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Dear all,

 

There are certain queries i would like to pose to the esteemed

members of this forum to help me understand the influence of retro

planets.

 

1. How does the effect of retro planets differ from direct planets?

2. What is the implication of having many retro planets in a chart?

3. I believe there are different stages thru which a retro planet

goes thru....how can these different stages be assessed from JHL and

is there any significant difference in impact from one stage to

another?

4. Should an exalted retro planet be treated as debilitated?

5. If so, what is the impact of a debilitated malefic planet in an

upachaya house vis-a-vis a direct malefic planet? e.g. retro Saturn

in 6th House for Taurus Lagna vis-a-vis direct Saturn.

 

Thanking u in advance,

 

Best regards,

 

Vinita

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Vinitaji,

You can one more point namely Exalted retro planets in Vargottama .... does this canecl the dedilitation (exalted retro planets are considered debilitated). Incidentally I have GURU exalted and retro but in Vargottama.

 

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Sunday, May 28, 2006 7:15 PM

Retro planets

Dear all,There are certain queries i would like to pose to the esteemed members of this forum to help me understand the influence of retro planets.1. How does the effect of retro planets differ from direct planets?2. What is the implication of having many retro planets in a chart?3. I believe there are different stages thru which a retro planet goes thru....how can these different stages be assessed from JHL and is there any significant difference in impact from one stage to another?4. Should an exalted retro planet be treated as debilitated?5. If so, what is the impact of a debilitated malefic planet in an upachaya house vis-a-vis a direct malefic planet? e.g. retro Saturn in 6th House for Taurus Lagna vis-a-vis direct Saturn.Thanking u in advance,Best regards,Vinita

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Sorry - no answer from me, just more questions. I have read that benefic retro

planets gain strength becoming more benefic, and malific ones become weak thus

becoming more malific. Others just say that retro planets delay things - it

will yield results at a later age. Please any more insights into retrograde

planets? I'm particularly interested in Jupiter and Venus.

 

theblisswithin <theblisswithin wrote: dear all,

Would a mars retro native ( in aries ) be less or more angry than a

direct mars?

 

Thanks

Shiva

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Shiva and Pada,

 

Retro Mars in Ar has martial energy introverted, docile on the outside, rage

inside- can burst at one point seemingly for no reasons.

 

Retro planets: in general, it's not beneficial to have benefics retro, house

significations as well as karaka significations are likely to suffer. However,

one should never make any judgement about retro pl. either benefic or malefic,

before determining if they are functional benefics or malefics.

Karaka significations will suffer either way, though.

 

Regards,

Anna

 

Pada Sevanam <carana_padma wrote:

Sorry - no answer from me, just more questions. I have read that

benefic retro planets gain strength becoming more benefic, and malific ones

become weak thus becoming more malific. Others just say that retro planets delay

things - it will yield results at a later age. Please any more insights into

retrograde planets? I'm particularly interested in Jupiter and Venus.

 

theblisswithin <theblisswithin wrote: dear all,

Would a mars retro native ( in aries ) be less or more angry than a

direct mars?

 

Thanks

Shiva

 

 

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Dear Anna,

 

What's your analysis on below?

 

Mars Acendant. Saturn becomes Functional benefic.

 

Mars is placed in 9th House (Sagg) aspected by Saturn from 3rd house

and Satrun is Retro.

 

What are the general effcets on the native? and results? career per se?

 

Appreciate your

 

Chann

 

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " A.R. " <bonamente108 wrote:

>

> Dear Shiva and Pada,

>

> Retro Mars in Ar has martial energy introverted, docile on the

outside, rage inside- can burst at one point seemingly for no reasons.

>

> Retro planets: in general, it's not beneficial to have benefics

retro, house significations as well as karaka significations are

likely to suffer. However, one should never make any judgement about

retro pl. either benefic or malefic, before determining if they are

functional benefics or malefics.

> Karaka significations will suffer either way, though.

>

> Regards,

> Anna

>

> Pada Sevanam <carana_padma wrote:

> Sorry - no answer from me, just more questions. I have

read that benefic retro planets gain strength becoming more benefic,

and malific ones become weak thus becoming more malific. Others just

say that retro planets delay things - it will yield results at a later

age. Please any more insights into retrograde planets? I'm

particularly interested in Jupiter and Venus.

>

> theblisswithin <theblisswithin wrote: dear all,

> Would a mars retro native ( in aries ) be less or more angry than a

> direct mars?

>

> Thanks

> Shiva

>

>

> Be a PS3 game guru.

> Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at

Games.

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Dear Chann,

 

How does 10/11 lord Saturn become F/B?

 

As per Parashara (BPHS Ch.34)

14. ANGULAR LORDSHIP:

*It has been said that a malefic owning an angle will become auspicious

which is true only when it simultaneously lords over a trine and not by

merely owning an angle.*

 

Saturn is classed as a F/B only if he owns 4/5 or 9/10 (Libra and Taurus

lagna respectively) otherwise he is a F/M

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

___

 

 

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" Chandu2chill " <nanna_id2006

<jyotish-vidya >

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:31 PM

Re: retro planets

 

 

 

Dear Anna,

 

What's your analysis on below?

 

Mars Acendant. Saturn becomes Functional benefic.

 

Mars is placed in 9th House (Sagg) aspected by Saturn from 3rd house

and Satrun is Retro.

 

What are the general effcets on the native? and results? career per se?

 

Appreciate your

 

Chann

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Respected Madam,

 

As you know i am novice in this great Astro knowledge ;-)I was also

of the same opinion as you mentioned below. But when i was reading

Impact of Acendtants in some site i found this.

 

" " Apart from Rahu and Ketu, Mercury also becomes a functional malefic

planet. Mars, the Moon, the Sun, Venus, Jupiter and Saturn are

functional benefic planets for Arians. " "

 

Here's the link: http://www.yournetastrologer.com/theory%5Ct20.htm

 

But still would like to learn and know from you. What if the Kendra

Lord is Natural Malific? Classic example is my chart.

 

Sun/Moon/Mercury in 10th House (Mercury retro)

Kendra Lord - Saturn Placed in 3rd House (Retro)

Lagna Lord Mars in 9th house

 

What and how should i analyse this?

 

Is Mars is aspected by Saturn? OR it's other way round? OR it's one

and the same? what are the general results? of this particuler aspect

+ve or negative? Considering the Lagna Lord and the Kendra Lord

aspecting each other.

