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[Guest guest]

Ms MamataShankar,

 

If you think you got the drift, will you be in the lucky league or

prefer to be workful instead of larking about on forum(s)?

 

We are serious here; we are deep-blue cerebral, I can assure you.

Make no mistake about the fun quotient available here. It can far

exceed what you can expect. Can you hold it? I can wager anything

(at least a week's mauna) if you can beat, well, me for instance

with your expectation. You can't just handle it if humour from is

unleashed.

 

We on the honey-dew have fed

And drunk the power of Mercury

 

 

And that's a word of caution. (Oh, did I happen to crank out a

nursery rhyme?)

 

Love (You've won it)

RK

 

 

, " vinita kumar "

<shankar_mamta wrote:

>

> Dear RK ji,

>

> " Engage in something that is aligned to quality ratiocination and

> that adds to forum members' understanding. Else, one wanders among

> the disrelations between words and referents, feeling happy that

one

> is lucky being a scatter-brain. "

>

> I read these words with rapt attention and found that i did not

> understand all the words there. :;)

>

> But i think what i got was the general drift of what u were trying

> to say.

>

> For me participating on forums is more of a fun thing. Actually,

> learning can be fun if we are not too serious.

>

> I have learnt a lot from this forum - which is full of learned

> members.

>

> I am going to post two messages, (in response to your

> exhortations ) to " read " more before posting stuff on this forum.

>

> But after this i hope u will allow me to post at least 10 " non-

> serious " messages which do not involve reading too much!!!???

>

> :)

>

> Love,

>

> Vinita

>

>

>

> , " arkaydash "

> <arkaydash@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vinita,

> > Sorry to point out you have glossed over what I try to tell you

> and

> > gone on being, well, word-happy.

> >

> > I wrote:

> >

> > " Few gracefully accept. They are contented souls, or more

> > perhaps. The rest make up the big world that is not all

beatitude.

> >

> > When I said they (the rest) cannot accept, could I have meant

they

> > crank up within themselves oodles of energy, cast about and

mouth

> > inanities, and get fresh and what have you?

> >

> > Because they cannot accept, they won't pause to join words to

> their

> > referents. I wrote the following in response to the two points

you

> > make in your Revisiting Astrology posting, believing you were

> > earnest.

> >

> > " > > And they must catch up too - making use of astrology

> variously

> > as

> > > > superstitious crutch, as ambitious spurs, or as oars. Which

> > > > depends.

> > > >

> > > > There is something comparable, something that swishes away

> what

> > is

> > > > substantive to what we are trying to understand here... "

> >

> > Engage in something that is aligned to quality ratiocination and

> > that adds to forum members' understanding. Else, one wanders

among

> > the disrelations between words and referents, feeling happy that

> one

> > is lucky being a scatter-brain.

> >

> > I for one find that rather off-putting.

> >

> > Do your own thinking. But before that read up enough.

> >

> > Take care.

> >

> > RK

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " vinita kumar "

> > <shankar_mamta@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Arkay,

> > >

> > > " Just that you got a little too blithe (I don't mean you

remain

> > dour

> > > in the company of your " wonderful friends " here). "

> > >

> > > I think all of us, and u too, would prefer to be blithe rather

> > that

> > > dour....In any case what makes us blithe and what makes us

dour

> > is

> > > illusory.....so no harm in having illusions that make us

happy.

> As

> > > regards " too " blithe....its just a matter of how much energy

we

> > can

> > > crank up within ourselves to be whatever we are, isn't it???

> > >

> > > " Astrology could be vanished if we were all perfect beings,

the

> > world

> > > were not a vale of soul-making " .

> > >

> > > But dear, the world is a " vale of soul-making " ....why else are

> we

> > > here if not to evolve??? ISn't that a very natural thing to

> > happen???

