Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Dear Panditji Change of residence is a brilliant clue,and points towards application of common sense. Thanks a lot Pradeep , Panditji <navagraha wrote: > > Namaste, > > It is not the first time this kind of thing has happened and won't be the > last. This is the reason astrology has very low credibility. There are very > few who actually do predictions. Once the election is close they can read > the opinion polls and give their astro lingo reading. Most of it is what > dasha is the native running or what planet is where in rashi and ofcourse > myriads of divisions projected as divisional charts. The conclusion is > reached alrrady by the poll catsers. > > Like in the presidential election, many well known astrologers predicted > victory for the current president, very close to election time. If astrology > is such a wonderful science, can we not predict change of residence ? Thats > was the point I was harping on in the US elections. If bush had lost the > election, he would have moved back to Texas. Now why do we need all the > authentic horoscopes of all the challengers ? Can we not predict whether a > person will change residence ? If we can not, there is a serious lack of > understanding of basic principles or the principles are not repeatable or > both. > > ... > > > On 5/13/06, panditarjun2004 panditarjun2004 wrote: > > > > dear pradeep ji > > > > thanks for your good words which i dont deserve as > > > > the best part of this group is that sreenadh ji is willing to share > > as much as he can from as much as he learnt freely to all willing > > seekers. in other groups, some element of sycophancy and blind > > belief of " because mr. so and so said so " is visible. in this group > > constructive criticism and disagreement to views and open discussion > > in a free but respectable manner is observed which is very healthy > > for the progress of this group. > > > > the entire pramod mahajan issue brought disrepute to astrology so > > much so that CNN-IBN said this: > > > > Mahajan left astrologers bewildered > > ANI > > Posted Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 18:54 > > Updated Thursday , May 04, 2006 at 12:54 > > Email Email Print Print > > > > New Delhi: BJP General Secretary Pramod Mahajan breathed his last on > > Wednesday afternoon after a 12-day battle for life at P D Hinduja > > Hospital in Mumbai. > > > > The untimely demise of the former Union minister not only created a > > shock wave in political circles but also caught astrologers on the > > wrong foot. > > > > A leading South Indian astrologer, K Gopalakrishnan, had predicted > > that Mahajan would don the mantle of presidency or prime > > ministership after the year 2009. > > > > Gopalakrishnan had said, " Pramod Mahajan will continue to be > > successful in Indian politics, and will get elected once again. " > > > > " He has very good chances of holding the highest post in Indian > > polity - like Prime Minister or the President. " > > > > " Mahajan's powerful Mercury Maha Dasa is unfolding from 2009, which > > will give him a great lift in BJP. " > > > > Another astrologer, Dr Prem Kumar Sharma, had predicted that Mahajan > > had chances of occupying a " good office " in 2007 despite fluctuating > > fortunes till December 2006. > > > > " It was that Rahu from 18-02-2004 to 26-12-2006 would be a period of > > mixed fortunes. This is in 11th house and under aspect of Jupiter it > > is propitious but in Navamsa it is in 9th house and thus not poised > > for as good result as in 11th house. " > > > > " But this period would lay foundation for him to occupy a good > > office in the years 2007 to 2013 during these years he would be > > running Saturn-Jupiter, Merc-Merc, Merc-Ketu, Merc-Ven (1/3), " > > Sharma had said. > > > > Besides the astrologers, former PM Atal Behari Vajpayee had added > > his own twist when he endorsed Mahajan as a future leader of the > > country. > > > > At a public speech, Vajpayee had enigmatically said that Mahajan and > > Advani would continue to " lead the party " . > > ---- > > > > did any one predicted that mahajan would be SHOT AT before he was > > shot by his brother. NO. once after the shooting took place, every > > one was betting only on whether he survives or not i.e. as simple as > > heads or tails 50:50. hence all fame hungry astrologers jumped to > > say " I READ HIS CHART " " I KNOW OR I HAVE THE REAL CHART OF PRAMOD " > > etc. my humble submission to all of them is that when parliament of > > india and PTI which is the highest body is showing a different date > > of birth, how can they disbelive the government. the drama further > > turned comic when someone said 'AN ASTROLOGER WHO READ PRAMOD'S > > CHART GAVE ME THESE DETAILS " . so with each astrologer's changing > > hands, the birth date (1948 or 1949) and the place (hyderabad or > > mahaboobnagar) kept changing and so are lagnas. in future, before > > such pubic predictions are made, first a discussion shall take place > > to find out the authentic birth details. > > > > with best wishes > > arjun > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > vijayadas_pradeep@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Madhu ji > > > > > > Congrats for prediction regarding VS.Today Asianet has reported,a > > news > > > confirming this,though the offcial announcement will only come on > > > Monday,after the State committee meeting.Is the source of birth > > time > > > authentic. > > > > > > Dear PanditArjun ji > > > Congrats for Jayalalitha related prediction.As you have rightly > > said > > > some astrologers, on other lists,are belittling themselves,by > > giving > > > predictions after exit polls . > > > > > > Its also educative to read the posts regarding Prashna from > > Sreenadh ji > > > and Madhu ji. > > > > > > Kind Regds > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 I second that. Commonsense can only be disregarded at the astrologer's peril. If you look for possibilities of divorce in a chart, look first for signs of marriage +++ , " vijayadas_pradeep " <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > Dear Panditji > > Change of residence is a brilliant clue,and points towards application > of common sense. > > Thanks a lot > > Pradeep > , Panditji > <navagraha@> wrote: > > > > Namaste, > > > > It is not the first time this kind of thing has happened and won't be > the > > last. This is the reason astrology has very low credibility. There are > very > > few who actually do predictions. Once the election is close they can > read > > the opinion polls and give their astro lingo reading. Most of it is > what > > dasha is the native running or what planet is where in rashi and > ofcourse > > myriads of divisions projected as divisional charts. The conclusion is > > reached alrrady by the poll catsers. > > > > Like in the presidential election, many well known astrologers > predicted > > victory for the current president, very close to election time. If > astrology > > is such a wonderful science, can we not predict change of residence ? > Thats > > was the point I was harping on in the US elections. If bush had lost > the > > election, he would have moved back to Texas. Now why do we need all > the > > authentic horoscopes of all the challengers ? Can we not predict > whether a > > person will change residence ? If we can not, there is a serious lack > of > > understanding of basic principles or the principles are not repeatable > or > > both. > > > > ... > > > > > > On 5/13/06, panditarjun2004 panditarjun2004@ wrote: > > > > > > dear pradeep ji > > > > > > thanks for your good words which i dont deserve as > > > > > > the best part of this group is that sreenadh ji is willing to share > > > as much as he can from as much as he learnt freely to all willing > > > seekers. in other groups, some element of sycophancy and blind > > > belief of " because mr. so and so said so " is visible. in this group > > > constructive criticism and disagreement to views and open discussion > > > in a free but respectable manner is observed which is very healthy > > > for the progress of this group. > > > > > > the entire pramod mahajan issue brought disrepute to astrology so > > > much so that CNN-IBN said this: > > > > > > Mahajan left astrologers bewildered > > > ANI > > > Posted Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 18:54 > > > Updated Thursday , May 04, 2006 at 12:54 > > > Email Email Print Print > > > > > > New Delhi: BJP General Secretary Pramod Mahajan breathed his last on > > > Wednesday afternoon after a 12-day battle for life at P D Hinduja > > > Hospital in Mumbai. > > > > > > The untimely demise of the former Union minister not only created a > > > shock wave in political circles but also caught astrologers on the > > > wrong foot. > > > > > > A leading South Indian astrologer, K Gopalakrishnan, had predicted > > > that Mahajan would don the mantle of presidency or prime > > > ministership after the year 2009. > > > > > > Gopalakrishnan had said, " Pramod Mahajan will continue to be > > > successful in Indian politics, and will get elected once again. " > > > > > > " He has very good chances of holding the highest post in Indian > > > polity - like Prime Minister or the President. " > > > > > > " Mahajan's powerful Mercury Maha Dasa is unfolding from 2009, which > > > will give him a great lift in BJP. " > > > > > > Another astrologer, Dr Prem Kumar Sharma, had predicted that Mahajan > > > had chances of occupying a " good office " in 2007 despite fluctuating > > > fortunes till December 2006. > > > > > > " It was