Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Dear Arjun ji, Once I mentioned that I will find(!) some logical explanation for special drishtis. Here is two of them. Not in detail, jus a small sample. Logic -1 -------- The special drishti is - " Charanabhi vridhita " , starts from legs! Now consider kala purusha, let us alote leg to Sa, 10 th house indicates middle portion of legs. let us make it short - Sa = 3rd and 10th = Throat (Sound - Air) and Legs. Ma = 4th and 8th = Chest and Sexual organs (Courage and Kama) Ju = 5th and 9th = Belly and Thigh So it is the Kalapurusha concept and the significance of body parts is there behind. Logic -2 (Not perfect) -------- The special drishti is - " Charanabhi vridhita " , one by fourth! 12/4 = 3. Meaning it increase by 3 signs in the order " Ravija Amaredhya Rudira pare cha " (Varaha hora), i.e Sa, Ju, Ma, others. Count 3 from Lagna = 3rd hous = Sa. Count 3 from 3rd house = 5th house = ju Count 3 from 5th house = 7th house = Ma and others. Count 3 from 7th house = 9th house = Ju Count 3 from 9th house = 11th house(!) = Sa ? [Here the logic fails and I stopped. ) ] Logic -3 (Not perfect) -------- Let us do some maths - 3+10 = 13 ; 13-12 = 1 ; Lagna 4+8 = 12 ; 12th house 5+9 = 14 ; 14-12 = 2 ; 2nd house Ju is the karaka for 2nd house. Any connection? Now the cutest part of this mail: " Special Complete Drishti " is supported by " NO Rishi horas " of the Arsha Kula! They have approved only that, ALL PLANETS have - 1/4th Drishti in 3rd and 10 house 1/2 Drishti in 5th and 9th 3/4th Drishti in 4th and 8th The concept of Special complete Drishti is a concept by Jain school of astrology, and is first given in Gargi hora. Even Varaha mihira indicates that it is not his concept but of others!! In the sloka " Tri dasa trikona.......kila veekshanedhika " , He says that it is an openion of " kila " , some others (not mihira)! But yes, as you know Laghu parasari supports this concept of Special complete drishti. (But now the question comes Laghu parasari is by Parasara or some body else?) Ok, what ever that be, we can accept that Gargi and Parasara approves the concept of special Drishtis, and it is extensively in use now a days as well. Love, Sreenadh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 dear sreenadh ji thanks for listing various logics which give new dimensions. i personally believe the following logic: as per NASA, the order of the planets is as follows: SUN MERCURY VENUS EARTH (MOON) ============ MARS JUPITER SATURN we find Mars, Jupiter and Saturn which are on the other side of earth are assigned special aspects either due to their farthest from sun or some technical scientific reason. i am not a scientist but believe there is some deeper meaning in this structure which correlates to the special aspects of these three planets. please throw more light from this angle or correct me if i am wrong. with best wishes pandit arjun , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Arjun ji, > Once I mentioned that I will find(!) some logical explanation for > special drishtis. Here is two of them. Not in detail, jus a small > sample. > Logic -1 > -------- > The special drishti is - " Charanabhi vridhita " , starts from legs! > Now consider kala purusha, let us alote leg to Sa, 10 th house > indicates middle portion of legs. let us make it short - > Sa = 3rd and 10th = Throat (Sound - Air) and Legs. > Ma = 4th and 8th = Chest and Sexual organs (Courage and Kama) > Ju = 5th and 9th = Belly and Thigh > So it is the Kalapurusha concept and the significance of body parts > is there behind. > Logic -2 (Not perfect) > -------- > The special drishti is - " Charanabhi vridhita " , one by fourth! > > 12/4 = 3. Meaning it increase by 3 signs in the order " Ravija > Amaredhya Rudira pare cha " (Varaha hora), i.e Sa, Ju, Ma, others. > > Count 3 from Lagna = 3rd hous = Sa. > Count 3 from 3rd house = 5th house = ju > Count 3 from 5th house = 7th house = Ma and others. > Count 3 from 7th house = 9th house = Ju > Count 3 from 9th house = 11th house(!) = Sa ? > [Here the logic fails and I stopped. ) ] > Logic -3 (Not perfect) > -------- > Let us do some