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Dear Pradeep ji,

Context is always important in interpretting the meaning of words. :)

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, " vijayadas_pradeep "

<vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

>

> Sarvashree Sreenadh,Arjun and repsected members

>

> please find the reply sent to Ranjan ji

>

> Sorry about the delayed reply.As you have rightly mentioned, there

can

> be many interpretations from the Navamshas of planets.But ofcourse

we

> are yet to fully understand them.Dharma Patni can also be a valid

point

> as number 9,is pertaining to Dharma.Through Shradha

(attention),resulting

> in dharma,one can attain success.Thus among various vargas attained

by a

> planet,navamsha is very very important, as,it shows the vital

condition

> of, Prana and its influence.If a planet is weak in navamsha,one has

to

> struggle hard for the said Shradha.

>

> As 5th pertains to any kind of creation or followers - to have a

child

> through own Bija - 7 th house is necessary,for Anda

samyojana.Similarly

> for spouse matters ''Classical Examples'' are there, on planets,

having

> navamshas on the seventh BHAVA(Varahamihira).This clearly proves

that

> one of the significances of navamsha is spouse and it is studied in

> combination with the relevant bhava,viz 7th.This is not my view,but

> those of Sages.

>

> Similarly true Bhava is Aatma/Mana Samyojana.While reading a Gita

> interpretation, on Saguna Aaradhana,a Swami says - ''when we are

> worshiping HIM in any Bhava(Vigraha) .....'' - Please see Vigraha in

> bracket for Bhava.While thinking more about this,the common usage

> ''Moorthimath Bhava'' struck me.It means culmination of any Bhava is

> Moorthi or Vigraha.Thus i feel Father ,Mother ,Guru etc are

Moorthis of

> our own Bhava when percieved through incomplete

understanding.Similarly

> Adhi-Bhootham,Adhi-Daivam etc are the Moorthis or culmination of

that

> desire,which had arisen from the INITIAL Singular state(non

state).The

> divine path(Kula margam?) is returning to that initial(Nirguna).For

the

> perception of any thought, SPACE is needed.The distance from ''NO

> THOUGHT'' to the relams of THOUGHT is ''TIME'',is my humble opinion.

>

> Upasana -is a divine Bhava.It is sitting near.Near to whom?Through

Guru

> we are trying to sit next to HIM -again reduction of

DISTANCE.Through

> Upasan''amsha'' we are studying the abilities of various planets for

> UPASANA.Please read divisional dignities(paraijata,simhasana) of 9th

> lord by Parashara and share your valuable thoughts.Upasanamsha can

then

> be clearly understood.This will make clear how Bhavas and Amshas

are to

> be combined.Logic is not about explaining the already

> evident/seen,rather understanding of the unseen, with the help of

> seen.Counting Bhavas everywhere,is the easiest conclusion.Whether

> Jyotish demands more Time/Tapas and Upasana have to be carefully

> considered, by learned souls.Why we cannot find even a single

reference

> reagarding such,amongst thousands and thousands of shlokas,are also

to

> be looked upon, by all sincere seekers of knowledge.

>

> I may be inadvertently hurting the feelings of some,but such is

never

> the intention,and kindly forgive.It is just a humble attempt towards

> TRUTH.If i am wrong,more learned can lead me towards light.

>

> Regarding Brahmacharis and their success ''without'' woman -I feel

they

> are great souls who have understood the 'Woman' within as compared

to

> common souls like me looking for one outside:-).

>

> Thanks

> Pradeep

>

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Dear Sreenadh ji

 

You are right.

If it is Bhava that you had in mind,yes it can have different

meanings.For example it can the abbreviation for Bhavanam(House).But

Bhavanam also got a meaning similar to Bhavam(Devi Bhavam,Roudra Bhavam

etc).

