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, " vinita kumar "

<shankar_mamta wrote:

>

Dear Vinita,

Just that you got a little too blithe (I don't mean you remain dour

in the company of your " wonderful friends " here). And I write.

 

Astrology could be vanished if we were all perfect beings, the world

were not a vale of soul-making.

 

'Is' and 'will become' are two different visages Time wears. The

second premise puts to sleep the eager maker of our little worlds

that we are. His Will is verbally eloquent. Is rarely submitted to.

{Is not easy to access. Not easy in that we are lost in surround

sounds.} Few gracefully accept. They are contented souls, or more

perhaps. The rest make up the big world that is not all beatitude.

And they must catch up too - making use of astrology variously as

superstitious crutch, as ambitious spurs, or as oars. Which

depends.

 

There is something comparable, something that swishes away what is

substantive to what we are trying to understand here, something that

creates a lucid void when Nalini writes

 

....if certain experiences have been given to you it is because you

have wished it so. It is never a reward and punishment theory as for

as the Divine is considered. All deeds are but the wishes of the

inner I. It becomes so much more easier that all the ills are

foisted on us by *ourselves*...

 

particularly when she says ills are foisted by ourselves. Such

ownership takes it to the other simplistic extreme.

 

More later. Tell me if you (both) get the drift.

 

RK

 

 

 

 

 

> Dear Shreenadh, all!

>

> I was just thinking that if we keep in mind the following two

things:

>

> 1. Whatever is now will never remain the same

> 2. Whatever happens next, is for my own good, let me accept it

> completely ( " Thy will be done " )

>

> the relevance of astrology disappears completely. VAMOOOOOZ! :)

>

> Or is there there something more to the study of this subject that

i

> am missing??? :)

>

> Would love to hear from all of u.

>

> Luv,

>

> Vinita

>

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Dear Arkay,

 

" Just that you got a little too blithe (I don't mean you remain dour

in the company of your " wonderful friends " here). "

 

I think all of us, and u too, would prefer to be blithe rather that

dour....In any case what makes us blithe and what makes us dour is

illusory.....so no harm in having illusions that make us happy. As

regards " too " blithe....its just a matter of how much energy we can

crank up within ourselves to be whatever we are, isn't it???

 

" Astrology could be vanished if we were all perfect beings, the world

were not a vale of soul-making " .

 

But dear, the world is a " vale of soul-making " ....why else are we

here if not to evolve??? ISn't that a very natural thing to happen???

 

Nalini writes:

 

" ...if certain experiences have been given to you it is because you

have wished it so. It is never a reward and punishment theory as for

as the Divine is considered. All deeds are but the wishes of the

inner I. It becomes so much more easier that all the ills are

foisted on us by *ourselves*... "

 

Yesterday, I was savouring (read that as licking and lapping up)

OSho's write-up posted by Shreenadh. It mentions something about we

choosing the constellations we are born under...so that we can

experience what we have to experience. By the same logic we may

choose the prarabhda we have to live thru in this life, don't u

think???

 

Yes, would love to hear more....

 

Love,

 

Vinita

 

 

, " arkaydash "

<arkaydash wrote:

>

> , " vinita kumar "

> <shankar_mamta@> wrote:

> >

> Dear Vinita,

> Just that you got a little too blithe (I don't mean you remain

dour

> in the company of your " wonderful friends " here). And I write.

>

> Astrology could be vanished if we were all perfect beings, the

world

> were not a vale of soul-making.

>

> 'Is' and 'will become' are two different visages Time wears. The

> second premise puts to sleep the eager maker of our little worlds

> that we are. His Will is verbally eloquent. Is rarely submitted

to.

> {Is not easy to access. Not easy in that we are lost in surround

> sounds.} Few gracefully accept. They are contented souls, or more

> perhaps. The rest make up the big world that is not all beatitude.

> And they must catch up too - making use of astrology variously as

> superstitious crutch, as ambitious spurs, or as oars. Which

> depends.

>

> There is something comparable, something that swishes away what is

> substantive to what we are trying to understand here, something

that

> creates a lucid void when Nalini writes

>

> ...if certain experiences have been given to you it is because you

> have wished it so. It is never a reward and punishment theory as

for

> as the Divine is considered. All deeds are but the wishes of the

> inner I. It becomes so much more easier that all the ills are

> foisted on us by *ourselves*...

>

> particularly when she says ills are foisted by ourselves. Such

> ownership takes it to the other simplistic extreme.

>

> More later. Tell me if you (both) get the drift.

>

> RK

>

>

>

>

>

> > Dear Shreenadh, all!

> >

> > I was just thinking that if we keep in mind the following two

> things:

> >

> > 1. Whatever is now will never remain the same

> > 2. Whatever happens next, is for my own good, let me accept it

> > completely ( " Thy will be done " )

> >

> > the relevance of astrology disappears completely. VAMOOOOOZ! :)

> >

> > Or is there there something more to the study of this subject

that

> i

> > am missing??? :)

> >

> > Would love to hear from all of u.

> >

> > Luv,

> >

> > Vinita

> >

>

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