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Dear Dhanapal, I will try to explain with an example, rather than theory so that you will understand the concept better. Pls have a look at the data appended Place & State withheld for obvious reasons Navamsa Ascendant--Leo Date--4 Sept 1948 Time---00:23 Hours IST Asc--26Tau11 Case History The native is a rich businessman and an expert in Astrology(Non-practising) with several successful predictions to his credit. Unfortunately, he is blind by one eye(Right Eye) due to sudden attack of glycoma .The 2H & the luminary Sun should be considered for the right eye sight . As per the dicta "Amsakam Balam Uttamam" , that means, the strength in divisions fares better (Than Rasi) , you could notice Mercury , the 2L of right eye in fall in D-9. Further, Mercury is also the 2L in D-9 and it is in 8th(A

Dusthana) to D-9 Ascendant .Though not relevant to present discussion, Sun , the significator of right eye is severely spoiled since it is afflicted by Rahu (Trinal Aspect--120*) within an orb of 5*.To cap it, the strength and position of the planet in divisions should be given preponderance to get a holistic view about the manner in which the planets are going to deliver their results. Hope you got the doubt cleared Best Wishes Madhu N Nair Dhanapal T <tdhanapal_logic wrote: Dear Madhu ji and Sreenadh ji, Thanks a lot for the explanations provided indepth. It cleared so many confusions I had. Another doubt. Does planets position in the Navamsa based on Navamsa lagna is important? For example, Mithuna

is Navamsa lagna, Venus is in Virgo. What you will consider about the strength of Venus? Is is so weak or it has got some power since it is in Kendra/dig pala. Also do we have to consider the planets position in the Navamsa based on rasi chart lagna? Thank you again, Dhanapal VYASAJI <vyasatvm wrote: Dear Dhanapal, I will try to answer to my best of my ability purely on the basis of experience rather than what is given in the Rule book(read Text book) .In Kerala, especially, well known and highly respected genuine scholars in Astrology of the old generation like Paravoor Sreedharan Tantri , and the stalwarts of the modern era like Trikunna puzha

Udayakumar etc are seen evaluating the D-9 in the following way, especially in prasna (Obviously they might be interpreting in the same manner in Horoscopes too) Consider Aries as the Ascendant. Suppose a planet is in 7* in Aries. Then, they say in Malayalam " Lagnathinthay munnil amshichirikunnu " That means, the planet begets an amsa in the 3rd from the Ascendant. I haven't seen them attaching any special importance to Navamsa Lagna.Navamsa chart has no independent existence and should be read along with Rasi chart. However, they use to treat the dispositor of a Rasi lord at par with the Bhava Lord as reckoned from the Ascendant.. I will elaborate. Usually they say like this "Lagnathipano Lagnathipantay Amsakadhipano " That means "either the Ascendant Lord or its Navamsa dispositor". Suppose Aries is the Ascendant and Mars is in Aries with a longitude of 4* , that means, the navamsa dispositor of Mars is Venus. Whilst discussing the Ascendant lord

and its implication, they invariably takes into account its navamsa dispositor, ie Venus. Now regarding the question of Aspects in Divisional Charts Let me tell you from experience that Aspects apply exclusively to Rasi and definitely not to Divisional charts. Unfortunately a commentator of BPHS (SC Mishra)in one of his articles says aspects are equally true in divisions. This is not borne out of experience. Anyone repeat anyone who interprets the divisional charts with aspects are just misguiding the gullible.A counter question should be posed to protagonist of aspects in Divisional charts "What about aspects in Hora chart" They will find their tongue tied. Let me share my experience in Navamsa. I have seen planet in Fall in Navamsa or planet in Navamsa that forms 2/12 or 6/8 relationship with the major period in Navamsa adversely affecting married life. This scribe has

got the good fortune to study hundreds of horoscopes of Gulf wives.(wives of poor workers hailing from kerala toiling in Middle East and who are not in a position to take their wives with them ) In many (not a Thumb rule) one could find the MD forming 2/12 relation with the sub period(s) operating.Regarding Yogas in Navamsa , there is a concept "Rasi thulya Navamsa " That is , Navamsa is equivalent to Rasi chart (Don't misunderstand, D-9 has no independent existence and should always be read along with Rasi). If my memory is correct in the chart of Mohammed Ali, the famous boxing champion of yester years , you could find a yoga for parkinsonism in D-9.The point is D-9 often excels or modify the indications of Rasi chart though it cannot override it.Retrogression & Direction of planets applies only to Rasi chart and not to divisions. Virgo is the inimical sign of Jupiter. Hope this