> > >

> > > Nalini writes:

> > >

> > > " ...if certain experiences have been given to you it is

because

> you

> > > have wished it so. It is never a reward and punishment theory

as

> > for

> > > as the Divine is considered. All deeds are but the wishes of

the

> > > inner I. It becomes so much more easier that all the ills are

> > > foisted on us by *ourselves*... "

> > >

> > > Yesterday, I was savouring (read that as licking and lapping

up)

> > > OSho's write-up posted by Shreenadh. It mentions something

about

> > we

> > > choosing the constellations we are born under...so that we can

> > > experience what we have to experience. By the same logic we

may

> > > choose the prarabhda we have to live thru in this life, don't

u

> > > think???

> > >

> > > Yes, would love to hear more....

> > >

> > > Love,

> > >

> > > Vinita

> > >

> > >

> > > , " arkaydash "

> > > <arkaydash@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > , " vinita

> kumar "

> > > > <shankar_mamta@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > Dear Vinita,

> > > > Just that you got a little too blithe (I don't mean you

remain

> > > dour

> > > > in the company of your " wonderful friends " here). And I

write.

> > > >

> > > > Astrology could be vanished if we were all perfect beings,

the

> > > world

> > > > were not a vale of soul-making.

> > > >

> > > > 'Is' and 'will become' are two different visages Time wears.

> The

> > > > second premise puts to sleep the eager maker of our little

> > worlds

> > > > that we are. His Will is verbally eloquent. Is rarely

> submitted

> > > to.

> > > > {Is not easy to access. Not easy in that we are lost in

> surround

> > > > sounds.} Few gracefully accept. They are contented souls, or

> > more

> > > > perhaps. The rest make up the big world that is not all

> > beatitude.

> > > > And they must catch up too - making use of astrology

variously

> > as

> > > > superstitious crutch, as ambitious spurs, or as oars. Which

> > > > depends.

> > > >

> > > > There is something comparable, something that swishes away

> what

> > is

> > > > substantive to what we are trying to understand here,

> something

> > > that

> > > > creates a lucid void when Nalini writes

> > > >

> > > > ...if certain experiences have been given to you it is

because

> > you

> > > > have wished it so. It is never a reward and punishment

theory

> as

> > > for

> > > > as the Divine is considered. All deeds are but the wishes of

> the

> > > > inner I. It becomes so much more easier that all the ills

are

> > > > foisted on us by *ourselves*...

> > > >

> > > > particularly when she says ills are foisted by ourselves.

Such

> > > > ownership takes it to the other simplistic extreme.

> > > >

> > > > More later. Tell me if you (both) get the drift.

> > > >

> > > > RK

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Shreenadh, all!

> > > > >

> > > > > I was just thinking that if we keep in mind the following

> two

> > > > things:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Whatever is now will never remain the same

> > > > > 2. Whatever happens next, is for my own good, let me

accept

> it

> > > > > completely ( " Thy will be done " )

> > > > >

> > > > > the relevance of astrology disappears completely.

> VAMOOOOOZ!

> > > > >

> > > > > Or is there there something more to the study of this

> subject

> > > that

> > > > i

> > > > > am missing???

> > > > >

> > > > > Would love to hear from all of u.

> > > > >

> > > > > Luv,

> > > > >

> > > > > Vinita

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear RK ji,

 

" We are serious here; we are deep-blue cerebral "

 

Now i am totally awed.

 

I think i am the one who should remain " mauna " for weeks together or

go to some other nursery swings.

 

BTW, Mercury has swung retro, i think!

 

Love,

Vinita

 

, " arkaydash "

<arkaydash wrote:

>

> Ms MamataShankar,

>

> If you think you got the drift, will you be in the lucky league or

> prefer to be workful instead of larking about on forum(s)?

>

> We are serious here; we are deep-blue cerebral, I can assure you.

> Make no mistake about the fun quotient available here. It can far

> exceed what you can expect. Can you hold it? I can wager anything

> (at least a week's mauna) if you can beat, well, me for instance

> with your expectation. You can't just handle it if humour from is

> unleashed.