 

what i learned is Lord of 4th and 5th House conjuct in 10th house

forms a " Raja Yoga "

 

And Sun Mercury Conjuction forms " Bhudatiya Yoga "

 

Both are not good or not so effective in giving good RESULTS to the

native?

 

(My personal meaning (Bottomline) of RESULTS = Heappiness, Wealth

Success in all walks of life and a hormonious married life)

 

Reagrds

 

Chann

 

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Chann,

>

> How does 10/11 lord Saturn become F/B?

>

> As per Parashara (BPHS Ch.34)

> 14. ANGULAR LORDSHIP:

> *It has been said that a malefic owning an angle will become auspicious

> which is true only when it simultaneously lords over a trine and not by

> merely owning an angle.*

>

> Saturn is classed as a F/B only if he owns 4/5 or 9/10 (Libra and

Taurus

> lagna respectively) otherwise he is a F/M

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> jyotish-vidya

> ___

>

>

> -

> " Chandu2chill " <nanna_id2006

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:31 PM

> Re: retro planets

>

>

>

> Dear Anna,

>

> What's your analysis on below?

>

> Mars Acendant. Saturn becomes Functional benefic.

>

> Mars is placed in 9th House (Sagg) aspected by Saturn from 3rd house

> and Satrun is Retro.

>

> What are the general effcets on the native? and results? career per se?

>

> Appreciate your

>

> Chann

>

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Dear Chann,

 

The site you refer to belongs to V.K. Choudhry (founder of Systems

Approach). This (SA) has its own set of rules which deviate significantly

from the basic principles of Parashara.

 

As per the rules of Parashara, SU, MO, MA, JU are functional benefics for

Aries whilst ME, VE, SA are functional malefics.

 

NB: The Nodes are not accorded rulership per se in this scheme (except for

their secondary co-ownership with Saturn & Mars signs, Aquarius and

Scorpio.)

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

___

 

 

-

" Chandu2chill " <nanna_id2006

<jyotish-vidya >

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:40 PM

Re: retro planets

 

 

Respected Madam,

 

As you know i am novice in this great Astro knowledge ;-)I was also

of the same opinion as you mentioned below. But when i was reading

Impact of Acendtants in some site i found this.

 

" " Apart from Rahu and Ketu, Mercury also becomes a functional malefic

planet. Mars, the Moon, the Sun, Venus, Jupiter and Saturn are

functional benefic planets for Arians. " "

 

Here's the link: http://www.yournetastrologer.com/theory%5Ct20.htm

 

But still would like to learn and know from you. What if the Kendra

Lord is Natural Malific? Classic example is my chart.

 

Sun/Moon/Mercury in 10th House (Mercury retro)

Kendra Lord - Saturn Placed in 3rd House (Retro)

Lagna Lord Mars in 9th house

 

What and how should i analyse this?

 

Is Mars is aspected by Saturn? OR it's other way round? OR it's one

and the same? what are the general results? of this particuler aspect

+ve or negative? Considering the Lagna Lord and the Kendra Lord

aspecting each other.

 

what i learned is Lord of 4th and 5th House conjuct in 10th house

forms a " Raja Yoga "

 

And Sun Mercury Conjuction forms " Bhudatiya Yoga "

 

Both are not good or not so effective in giving good RESULTS to the

native?

 

(My personal meaning (Bottomline) of RESULTS = Heappiness, Wealth

Success in all walks of life and a hormonious married life)

 

Reagrds

 

Chann

 

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Chann,

>

> How does 10/11 lord Saturn become F/B?

>

> As per Parashara (BPHS Ch.34)

> 14. ANGULAR LORDSHIP:

> *It has been said that a malefic owning an angle will become auspicious

> which is true only when it simultaneously lords over a trine and not by

> merely owning an angle.*

>

> Saturn is classed as a F/B only if he owns 4/5 or 9/10 (Libra and

Taurus

> lagna respectively) otherwise he is a F/M

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> jyotish-vidya

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Dear Mrs.Wendy,

 

Ha Ha.

Mr.Chandu Chill's chart is a classic

example for all the combinations. He is

really a master in bringing out all the

combinations available in the jyotish

books and relate them to his own chart,

yet calls himself a novice. Really

humble. But a humorous gentleman it

seems. When he mentioned

that his chart is a classic example,

it bought a good laugh and cleared

my moods for the present. I hope

he continues coming here again

and again. Makes the atmosphere

pleasant.

 

sincerely Yours,

Bhaskar.

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Chann,

>

> The site you refer to belongs to V.K. Choudhry (founder of Systems

> Approach). This (SA) has its own set of rules which deviate

significantly

> from the basic principles of Parashara.

>

> As per the rules of Parashara, SU, MO, MA, JU are functional

benefics for

> Aries whilst ME, VE, SA are functional malefics.

>

> NB: The Nodes are not accorded rulership per se in this scheme

(except for

> their secondary co-ownership with Saturn & Mars signs, Aquarius and

> Scorpio.)

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> jyotish-vidya

> ___

>

>

> -

> " Chandu2chill " <nanna_id2006

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:40 PM

> Re: retro planets

>

>

> Respected Madam,

>

> As you know i am novice in this great Astro knowledge ;-)I was also

> of the same opinion as you mentioned below. But when i was reading

> Impact of Acendtants in some site i found this.

>

> " " Apart from Rahu and Ketu, Mercury also becomes a functional

malefic

> planet. Mars, the Moon, the Sun, Venus, Jupiter and Saturn are

> functional benefic planets for Arians. " "

>

> Here's the link: http://www.yournetastrologer.com/theory%5Ct20.htm

>

> But still would like to learn and know from you. What if the Kendra

> Lord is Natural Malific? Classic example is my chart.

>

> Sun/Moon/Mercury in 10th House (Mercury retro)

> Kendra Lord - Saturn Placed in 3rd House (Retro)

> Lagna Lord Mars in 9th house

>

> What and how should i analyse this?

>

> Is Mars is aspected by Saturn? OR it's other way round? OR it's one

> and the same? what are the general results? of this particuler

aspect

> +ve or negative? Considering the Lagna Lord and the Kendra Lord

> aspecting each other.

>

> what i learned is Lord of 4th and 5th House conjuct in 10th house

> forms a " Raja Yoga "

>

> And Sun Mercury Conjuction forms " Bhudatiya Yoga "

>

> Both are not good or not so effective in giving good RESULTS to the

> native?

>

> (My personal meaning (Bottomline) of RESULTS = Heappiness, Wealth

> Success in all walks of life and a hormonious married life)

>

> Reagrds

>

> Chann

>

>

>

>

> jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chann,

> >

> > How does 10/11 lord Saturn become F/B?

