Guest guest Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Hi All, Here is a story- ======================================== Mulla Nasrudin sat fishing in a bucket of water. A visitor, wishing to be friendly, asked, " How many have you caught? " " YOU ARE THE NINTH, " said Nasrudin. ======================================== News: The real name of Narantu Brandan is Haridattan! Note 1: The man who was known as the mad man of Naranatu, who is one of the children of Vararuchi the great astronomer of AD 5th century. Note 2: Hari-dattan is the originator of ancient Parahita system of Astronomical calculations for computing the position of planets. Love, Sreenadh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 Good parable-ic way of introducing Parahita sys. Tell us briefly. Briefly because I have pressing questions to ask the forum thru you. Best, RKSreenadh <sreesog wrote: Hi All,Here is a story-========================================Mulla Nasrudin sat fishing in a bucket of water.A visitor, wishing to be friendly, asked, "How many have you caught?""YOU ARE THE NINTH," said Nasrudin.========================================News: The real name of Narantu Brandan is Haridattan!Note 1: The man who was known as the mad man of Naranatu, who is oneof the children of Vararuchi the great astronomer of AD 5th century.Note 2: Hari-dattan is the originator of ancient Parahita system ofAstronomical calculations for computing the position of planets. Love,Sreenadh Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 Dear RK ji, Vararuchi who lived in 5th century AD is considered as the father figure of Kerala system of Astronomy. He is considered to be the person who introduced 'Kapatayadi' system of counting. Ka-Pa-Ta-Ya system uses letters for indicating numbers. For example- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 Ka Kha Ga Gha Nja C Cha Ja Jha Ncha Ta Tha Da Dha Na Ta Tha Da Dha Na Pa Pha Ba Bha Ma Ya Ra La Va Sa Sha Sa Ha Read the letters below 1 and you get the name given for the system 'Ka-Ta-Pa-Ya'. This system was used in olden days to notate numbers in poetic manner. For example, 'Aayurarogya soukhyam' indicates the date at which 'Melpattur Naraya Bhattatiri' completed the great literary text 'Narayaneeya' a prayer to God Krishna. The life story of Vararuchi is beautiful. He was a brahim. But happended to marry a girl born in lower cast called 'Paraya'. In her, 12 children were born to Vararuchi. But at the moment of birth itself the children were discarded, and was later adopted by people of different casts. It is said that were all, well known and enlightened individuals. If we believe the story, they were all abnormal - above the normal - and were rebels. One of them is 'The mad man of Naranattu'. The story about him says that, every day morning he used to roll a rock up towards the peak of a hill, when it reaches the summit he will allow it to roll it down, and laugh loudly and happily like a child as it rolls down! It was said to be his daily routine. There are many stories about Vararuchi and about each of his 12 children. Hari Datta is well known in Kerala system of astronomy. He is the originator of 'Parahita' system of calculation, used for calculating the position of planets. This system was later modified/corrected by later day astrologers, and a new system called 'Driggenita' originated. Now some of the historians say that Naranattu and Hari Datta is one and the same!! I too think so, because true genius is really mad - up above the normal- and lives in a parallel universe. Note: Sorry, it was not that brief, but what to do, story are always lengthy, but still usually readable. Love, Sreenadh , rk dash <arkaydash wrote: > > Good parable-ic way of introducing Parahita sys. Tell us briefly. Briefly because I have pressing questions to ask the forum thru you. > > Best, > RK > > Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: > Hi All, > Here is a story- > > ======================================== > Mulla Nasrudin sat fishing in a bucket of water. > > A visitor, wishing to be friendly, asked, " How many have you caught? " > > " YOU ARE THE NINTH, " said Nasrudin. > ======================================== > > News: The real name of Narantu Brandan is Haridattan! > > Note 1: The man who was known as the mad man of Naranatu, who is one > of the children of Vararuchi the great astronomer of AD 5th century. > > Note 2: Hari-dattan is the originator of ancient Parahita system of > Astronomical calculations for computing the position of planets. > > Love, > Sreenadh > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 No, that's OK, Sree. Length fine. You are good at spinning yarn. Liked this one. Would come across the phrase 'katapayadi sutra' now and then but took it for 'cryptic formula', which still holds in light of your words. But the literality was yet unavailable to me. Thanx a mountain: by the way I happen to read the Sisyphus myth into Naranattu's futile genius. By 'driggenita' you must be meaning 'drik ganita'. Is that something to do with 'drik siddhanta' in