Now in Jyotish one interpretation can be - ''House'' as it is the House

for a Planets.Similarly from another angle''Onnam Bhavam(1st

Bhava),Ezham Bhavam(7th bhava) etc'' are the desires of lagna,expressed

as 12 -(12 Bhavams).For me it is similar to Sun and other

planets.Planetary positions are based on our past desires and acts,is my

feeling.I feel different meanings of Bhava can be applied to Jyotish as

well.One latent or subtle meaning - as i have said Aatma/Mana Samyojana

-Another manifest or gross meaning -House.I have a feeling that the

whole Universe arose out of desires and a corresponding Bhava from a

Singular Point.Also regarding 12 Bhavas,there is an opinion that sun and

moon conjuncting 12 times in a circle of 360 degrees,forms the reason.

 

Kindly correct me.

 

Pradeep

 

, " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Pradeep ji,

> Context is always important in interpretting the meaning of words. :)

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " vijayadas_pradeep "

> vijayadas_pradeep@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > Sarvashree Sreenadh,Arjun and repsected members

> >

> > please find the reply sent to Ranjan ji

> >

> > Sorry about the delayed reply.As you have rightly mentioned, there

> can

> > be many interpretations from the Navamshas of planets.But ofcourse

> we

> > are yet to fully understand them.Dharma Patni can also be a valid

> point

> > as number 9,is pertaining to Dharma.Through Shradha

> (attention),resulting

> > in dharma,one can attain success.Thus among various vargas attained

> by a

> > planet,navamsha is very very important, as,it shows the vital

> condition

> > of, Prana and its influence.If a planet is weak in navamsha,one has

> to

> > struggle hard for the said Shradha.

> >

> > As 5th pertains to any kind of creation or followers - to have a

> child

> > through own Bija - 7 th house is necessary,for Anda

> samyojana.Similarly

> > for spouse matters ''Classical Examples'' are there, on planets,

> having

> > navamshas on the seventh BHAVA(Varahamihira).This clearly proves

> that

> > one of the significances of navamsha is spouse and it is studied in

> > combination with the relevant bhava,viz 7th.This is not my view,but

> > those of Sages.

> >

> > Similarly true Bhava is Aatma/Mana Samyojana.While reading a Gita

> > interpretation, on Saguna Aaradhana,a Swami says - ''when we are

> > worshiping HIM in any Bhava(Vigraha) .....'' - Please see Vigraha in

> > bracket for Bhava.While thinking more about this,the common usage

> > ''Moorthimath Bhava'' struck me.It means culmination of any Bhava is

> > Moorthi or Vigraha.Thus i feel Father ,Mother ,Guru etc are

> Moorthis of

> > our own Bhava when percieved through incomplete

> understanding.Similarly

> > Adhi-Bhootham,Adhi-Daivam etc are the Moorthis or culmination of

> that

> > desire,which had arisen from the INITIAL Singular state(non

> state).The

> > divine path(Kula margam?) is returning to that initial(Nirguna).For

> the

> > perception of any thought, SPACE is needed.The distance from ''NO

> > THOUGHT'' to the relams of THOUGHT is ''TIME'',is my humble opinion.

> >

> > Upasana -is a divine Bhava.It is sitting near.Near to whom?Through

> Guru

> > we are trying to sit next to HIM -again reduction of

> DISTANCE.Through

> > Upasan''amsha'' we are studying the abilities of various planets for

> > UPASANA.Please read divisional dignities(paraijata,simhasana) of 9th

> > lord by Parashara and share your valuable thoughts.Upasanamsha can

> then

> > be clearly understood.This will make clear how Bhavas and Amshas

> are to

> > be combined.Logic is not about explaining the already

> > evident/seen,rather understanding of the unseen, with the help of

> > seen.Counting Bhavas everywhere,is the easiest conclusion.Whether

> > Jyotish demands more Time/Tapas and Upasana have to be carefully

> > considered, by learned souls.Why we cannot find even a single

> reference

> > reagarding such,amongst thousands and thousands of shlokas,are also

> to

> > be looked upon, by all sincere seekers of knowledge.

