How knowledge manifest? (To Vinita ji and Kannan)

[Guest guest]

Dear Kannan ji, Vinita ji

To learn and master astrology, we should start from the small and

simple details in front of us. If we are looking into it with a unique

consciousness, everyday facts and usual things will reveal the hidden

knowledge-

See these words of an enlightened soul " Come to know what is in front

of you, and that which is hidden from you will become clear to you. "

(Jesus - In Gospel of Thomas)

 

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See the following obbservations from a good fiction: (From the book -

'God Debries'). Note that these ideas are drawn from simple things 'in

front of us'. These ideas are drawn from simple every day facts but

still presents a unique angle of view.

 

Extract -1

-----------

" Does God have free will? " he asked.

" Obviously he does, " I said. It was the most confidence

I had felt so far in this conversation. " I'll admit there's some

ambiguity about whether human beings have free will, but

God is omnipotent. Being omnipotent means you can do

anything you want. If God didn't have free will, he wouldn't

be very omnipotent. "

" Indeed. And being omnipotent, God must be able to

peer into his own future, to view it in all its perfect detail. "

" Yeah, I know. You're going to say that if he sees his

own future, then his choices are predetermined. Or, if he

can't see the future, then he's not omnipotent. "

" Omnipotence is trickier than it seems, " he said.

 

Extract -2

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" Consider magnets, " the old man said. " If you hold two

magnets near each other, they are attracted. Yet there is

nothing material connecting them. "

" Yes there is, " I corrected. " There's a magnetic field.

You can see it when you do that experiment with the metal

shavings on a piece of paper. You hold a magnet under the

paper and the shavings all organize along magnetic lines.

That's the magnetic field. "

" So you have a word for it. It's a `field,' you say. But you

can't get a handful of this thing for which you have a name.

You can't fill a container with a magnetic field and take it with

you. You can't cut it in pieces. You can't block its power. "

" You can't block it? I didn't know that. "

" You can alter a magnetic field by adding other magnetic

material, but there is no non-magnetic material you

can put between two magnets to block them. This `field' of

yours is strange stuff. We can see its effect, and we can

invent a name for it, but it doesn't exist in any physical

form. How can something that doesn't exist in physical

form have influence over the things that do? "

" Maybe it has physical form but it's small and we can't

see it. That's possible. Maybe there are tiny magnetrons or

something, " I said, making up a word.

" Consider gravity, " the old man continued, oblivious to

my creative answer. " Gravity is also an unseen force that cannot

be blocked by any object. It reaches across the entire universe

and connects all things, yet it has no physical form. "

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Do these extracts give some clue to Kannan, Vinita and me? - Most

probable is that all three of us look at this through our own lenses,

corrupted or enhanced by our experience. The lines or concepts that

attract our attention, or even the ideas or arguments we pull out may

be different. May be Kannan will be more impressed by that idea put

forward by Jesus, Vinita the logic employed in the extracts, Me in

co-relating even such things with astrology. But I think, the

extracts and the above mentioned idea put forward by Jesus are good

enough to give some unique guidance to all of us.

 

Regards,

Sreenadh

[Guest guest]

Dear Sreenadh,

 

I think the contradictions exist only when we try to think logically.

But is existence logical?

 

So far as astrology goes, i'm trying to live by the tenet of existing

in the present moment alone.(not that i succeed all the time..., but

i try...

 

some of the things u have mentioned in your message conform to the

perfect " loop " .

 

i am trying to explore this on my blog along with fractals. it would

be fun if u could visit the blog and give comments.

 

love,

 

vinita

 

p.s. it is available on google search as 'vinita's blog' in 360.

 

Unlike your impression about me, logic does not appeal to

me...because i find it hard to understand...i like to indulge in

flights of imagination

, " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Kannan ji, Vinita ji

> To learn and master astrology, we should start from the small and

> simple details in front of us. If we are looking into it with a

unique

> consciousness, everyday facts and usual things will reveal the

hidden

> knowledge-

> See these words of an enlightened soul " Come to know what is in

front

> of you, and that which is hidden from you will become clear to you. "

> (Jesus - In Gospel of Thomas)

>

> ****************************************

> See the following obbservations from a good fiction: (From the

book -

> 'God Debries'). Note that these ideas are drawn from simple

things 'in

> front of us'. These ideas are drawn from simple every day facts but

> still presents a unique angle of view.

>

> Extract -1

> -----------

> " Does God have free will? " he asked.

> " Obviously he does, " I said. It was the most confidence

> I had felt so far in this conversation. " I'll admit there's some

> ambiguity about whether human beings have free will, but

> God is omnipotent. Being omnipotent means you can do

> anything you want. If God didn't have free will, he wouldn't

> be very omnipotent. "

> " Indeed. And being omnipotent, God must be able to

> peer into his own future, to view it in all its perfect detail. "

> " Yeah, I know. You're going to say that if he sees his

> own future, then his choices are predetermined. Or, if he

> can't see the future, then he's not omnipotent. "

> " Omnipotence is trickier than it seems, " he said.

>

> Extract -2

> -----------

> " Consider magnets, " the old man said. " If you hold two

> magnets near each other, they are attracted. Yet there is

> nothing material connecting them. "

> " Yes there is, " I corrected. " There's a magnetic field.