>

> We on the honey-dew have fed

> And drunk the power of Mercury

>

>

> And that's a word of caution. (Oh, did I happen to crank out a

> nursery rhyme?)

>

> Love (You've won it)

> RK

>

>

> , " vinita kumar "

> <shankar_mamta@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear RK ji,

> >

> > " Engage in something that is aligned to quality ratiocination and

> > that adds to forum members' understanding. Else, one wanders

among

> > the disrelations between words and referents, feeling happy that

> one

> > is lucky being a scatter-brain. "

> >

> > I read these words with rapt attention and found that i did not

> > understand all the words there. :;)

> >

> > But i think what i got was the general drift of what u were

trying

> > to say.

> >

> > For me participating on forums is more of a fun thing. Actually,

> > learning can be fun if we are not too serious.

> >

> > I have learnt a lot from this forum - which is full of learned

> > members.

> >

> > I am going to post two messages, (in response to your

> > exhortations ) to " read " more before posting stuff on this

forum.

> >

> > But after this i hope u will allow me to post at least 10 " non-

> > serious " messages which do not involve reading too much!!!???

> >

> > :)

> >

> > Love,

> >

> > Vinita

> >

> >

> >

> > , " arkaydash "

> > <arkaydash@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vinita,

> > > Sorry to point out you have glossed over what I try to tell

you

> > and

> > > gone on being, well, word-happy.

> > >

> > > I wrote:

> > >

> > > " Few gracefully accept. They are contented souls, or more

> > > perhaps. The rest make up the big world that is not all

> beatitude.

> > >

> > > When I said they (the rest) cannot accept, could I have meant

> they

> > > crank up within themselves oodles of energy, cast about and

> mouth

> > > inanities, and get fresh and what have you?

> > >

> > > Because they cannot accept, they won't pause to join words to

> > their

> > > referents. I wrote the following in response to the two points

> you

> > > make in your Revisiting Astrology posting, believing you were

> > > earnest.

> > >

> > > " > > And they must catch up too - making use of astrology

> > variously

> > > as

> > > > > superstitious crutch, as ambitious spurs, or as oars.

Which

> > > > > depends.

> > > > >

> > > > > There is something comparable, something that swishes away

> > what

> > > is

> > > > > substantive to what we are trying to understand here... "

> > >

> > > Engage in something that is aligned to quality ratiocination

and

> > > that adds to forum members' understanding. Else, one wanders

> among

> > > the disrelations between words and referents, feeling happy

that

> > one

> > > is lucky being a scatter-brain.

> > >

> > > I for one find that rather off-putting.

> > >

> > > Do your own thinking. But before that read up enough.

> > >

> > > Take care.

> > >

> > > RK

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " vinita

kumar "

> > > <shankar_mamta@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Arkay,

> > > >

> > > > " Just that you got a little too blithe (I don't mean you

> remain

> > > dour

> > > > in the company of your " wonderful friends " here). "

> > > >

> > > > I think all of us, and u too, would prefer to be blithe

rather

> > > that

> > > > dour....In any case what makes us blithe and what makes us

> dour

> > > is

> > > > illusory.....so no harm in having illusions that make us

> happy.

> > As

> > > > regards " too " blithe....its just a matter of how much energy

> we

> > > can

> > > > crank up within ourselves to be whatever we are, isn't it???

> > > >

> > > > " Astrology could be vanished if we were all perfect beings,

> the

> > > world

> > > > were not a vale of soul-making " .

> > > >

> > > > But dear, the world is a " vale of soul-making " ....why else

are

> > we

> > > > here if not to evolve??? ISn't that a very natural thing to

> > > happen???