that Rahu from 18-02-2004 to 26-12-2006 would be a period of > > > mixed fortunes. This is in 11th house and under aspect of Jupiter it > > > is propitious but in Navamsa it is in 9th house and thus not poised > > > for as good result as in 11th house. " > > > > > > " But this period would lay foundation for him to occupy a good > > > office in the years 2007 to 2013 during these years he would be > > > running Saturn-Jupiter, Merc-Merc, Merc-Ketu, Merc-Ven (1/3), " > > > Sharma had said. > > > > > > Besides the astrologers, former PM Atal Behari Vajpayee had added > > > his own twist when he endorsed Mahajan as a future leader of the > > > country. > > > > > > At a public speech, Vajpayee had enigmatically said that Mahajan and > > > Advani would continue to " lead the party " . > > > ---- > > > > > > did any one predicted that mahajan would be SHOT AT before he was > > > shot by his brother. NO. once after the shooting took place, every > > > one was betting only on whether he survives or not i.e. as simple as > > > heads or tails 50:50. hence all fame hungry astrologers jumped to > > > say " I READ HIS CHART " " I KNOW OR I HAVE THE REAL CHART OF PRAMOD " > > > etc. my humble submission to all of them is that when parliament of > > > india and PTI which is the highest body is showing a different date > > > of birth, how can they disbelive the government. the drama further > > > turned comic when someone said 'AN ASTROLOGER WHO READ PRAMOD'S > > > CHART GAVE ME THESE DETAILS " . so with each astrologer's changing > > > hands, the birth date (1948 or 1949) and the place (hyderabad or > > > mahaboobnagar) kept changing and so are lagnas. in future, before > > > such pubic predictions are made, first a discussion shall take place > > > to find out the authentic birth details. > > > > > > with best wishes > > > arjun > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > vijayadas_pradeep@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Madhu ji > > > > > > > > Congrats for prediction regarding VS.Today Asianet has reported,a > > > news > > > > confirming this,though the offcial announcement will only come on > > > > Monday,after the State committee meeting.Is the source of birth > > > time > > > > authentic. > > > > > > > > Dear PanditArjun ji > > > > Congrats for Jayalalitha related prediction.As you have rightly > > > said > > > > some astrologers, on other lists,are belittling themselves,by > > > giving > > > > predictions after exit polls . > > > > > > > > Its also educative to read the posts regarding Prashna from > > > Sreenadh ji > > > > and Madhu ji. > > > > > > > > Kind Regds > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Dear vernalagnia ji, Well said! If want to find the efficient use of commonsense in astrology, then Prasnamarga is a verygood text that provided many examples I think. Love, Sreenadh , " vernalagnia " <vernalagnia wrote: > > I second that. Commonsense can only be disregarded at the astrologer's > peril. If you look for possibilities of divorce in a chart, look first > for signs of marriage > +++ > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Panditji > > > > Change of residence is a brilliant clue,and points towards application > > of common sense. > > > > Thanks a lot > > > > Pradeep > > , Panditji > > <navagraha@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > It is not the first time this kind of thing has happened and won't be > > the > > > last. This is the reason astrology has very low credibility. There are > > very > > > few who actually do predictions. Once the election is close they can > > read > > > the opinion polls and give their astro lingo reading. Most of it is > > what > > > dasha is the native running or what planet is where in rashi and > > ofcourse > > > myriads of divisions projected as divisional charts. The conclusion is > > > reached alrrady by the poll catsers. > > > > > > Like in the presidential election, many well known astrologers > > predicted > > > victory for the current president, very close to election time. If > > astrology > > > is such a wonderful science, can we not predict change of residence ? > > Thats > > > was the point I was harping on in the US elections. If bush had lost > > the > > > election, he would have moved back to Texas. Now why do we need all > > the > > > authentic horoscopes of all the challengers ? Can we not predict > > whether a > > > person will change residence ? If we can not, there is a serious lack > > of > > > understanding of basic principles or the principles are not repeatable > > or > > > both. > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > On 5/13/06, panditarjun2004 panditarjun2004@ wrote: > > > > > > > > dear pradeep ji > > > > > > > > thanks for your good words which i dont deserve as > > > > > > > > the best