral>

> > > poor family, the native attained life success because of his> >

unique> > > > abilities and successful profession.> > > > * Ve in

10th from Lagna indicates that the native will have> > income> > > >

from women and job related to them. Sa aspecting Ve also> > indicate

the> > > > same. Navamsa of 10th lord Ju falls in 7th house

(ornaments) from> > > > Lagna in its own house. Thus the native will

have a profession> > related> > > > to cloth, ornaments etc used by

women, or a business related to> > > > similar things. The native

should have attained all kinds of life> > > > success such as, money,

house, vehicles, and every other possible> > > > luxury with in the

period of Ju itself due his success in> > profession> > > > during

his 20-25 years of age. (Remember that the native is only> > 25> > >

> years of age now)> > > > * Me in 12th indicates insaneness or

madness. Mo – Ju in 5th> > aspected> > > > by Su indicates the same.

6th lord Ma in 4th with Sa also> > indicate the> > > > same. Thus it

is a horoscope with multiple combinations that> > indicate> > > >

madness or a psychic patient. The results will actualize (psychic> >

> > problem will occur) in Ju Dasa Mo antara or Sa Dasa Mars Antara>

> (). No> > > > doubt the horoscope is that of a psychopath. As per

Vimsottari> > dasa> > > > from Moon Aug 2003 – Dec 2004 is Ju-Mo

period; As per Vimsottari> > dasa> > > > from Lagna April 2004 – May

2005 is Sa-Ma. Thus period of madness> > > > should be April 2004 –

Dec 2004 as indicated by both of them. The> > > > native's madness

should had become uncontrolled and clearly> > visible to> > > > the

world in this period.> > > > * 8th lord Sa aspecting Lagna, Sa with

Ma in 4th, Me in 12th> > indicate> > > > a combination for bondage.

The native will suffer prison> > sentence for> > > > long, possibly

though out the Saturn period of 19 years.> > > > * Even the favoring

authorities (as indicated by Su in 11th) can> > not> > > > help in

stopping his fate which is sure to put him in prison for> > long.> >

> > * Ma-Sa in 4th indicates that the activities of the native would>

> be> > > > destructive for the society but beneficial to the

worldly> > success of> > > > the native (till the tide changes). He

will not repent and the> > trend> > > > will be followed throughout

his life.> > > > * The Me desa would be no better than the Sa dasa

going through> > tides,> > > > turbulences and occasional madness.> >

> > * The native will again become famous, well known and successful>

> only> > > > at the end of his life in Ve dasa. He will follow the

same> > profession> > > > and will become well known in the same

after the age of 65 years.> > > > Remark:> > > > =======> > > > This

is the horoscope of a psychopath, with exceptional> > intelligence> >

> > and professional success. He will for sure suffer the long

prison> > > > sentence for 19 years for sure. His would be a unique

life, and> > he> > > > will come back to popularity and professional

success again in> > the> > > > late years of his life. All efforts to

avoid the jail sentence is> > > > futile, remedies will not work,

this being a strong result.> > > >> > > > Note: This being a very

interesting horoscope with many unique> > > > combinations, I request

others to continue the discussion on the> > same.> > > > Let us see

what other details we can bring out from the same.> > > > Love,> > >

> Sreenadh> > > > --- In> >

<%

40>> > <%> >

40>,> > > > Panditji> > > > <navagraha@> wrote:> > > >

>> > > > > Namaste,> > > > >> > > > > The lagna is 26 degrees of

Mithuna. Lagna is afflicted by rahu> > and> > > > shani.> > > > >

Shani, mangal and guru are retrograde. Shukra is exalted and is> > >

> aspected by> > > > > shani, with no controling aspect of guru, this

can give strong> > sex> > > > drive. 4> > > > > malefics are in

kendra. Guru is in tula rashi. Shukra, guru> > and ravi are> > > > >

debilited in navansha.> > > > >> > > > > The dasha running is guru-

rahu. Not many bad influences on> > chadra to> > > > suggest> > > > >

mental imbalance. Chadra is in rahu nakshatra, thats the only> > > >

negative I can> > > > > say about chandra in rashi. Birth is on

poornima so chadra is> > strong.> > > > >> > > > > So, yes there is a

strong possibility of elevated sex drive.> > Mangal and> > > > >

shani drishti does not help to moderate shukra.> > > > >> > > >

> ...> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On 6/7/07, subba_appa <subba.iyer@>

wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Hello Learned astrologers:> > > > > >> >

> > > > The native migrated from India to a country, where the laws>

> are very> > > > > > strict and punishments are severe and in some

cases the legal> > > > processes has> > > > > > resulted in a clear

miscarriage of justice.> > > > > >> > > > > > The native was accused

of molesting several women,> > assaulting a> > > > couple of> > > > >

> women sexually and of a violent rape and all the crimes were> > > >

supposedly> > > > > > committed in 6 months. this means he is a

serial molester.> > > > > >> > > > > > He stood trial and claimed

innocence. He was sentenced to 18> > years> > > > > > imprisonment.

This happened in Sa/Ma as per Vimsottari dasa> > > > (started from> >

> > > > lagna).> > > > > >> > > > > > I am the appointed counselor

for him and during all my> > > > interactions, he> > > > > > comes

across as a very intelligent and a sensible person,> > claiming> > >

> > > innocence. There is definitely some incoherence in his> > > >

communication and> > > > > > interaction, but it is difficult to pin

it down to his> > inherent> > > > nature, as> > > > > > someone who

can be falsely accused and has to spend his time> > in> > > > prison

can> > > > > > show such behavior.The official rehabilitation officer

also> > finds him> > > > > > intelligent, though the psychiatrist in

charge of the case> > has> > > > reported> > > > > > (based on his

tests) that he is a dangerous psychopath and it> > > > would be a> >

> > > > danger to society if he was released.> > > > > >> > > > > >

The native's mother is keen on an appeal to the highest> > court,> >

> > though the> > > > > > lawyers have advised her that the appeal

may not be> > successful in> > > > view of> > > > > > the

psychiatrist opinion.> > > > > >> > > > > > His chart is interesting.