maths - > 3+10 = 13 ; 13-12 = 1 ; Lagna > 4+8 = 12 ; 12th house > 5+9 = 14 ; 14-12 = 2 ; 2nd house > Ju is the karaka for 2nd house. Any connection? > > Now the cutest part of this mail: > > " Special Complete Drishti " is supported by " NO Rishi horas " of the > Arsha Kula! They have approved only that, ALL PLANETS have - > 1/4th Drishti in 3rd and 10 house > 1/2 Drishti in 5th and 9th > 3/4th Drishti in 4th and 8th > The concept of Special complete Drishti is a concept by Jain school > of astrology, and is first given in Gargi hora. Even Varaha mihira > indicates that it is not his concept but of others!! In the > sloka " Tri dasa trikona.......kila veekshanedhika " , He says that it > is an openion of " kila " , some others (not mihira)! > But yes, as you know Laghu parasari supports this concept of Special > complete drishti. (But now the question comes Laghu parasari is by > Parasara or some body else?) Ok, what ever that be, we can accept > that Gargi and Parasara approves the concept of special Drishtis, and > it is extensively in use now a days as well. > Love, > Sreenadh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Dear Arjun ji, In Varaha hora we can find the sloka - Tridasa trikona chaturashta saptama- navalokayanti charanabhi vridhita Ravijamaredhya rudhira parecha ye Kremaso bhavanti kila veekshanedhika I think that sloka, refects all these logics and many more! About the logic you said - just look at the sequece given in sloka! Ravija (Sa) - Amaredhya (Ju) - Rudhira (Ma)- Pare cha (Others). So the order is: Sa->Ju->Ma->||(Earth)||->Others (Mo,Ve,Me,Su) Listen to the word " Para " . The opposits could be " Apara " . Is it that Sa, Ju, Ma are - Para grahas and (Mo),Ve,Me,Su - are Apara grahas Does it that Para and Apara indicates the two sides of earth as well?! Don't confuce - the real meaning of the word Para is " Others " . I was just excersising logic. Want some more? Apara =A+Pa+ra. As per kapadayadi notation it would be 0-1-2. Writing in revese order (the standered method for kapadayadi), it becomes 210. 210/30 = 7. All the planets have full drishti in 7th house. Any connection? Yes, All this concepts about " Special full Drishti " of Sa, Ju and Ma are openions of somebody (Garga and Parasara) and not of the tradition followed by Mihira! Look at the word 'Kila'=somebody says! It means that except the Gargi hora reference, Mihira couldn't find this concept in Skanda hora, Brihal prajapatya, Vasishta Hora, Sounaka Hora, Kousika hora etc. But yes, I too think that your logic is the best out of the available ones. Love, Sreenadh , " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear sreenadh ji > > thanks for listing various logics which give new dimensions. > > i personally believe the following logic: > > as per NASA, the order of the planets is as follows: > > SUN > MERCURY > VENUS > EARTH (MOON) > ============ > MARS > JUPITER > SATURN > > we find Mars, Jupiter and Saturn which are on the other side of > earth are assigned special aspects either due to their farthest from > sun or some technical scientific reason. i am not a scientist but > believe there is some deeper meaning in this structure which > correlates to the special aspects of these three planets. > > please throw more light from this angle or correct me if i am wrong. > > with best wishes > pandit arjun > , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > Dear Arjun ji, > > Once I mentioned that I will find(!) some logical explanation > for > > special drishtis. Here is two of them. Not in detail, jus a > small > > sample. > > Logic -1 > > -------- > > The special drishti is - " Charanabhi vridhita " , starts from > legs! > > Now consider kala purusha, let us alote leg to Sa, 10 th house > > indicates middle portion of legs. let us make it short - > > Sa = 3rd and 10th = Throat (Sound - Air) and Legs. > > Ma = 4th and 8th = Chest and Sexual organs (Courage and Kama) > > Ju = 5th and 9th = Belly and Thigh > > So it is the Kalapurusha concept and the significance of body > parts > > is there behind. > > Logic -2 (Not perfect) > > -------- > > The special drishti is - " Charanabhi vridhita " , one