> >

> > As per Parashara (BPHS Ch.34)

> > 14. ANGULAR LORDSHIP:

> > *It has been said that a malefic owning an angle will become

auspicious

> > which is true only when it simultaneously lords over a trine and

not by

> > merely owning an angle.*

> >

> > Saturn is classed as a F/B only if he owns 4/5 or 9/10 (Libra and

> Taurus

> > lagna respectively) otherwise he is a F/M

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> > Mrs. Wendy

> > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > jyotish-vidya

> > ___

>

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A clarification:

 

//NB: The Nodes are not accorded rulership per se in this scheme (except for

their secondary co-ownership with Saturn & Mars signs, Aquarius and

Scorpio.)//

 

The Nodes assume functional malefic/benefic status according to their

association.

_______________

 

-

" Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish

<jyotish-vidya >

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 6:16 PM

Re: Re: retro planets

 

 

Dear Chann,

 

The site you refer to belongs to V.K. Choudhry (founder of Systems

Approach). This (SA) has its own set of rules which deviate significantly

from the basic principles of Parashara.

 

As per the rules of Parashara, SU, MO, MA, JU are functional benefics for

Aries whilst ME, VE, SA are functional malefics.

 

NB: The Nodes are not accorded rulership per se in this scheme (except for

their secondary co-ownership with Saturn & Mars signs, Aquarius and

Scorpio.)

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

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Dear Madam,

 

Thank you so much for your clarifications i.e. diff btwn SA and

Parashara principles and approach.

 

It is really interesting to learn and

 

//As per the rules of Parashara, SU, MO, MA, JU are functional

benefics for Aries whilst ME, VE, SA are functional malefics.//

 

May i seek your further Inputs?

 

In chart, 2 F/Bs SU, MO in 10th house along with 1 F/M Mercury. and i

guess Mercury is CUMBUST and SU gets afflicted by this? Please do let

me know and what are the general effects? of this combination..

 

Again, one more interesting point!! F/B Guru is in 11th ALONG with

GRAND enmy SHUKRA!! that too in the house of GAINS!! I think this also

creates an YOGA called DWI-KALATRA YOGA is that true??

 

Only F/B Mars is placed in Friend's house 9th BUT see here he is

aspected by F/M Saturn

 

Honestly with all these combinations, to me my chart is Classic

Example of typical combinations BUT in practical life I was and is

very happy and go-lucky guy until i made a BIG mistake (Marriage)that

TURNED me to this Astrology. Still trying to learn.

 

Any inputs/insights on above chart/combination are welcome.

 

Regards

 

Chann

 

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Chann,

>

> The site you refer to belongs to V.K. Choudhry (founder of Systems

> Approach). This (SA) has its own set of rules which deviate

significantly

> from the basic principles of Parashara.

>

> As per the rules of Parashara, SU, MO, MA, JU are functional

benefics for

> Aries whilst ME, VE, SA are functional malefics.

>

> NB: The Nodes are not accorded rulership per se in this scheme

(except for

> their secondary co-ownership with Saturn & Mars signs, Aquarius and

> Scorpio.)

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> jyotish-vidya

> ___

>

>

> -

> " Chandu2chill " <nanna_id2006

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:40 PM

> Re: retro planets

>

>

> Respected Madam,

>

> As you know i am novice in this great Astro knowledge ;-)I was also

> of the same opinion as you mentioned below. But when i was reading

> Impact of Acendtants in some site i found this.

>

> " " Apart from Rahu and Ketu, Mercury also becomes a functional malefic

> planet. Mars, the Moon, the Sun, Venus, Jupiter and Saturn are

> functional benefic planets for Arians. " "

>

> Here's the link: http://www.yournetastrologer.com/theory%5Ct20.htm

>

> But still would like to learn and know from you. What if the Kendra

> Lord is Natural Malific? Classic example is my chart.

>

> Sun/Moon/Mercury in 10th House (Mercury retro)

> Kendra Lord - Saturn Placed in 3rd House (Retro)

> Lagna Lord Mars in 9th house

>

> What and how should i analyse this?

>

> Is Mars is aspected by Saturn? OR it's other way round? OR it's one

> and the same? what are the general results? of this particuler aspect

> +ve or negative? Considering the Lagna Lord and the Kendra Lord

> aspecting each other.

>

> what i learned is Lord of 4th and 5th House conjuct in 10th house

> forms a " Raja Yoga "

>

> And Sun Mercury Conjuction forms " Bhudatiya Yoga "

>

> Both are not good or not so effective in giving good RESULTS to the

> native?

>

> (My personal meaning (Bottomline) of RESULTS = Heappiness, Wealth

> Success in all walks of life and a hormonious married life)

>

> Reagrds

>

> Chann

>

>

>

>

> jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chann,

> >

> > How does 10/11 lord Saturn become F/B?

> >

> > As per Parashara (BPHS Ch.34)

> > 14. ANGULAR LORDSHIP:

> > *It has been said that a malefic owning an angle will become

auspicious

> > which is true only when it simultaneously lords over a trine and

not by

> > merely owning an angle.*

> >

> > Saturn is classed as a F/B only if he owns 4/5 or 9/10 (Libra and

> Taurus

> > lagna respectively) otherwise he is a F/M

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> > Mrs. Wendy

> > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > jyotish-vidya

> > ___

>

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Thanks Anna,

I have heard ( tropically) that after a certain number of years ( one

year for each day that the planet was retro for before birth) it goes

direct. Does that hold true vedically true too.

What would be a general advise/remedy for a native with this.

 

thanks

Shiva

 

jyotish-vidya , " A.R. " <bonamente108 wrote:

>

> Dear Shiva and Pada,

>

> Retro Mars in Ar has martial energy introverted, docile on the

outside, rage inside- can burst at one point seemingly for no reasons.

>

> Retro planets: in general, it's not beneficial to have benefics

retro, house significations as well as karaka significations are

likely to suffer. However, one should never make any judgement about

retro pl. either benefic or malefic, before determining if they are

functional benefics or malefics.

> Karaka significations will suffer either way, though.

>

> Regards,

> Anna

>

> Pada Sevanam <carana_padma wrote:

> Sorry - no answer from me, just more questions. I have

read that benefic retro planets gain strength becoming more benefic,

and malific ones become weak thus becoming more malific. Others just

say that retro planets delay things - it will yield results at a later

age. Please any more insights into retrograde planets? I'm

particularly interested in Jupiter and Venus.