> >

> > I may be inadvertently hurting the feelings of some,but such is

> never

> > the intention,and kindly forgive.It is just a humble attempt towards

> > TRUTH.If i am wrong,more learned can lead me towards light.

> >

> > Regarding Brahmacharis and their success ''without'' woman -I feel

> they

> > are great souls who have understood the 'Woman' within as compared

> to

> > common souls like me looking for one outside:-).

> >

> > Thanks

> > Pradeep

> >

>

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Dear Vijayadas ji,

We are just frinds who share thoughts and not guru-sishya. :)

I love your thoughts - for there own merits. Every thought is

beutiful, when they are the results of a free flowing mind.:) But the

order and systemattic classifications are also necessory when it

comes to organizing a subject. :)

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, " vijayadas_pradeep "

<vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

>

> Dear Sreenadh ji

>

> You are right.

> If it is Bhava that you had in mind,yes it can have different

> meanings.For example it can the abbreviation for Bhavanam(House).But

> Bhavanam also got a meaning similar to Bhavam(Devi Bhavam,Roudra

Bhavam

> etc).

> Now in Jyotish one interpretation can be - ''House'' as it is the

House

> for a Planets.Similarly from another angle''Onnam Bhavam(1st

> Bhava),Ezham Bhavam(7th bhava) etc'' are the desires of

lagna,expressed

> as 12 -(12 Bhavams).For me it is similar to Sun and other

> planets.Planetary positions are based on our past desires and

acts,is my

> feeling.I feel different meanings of Bhava can be applied to

Jyotish as

> well.One latent or subtle meaning - as i have said Aatma/Mana

Samyojana

> -Another manifest or gross meaning -House.I have a feeling that the

> whole Universe arose out of desires and a corresponding Bhava from a

> Singular Point.Also regarding 12 Bhavas,there is an opinion that

sun and

> moon conjuncting 12 times in a circle of 360 degrees,forms the

reason.

>

> Kindly correct me.

>

> Pradeep

>

> , " Sreenadh "

> <sreesog@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Pradeep ji,

> > Context is always important in interpretting the meaning of

words. :)

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> > --- In

, " vijayadas_pradeep "

> > vijayadas_pradeep@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Sarvashree Sreenadh,Arjun and repsected members

> > >

> > > please find the reply sent to Ranjan ji

> > >

> > > Sorry about the delayed reply.As you have rightly mentioned,

there

> > can

> > > be many interpretations from the Navamshas of planets.But

ofcourse

> > we

> > > are yet to fully understand them.Dharma Patni can also be a

valid

> > point

> > > as number 9,is pertaining to Dharma.Through Shradha

> > (attention),resulting

> > > in dharma,one can attain success.Thus among various vargas

attained

> > by a

> > > planet,navamsha is very very important, as,it shows the vital

> > condition

> > > of, Prana and its influence.If a planet is weak in navamsha,one

has

> > to

> > > struggle hard for the said Shradha.

> > >

> > > As 5th pertains to any kind of creation or followers - to have a

> > child

> > > through own Bija - 7 th house is necessary,for Anda

> > samyojana.Similarly

> > > for spouse matters ''Classical Examples'' are there, on planets,

> > having

> > > navamshas on the seventh BHAVA(Varahamihira).This clearly proves

> > that

> > > one of the significances of navamsha is spouse and it is

studied in

> > > combination with the relevant bhava,viz 7th.This is not my

view,but

> > > those of Sages.

> > >

> > > Similarly true Bhava is Aatma/Mana Samyojana.While reading a

Gita

> > > interpretation, on Saguna Aaradhana,a Swami says - ''when we are

> > > worshiping HIM in any Bhava(Vigraha) .....'' - Please see

Vigraha in

> > > bracket for Bhava.While thinking more about this,the common

usage

> > > ''Moorthimath Bhava'' struck me.It means culmination of any

Bhava is

> > > Moorthi or Vigraha.Thus i feel Father ,Mother ,Guru etc are

> > Moorthis of

> > > our own Bhava when percieved through incomplete

> > understanding.Similarly

> > > Adhi-Bhootham,Adhi-Daivam etc are the Moorthis or culmination of

> > that

> > > desire,which had arisen from the INITIAL Singular state(non

> > state).The

> > > divine path(Kula margam?) is returning to that initial

(Nirguna).For

> > the

> > > perception of any thought, SPACE is needed.The distance

from ''NO

> > > THOUGHT'' to the relams of THOUGHT is ''TIME'',is my humble

opinion.