> > > >

> > > > Nalini writes:

> > > >

> > > > " ...if certain experiences have been given to you it is

> because

> > you

> > > > have wished it so. It is never a reward and punishment

theory

> as

> > > for

> > > > as the Divine is considered. All deeds are but the wishes of

> the

> > > > inner I. It becomes so much more easier that all the ills are

> > > > foisted on us by *ourselves*... "

> > > >

> > > > Yesterday, I was savouring (read that as licking and lapping

> up)

> > > > OSho's write-up posted by Shreenadh. It mentions something

> about

> > > we

> > > > choosing the constellations we are born under...so that we

can

> > > > experience what we have to experience. By the same logic we

> may

> > > > choose the prarabhda we have to live thru in this life,

don't

> u

> > > > think???

> > > >

> > > > Yes, would love to hear more....

> > > >

> > > > Love,

> > > >

> > > > Vinita

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " arkaydash "

> > > > <arkaydash@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > , " vinita

> > kumar "

> > > > > <shankar_mamta@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > Dear Vinita,

> > > > > Just that you got a little too blithe (I don't mean you

> remain

> > > > dour

> > > > > in the company of your " wonderful friends " here). And I

> write.

> > > > >

> > > > > Astrology could be vanished if we were all perfect beings,

> the

> > > > world

> > > > > were not a vale of soul-making.

> > > > >

> > > > > 'Is' and 'will become' are two different visages Time

wears.

> > The

> > > > > second premise puts to sleep the eager maker of our little

> > > worlds

> > > > > that we are. His Will is verbally eloquent. Is rarely

> > submitted

> > > > to.

> > > > > {Is not easy to access. Not easy in that we are lost in

> > surround

> > > > > sounds.} Few gracefully accept. They are contented souls,

or

> > > more

> > > > > perhaps. The rest make up the big world that is not all

> > > beatitude.

> > > > > And they must catch up too - making use of astrology

> variously

> > > as

> > > > > superstitious crutch, as ambitious spurs, or as oars.

Which

> > > > > depends.

> > > > >

> > > > > There is something comparable, something that swishes away

> > what

> > > is

> > > > > substantive to what we are trying to understand here,

> > something

> > > > that

> > > > > creates a lucid void when Nalini writes

> > > > >

> > > > > ...if certain experiences have been given to you it is

> because

> > > you

> > > > > have wished it so. It is never a reward and punishment

> theory

> > as

> > > > for

> > > > > as the Divine is considered. All deeds are but the wishes

of

> > the

> > > > > inner I. It becomes so much more easier that all the ills

> are

> > > > > foisted on us by *ourselves*...

> > > > >

> > > > > particularly when she says ills are foisted by ourselves.

> Such

> > > > > ownership takes it to the other simplistic extreme.

> > > > >

> > > > > More later. Tell me if you (both) get the drift.

> > > > >

> > > > > RK

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Shreenadh, all!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I was just thinking that if we keep in mind the

following

> > two

> > > > > things:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Whatever is now will never remain the same

> > > > > > 2. Whatever happens next, is for my own good, let me

> accept

> > it

> > > > > > completely ( " Thy will be done " )

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the relevance of astrology disappears completely.

> > VAMOOOOOZ!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Or is there there something more to the study of this

> > subject

> > > > that

> > > > > i

> > > > > > am missing???

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Would love to hear from all of u.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Luv,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Vinita

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Vinita,

 

I know you are awed now that you say so

Moon swings, not Mercury

But you never know.

I like your twitter

But it must be starry.

 

RK

 

 

, " vinita kumar "

<shankar_mamta wrote:

>

> Dear RK ji,

>

> " We are serious here; we are deep-blue cerebral "

>

> Now i am totally awed.

>

> I think i am the one who should remain " mauna " for weeks together

or

> go to some other nursery swings.

>

> BTW, Mercury has swung retro, i think!

>

> Love,

> Vinita

>

> , " arkaydash "

> <arkaydash@> wrote:

> >

> > Ms MamataShankar,

> >

> > If you think you got the drift, will you be in the lucky league

or

> > prefer to be workful instead of larking about on forum(s)?