by fourth! > > > > 12/4 = 3. Meaning it increase by 3 signs in the order " Ravija > > Amaredhya Rudira pare cha " (Varaha hora), i.e Sa, Ju, Ma, others. > > > > Count 3 from Lagna = 3rd hous = Sa. > > Count 3 from 3rd house = 5th house = ju > > Count 3 from 5th house = 7th house = Ma and others. > > Count 3 from 7th house = 9th house = Ju > > Count 3 from 9th house = 11th house(!) = Sa ? > > [Here the logic fails and I stopped. ) ] > > Logic -3 (Not perfect) > > -------- > > Let us do some maths - > > 3+10 = 13 ; 13-12 = 1 ; Lagna > > 4+8 = 12 ; 12th house > > 5+9 = 14 ; 14-12 = 2 ; 2nd house > > Ju is the karaka for 2nd house. Any connection? > > > > Now the cutest part of this mail: > > > > " Special Complete Drishti " is supported by " NO Rishi horas " of > the > > Arsha Kula! They have approved only that, ALL PLANETS have - > > 1/4th Drishti in 3rd and 10 house > > 1/2 Drishti in 5th and 9th > > 3/4th Drishti in 4th and 8th > > The concept of Special complete Drishti is a concept by Jain > school > > of astrology, and is first given in Gargi hora. Even Varaha mihira > > indicates that it is not his concept but of others!! In the > > sloka " Tri dasa trikona.......kila veekshanedhika " , He says that > it > > is an openion of " kila " , some others (not mihira)! > > But yes, as you know Laghu parasari supports this concept of > Special > > complete drishti. (But now the question comes Laghu parasari is by > > Parasara or some body else?) Ok, what ever that be, we can accept > > that Gargi and Parasara approves the concept of special Drishtis, > and > > it is extensively in use now a days as well. > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Dear Shreenadhji, Arjunji, Actually i feel a little diffident to talk on this forum because of my lack of knowledge of the subject. But if u could tolerate a little bit of kite flying....I would love to do this sometimes. Drishti is related to light / reflection of light, isn't it? Light diverges with distance, doesn't it? All the inner planets are closer to the earth. 180 degrees drishti (no divergence) therefore applies to them. As the distance increases so does the divergence of light rays reflected from the outer planets. Mars has the shortest distance from earth among outer planets so it forms the smallest angle of diversion at 30 degrees from 180 degrees (8th house dristi). Next comes Jupiter with higher divergence at 60 degrees from 180 degrees (5th and 9th house dristi). Saturn being the farthest from earth has the maximum angle of diversion (90 degrees divergence from 180 degrees for 3rd and 10th house dristis). So maybe the size and the distance of the planets have something to do with the special dristis of outer planets. (This, however, does not explain the 4th house dristi of Mars.) Whatever is written in the ancient scriptures (sans significance) must indicate that whoever wrote all this had a fairly accurate knowledge about the distances and the size of planets from the earth. Back to the theory that this ancient knowledge may have something to do with visitations from outer space??? Love, Vinita , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Arjun ji, > In Varaha hora we can find the sloka - > > Tridasa trikona chaturashta saptama- > navalokayanti charanabhi vridhita > Ravijamaredhya rudhira parecha ye > Kremaso bhavanti kila veekshanedhika > > I think that sloka, refects all these logics and many more! > > About the logic you said - just look at the sequece given in sloka! > Ravija (Sa) - Amaredhya (Ju) - Rudhira (Ma)- Pare cha (Others). So > the order is: > Sa->Ju->Ma->||(Earth)||->Others (Mo,Ve,Me,Su) > Listen to the word " Para " . The opposits could be " Apara " . Is it that > Sa, Ju, Ma are - Para grahas and > (Mo),Ve,Me,Su - are Apara grahas > Does it that Para and Apara indicates the two sides of earth as > well?! > Don't confuce - the real meaning of the word Para is " Others " . I was > just excersising logic. > Want some more? > Apara =A+Pa+ra. As per kapadayadi notation it would be 0-1-2. > Writing in revese order (the standered method for kapadayadi), it > becomes 210. 