> > >

> > > Upasana -is a divine Bhava.It is sitting near.Near to whom?

Through

> > Guru

> > > we are trying to sit next to HIM -again reduction of

> > DISTANCE.Through

> > > Upasan''amsha'' we are studying the abilities of various

planets for

> > > UPASANA.Please read divisional dignities(paraijata,simhasana)

of 9th

> > > lord by Parashara and share your valuable thoughts.Upasanamsha

can

> > then

> > > be clearly understood.This will make clear how Bhavas and Amshas

> > are to

> > > be combined.Logic is not about explaining the already

> > > evident/seen,rather understanding of the unseen, with the help

of

> > > seen.Counting Bhavas everywhere,is the easiest

conclusion.Whether

> > > Jyotish demands more Time/Tapas and Upasana have to be carefully

> > > considered, by learned souls.Why we cannot find even a single

> > reference

> > > reagarding such,amongst thousands and thousands of shlokas,are

also

> > to

> > > be looked upon, by all sincere seekers of knowledge.

> > >

> > > I may be inadvertently hurting the feelings of some,but such is

> > never

> > > the intention,and kindly forgive.It is just a humble attempt

towards

> > > TRUTH.If i am wrong,more learned can lead me towards light.

> > >

> > > Regarding Brahmacharis and their success ''without'' woman -I

feel

> > they

> > > are great souls who have understood the 'Woman' within as

compared

> > to

> > > common souls like me looking for one outside:-).

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Pradeep

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Vijayadas ji,

Now onwards I will address you like this, since one more Pradeep ji

is there. ;)

Your name is beautiful (it is a branching thought) - Vijayadas

Pradeep.

Vijayadas - The person who is dasa to victory (like Kalidas)

Padeep - The one which gives light (Astological knowlede I hope).

Should I say 'Prakarshena deepyate iti pradeep'. The one which happly

gives away light of knowledge. :)

It is said that astrology is also like a 'deepa' - The knowledge

branch, that sheds lights on past-present-future lika a deepa(lamp)

which helps us to go forward through the dark future ahead. :)

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Vijayadas ji,

> We are just frinds who share thoughts and not guru-sishya. :)

> I love your thoughts - for there own merits. Every thought is

> beutiful, when they are the results of a free flowing mind.:) But

the

> order and systemattic classifications are also necessory when it

> comes to organizing a subject. :)

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> --- In

, " vijayadas_pradeep "

> <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Sreenadh ji

> >

> > You are right.

> > If it is Bhava that you had in mind,yes it can have different

> > meanings.For example it can the abbreviation for Bhavanam

(House).But

> > Bhavanam also got a meaning similar to Bhavam(Devi Bhavam,Roudra

> Bhavam

> > etc).

> > Now in Jyotish one interpretation can be - ''House'' as it is the

> House

> > for a Planets.Similarly from another angle''Onnam Bhavam(1st

> > Bhava),Ezham Bhavam(7th bhava) etc'' are the desires of

> lagna,expressed

> > as 12 -(12 Bhavams).For me it is similar to Sun and other

> > planets.Planetary positions are based on our past desires and

> acts,is my

> > feeling.I feel different meanings of Bhava can be applied to

> Jyotish as

> > well.One latent or subtle meaning - as i have said Aatma/Mana

> Samyojana

> > -Another manifest or gross meaning -House.I have a feeling that

the

> > whole Universe arose out of desires and a corresponding Bhava

from a

> > Singular Point.Also regarding 12 Bhavas,there is an opinion that

> sun and

> > moon conjuncting 12 times in a circle of 360 degrees,forms the

> reason.