Based on the details available> > with the> > > > > > authorities,

the chart (D-1)shows 4 planets in exaltation, a> > Gaja> > > >

kesari> > > > > > yoga, and except for the 4H being badly afflicted,

it shows> > a good> > > > chart.> > > > > >> > > > > > *Birth

details: May 7, 1982, time: 10:01 am, Nagpur, India. *> > > > > >> >

> > > > *Here are the questions from a practical standpoint:*> > > >

> >> > > > > > 1. Is it possible that he could have committed such

serious> > crimes?> > > > > > 2. He believes that he was completely

framed, and that his> > defence> > > > > > lawyer (appointed by the

State) did a poor job. Was> > miscarriage> > > > of justice> > > > >

> possible?> > > > > > 3. Is an appeal likely to be successful? The

chances that the> > > > appeal> > > > > > may be entertained seems

slim, given the psychiatrist> > opinion.> > > > > > 4. Are there any

remedial measures possible to improve the> > state of> > > > > >

affairs?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > *From an

astrological standpoint:*> > > > > >> > > > > > 1. What aspects in

the chart could indicate such deviant> > sexual> > > > > > behavior?>

> > > > > 2. What aspects in the chart could indicate such a long> >

prison> > > > term?> > > > > > 3. Does he inherently have

psychopathic tendency or is he a> > victim> > > > > > of

circumstances? How does that one judge that?> > > > > > 4. Is there a

way to show that he was sexually abused> > himself when> > > > > > he

was a child? How does one see that?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >

Given the seriousness of the situation, and given that it is> > a

very> > > > > > interesting case, may I request the learned

astrologers give> > a> > > > more detailed> > > > > > comprehensive

response.> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >

>> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >>

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Dear Sreenadh Ji,

Pranapada is changing every 40 seconds and this is the main clue in rectifying the birth time rectification after both Kunda and Tattwa and Antara Tattwa methods are employed.The 1st breath of the child when it comes to this earth is the time of birth and this is nothing but Prana entering to a human body.So the Prana Pada is used to rectify the birth time effectively.But its use is to be reckoned from Navamsha chart .Pranapada Navamsha has to be in trine to Navamsha Lagna or Navamsha Chandra or atleast 7th to either of them in Navamsha.This is the final tuning in the birth time rectification.Iam using all these 3 methods and getting very good results in predicting events.Pranapada in Rashi chart is used to predict the results which falls in different houses.

Just you can try this and reply me.

With Regards,

Ramadas Rao.

 

 

From: sreesogDate: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 05:09:41 +0000 Re: Innocent person or a dangerous psychopath? Please help analyze.

 

 

 