>

> theblisswithin <theblisswithin wrote: dear all,

> Would a mars retro native ( in aries ) be less or more angry than a

> direct mars?

>

> Thanks

> Shiva

>

>

> Be a PS3 game guru.

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Dear Bhaskar Ji,

 

//When he mentioned that his chart is a classic example, it bought a

good laugh and cleared my moods for the present.//

 

It is nice to hear that, i made you to laugh when some people are

making you otherwise.(at sometime back):-):-)

 

Anyway i always beleive and wants to make my friends, loved ones, and

all people around me to laugh, and feel good with me. there were some

instences where my FRIENDS cancelled Parties/Pick nick trips due to my

absence so much they like my humorous nature/jokes.

 

But suddenly i lost everything like this Humor, confidence, etc due to

this marriage!!:-( non the less i am still Homorous BUT that real KICK

is not there as before!!:-(

 

Tho Aap kripiya karke, mere prashnoka ka samaadhan de ne ki kasht utayega?

 

Sun/Moon/Mercury in 10th House (Mercury retro) Kendra Lord - Saturn

Placed in 3rd House (Retro) Lagna Lord Mars in 9th house

 

What and how should i analyse this?

 

Is Mars is aspected by Saturn? OR it's other way round? OR it's one

and the same? what are the general results? of this particuler

aspect +ve or negative? Considering the Lagna Lord and the Kendra Lord

aspecting each other.

 

what i learned is Lord of 4th and 5th House conjuct in 10th house

forms a " Raja Yoga "

 

And Sun Mercury Conjuction forms " Bhudatiya Yoga "

Both are not good or not so effective in giving good RESULTS to the

native?

 

Here's One more Yoga i found in my chart!!

 

GURU+SHUKRA in 11th House house of GAINS in my chart is it called

DWI-KAALTRA Yoga? What are its results?

 

Best regards

 

Chann

 

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Mrs.Wendy,

>

> Ha Ha.

> Mr.Chandu Chill's chart is a classic

> example for all the combinations. He is

> really a master in bringing out all the

> combinations available in the jyotish

> books and relate them to his own chart,

> yet calls himself a novice. Really

> humble. But a humorous gentleman it

> seems. When he mentioned

> that his chart is a classic example,

> it bought a good laugh and cleared

> my moods for the present. I hope

> he continues coming here again

> and again. Makes the atmosphere

> pleasant.

>

> sincerely Yours,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

> jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chann,

> >

> > The site you refer to belongs to V.K. Choudhry (founder of Systems

> > Approach). This (SA) has its own set

 

of rules which deviate

> significantly

> > from the basic principles of Parashara.

> >

> > As per the rules of Parashara, SU, MO, MA, JU are functional

> benefics for

> > Aries whilst ME, VE, SA are functional malefics.

> >

> > NB: The Nodes are not accorded rulership per se in this scheme

> (except for

> > their secondary co-ownership with Saturn & Mars signs, Aquarius and

> > Scorpio.)

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> > Mrs. Wendy

> > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > jyotish-vidya

> > ___

> >

> >

> > -

> > " Chandu2chill " <nanna_id2006@>

> > <jyotish-vidya >

> > Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:40 PM

> > Re: retro planets

> >

> >

> > Respected Madam,

> >

> > As you know i am novice in this great Astro knowledge ;-)I was also

> > of the same opinion as you mentioned below. But when i was reading

> > Impact of Acendtants in some site i found this.

> >

> > " " Apart from Rahu and Ketu, Mercury also becomes a functional

> malefic

> > planet. Mars, the Moon, the Sun, Venus, Jupiter and Saturn are

> > functional benefic planets for Arians. " "

> >

> > Here's the link: http://www.yournetastrologer.com/theory%5Ct20.htm

> >

> > But still would like to learn and know from you. What if the Kendra

> > Lord is Natural Malific? Classic example is my chart.

> >

> > Sun/Moon/Mercury in 10th House (Mercury retro)

> > Kendra Lord - Saturn Placed in 3rd House (Retro)

> > Lagna Lord Mars in 9th house

> >

> > What and how should i analyse this?

> >

> > Is Mars is aspected by Saturn? OR it's other way round? OR it's one

> > and the same? what are the general results? of this particuler

> aspect

> > +ve or negative? Considering the Lagna Lord and the Kendra Lord

> > aspecting each other.

> >

> > what i learned is Lord of 4th and 5th House conjuct in 10th house

> > forms a " Raja Yoga "

> >

> > And Sun Mercury Conjuction forms " Bhudatiya Yoga "

> >

> > Both are not good or not so effective in giving good RESULTS to the

> > native?

> >

> > (My personal meaning (Bottomline) of RESULTS = Heappiness, Wealth

> > Success in all walks of life and a hormonious married life)

> >

> > Reagrds

> >

> > Chann

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish@>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Chann,

> > >

> > > How does 10/11 lord Saturn become F/B?

> > >

> > > As per Parashara (BPHS Ch.34)

> > > 14. ANGULAR LORDSHIP:

> > > *It has been said that a malefic owning an angle will become

> auspicious

> > > which is true only when it simultaneously lords over a trine and

> not by

> > > merely owning an angle.*

> > >

> > > Saturn is classed as a F/B only if he owns 4/5 or 9/10 (Libra and

> > Taurus

> > > lagna respectively) otherwise he is a F/M

> > >

> > > Best Wishes,

> > > Mrs. Wendy

> > > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > > jyotish-vidya

> > > ___

> >

>

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Dear Chandu Chill,

 

Hello. You are a smart player.

Somehow or the other, in whatever way you can, you

are always eager to receive further inputs

on your chart, and never tire of the same.

 

The problem with replying you, is that, You

will continue to keep on discussing on whatever

points are replied to you, and I am scared of that

because that would mean eventually, keeping

your Chart open for the next few days and devoting full

time to the same, and yet you may not be satisfied,

as I have seen from past experience considering

innumerous requests made by you to innumerous astrologers

and same number of replies being made to You.

 

And Yogas one can locate more than 200 in any chart.

You can keep on coming with them for next decade.

 

Therefore what should be my course of action, is

to be advised by You yourself ?

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " Chandu2chill "

<nanna_id2006 wrote:

>

>

> Dear Bhaskar Ji,

>

> //When he mentioned that his chart is a classic example, it bought

a

> good laugh and cleared my moods for the present.//

>

> It is nice to hear that, i made you to laugh when some people are

> making you otherwise.(at sometime back):-):-)

>

> Anyway i always beleive and wants to make my friends, loved ones,

and

> all people around me to laugh, and feel good with me. there were

some

> instences where my FRIENDS cancelled Parties/Pick nick trips due to

my

> absence so much they like my humorous nature/jokes.