Khagola Sastra? Will later add some to your line of 'prejna' peroration, but am not sure if the forum would enjoy reading heavy stuff. RK Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear RK ji,Vararuchi who lived in 5th century AD is considered as the father figure of Kerala system of Astronomy. He is considered to be the person who introduced 'Kapatayadi' system of counting. Ka-Pa-Ta-Ya system uses letters for indicating numbers. For example-1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0Ka Kha Ga Gha Nja C Cha Ja Jha NchaTa Tha Da Dha Na Ta Tha Da Dha NaPa Pha Ba Bha Ma Ya Ra La Va Sa Sha Sa HaRead the letters below 1 and you get the name given for the system 'Ka-Ta-Pa-Ya'. This system was used in olden days to notate numbers in poetic manner. For example, 'Aayurarogya soukhyam' indicates the date at which 'Melpattur Naraya Bhattatiri' completed the great literary text 'Narayaneeya' a prayer to God Krishna.The life story of Vararuchi is beautiful. He was a brahim. But happended to marry a girl born in lower cast called 'Paraya'. In her, 12 children were born to Vararuchi. But at the moment of birth itself the children were discarded, and was later adopted by people of different casts. It is said that were all, well known and enlightened individuals. If we believe the story, they were all abnormal - above the normal - and were rebels. One of them is 'The mad man of Naranattu'. The story about him says that, every day morning he used to roll a rock up towards the peak of a hill, when it reaches the summit he will allow it to roll it down, and laugh loudly and happily like a child as it rolls down! It was said to be his daily routine. There are many stories about Vararuchi and about each of his 12 children. Hari Datta is well known in Kerala system of astronomy. He is the originator of 'Parahita' system of calculation, used for calculating the position of planets. This system was later modified/corrected by later day astrologers, and a new system called 'Driggenita' originated.Now some of the historians say that Naranattu and Hari Datta is one and the same!! I too think so, because true genius is really mad - up above the normal- and lives in a parallel universe. :)Note: Sorry, it was not that brief, but what to do, story are always lengthy, but still usually readable. Love,Sreenadh , rk dash <arkaydash wrote:>> Good parable-ic way of introducing Parahita sys. Tell us briefly. Briefly because I have pressing questions to ask the forum thru you.> > Best,> RK> > Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:> Hi All,> Here is a story-> > ========================================> Mulla Nasrudin sat fishing in a bucket of water.> > A visitor, wishing to be friendly, asked, "How many have you caught?"> > "YOU ARE THE NINTH," said Nasrudin.> ========================================> > News: The real name of Narantu Brandan is Haridattan!> > Note 1: The man who was known as the mad man of Naranatu, who is one> of the children of Vararuchi the great astronomer of AD 5th century.> > Note 2: Hari-dattan is the originator of ancient Parahita system of> Astronomical calculations for computing the position of planets. > > Love,> Sreenadh> > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers> Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Dear RK ji, You are right. By 'driggenita' i meant 'drik ganita'. Please note that - 'Drik Ganita' is a word which was used in two meaning. It would be more apt to say that it got two separate meanings due to the history of events. 1) 'Drik Ganita' means ' (astronomical) calculations done which sticks to the actual observations (as seen by eye)'. Even from the period of rishis the word is in use. You will encounter this word even in 'Parasara Hora' (and in other Rishi horas as well) 2) Surya sidhanta tradition was taken up and modified by Aryabhatta. The tradition was taken up by 'Hari datta' in kerala and 'Para hita' system (The astronomical system of calculation for the 'benefit of others') originated. Later 'Neelakanta Somayaji' modified it and thus originated the astronomical calculation system which came to be known in kerala as 'Drik Ganita' (i.e 'Para hita' system corrected as per actual observation of sky and planets with eye). Drik means 'eyes' and 'Ganita' means mathematics (which included astronomy and pure mathematics as per ancient terminology). => Is that something to do with 'drik siddhanta' in Khagola Sastra? Sidhanta = Is the branch of astrology that deals with Astronomical mathematics. Any book that deals with this subject is termed 'Sidhata' (text) as well. The word meaning is 'Theoretical conclusion' or in short `Theorem'. Drik Sidhanta = Any text describing the astronomical computations to be followed to arrive at planetary longitude, that will match with actual observation of cosmic movements (especially planetary movements, even though calendar calculations, eclipse calculations etc etc are also involved). Yes, Drik Ganita and Drik Sidhanta mean almost the same. The only special meaning embedded is 'Sidhanta' means 'Theoretical