part of this group is that sreenadh ji is willing to share > > > > as much as he can from as much as he learnt freely to all willing > > > > seekers. in other groups, some element of sycophancy and blind > > > > belief of " because mr. so and so said so " is visible. in this group > > > > constructive criticism and disagreement to views and open discussion > > > > in a free but respectable manner is observed which is very healthy > > > > for the progress of this group. > > > > > > > > the entire pramod mahajan issue brought disrepute to astrology so > > > > much so that CNN-IBN said this: > > > > > > > > Mahajan left astrologers bewildered > > > > ANI > > > > Posted Wednesday, May 03, 2006 at 18:54 > > > > Updated Thursday , May 04, 2006 at 12:54 > > > > Email Email Print Print > > > > > > > > New Delhi: BJP General Secretary Pramod Mahajan breathed his last on > > > > Wednesday afternoon after a 12-day battle for life at P D Hinduja > > > > Hospital in Mumbai. > > > > > > > > The untimely demise of the former Union minister not only created a > > > > shock wave in political circles but also caught astrologers on the > > > > wrong foot. > > > > > > > > A leading South Indian astrologer, K Gopalakrishnan, had predicted > > > > that Mahajan would don the mantle of presidency or prime > > > > ministership after the year 2009. > > > > > > > > Gopalakrishnan had said, " Pramod Mahajan will continue to be > > > > successful in Indian politics, and will get elected once again. " > > > > > > > > " He has very good chances of holding the highest post in Indian > > > > polity - like Prime Minister or the President. " > > > > > > > > " Mahajan's powerful Mercury Maha Dasa is unfolding from 2009, which > > > > will give him a great lift in BJP. " > > > > > > > > Another astrologer, Dr Prem Kumar Sharma, had predicted that Mahajan > > > > had chances of occupying a " good office " in 2007 despite fluctuating > > > > fortunes till December 2006. > > > > > > > > " It was that Rahu from 18-02-2004 to 26-12-2006 would be a period of > > > > mixed fortunes. This is in 11th house and under aspect of Jupiter it > > > > is propitious but in Navamsa it is in 9th house and thus not poised > > > > for as good result as in 11th house. " > > > > > > > > " But this period would lay foundation for him to occupy a good > > > > office in the years 2007 to 2013 during these years he would be > > > > running Saturn-Jupiter, Merc-Merc, Merc-Ketu, Merc-Ven (1/3), " > > > > Sharma had said. > > > > > > > > Besides the astrologers, former PM Atal Behari Vajpayee had added > > > > his own twist when he endorsed Mahajan as a future leader of the > > > > country. > > > > > > > > At a public speech, Vajpayee had enigmatically said that Mahajan and > > > > Advani would continue to " lead the party " . > > > > ---- > > > > > > > > did any one predicted that mahajan would be SHOT AT before he was > > > > shot by his brother. NO. once after the shooting took place, every > > > > one was betting only on whether he survives or not i.e. as simple as > > > > heads or tails 50:50. hence all fame hungry astrologers jumped to > > > > say " I READ HIS CHART " " I KNOW OR I HAVE THE REAL CHART OF PRAMOD " > > > > etc. my humble submission to all of them is that when parliament of > > > > india and PTI which is the highest body is showing a different date > > > > of birth, how can they disbelive the government. the drama further > > > > turned comic when someone said 'AN ASTROLOGER WHO READ PRAMOD'S > > > > CHART GAVE ME THESE DETAILS " . so with each astrologer's changing > > > > hands, the birth date (1948 or 1949) and the place (hyderabad or > > > > mahaboobnagar) kept changing and so are lagnas. in future, before > > > > such pubic predictions are made, first a discussion shall take place > > > > to find out the authentic birth details. > > > > > > > > with best wishes > > > > arjun > > > > --- In , " vijayadas_pradeep " > > > > vijayadas_pradeep@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Madhu ji > > > > > > > > > > Congrats for prediction regarding VS.Today Asianet has reported,a > > > > news > > > > > confirming this,though the offcial announcement will only come on > > > > > Monday,after the State committee meeting.Is the source of birth > > > > time > > > > > authentic. > > > > > > > > > > Dear PanditArjun ji > > > > > Congrats for Jayalalitha related prediction.As you have rightly > > > > said > > > > > some astrologers, on other lists,are belittling themselves,by > > > > giving > > > > > predictions after exit polls . > > > > > > > > > > Its also educative to read the posts regarding Prashna from > > > > Sreenadh ji > > > > > and Madhu ji. > > > > > > > > > > Kind Regds > > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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