>

> But suddenly i lost everything like this Humor, confidence, etc due

to

> this marriage!!:-( non the less i am still Homorous BUT that real

KICK

> is not there as before!!:-(

>

> Tho Aap kripiya karke, mere prashnoka ka samaadhan de ne ki kasht

utayega?

>

> Sun/Moon/Mercury in 10th House (Mercury retro) Kendra Lord - Saturn

> Placed in 3rd House (Retro) Lagna Lord Mars in 9th house

>

> What and how should i analyse this?

>

> Is Mars is aspected by Saturn? OR it's other way round? OR it's one

> and the same? what are the general results? of this particuler

> aspect +ve or negative? Considering the Lagna Lord and the Kendra

Lord

> aspecting each other.

>

> what i learned is Lord of 4th and 5th House conjuct in 10th house

> forms a " Raja Yoga "

>

> And Sun Mercury Conjuction forms " Bhudatiya Yoga "

> Both are not good or not so effective in giving good RESULTS to the

> native?

>

> Here's One more Yoga i found in my chart!!

>

> GURU+SHUKRA in 11th House house of GAINS in my chart is it called

> DWI-KAALTRA Yoga? What are its results?

>

> Best regards

>

> Chann

>

>

>

>

> jyotish-vidya , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mrs.Wendy,

> >

> > Ha Ha.

> > Mr.Chandu Chill's chart is a classic

> > example for all the combinations. He is

> > really a master in bringing out all the

> > combinations available in the jyotish

> > books and relate them to his own chart,

> > yet calls himself a novice. Really

> > humble. But a humorous gentleman it

> > seems. When he mentioned

> > that his chart is a classic example,

> > it bought a good laugh and cleared

> > my moods for the present. I hope

> > he continues coming here again

> > and again. Makes the atmosphere

> > pleasant.

> >

> > sincerely Yours,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> > jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Chann,

> > >

> > > The site you refer to belongs to V.K. Choudhry (founder of

Systems

> > > Approach). This (SA) has its own set

>

> of rules which deviate

> > significantly

> > > from the basic principles of Parashara.

> > >

> > > As per the rules of Parashara, SU, MO, MA, JU are functional

> > benefics for

> > > Aries whilst ME, VE, SA are functional malefics.

> > >

> > > NB: The Nodes are not accorded rulership per se in this scheme

> > (except for

> > > their secondary co-ownership with Saturn & Mars signs, Aquarius

and

> > > Scorpio.)

> > >

> > > Best Wishes,

> > > Mrs. Wendy

> > > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > > jyotish-vidya

> > > ___

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > " Chandu2chill " <nanna_id2006@>

> > > <jyotish-vidya >

> > > Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:40 PM

> > > Re: retro planets

> > >

> > >

> > > Respected Madam,

> > >

> > > As you know i am novice in this great Astro knowledge ;-)I was

also

> > > of the same opinion as you mentioned below. But when i was

reading

> > > Impact of Acendtants in some site i found this.

> > >

> > > " " Apart from Rahu and Ketu, Mercury also becomes a functional

> > malefic

> > > planet. Mars, the Moon, the Sun, Venus, Jupiter and Saturn are

> > > functional benefic planets for Arians. " "

> > >

> > > Here's the link: http://www.yournetastrologer.com/theory%

5Ct20.htm

> > >

> > > But still would like to learn and know from you. What if the

Kendra

> > > Lord is Natural Malific? Classic example is my chart.

> > >

> > > Sun/Moon/Mercury in 10th House (Mercury retro)

> > > Kendra Lord - Saturn Placed in 3rd House (Retro)

> > > Lagna Lord Mars in 9th house

> > >

> > > What and how should i analyse this?

> > >

> > > Is Mars is aspected by Saturn? OR it's other way round? OR it's

one

> > > and the same? what are the general results? of this particuler

> > aspect

> > > +ve or negative? Considering the Lagna Lord and the Kendra Lord

> > > aspecting each other.

> > >

> > > what i learned is Lord of 4th and 5th House conjuct in 10th

house

> > > forms a " Raja Yoga "

> > >

> > > And Sun Mercury Conjuction forms " Bhudatiya Yoga "

> > >

> > > Both are not good or not so effective in giving good RESULTS to

the

> > > native?

> > >

> > > (My personal meaning (Bottomline) of RESULTS = Heappiness,

Wealth

> > > Success in all walks of life and a hormonious married life)

> > >

> > > Reagrds

> > >

> > > Chann

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

<jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Chann,

> > > >

> > > > How does 10/11 lord Saturn become F/B?

> > > >

> > > > As per Parashara (BPHS Ch.34)

> > > > 14. ANGULAR LORDSHIP:

> > > > *It has been said that a malefic owning an angle will become

> > auspicious

> > > > which is true only when it simultaneously lords over a trine

and

> > not by

> > > > merely owning an angle.*

> > > >

> > > > Saturn is classed as a F/B only if he owns 4/5 or 9/10 (Libra

and

> > > Taurus

> > > > lagna respectively) otherwise he is a F/M

> > > >

> > > > Best Wishes,

> > > > Mrs. Wendy

> > > > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > > > jyotish-vidya

> > > > ___

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Shiva,

I'm not sure I understand your Qs- perhaps you are talking about progressions-

where one day symbolizes one year of life. In that case, whenever you see the

planet stationary: ready to go direct, or retro, you can be pretty sure that

year will be significant in the ways the planet represent. It's called 'change

of direction'. And I've seen 'change' many times, indeed.

Old books say that if a planet which was retro turns direct, energy of that

planet become more 'extroverted'.

Regards,

Anna

 

theblisswithin <theblisswithin wrote:

Thanks Anna,

I have heard ( tropically) that after a certain number of years ( one

year for each day that the planet was retro for before birth) it goes

direct. Does that hold true vedically true too.

What would be a general advise/remedy for a native with this.

 

thanks

Shiva

 

jyotish-vidya , " A.R. " <bonamente108 wrote:

>

> Dear Shiva and Pada,

>

> Retro Mars in Ar has martial energy introverted, docile on the

outside, rage inside- can burst at one point seemingly for no reasons.