Dear Ramdas ji,I will try to cover both Tatwa method and Pranapada also in my article.But one question :) When Parasara gives the results of Pranapada for all the 12 houses how we are supposed to use it for birth time rectification? Further Parasara never advises us to use it for Birth time rectification. Can you shed more light on this?Love,Sreenadh , HosabettuRamadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh Ji,> Along with Kunda rectification, if we use Tattwa and Antara Tattwa methods and Pranapada methods,the birth times can be rectified further almost accurately.In Tattwa and Antara Tattwa method,we have five Tattwas ie., Agni,Jala,Vayu,Prithvi and Akasha Tattwas daily rising with Agni, Akasha and Prithvi Tattwas are male while Jala and Vayu Tattwas are female.These can be further tuned to Antara Tattwas accordingly and for almost every 3 minutes we get the birth in 3 types of Lagnas ie.,Chara,Sthira and Dwiswabhava with Janma Nakshatra lords.This time can be further tuned by Kunda and Prana Pada methods to get almost accurate birth times.> With Regards,> Ramadas Rao.> > > : sreesog: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:25:56 +0000 Re: Innocent person or a dangerous psychopath? Please help analyze.> > > > > Dear Pandit ji,The real problem is that I usually get enough free time only on Saturday and Sunday. This Saturday I will sit on that will prepare an article on Birth time rectification methods and will upload it in the group. Note: As of Kunda rectification method is concerned, to be brief,Kunda Longitude = Lagna longitude X 81 This should fall in the star or trine star of the native – here by star we mean the star in which Moon is placed, i.e Janma Nakshatra. If this is not happening, proper adjustment is done in time by adding or decreasing 30 sec each so that the Kunda Longitude falls on the Janma Nakshatra trines. This method helps only for a maximum correction of 3 minutes.I will elaborate on the same with examples in on Saturday along with the discussion of other methods.Love,Sreenadh , Panditji <navagraha@> wrote:>> Namaste Sreenadh,> > I was reading you article on birth time rectification. Good info. Are you> planning to elaborate on that article.> Kunda method is one of the methods described there. Aslo the method using> Yamas and tatwas needs elaboration. The particular chart is discussed but> what happens for other scenarios is not discussed. I am sure that was not> the intent of the article, but it wouls be great if it is formalized into a> writeup.> > Thanks> ...> > > On 6/24/07, Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:> >> > Dear Pandit ji,> > Yes, it is time that we should go back to normal astrological> > discussions. Today I was engaged in completing one article [yes, in> > sequence with the current unending story of replying to Kaul :)],> > and will post it today (a pdf doc).> > From tomorrow onwards we will start with this chart itself. Of> > course in the next post I will clarify the Kunda rectification> > method as well.> > Love,> > Sreenadh> >> > <%40>,> > Panditji> > <navagraha@> wrote:> > >> > > Sreenadhji,> > >> > > Any comments on this chart. Also could you please elaborate the> > kunda method> > > of rectification.> > >> > > Thanks> > >> > > ...> > >> > >> > > On 6/9/07, Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:> > > >> > > > BT: 7th May 1982, 10.01 AM, Nagpur, India.> > > > Rectified BT: BT: 7th May 1982, 10.02.30 AM, Nagpur, India.> > > > Log: 75 E 25 Lat: 29 N 39> > > > Ayanamsa: True Ayanamsa of Chandrahari (46 min more than Lahari)> > > > Year length used for Dasa calculation: 360 days savanna year> > > >> > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa> > > >> > > > Lagna 25 Ge 30' 30.73" Puna 2 Ge Ta> > > > Sun - AmK 21 Ar 55' 55.04" Bhar 3 Ar Li> > > > Moon - MK 12 Li 24' 46.35" Swat 2 Li Cp> > > > Mars ® - DK 6 Vi 08' 28.66" UPha 3 Vi Aq> > > > Mercury - BK 13 Ta 00' 45.54" Rohi 1 Ta Ar> > > > Jupiter ® - PiK 9 Li 40' 29.98" Swat 1 Li Sg> > > > Venus - PK 8 Pi 36' 59.44" UBha 2 Pi Vi> > > > Saturn ® - AK 22 Vi 31' 11.63" Hast 4 Vi Cn> > > > Rahu - GK 22 Ge 07' 45.94" Puna 1 Ge Ar> > > > Ketu 22 Sg 07' 45.94" PSha 3 Sg Li> > > > Gulika 19 Ta 29' 37.56" Rohi 3 Ta Ge> > > > Kunda 26 Ge 11' 29.36" Puna 2 Ge Ta> > > >> > > > Rectification: For 10.02.30 the Kunda Lagna falls on Punarvasu> > (Lagma> > > > sputa star) itself, and therefore, it is assumed that the given> > birth> > > > time is correct.> > > > Primary Analysis> > > > ================> > > > * Ve and Su exalted in natal chart, but both Ve and Su> > debilitated in> > > > Navamsa.> > > > * Ju retrograde and is in 5th with Mo providing a powerful> > unmade yoga> > > > (indicating a psychological patient), in Navamsa Ju is in own> > house.> > > > (As per Lahari Ayanamsa Ju is also debilitated in Navamsa)> > > > * Lagna lord in 12th and the navamsa of lagna lord is 12th from> > the> > > > sign in which lagna lord is placed (i.e. Lagnadhipa navamsa> > falls on> > > > 11th from lagna)> > > > * 4th house afflicted with 2 powerful malifics Ma and Sa,> > indicating a> > > > fallen (immoral) individual.> > > > * As indicated by Ju and Mo in 5th and Ve in 10th and Su in> > 11th, he> > > > would be a successful individual in his early years of life,> > like an> > > > over voltage bulb (Ju in 5th – house of intelligence)> > > > * As indicated by Ma-Sa in 4th, born in an culturally fallen,> > immoral> > > > poor family, the native attained life success because of his> > unique> > > > abilities and successful profession.> > > > * Ve in 10th from Lagna indicates that the native will have> > income> > > > from women and job related to them. Sa aspecting Ve also> > indicate the> > > > same. Navamsa of 10th lord Ju falls in 7th house (ornaments) from> > > > Lagna in its own house. Thus the native will have a profession> > related> > > > to cloth, ornaments etc used by women, or a business related to> > > > similar things. The native should have attained all kinds of life> > > > success such as, money, house, vehicles, and every other possible> > > > luxury with in the period of Ju itself due his success in> > profession> > > > during his 20-25 years of age. (Remember that the native is only> > 25> > > > years of age now)> > > > * Me in 12th indicates insaneness or madness. Mo – Ju in 5th> > aspected> > > > by Su indicates the same. 6th lord Ma in 4th with Sa also> > indicate the> > > > same. Thus it is a horoscope with multiple combinations that> > indicate> > > > madness or a psychic patient. The results will actualize (psychic> > > > problem will occur) in Ju Dasa Mo antara or Sa Dasa Mars Antara> > (). No> > > > doubt the horoscope is that of a psychopath. As per Vimsottari> > dasa> > > > from Moon Aug 2003 – Dec 2004 is Ju-Mo period; As per Vimsottari> > dasa> > > > from Lagna April 2004 – May 2005 is Sa-Ma. Thus period of madness> > > > should be April 2004 – Dec 2004 as indicated by both of them. The> > > > native's madness should had become uncontrolled and clearly> > visible to> > > > the world in this period.> > > > * 8th lord Sa aspecting Lagna, Sa with Ma in 4th, Me in 12th> > indicate> > > > a combination for bondage. The native will suffer prison> > sentence for> > > > long, possibly though out the Saturn period of 19 years.> > > > * Even the favoring authorities (as indicated by Su in 11th) can> > not> > > > help in stopping his fate which is sure to put him in prison for> > long.> > > > * Ma-Sa in 4th indicates that the activities of the native would> > be> > > > destructive for the society but beneficial to the worldly> > success of> > > > the native (till the tide changes). He will not repent and the> > trend> > > > will be followed throughout his life.> > > > * The Me desa would be no better than the Sa dasa going through> > tides,> > > > turbulences and occasional madness.> > > > * The native will again become famous, well known and successful> > only> > > > at the end of his life in Ve dasa. He will follow the same> > profession> > > > and will become well known in the same after the age of 65 years.> > > > Remark:> > > > =======> > > > This is the horoscope of a psychopath, with exceptional> > intelligence> > > > and professional success. He will for sure suffer the long prison> > > > sentence for 19 years for sure. His would be a unique life, and> > he> > > > will come back to popularity and professional success again in> > the> > > > late years of his life. All efforts to avoid the jail sentence is> > > > futile, remedies will not work, this being a strong result.> > > >> > > > Note: This being a very interesting horoscope with many unique> > > > combinations, I request others to continue the discussion on the> > same.> > > > Let us see what other details we can bring out from the same.> > > > Love,> > > > Sreenadh> > > > --- In> > <%40>> > <%> > 40>,> > > > Panditji> > > > <navagraha@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Namaste,> > > > >> > > > > The lagna is 26 degrees of Mithuna. Lagna is afflicted by rahu> > and> > > > shani.> > > > > Shani, mangal and guru are retrograde. Shukra is exalted and is> > > > aspected by> > > > > shani, with no controling aspect of guru, this can give strong> > sex> > > > drive. 4> > > > > malefics are in kendra. Guru is in tula rashi. Shukra, guru> > and ravi are> > > > > debilited in navansha.> > > > >> > > > > The dasha running is guru-rahu. Not many bad influences on> > chadra to> > > > suggest> > > > > mental imbalance. Chadra is in rahu nakshatra, thats the only> > > > negative I can> > > > > say about chandra in rashi. Birth is on poornima so chadra is> > strong.> > > > >> > > > > So, yes there is a strong possibility of elevated sex drive.> > Mangal and> > > > > shani drishti does not help to moderate shukra.> > > > >> > > > > ...> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On 6/7/07, subba_appa <subba.iyer@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Hello Learned astrologers:> > > > > >> > > > > > The native migrated from India to a country, where the laws> > are very> > > > > > strict and punishments are severe and in some cases the legal> > > > processes has> > > > > > resulted in a clear miscarriage of justice.> > > > > >> > > > > > The native was accused of molesting several women,> > assaulting a> > > > couple of> > > > > > women sexually and of a violent rape and all the crimes were> > > > supposedly> > > > > > committed in 6 months. this means he is a serial molester.> > > > > >> > > > > > He stood trial and claimed innocence. He was sentenced to 18> > years> > > > > > imprisonment. This happened in Sa/Ma as per Vimsottari dasa> > > > (started from> > > > > > lagna).> > > > > >> > > > > > I am the appointed counselor for him and during all my> > > > interactions, he> > > > > > comes across as a very intelligent and a sensible person,> > claiming> > > > > > innocence. There is definitely some incoherence in his> > > > communication and> > > > > > interaction, but it is difficult to pin it down to his> > inherent> > > > nature, as> > > > > > someone who can be falsely accused and has to spend his time> > in> > > > prison can> > > > > > show such behavior.The official rehabilitation officer also> > finds him> > > > > > intelligent, though the psychiatrist in charge of the case> > has> > > > reported> > > > > > (based on his tests) that he is a dangerous psychopath and it> > > > would be a> > > > > > danger to society if he was released.> > > > > >> > > > > > The native's mother is keen on an appeal to the highest> > court,> > > > though the> > > > > > lawyers have advised her that the appeal may not be> > successful in> > > > view of> > > > > > the psychiatrist opinion.> > > > > >> > > > > > His chart is interesting. Based on the details available> > with the> > > > > > authorities, the chart (D-1)shows 4 planets in exaltation, a> > Gaja> > > > kesari> > > > > > yoga, and except for the 4H being badly afflicted, it shows> > a good> > > > chart.> > > > > >> > > > > > *Birth details: May 7, 1982, time: 10:01 am, Nagpur, India. *> > > > > >> > > > > > *Here are the questions from a practical standpoint:*> > > > > >> > > > > > 1. Is it possible that he could have committed such serious> > crimes?> > > > > > 2. He believes that he was completely framed, and that his> > defence> > > > > > lawyer (appointed by the State) did a poor job. Was> > miscarriage> > > > of justice> > > > > > possible?> > > > > > 3. Is an appeal likely to be successful? The chances that the> > > > appeal> > > > > > may be entertained seems slim, given the psychiatrist> > opinion.> > > > > > 4. Are there any remedial measures possible to improve the> > state of> > > > > > affairs?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > *From an astrological standpoint:*> > > > > >> > > > > > 1. What aspects in the chart could indicate such deviant> > sexual> > > > > > behavior?> > > > > > 2. What aspects in the chart could indicate such a long> > prison> > > > term?> > > > > > 3. Does he inherently have psychopathic tendency or is he a> > victim> > > > > > of circumstances? How does that one judge that?> > > > > > 4. Is there a way to show that he was sexually abused> > himself when> > > > > > he was a child? How does one see that?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Given the seriousness of the situation, and given that it is> > a very> > > > > > interesting case, may I request the learned astrologers give> > a> > > > more detailed> > > > > > comprehensive response.> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > > > ________> With Windows Live Hotmail, you can personalize your inbox with your favorite color.> www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/personalize.html?locale=en-us & ocid=TXT_TAGLM_HMWL_reten_addcolor_0607> Change is good. See what’s different about Windows Live Hotmail. Check it out!