> You can see it when you do that experiment with the metal

> shavings on a piece of paper. You hold a magnet under the

> paper and the shavings all organize along magnetic lines.

> That's the magnetic field. "

> " So you have a word for it. It's a `field,' you say. But you

> can't get a handful of this thing for which you have a name.

> You can't fill a container with a magnetic field and take it with

> you. You can't cut it in pieces. You can't block its power. "

> " You can't block it? I didn't know that. "

> " You can alter a magnetic field by adding other magnetic

> material, but there is no non-magnetic material you

> can put between two magnets to block them. This `field' of

> yours is strange stuff. We can see its effect, and we can

> invent a name for it, but it doesn't exist in any physical

> form. How can something that doesn't exist in physical

> form have influence over the things that do? "

> " Maybe it has physical form but it's small and we can't

> see it. That's possible. Maybe there are tiny magnetrons or

> something, " I said, making up a word.

> " Consider gravity, " the old man continued, oblivious to

> my creative answer. " Gravity is also an unseen force that cannot

> be blocked by any object. It reaches across the entire universe

> and connects all things, yet it has no physical form. "

> ****************************************

> Do these extracts give some clue to Kannan, Vinita and me? - Most

> probable is that all three of us look at this through our own

lenses,

> corrupted or enhanced by our experience. The lines or concepts that

> attract our attention, or even the ideas or arguments we pull out

may

> be different. May be Kannan will be more impressed by that idea put

> forward by Jesus, Vinita the logic employed in the extracts, Me in

> co-relating even such things with astrology. But I think, the

> extracts and the above mentioned idea put forward by Jesus are good

> enough to give some unique guidance to all of us.

>

> Regards,

> Sreenadh

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sreenadhji,

 

Thanks for this message and the earlier fish. I am getting what you

thought for me.

 

Regards,

Kannan

 

, " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Kannan ji, Vinita ji

> To learn and master astrology, we should start from the small and

> simple details in front of us. If we are looking into it with a

unique

> consciousness, everyday facts and usual things will reveal the

hidden

> knowledge-

> See these words of an enlightened soul " Come to know what is in

front

> of you, and that which is hidden from you will become clear to

you. "

> (Jesus - In Gospel of Thomas)

>

> ****************************************

> See the following obbservations from a good fiction: (From the

book -

> 'God Debries'). Note that these ideas are drawn from simple

things 'in

> front of us'. These ideas are drawn from simple every day facts

but

> still presents a unique angle of view.

>

> Extract -1

> -----------

> " Does God have free will? " he asked.

> " Obviously he does, " I said. It was the most confidence

> I had felt so far in this conversation. " I'll admit there's some

> ambiguity about whether human beings have free will, but

> God is omnipotent. Being omnipotent means you can do

> anything you want. If God didn't have free will, he wouldn't

> be very omnipotent. "

> " Indeed. And being omnipotent, God must be able to

> peer into his own future, to view it in all its perfect detail. "

> " Yeah, I know. You're going to say that if he sees his

> own future, then his choices are predetermined. Or, if he

> can't see the future, then he's not omnipotent. "

> " Omnipotence is trickier than it seems, " he said.

>

> Extract -2

> -----------

> " Consider magnets, " the old man said. " If you hold two

> magnets near each other, they are attracted. Yet there is

> nothing material connecting them. "

> " Yes there is, " I corrected. " There's a magnetic field.

> You can see it when you do that experiment with the metal

> shavings on a piece of paper. You hold a magnet under the

> paper and the shavings all organize along magnetic lines.

> That's the magnetic field. "

> " So you have a word for it. It's a `field,' you say. But you

> can't get a handful of this thing for which you have a name.

> You can't fill a container with a magnetic field and take it with

> you. You can't cut it in pieces. You can't block its power. "

> " You can't block it? I didn't know that. "

> " You can alter a magnetic field by adding other magnetic

> material, but there is no non-magnetic material you

> can put between two magnets to block them. This `field' of

> yours is strange stuff. We can see its effect, and we can

> invent a name for it, but it doesn't exist in any physical

> form. How can something that doesn't exist in physical

> form have influence over the things that do? "

> " Maybe it has physical form but it's small and we can't

> see it. That's possible. Maybe there are tiny magnetrons or

> something, " I said, making up a word.

> " Consider gravity, " the old man continued, oblivious to

> my creative answer. " Gravity is also an unseen force that cannot

> be blocked by any object. It reaches across the entire universe

> and connects all things, yet it has no physical form. "

> ****************************************

> Do these extracts give some clue to Kannan, Vinita and me? - Most

> probable is that all three of us look at this through our own

lenses,

> corrupted or enhanced by our experience. The lines or concepts that

> attract our attention, or even the ideas or arguments we pull out

may

> be different. May be Kannan will be more impressed by that idea

put

> forward by Jesus, Vinita the logic employed in the extracts, Me in

> co-relating even such things with astrology. But I think, the

> extracts and the above mentioned idea put forward by Jesus are good

> enough to give some unique guidance to all of us.

>

> Regards,

> Sreenadh

>