>

> Retro planets: in general, it's not beneficial to have benefics

retro, house significations as well as karaka significations are

likely to suffer. However, one should never make any judgement about

retro pl. either benefic or malefic, before determining if they are

functional benefics or malefics.

> Karaka significations will suffer either way, though.

>

> Regards,

> Anna

>

> Pada Sevanam <carana_padma wrote:

> Sorry - no answer from me, just more questions. I have

read that benefic retro planets gain strength becoming more benefic,

and malific ones become weak thus becoming more malific. Others just

say that retro planets delay things - it will yield results at a later

age. Please any more insights into retrograde planets? I'm

particularly interested in Jupiter and Venus.

>

> theblisswithin <theblisswithin wrote: dear all,

> Would a mars retro native ( in aries ) be less or more angry than a

> direct mars?

>

> Thanks

> Shiva

>

>

> Be a PS3 game guru.

> Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at

Games.

>

>

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Dear Chandu,

Sorry I am lately to answer your questions, but I see you've received some

already.

As Wendy said Sa is malefic for Ar Lagna- and for Libra Lagna it is benefic:

the reason for that is saturn's moolatrikona of the fifth H. and for Ar-11th.

The later is

neither kendra nor kona,/upachaya/, therefore cannot be benefic.

 

Re your question if malefics are bad as lords of good, kendra houses- yes they

are. I fact it's beneficial to have malefic as lord of 'good' houses, because,

if well placed will be better able to protect the house it owns and its

signification. For the same reasons many consider benefic in good house

unfavourable.

Hope this helps,

Regards,

Anna

 

 

 

Dear Madam,

 

Thank you so much for your clarifications i.e. diff btwn SA and

Parashara principles and approach.

 

It is really interesting to learn and

 

//As per the rules of Parashara, SU, MO, MA, JU are functional

benefics for Aries whilst ME, VE, SA are functional malefics.//

 

May i seek your further Inputs?

 

In chart, 2 F/Bs SU, MO in 10th house along with 1 F/M Mercury. and i

guess Mercury is CUMBUST and SU gets afflicted by this? Please do let

me know and what are the general effects? of this combination..

 

Again, one more interesting point!! F/B Guru is in 11th ALONG with

GRAND enmy SHUKRA!! that too in the house of GAINS!! I think this also

creates an YOGA called DWI-KALATRA YOGA is that true??

 

Only F/B Mars is placed in Friend's house 9th BUT see here he is

aspected by F/M Saturn

 

Honestly with all these combinations, to me my chart is Classic

Example of typical combinations BUT in practical life I was and is

very happy and go-lucky guy until i made a BIG mistake (Marriage)that

TURNED me to this Astrology. Still trying to learn.

 

Any inputs/insights on above chart/combination are welcome.

 

Regards

 

Chann

 

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Chann,

>

> The site you refer to belongs to V.K. Choudhry (founder of Systems

> Approach). This (SA) has its own set of rules which deviate

significantly

> from the basic principles of Parashara.

>

> As per the rules of Parashara, SU, MO, MA, JU are functional

benefics for

> Aries whilst ME, VE, SA are functional malefics.

>

> NB: The Nodes are not accorded rulership per se in this scheme

(except for

> their secondary co-ownership with Saturn & Mars signs, Aquarius and

> Scorpio.)

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> jyotish-vidya

> ___

>

>

> -

> " Chandu2chill " <nanna_id2006

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:40 PM

> Re: retro planets

>

>

> Respected Madam,

>

> As you know i am novice in this great Astro knowledge ;-)I was also

> of the same opinion as you mentioned below. But when i was reading

> Impact of Acendtants in some site i found this.

>

> " " Apart from Rahu and Ketu, Mercury also becomes a functional malefic

> planet. Mars, the Moon, the Sun, Venus, Jupiter and Saturn are

> functional benefic planets for Arians. " "

>

> Here's the link: http://www.yournetastrologer.com/theory%5Ct20.htm

>

> But still would like to learn and know from you. What if the Kendra

> Lord is Natural Malific? Classic example is my chart.

>

> Sun/Moon/Mercury in 10th House (Mercury retro)

> Kendra Lord - Saturn Placed in 3rd House (Retro)

> Lagna Lord Mars in 9th house

>

> What and how should i analyse this?

>

> Is Mars is aspected by Saturn? OR it's other way round? OR it's one

> and the same? what are the general results? of this particuler aspect

> +ve or negative? Considering the Lagna Lord and the Kendra Lord

> aspecting each other.

>

> what i learned is Lord of 4th and 5th House conjuct in 10th house

> forms a " Raja Yoga "

>

> And Sun Mercury Conjuction forms " Bhudatiya Yoga "

>

> Both are not good or not so effective in giving good RESULTS to the

> native?

>

> (My personal meaning (Bottomline) of RESULTS = Heappiness, Wealth

> Success in all walks of life and a hormonious married life)

>

> Reagrds

>

> Chann

>

>

>

>

> jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chann,

> >

> > How does 10/11 lord Saturn become F/B?

> >

> > As per Parashara (BPHS Ch.34)

> > 14. ANGULAR LORDSHIP:

> > *It has been said that a malefic owning an angle will become

auspicious

> > which is true only when it simultaneously lords over a trine and

not by

> > merely owning an angle.*

> >

> > Saturn is classed as a F/B only if he owns 4/5 or 9/10 (Libra and

> Taurus

> > lagna respectively) otherwise he is a F/M

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> > Mrs. Wendy

> > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > jyotish-vidya

> > ___

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Respected Bhaskar Ji,

 

I totally agree with your below comments. and I am very forunate to

get kind advise/Readings from Sri. Ravidramani, Sri. Krishnamuthy,

Sri. K Gopu, Sri A.R. Sri. Mrutyunjay Ji and all who have indirectly

helped me to learn by answering my queries/post(s). I am thankful to

all and value their respective time.

 

 

//The problem with replying you, is that,You will continue to keep on

discussing on whatever points are replied to you, and I am scared of

that because that would mean eventually, keeping your Chart open for

the next few days and devoting full time to the same, and yet you may

not be satisfied, as I have seen from past experience considering

innumerous requests made by you to innumerous astrologers and same

number of replies being made to You.//

 

Sir, may i ask for your above allegation that " When and on my which

query/points YOU have replyed/provided your inputs? DIRECTLY?

 

Now you must be knowing why am i asking this.

