Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Dear Shreenadhji, "there are many methods". Indeed. That is why perhaps we have come to a quandary and today's astrology is a rather woebgone subject. That is why perhaps someone like me, possibly many others too, are on this forum. So as to cut the deadwood. To make a pithy bark to sail the ocean. We are at sea. Variously if not uniformly. All us. Panditji began by asking: How can we judge from a kundali how many issues will be there. In the 10-point cordial response from Pandit Arjun I saw not any mention of 9th hse. Except as the hse of 3rd child. May I say something? 9th hse predominates over 5th in female horoscopy in progeny consideration. And woman as kshetra remains ahead of man. Even in a man's horoscope 9th hse comes into play. And at least one classic, if I remember aright, talks of man's 9th hse vis-a-vis progeny. The logic that 9th is mirror hse of 5th is a little feckless to me. We need fresh scintillating reasoning. This is how I think we should go about cutting the deadwood. I would like learned members, and I dare you Shree Shreenadh, to answer comprehensively and crease out the bumps which come before us in the shape of many rules and many methods. (I accept there need not be THE rule, as this is a gnostic discipline.) Best, RK Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear Panditji,There are many methods, but most of them does not seems to give the correct result, may be also due to the influence of will, because we can stop preganacy at any time. But still I will try to state some of the popular methods that are in use.Number of children------------------1) Count the navamsa of the 5th lord. Avoid the signs owned by malific planets, and the signs in which malifics are placed. The remaining number will give the number of children. 2) The same method as told above taking the Ju instead of 5th lord.3) The total number of bebefic planets that aspects (Drishti) the 5th house + the total number of benefic planets that is placed in the 5th house can give the total number of children. But if the planet is in own house you need to multiply the number by two and if it is in exaltation you need to multiply the number by three. [This method is very difficult to apply properly, due to many special rules connected with]. But as arjun ji pointed out, the planets placed in 5th and aspecting 5th has much importance in determining the number of children.4) The number of planets placed between 5th house (=sign) and 5th lord can indicate the number of children.But in general, in total astrology, there does not seems to be any systematic and generally applied to calculate numbers, amounts, persentage etc, that gives correct results.Male/Female determination-------------------------We have to depend on Male/Female classification of signs and planets.Love,Sreenadh , "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 wrote:>> dear pandit ji> namaste> > my understanding (open to correction or addition) is as follows:> > 1. all odd signs are male signs and all even signs are female > signs. so the 5th house is first seen whether it has a male or > female sign.> > 2. sun, mars, jupiter are reckoned as male giving planets. moon, > venus, mercury and saturn are reckoned as female giving planets.> > 3. taurus, leo, virgo and scorpio signs in 5th house are considered > giving less and delayed children.> > 4. the number of children is obtained by finding out which planet is > in 5th house. for example sun in 5H gives one son. moon in 5H > gives one daughter. mars in 5H gives three sons. mercury in 5H > gives two daughters. jupiter in 5H can give up to 5 sons. venus in > 5H can give up to 7 daughters. saturn in 5H can give maximum number > of 8 daughters. in rare cases, saturn in 5H also gives son if the > 5th lord is a male planet and is aspected by a male planet.> > 5. rahu can cause miscarriages while ketu can give premature > (underdeveloped) babies.> > 6. to arrive at the total number of children the sign of 5H, number > of planets in 5H, number of planets aspecting 5H and lastly number > of planets in conjunction with 5th lord are reckoned.> > 7. first child is seen from 5H, second child from 7H, third child > from 9H etc.> > 8. some researchers have written books stating that 3rd house also > denotes children and have given how many children each planet in 3rd > house gives. but i dont know the logic behind this and hence not > mentioning them.> > 9. D-7 or saptamamsha is also seen for calculating the number of > children.> > 10. lastly, in my experience all the above are to be seen in the > mother's chart for it is the mother who gives children and not the > father. this is based on various reasons. also in bigamy and > polygamy a man begets children from several wives and in those cases > also each mother's chart is seen for the number of children and > their gender.> > with best wishes> pandit arjun> > , Panditji > <navagraha@> wrote:> >> > Namaste,> > > > I wanted start a new discussion.> > > > How can we judge from a kundali how many issues will be there.> > > > I have never gotten a good reading of this vexing issue.> > > > There are things like looking at influence on 5th house and 5th > lord. # male> > graha influence = # male issues, etc.> > > > Has anyoner done a comprehensive study of this.> > > > ...> > > > P.S. It may be a moot point in this day and age when most middel > class> > people have no more than two.> >> India Answers Share what your know-how and wisdom Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger Download now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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