210/30 = 7. All the planets have full drishti in 7th > house. Any connection? > Yes, All this concepts about " Special full Drishti " of Sa, Ju and Ma > are openions of somebody (Garga and Parasara) and not of the > tradition followed by Mihira! Look at the word 'Kila'=somebody says! > It means that except the Gargi hora reference, Mihira couldn't find > this concept in Skanda hora, Brihal prajapatya, Vasishta Hora, > Sounaka Hora, Kousika hora etc. > But yes, I too think that your logic is the best out of the > available ones. > Love, > Sreenadh > > , " panditarjun2004 " > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > dear sreenadh ji > > > > thanks for listing various logics which give new dimensions. > > > > i personally believe the following logic: > > > > as per NASA, the order of the planets is as follows: > > > > SUN > > MERCURY > > VENUS > > EARTH (MOON) > > ============ > > MARS > > JUPITER > > SATURN > > > > we find Mars, Jupiter and Saturn which are on the other side of > > earth are assigned special aspects either due to their farthest > from > > sun or some technical scientific reason. i am not a scientist but > > believe there is some deeper meaning in this structure which > > correlates to the special aspects of these three planets. > > > > please throw more light from this angle or correct me if i am wrong. > > > > with best wishes > > pandit arjun > > , " Sreenadh " > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Arjun ji, > > > Once I mentioned that I will find(!) some logical explanation > > for > > > special drishtis. Here is two of them. Not in detail, jus a > > small > > > sample. > > > Logic -1 > > > -------- > > > The special drishti is - " Charanabhi vridhita " , starts from > > legs! > > > Now consider kala purusha, let us alote leg to Sa, 10 th house > > > indicates middle portion of legs. let us make it short - > > > Sa = 3rd and 10th = Throat (Sound - Air) and Legs. > > > Ma = 4th and 8th = Chest and Sexual organs (Courage and Kama) > > > Ju = 5th and 9th = Belly and Thigh > > > So it is the Kalapurusha concept and the significance of body > > parts > > > is there behind. > > > Logic -2 (Not perfect) > > > -------- > > > The special drishti is - " Charanabhi vridhita " , one by fourth! > > > > > > 12/4 = 3. Meaning it increase by 3 signs in the order " Ravija > > > Amaredhya Rudira pare cha " (Varaha hora), i.e Sa, Ju, Ma, others. > > > > > > Count 3 from Lagna = 3rd hous = Sa. > > > Count 3 from 3rd house = 5th house = ju > > > Count 3 from 5th house = 7th house = Ma and others. > > > Count 3 from 7th house = 9th house = Ju > > > Count 3 from 9th house = 11th house(!) = Sa ? > > > [Here the logic fails and I stopped. ) ] > > > Logic -3 (Not perfect) > > > -------- > > > Let us do some maths - > > > 3+10 = 13 ; 13-12 = 1 ; Lagna > > > 4+8 = 12 ; 12th house > > > 5+9 = 14 ; 14-12 = 2 ; 2nd house > > > Ju is the karaka for 2nd house. Any connection? > > > > > > Now the cutest part of this mail: > > > > > > " Special Complete Drishti " is supported by " NO Rishi horas " of > > the > > > Arsha Kula! They have approved only that, ALL PLANETS have - > > > 1/4th Drishti in 3rd and 10 house > > > 1/2 Drishti in 5th and 9th > > > 3/4th Drishti in 4th and 8th > > > The concept of Special complete Drishti is a concept by Jain > > school > > > of astrology, and is first given in Gargi hora. Even Varaha > mihira > > > indicates that it is not his concept but of others!! In the > > > sloka " Tri dasa trikona.......kila veekshanedhika " , He says that > > it > > > is an openion of " kila " , some others (not mihira)! > > > But yes, as you know Laghu parasari supports this concept of > > Special > > > complete drishti. (But now the question comes Laghu parasari is > by > > > Parasara or some body else?) Ok, what ever that be, we can accept > > > that Gargi and Parasara approves the concept of special Drishtis, > > and > > > it is extensively in use now a days as well. > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 There is another angle to this (perhaps). Why is it that Jupiter has a symmetrical drishti whereas Mars and Saturn have asymmetrical special dristis? Could this have something to do