> >

> > Kindly correct me.

> >

> > Pradeep

> >

> > , " Sreenadh "

> > <sreesog@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Pradeep ji,

> > > Context is always important in interpretting the meaning of

> words. :)

> > > Love,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> > > --- In

> , " vijayadas_pradeep "

> > > vijayadas_pradeep@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Sarvashree Sreenadh,Arjun and repsected members

> > > >

> > > > please find the reply sent to Ranjan ji

> > > >

> > > > Sorry about the delayed reply.As you have rightly mentioned,

> there

> > > can

> > > > be many interpretations from the Navamshas of planets.But

> ofcourse

> > > we

> > > > are yet to fully understand them.Dharma Patni can also be a

> valid

> > > point

> > > > as number 9,is pertaining to Dharma.Through Shradha

> > > (attention),resulting

> > > > in dharma,one can attain success.Thus among various vargas

> attained

> > > by a

> > > > planet,navamsha is very very important, as,it shows the vital

> > > condition

> > > > of, Prana and its influence.If a planet is weak in

navamsha,one

> has

> > > to

> > > > struggle hard for the said Shradha.

> > > >

> > > > As 5th pertains to any kind of creation or followers - to

have a

> > > child

> > > > through own Bija - 7 th house is necessary,for Anda

> > > samyojana.Similarly

> > > > for spouse matters ''Classical Examples'' are there, on

planets,

> > > having

> > > > navamshas on the seventh BHAVA(Varahamihira).This clearly

proves

> > > that

> > > > one of the significances of navamsha is spouse and it is

> studied in

> > > > combination with the relevant bhava,viz 7th.This is not my

> view,but

> > > > those of Sages.

> > > >

> > > > Similarly true Bhava is Aatma/Mana Samyojana.While reading a

> Gita

> > > > interpretation, on Saguna Aaradhana,a Swami says - ''when we

are

> > > > worshiping HIM in any Bhava(Vigraha) .....'' - Please see

> Vigraha in

> > > > bracket for Bhava.While thinking more about this,the common

> usage

> > > > ''Moorthimath Bhava'' struck me.It means culmination of any

> Bhava is

> > > > Moorthi or Vigraha.Thus i feel Father ,Mother ,Guru etc are

> > > Moorthis of

> > > > our own Bhava when percieved through incomplete

> > > understanding.Similarly

> > > > Adhi-Bhootham,Adhi-Daivam etc are the Moorthis or culmination

of

> > > that

> > > > desire,which had arisen from the INITIAL Singular state(non

> > > state).The

> > > > divine path(Kula margam?) is returning to that initial

> (Nirguna).For

> > > the

> > > > perception of any thought, SPACE is needed.The distance

> from ''NO

> > > > THOUGHT'' to the relams of THOUGHT is ''TIME'',is my humble

> opinion.

> > > >

> > > > Upasana -is a divine Bhava.It is sitting near.Near to whom?

> Through

> > > Guru

> > > > we are trying to sit next to HIM -again reduction of

> > > DISTANCE.Through

> > > > Upasan''amsha'' we are studying the abilities of various

> planets for

> > > > UPASANA.Please read divisional dignities(paraijata,simhasana)

> of 9th

> > > > lord by Parashara and share your valuable

thoughts.Upasanamsha

> can

> > > then

> > > > be clearly understood.This will make clear how Bhavas and

Amshas

> > > are to

> > > > be combined.Logic is not about explaining the already

> > > > evident/seen,rather understanding of the unseen, with the

help

> of

> > > > seen.Counting Bhavas everywhere,is the easiest

> conclusion.Whether

> > > > Jyotish demands more Time/Tapas and Upasana have to be

carefully

> > > > considered, by learned souls.Why we cannot find even a single

> > > reference

> > > > reagarding such,amongst thousands and thousands of

shlokas,are

> also

> > > to

> > > > be looked upon, by all sincere seekers of knowledge.