helps Madhu N Nair Dhanapal T <tdhanapal_logic wrote: Dear Sreenadh, Madhu ji and other dear beloved learned members, Thanks to all of you for sharing the vital knowledge and giving the beginners like us great indepth into the indian ancient astrology. I had some doubts in Navamsha and thought of posting them. I think this is the right time to post:-). 1) What is the importance of Navamsha lagna? Is it only used for to verifty that horoscope is correct? (For ex:- Navamsha lagana in male rasi for males and viceversa makes it clear that the horoscope possibly correct). 2) In rasi, we give importance to the placements of the lagna lord, the fifth lord and the ninth lord. Same thing

should be considered for 1,5,9 lords in Navamsha chart too? 3) Do we have to consider the dhristhi for all the planets? (Ex: For jupitor 5, 7,9 drishti is there in rasi chart. Same thing applicable in Navamsha chart too? 4) Does Navamsha creates yogas too? In rasi, we consider neecha panga yoga, Guru-mangal yoga etc., Same thing applicable in Navamsha too? 5) The discussion of this thread is "Navamsha for spouse". What exactly we have to look into the navamsha chart to see whether one really has blessed married life? Then what is the focus to be given on sapthamsa chart (7th) different than Navamsha? 6) Does retrograde to planets applicable in Navamsha chart too? 7) What is the relationship does Jupitor have in Kanya(virgo)? Is it a friendly sign or enemy sign? One of the astrologer I met argued that it is

enemy sign even though some of the books I read consider it as friendly sign. Please forgive me if they are too basic:-). I thought this is the correct forum to clear my doubts. I feel this will be useful to many other members here. Thank you, Dhanapal Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear Arjunji,Navamsa gets double importance than any other Varga(Amsa) and that is the reason for its importance. They are-1) It is 1/9 th of a Sign. So it is importance as a 'Rasyamsa'.2) It is 1/4 th of a star. (This forms the base of Sign and Nakshatra divisions) So it is important as a 'Nakshatramsa'.So at the same time Navamsa is Rasyamsa (Division of Sign),

and Nakshatramsa (Division of Star). To add to it -3) The luck (or destiny) of a person is what we are trying to decipher using the whole horoscope. In the horoscope the 9th house indicates Luck (Bhagya). There for 9th house is specially important in any horoscope. As per Dwadesa Varga system, the Varga that indicates 9th house related matters is Navamsa (R x 9). This also gives special importance to Navamsa.It is due to the cumulative effect of all these that the saints gave special importance to Navamsa. Love,Sreenadh , "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 wrote:>> dear pradeep ji> > besides what you mentioned, which is correct, navamsha is the only > divional chart reckoned by all astrologers invariably before > attempting any prediction. it is widely believed that a planet's > strength increases

or decreases from lagna chart when compared to > its strength in navamsha. for example, if the strength of a planet > in lagna chart is zero and in navamsha it is five, the net strenght > would be 2.5 and similarly if the strenght in lagna chart of a > planet is 5 and in navamsha it is -5 the net strength would be zero.> > as sreenadhji observed in one mail, the above quantification is only > for simple understanding and not application of maths or any rules > as such.> > we can discuss more on this important divisional chart, sreenadh ji > willing.> > with best wishes> pandit arjun> , "vijayadas_pradeep" > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:> >> > Dear Respected members> > > > I am posting my understanding on the subject.Kindly verify.> > > >

Spouse is sometimes termed as PraanaSakhi(beloved companion of> > Prana).Also Spouse is known as one half of Prana.Shiva and Shakthi > and> > Ardhanareeshwara - any connection?.> > > > Now Navamshas represent Navapranas as per Dashadhyayi.> > > > Combining own understanding(can be wrong) with authentic words of> > Thalakkulathu Bhattathiri(Dashadhyayi author) - relationship > between> > Navamsha and Spouse can be linked.> > > > Thus studying the navamsha sambandha of a graha on relevant bhavas > or> > Karaka planets,as mentioned in Classics seems to be correct and > pretty> > clear than the contemporary understanding of Navamsha analysis.It > is my> > personal opinion and other learned members can very well disagree.> > > > Thanks> > Pradeep>

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