with the angle of obliquity of these planets? Jupiter is the most "straight" planet (as expected?) with the angle of obliquity = only 3 degrees whereas Mars is tilted 25 degrees and Saturn is tilted 27 degrees. Is this the reason why the special dristis are not symmetrical? Obliquity of the Nine Planets This illustration shows the obliquity of the nine planets. Obliquity is the angle between a planet's equatorial plane and its orbital plane. By International Astronomical Union (IAU) convention, a planet's north pole lies above the ecliptic plane. By this convention, Venus, Uranus, and Pluto have a retrograde rotation, or a rotation that is in the opposite direction from the other planets. (Copyright 1999 by Calvin J. Hamilton) I couldn't help noticing what has been underlined above and its link with a previous discussion regarding retro lagna. In fact it is thru this discussion that i came to learn the basic fundamentals about how lagna is determined in the first place. But it is a strange thought that lagna could be indeterminate for some births on this planet earth. For isn't astrology applicable to everyone who takes birth on this planet? Its a strange thing that about 4-5 months back I had raised a similar question to Sanjay Rath ji in his class on Panchanga. What I was told was that the rising sun / lagna is a mathematical point. There was some reference to a book also which i dont remember now. It may be there on the audio. , "vinita kumar" <shankar_mamta wrote:>> Dear Shreenadhji, Arjunji,> > Actually i feel a little diffident to talk on this forum because of > my lack of knowledge of the subject. But if u could tolerate a > little bit of kite flying....I would love to do this sometimes.> > Drishti is related to light / reflection of light, isn't it? Light > diverges with distance, doesn't it? All the inner planets are closer > to the earth. 180 degrees drishti (no divergence) therefore applies > to them. As the distance increases so does the divergence of light > rays reflected from the outer planets. Mars has the shortest > distance from earth among outer planets so it forms the smallest > angle of diversion at 30 degrees from 180 degrees (8th house > dristi). Next comes Jupiter with higher divergence at 60 degrees > from 180 degrees (5th and 9th house dristi). Saturn being the > farthest from earth has the maximum angle of diversion (90 degrees > divergence from 180 degrees for 3rd and 10th house dristis). So > maybe the size and the distance of the planets have something to do > with the special dristis of outer planets. (This, however, does not > explain the 4th house dristi of Mars.)> > Whatever is written in the ancient scriptures (sans significance)> must indicate that whoever wrote all this had a fairly accurate > knowledge about the distances and the size of planets from the > earth. > > Back to the theory that this ancient knowledge may have something to > do with visitations from outer space???> > Love,> Vinita> > , "Sreenadh" > sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear Arjun ji,> > In Varaha hora we can find the sloka -> > > > Tridasa trikona chaturashta saptama-> > navalokayanti charanabhi vridhita> > Ravijamaredhya rudhira parecha ye> > Kremaso bhavanti kila veekshanedhika> > > > I think that sloka, refects all these logics and many more!> > > > About the logic you said - just look at the sequece given in > sloka!> > Ravija (Sa) - Amaredhya (Ju) - Rudhira (Ma)- Pare cha (Others). > So > > the order is:> > Sa->Ju->Ma->||(Earth)||->Others (Mo,Ve,Me,Su)> > Listen to the word "Para". The opposits could be "Apara". Is it > that > > Sa, Ju, Ma are - Para grahas and> > (Mo),Ve,Me,Su - are Apara grahas> > Does it that Para and Apara indicates the two sides of earth as > > well?! > > Don't confuce - the real meaning of the word Para is "Others". I > was > > just excersising logic. > > Want some more?> > Apara =A+Pa+ra. As per kapadayadi notation it would be 0-1-2. > > Writing in revese order (the standered method for kapadayadi), it > > becomes 210. 