conclusion' and 'Ganita' rather points to something to do, actual practice, 'Mathematical calculations' as done by someone. We use to 'Do Ganita' i.e do mathematical calculations, but we used to 'Study Sidhanta' i.e. study 'the theoretical foundations of astronomical mathematics'. Or 'Theorems' related to astronomy. Khagola Sastra = Kha-gola Sastra = The branch of study that deals with the study of spherical sky (sky-globe) that surrounds earth. In short it is another name for 'Astronomy', but is more concerned about 'Astronomical Mathematics' Yes, 'drik siddhanta' (is) part of Khagola Sastra. Using modern terminology, 'Theorems' related to astronomy is part of 'Astronomy' Note: Sorry, for being too technical. Techies are always after uncrackable 'Nuts' and 'jargon', and want to be specific and accurate. But that too is necessary, without which exact understanding is not possible, the software cannot be made or the process cannot be automated. But once at home it is better to forget the materialistic (read technicalities), and be immersed in love (read consciousness). Love, Sreenadh , rk dash <arkaydash wrote: > > > No, that's OK, Sree. Length fine. You are good at spinning yarn. Liked this one. Would come across the phrase 'katapayadi sutra' now and then but took it for 'cryptic formula', which still holds in light of your words. But the literality was yet unavailable to me. Thanx a mountain: by the way I happen to read the Sisyphus myth into Naranattu's futile genius. > > By 'driggenita' you must be meaning 'drik ganita'. Is that something to do with 'drik siddhanta' in Khagola Sastra? > > Will later add some to your line of 'prejna' peroration, but am not sure if the forum would enjoy reading heavy stuff. > > RK > > > > Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: > Dear RK ji, > Vararuchi who lived in 5th century AD is considered as the father > figure of Kerala system of Astronomy. He is considered to be the > person who introduced 'Kapatayadi' system of counting. Ka-Pa-Ta-Ya > system uses letters for indicating numbers. For example- > 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 > Ka Kha Ga Gha Nja C Cha Ja Jha Ncha > Ta Tha Da Dha Na Ta Tha Da Dha Na > Pa Pha Ba Bha Ma > Ya Ra La Va Sa Sha Sa Ha > > Read the letters below 1 and you get the name given for the > system 'Ka-Ta-Pa-Ya'. This system was used in olden days to notate > numbers in poetic manner. For example, 'Aayurarogya soukhyam' > indicates the date at which 'Melpattur Naraya Bhattatiri' completed > the great literary text 'Narayaneeya' a prayer to God Krishna. > The life story of Vararuchi is beautiful. He was a brahim. But > happended to marry a girl born in lower cast called 'Paraya'. In > her, 12 children were born to Vararuchi. But at the moment of birth > itself the children were discarded, and was later adopted by people > of different casts. It is said that were all, well known and > enlightened individuals. If we believe the story, they were all > abnormal - above the normal - and were rebels. One of them is 'The > mad man of Naranattu'. The story about him says that, every day > morning he used to roll a rock up towards the peak of a hill, when > it reaches the summit he will allow it to roll it down, and laugh > loudly and happily like a child as it rolls down! It was said to be > his daily routine. There are many stories about Vararuchi and > about each of his 12 children. > Hari Datta is well known in Kerala system of astronomy. He is the > originator of 'Parahita' system of calculation, used for calculating > the position of planets. This system was later modified/corrected by > later day astrologers, and a new system called 'Driggenita' > originated. > Now some of the historians say that Naranattu and Hari Datta is > one and the same!! I too think so, because true genius is really > mad - up above the normal- and lives in a parallel universe. > > Note: Sorry, it was not that brief, but what to do, story are > always lengthy, but still usually readable. > Love, > Sreenadh > > , rk dash > <arkaydash@> wrote: > > > > Good parable-ic way of introducing Parahita sys. Tell us briefly. > Briefly because I have pressing questions to ask the forum thru you. > > > > Best, > > RK > > > > Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote: > > Hi All, > > Here is a story- > > > > ======================================== > > Mulla Nasrudin sat fishing in a bucket of water. > > > > A visitor, wishing to be friendly, asked, " How many have you > caught? " > > > > " YOU ARE THE NINTH, " said Nasrudin. > > ======================================== > > > > News: The real name of Narantu Brandan is Haridattan! > > > > Note 1: The man who was known as the mad man of Naranatu, who is > one > > of the children of Vararuchi the great astronomer of AD 5th > century. > > > > Note 2: Hari-dattan is the originator of ancient Parahita system of > > Astronomical calculations for computing the position of planets. > > > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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