Guest guest Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 Dear Shreenadh, Good to see the forum perking up! :)Touchwood! Yes it is fun to play around with questions....have frothing discussions.....frolic in forums, etc., etc. (I can almost see Arkayjee frowning....pointing an admonishing finger to say this is a serious forum meant for serious discussions) Hope u are settling well in Delhi. Do you know there is a constant tussle in Delhi between the desert and the greenery. The Thar always tries to encroach and so we plant trees. Some of the streets look so lovely with trees on either side, u must have noticed. Of course nothing compared to Green Kerala. May the succulent green always thrive over the desert. Even within us. Love, Vinita , sree nadh <sreesog wrote: > > > Hai vinita ji, > It is many days I have seen one of your mails! It is > a pleasant surprise! I know that, you will say the > same about me as well. > Dear Vinita ji, Your question is absolutely right. > But I don't think I am the proper person to answer > that question. Actually I don't know. > My approach is to take it simply as just a question, > a question put forward by surya ji. A question that > can be used as a tool to share knowledge and invoke > other valuable ideas. What is there in a question? It > is the beautiful thoughts comes along with it, and > caused by it, is what is really important, I think. > What is your opinion? > Of course we got one more dear good friend, Surya ji. > right? > It is his doubt and qn and let him be worried about > it, and let us play with it. If he comes up with > something new and beautiful, let us also share it, let > us fuel him with info bits so that he shine like sun > producing light and energy in our group. > Love, > Sreenadh > > --- vinita kumar <shankar_mamta wrote: > > > Dear Suryaji, Shreenadhji, > > > > Why is it important to know how old is astrology? > > Specially since > > one dosn't know when a more ancient fossil / text > > may be discovered > > next? > > > > Love, > > > > Vinita > > > > , > > surya ianala > > <suri_allam@> wrote: > > > > > > Om Sri gurave Namah! > > > Dear Sreenadh jee, > > > I am definetly interested in answer, and treat > > me like a kid :- > > )) please. > > > It is really getting beautiful, as per > > paleontology, it is > > believed that human species originated around 40 > > million human years > > i.e. 40,000,000, human years but this is based on > > the the knowledge > > based on fossils, which does not mean that there are > > no fossils > > lying unearthed and also no human species existed > > before that, and > > if a species is preserved as a fossil, then only we > > can get some > > knowledge about it, if nothing is left, it becomes > > extinct, > > knowledge wise. > > > So how do we link these two, 1- Time frame as > > specified based on > > precision etc. and the possible time frame projected > > by fossils. > > > goal is to prove that humans existed before 40 > > million human > > years, and jyotisha existed before this time and > > humans were vedic > > in culture in india atleast. > > > As you said let us start from the begining, > > > 1- gods created earth, and vedas- delivered to > > rishis. skanda > > hora or jyotishmati created by brahama, the first, > > so is manu > > smiriti the first. but we do not know when, by > > simply saying, it is > > eternal or you are violating god by asking such an > > such question- > > this is ancient philosophy, how will we reach the > > truth, we need > > some chain to hang on first, then we slowly move > > inwards, till we > > reach the dead end, we mark it, go back catch > > another one, repeat it > > till we get hold of all and then consolidate. > > > 2- To calculate the life of earth, precision of > > equinox is one > > way to calculate astrological age in terms of human > > years, one > > sideral year is about 25,800 to 25,920 human years. > > hence rishis > > calculated.creation is 1,96,08,53,002 human years. > > > 3- geologists- Earth is 4.567 billion human > > years old, i.e. > > 4,56,70,00,000 human years. > > > 4- Scope for hypothesis- 4567000000 - 1960853002 > > = 2606146998 > > human years are still to account for. > > > 5- Brahma vidya- one cycle of brahma- one cycle > > of creation- > > destruction- > > > The Life of Brahma is 311 Trillion Earth > > years= One > > creation - destruction or one cycle > > > 6- Time is a human measure only call it earth > > years, or human > > years. > > > 7- Now where are we, how old is jyotisha? :-))) > > > Thanks! keep throwing.it is getting beautiful!!! > > > Om Namah Shivai! > > > SPI > > > > > > sree nadh <sreesog@> wrote: > > > Dear Surya ji, > > > The Rishis were not fools and because of that the > > > Yuga system is really a mathematical theory based > > on > > > the precession of equinox and not a measure of > > human > > > years! > > > If you want to learn more read the articles in > > files > > > section. If we respect the Rishis it is better not > > to > > > under estimate or over estimate them. Just try to > > > understand them as they are! > > > >'How old is Jyothisha?' > > > Are you interested in an answer, or just seeking > > an > > > outlet chance to expose your knowledge on the > > same? > > > > > > Both way, you are welcome. > > > Tell me - > > > Which is the first book of astrology? > > > If it is Skanda hora at which period this text > > > originated? > > > If it is Rig veda at which period this text > > > originated? > > > If God gave the Rig veda and the astrology > > contained > > > in it to the seers, then Jotisha is as old as the > > god > > > itself, and anybody asking 'How old is Jyothisha' > > is > > > violating the god, beacuase he knows that Jyotisha > > is > > > eternal, and still using the question as a tool > > for > > > his ego fullfillment!! > > > If he knows that Nirayana astrology is based on > > the > > > original text 'Skanda hora' then such a person > > will > > > not ask such a question, because he knows that it > > is > > > difficult to ascertain the period of texts without > > > enough evidences. > > > All these are getting very beautiful! > > > > > > If somebody understands Yuga system in its proper > > > way, then he won't argue based on that, because > > then > > > he knows what and why the Rishi meant when he > > proposed > > > the Yuga system! > > > If somebody does not understand the Yuga system, > > then > > > also he won't argue based on that, because then he > > > knows that these huge numbers essentially escape > > his > > > understanding and therefore shouldn't use them as > > > argument base! > > > Yes, it is half baked knowledge like mine is that > > > asks questions and seeks for answers based on > > partial > > > or false understanding!! > > > But any way, how could we know that the knowledge > > > bit were we placed our foot upon is soft or strong > > > before hand?! When the doubts prevail even about > > the > > > basics, how to catch the chains that are really > > linked > > > to the original, and not give the false illusion > > and > > > make us fall?! The only way is start from the > > > originals. Learning is a direct process, > > evidences > > > should be direct as far as possible. Let it be > > > Spirituality or History this rule remains the > > same!!! > > > P.S.:- A qn for all to meditate 'How old is > > > Jyotisha?'. Just meditate and write down the > > thoughts > > > that comes after that related to this subject. An > > > answer to that qn is not expected (because an > > answer > > > is not possible) but I request others to share > > their > > > beautiful thoughts. > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > --- surya ianala <suri_allam@> wrote: > > > > > > > Om Sri gurave Namah! > > > > Dear Sreenadh jee, > > > > One evidence for veda's as per swami ramaswarup > > is > > > > as following.Yajur veda cp 31, Rigveda Mandal 10 > > > > sukta 129, Atharvaveda 8/11/3-6 & Samaveda 617, > > say > > > > that the knowledge of four veda's were directly > > > > delivered by god at the time of creation of > > earth. > > > > Manu smariti Cp 1 > > > > Current age of the earth is: 7 manvanter, 28 > > > > chaturyugi, i.e.1 Arab, 96 crore, 8 lakh, 53002 > > > > years. Names of passed manvanters, Swayambhar, > > > > Swarochish, Ottmi, Tamas, Ryivat & Chakshash. > > > > calculation: > > > > 1 Manvanter = 71 Chaturyugi > > > > 1 Chaturyugi= four yugas, Satya, Treta, Dwapur, > > & > > > > Kaliyug. > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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