> >

> > We are serious here; we are deep-blue cerebral, I can assure

you.

> > Make no mistake about the fun quotient available here. It can

far

> > exceed what you can expect. Can you hold it? I can wager

anything

> > (at least a week's mauna) if you can beat, well, me for instance

> > with your expectation. You can't just handle it if humour from

is

> > unleashed.

> >

> > We on the honey-dew have fed

> > And drunk the power of Mercury

> >

> >

> > And that's a word of caution. (Oh, did I happen to crank out a

> > nursery rhyme?)

> >

> > Love (You've won it)

> > RK

> >

> >

> > , " vinita kumar "

> > <shankar_mamta@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear RK ji,

> > >

> > > " Engage in something that is aligned to quality ratiocination

and

> > > that adds to forum members' understanding. Else, one wanders

> among

> > > the disrelations between words and referents, feeling happy

that

> > one

> > > is lucky being a scatter-brain. "

> > >

> > > I read these words with rapt attention and found that i did

not

> > > understand all the words there. :;)

> > >

> > > But i think what i got was the general drift of what u were

> trying

> > > to say.

> > >

> > > For me participating on forums is more of a fun thing.

Actually,

> > > learning can be fun if we are not too serious.

> > >

> > > I have learnt a lot from this forum - which is full of learned

> > > members.

> > >

> > > I am going to post two messages, (in response to your

> > > exhortations ) to " read " more before posting stuff on this

> forum.

> > >

> > > But after this i hope u will allow me to post at least 10 " non-

> > > serious " messages which do not involve reading too much!!!???

> > >

> > > :)

> > >

> > > Love,

> > >

> > > Vinita

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " arkaydash "

> > > <arkaydash@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vinita,

> > > > Sorry to point out you have glossed over what I try to tell

> you

> > > and

> > > > gone on being, well, word-happy.

> > > >

> > > > I wrote:

> > > >

> > > > " Few gracefully accept. They are contented souls, or more

> > > > perhaps. The rest make up the big world that is not all

> > beatitude.

> > > >

> > > > When I said they (the rest) cannot accept, could I have

meant

> > they

> > > > crank up within themselves oodles of energy, cast about and

> > mouth

> > > > inanities, and get fresh and what have you?

> > > >

> > > > Because they cannot accept, they won't pause to join words

to

> > > their

> > > > referents. I wrote the following in response to the two

points

> > you

> > > > make in your Revisiting Astrology posting, believing you

were

> > > > earnest.

> > > >

> > > > " > > And they must catch up too - making use of astrology

> > > variously

> > > > as

> > > > > > superstitious crutch, as ambitious spurs, or as oars.

> Which

> > > > > > depends.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There is something comparable, something that swishes

away

> > > what

> > > > is

> > > > > > substantive to what we are trying to understand here... "

> > > >

> > > > Engage in something that is aligned to quality ratiocination

> and

> > > > that adds to forum members' understanding. Else, one wanders

> > among

> > > > the disrelations between words and referents, feeling happy

> that

> > > one

> > > > is lucky being a scatter-brain.

> > > >

> > > > I for one find that rather off-putting.

> > > >

> > > > Do your own thinking. But before that read up enough.

> > > >

> > > > Take care.

> > > >

> > > > RK

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " vinita

> kumar "

> > > > <shankar_mamta@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Arkay,

> > > > >

> > > > > " Just that you got a little too blithe (I don't mean you

> > remain

> > > > dour

> > > > > in the company of your " wonderful friends " here). "

> > > > >

> > > > > I think all of us, and u too, would prefer to be blithe

> rather

> > > > that

> > > > > dour....In any case what makes us blithe and what makes us

> > dour

> > > > is

> > > > > illusory.....so no harm in having illusions that make us

> > happy.