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Dear Ramdas ji,

Thanks for clarification.

==>

> The 1st breath of the child when it comes to this earth is the time

of birth

<==

No sage adivices the same; on the contrary we have many other

approved definitions for BT in horas like 'Sounaka Hora', 'Garga

Hora' etc. No neither BPHS suggest the same. What is BT as per

definitions provided by sages? - This is one of the questions we

should clarify in the first place. Yap, I will quote the reference

and clarify the same, in the article.

==>

> But its use is to be reckoned from Navamsha chart .Pranapada

> Navamsha has to be in trine to Navamsha Lagna or Navamsha Chandra

> or atleast 7th to either of them in Navamsha.This is the final

> tuning in the birth time rectification.

<==

Please quote the reference. Further, as I know it, reading D-charts

independently is not supported by the sages.

 

==>

> Just you can try this and reply me.

<==

Just trying any of the various BT rectification methods can't prove

anything. The normal BT rectification methods will help us to correct

(?) only 2-3 minutes. Since after BT rectification what we do is

trying to match the events as per Desa with the rectified(?) chart.

In this situation, at least the support of the words and directions

of sages (the quotes from authentic texts that support those

methods), is necessary to have a confidence and belief in the

rectified time at least for the astrologer. That is why, the search

for sage supported, Rishi hora told, methods - and understanding of

the logical foundation (of those methods) for our guidance becomes

important.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, HosabettuRamadas Rao

<ramadasrao wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadh Ji,

> Pranapada is changing every 40 seconds and this is the main clue in

rectifying the birth time rectification after both Kunda and Tattwa

and Antara Tattwa methods are employed.The 1st breath of the child

when it comes to this earth is the time of birth and this is nothing

but Prana entering to a human body.So the Prana Pada is used to

rectify the birth time effectively.But its use is to be reckoned from

Navamsha chart .Pranapada Navamsha has to be in trine to Navamsha

Lagna or Navamsha Chandra or atleast 7th to either of them in

Navamsha.This is the final tuning in the birth time rectification.Iam

using all these 3 methods and getting very good results in predicting

events. Pranapada in Rashi chart is used to predict the results which

falls in different houses.

> Just you can try this and reply me.

> With Regards,

> Ramadas Rao.

>

>

> : sreesog: Fri, 29 Jun 2007

05:09:41 +0000 Re: Innocent person

or a dangerous psychopath? Please help analyze.

>

>

>

>

> Dear Ramdas ji,I will try to cover both Tatwa method and Pranapada

also in my article.But one question :) When Parasara gives the

results of Pranapada for all the 12 houses how we are supposed to use

it for birth time rectification? Further Parasara never advises us to

use it for Birth time rectification. Can you shed more light on this?

Love,Sreenadh ,

HosabettuRamadas Rao <ramadasrao@> wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh Ji,> Along

with Kunda rectification, if we use Tattwa and Antara Tattwa methods

and Pranapada methods,the birth times can be rectified further almost

accurately.In Tattwa and Antara Tattwa method,we have five Tattwas

ie., Agni,Jala,Vayu,Prithvi and Akasha Tattwas daily rising with

Agni, Akasha and Prithvi Tattwas are male while Jala and Vayu Tattwas

are female.These can be further tuned to Antara Tattwas accordingly

and for almost every 3 minutes we get the birth in 3 types of Lagnas

ie.,Chara,Sthira and Dwiswabhava with Janma Nakshatra lords.This time

can be further tuned by Kunda and Prana Pada methods to get almost

accurate birth times.> With Regards,> Ramadas Rao.> > > To:

@: sreesog@: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:25:56

+0000 Re: Innocent person or a

dangerous psychopath? Please help analyze.> > > > > Dear Pandit

ji,The real problem is that I usually get enough free time only on

Saturday and Sunday. This Saturday I will sit on that will prepare an

article on Birth time rectification methods and will upload it in the

group. Note: As of Kunda rectification method is concerned, to be

brief,Kunda Longitude = Lagna longitude X 81 This should fall in the

star or trine star of the native – here by star we mean the star in

which Moon is placed, i.e Janma Nakshatra. If this is not happening,

proper adjustment is done in time by adding or decreasing 30 sec each

so that the Kunda Longitude falls on the Janma Nakshatra trines. This

method helps only for a maximum correction of 3 minutes.I will

elaborate on the same with examples in on Saturday along with the

discussion of other methods.Love,Sreenadh--- In

, Panditji <navagraha@>

wrote:>> Namaste Sreenadh,> > I was reading you article on birth time

rectification. Good info. Are you> planning to elaborate on that

article.> Kunda method is one of the methods described there. Aslo

the method using> Yamas and tatwas needs elaboration. The particular

chart is discussed but> what happens for other scenarios is not

discussed. I am sure that was not> the intent of the article, but it

wouls be great if it is formalized into a> writeup.> > Thanks> ...> >

> On 6/24/07, Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:> >> > Dear Pandit ji,> >