210/30 = 7. All the planets have full drishti in 7th > > house. Any connection? > > Yes, All this concepts about "Special full Drishti" of Sa, Ju and > Ma > > are openions of somebody (Garga and Parasara) and not of the > > tradition followed by Mihira! Look at the word 'Kila'=somebody > says! > > It means that except the Gargi hora reference, Mihira couldn't > find > > this concept in Skanda hora, Brihal prajapatya, Vasishta Hora, > > Sounaka Hora, Kousika hora etc. > > But yes, I too think that your logic is the best out of the > > available ones. > > Love,> > Sreenadh> > > > , "panditarjun2004" > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:> > >> > > dear sreenadh ji> > > > > > thanks for listing various logics which give new dimensions.> > > > > > i personally believe the following logic:> > > > > > as per NASA, the order of the planets is as follows:> > > > > > SUN> > > MERCURY> > > VENUS> > > EARTH (MOON)> > > ============> > > MARS> > > JUPITER> > > SATURN> > > > > > we find Mars, Jupiter and Saturn which are on the other side of > > > earth are assigned special aspects either due to their farthest > > from > > > sun or some technical scientific reason. i am not a scientist > but > > > believe there is some deeper meaning in this structure which > > > correlates to the special aspects of these three planets. > > > > > > please throw more light from this angle or correct me if i am > wrong.> > > > > > with best wishes> > > pandit arjun> > > , "Sreenadh" > > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Arjun ji,> > > > Once I mentioned that I will find(!) some logical > explanation > > > for > > > > special drishtis. Here is two of them. Not in detail, jus a > > > small > > > > sample. > > > > Logic -1> > > > --------> > > > The special drishti is - "Charanabhi vridhita", starts from > > > legs! > > > > Now consider kala purusha, let us alote leg to Sa, 10 th > house > > > > indicates middle portion of legs. let us make it short -> > > > Sa = 3rd and 10th = Throat (Sound - Air) and Legs.> > > > Ma = 4th and 8th = Chest and Sexual organs (Courage and Kama)> > > > Ju = 5th and 9th = Belly and Thigh > > > > So it is the Kalapurusha concept and the significance of body > > > parts > > > > is there behind.> > > > Logic -2 (Not perfect)> > > > --------> > > > The special drishti is - "Charanabhi vridhita", one by > fourth! > > > > > > > > 12/4 = 3. Meaning it increase by 3 signs in the order "Ravija > > > > Amaredhya Rudira pare cha" (Varaha hora), i.e Sa, Ju, Ma, > others.> > > > > > > > Count 3 from Lagna = 3rd hous = Sa.> > > > Count 3 from 3rd house = 5th house = ju> > > > Count 3 from 5th house = 7th house = Ma and others.> > > > Count 3 from 7th house = 9th house = Ju > > > > Count 3 from 9th house = 11th house(!) = Sa ?> > > > [Here the logic fails and I stopped. ) ] > > > > Logic -3 (Not perfect)> > > > --------> > > > Let us do some maths -> > > > 3+10 = 13 ; 13-12 = 1 ; Lagna> > > > 4+8 = 12 ; 12th house> > > > 5+9 = 14 ; 14-12 = 2 ; 2nd house> > > > Ju is the karaka for 2nd house. Any connection? > > > > > > > > Now the cutest part of this mail:> > > > > > > > "Special Complete Drishti" is supported by "NO Rishi horas" > of > > > the > > > > Arsha Kula! They have approved only that, ALL PLANETS have -> > > > 1/4th Drishti in 3rd and 10 house> > > > 1/2 Drishti in 5th and 9th> > > > 3/4th Drishti in 4th and 8th> > > > The concept of Special complete Drishti is a concept by Jain > > > school > > > > of astrology, and is first given in Gargi hora. Even Varaha > > mihira > > > > indicates that it is not his concept but of others!! In the > > > > sloka "Tri dasa trikona.......kila veekshanedhika", He says > that > > > it > > > > is an openion of "kila", some others (not mihira)! > > > > But yes, as you know Laghu parasari supports this concept of > > > Special > > > > complete drishti. (But now the question comes Laghu parasari > is > > by > > > > Parasara or some body else?) Ok, what ever that be, we can > accept > > > > that Gargi and Parasara approves the concept of special > Drishtis, > > > and > > > > it is extensively in use now a days as well. > > > > Love,> > > > Sreenadh> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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