 

//you are always eager to receive further inputs on your chart, and

never tire of the same.//

 

Sir, before i advise/guide somebody in my belief I MUST KNOW

myself/mychart first (FYI-My friends and others already started asking

me to analyse thier chart(s) For them i told EVEN IF YOU HAVE 20 YRS

OF EXP'ENCE IN ASTROLOGY, YOU ARE STILL A STUDENT. So i do agree with

you sir.

 

//And Yogas one can locate more than 200 in any chart. You can keep on

coming with them for next decade.//

 

you are 100% Correct Sir.

 

//Therefore what should be my course of action, is to be advised by

You yourself?//

 

Sir, i will leave it up-to you.

 

Regards

 

Chann

 

" When THINGS can not be ENDED Should be ENDURED " - Author " unknown " to

me:-)

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Chandu Chill,

>

> Hello. You are a smart player.

> Somehow or the other, in whatever way you can, you

> are always eager to receive further inputs

> on your chart, and never tire of the same.

>

> The problem with replying you, is that, You

> will continue to keep on discussing on whatever

> points are replied to you, and I am scared of that

> because that would mean eventually, keeping

> your Chart open for the next few days and devoting full

> time to the same, and yet you may not be satisfied,

> as I have seen from past experience considering

> innumerous requests made by you to innumerous astrologers

> and same number of replies being made to You.

>

> And Yogas one can locate more than 200 in any chart.

> You can keep on coming with them for next decade.

>

> Therefore what should be my course of action, is

> to be advised by You yourself ?

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> jyotish-vidya , " Chandu2chill "

> <nanna_id2006@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> >

> > //When he mentioned that his chart is a classic example, it bought

> a

> > good laugh and cleared my moods for the present.//

> >

> > It is nice to hear that, i made you to laugh when some people are

> > making you otherwise.(at sometime back):-):-)

> >

> > Anyway i always beleive and wants to make my friends, loved ones,

> and

> > all people around me to laugh, and feel good with me. there were

> some

> > instences where my FRIENDS cancelled Parties/Pick nick trips due to

> my

> > absence so much they like my humorous nature/jokes.

> >

> > But suddenly i lost everything like this Humor, confidence, etc due

> to

> > this marriage!!:-( non the less i am still Homorous BUT that real

> KICK

> > is not there as before!!:-(

> >

> > Tho Aap kripiya karke, mere prashnoka ka samaadhan de ne ki kasht

> utayega?

> >

> > Sun/Moon/Mercury in 10th House (Mercury retro) Kendra Lord - Saturn

> > Placed in 3rd House (Retro) Lagna Lord Mars in 9th house

> >

> > What and how should i analyse this?

> >

> > Is Mars is aspected by Saturn? OR it's other way round? OR it's one

> > and the same? what are the general results? of this particuler

> > aspect +ve or negative? Considering the Lagna Lord and the Kendra

> Lord

> > aspecting each other.

> >

> > what i learned is Lord of 4th and 5th House conjuct in 10th house

> > forms a " Raja Yoga "

> >

> > And Sun Mercury Conjuction forms " Bhudatiya Yoga "

> > Both are not good or not so effective in giving good RESULTS to the

> > native?

> >

> > Here's One more Yoga i found in my chart!!

> >

> > GURU+SHUKRA in 11th House house of GAINS in my chart is it called

> > DWI-KAALTRA Yoga? What are its results?

> >

> > Best regards

> >

> > Chann

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > jyotish-vidya , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mrs.Wendy,

> > >

> > > Ha Ha.

> > > Mr.Chandu Chill's chart is a classic

> > > example for all the combinations. He is

> > > really a master in bringing out all the

> > > combinations available in the jyotish

> > > books and relate them to his own chart,

> > > yet calls himself a novice. Really

> > > humble. But a humorous gentleman it

> > > seems. When he mentioned

> > > that his chart is a classic example,

> > > it bought a good laugh and cleared

> > > my moods for the present. I hope

> > > he continues coming here again

> > > and again. Makes the atmosphere

> > > pleasant.

> > >

> > > sincerely Yours,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > > jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Chann,

> > > >

> > > > The site you refer to belongs to V.K. Choudhry (founder of

> Systems

> > > > Approach). This (SA) has its own set

> >

> > of rules which deviate

> > > significantly

> > > > from the basic principles of Parashara.

> > > >

> > > > As per the rules of Parashara, SU, MO, MA, JU are functional

> > > benefics for

> > > > Aries whilst ME, VE, SA are functional malefics.

> > > >

> > > > NB: The Nodes are not accorded rulership per se in this scheme

> > > (except for

> > > > their secondary co-ownership with Saturn & Mars signs, Aquarius

> and

> > > > Scorpio.)

> > > >

> > > > Best Wishes,

> > > > Mrs. Wendy

> > > > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > > > jyotish-vidya

> > > > ___

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > " Chandu2chill " <nanna_id2006@>

> > > > <jyotish-vidya >

> > > > Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:40 PM

> > > > Re: retro planets

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Respected Madam,

> > > >

> > > > As you know i am novice in this great Astro knowledge ;-)I was

> also

> > > > of the same opinion as you mentioned below. But when i was

> reading

> > > > Impact of Acendtants in some site i found this.

> > > >

> > > > " " Apart from Rahu and Ketu, Mercury also becomes a functional

> > > malefic

> > > > planet. Mars, the Moon, the Sun, Venus, Jupiter and Saturn are

> > > > functional benefic planets for Arians. " "

> > > >

> > > > Here's the link: http://www.yournetastrologer.com/theory%

> 5Ct20.htm

> > > >

> > > > But still would like to learn and know from you. What if the

> Kendra

> > > > Lord is Natural Malific? Classic example is my chart.

> > > >

> > > > Sun/Moon/Mercury in 10th House (Mercury retro)

> > > > Kendra Lord - Saturn Placed in 3rd House (Retro)

> > > > Lagna Lord Mars in 9th house

> > > >

> > > > What and how should i analyse this?

> > > >

> > > > Is Mars is aspected by Saturn? OR it's other way round? OR it's

> one

> > > > and the same? what are the general results? of this particuler

> > > aspect

> > > > +ve or negative? Considering the Lagna Lord and the Kendra Lord

> > > > aspecting each other.

> > > >

> > > > what i learned is Lord of 4th and 5th House conjuct in 10th

> house

> > > > forms a " Raja Yoga "

> > > >

> > > > And Sun Mercury Conjuction forms " Bhudatiya Yoga "

> > > >

> > > > Both are not good or not so effective in giving good RESULTS to

> the

> > > > native?