Yes, it is time that we should go back to normal astrological> >

discussions. Today I was engaged in completing one article [yes, in>

> sequence with the current unending story of replying to Kaul :)],>

> and will post it today (a pdf doc).> > From tomorrow onwards we

will start with this chart itself. Of> > course in the next post I

will clarify the Kunda rectification> > method as well.> > Love,> >

Sreenadh> >> > --- In

<%

40>,> > Panditji> > <navagraha@> wrote:> > >> > >

Sreenadhji,> > >> > > Any comments on this chart. Also could you

please elaborate the> > kunda method> > > of rectification.> > >> > >

Thanks> > >> > > ...> > >> > >> > > On 6/9/07, Sreenadh <sreesog@>

wrote:> > > >> > > > BT: 7th May 1982, 10.01 AM, Nagpur, India.> > >

> Rectified BT: BT: 7th May 1982, 10.02.30 AM, Nagpur, India.> > > >

Log: 75 E 25 Lat: 29 N 39> > > > Ayanamsa: True Ayanamsa of

Chandrahari (46 min more than Lahari)> > > > Year length used for

Dasa calculation: 360 days savanna year> > > >> > > > Body Longitude

Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa> > > >> > > > Lagna 25 Ge 30' 30.73 " Puna

2 Ge Ta> > > > Sun - AmK 21 Ar 55' 55.04 " Bhar 3 Ar Li> > > > Moon -

MK 12 Li 24' 46.35 " Swat 2 Li Cp> > > > Mars ® - DK 6 Vi 08' 28.66 "

UPha 3 Vi Aq> > > > Mercury - BK 13 Ta 00' 45.54 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar> > > >

Jupiter ® - PiK 9 Li 40' 29.98 " Swat 1 Li Sg> > > > Venus - PK 8 Pi

36' 59.44 " UBha 2 Pi Vi> > > > Saturn ® - AK 22 Vi 31' 11.63 " Hast

4 Vi Cn> > > > Rahu - GK 22 Ge 07' 45.94 " Puna 1 Ge Ar> > > > Ketu 22

Sg 07' 45.94 " PSha 3 Sg Li> > > > Gulika 19 Ta 29' 37.56 " Rohi 3 Ta

Ge> > > > Kunda 26 Ge 11' 29.36 " Puna 2 Ge Ta> > > >> > > >

Rectification: For 10.02.30 the Kunda Lagna falls on Punarvasu> >

(Lagma> > > > sputa star) itself, and therefore, it is assumed that

the given> > birth> > > > time is correct.> > > > Primary Analysis> >

> > ================> > > > * Ve and Su exalted in natal chart, but

both Ve and Su> > debilitated in> > > > Navamsa.> > > > * Ju

retrograde and is in 5th with Mo providing a powerful> > unmade yoga>

> > > (indicating a psychological patient), in Navamsa Ju is in own>

> house.> > > > (As per Lahari Ayanamsa Ju is also debilitated in

Navamsa)> > > > * Lagna lord in 12th and the navamsa of lagna lord is

12th from> > the> > > > sign in which lagna lord is placed (i.e.

Lagnadhipa navamsa> > falls on> > > > 11th from lagna)> > > > * 4th

house afflicted with 2 powerful malifics Ma and Sa,> > indicating a>

> > > fallen (immoral) individual.> > > > * As indicated by Ju and Mo

in 5th and Ve in 10th and Su in> > 11th, he> > > > would be a

successful individual in his early years of life,> > like an> > > >

over voltage bulb (Ju in 5th – house of intelligence)> > > > * As

indicated by Ma-Sa in 4th, born in an culturally fallen,> > immoral>

> > > poor family, the native attained life success because of his> >

unique> > > > abilities and successful profession.> > > > * Ve in

10th from Lagna indicates that the native will have> > income> > > >

from women and job related to them. Sa aspecting Ve also> > indicate

the> > > > same. Navamsa of 10th lord Ju falls in 7th house

(ornaments) from> > > > Lagna in its own house. Thus the native will

have a profession> > related> > > > to cloth, ornaments etc used by

women, or a business related to> > > > similar things. The native

should have attained all kinds of life> > > > success such as, money,

house, vehicles, and every other possible> > > > luxury with in the

period of Ju itself due his success in> > profession> > > > during

his 20-25 years of age. (Remember that the native is only> > 25> > >

> years of age now)> > > > * Me in 12th indicates insaneness or

madness. Mo – Ju in 5th> > aspected> > > > by Su indicates the same.

6th lord Ma in 4th with Sa also> > indicate the> > > > same. Thus it

is a horoscope with multiple combinations that> > indicate> > > >

madness or a psychic patient. The results will actualize (psychic> >

> > problem will occur) in Ju Dasa Mo antara or Sa Dasa Mars Antara>

> (). No> > > > doubt the horoscope is that of a psychopath. As per

Vimsottari> > dasa> > > > from Moon Aug 2003 – Dec 2004 is Ju-Mo

period; As per Vimsottari> > dasa> > > > from Lagna April 2004 – May

2005 is Sa-Ma. Thus period of madness> > > > should be April 2004 –

Dec 2004 as indicated by both of them. The> > > > native's madness

should had become uncontrolled and clearly> > visible to> > > > the

world in this period.> > > > * 8th lord Sa aspecting Lagna, Sa with

Ma in 4th, Me in 12th> > indicate> > > > a combination for bondage.

The native will suffer prison> > sentence for> > > > long, possibly

though out the Saturn period of 19 years.> > > > * Even the favoring

authorities (as indicated by Su in 11th) can> > not> > > > help in

stopping his fate which is sure to put him in prison for> > long.> >

> > * Ma-Sa in 4th indicates that the activities of the native would>

> be> > > > destructive for the society but beneficial to the

worldly> > success of> > > > the native (till the tide changes). He

will not repent and the> > trend> > > > will be followed throughout

his life.> > > > * The Me desa would be no better than the Sa dasa

going through> > tides,> > > > turbulences and occasional madness.> >

> > * The native will again become famous, well known and successful>

> only> > > > at the end of his life in Ve dasa. He will follow the

same> > profession> > > > and will become well known in the same

after the age of 65 years.> > > > Remark:> > > > =======> > > > This

is the horoscope of a psychopath, with exceptional> > intelligence> >

> > and professional success. He will for sure suffer the long

prison> > > > sentence for 19 years for sure. His would be a unique

life, and> > he> > > > will come back to popularity and professional

success again in> > the> > > > late years of his life. All efforts to

avoid the jail sentence is> > > > futile, remedies will not work,

this being a strong result.> > > >> > > > Note: This being a very

interesting horoscope with many unique> > > > combinations, I request

others to continue the discussion on the> > same.> > > > Let us see

what other details we can bring out from the same.> > > > Love,> > >

> Sreenadh> > > > --- In> >

<%

40>> > <%> >

40>,> > > > Panditji> > > > <navagraha@> wrote:> > > >

>> > > > > Namaste,> > > > >> > > > > The lagna is 26 degrees of

Mithuna. Lagna is afflicted by rahu> > and> > > > shani.> > > > >

Shani, mangal and guru are retrograde. Shukra is exalted and is> > >

> aspected by> > > > > shani, with no controling aspect of guru, this

can give strong> > sex> > > > drive. 4> > > > > malefics are in

kendra. Guru is in tula rashi. Shukra, guru> > and ravi are> > > > >

debilited in navansha.> > > > >> > > > > The dasha running is guru-

rahu. Not many bad influences on> > chadra to> > > > suggest> > > > >

mental imbalance. Chadra is in rahu nakshatra, thats the only> > > >

negative I can> > > > > say about chandra in rashi. Birth is on

poornima so chadra is> > strong.> > > > >> > > > > So, yes there is a

strong possibility of elevated sex drive.> > Mangal and> > > > >

shani drishti does not help to moderate shukra.> > > > >> > > >

> ...> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On 6/7/07, subba_appa <subba.iyer@>

wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Hello Learned astrologers:> > > > > >> >