> > > As

> > > > > regards " too " blithe....its just a matter of how much

energy

> > we

> > > > can

> > > > > crank up within ourselves to be whatever we are, isn't

it???

> > > > >

> > > > > " Astrology could be vanished if we were all perfect

beings,

> > the

> > > > world

> > > > > were not a vale of soul-making " .

> > > > >

> > > > > But dear, the world is a " vale of soul-making " ....why else

> are

> > > we

> > > > > here if not to evolve??? ISn't that a very natural thing

to

> > > > happen???

> > > > >

> > > > > Nalini writes:

> > > > >

> > > > > " ...if certain experiences have been given to you it is

> > because

> > > you

> > > > > have wished it so. It is never a reward and punishment

> theory

> > as

> > > > for

> > > > > as the Divine is considered. All deeds are but the wishes

of

> > the

> > > > > inner I. It becomes so much more easier that all the ills

are

> > > > > foisted on us by *ourselves*... "

> > > > >

> > > > > Yesterday, I was savouring (read that as licking and

lapping

> > up)

> > > > > OSho's write-up posted by Shreenadh. It mentions something

> > about

> > > > we

> > > > > choosing the constellations we are born under...so that we

> can

> > > > > experience what we have to experience. By the same logic

we

> > may

> > > > > choose the prarabhda we have to live thru in this life,

> don't

> > u

> > > > > think???

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, would love to hear more....

> > > > >

> > > > > Love,

> > > > >

> > > > > Vinita

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

, " arkaydash "

> > > > > <arkaydash@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " vinita

> > > kumar "

> > > > > > <shankar_mamta@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Vinita,

> > > > > > Just that you got a little too blithe (I don't mean you

> > remain

> > > > > dour

> > > > > > in the company of your " wonderful friends " here). And I

> > write.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Astrology could be vanished if we were all perfect

beings,

> > the

> > > > > world

> > > > > > were not a vale of soul-making.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 'Is' and 'will become' are two different visages Time

> wears.

> > > The

> > > > > > second premise puts to sleep the eager maker of our

little

> > > > worlds

> > > > > > that we are. His Will is verbally eloquent. Is rarely

> > > submitted

> > > > > to.

> > > > > > {Is not easy to access. Not easy in that we are lost in

> > > surround

> > > > > > sounds.} Few gracefully accept. They are contented

souls,

> or

> > > > more

> > > > > > perhaps. The rest make up the big world that is not all

> > > > beatitude.

> > > > > > And they must catch up too - making use of astrology

> > variously

> > > > as

> > > > > > superstitious crutch, as ambitious spurs, or as oars.

> Which

> > > > > > depends.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There is something comparable, something that swishes

away

> > > what

> > > > is

> > > > > > substantive to what we are trying to understand here,

> > > something

> > > > > that

> > > > > > creates a lucid void when Nalini writes

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ...if certain experiences have been given to you it is

> > because

> > > > you

> > > > > > have wished it so. It is never a reward and punishment

> > theory

> > > as

> > > > > for

> > > > > > as the Divine is considered. All deeds are but the

wishes

> of

> > > the

> > > > > > inner I. It becomes so much more easier that all the

ills

> > are

> > > > > > foisted on us by *ourselves*...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > particularly when she says ills are foisted by

ourselves.

> > Such

> > > > > > ownership takes it to the other simplistic extreme.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > More later. Tell me if you (both) get the drift.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RK

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Shreenadh, all!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I was just thinking that if we keep in mind the

> following

> > > two

> > > > > > things:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Whatever is now will never remain the same

> > > > > > > 2. Whatever happens next, is for my own good, let me

> > accept

> > > it

> > > > > > > completely ( " Thy will be done " )

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the relevance of astrology disappears completely.

> > > VAMOOOOOZ!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Or is there there something more to the study of this

> > > subject

> > > > > that

> > > > > > i

> > > > > > > am missing???

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Would love to hear from all of u.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Luv,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Vinita

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>