> > > >

> > > > I may be inadvertently hurting the feelings of some,but such

is

> > > never

> > > > the intention,and kindly forgive.It is just a humble attempt

> towards

> > > > TRUTH.If i am wrong,more learned can lead me towards light.

> > > >

> > > > Regarding Brahmacharis and their success ''without'' woman -I

> feel

> > > they

> > > > are great souls who have understood the 'Woman' within as

> compared

> > > to

> > > > common souls like me looking for one outside:-).

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Pradeep

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Sreenadh ji

 

Thanks for your kind words and explanation of name:-)

With guidance from learned members like you and many others,myself is

contributing humble share.Like the squirrel helping Rama in bulding

sethubandhana.(Annaara kannanum Thannaalaayathu)

 

Kind regds

Pradeep

, " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Vijayadas ji,

> Now onwards I will address you like this, since one more Pradeep ji

> is there. ;)

> Your name is beautiful (it is a branching thought) - Vijayadas

> Pradeep.

> Vijayadas - The person who is dasa to victory (like Kalidas)

> Padeep - The one which gives light (Astological knowlede I hope).

> Should I say 'Prakarshena deepyate iti pradeep'. The one which happly

> gives away light of knowledge. :)

> It is said that astrology is also like a 'deepa' - The knowledge

> branch, that sheds lights on past-present-future lika a deepa(lamp)

> which helps us to go forward through the dark future ahead. :)

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " Sreenadh "

> sreesog@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vijayadas ji,

> > We are just frinds who share thoughts and not guru-sishya. :)

> > I love your thoughts - for there own merits. Every thought is

> > beutiful, when they are the results of a free flowing mind.:) But

> the

> > order and systemattic classifications are also necessory when it

> > comes to organizing a subject. :)

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> > --- In

> , " vijayadas_pradeep "

> > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Sreenadh ji

> > >

> > > You are right.

> > > If it is Bhava that you had in mind,yes it can have different

> > > meanings.For example it can the abbreviation for Bhavanam

> (House).But

> > > Bhavanam also got a meaning similar to Bhavam(Devi Bhavam,Roudra

> > Bhavam

> > > etc).

> > > Now in Jyotish one interpretation can be - ''House'' as it is the

> > House

> > > for a Planets.Similarly from another angle''Onnam Bhavam(1st

> > > Bhava),Ezham Bhavam(7th bhava) etc'' are the desires of

> > lagna,expressed

> > > as 12 -(12 Bhavams).For me it is similar to Sun and other

> > > planets.Planetary positions are based on our past desires and

> > acts,is my

> > > feeling.I feel different meanings of Bhava can be applied to

> > Jyotish as

> > > well.One latent or subtle meaning - as i have said Aatma/Mana

> > Samyojana

> > > -Another manifest or gross meaning -House.I have a feeling that

> the

> > > whole Universe arose out of desires and a corresponding Bhava

> from a

> > > Singular Point.Also regarding 12 Bhavas,there is an opinion that

> > sun and

> > > moon conjuncting 12 times in a circle of 360 degrees,forms the

> > reason.

> > >

> > > Kindly correct me.

> > >

> > > Pradeep

> > >

> > > , " Sreenadh "

> > > <sreesog@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Pradeep ji,

> > > > Context is always important in interpretting the meaning of

> > words. :)

> > > > Love,

> > > > Sreenadh

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> > , " vijayadas_pradeep "

> > > > vijayadas_pradeep@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sarvashree Sreenadh,Arjun and repsected members

> > > > >

> > > > > please find the reply sent to Ranjan ji

> > > > >

> > > > > Sorry about the delayed reply.As you have rightly mentioned,

> > there

> > > > can

> > > > > be many interpretations from the Navamshas of planets.But

> > ofcourse

> > > > we

> > > > > are yet to fully understand them.Dharma Patni can also be a

> > valid

> > > > point

> > > > > as number 9,is pertaining to Dharma.Through Shradha

> > > > (attention),resulting

> > > > > in dharma,one can attain success.Thus among various vargas

> > attained

> > > > by a

> > > > > planet,navamsha is very very important, as,it shows the vital

> > > > condition

> > > > > of, Prana and its influence.If a planet is weak in

> navamsha,one

> > has

> > > > to

> > > > > struggle hard for the said Shradha.