> > > > The native migrated from India to a country, where the laws>

> are very> > > > > > strict and punishments are severe and in some

cases the legal> > > > processes has> > > > > > resulted in a clear

miscarriage of justice.> > > > > >> > > > > > The native was accused

of molesting several women,> > assaulting a> > > > couple of> > > > >

> women sexually and of a violent rape and all the crimes were> > > >

supposedly> > > > > > committed in 6 months. this means he is a

serial molester.> > > > > >> > > > > > He stood trial and claimed

innocence. He was sentenced to 18> > years> > > > > > imprisonment.

This happened in Sa/Ma as per Vimsottari dasa> > > > (started from> >

> > > > lagna).> > > > > >> > > > > > I am the appointed counselor

for him and during all my> > > > interactions, he> > > > > > comes

across as a very intelligent and a sensible person,> > claiming> > >

> > > innocence. There is definitely some incoherence in his> > > >

communication and> > > > > > interaction, but it is difficult to pin

it down to his> > inherent> > > > nature, as> > > > > > someone who

can be falsely accused and has to spend his time> > in> > > > prison

can> > > > > > show such behavior.The official rehabilitation officer

also> > finds him> > > > > > intelligent, though the psychiatrist in

charge of the case> > has> > > > reported> > > > > > (based on his

tests) that he is a dangerous psychopath and it> > > > would be a> >

> > > > danger to society if he was released.> > > > > >> > > > > >

The native's mother is keen on an appeal to the highest> > court,> >

> > though the> > > > > > lawyers have advised her that the appeal

may not be> > successful in> > > > view of> > > > > > the

psychiatrist opinion.> > > > > >> > > > > > His chart is interesting.

Based on the details available> > with the> > > > > > authorities,

the chart (D-1)shows 4 planets in exaltation, a> > Gaja> > > >

kesari> > > > > > yoga, and except for the 4H being badly afflicted,

it shows> > a good> > > > chart.> > > > > >> > > > > > *Birth

details: May 7, 1982, time: 10:01 am, Nagpur, India. *> > > > > >> >

> > > > *Here are the questions from a practical standpoint:*> > > >

> >> > > > > > 1. Is it possible that he could have committed such

serious> > crimes?> > > > > > 2. He believes that he was completely

framed, and that his> > defence> > > > > > lawyer (appointed by the

State) did a poor job. Was> > miscarriage> > > > of justice> > > > >

> possible?> > > > > > 3. Is an appeal likely to be successful? The

chances that the> > > > appeal> > > > > > may be entertained seems

slim, given the psychiatrist> > opinion.> > > > > > 4. Are there any

remedial measures possible to improve the> > state of> > > > > >

affairs?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > *From an

astrological standpoint:*> > > > > >> > > > > > 1. What aspects in

the chart could indicate such deviant> > sexual> > > > > > behavior?>

> > > > > 2. What aspects in the chart could indicate such a long> >

prison> > > > term?> > > > > > 3. Does he inherently have

psychopathic tendency or is he a> > victim> > > > > > of

circumstances? How does that one judge that?> > > > > > 4. Is there a

way to show that he was sexually abused> > himself when> > > > > > he

was a child? How does one see that?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >

Given the seriousness of the situation, and given that it is> > a

very> > > > > > interesting case, may I request the learned

astrologers give> > a> > > > more detailed> > > > > > comprehensive

response.> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >

>> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > > >

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Dear Sreenadh Ji,

Shri Sanjay Rath of SJC explained about Prana Pada method of birth time rectification in the method I wrote to you.I was keeping his mail till last few months but as I had some problems in my computer which suddenly crashed, I could not save many of the mails,so I lost it.But one thing is clear that when the child comes to this earth, it immidiately cries as soon as it inhales the air ( Prana ).So we consider this time as the birth time which can be calculated as Prana Pada.

With Regards,

Ramadas Rao.

 

 

From: sreesogDate: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 09:31:31 +0000 Re: Innocent person or a dangerous psychopath? Please help analyze.

 

 

 

