Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 Om Datta GuruDear Sreenadh,Pls call me Sunil without the ji.1) There is method which is still in experiment stage by which the 'Starting Letter' (akshara) of a persons name can be predicted but the method cannot predict the full name - this is pure astrology method.2) a year back this method was used to predict to starting akshara of a person who was using a pen name called Soul Sadhak so her real name was not known - this prediction was done on the sohamsa list. This method was also used to predict akshara with success of the relatives of someone called Sundeep who writes by the name of astrosundeep if i remember well on the or rather ex-group of KNRao3) 3 yrs back when i was in Ramakrishna Paramhansa Library, I saw an old book called Gayatri Shastra which i always wanted back but could not get that page again as i wanted to photocopy it, it said very clearly that 'An Astrologer who cannot predict the name of the persons spouse and the name of the town where he/she would come from is not an astrologer' - I know this is harsh and would not go down well with many here, but I have felt this is the truth, have thought about it very deeply, it makes perfect sense.4) I know about the questioning trick in nadi centres, its not a pleasant experience5) I presume u are talking of Bhattopala's Rudrabhatyiyam or which work, long back i had requested u to translate that same in english for us, can u post here or privately the method I would like to take it further with ur assistance.6) Getting tangential, I have had discussions with some astrologers who said what is the use of predicting even the starting akshara of someone, he already knows his or her name and it would just be showing off ones predictive ability (which is what today astrology has become sadly) but i have dwelled far deeper into this aspect since the last one year and have realised that there is lot more that can be achieved by knowing the persons names etc, it is much more than what catches the eye u would agree maybe. Regards,Sunil John P.S: If someone has that book Gayatri Shastra pls let me know privately i always wanted reference of that page number for personal reasons.Sreenadh <sreesog Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:49:55 PM Re: Name of family members Dear Sunil ji, No, currently it is not possible to predict the name of family members, or even the name of the native itself using astrology. Bhattolpala gives some methods to derive the name of the native from horoscope, but none of them helps us to reach atleast near the truth. Forget normal astrology, even Nadi astrology does not have any "pure astrological method" to arrive at the family members. What they do currently is merely using a "questioning trick" to arrive at the name (as I could understand from many direct experience at vaiteswaran koil, in Tamil nadu). Please let me know, if you know anyone who can do the same. Please let me know. I would be happy to visit such astologers (Nadi, or non- nadi) with you. As I could see: There is NONE. Yes, no astrologer and no method to do the same. Love, Sreenadh ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil John <jjnet2000_in@ ...> wrote: > > Om Datta Guru > Dear Sreenadh, > Something caught my eye on what u wrote > > He want the astrologer to predict, what is the name of his family members, > > Is it not possible to predict name of family members with normal astrology (not referring here to nadi readings or divine or non divine powers) > > > > Regards, > Sunil John > > > > Sreenadh <sreesog > > ancient_indian_ astrology > Tuesday, May 29, 2007 10:36:18 AM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Are astrologers sincere?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear hmuttagi ji, > > * Often detailed analysis is necessary to ascertain the correctness > > of judgment > > * Most of the astrologers are not sincere (Because astrology becomes > > a tool for livelihood, money making, or fame); Sincere astrologers > > are rare. But remember there could be a big exception. There are many > > well learned professional astrologers who are very sincere (The > > sincerity sprigs from the respect for astrology), even though they > > are using astrology for livelihood. But there are many professional > > and amateur astrologers( ?) who does not have any understanding of the > > system and are just cheaters, and mere seekers of money or fame. Just > > like it is difficult to find a sincere professional astrologer, it is > > also difficult to find a sincere amateur astrologer. > > * Usually neither astrologers are fair to the querent, nor the > > querent fair to the astrologer. > > The querent usually wants the astrologer to waste his time and > > energy, even though he does not even know that astrologer in person. > > Usually he needs and even demands(!) a free reading, and is not > > willing to pay enough money to the professional astrologer. Even when > > he is ready to pay (thinking that he is consulting a professional > > astrologer), he makes the astrologer's life miserable by too many > > questions and by being addicted to astrology. He want the astrologer > > to predict, what is the name of his family members, and to answer the > > question why his wife quarreled with his yesterday!! When he is > > consulting an amateur astrologer, he makes his life miserable by > > demanding (!) the astrologer to waste much of his time and energy > > behind the same. But is usually even reluctant to express gratitude. > > * Astrology is a quest to know the future. A search, of the unknown > > (agnostic). It gives some clues, and is pleasure to pursue, as long > > as we are not addicted to it or depend too much on it, also as long > > as we are not much bothered about our horoscope or future. > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "hmuttagi" > > <hmuttagi@ .> wrote: > > > > > > Shree Ganeshaya namah, > > > > > > As an amateur reader of astrologer have read lot of books and > > postings > > > on various web sites. The sceince of interpreting Kundali (or the > > > rythmy of time as per Sreenadh) is very complex. It involves lot of > > > permutation and combination in order to arrive at correct > > judgement. > > > This being the case can astrologers just by looking at chart for > > couple > > > of minutes forecast the bhavishya of a native? Do they not ned to > > spend > > > at least couple of hours prior to verifying their judgement? 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