> > > > >

> > > > > As 5th pertains to any kind of creation or followers - to

> have a

> > > > child

> > > > > through own Bija - 7 th house is necessary,for Anda

> > > > samyojana.Similarly

> > > > > for spouse matters ''Classical Examples'' are there, on

> planets,

> > > > having

> > > > > navamshas on the seventh BHAVA(Varahamihira).This clearly

> proves

> > > > that

> > > > > one of the significances of navamsha is spouse and it is

> > studied in

> > > > > combination with the relevant bhava,viz 7th.This is not my

> > view,but

> > > > > those of Sages.

> > > > >

> > > > > Similarly true Bhava is Aatma/Mana Samyojana.While reading a

> > Gita

> > > > > interpretation, on Saguna Aaradhana,a Swami says - ''when we

> are

> > > > > worshiping HIM in any Bhava(Vigraha) .....'' - Please see

> > Vigraha in

> > > > > bracket for Bhava.While thinking more about this,the common

> > usage

> > > > > ''Moorthimath Bhava'' struck me.It means culmination of any

> > Bhava is

> > > > > Moorthi or Vigraha.Thus i feel Father ,Mother ,Guru etc are

> > > > Moorthis of

> > > > > our own Bhava when percieved through incomplete

> > > > understanding.Similarly

> > > > > Adhi-Bhootham,Adhi-Daivam etc are the Moorthis or culmination

> of

> > > > that

> > > > > desire,which had arisen from the INITIAL Singular state(non

> > > > state).The

> > > > > divine path(Kula margam?) is returning to that initial

> > (Nirguna).For

> > > > the

> > > > > perception of any thought, SPACE is needed.The distance

> > from ''NO

> > > > > THOUGHT'' to the relams of THOUGHT is ''TIME'',is my humble

> > opinion.

> > > > >

> > > > > Upasana -is a divine Bhava.It is sitting near.Near to whom?

> > Through

> > > > Guru

> > > > > we are trying to sit next to HIM -again reduction of

> > > > DISTANCE.Through

> > > > > Upasan''amsha'' we are studying the abilities of various

> > planets for

> > > > > UPASANA.Please read divisional dignities(paraijata,simhasana)

> > of 9th

> > > > > lord by Parashara and share your valuable

> thoughts.Upasanamsha

> > can

> > > > then

> > > > > be clearly understood.This will make clear how Bhavas and

> Amshas

> > > > are to

> > > > > be combined.Logic is not about explaining the already

> > > > > evident/seen,rather understanding of the unseen, with the

> help

> > of

> > > > > seen.Counting Bhavas everywhere,is the easiest

> > conclusion.Whether

> > > > > Jyotish demands more Time/Tapas and Upasana have to be

> carefully

> > > > > considered, by learned souls.Why we cannot find even a single

> > > > reference

> > > > > reagarding such,amongst thousands and thousands of

> shlokas,are

> > also

> > > > to

> > > > > be looked upon, by all sincere seekers of knowledge.

> > > > >

> > > > > I may be inadvertently hurting the feelings of some,but such

> is

> > > > never

> > > > > the intention,and kindly forgive.It is just a humble attempt

> > towards

> > > > > TRUTH.If i am wrong,more learned can lead me towards light.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regarding Brahmacharis and their success ''without'' woman -I

> > feel

> > > > they

> > > > > are great souls who have understood the 'Woman' within as

> > compared

> > > > to

> > > > > common souls like me looking for one outside:-).

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Pradeep

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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