Dear Ramdas ji,Thanks for clarification.==>> The 1st breath of the child when it comes to this earth is the time of birth<==No sage adivices the same; on the contrary we have many other approved definitions for BT in horas like 'Sounaka Hora', 'Garga Hora' etc. No neither BPHS suggest the same. What is BT as per definitions provided by sages? - This is one of the questions we should clarify in the first place. Yap, I will quote the reference and clarify the same, in the article. ==>> But its use is to be reckoned from Navamsha chart .Pranapada > Navamsha has to be in trine to Navamsha Lagna or Navamsha Chandra > or atleast 7th to either of them in Navamsha.This is the final > tuning in the birth time rectification.<==Please quote the reference. Further, as I know it, reading D-charts independently is not supported by the sages.==>> Just you can try this and reply me.<==Just trying any of the various BT rectification methods can't prove anything. The normal BT rectification methods will help us to correct(?) only 2-3 minutes. Since after BT rectification what we do is trying to match the events as per Desa with the rectified(?) chart. In this situation, at least the support of the words and directions of sages (the quotes from authentic texts that support those methods), is necessary to have a confidence and belief in the rectified time at least for the astrologer. That is why, the search for sage supported, Rishi hora told, methods - and understanding of the logical foundation (of those methods) for our guidance becomes important. Love,Sreenadh , HosabettuRamadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh Ji,> Pranapada is changing every 40 seconds and this is the main clue in rectifying the birth time rectification after both Kunda and Tattwa and Antara Tattwa methods are employed.The 1st breath of the child when it comes to this earth is the time of birth and this is nothing but Prana entering to a human body.So the Prana Pada is used to rectify the birth time effectively.But its use is to be reckoned from Navamsha chart .Pranapada Navamsha has to be in trine to Navamsha Lagna or Navamsha Chandra or atleast 7th to either of them in Navamsha.This is the final tuning in the birth time rectification.Iam using all these 3 methods and getting very good results in predicting events. Pranapada in Rashi chart is used to predict the results which falls in different houses.> Just you can try this and reply me.> With Regards,> Ramadas Rao.> > > : sreesog: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 05:09:41 +0000 Re: Innocent person or a dangerous psychopath? Please help analyze.> > > > > Dear Ramdas ji,I will try to cover both Tatwa method and Pranapada also in my article.But one question :) When Parasara gives the results of Pranapada for all the 12 houses how we are supposed to use it for birth time rectification? Further Parasara never advises us to use it for Birth time rectification. Can you shed more light on this?Love,Sreenadh , HosabettuRamadas Rao <ramadasrao@> wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh Ji,> Along with Kunda rectification, if we use Tattwa and Antara Tattwa methods and Pranapada methods,the birth times can be rectified further almost accurately.In Tattwa and Antara Tattwa method,we have five Tattwas ie., Agni,Jala,Vayu,Prithvi and Akasha Tattwas daily rising with Agni, Akasha and Prithvi Tattwas are male while Jala and Vayu Tattwas are female.These can be further tuned to Antara Tattwas accordingly and for almost every 3 minutes we get the birth in 3 types of Lagnas ie.,Chara,Sthira and Dwiswabhava with Janma Nakshatra lords.This time can be further tuned by Kunda and Prana Pada methods to get almost accurate birth times.> With Regards,> Ramadas Rao.> > > @: sreesog@: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:25:56 +0000 Re: Innocent person or a dangerous psychopath? Please help analyze.> > > > > Dear Pandit ji,The real problem is that I usually get enough free time only on Saturday and Sunday. This Saturday I will sit on that will prepare an article on Birth time rectification methods and will upload it in the group. Note: As of Kunda rectification method is concerned, to be brief,Kunda Longitude = Lagna longitude X 81 This should fall in the star or trine star of the native – here by star we mean the star in which Moon is placed, i.e Janma Nakshatra. If this is not happening, proper adjustment is done in time by adding or decreasing 30 sec each so that the Kunda Longitude falls on the Janma Nakshatra trines. This method helps only for a maximum correction of 3 minutes.I will elaborate on the same with examples in on Saturday along with the discussion of other methods.Love,Sreenadh , Panditji <navagraha@> wrote:>> Namaste Sreenadh,> > I was reading you article on birth time rectification. Good info. Are you> planning to elaborate on that article.> Kunda method is one of the methods described there. Aslo the method using> Yamas and tatwas needs elaboration. The particular chart is discussed but> what happens for other scenarios is not discussed. I am sure that was not> the intent of the article, but it wouls be great if it is formalized into a> writeup.> > Thanks> ...> > > On 6/24/07, Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:> >> > Dear Pandit ji,> > Yes, it is time that we should go back to normal astrological> > discussions. Today I was engaged in completing one article [yes, in> > sequence with the current unending story of replying to Kaul :)],> > and will post it today (a pdf doc).> > From tomorrow onwards we will start with this chart itself. Of> > course in the next post I will clarify the Kunda rectification> > method as well.> > Love,> > Sreenadh> >> > <%40>,> > Panditji> > <navagraha@> wrote:> > >> > > Sreenadhji,> > >> > > Any comments on this chart. Also could you please elaborate the> > kunda method> > > of rectification.> > >> > > Thanks> > >> > > ...> > >> > >> > > On 6/9/07, Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:> > > >> > > > BT: 7th May 1982, 10.01 AM, Nagpur, India.> > > > Rectified BT: BT: 7th May 1982, 10.02.30 AM, Nagpur, India.> > > > Log: 75 E 25 Lat: 29 N 39> > > > Ayanamsa: True Ayanamsa of Chandrahari (46 min more than Lahari)> > > > Year length used for Dasa calculation: 360 days savanna year> > > >> > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa> > > >> > > > Lagna 25 Ge 30' 30.73" Puna 2 Ge Ta> > > > Sun - AmK 21 Ar 55' 55.04" Bhar 3 Ar Li> > > > Moon - MK 12 Li 24' 46.35" Swat 2 Li Cp> > > > Mars ® - DK 6 Vi 08' 28.66" UPha 3 Vi Aq> > > > Mercury - BK 13 Ta 00' 45.54" Rohi 1 Ta Ar> > > > Jupiter ® - PiK 9 Li 40' 29.98" Swat 1 Li Sg> > > > Venus - PK 8 Pi 36' 59.44" UBha 2 Pi Vi> > > > Saturn ® - AK 22 Vi 31' 11.63" Hast 4 Vi Cn> > > > Rahu - GK 22 Ge 07' 45.94" Puna 1 Ge Ar> > > > Ketu 22 Sg 07' 45.94" PSha 3 Sg Li> > > > Gulika 19 Ta 29' 37.56" Rohi 3 Ta Ge> > > > Kunda 26 Ge 11' 29.36" Puna 2 Ge Ta> > > >> > > > Rectification: For 10.02.30 the Kunda Lagna falls on Punarvasu> > (Lagma> > > > sputa star) itself, and therefore, it is assumed that the given> > birth> > > > time is correct.> > > > Primary Analysis> > > > ================> > > > * Ve and Su exalted in natal chart, but both Ve and Su> > debilitated in> > > > Navamsa.> > > > * Ju retrograde and is in 5th with Mo providing a powerful> > unmade yoga> > > > (indicating a psychological patient), in Navamsa Ju is in own> > house.> > > > (As per Lahari Ayanamsa Ju is also debilitated in Navamsa)> > > > * Lagna lord in 12th and the navamsa of lagna lord is 12th from> > the> > > > sign in which lagna lord is placed (i.e. Lagnadhipa navamsa> > falls on> > > > 11th from lagna)> > > > * 4th house afflicted with 2 powerful malifics Ma and Sa,> > indicating a> > > > fallen (immoral) individual.> > > > * As indicated by Ju and Mo in 5th and Ve in 10th and Su in> > 11th, he> > > > would be a successful individual in his early years of life,> > like an> > > > over voltage bulb (Ju in 5th – house of intelligence)> > > > * As indicated by Ma-Sa in 4th, born in an culturally fallen,> > immoral> > > > poor family, the native attained life success because of his> > unique> > > > abilities and successful profession.