> > > >

> > > > (My personal meaning (Bottomline) of RESULTS = Heappiness,

> Wealth

> > > > Success in all walks of life and a hormonious married life)

> > > >

> > > > Reagrds

> > > >

> > > > Chann

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

> <jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Chann,

> > > > >

> > > > > How does 10/11 lord Saturn become F/B?

> > > > >

> > > > > As per Parashara (BPHS Ch.34)

> > > > > 14. ANGULAR LORDSHIP:

> > > > > *It has been said that a malefic owning an angle will become

> > > auspicious

> > > > > which is true only when it simultaneously lords over a trine

> and

> > > not by

> > > > > merely owning an angle.*

> > > > >

> > > > > Saturn is classed as a F/B only if he owns 4/5 or 9/10 (Libra

> and

> > > > Taurus

> > > > > lagna respectively) otherwise he is a F/M

> > > > >

> > > > > Best Wishes,

> > > > > Mrs. Wendy

> > > > > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > > > > jyotish-vidya

> > > > > ___

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Thanks Annaji,

Yes, that was the question. Does jyotish also believe in progressions

and believes planets turn direct sometime in life. I believe my mars

went direct 36 days after birth. So it will 'become direct' after 36

years even vedically? Or is that a tropical interpretation. If you

could give references of some vedic based texts, that would be

awesome.

 

 

Regards

Shiva

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " A.R. " <bonamente108 wrote:

>

> Dear Shiva,

> I'm not sure I understand your Qs- perhaps you are talking about

progressions- where one day symbolizes one year of life. In that

case, whenever you see the planet stationary: ready to go direct, or

retro, you can be pretty sure that year will be significant in the

ways the planet represent. It's called 'change of direction'. And

I've seen 'change' many times, indeed.

> Old books say that if a planet which was retro turns direct,

energy of that planet become more 'extroverted'.

> Regards,

> Anna

>

> theblisswithin <theblisswithin wrote:

> Thanks Anna,

> I have heard ( tropically) that after a certain number of years (

one

> year for each day that the planet was retro for before birth) it

goes

> direct. Does that hold true vedically true too.

> What would be a general advise/remedy for a native with this.

>

> thanks

> Shiva

>

> jyotish-vidya , " A.R. " <bonamente108@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shiva and Pada,

> >

> > Retro Mars in Ar has martial energy introverted, docile on the

> outside, rage inside- can burst at one point seemingly for no

reasons.

> >

> > Retro planets: in general, it's not beneficial to have benefics

> retro, house significations as well as karaka significations are

> likely to suffer. However, one should never make any judgement about

> retro pl. either benefic or malefic, before determining if they are

> functional benefics or malefics.

> > Karaka significations will suffer either way, though.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Anna

> >

> > Pada Sevanam <carana_padma@> wrote:

> > Sorry - no answer from me, just more questions. I have

> read that benefic retro planets gain strength becoming more benefic,

> and malific ones become weak thus becoming more malific. Others just

> say that retro planets delay things - it will yield results at a

later

> age. Please any more insights into retrograde planets? I'm

> particularly interested in Jupiter and Venus.

> >

> > theblisswithin <theblisswithin@> wrote: dear all,

> > Would a mars retro native ( in aries ) be less or more angry than

a

> > direct mars?

> >

> > Thanks

> > Shiva

> >

> >

> > Be a PS3 game guru.

> > Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at

> Games.

> >

> >

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Dear Shiva,

 

Thanks for your nice words. Mars running direct makes 36th year important ,

perhaps cereer wise, or serious decision making, etc.

There is progression in vedic astrology as well- just to mention in tajaka,

vashapal, with munta progressing each year of life.

On the highest end of those who swear in progressions would be Richard Houck

who completely embraced ALL progressions word-for word from western astrology:

primary, secondary, tertiary. /My humble self, too/

 

I think that they DO work- hardly ever have I seen significant planet chanfing

direction, not corresponding with related events. Besides, that as well as

Mercury's change of direction is an easy way to get I client to trust you /get

impressed, LOL/- mercury changes direction /and signs/ so frequently that it's

perfect for timing events! Did I say they work?

 

Hope this helps,

Wishing you bliss within,

Sencerely,

Anna

 

 

heblisswithin <theblisswithin wrote:

Thanks Annaji,

Yes, that was the question. Does jyotish also believe in progressions

and believes planets turn direct sometime in life. I believe my mars

went direct 36 days after birth. So it will 'become direct' after 36

years even vedically? Or is that a tropical interpretation. If you

could give references of some vedic based texts, that would be

awesome.

 

Regards

Shiva

 

jyotish-vidya , " A.R. " <bonamente108 wrote:

>

> Dear Shiva,

> I'm not sure I understand your Qs- perhaps you are talking about

progressions- where one day symbolizes one year of life. In that

case, whenever you see the planet stationary: ready to go direct, or

retro, you can be pretty sure that year will be significant in the

ways the planet represent. It's called 'change of direction'. And

I've seen 'change' many times, indeed.

> Old books say that if a planet which was retro turns direct,

energy of that planet become more 'extroverted'.

> Regards,

> Anna

>

> theblisswithin <theblisswithin wrote:

> Thanks Anna,

> I have heard ( tropically) that after a certain number of years (

one

> year for each day that the planet was retro for before birth) it

goes

> direct. Does that hold true vedically true too.

> What would be a general advise/remedy for a native with this.

>

> thanks

> Shiva

>

> jyotish-vidya , " A.R. " <bonamente108@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shiva and Pada,

> >

> > Retro Mars in Ar has martial energy introverted, docile on the

> outside, rage inside- can burst at one point seemingly for no

reasons.

> >

> > Retro planets: in general, it's not beneficial to have benefics

> retro, house significations as well as karaka significations are

> likely to suffer. However, one should never make any judgement about

> retro pl. either benefic or malefic, before determining if they are

> functional benefics or malefics.

> > Karaka significations will suffer either way, though.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Anna

> >

> > Pada Sevanam <carana_padma@> wrote:

> > Sorry - no answer from me, just more questions. I have

> read that benefic retro planets gain strength becoming more benefic,

> and malific ones become weak thus becoming more malific. Others just

> say that retro planets delay things - it will yield results at a

later

> age. Please any more insights into retrograde planets? I'm

> particularly interested in Jupiter and Venus.

> >

> > theblisswithin <theblisswithin@> wrote: dear all,

> > Would a mars retro native ( in aries ) be less or more angry than

a

> > direct mars?

> >

> > Thanks

> > Shiva

> >

> >

> > Be a PS3 game guru.

> > Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at

> Games.

> >

> >

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