> > > > * Ve in 10th from Lagna indicates that the native will have> > income> > > > from women and job related to them. Sa aspecting Ve also> > indicate the> > > > same. Navamsa of 10th lord Ju falls in 7th house (ornaments) from> > > > Lagna in its own house. Thus the native will have a profession> > related> > > > to cloth, ornaments etc used by women, or a business related to> > > > similar things. The native should have attained all kinds of life> > > > success such as, money, house, vehicles, and every other possible> > > > luxury with in the period of Ju itself due his success in> > profession> > > > during his 20-25 years of age. (Remember that the native is only> > 25> > > > years of age now)> > > > * Me in 12th indicates insaneness or madness. Mo – Ju in 5th> > aspected> > > > by Su indicates the same. 6th lord Ma in 4th with Sa also> > indicate the> > > > same. Thus it is a horoscope with multiple combinations that> > indicate> > > > madness or a psychic patient. The results will actualize (psychic> > > > problem will occur) in Ju Dasa Mo antara or Sa Dasa Mars Antara> > (). No> > > > doubt the horoscope is that of a psychopath. As per Vimsottari> > dasa> > > > from Moon Aug 2003 – Dec 2004 is Ju-Mo period; As per Vimsottari> > dasa> > > > from Lagna April 2004 – May 2005 is Sa-Ma. Thus period of madness> > > > should be April 2004 – Dec 2004 as indicated by both of them. The> > > > native's madness should had become uncontrolled and clearly> > visible to> > > > the world in this period.> > > > * 8th lord Sa aspecting Lagna, Sa with Ma in 4th, Me in 12th> > indicate> > > > a combination for bondage. The native will suffer prison> > sentence for> > > > long, possibly though out the Saturn period of 19 years.> > > > * Even the favoring authorities (as indicated by Su in 11th) can> > not> > > > help in stopping his fate which is sure to put him in prison for> > long.> > > > * Ma-Sa in 4th indicates that the activities of the native would> > be> > > > destructive for the society but beneficial to the worldly> > success of> > > > the native (till the tide changes). He will not repent and the> > trend> > > > will be followed throughout his life.> > > > * The Me desa would be no better than the Sa dasa going through> > tides,> > > > turbulences and occasional madness.> > > > * The native will again become famous, well known and successful> > only> > > > at the end of his life in Ve dasa. He will follow the same> > profession> > > > and will become well known in the same after the age of 65 years.> > > > Remark:> > > > =======> > > > This is the horoscope of a psychopath, with exceptional> > intelligence> > > > and professional success. He will for sure suffer the long prison> > > > sentence for 19 years for sure. His would be a unique life, and> > he> > > > will come back to popularity and professional success again in> > the> > > > late years of his life. All efforts to avoid the jail sentence is> > > > futile, remedies will not work, this being a strong result.> > > >> > > > Note: This being a very interesting horoscope with many unique> > > > combinations, I request others to continue the discussion on the> > same.> > > > Let us see what other details we can bring out from the same.> > > > Love,> > > > Sreenadh> > > > --- In> > <%40>> > <%> > 40>,> > > > Panditji> > > > <navagraha@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Namaste,> > > > >> > > > > The lagna is 26 degrees of Mithuna. Lagna is afflicted by rahu> > and> > > > shani.> > > > > Shani, mangal and guru are retrograde. Shukra is exalted and is> > > > aspected by> > > > > shani, with no controling aspect of guru, this can give strong> > sex> > > > drive. 4> > > > > malefics are in kendra. Guru is in tula rashi. Shukra, guru> > and ravi are> > > > > debilited in navansha.> > > > >> > > > > The dasha running is guru-rahu. Not many bad influences on> > chadra to> > > > suggest> > > > > mental imbalance. Chadra is in rahu nakshatra, thats the only> > > > negative I can> > > > > say about chandra in rashi. Birth is on poornima so chadra is> > strong.> > > > >> > > > > So, yes there is a strong possibility of elevated sex drive.> > Mangal and> > > > > shani drishti does not help to moderate shukra.> > > > >> > > > > ...> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On 6/7/07, subba_appa <subba.iyer@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Hello Learned astrologers:> > > > > >> > > > > > The native migrated from India to a country, where the laws> > are very> > > > > > strict and punishments are severe and in some cases the legal> > > > processes has> > > > > > resulted in a clear miscarriage of justice.> > > > > >> > > > > > The native was accused of molesting several women,> > assaulting a> > > > couple of> > > > > > women sexually and of a violent rape and all the crimes were> > > > supposedly> > > > > > committed in 6 months. this means he is a serial molester.> > > > > >> > > > > > He stood trial and claimed innocence. He was sentenced to 18> > years> > > > > > imprisonment. This happened in Sa/Ma as per Vimsottari dasa> > > > (started from> > > > > > lagna).> > > > > >> > > > > > I am the appointed counselor for him and during all my> > > > interactions, he> > > > > > comes across as a very intelligent and a sensible person,> > claiming> > > > > > innocence. There is definitely some incoherence in his> > > > communication and> > > > > > interaction, but it is difficult to pin it down to his> > inherent> > > > nature, as> > > > > > someone who can be falsely accused and has to spend his time> > in> > > > prison can> > > > > > show such behavior.The official rehabilitation officer also> > finds him> > > > > > intelligent, though the psychiatrist in charge of the case> > has> > > > reported> > > > > > (based on his tests) that he is a dangerous psychopath and it> > > > would be a> > > > > > danger to society if he was released.> > > > > >> > > > > > The native's mother is keen on an appeal to the highest> > court,> > > > though the> > > > > > lawyers have advised her that the appeal may not be> > successful in> > > > view of> > > > > > the psychiatrist opinion.> > > > > >> > > > > > His chart is interesting. Based on the details available> > with the> > > > > > authorities, the chart (D-1)shows 4 planets in exaltation, a> > Gaja> > > > kesari> > > > > > yoga, and except for the 4H being badly afflicted, it shows> > a good> > > > chart.> > > > > >> > > > > > *Birth details: May 7, 1982, time: 10:01 am, Nagpur, India. *> > > > > >> > > > > > *Here are the questions from a practical standpoint:*> > > > > >> > > > > > 1. Is it possible that he could have committed such serious> > crimes?> > > > > > 2. He believes that he was completely framed, and that his> > defence> > > > > > lawyer (appointed by the State) did a poor job. Was> > miscarriage> > > > of justice> > > > > > possible?> > > > > > 3. Is an appeal likely to be successful? The chances that the> > > > appeal> > > > > > may be entertained seems slim, given the psychiatrist> > opinion.> > > > > > 4. Are there any remedial measures possible to improve the> > state of> > > > > > affairs?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > *From an astrological standpoint:*> > > > > >> > > > > > 1. What aspects in the chart could indicate such deviant> > sexual> > > > > > behavior?> > > > > > 2. What aspects in the chart could indicate such a long> > prison> > > > term?> > > > > > 3. Does he inherently have psychopathic tendency or is he a> > victim> > > > > > of circumstances? How does that one judge that?> > > > > > 4. Is there a way to show that he was sexually abused> > himself when> > > > > > he was a child? How does one see that?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Given the seriousness of the situation, and given that it is> > a very> > > > > > interesting case, may I request the learned astrologers give> > a> > > > more detailed> > > > > > comprehensive response.> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > > > ________> With Windows Live Hotmail, you can personalize your inbox with your favorite color.> www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/personalize.html?locale=en-us & ocid=TXT_TAGLM_HMWL_reten_addcolor_0607> > > > ________> Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE!> http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/> Play free games, earn tickets, get cool prizes! Join Live Search Club.   Join Live Search Club!

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